It Is A California Gold Rush All Over Again
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 1, 2011 8:16 PM PDT
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Clayton Kershaw, Matt Kemp, and Andre Ethier all won Gold Gloves tonight surprising just about all Dodger fans.
Club history: There have only been four Dodgers pitchers to win a Gold Glove. Andy Messersmith won a pair in 1974-1975 and was so good he decided to see what he was worth on the open market. Fernando Valenzuela won 21 games in 1986, and added a Gold Glove to his mantel. Greg Maddux was acquired twice by the Dodgers in post All-Star break deals, in 2006 and 2008, and he won in both seasons, part of an amazing run of 18 in 19 years for the all-time leader in Gold Gloves.
Kershaw will try to match Orel Hershiser, who in 1988 won both the Gold Glove and Cy Young Award. The only other pitchers to take home both honors in the same season are Maddux (1992-1995), Bret Saberhagen (1989), Jim Palmer (1976), and Bob Gibson (1968, 1970).
This Gold Glove will just be the beginning of the hardware that Clayton will be collecting.
Matt Kemp won his second gold glove, this time specific to center field.
Club history: Dodgers center fielders to win Gold Gloves are Willie Davis (1971-1973), Steve Finley (2004), and Kemp (2009).
Andre who made zero errors all year translated that into the Dodgers 3rd gold glove of the evening.
Club history: The only Dodgers right fielder to win a Gold Glove was Raul Mondesi, who picked up the honors in 1995 and 1997.
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NL RF UZR for those with 900 or more innings (100 full games)
for what little it is worth
Name Team Pos Inn UZR UZR/150
Jay Bruce CIN RF 1371.0 -0.8 -0.7
Justin Upton ARI RF 1366.2 7.7 6.8
Hunter Pence - – - RF 1342.2 -4.8 -5.3
Mike Stanton FLA RF 1219.0 2.7 3.1
Jayson Werth WSN RF 1172.2 1.0 0.2
Carlos Beltran - – - RF 1153.2 -7.3 -9.2
Andre Ethier LAD RF 1091.1 5.3 6.8
Corey Hart MIL RF 1087.2 1.9 0.7
Jason Heyward ATL RF 990.1 8.6 12.7
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Ignored entirely. UZR is so full of holes it’s not even worth mentioning and discredits the WAR stat entirely.
It is at least one semi-objective measure of what actually happened this year. Where the skews are is a source of endless debate of course. How does Justin Upton get charged with 13 errors and still have a 7.7 UZR? Who knows.
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Fielded a ball cleanly then threw the ball into space which is just as bad as being Juan Pierre and lobbing it in.
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Dee is excited
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3 @Dodgers win NL Gold Gloves!!!! #Dre @TheRealMattKemp #Kershaw !!! #BESTTEAMMATESEVER!!!!
also:
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’@TheRealMattKemp just won his 2nd #GoldGlove because of great catches like this: pic.twitter.com/4sjiTPCA
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
#inthemajorleagues
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
award giver GG
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if this was posted in the other thread but I saw this on rotoworld:
According to Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times, the Dodgers are closing in on a new contract with Juan Rivera.
Supposed 1 yr deal with club option. Sounds good to me.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 1, 2011 8:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Gurnick reporting $4M guaranteed. Still sounds good to you?
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I guess it is all relative to our payroll. I think I was off by at least 1.5.
And you all don’t think Loney can’t do better then 6 in the open market?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Will Ned be bidding on him?
People who out OPSed Juan Rivera this year: Jamey Carroll, Yorvit Torrealba, Elvis Andrus
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When we rosterbate are we allowed to toss Rivera off the team?
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he probably made an error
you know who didn’t? Andre Ethier
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
!
love her
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
that
is Olivia Wilde
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea who this is. Cal grad perhaps?
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I saw Cowboys And Aliens. She wore a shit-ton of makeup in that movie, the likes of which late 19th century women had never seen before.
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but she was passing as a human. She just looked out of place in every scene she was in.
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except she was an Alien so she needed the makeup
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
spoiler
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I only watch that if I happen across a cable re-run.
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Justin Upton
How the hell do you commit 13 errors, in the outfield?
First of all, nobody's ever thought that. Ever.
not catch the ball
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can’t wait to count the Gold Gloves every time I point out our outfield defense blows.
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see
IT’S WIN-FREAKIN-WIN BABY!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
So how did this work exactly, coaches made nominees, fans voted?
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They get to vote for the one Platinum Glove winner. Or one per league. Dunno which.
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Next time anyone complains about fans voting on the All Star Game I’m pointing at this.
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no
coaches and managers vote
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The Gold Glove Awards are voted on by the managers and coaches in each league, with the caveat that the voters cannot vote for players on their own team.
Presumably the “finalists” were the top three finishers.
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If signing Juan Rivera means either Andre or Loney never see a left hander that would at least make me only slightly hate this deal instead of totally hate it.
Who knows maybe this will be the first time we got a waiver wire pickup who kicked ass in Aug/Sept and then did not suck the following year.
On the other hand, this is Jose Cruz Junior all over again.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Let’s be fair, Cruz, Belliard and Marlon put up really good numbers. Rivera did no such thing.
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Possibly both Loney and Dre not seeing lefties? Sands/Rivera could platoon at 1B/RF against lefties. I guess that would leave Gwynn in LF, oh well…
i doubt they want Sands playing only against LHP. Sounds like he’s gonna start the year in ABQ
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Still need a defensive caddy – 2/3 of a Gold Glove OF notwithstanding.
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isn't TGJ
still under team control?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
they could
i’m just saying they don’t have too
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
What for, he isn’t getting a seven-digit salary from anyone.
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So the names weren't leaked.
Via Giants beat writer Hank Schulman on the Twitter:
Per custom, AP got winners early so it could post story as soon as show was over. I love they sent it at 8 pm exactly, original embargo time
I don't think anyone claimed they were
once the broadcast got pushed back because of football, this was inevitable
It’s great for following people who are going to break news.
It’s an econo-lite version of facebook.
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that's why I shouldn't be on there
it could be used to declare me insane.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
what about
Dre and Kemp?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
good man
(calls off sniper)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sometimes seeing hash tags for the TV show that is on when they come back from commercial.
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are you Bender?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
ever seen Futurama?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup, love that show. Reminds me, there is a Futurama-themed Geeks Who Drink (pub quiz) next week. I need to watch the entire series this week.
cool
never know who’s seen it and who hasn’t
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
did you get your chip? :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m sure their brainchip computer will inform them of the rampant use of hashtags in the early years of the Twitter Era, before the World Goverment passed heavy legislation, regulating their use.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They do it on all Fox and USA shows at least.
On WWE Raw, they have the hashtag after every commercial, plus the wrestlers’ twitter handles during their intros.
Facebook is proven to be the more effective marketing tool, yet “like us on facebook” is much less common
Which one is used more from a “smartphone”?
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I’m gonna rebel and call it what it really is, a pocket computer.
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I’m the operator
of my pocket calculator.
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Do you refer to yourself more often as a college grad or a Cal grad?
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computer > calculator or phone just like Cal > college.
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I saw a tweet about some soccer team that has, instead of names across the shoulders on the back of the jerseys, twitter handles.
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BTW
your twitter tag link is broken. As broken as Cal’s football team.
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Bam.
Mexican first division soccer team Jaguares de Chiapas has a reputation for being a forward-thinking, innovative club. That makes sense, since the club has only been in existence since 2002.
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Its latest bold move takes the social media craze right onto the playing field. Jaguares unveiled new jerseys on Friday that replace the names on the backs with a player’s Twitter handle.
Dodger collect the golden leather
But none of them had a gold glove bonus in their contract.
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yet
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone notice?
on the gold glove finalists announcement, all the winners were put first on the list for each position. I thought it was weird how it wasn’t alphabetized.
HAHAHAHA
and in a smaller font too.
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haha
I didn’t notice the smaller font. I noticed the names in a weird order when I first saw the link though
I know we’re all making fun of Ethier’s GG win, but he did finish 3rd amongst right fielders this year. Kemp was the 11th best CF.
in UZR. Small sample size and whatnot, but its not as if Ethier just had another horrible year defensively.
Depends on how many innings you use as a cutoff
but using my 900 innings, Kemp was 6th out of 10 NL CFs. Again, for what little it’s worth.
Name Team Pos Inn UZR UZR/150
Matt Kemp LAD CF 1380.0 -4.6 -4.7
Chris Young ARI CF 1373.1 14.1 12.9
Michael Bourn - – - CF 1359.0 -6.4 -6.2
Andrew McCutchenPIT CF 1353.2 3.5 3.3
Drew Stubbs CIN CF 1329.0 -2.5 -2.2
Cameron Maybin SDP CF 1173.0 9.5 11.6
Shane Victorino PHI CF 1150.2 4.4 5.7
Dexter Fowler COL CF 1072.2 -5.8 -6.8
Angel Pagan NYM CF 1045.0 -14.3 -16.1
Marlon Byrd CHC CF 998.0 2.2 3.0
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Do you have a list for assists?
That’s been very little talked about.
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10:05pm: A spokesman for McCourt told Shaikin that the Dodgers owner hasn’t interacted with Cuban. “He doesn’t know Mark Cuban. He hasn’t spoken with Mark Cuban. He hasn’t had anyone speak with Mark Cuban on his behalf” (Twitter link).
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also, Heyman with this
Hearing mccourt will get at least a bil if he gets deal with mlb to sell dodgers. Suitors already lining up.
Boras is gonna buy the Dodgers?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m guessing MLB will agree to pay the difference?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
BURN HIM!!!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
boom
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations to the three Dodger Gold Glove winners!
(Even if the coaches and managers don’t use UZR and WAR to judge the winners – thank god)
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Do your eyes say “Andre Ethier, Gold Glover”?
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Why not? Am I supposed to be unhappy that other teams think he’s worthy of the award? I thyink he’s a pretty good fielder, and has a good arm. Not many Clementes out there right now, are there?
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
The method of letting guys who see him play six times a year choose works.
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by regfairfield on Nov 1, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Just heard a BBC call of David Freese's walk off in Game 6
it was very good
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where? I’ve always wanted to hear baseball in a British accent.
by dodgerpreacher on Nov 1, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
it was on Intentional Talk on MLBN
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_9FhgXdpM
was this it?
by dodgerpreacher on Nov 1, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
that was it. nice find
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I love
the subtle differences. A twelfth inning instead of the twelfth inning. Car-din-als. Is it long enough instead of is it deep enough. But it’s slightly mislabeled, that call was on BBC Radio 3 extra.
Love seeing 3 dodgers winning gold glove
now andre is officially a gold glover… this is going to be interesting.
I thought loney would win one, guessing his lack of power hurt him
Why? Andre’s didn’t hurt him. ;-)
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we need more celebrating on this blog yo!… ah their probably all asleep.
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that’s too bad
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 1, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
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