Matt Kemp Wins SB Nation National League MVP
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 10:01 AM PST
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We have reached the end of the SB Nation awards season, though admittedly I am less enthused about the entire process than I was at the beginning of the week. Yes, it's cool that Matt Kemp won the SB Nation National League MVP, joining Clayton Kershaw to give the Dodgers the two major NL awards. But the participation level was poor.
Each SB Nation team site was permitted two votes for awards in their league, and the five non-affiliated sites (Baseball Nation, Minor League Ball, Beyond the Box Score, Fake Teams, and Roto Hardball) had one vote in each league. But upon further examination of the ballots, four of the 16 NL sites didn't even bother to vote (McCovey Chronicles, Bucs Dugout, Viva El Birdos, and Fish Stripes), and the folks at Gaslamp Ball only submitted a single ballot, and used the ballot to make some sort of a statement.
[Update - Grant Brisbee wrote in our comments section, "I never saw the email. Google Groups snafu. It’s the first year I didn’t vote. I enjoy it every year."]
It's not that these awards should have some great level of importance attached to them, but it would be nice if a modicum of effort was uniformly given so we could take them a little more seriously.
Here are the results of 28 National League MVP ballots:
| Rank | Name | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Matt Kemp | 21 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 353 | ||||||
| 2 | Ryan Braun | 7 | 19 | 2 | 285 | |||||||
| 3 | Joey Votto | 8 | 7 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 176 | |||||
| 4 | Justin Upton | 1 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 140 | ||
| 5 | Prince Fielder | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 119 | |
| 6 | Troy Tulowitzki | 3 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 91 | |||
| 7 | Jose Reyes | 1 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 86 | |||
| 8 | Roy Halladay | 1 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 85 | |||
| 9 | Clayton Kershaw | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 56 | |||
| 10 | Albert Pujols | 1 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 51 | |||
| 11 | Lance Berkman | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 44 | ||||
| 12 | Shane Victorino | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 41 | |||
| 13 | Cliff Lee | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 33 | ||||||
| 14 | Andrew McCutchen | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 26 | |||||
| 15 | Pablo Sandoval | 2 | 1 | 1 | 19 | |||||||
| 16 | Brandon Phillips | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 17 | ||||||
| 17 | Matt Holliday | 2 | 1 | 12 | ||||||||
| 18 | Michael Morse | 1 | 2 | 5 | ||||||||
| 19 | Carlos Beltran | 1 | 4 | |||||||||
| 19 | Mike Stanton | 1 | 2 | 4 | ||||||||
| 21 | Ryan Roberts | 2 | 2 | |||||||||
| 22 | Ian Kennedy | 1 | 1 | |||||||||
| 22 | Hunter Pence | 1 | 1 | |||||||||
| 22 | Raul Ibanez | 1 | 1 |
Fourteen points were awarded for a first place vote, then nine points for second, eight for third, all the way down to one point for a 10th place vote.
Kershaw finished ninth in the voting. I was one of two voters to give Kershaw a third place vote. Here are our ballots:
- Me: Kemp, Braun, Kershaw, Halladay, Lee, Votto, Fielder, Reyes, Tulowitzki, Pujols
- Phil Gurnee: Kemp, Braun, Fielder, Upton, Berkman, Holliday, Pujols, Votto, Halladay
The real MVP award, for which there is an actual trophy given by the Baseball Writers Association of America, will be announced on Tuesday, November 22.
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Same person who voted Kershaw fifth in the Cy Young.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Who voted him third?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Patrick Reddington of Federal Baseball, our Nats’ blog (Braun 1, Fielder 2)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
That at least is less of an insult than 5th
I don’t see him as 3rd in the “real” MVP vote but you can at least make a case for it. 5th is just an idiotically vindictive vote.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The discussion
over at Gaslamp has reached an epic level.
by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t see how trashing their team elevated it in any way.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Right
That doesn’t help anything at all.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
In fact
If anyone is going over to any other team site just to bash the other team, I would recommend not doing that, and also not posting here.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I will say
it was interesting that Gaslamp finally admitted this all has something to do with Tony Gwynn
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
arguments on the internet about an award thats mostly meaningless
are not epic. Period.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
5th place?
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Once again, overall, the voting looks right. Kemp by a hair over Braun, and then pick ’em.
I like how Fielder and Upton ended up. 24 total votes for Upton, 23 for Fielder, but zero consensus on where they should end up. Well, sort of… Upton has a large group who think he’s third-best. Fielder’s vote total is completely scattered.
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Kemp didn’t win by a hair over Braun. Kemp dominated the 1st place votes and Braun was able to look close because he dominated the second place votes. The point totals were similar, but it’s clear who the voters felt was the MVP
Fair enough.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
It's cool
Padres are used to seeing 5th place anyhow.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 11, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions 7 recs
Since switching services, I forgot to add that to my DVR. I will tonight.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
The Halladay-Kershaw totals are odd. Not that it matters, of course, but the two end up tied for CY and then have a pretty significant difference in MVP? That is strange to me.
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Blame Phil
he voted Halladay MVP on a team that had 3 other very god pitchers, and left Kershaw off completely.
Wow
that is some bitterness coming out there.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I’m with you on that Josie, I dont like em either. Go Oregon!
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
woah woah woah. I want Stanford to win tomorrow, I just want it to be known that if you are planning a college campus, painting all the buildings brown is not the best strategy
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
You're funny.
It’s a beautiful campus and everyone knows it. Nice try, though :)
It’s a farm, beautiful campuses look like ancient greece : )
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
You’d fit in perfectly on Gaslamp with your Cal homerism.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Stanford has a great football team. Andrew Luck is a fantastic quarterback.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Just curious did Stanford turn you down or is the Cal / Stanford rivalry something deep? Or deep down do you resent Stanford because if you had gone there you’d be writing for Variety by now since their journalism department would have taught you things that Cal neglected?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
cal people are annoying with how much they hate other schools
they aren’t the only people like that, but they are definetly obnoxious about it. Yes I know more Cal grads then just Josie
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It is interesting we have all these Cal Grads, but the only Stanford Grad I know is Jon Weisman. Though I think the dude from Utah was also one. Both humble, nice people. I feel an inferiority complex is at play but it is a small sample size.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
is the Cal / Stanford rivalry something deep
Answering for Josie, yes
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Cal/Stanford, Yale/Harvard, Hatfields and McCoys there are just some rivalries that are real deep
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
If a woman who chases younger men is a cougar, what is is a man who chases younger men
a Nittany Lion
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve brought up the fact I don’t care for the buildings on Stanford’s campus before. Gameday is filming there, so I saw them again and made a comment. And had Stanford not wait listed me, yeah I would have gone to Stanford and think those buildings are great. But they didn’t and I don’t, end of.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Stanford is very beautiful – but maybe too perfect, which has a whiff of something a bit artificial and contrived. Like something that is just too symmetrical. I don’t know the history, but I would guess that the original intent was to model it on Oxford, with a bit of Pax Romana and American Imperial DC Rotunda (I made up this style, but you know what I mean) added. The color of the stone looks like Oxford, which is the most beautiful university I know. (I haven’t seem Bologna, mind you.) But Oxford grew organically, college by college, over several hundred years. It is highly asymmetrical, with quirks, although later additions still mimic the earlier style. Stanford was built all at once (or most of it), and it shows. Just a bit too perfect. But very beautiful and impressive nonetheless.
“Stanford was built all at once (or most of it).”
That’s not a true statement.
The quad was built at the start (and rebuilt after the ‘06 quake), but everything after that has been additions over time. In fact, my big concern right now is recent overbuilding. In any event, no, it hasn’t been several hundred years, but it wasn’t any one-shot deal.
Beyond that, much of the beauty of the campus derives from the rustic setting, which one could say developed over millennia.
As a guy who was the first person in his family to go to school
and didn’t have a clue that he even wanted to (thought I wanted to be a pool man, so I could make my own hours, read, write, and surf) – yeah, I know.
and while I loved my crap college experience at CSUN, in retrospect I would have, should have, killed myself and anyone else to go to either of those schools
Truth be told, if I had to do it again, I would have tried to find some small town liberal college with a weak athletic program in some low level division and played college football and baseball for fun.
You folks both dated supermodel type schools and are arguing which one was hotter
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
it’s not even arguing though. At least for me I think I’m being playful to the annoyance of Phil
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
You would have loved University of Rochester, my alma mater.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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why yes, yes I would
and some 9,300 students—approximately half of whom are women.
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
they're seriously bumped up the population
when I was there it was closer to 4500.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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They gave me a leadership scholarship
and told me if I applied, they would waive my application fee. So I did. I wasn’t the best high school student but I beat the shit out of extracurriculars. My interview was with the dean of admissions, and he understood what being a drum major entailed, so I think that really helped me get it.
Then I proceeded to surprise myself and everyone who knew me up to that point by becoming an actually pretty decent and serious student.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Living in the SFV.
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Wow, that is pretty random! I have a few buddies that went to RIT, but they are all from Buffalo or upstate NY so not that surprising.
yeah, it was really crazy to go from LA to BFE, NY but I loved it. Really, really loved it. Even the -15 degree weather.
RIT’s funny — I guess the campus was designed to be in Arizona or something? As a result it acts like a wind tunnel, which is really bad during the winter.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I, for one, got sick and damn tired of the -15 degree weather. 18 years of that plus another 4 of not-all-that-much-better in Boston.
Now I put on a sweater when it gets below 60.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
How did they get aware of you to recruit you with the scholarship / fee waiver?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
no, I was the drum major
I played trumpet for 9 years and was active in the marching band, concert band, orchestra, and jazz band. As the drum major I was the student leader and conducted the field shows (except when they needed a trumpet soloist, in which case I played).
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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As much as I begged, I was not allowed to march baton or mace.
Cry time. :(
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aww, didn’t mean to tread over old wounds : (
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Locally I would have liked to have gone to the University of Redlands, like HJ I do regret being lazy about my academic’s throughout my life. In the end luck got me started in a career that has worked out but I do regret not having the full blooded college experience instead of the commuter experience I had.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I didn’t know what I didn’t know
I don’t know if the resulting years would have been better or worse, but those that follow me will be better informed on choices
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Only college I've set foot on
is Community College
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
High school with ash trays.
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The rivalry runs deep and all kinds of mocking goes on, but it usually operates in some level of reality. For example, we would say Stanford is a better school, because you have to believe that, but we wouldn’t say Cal is a terrible school. Or if we did, I would dismiss that just as much.
That’s why I reacted to the line about the campus. I mean, there’s a lot you can say to mock Stanford, but mocking the look of the campus just doesn’t pass any kind of reality check.
The weirdest thing, by far, is when Cal people use the word “Stanfurd.” I can’t for the life of me figure out how them misspelling a name is supposed to reflect badly on us.
I would occasionally use Stanfurd during Big Game week, but I grew out of it. I swear, I’ve seen the Stanford Band with Beat Kal signs, in fact it was written on the back of the tree in the ’09 Big Game.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
And what number does one call to get football tickets?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It was a response to both your comment and Phil’s notion of an inferiority complex, but I couldn’t split the comment in half. Well, I could have, but that would be silly.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
How was it related to my comment?
Does 1-800-BEATCAL reflect an inferiority complex on the side of Stanford or simply a desire to kick Cal’s ass.
Josie comment’s about being wait listed pretty much answered my question.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I think his point is that rivalry defines the college experience at both schools. As a result it’s also a part of the alumni experience.
No matter who USC is playing, at a certain part their fans will sing the UCLA Sucks song. It’s part of being a USC fan.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
The thing is, when Cal was having football success (and not at our expense, since we weren’t competitive), on some level I was happy for them. I do feel a kindred spirit.
Just not during Big Game™ week.
We were 0-4 in Big Games while I was there (but 2-1 in Ink Bowls while I played). I think we were even the “better” team three of those years. The success currently being felt in Palo Alto doesn’t hurt me nearly as much as it did when they were lousy and still beating us.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Arent’ you the guy umimpressed with Luck?
If so, then how can a guy you are unimpressed with be the sole catalyst for a top 10 Football team?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
It will take a year before the loss of Harbaugh shows up. Shit Raiders made the Super Bowl the year after Gruden left, then what? I do think Luck is great, however I also agree its going downhill after this year.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Downhill is a given since they are on top of the mountain, last place in the PAC is another animal when you have schools like Washington State, Utah, Arizona, and Cal.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sort of odd to use Cal (and Utah) to make your point.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Washington St and Arizona have both been good in the last decade at some point, the Pac keeps flip flopping. Washington was a doormat two years ago.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, plus I just think its too hard to find that many smart super star football players that can apply their consistently.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Like all schools, Stanford relaxes their academic standards for athletes. CAL DOES IT TOO I’M NOT BEING INSULTING. The difficulty comes (like at all institutions) with maintaining their studies as well as their athletic requirements. In the Pac, Stanford, Cal, USC and UCLA are all highly-competitive academic universities with rigorous standards. The other schools aren’t that far behind. If they can demonstrate the ability to help recruits get to the next level athletically, they will always be able to recruit.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Really? I assumed the academic standards to get into Stanford were tougher then say a USC or UCLA. But you are saying its the same?
I would assume that since Stanford is private
Unlike Cal and UCLA, they have a bit more leeway with accepting football players.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 11, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
For athletics, the NCAA has a minimum standard. For each university, they still only take students that they believe will succeed at that school. You do not need to necessarily qualify academically. The minimum standards are something like a 2.0GPA/1600SAT to 3.0 GPA/1120SAT sliding scale. At a school like Stanford, they are unlikely to take a student who just meets the minimum requirements if they feel he would not make grade eligibility anyway (UNLESS HE’S LIKE REALLY REALLY GOOD).
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Those minimum requirements are Cal-State-esque.
UC minimum requirement is a 3.0 GPA, period, if i remember correctly.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 11, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
There is no UC minimum standard, if you have “special skills” or whatever.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
You should talk to Gary
he was being scouted by teams like Stanford and UCLA but his academics still mattered.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I can speak authoritatively here.
Each UC school has its own minimum admission level calculated from GPA and SATs. Most are extremely high, with Berkeley’s (Cal) the highest.
There is something called “UC eligible” which is a lot lower than that, calculated to fulfill the UC “constitution” of admitting the top 12.5% of high school graduates. Normally only one UC has to admit those students – it used to Riverside, now it’s Merced.
But, as Nolij says, there is something called “Special Action” which can be requested for students with special achievement in sports or in music. While Admissions prefers to award that mostly to students who are at least “UC eligible”, it can be given even to those who are not. That’s what happens with students recruited for sports prowess. Even then, there are some minimum levels, but they are very minimal: the student has to have passed certain basic courses in English and Math, and that’s about it of they are wanted badly enough. But they still have to take and pass courses, choose a major, fullfill requirements, etc. There is no major called Basketball. if they are so far below the norms that there’s no chance they can get passing grades, it’s silly to admit them since they won’t last more than a year, though there’s a whole lengthy procedure of first being put on probation, etc. That’s what must happen a lot.
Last year a student at UCSB was begging to be allowed to get a retroactive Incomplete for a class that he had failed by not turning up and not taking exams. If he could get the Incomplete and then finish all the assignments and exams by auditing the same course given in a later quarter, his GPA wouldn’t dip below the minimum he needed to stay in good standing and be allowed to participate on the baseball team. If he had to take the F and then retake the class, he couldn’t train during winter quarter for the team. The instructor let him do it, and he eventually passed OK. I signed off on it.
What do you teach? I know you’ve said it before, but I forgot. :(
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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ahhh ok
that’s pretty neat. I burnt out on music after high school. :)
I’m looking at UCSB for PhD work, but that would be living the dream (that and UChicago, really). My sister is interested in doing graduate work in musicology, though, and that’s probably more in your area. :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Thanks – all this makes sense for the four year athletic students but since most high quality basketball students only plan doing a one and done, do they even have to bother going to class that one year?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hmmm. Yes, I can imagine a transfer student from a community college coming for one year, straggling through one year, then on to pro ball without graduating. I honestly don’t know at what points the various provisions of probation and and suspension come into effect, but I would think that a student who got somewhere near a 0.0 in their GPA even after one quarter would be immediately on probation with certain restrictions. (actually even at 1.0; anything under 2.0 would ring alarm bells). It’s possible that a second quarter without improvement would lead to suspension, at least from the sports program. Fortunately, I haven’t had to deal with this.
Berkowit — not to criticize a decision I know absolutely zero about — but I imagine that a student who fails because he didn’t show up at all would not garner much sympathy (barring any circumstances you didn’t mention, of course). Why did the instructor decide to give him a break? Was there any pressure from the administration to keep the student in uniform? Was there any discussion about the lesson the student might take from this second chance?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
The instructor confirmed that the student had come to the first half or so of the quarter. I think the TA for his section confirmed that he seemed attentive and OK while he was still there. Normally, if he had requested an Incomplete at that point he would have got one, with a deadline to complete assignmnets and tests by the end of the following quarter. The university administration does want to teach students to be responsible, so they’re pretty rigid about the deadlines. But, in a sense, you could say that the requirement to file for the Incomplete by that date is clerical. The student was clearly extremely motivated to make up what was left undone (otherwise he would not have been allowed to participate in the baseball season in spring, even though he would be admitted to training in winter), so the instructor gave him a chance. As far as I know, he did well i the tests and passed the course.
Thanks. That all makes sense to me, and the fact that he completed the work speaks well of the student and the process.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
because you are not hard core when it comes to college football Jon, lets be honest.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Stanford is not going to the bottom of the Pac-12 – all indications are that they have recruited well and should maintain a winning record in the coming seasons.
I do not think there is any evidence to indicate that football players applying to Stanford have more academic leeway than they have at Cal, USC or UCLA.
I Imagine People Who Write "Stanfurd" Think...
…the “furd” is close enough to “turd.” Pretty lame indeed.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 11, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
No, it isn’t. And it smells.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
oh Nolij. I just spent an hour retracting from this moment
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
You know what's funny
the reason I find all of this “My school rules, haha you went to not my school” stupid is not because UofR lacked a rival (lol D3). It’s because it smacks of the same elitest bullshit that went on at my high school. It’s good to have school spirit (coming from the two time drum major and two time co captain of the cheerleading squad, why not) but just because you went to a school doesn’t mean anything in terms of what you are going to do with your life. It might give you a leg up in terms of networking, but it doesn’t mean much of anything as an indication for future success. So when people shit on schools like CSUN, I remember that my dad went there, and then he went on to go to law school at USC. /shrug
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I went to Berkeley and I teach math at the same school on the same salary scale as people who went to Yale, USC, other UCs, Cal States, National University and just about everywhere else. College is not just about what job you get after you graduate. I could have ended up doing the same thing had I ended up going to the ivy league schools, other state schools or small liberal arts schools I could have attended. I could have become a math teacher and saved education dollars by going to a cheaper, closer school too, but I can say that there is no doubt in my mind that I went to the right school for me.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Of course college is more than just about getting a job afterwards. It just annoys me when people are like OMG MY SCHOOL IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOUR SCHOOL OMG. OMG MY SCHOOL IS RANKED HIGHER THAN YOURS OMG. OMG YOUR SCHOOL SMELLS LIKE COW SHIT LOLOLOLOL.
Because I don’t care. If it was the right choice for you, then that’s what matters.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I think a school smelling like cow shit is a legit issue personally
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I’ve never been to Stanford, so I wouldn’t know. :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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is stanford known for smelling like cow shit?
I thought we where mockign UC Davis here
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Sorry, I was talking about Nolij’s lines about Stanford smelling. I thought you were making a callback.
Either way
I wouldn’t want my school smelling like poo, just in the general sense. Not accusing anyyone(except UC Davis) of smelling like poo
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city folk always making fun of farm folk as they eat their steak and eggs while downing it with milk.
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haha you want them unbeaten for when they play Cal? Thats same reason I want Oregon to win so they can be highly ranked when we play then in Eugene, and probably lose, but we’ll see.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
It could be worse
In Albany, New York, where I grew up, there is a State University that is built entirely of concrete.
In fact, most buildings in Albany are exposed concrete.
Albany’s most distinguishing feature is the performing arts hall The Egg:
They Might Be Giants took on The Egg in their Venue Songs.
From the outside, I am thinking
I’m a number, not a man
From the outside, I am thinking
What were they thinking?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
the egg!
my wife is from albany – we live in NYC and are there very couple of weeks – i actually think it’s a cool building – albany is not the prettiest of towns though.
by stevesaxaphone on Nov 11, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
The egg looked cool to me
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
It’s easy to make fun of, though.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
My ballot
It was sort of in groups…
Kemp and Braun were an easy top two for me. After that I was pretty open.
I thought Kershaw, Halladay, and Lee, in that order, were the best pitchers (which is how I voted in the CYA) and put them 3-4-5.
Votto and Fielder both had really good years. Votto had the edge in WAR, Fielder in OPS+. I picked Votto over Fielder because of OBP and defense, but it was close.
I like up the middle players, and thought Reyes and Tulo were the cream of that crop. Close in WAR, Reyes had the edge in OPS+, gave Tulo the edge in defense but Reyes got extra credit for baserunning, so I had Reyes 8, Tulo 9
Pujols is always great, even in a down year, and the 10th spot was up for grabs. Sandoval had a case, Berkman had a case. I went with Pujols over those two mostly because of an edge in playing time, more significantly over Sandoval than Berkman.
President Obama
is going to be on the Aircraft Carrier with the basketball game tonight. I know I’ve seen him join the broadcast booth at a sporting event before. Was it a Super Bowl? NCAA Football championship
UNC and Michigan State are playing a basketball game tonight in San Diego on top of the aircraft carrier which was the first to drop bombs on Afganistan after 9-11 in honor of Veterans Day. Obama is going to be there to address the troops and will be interviewed by ESPN in the second half
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
How does an aircraft carrier drop bombs on a landlocked country?
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by David Young on Nov 11, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
OMG WE HAVE FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I love that the word AIRCRAFT is part of the compound phrase AIRCRAFT CARRIER and yet, here we are
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Clearly an adjective though, not a noun. ;-)
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Yo trolling the girl?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I could have gone to watch this game but decided I didn’t want to drive to S.D on Vet’s Day nor did I want to hit traffic on my extended weekend.
Hey, are you available to play for TBLA in softball tournament in February in West Covina?
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I call CF.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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once G stops playing baseball every week
we will have time to play catch and stuff, so I should get better at throwing. :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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The old guys did. More than one.
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Give it time
you will. I speak from experience
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
ha ha
Nothing against Josie, but we will have to find one more skirt.
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When is the fan post going to be created? I’m having a hard time keeping up with these threads, so I’ve only caught parts of the softball game talk.
I was rusty! I hadn’t played softball since I was knee high!
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Damn Right he does!!
KEMvP
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 10:24 AM PST reply actions
Correction
Point totals were off. 14 points for 1st place vote, then 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, so Kemp had a bigger margin.
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Josie, Ive read other Charger fans say that rule is dumb too, but im not sure how it is. If someone is touching a live ball out of bounds, BEFORE a receiver controls the football,how can it not be incomplete?
because the receiver controlled the ball while staying in bounds. The DB wasn’t going for “oh if I get out of bounds, then this play will be ruled out of bounds” he was trying to break up the pass. Yet he’s given a favorable result, despite the receiver succeeding in controlling the ball in bounds.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
yeah but it wasnt controlled when the ball was touching Sheppard while he was out of bounds. I agree, that wasnt what he was trying for, but it still doesnt change that a ball was touching someone out of bounds before it was controlled by anyone. out of bounds is out of bounds, intentional or not. But I see the frustration, maybe if it happened to Raiders I would hate it too, but I dont think so.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
But im actually wondering how many DBs in the league even know of this rule, and it might change the game a little bit.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I am pretty sure that
the DB on the fake punt play did not know he was allowed to basically tackle the potential since they lined up in punt formation.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
there is no PI on a fake punt
but there could be holding
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Shit players didn't even know you could tie
in an overtime game
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Depends on the length of the game. Kellen Winslow tried to test this.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve been wondering this too. If the way it was explained is the real rule, why wouldn’t every DB just try to get his hand on the ball and stand out of bounds on corner end zone routes and fades.
well, thats what im saying maybe they didnt know any better, now they do, and I would think it will happen more, on those corner passes, tell you defender to go outside out of bounds, and try to slap at the ball before its controlled.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
it's also
it’s a call that never would have been made before replay. And I’m wary of those rules that seem unenforceable without a video camera
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Yea its just come to the point where they don’t even know how to define a catch anymore and they are just looking for ways to shape the rules to fit the replays. Somehow a catch in the endzone is different than a catch in the middle of the field. Its just dumb.
Luckily that play last night had no effect on the outcome of the game or there would be a real a shitstorm.
the ref isn’t looking to see if the defender’s feet are in, he’s looking at the receiver. I don’t think anyone know the defenders feet even mattered
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Before the call was made, when they were showing the replay on TV, I was honestly thinking to myself “hey, Sheppard is out of bounds with the ball touching his arm/shoulder before Brown controlled it” so I thought it should be out of bounds, but had no idea about the rule, or that they would call it. Even the dudes on TV werent thinking about that.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
ESPN article
Orel talking about his group and his own desire to own the Dodgers.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 10:33 AM PST reply actions
We got a few good players on this team
don’t you think?
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP
Two anyway
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
yeah...
but “a couple” just didn’t sound right. I think a few should bounce and and improve this season.
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP
They better
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Any value in one of them "smart" TVs?
Me and Mrs HJ are finally going to move into the world of a flat screen. I have a moritorium on buying more than one TV a decade, but my decade has passed and I am ready to leave my old big box 32-incher behind
I am not going to go too big – my house is small – was thinking like 42" LED LCD
What I don’t know is…should I get the smart TV with the wifi? Is that important?
I decided against 3D, but remember, this a once in a decade decision
What would you do?
If you have seriously been waiting an old school big box TV this long, then I have a feeling Wifi or 3D doesnt apply to you… How have you possible managed to go this long without watching sports in HD??
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty easy, the game is important not the boil on Beniots face
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
fuck that, you crazy…. 1st game I ever watched in HD was the Raiders vs Bucs Super Bowl, I went and got an HDTV the next day… you aint watching sports if it aint in HD
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe being faded enhances HD, but I’ve watched on HD, gone home and watched at home and couldn’t have cared less about the difference. We all care about different things.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Because you guys are old, thats why… dont get mad…. My Grandpa barely knows how to change the channel. But there is a HUGE difference, come on now
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
regular TV is whats faded… the colors are all faded, its looks like shit.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
okay
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I mean, you guys arent that old, but I meant old when it comes to technology. But older does mean wiser.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
1st game I ever watched in HD was the Raiders vs Bucs Super Bowl, I went and got an HDTV the next day
was that because you broke the other one?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
:)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
this
and I refuse to manipulated by the development cycles of technology companies and this american habit of throwing away perfectly useful things because the man on the TV told me about something new
and its not like I got an HDTV sitting right next to my older TV (which was a very nice sony, but not HD when I bought it) – so while it would suffer in comparison, by itself it suits me fine
I wouldn’t be switching out at all, but we’ve noticed some picture degradation in the past year
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
just having more room in your living room is the key
if you can throw that TV on the wall, it will be like you doubled the size of the room with that huge box tv gone
Been tinkering with moving mine above the fireplace but not sure I want it at that eyelevel after watching TV from my chair or couch forever without having to tilt my head up. Thoughts?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I just get nervous about drilling holes in my wall
I know they should be easy to patch, but still
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easy to patch
Yep. I have two little holes in my fireplace, where the wires go in and out. Should be fine — or maybe I’ll even sell the TV with the house.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I have a load-bearing TV. Cuts out the middle man.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Where is your cable box?
Hulu Box?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
On a shelf next to the fireplace.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Works out okay for
me but then the room configuration you have could be different.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Having had the pleasure of dining with HJ and Mrs. HJ in their home
I would say that 42" is probably good, 46" would be the max.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I’d go the Ned Colletti route and buy 5, 10 Inch LCD’s.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
HITNG?
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by David Young on Nov 11, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I could do that with a PC
and have them all display one contiguous image. Go Go ATI Eyefinity
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Do you use Hulu Netflix Amazon Stream or anything of that sort?
Do you want to? Would you like to be able to browse the interwebs on your tv? Stream video from your PC to your tv? If the answer to any of those questions is yes, then maybe. Otherwise you can just get a smart Blu Ray player, or a roku box for like 100 bucks to do all that anyways.
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really it comes down to price
if the difference between a dumb tv and a smart tv is more then 100 bucks, its probably not worth it.
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yeah
usually the “smart tv” interfaces arent that great or get outdated quickly. get a $90 roku box when you find the need for it and replace it when it gets outdated – which it may never get outdated to you. but its a cheaper replacement than a new tv.
Seems like Joe has the cash, I’d go get that new HD 3D TV where you can use the 3D glasses you get from the movie theatre instead of spending 100 bucks a pair. But thats me. 3D isnt a big deal now, but it might be later on. Might as well get it, and he doesnt have to even use it right now.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
I have the cash, but I cannot imagine myself wearing glasses
Not really into action movies, so outside of a gag, what is 3D really good for?
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
yeah but you never know when it might come in handy. I havent seen sports in 3D yet so im not sure how that looks to be honest, but might as well have access to it. Plus you can show off when people come over haha.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
3D tech is still expensive. There’s no reason to adopt the technology until its more widespread, and when it is, it’ll be cheaper.
I agree, which is why I dont have 3D yet, but if Joe only gets 1 TV every 10 or more years, might as well invest in it now, but I agree its not THAT important right now. Main thing is HD, MUST HAVE HD
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
I get that
and I used to be what was once considered a big gamer
but not much any more
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
aye
The only reason I care about gaming is for 3d, but the price is still too darn much.
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Just wait a couple of years, 3D tvs will either drop down way in price, or the technology will be phased out because it is a dumb tech..
but HJ is saying he won't upgrade for another 10 years
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I still wouldn’t pay the premium for 3D as it is right now. It’s adding another $300-500 to a 42 inch tv, and more for bigger sets.
If HJ won’t upgrade for another 10 years, its better to skip the 3D craze and wait for smellovision.
yeah – I don’t see how 3D is for me in any way, shape, or form
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Has anyone watched a game in 3D yet? Do the balls come flying right at your face? haha… but seriously, how is it?
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
3D gaming is even further behind 3D TV/movies.
Or are you talking about the refresh rate, which are generally higher in 3D sets?
How so is it further behind?
I’ve heard great things about gaming in 3d, most AAA titles are adding support for it.
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Because it has to rely on something most people aren’t going to get for years.
I know Sony has that 3D glasses/TV combo for $500, but eh.
So you mean
because you can go to the movie theater and see it in 3d movies are ahead?
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oh I wasnt aware of this…. OK, well, there is also this technology called contact lenses, or even lazer surgery…So go do one of those on the way to getting a HD 3D TV! im kidding.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
if you aren’t going bigger than 42", you don’t need 1080p as 780p will look the same. WiFi might be cool if you are going to stream movies without using a PS3 or like device. Refresh rates at 60Hz is plenty, and 240Hz is an unnatural feeling.
depends on viewing distance
do they even sell 720P 42 inch sets? anything more then 60hz looks like dogshit, I agree. It tries to add frames and it just looks wrong.
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I view from 6 feet away – would 46 be too big
and thanks guys – this is exactly the info I was looking for
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
ditto
and I don’t think theres a big difference in price between 42 and 46, but it sure FEELS bigger when you watch it
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When I looked at sets, its around 150-200, and it was worth it for me to get the bigger set because I’m going to be my TV in the living room.
Honestly, I buy them so infrequently, that price is not a big factor for me
If 46 makes more sense, I won’t mind spending the extra $200 bucks
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
There is a recommended chart that tells you what size TV to get depending on your viewing distance… Follow that chart for optimal performance!
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
measure your viewing distance before deciding what size to get, I highly recommend it.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
there are many such charts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance
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dam that Home Theater oriented room in that link looks redic! I want a home theatre soooo bad.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
and when you aren't
you can just move that tv to the bedroom
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YES!
We have had a standing no TV, no PC, no phone rule in the bedroom forever
I think it is great – quiet time and connecting time – without the distraction
makes the bedroom your retreat
well done!
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Makes the porn viewing inconvenient though.
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by David Young on Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
gives my wife a tv to watch while I'm watching sports for one
but she always wants to watch tv in bed or use her laptop in bed instead of using her perfectly acceptable desktop. I hate it myself, kills my neck and back.
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I am sure there are – and for many that is the right solution
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
We have only one TV, it is in the living room. Many times it would have been useful to have a TV in the garage or bedroom, but the arrangement works where we constantly compromise on what to watch so that we basically watch shows we can both put up with at the same time.
We never miss a Dodger game, or Clipper game.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I like the compromise because I am gone so much, it makes us stay together when we are home
I fear a second TV would always have one of us away from the other and that is too much of life already
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Our bedroom TV is primarily used for background viewing while getting ready for the day.
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by David Young on Nov 11, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
I mostly read the newscrawl and the stock ticker while buttoning my shirt.
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by David Young on Nov 11, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
sleep is overrated, whether I get 4 hours, or 10, doesnt really effect me.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Science says yes it does but I suspect you are an outlier to the human species.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I’m kidding. But sleep isnt going to keep a TV out of my bedroom, or living room, or kitchen, or bathroom, or in my car.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
ONE TV?? What is this the olden days?? one tv haha. Hope its atleast in color.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I just bought a new TV, and the value is in the LED, saving you in electricity. I bought an LG 47 LED TV without Wifi, and it cost me 100 less.
The thing with wifi is only if you don’t want to bother with wires, which is a minor inconvenience.
You definitely want your TV to be internet ready, whether it is hard-wired or wifi. I suggest wifi. Mine was hard wired and now I have a lot of wires. But I love the fact that my TV can stream movies.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
from Netflix?
I mean its nice to have it all integrated, but how much more was it then to not have it integrated? I can buy a Roku box for 60 bucks that does all that.
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No Roku. No PS3. No Xbox. Just TV and DVR. I could have done a price check but instead I went to the store run by my employer, saw a TV I liked, and bought it.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Son, I party like it’s 1399. I expect the bubonic plague any day.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I like that USChris has brought word “son” into TBLA common usage
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
My .02
Go LED
Get 46 inch, you’ll be happy going slightly bigger
Upgrade your home theater if needed
Get the wifi if its not too expensive. You’ll want to get on the internet eventually if not immediately
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Pretty much this
We went from 35" tube to flat screen this year.
Size is clearly a function of room size and viewing distance.
Definitely LED. I think full-lit vs. side-lit (are that the right terms?) is not much of an issue at the sizes you are talking about?
We had no home theater sound, you can get decent sound systems for a few hundred, and it is worth it.
Get the wifi. We stream Netflix to it wireless from our internet connection and it is so good. Just being able to stream episode after episode of good TV shows to catch up is worth it.
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by David Young on Nov 11, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Since we are asking tech questions
Since my Firefox upgrade, I am having issues with needing to refresh a lot of pages once or twice before they will load or to get images to show up properly. Is this a simple setting issue that I’m missing?
If you google, bing, whatever search engine you prefer, type in your issue as best you can, and you will find an answer to your problem. I dont know it, but you will find it. Thats what I do, never knew so many people have the same problems as me.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Carroll
I’m hearing he’s about to sign a multi-year deal with someone. Explosive interest apparently.
What, you don’t believe people are calling me with this info?
by silverwidow on Nov 11, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
There’s supposed to be a smiley in there, btw.
by silverwidow on Nov 11, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
A summary
Crasnick mentioned Tigers, Rockies, Dodgers, Indians, Braves, and Phillies with some level of interest.
Morosi mentioned Carroll is close to a multi-year deal with a mystery team, Blue Jays and Twins a possibility, but not Tigers.
Rosenthal says Braves and Indians are out.
Troy Renck says Rockies are not the mystery team
Dylan Hernandez says Dodgers are not the mystery team
That leaves Blue Jays or Twins
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
To bad for the Tigers, they could use Carroll. I see no reason why the Twins would sign him, I just don’t see that team competing and if you are not looking for a final piece to competitive team spending money on Jamey Carroll seems pointless.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
any team paying carroll to a multi year deal to start is insane
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 11, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
he had career years at 37 and 38
also dont think playing every day helps him.. I wouldnt do it.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Disagree
Carroll is probably best suited for the bench, but even as he ages he will be productive and certainly not a signing that would actively hurt a team.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
That thread on Gaslamp Ball would be embarrassing to Padre fans
if there were any who don’t already post there
whatever, lets all be over it
just remember we got good players and a second home in petco.
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP
no but we're better because theres more of us!
Mass makes right!
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SD people hate LA in much the same way SF people do
inferiority complex I guess
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Its one reason I want to see the Chargers move to LA
I want to see how they react, whether they continue to support the team, whether they burn their city to the ground etc
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San Diego may have an inferiority complex, but I think it’s arrogant to say San Francisco has an inferiority complex about LA.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
When it comes to sports(perhaps football excluded)?
Me thinks not.
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As a rule I find SF folks like to talk about how LA sucks, the people here are vapid, it is all Hollywood, cars and sunshine and blah, blah, stereotype, blah, blah
I find LA people like to talk about how much they enjoy vising SF and what a lovely city it is
Call it what you will
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
And similarly, SD people kind of say the same thing about LA other than replace sunshine with traffic.
LA people generally love SD.
you know why
because we are secure about ourselves, our city, our place in the world
and if that was not already the coolest – LA is now the food capital of the world, the most innovative, best, low end to high end mix of food in the world is right here baby
I love it
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I'm just saying
the LA – SF rivalry has been about way more than sports over the years. For a long time it was union vs free labor.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
now its just a people hating because they like to hate
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“You’re allowing the crowd and the competition to stimulate the same chemical response one would experience during battle.” -Bones last night
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
oh yeah its been 8 days since the season premier
time to check it out on hulu
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can’t say I agree with the food capital assessment. Is that from some recent article or just opinion?
1. I travel. A lot. I have the good fortune of spending about $25K a year of my companies money on taking people to dinner. This is my take on my experiences of finding the best and most interesting places in every city to eat at.
2. It has been suggested in many places in print of late – I am not going to look them up but they articles are our there
We have supreme access to ingredients, huge and diverse ethnic populations, and trends like pop-ups and trucks and regional ethnic cuisine. We are kinda the shit right now
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Gotcha.
From living in both places, I would rank NYC higher, but obviously LA is up there enough that its debatable.
I think until the last few years, yes probably NYC
but as NYC continued to move up scale and expensive, LA became the land of opportunity for young chefs with innovative ways of reaching the market
and we get way better produce here, Hudson river valley is great and all, but c’mon
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
way better produce in LA, no question about that but the good places to eat in nyc still find what they need.
Your assessment of nyc moving upscale is wrong though. If anything a lot of the big chefs have worked hard on opening cheaper places that appeal to the masses. On top of that, there are more and more delicious young entrepreneurs that have opened cheap pop-up shops, food trucks, street carts, etc… The diversity is pretty amazing too.
I love LA’s food and it actually suits me better because the one thing new york can’t get a good hold on is mexican which is probably my favorite food.
The diversity and options and accessibility in nyc is unmatchable though.
I don’t know there is a right answer here – just giving you my take and what I have seen in the press
I do take exception to this
The diversity and options and accessibility in nyc is unmatchable though.
What do they have there that we don’t have here?
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I could elaborate more, but basically you can find delicious food, whatever ethnicity you want, and whatever price range you want, and its all at your fingertips. In many cases there’s dozens of great places on one block, whereas in LA you’re constantly 20 minutes away (as BH referenced below).
that’s more the fault of LA being more spread out, though
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
and really does it matter?
how many restaurants are you going to eat at on that one block in one go?
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I think the “everything on one block thing”
Is both a value and overstated
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
While New York still is well New York
Los Angeles has that unique blend of ethnic, casual, but with refinement style of dining and foods that makes it really a diverse and exciting place to eat. You can buy street tacos or get some really good Mole within 20 minutes of each other. As HJ says, LA with for years was known for who you saw at the restaurant rather than what you ate there has gone 180 on that and I think this will be the trend going forward.
(though it doesn’t hurt to get some celebs in the doors too).
by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
It’s in the realm of the anecdotal but from someone quite authoritative: in yesterday’s LA Times, the restaurant critic S. Irene Virbilia (who has admirably high standards, no grade inflation: with a maximum grading of 4 stars, almost all the restaurants she praises get 2 to 2.5 stars; very few get 3, and she gives 4 stars about once every three years) quoted “friends” and colleagues in the restaurant business from New York and San Francisco as saying that in the past year or two, Los Angeles now has the better restaurants, or more better restaurants. Not very scientific, but soem sort of sign of the times, perhaps.
She’s hell on tech support I can tell you.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'll just say
She’s a little above Plaschke in her technical abilities.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
As someone who has lived in both cities, I agree that SF folks tend to be more negative toward LA than the other way.around. Jealously comes into play in this, to some extent. Now I’m truly neutral, living on the central coast….
really?
go to any SD sports blog when they talk about LA, they hates us
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Went to SD when the Dodgers played that makeup double header this year in full dodger gear, sat in a sports bar and cheered for the Dodgers, no one said a thing.
Right, the blase was actually annoying.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Because Padres bloggers don’t go to the games, just like everyone else in San Diego.
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wouldn’t know. haven’t seen a pro football game in person. Unless you mean the fan/stand rivalry, in which case, I’d be right in the middle of it.
Football games in general are much better on TV than in person IMO.
The detail and precision you get by watching on TV just on yardage, where the ball is spotted, the first down marker, etc. is enough to swing the scale in favor of my couch.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Right
But there are positives to being in person, too. The excitement and rush of the crowd on a great play can be pretty euphoric in person.
I’m saying if price was equal that in most cases I would choose TV football over in person football.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I wan tto go to a houston texans game
and a lot of the reason is to see if the tailgating is really all that.
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I tailgated in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and San Francisco – it was awesome every time
also have the college tailgating at UCLA and USC – also very cool
want to go to SEC game
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Went to a cal game last weekend
but no real tailgating because they are at ATT park this year
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even when the games are in Berkeley, the parking lots are too broken up to get a real good tailgating experience
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
What I like about football in person that I don’t get on TV
1. I don’t have to only watch the ball
2. I get a better sense of the whole field and how the teams are playing / trying to do
3. I can anticipate plays much better
4. I like the stadium experience and rooting with compatriots
But you do have a point – replays, precision, and access to a clean loo are also important too
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Good list
1 and 2 are great and feed into 3. Definitely a plus.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
I never saw my beloved LA Rams in person because we simply couldn’t afford a football ticket. Did see the Raiders a few times.
Most football I ever saw was as a UCLA season ticket holder during the 90’s. I loved the life experience. As great as 1 – 3 are, number four at a football game trumps all of it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I saw the Rams once, their opener in 1972, because someone gave us a pair of tickets. They were still wearing blue and white unis then. Willie Ellison couldn’t play for some reason, but (rookie?) Bob Thomas ran for 144 yards and the Rams romped. Roman Gabriel was still the playcaller. Archie Manning was the opposing QB.
(How times have changed: I was not quite 12 then. My little and I used the tickets. My parents considered it perfectly acceptable to drop us off at the Coliseum and let us walk in. We had zero problems.)
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The Fearsome Foursome was history by then though. The D-Line still had Merlin Olsen; Coy Bacon was in Deacon Jones spot at left end, and the rest of the line was a rookie named Larry Brooks and a second-year guy called Jack Youngblood.
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Hey David, when did tailgaiting in LA become illegal? or has it always been that way? I fuckin hate it!
Is it allowed in Exposition Park for USC games?
I don’t remember seeing it ever in DS.
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Its done at USC yes, but as far as I know its only on campus, and thats who they get away with it. I think anyways. Thats where I was when I have. But I dont know about DS thats why I asked you. Plus when we had NFL teams there was never tailgating? thats gonna suck when we get another team.
Well if they put the stadium in downtown
wouldn’t all of LA live become one giant “tailgate”? Not the same, but could still be fun
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I only saw one Rams
regular season game. At Anaheim, when Ferragamo threw for about 1000 yards but they still lost. I saw a Raiders Playoffs game against the Jets in 81 82 or something. I’ve been to one USC-UCLA games and one USC-Notre Dame hame. All in the 60’s.
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It's still true but not as true as it used to be. Maybe due to being more transplants up here now
(even more SoCal folk) or people who lived there or whatever, I just don’t hear as much LA bashing as I used to. But specifically Giants fans still seem to mouth off about how much LA sucks, etc etc. Still tiresome even if again not quite as vocally bad as it used to be.
SD fans seem to hate LA even more. Let’s put it this way, Giants bloggers and fans who at least have some knowledge of the game, would say how much they hate the Dodgers but also not vote Kershaw 5th.
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I wish I knew how Giants’ bloggers voted.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Giants bloggers and fans who at least have some knowledge of the game, would say how much they hate the Dodgers but also not vote Kershaw 5th.
No, they just chose not to vote at all, which is just as bad!
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Wait, I thought they voted in the pitcher/Kershaw vote at least
just not in the MVP/Kemp vote?
Which is still lame.
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Nope
Everyone who voted voted for everything in their league. The ballot had all three awards on one page.
The four blogs mentioned above did not submit a single ballot for any award.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
it reeks of sewage on the streets there. i like that the TV Show Inspector America confirmed that for me
oh it definitely does. Every other street corner you get a whiff of it
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I like the Chargers song - it is catchy
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I was waiting for someone to hit that bait
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
It would have no affect.
Charger fans do not exist.
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Ball So Hard University
being back in Santa Barbara
everyone bashes LA. it kinda makes me sad. I hated LA before I moved here… now I love it and wil lcontinue to love it when im in SB. even thou in SB, everything is 15 min away haha
I don’t know, they mostly just bash the LA traffic. It’s true that in SB everything is just 15 minutes away, or 10. That’s partly because there’s never any gridlock. not just the distances. SB is just 30 minutes too far from LA to make it an easy trip, or I’d go in much more often. When I first came here (and was younger), I went in a lot. But it’s not so much fun to go in for an evening, finish at 10:00 or 10:30, no time for a meal at that point, come back to SB and get back at 1:00 AM. Now and again, sure. So gradually you get removed from LA though it’s not not far away.
yeah
im realizing this. i stay in SB during the week for work, then drive back to LA on friday afternoon (ew) but drive back to SB sunday night, which is a strangely peaceful and almost enjoyable ride. It will be interesting to see how my relationship with LA changes once we fully move to SB, but we will always be connected here because of my wifes family and business.
berkowit, we are going to have to do some SB TBLA event.s
Absolutely. Someone else – is it nolander? – is from SB and returns home from SF to visit now and again. And David Young apparently comes up to visit someone or for sentimental reasons from time to time. Not to mention it’s only 45 minutes or so away from anyone living in 1000 Oaks.
Hollister Brewery.
wait so all this stuff you guys have been posting all day is for real? Who comes up with this shit?
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I am unaware of this ’stuff"; been busy with work.
by silverwidow on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Highly paid consultants and designers.
I know, I’m amazed, too.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree, on these grounds:
There is nothing wrong with that kind of cocktail when you are in Miami or the islands. You may order them to your heart’s content.
This cap has decided that there’s something wrong with it, though, and has tried to butch it up.
If you’re gonna get that cocktail, fuckin’ get that cocktail.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I appreciate our simplicity. That’s how it should always be.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 11, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
So the market for this is IVDown?
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Those are number I am confident I could produce, given enough at bats
I might do it hitting .079 with an OBP of .050, but still
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
yes!
lean in and wear one
lay down a bunt
scoring fly ball
fielder’s choice but no DP
a ground ball with eyes
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Hey, how could your OBP be lower than you BA? Would it be sympathy from the official scorer, giving you singles on line drives off the wall where you were thrown out at first?
not factored (unless those bunts are hits)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
OBP =
(H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
it sucks tho
beause besides those numbers, his value can not be described… he should be a type B but w.e
by matthewmafa on Nov 11, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Phillies sign Papelbon
JSalisburyCSN
The Phils and Papelbon have reached agreement sources tell CSNPhilly.com. Pending physical.
will no one applaud this man? (applause)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
I’m glad the Madsen signing wafted into the netherworld.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Now Ned can give him 10 Million
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Yup
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
You mean Netherlands.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
what fun!! :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Missing headline
The city of brotherly love has a Papleboner
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I expect Madson to sign with Boston in the next 5-7 days. : )
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
Hah, me too actually. And they could end up better off for it.
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Amazeballs
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Sources say Papelbon deal is four years and approaches $50 million, pending physical #phillies
by silverwidow on Nov 11, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I mean its an overpay
but at least its an overpay of an actually eliteish guy
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Papelbon is an avid fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars and attends games at Everbank Field after the completion of the baseball season.
by silverwidow on Nov 11, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I'm cool with the Jags
the Titans can go fuck themselves though
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Phillies strategy this offseason
sign every free agent
by eitherethier on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
$120M Teams
added Phil’s team to the mix. Six $120M teams each playing each other 10 times, 5 at home and 5 on the road. Here is how they do facing only each other.
1. REG (0.5094, 82.52)
2. Chris (0.5029, 81.48)
3. Joey Joe (0.5007, 81.12)
4. G.Scott (0.5001, 81.01)
5. Jason (0.4971, 80.54)
6. Phil (0.4697, 76.09)
Pretty close grouping, except one of those teams kind of sucks
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but at least I can sleep at night knowing I’m giving the core one more shot and not spending money on players who have no chance of playing with us. We all know three things.
Loney is the 1st baseman
Gordon is the SS
Kemp is the CF
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Broxton
Jerry Crasnick says 6-8 teams are in on him and have asked for medical records, including Blue Jays but not Mets.
I guess that eliminates the Dodgers
though I could see them forgetting to check their own medical records. ;)
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From what I've heard from a couple of people in PA "in the know" (one a reporter)
this story is going to get even WORSE before it’s all over. Sad to say, but I’m pretty sure they’re right. The students rioting for Paterno are going to feel even more horrible about themselves in the coming months and years.
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why?
Why can’t you support Paterno and be anti child ass raping?
Are these mutually exclusive?
Do we really know what Paterno knew and believed to be true?
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Did you read the grand jury thing yet?
I mean shit, Joe Pa knew he was under Federal investigation for kiddy fiddling, and decided he should still use him to recruit.
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From the grand jury statment
easily found on the web in a scanned in pdf form (tough to search, tougher to read any of it):
Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant’s report [about Sandusky] at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley (“Curley”), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno’s immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.
Approximately one and a half weeks later, the graduate assistant was called to a meeting with [Curley] and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz (“Schultz”). The graduate assistant reported to Curley and Schultz that he had witnessed what he believed to be Sandusky having anal sex with a boy in the Lasch Building showers. Curley and Schultz assured the graduate assistant that they would look into it and determine what further action they would take. Paterno was not present for this meeting.
…
Schultz later testified that he was called to a meeting with Joe Paterno and Tim Curley, in which Paterno reported “disturbing” and “inappropriate” conduct in the shower by Sandusky upon a young boy, as reported to him by a student or graduate student.
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And Sandusky was still allowed back on the premises up til very recently.
The whole thing is depressing beyond belief. There are at least 15 people involved who knew what was going on and did nothing about it. For years.
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I read the grand jury report. Seriously guys, Paterno's not a criminal and I feel sad this is how he's going out
but to act like he’s blameless here is being in serious denial. Sorry.
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OT
Carson Palmer looked a 100% better last night, if he can play that well and the Raiders can run the ball, they should win the West.
yes
he looked smart and comfortable
he has lost something off the fastball, but yes
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
deep ball was great, I agree
deep out had some hump on the ball
I watched him a lot when he was with the Bengals, used to kill the steelers on that deep out
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
cant wait till next year when mat latos has a CY young season...
phil and eric…. u know what to do!!
If Mat Latos puts up Cy Young numbers next year...
I will be sad. If Phil and Eric don’t vote for him as he deserves, I will be disappointed.
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I’m not voting next year, if SB Nation is going to make a big deal about their SB Nation awards and then basically let their baseball editors skip the whole process fuck em. I’ve got better things to do like waste my time dicking around here.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
If they didn’t make a big deal, no one would vote. Making a big deal means half the people vote.
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
the girl who voted
said he did it soley based on looks
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Could have been joking. Who knows? Less care.
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Josie would vote based on who was wearing the best uniforms
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I gave a lot of thought to my vote for the SBNation soccer awards, but yes I would have voted according to uniforms
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
i'm glad our more eloquent posters were the ones over there
the only thing I really felt like responding too (though I didn’t) was one them saying “when was the last time the Dodgers won a WS?”
Don’t know if you can really say that if never won one.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
“When’s the last time LA won an NL Championship? Dodger fans saying SCOREBOARD make me laugh”
We were second place more recently than you!…
we also went to two nl championships in the last 4 years
while they managed to completely fail last year
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We also spent more then they did, I really have a hard time with teams with larger payrolls looking down their noses at the competitors who have tighter constraints.
The last thing I’d have wanted was for this to boil over into our franchise is better then yours so suck it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
the whole thing is silly
I don’t get why dodger fans who feel slighted by the gaslamp guys vote can then go and think the proper response is to basically do the same thing.
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- Orel
For what it’s worth, Steve Garvey had 1 single, 1 double, 1 walk, 7K in 24PA against Orel Hershiser. I think it’s clear who gets to be COO and who gets to be Chairman
you tripon'd me
in the same thread. kudos
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
yah huh
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/11/11/2553632/national-league-mvp-matt-kemp#82592880
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
tail end of career versus up and coming. One thing about Garvey he was at his best against the best. His all star numbers and post season numbers are impressive.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
My meta take on the GLB kerfluffle
This is all borne of the perceived anonymity of the internet.
Even if Padre fangirl hates the Dodgers, if one were to sit down with her (as I have no reason to believe she is not an actually informed baseball fan), I would expect she would say something along the lines of “I really hate to say it, but Clayton Kershaw was the best [or second-best] pitcher in the league this year.”
Secondly, if Padre fangirl came up to any of us (most of us at least) and said “I decided to list CK fifth on a Cy Young ballot, largely because I don’t like the Dodgers,” our response would be different. We would be confused and disappointed. We would almost certainly not tell her to go fuck herself.
Thirdly, if Dex taken the vote seriously enough to cast it himself, he would have presumably voted reasonably. Now he’s got to defend his girl with this phony puffery allowed again by the facade of the internet. As G. points out, in real life, there is no substantive Dodgers-Padres rivalry. In 1984, they acquired our most popular player of the previous 20 years and rode him to a pennant and the response from Dodgers fans was largely “good for them.”
I don’t feel “butt hurt” by their antics. I am mostly just reminded that the internet as a whole (and the blogosphere as microcosm) allows for the amount of hyperbole that we have seen over these past few days. I am disappointed that all SBN editors do not have the journalistic standards and integrity that Eric displays on an ongoing basis, but I really can’t feel angry about any of this. Nonetheless, fuck those guys.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Nov 11, 2011 12:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That is pointless for both the Twins and Jamey. I guess he has been so used to losing with the Rockies / Indians / Dodgers he only feels comfortable on a franchise going nowhere.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
What happened to the Blue Jays?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Why is this question directed at me?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Just continuing the thread? Not really directed at you.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
If Carroll was really given the starting SS gig with the Twins I’m going to guess the BlueJays did not offer the same thing since they have one of the best shortstops in the Al thanks to the Braves stupidity.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Character
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
was just thinking this
this being the internet.
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP
New GMs, old GMs, retreads, all the same
mlbdepthcharts
Jamey Carroll is close to a multi-year deal with the #Twins, according to @jcrasnick, who also says Carroll would be their starting SS.
wow, really?
I like Jamey and all, but that seems like a big mistake. Does that move Nishioka to 2B?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Uh
It will be curious to see which ends up the lousier deal, the one they gave Nishioka last year or the one they gave Jamey this year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Nishioka was terrible last year. .527 OPS with bad defense according to baseball reference.
by eitherethier on Nov 11, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Rosenthal now confirming Crasnick. Twins are close to 2-year deal with Carroll, who will be their starting SS
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Well, there shall be no basketball in professional cities.
Latest owner deal is that any player under 5 year service time can be sent to the NBDL for a severely reduced salary.
He's worth that and more, really.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 11, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Good luck Jamey. You should have played there when they had the dome and your slappers would have rolled farther and faster on the turf.
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Dear Twins fans,
You will love this guy. All he does is every damn thing that is asked of him.
Your pal,
Humma
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Good Luck Gamer
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Mobile me
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 1:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
What hath technology unleashed?
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Drink now through 2020
I plan on that. And beyond!
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I want wine. :(
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I am strongly considering lunch 30 minutes from now at Mercantile
that lunch will include a glass of red wine
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
ding!
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
sweet
That is a fun game. If I had $500 bucks to blow, I’d blow it on….
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t you read what USChris had to say about hookers?
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
be specific
What kind of clothes
How big of a monitor
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
24 inch monitor
boots, maybe chippewa gq’s, or maybe just sack up and spend 300 dollars on wolverine 1,000 miles and never have to buy new boots again.
Pants that actually fit my ever decreasing frame
Dress shirts of a decent quality
MOAR SWEATERS
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
did you get the SQUAT MOAR workout I tweeted you?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
last night
I never seem to see when people directly twatter me
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I can't do body weight squats
I have to use my power cage to justify the price to myself :)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
ha!
well you can always do a round of body weight squats and THEN use the power cage for extra oomph. :)
I might do that workout tonight, if I start feeling any better.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I know how to live, I just don’t know how to fund it : )
by Josie Becker on Nov 11, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
that fits the definition of blowing it
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
two chicks at once.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
ugh – @ 250 bucks each?
you need like 4 grand to do that properly
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Cue delias man to tell everybody how cheap I am
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Nov 11, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
yeah at 250 each your probably talking about an hour of full service from each, decent looking but probably addicted to drugs, and you might have to go to them, at their nasty motel in Sherman Oaks, or in Studio City.
the accuracy of what you get and where you get for 250 bucks was dart board like in its precision
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
and they will rob little humma for sure
by delias man on Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And leave extra time to get there. Food trucks might slow you down.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Whore Trucks are going to be the next big thing
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
true story
In Italy, especially southern italy, on the secondary rural highways going in and out of big cities are motorhomes parked by the side of the road and staffed with hookers
the customers are mostly long haul truckers
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 11, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
So thats what the Sushi Burrito really is… Is code for an asian and a latina… dam I knew there couldnt REALLY be a sushi burrito!
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No, dont worry about being on time because they’ll still be bangin the guy that came before you. SO if you are on time you will just be sitting in your car waiting anyways. They have guys lined up like a fuckin assembly line, to maximize their income before heading back to SD, or Arizona, maybe even Vegas, or SF. Pretty nasty actually.
There isnt much you can blow 500 on these days. I’ll make you a drug roster with a 500 dollar payroll and let you know exactly what you can do.
by uschris0304 on Nov 11, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
1/3 of a half an inning of Juan Rivera
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 11, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Sands hit .250/.325/.375 in 20 games for Licey, just five extra-base hit in 72 at-bats.
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
phil_gurnee Phil Gurnee
Belt had six extra base hits in 70 ab-bats, Have no idea what that means but I do know that Sands had twice as many home runs and run batted in as Mr Super Prospect Belt
zero seconds ago, nonfavorite retweet reply
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Occupy Legoland
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
students tried to have occupy walkout protests at UCI
it didn’t go anywhere
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The last 3 years?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
well I guess, I told you I literally dont watch the news, at all, ever. If it doesnt have to do with sports, good chance I dont know about it. But I see it on South Park, or this or that. Is this something Obama said?
educate yoself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_are_the_99%25
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Probably the economic crisis
the 1%
the 99%
the unemployment rate
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
ok, so who is the 1% and 99%, keep reading about that too. Just want to know so I can get the jokes when people make them.
educate yoself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_are_the_99%25
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Outstanding
Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Marlins have made substantial offers to both Reyes and Pujols. #STLCards #Mets #mlb
Pujols
Infante
Reyes
Ramirez
Stanton
anybody’s mother
Morrison
Would be one hell of a lineup
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Needs Miles for balance
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
so awesome
I think I would consider buying one of those miami caps the rest of you hate so much.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
They’re not getting Prince.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The Rays should sign David Ortiz if Boston is not interested.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If the Rays’ payroll is going to be ~50M, they can’t justify 25% of it going to a DH… can they?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Did you know that RC cola is run by anyone at all?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Nov 11, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Remote control Cola
is my favorite
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Grant of McCovey Chronicles explains not voting
In a reply in an old thread:
I never saw the email. Google Groups snafu.
It’s the first year I didn’t vote. I enjoy it every year.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 11, 2011 2:10 PM PST
Follow @DavidYoungTBLA
- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
surprised SBNation wouldn't be all like
YO YOU DIDN’T VOTE FOOL
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I was overwhelmed with all the e-mails that came through the SBN group
So I opted for the daily recap/digest from Google Groups. It’s great most of the time, but every so often I miss something …
I really didn’t think anyone would have noticed, actually.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 15, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Raul Ibanez?
Cocaine’s a helluva drug.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Nov 12, 2011 9:12 PM PST reply actions
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