Dodgers, Kemp 'Getting Close' On Eight-Year, $160 Million Extension
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 8:46 AM PST
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During the hot stove season, the rumor mill is constantly churning and it is important not to get too excited one way or another. That said, it's impossible for Dodgers fans to not see this news and not be ecstatic. According to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports:
Sources: #Dodgers, Kemp in serious discussions on eight-year, $160M contract. #mlb
Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports chimed in as well:
Confirming @Ken_Rosenthal get, the Dodgers and Kemp are getting close. 8 years and $160m is about right.
Kemp has one more year of arbitration remaining, and is in line to more than double his $7.1 million 2011 salary after his MVP-caliber season. MLB Trade Rumors, for instance, predicted Kemp would get $16.3 million in arbitration, which means in addition to that Kemp would basically getting somewhere close to the Carl Crawford contract (seven years, $142 million).
There is always risk involved with any type of a long-term deal, and we only need to look back at Kemp's 2010 season to see the potential downside of such a deal. But considering the Dodgers have very rarely kept their own developed talent beyond their arbitration years in the last two decades, it would be a refreshing change of pace.
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I can’t say “YES!!!” loud enough.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 8:53 AM PST reply actions
Well this would certainly make my day. So, go ahead Dodgers, make my day.
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Great news
I’m guessing this deal will be back-loaded in some way. Maybe only $13mm – $15mm in the first year…
Isn’t that true of every major league contract?
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
Except most of the ones signed by the Yankees.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Tex and A-Rod are just flat-lined through the end of the term?
I had no idea
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
not A-Rod
but CC’s 7-year deal, AJB, Tex, Posada, Rivera, Damon…
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Is it? Why would a Free Agent need to take a back loaded deal? I can understand if you said every contract for arb eligible players, but every contract?
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Maybe I’ve just got basketball on the brain this morning, but I figured every deal ramps up to a point where the highest value comes at the end of the contract.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
My half-assed guess to the deal breakdown
$4 million signing bonus ($2m now, $1m each in 2013, 2014)
2012: $12 million
2013: $19 million
2014: $19 million
2015: $20 million
2016: $20 million
2017: $21 million
2018: $21 million
2019: $22 million
2020: $23 million option ($2 million buyout)
BofA charges $10 for every novelty check deposit.
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RoYs get announced today, yes?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Can’t way to read about Gaslamp getting upset about the lack of respect for Guzman and Luebke
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Is anyone officially calling them GasBag blog yet?
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Not "officially" but...
I am hopeful that the Gasbag Ball morons are the outliers.
by David Young on Nov 10, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
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I saw those guys were taking shot at our own xeifrank on Twitter this weekend.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
It bothers me more that SBN doesn't care
oh well
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by nolander on Nov 14, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
On one hand, it is nice that SB Nation is not getting involved. If their fans like them, then that is how it should stay.
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Comments is not a very good way to determine interest. Maybe they only talk about Padre baseball which limits the scope of the conversations.
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I think they should be involved
when it comes to the SBNation award, I don’t think they need to like kick gaslamp out of SBN entirely or anything. But something like saying if they aren’t going to take the award seriously then they won’t be allowed to vote in the future would be nice.
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they probably shouldn’t give out awards, or we shouldn’t give a rats ass about them. Either or. We should have our own TBLA MVP, Cy Young etc… votes. Let everyone here fill out a ballot. If we are going to meaningless awards, mind as well do them our way.
God knows how objective that voting would be
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“What do you mean Javy Guerra wasn’t rookie of the year?”
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
RDLR FTMFW
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Justin Sellers got more curtain calls than all of those guys put together!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
if you are going to have a totally meaningless award that can get screwed over by people either not voting or voting based off of some irrational rationale then you mind as well do it like this.
When you are going to create a blogosphere consisting of hobby work, who have no vested financial interest in helping the SB Nation brand, you are not going to get 30 editors rowing in the same direction.
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It will be nice to change Kemp from Italics to bold
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love it!!!
now who’s next? Kershaw?
Ray Guilfoyle
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I think that’s what they call a good problem
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Rotowire Rising Starts report from the AFL:
— Bryce Harper: His swing no longer looks like he is coming out of his shoes with every hack but he saw a heavy dose of left-handed pitching in both games and went 1 -for the weekend. His bat speed is so crazy my friend who was snapping pictures with his digital camera was only able to pick up a blur with Harper’s swings.
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Let the Bison roam…eight more years!
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 9:12 AM PST reply actions
I am in Las Vegas
I love getting up at 5AM figuring to work in a little time at the tables before I start my work day and passing all kinds of people on their way to bed
People look spent, bankrupt
Wow 8 years?
Since he is still under control (through arb) for another year and no other team is got rights to try and sign him. Isn’t it surprising to see him get 8 years instead of 6?
I’m happy regardless. Just kind of worried that we could end up paying a guy 20 million at ages 35 and 36
pay him at 35, or don’t get to pay him from 27-34. Cost of business.
by G.Scott on Nov 14, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember the rumors that Kemp wanted 6 years/66 million (similar to what Nick Markasis got) during his 2010 season.
Trying to time the market is pretty impossible.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
most guys don't hit free agency till they are 36
matt is still 27, so no, thats not that crazy.
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Like Eric Karros.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I know.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
(My point was that he was the only[?] Dodger to have 10 and 5 rights and he got traded anyway)
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Which is why he wasn’t traded?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes
Matt Kemp will gain 10/5 rights in 2016
Thus ensuring Dodger for life status.
by Tripon on Nov 14, 2011 9:18 AM PST reply actions
Two Dodgers had 10/5 rights. Both were traded.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
the vernon trade will be ending in a few years
just in time for us to trade them kemp
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Because EK and Raffy weren’t overpaid at the time of their trades.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
So Tripon’s phase should have ended with, “…, provided Kemp desires it.”
This is worth a comment debate?
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
At least this is not a choosing Karros over Piazza situation. That would be more like signing Ethier long-term and dealing Kemp for a talented but hard to root for hitter.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Is Milton Bradley out of the league?
No names popped to mind, or I would have dropped one in there.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Shane Victorino:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Gerado Parra
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
I thought of that, but as you have pointed out repeatedly, he’s probably not hard to root for if he plays for your team.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
but I’m objective:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
JD Drew
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
talented
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
z
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Also with Jered Weaver re-signing with #Angels and now Kemp with #Dodgers next yr’s free-agt market is taking big hits
2 minutes ago
Andre Ethier is now the best FA in the 2012 market.
Josh Hamilton is still out there
An injury prone Josh Hamilton>a slightly less injury prone (now) Ethier. But it really does show that the 2012 class of free agents is dwindling.
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2012 free agent market is tough to compare to this year when we have Pujols, Fielder, Reyes all on the market
Still point stands that with Weaver and Kemp off, marquis free agents be dwindling
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Baseball has gone through a period of limited stars being developed, so the last several draft classes have been extremely top heavy. Teams are left deciding if they want to pay one of the two premium free agents or building with depth, and the teams that miss out on the prime free agents are finding they’ve missed out on the solid depth guys, a la 2011 Yankees missing out on Lee and being stuck holding the line.
Seems since the onset of twitter, TBLA has simply become a twisted sister with people giving their best shots to the followers of fashion.
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I can tweet from my phone in the dead stopped traffic on the 405 on my way in. Not too fond of commenting on TBLA from my phone yet.
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Rosenthal is a follower of fashion
because he wears bow ties?
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Only
Dedicated followers of fashion.
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bit of an homage to Maddz, really.
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If Matt does sign this deal, 91% chance he will own ever single Los Angeles Dodger record by the time he’s done.
For Example:
Home Runs – Currently 13th with 128, First is Karros at 270, Kemp should average at least 22 (8*22) = 176+128 = 304
Runs Batted In – Currently 17th with 457, First is Garvey at 992, Kemp should average at least 80 (80*8) = 457+640 =1097
Runs Scored – Currently 16th at 464, First is Willie Davis at 1,004, Kemp should average at least 80 (80*8) =464+640 =1104
Hits – Currently 23rd at 840, First is Willie Davis at 2,091, Kemp should average 150 (150*8) =1200+840 = 2,050
Okay, maybe not hits:)
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if we pay the man $20 mil and he averages 22hr, 80r, 80rbi and 150hits it’ll either have been an awful contract or awful teams surrounding him.
Yes, just using the floor for the averages, he could easily get hurt and miss a full year.
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Dodger fans hoped that Willie Davis would become our Willie Mays. Matt Kemp seems to have a good chance of coming the closest.
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Looking back towards August till the end of the season
to now….things have been looking very good for us Dodger fans.
by Dodgerblue8188 on Nov 14, 2011 9:31 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how many Matt Kemp jerseys
will suddenly be bought now that he’ll be here for the rest of the decade?
I was one that pretty much held off
because I didn’t want to buy one and then see him go else where.
by Dodgerblue8188 on Nov 14, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
I bought a Russell Martin
jersey in 2008 :(
by Dodgerblue8188 on Nov 14, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
I started playing MLB Front Office Manager last night (starts during the offseason after the 2008 season), and I still gave Martin a 7/42 extension.
I started a 2006 Dodgers Baseball Mogul franchise
Traded Kemp, Loney, and a bunch of prospects for Miggy, and Martin actually turned into my 2nd best hitter behind Miggy. It’s awesome to see a catcher with over a .415 OBP.
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I could never do that
not even in a game
When I played Madden in franchise mode I could never trade Hines Ward, I had him on the team when is pretty much used a walker to run his routes
strangely foretold this year actually
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
I usually don't trade Kemp unless he just becomes not a good player
I wanted to see what would happen if I rewrote history and got Miggy back then. Turns out we’d wn the division 3 times in a row but never make it out of the first round.
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My Father's Day present, 2009
Authentic Matt Kemp jersey. Have worn it to every game since, expect when using a press pass of course.
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I bought a J.D. Drew shirt-zee, which has become a car rag with my Paul Lo Duca shirt-zee.
What I do have though is a Clayton Kershaw #96 shirt-zee that I ordered the day he was called up to the big league spring training. Unfortunately, I’ve put on weight since then and risk looking like an oblivious hipster when I wear it.
I bought a kemp tshirt in 2007, maybe even very late 2006
was a far better purchase than my milton bradley shirt in 2005.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
a Kemp jersey for my little bro
And a Kershaw jersey for me
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I've been wanting one for 2 and a half years
I think this year I’ll plant the idea of a Kemp jersey for my birthday/Christmas :)
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Confidential to Eric
Funny wording in ESPN quickie article on Kemp contract rumors that Kemp had?
the final season of what originally was a two-year, $10.95 million deal that ballooned to $11.1 million with incentives.In MLB salary terms, adding $150,000 in incentives is hardly “ballooning”!
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It put Kemp over the magical $11 million threshold! :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Boner again
#Dodgers could announce Kemp contract at 1 p.m. youth field dedication. McCourt and Kemp to attend.
Shaikin
Looks like my over/under of the end of the week is going to come in way under.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Did not know Frank was still making public appearances. Bold
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From my napkin calculations
an 8/$160M contract is valuing Kemp at around a 5.5 WAR player. I will show my work if you ask, but it is a bit messy. :)
Year Age $WAR WAR Value
2012 27 4.50 5.50 16.30
2013 28 4.73 5.50 25.99
2014 29 4.96 5.00 24.81
2015 30 5.21 4.50 23.44
2016 31 5.47 4.00 21.88
2017 32 5.74 3.50 20.10
2018 33 6.03 3.00 18.09
2019 34 6.33 2.50 15.83
Total 33.50 166.44
Do bisons age well? :)
I could’ve started him at a lower WAR value and deducted differently for aging. But this is the general one method fits all back of the napkin calculations that estimate these things half way decently.
Dee Gordon congratulated Kemp via Twitter
@TheRealMattKemp = hard worker, big bro, great teammate, and well deserved to get that $160m…congrats!!!!!!!
Damn – this is most aweseome
HJ must be tearing up Vegas at this very moment
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Sitting in my robe and slippers, looking out at the strip
I am on a shitty conference call about cost management and the happiest guy on the phone!
Might have to put some cash down on Dodgers winning the pennant based on this news – odds gotta be long
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Same team as yesterday, maybe you can get odds for 2013:)
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really – that isn’t so good
I think I can get the Steelers for the same in Football
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Casears or the Hilton might be the only place that would have that yet. I couldn’t even get full season wins over/under at Mirage last March.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
1:01pm Twitter: Kemp signs for $170mil, Teammate Dee says Kemp only worth $160mil.
by G.Scott on Nov 14, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you need a place to eat, go to Happy Sweet next to the courthouse!
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 14, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
in the backyard of Frank’s new house.
by Xeifrank on Nov 14, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Should be on Dodger web site under events
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I had a gang case this summer that involved Mona Park…
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 14, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Ha. Compton really isnt that bad of a place, but obviously its reputation sucks. Just dont go wandering down there at night.
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I think Compton is where they have street gangs involved in a cricket league, believe it or not. I think they had some West indian members, started with them, and worked off that. I don’t have time now, but I’ll google later and see if I can find the links. I believe there was a TV program made about them (in UK, I think).
Sounds like a Korean porn queen.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
kind of closeish to you, isn’t it?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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that's cool.
stuck in the valley for today. might make a workout detour so i can get rid of this negative “i hate everything” energy
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kemp
should thank red asses like kent and bowa if he appears. tell them to get bent and then dance around with is novelty check.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 14, 2011 9:44 AM PST reply actions
granted
their advice to him that he needs to focus probably got him to where he is today, but man we were so worried they were going to drive him out of town.. ned too..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 14, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
their advice to him that he needs to focus probably got him to where he is today
I couldn’t disagree with this more.
the message or the medium?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 14, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Having MVP talent and becoming a MVP could easily have been better motivation.
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If we’re going to award anything to any coach, shouldn’t it be to Davey Lopes? A coach that Kemp said on record on helping him?
by Tripon on Nov 14, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly, for whatever reason Matt Kemp was motivated headed into 2011? Contract, unhappiness over 2010 season, or maturation?
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Lopes was a huge boon to the success of 2011 Matt Kemp
I’m so glad he came back to the Dodgers.
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He was an MVP talent before
He even admitted to lacking focus in 2010 though. I’m definitely not saying it was cool to call him out (Ned), or to say not great things about him (Bowa and Kent), but sometimes motivation is needed like that.
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When does Kemp move from CF to RF?
Most pundits think this is almost a certainty. Andre Dawson moved to start his age-29 season, but his knees got screwed by the crappy artificial turf in Montreal, and in other parks. My wild-ass guess is at least five more season in CF for The Bison, possible move to RF for age-32 season.
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As soon as a star prospect comes up who is also a centerfielder. So, probably 30 years from now
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
ha
I just got that weird idea in my head too.
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
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C’mon.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Ha. Thanks. Can’t wait to see what the Dodgers get me next year.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Happy birthday!!
best birthday present ever :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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You’re getting a 2 time CY Young award winner that builds schools in Africa signed to a 7 year extension.
Enjoy
There’s nothing that a 100 men or more could ever do
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Congrat’s hope you see a few more.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
birthdays, Vegasblue is our donor in waiting. Hoping for the best
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
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I’m gonna be so unhappy when we beat LSU in 2 weeks and don’t get to play in the SEC Championship game.
I am so “War Eagle” right now it’s pathetic.
I’m rooting hard for Arkansas to beat LSU in a few weeks. Can Arkansas play defense at all though? Didn’t they give up 50 at home to Alabama? That doesn’t bode well for a game in Baton Rouge.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Which is what Saban might run up on my Tigers in two weeks. But Wrgl!
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
An Auburn fan
Me too buddy, something is wrong with this team. The secondary never turns on the ball, the d-line gets manhandled by everybody, there are never any midgame defensive adjustments, both qbs aren’t SEC caliber, most of the wideouts can’t get separation, the linebackers get dragged ten yards. Outside of the kickers,the running backs, Emory Blake and sometimes Kiehl Frazier they pretty much suck.
I hate to say it but the Tide with their toothless, inbred meth freak fan base will probably open up a can of whoopass on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
by preacher roe on Nov 14, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Tebow!
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Zach Lee.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Mitch Mustain!
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly. And a nothing in the Pac-10/12.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Because I have a Arkansas t-shirt, I would be okay with Arkansas sneaking into the national championship game. Need to beat LSU and have Alabama lose the Iron Bowl. I already decided USC is beating Oregon this weekend and Oklahoma will beat OkSt.
Arkansas vs. Houston for the National Championshp Game. Southwest Conferece, FTMFW!
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck the hogs, I’m over them after that bullshit last year. I can’t even remember what happened but I know it involved a fumble and I know I was pissed.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Ha!
That would be awesome. The computers and polls don’t really like Arkansas at all. I can’t figure out how we can’t get ahead of OU who lost at home to TT.
what the hell happened to TT after that game?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I am SO for Arkansas hog stompin’ LSU and creating a little BCS chaos.
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Our offense is playing well right now. We usually play well in Baton Rouge. The last time we played them there when they were #1 we beat em and LSU still won the National Championship.
No, that was Stanford to Oregon.
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I wonder if Matt’s gonna buy that Rawlings leather briefcase?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 10:02 AM PST reply actions
he should commission a statue of a robot made of nails with that kind of $$$
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Maybe the Fans of Robots Made of Nails
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I am almost 10 years older
than Mike Matheny, the new manager of the Cardinals.
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big fucking deal
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Used to be the players were old and the managers ancient, then the players were contemporaries and the managers old, then the players young and the managers contemporaries. Now the managers being contemporaries is eroding.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Hope Matheny lasts as long as the Diamondback wet nurse did.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Shut up, you.
/Josie
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
According to Molly Knight on twitter
Kemp and McCourt have a good relationship, are fond of each other.
Is it irony if Frank McCourt’s parting gift to LA really is a long-term contract for The Bison?
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Don’t go Frank, don’t go
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Before I hit you with that big ass rock.
by Tripon on Nov 14, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Frank’s hail mary pass not to a have total shit legacy
it would work, we would forever speak of the signing fondly there
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Until June at least
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
I’m wary of Frank still trying to get the Dodgers TV rights sold. He does that, he doesn’t need to sell the team, and we’re right back where we’re started.
he’s already agreed to the sale. It sounds like he’s still trying to get money upfront is all. Maybe $160mil or so?
Koufax
is a little asshole. Even Bodhi doesn’t want to mess with him anymore.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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currently he’s being sweet and just sitting on my lap. but his eyes are full of murder.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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NOW HE IS EATING PAPER TOWELS
ARGH
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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yeah, but they clean out his colon as they come out the other side
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
My dog ate a piece of towel and a bit of a nylon. They wound together and got stuck in her duodenum, sawing away at her intestinal walls. This led to surgery and the removal of a couple feet of small intestine. Stupid dog.
She is our last surviving pet. 14 and still spry.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Our puppy is eating and chewing everything. I’ve already started up a new vet bill saving account for the inevitable disaster. Termite would have been a better name then Hurricane Katrina.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Was watching a thing on National Geographic about traditional/alternative medicine in other countries. In India, this Yogi makes people swallow 6 1/2 feet of gauze then pull it back out to absorb what ails ya in your guts.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
coincidence
in fancy french whorehouses they call that “The Tickler”
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
That's weird!
When my cats were kittens they always preferred toilet paper. ;)
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Dirty Deeds Done Cheap
Right Cross will put them to sleep
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Cat calming chews/treats definitely has made my life easier at times
I would invest!
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Link?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
This is one
http://www.petco.com/product/106530/Pet-Naturals-Calming-Cat-Soft-Chews.aspx
and this is another
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=cat+calming+chews&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8706255954502200047&sa=X&ei=63jBTubYOKSZiQKt59W7Aw&ved=0CHcQ8wIwAg
we’ve tried ‘em both, whatever your cat seems to like to eat. 1-2 chews and they’re sleepier within an hour.
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Feline ritalin? ;-) (didn’t follow the links)
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
hah no most of them are just natural sedatives
they have tryptophan and chamomile in them. All they need is pumpkin pie flavor added and that’s my thanksgiving aftermath right there!
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Stoned cats sleep a lot
Just sayin’
don’t look at me like that
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Product name is
Fists of Eric.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
better than chewing on ANYTHING plastic at all hours of the night
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A weekend with Eric should straighten him out
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
"My Kitten's Weekend With Eric"
and other terrible movie pitches.
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I thought you had to be laid off to file unemployment. Technically, the players are still under contract.
MEDIA ADVISORY
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MATT KEMP AND FRANK MCCOURT TO ATTEND DODGERS DREAM FOUNDATION AND LA84 FOUNDATION UNVEILING OF NEW DODGERS DREAMFIELD TODAY
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WHAT: The Dodgers Dream Foundation, along with Dodger Center Fielder Matt Kemp and Dodger Owner and Chairman Frank McCourt, in partnership with the LA84 Foundation and the County of Los Angeles Department of Parks and Recreation, will unveil a new Dodgers Dreamfield at Mona Park in Compton. Following the dedication, Martin Luther King Jr. Elementary School students will participate in a clinic led by Dodger alumni.
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WHO: Dodger Center Fielder Matt Kemp
Dodger Owner and Chairman Frank McCourt
Howard Sunkin, Senior Vice President, Los Angeles Dodgers
Mark Ridley-Thomas, Supervisor, Second District
Anita L. DeFrantz, President, LA84 Foundation
Russ Guiney, Director, County of Los Angeles, Department of Parks and Recreation
Compton native Kenny Landreaux, "Sweet" Lou Johnson, Dennis Powell and Derrel Thomas, Dodger alumni
WHEN: Monday, November 14
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1:00 p.m.
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WHERE: Dodgers Dreamfield at Mona Park
2291 East 121st Street
Compton, CA 90222
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Media may park in the Mona Park parking lot or on the street.
MISC: Last summer, the Dodgers Dream Foundation and the LA84 Foundation committed to creating nine new Dodgers Dreamfields in the greater Los Angeles area, increasing the number of Dreamfields to 19. The 20th Dodger Dreamfield will be built in Oro Valley, Arizona in memory of Christina-Taylor Green.
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I always liked Derrel Thomas
He just seemed like a ballplayer who got the most out of his abilities and was willing to play anywhere.
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by Greg Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
i played for him on a couple teams. Coolest MF alive. he and Rudy Law coach a lot of teams together, and they’re a riot if they’re within shouting distance of each other.
Thomas was listed at 6’, 160 back in the day. Saw him up close once and thought he was 5’10", 150.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
SMF
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
That's awesome
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll bet Derrel Thomas still hates Dave Parker.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
he was fun to root for
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Played many positions, switch-hitter, basket catches. Yup.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Last player to utilize the basket catch?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I have a memory of D Thomas with red hair
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve still got a few of those old ’76 station prints. Vin is one of them.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Cool
The 20th Dodger Dreamfield will be built in Oro Valley, Arizona in memory of Christina-Taylor Green.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dennis Powell – come on, that is like having Matt Luke come to talk to a bunch of Dodger Thoughts picnickers.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Luke had more positive Dodgers memories than Powell. And he went to Cal. :)
Was the trade Dennis Powell and Steve Yeager for Matt Young?
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Matt Watters and Powell
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Yeager was traded for Ed Vande Berg.
Somebody named Mike Watters went with Powell.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Good off-season...
Just got better. If the Dodgers do nothing else, I’ll be happy.
Here’s hoping they try to improve elsewhere, though.
by FeelinKindaBlue on Nov 14, 2011 10:29 AM PST reply actions
I agree, locking up Kemp was my only goal this offseason with ownership in flux. Christmas came early in LA. Now come opening day we should have a new owner, and one of the best players in baseball locked in LA for the next 8 years. Santa, if its not asking too much, can Raiders make playoffs too? and bring the NBA by christmas? oh and 2 dogs so I can name them Kemp and Kobe, thanks!
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good luck getting the toy away from him.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Hide your relievers, hide your shortstops, hide your first basemen, the Marlins are after everybody.
Offered deal to Madson.
I remember someone saying they would not be players this offseason
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Ned’s not gonna take that lying down!
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 14, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
This made me laugh though it may just be not quite clear in the writing
@BillShaikin
Heard that #Angels called to express interest in Rod Barajas after he had committed to Pirates.
Way to move on that!
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Damn – Mike Watters three year so AAA ball starting at age 22 never saw one major league game. Bet that does not happen often.
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Way past the age of 22 for starting his AAA career.
Just saying you don’t see guys 22 make it to AAA playing full time and never ever get one single major league at bat.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
missed the 22 part.
What bout the guys like Dedeaux’s kid who got drafted out of college as a non-prospect and sent straight to AAA to be a filler?
full time
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
If Frank is auctioning off the team, whats stopping him from signing every great player he can find? He’s not going to be responsible for their salaries. So why not do it?
I know you’re joking, but if the Angels can support a $140 million payroll, no reason why the Dodgers can’t. The same factors affecting the Dodgers (potential revenue, tv viewership, population) are the same factors affecting the Angels.
wait, the Angels have a 140 million payroll?
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
dam so now I want to spend 150-160 annually
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Still has to have his bankruptcy plan approved by the court.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
and saddling the team with cost, even if those are some good players, doesn’t necessarily increase the value
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 14, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
His payroll needs to be right-sized to maximize the sale price, that’s why.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Shocking
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Did the Cubs massive payroll
give much problems when they were sold?
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 14, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Shocking
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
to me
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 14, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Ogando not eligible.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think anyone actually expected Trumbo to have a real shot
But I would have had Pineda above him, though not Ackley and Jennings (not to mention Lawrie) because they only played half the season or less. Nova was someone that seemed like they could have snuck in with all those wins.
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where is this info, I see nothing. Ive checked 5 sites already haha
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Fisher says reps and players unanimously decided to turn down NBA’s offer
-Marc Spears
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
fuckin Fisher, dumb ass, you’re not getting better!
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
How come the sorry ass players are the player reps? fuck them, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc need to be running that shit. Nobody cares about the little people anyways, they get what they get.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Honest answer, the union is comprised of rank and file guys. Stars make a small portion of the union and the economics for the stars is very different than the normal union guy (endoresements, shit like that.)
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
You should target your anger to the owners who are the ones torpedoing the season by lowballing the players.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I read somewhere where the NBA owners said if they dont take that offer, they are going to go back to the original goal of the NBA owners getting 53% and players 47%
Other news, the union is decertyfing. As Eric said, season is done.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Does anyone think the players will get better deal then this?? This sucks… Thank god I bought all these video games, there wont be shit to watch from end of Jan til April, way to go greedy fucks!
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
No, college basketball IMO sucks balls, too much passing, crowd makes too much noise, and I just dont like it, it doesnt excite me. The Tournament does though, I do watch that, but thats it. Regular season is meaningless IMO for the most part, so it doesnt have the intensity college football has, but thats me.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
So that time frame I gave is basically from the Super Bowl, until MLB regular season stats. So basically 2 months with no sports… oh but I do have the Kings too, thats right, but its not the same.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Crowd makes too much noise?
And you like the NBA but complain about another sport’s regular season being meaningless?
/confused
These confused me as well.
I didn’t know it was possible for crowds to make too much noise. Those are the best games to be at.
I’m gonna go to some of the games this season at The Pit. Top-five basketball arena in the country, probably the best west of the Mississippi.
And it was the scene of one of the most iconic basketball images of all time, Jim Valvano running around in 1983, looking for someone to hug.
I’ve seen a few UNLV / UNM games in Vegas and the UNM fans show up in force there too. I’ve seen their games on tv plenty of times and I think it would be tons of fun to see in person.
I read that as “it would be tons of fun to see in prison” and was very confused for a second.
Yeah, UNM basketball fans travel well, especially to the MWC tournament (I always mean to go, but never do. Maybe this year).
This year, they have a pretty good chance to be legitimately good.
And, man, The Pit during a late-season conference basketball game is probably the loudest place I have ever been.
haha its hard to explain, but its like that OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh chant all game, hard to decribe, but its like shut up, cheer for good stuff, boo at bad stuff, but I dont need to hear OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO all dam game long.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
haha, forget what I said because that came across ignorant, but what else is new right? Lets just leave it at im not a fan of the college basketball game, I just dont like it. Even when USC has had some good years, I didnt follow much during regular season, its just not exciting to me. But I do start caring and watching around Pac 10 (Now Pac 12) tournament, and ofcourse the NCAA tournament, but thats it.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
The shot clock is way too long too. They can reset like 5 times. It pisses me off.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
college is ok
but the shooters are worse and the game is much slower thanks to the longer shot clock.
Some of us can remember when the NCAA had no shot clock.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Only Marty can remember when the NBA had no shot clock.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Four corner offenses were lovely. Kind of like when Ali boxed that sumo wrestler who laid down on the floor and tried to kick Ali in the nads the whole time.
sumo?
Antonio Inoki was no Sumo sir.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Yes.
Again, you should consider whether or not it is the billionaire owners who are the true “greedy fucks”.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah Im not saying owners are innocent but its their league, they own it. I think this was best deal players were going to get and lets face it, what else are they going to do?? There lucky they even get to do this shit for a living, now they can go work a regular job, see how much they like that shit.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
don't worry about it
The Super Bowl is February 5, 2012 then pitchers and catchers report approximately 10 days later. Read a book, go on a hike, spend some time with the family.
I love my Lakers, but I’m on the owners side 100%. As much as I love Kobe, Pau, Lamar, Bynum, et al., I love the Lakers first. Players come and go, and it really rubs me the wrong way that the players think they’re above the team and the league. I wouldn’t care if the Lakers completely scrubbed the roster, as long as Kobe and Company aren’t on another team beating the Lakers.
I rarely, if never, take the billionaires’ side over the millionaires’. Usually it is the folks with more money screwing the people with less, even if the people with less have a lot.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
You're right
The billionaires are screwing the millionaires, and they’re both screwing the fans; however, those are their lots in life. The owners made their money in business, and the players made their money in the gym. NBA players love to wax intelligent about the NBA being a business, well, screwing people for profit is business. If the players wanted to call shots like the owners, they should’ve chosen a different career path.
by ishXdavid on Nov 14, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Collective bargaining allows labor to have a say in calling the shots. If he who has the most money calls all the shots, the words for that are “lords, serfs, fiefdoms”.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Its not Kobe, he’d agree right now. If NBA starts a league without the NBA players Kobe would cross that line so fast. What sucks is IMO this all has nothing to do with Lakers (outside of Fisher being the player president) because they are a big market team, were not losing money, is the other little people cities crying about being broke.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
the other little people cities crying about being broke
which would be the owners.
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Who are still owners! Dude, it is the owners who are you are now blaming for the problem. So is it the owners or the players?
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And filing an anti-trust action against the NBA. Getting uglier.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Duhon, tweeted yes this morning, so it wasnt unanimous.
by uschris0304 on Nov 14, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Everyone is going to be so pissed
when they don’t announce the signing today
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Gordon’s tweet reassured me that its all good.
If it was just Rosenthal reporting this, i wouldnt be that confident
The fact that Kemp is going to the field opening is too perfect of a PR oppurtunity to miss.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
x
Back to the Isotopes post, Brandon mentioned that Tim Sexton had one abysmal game this year. Here is the write-up that Brandon had.
Lightening caused this game to finish early, which was probably a good thing for the Isotopes as they were getting shellacked by the Zephyrs (Marlins) 17 to 9. Starter Tim Sexton amazingly stayed in long enough to give up 16 runs on 17 hits, which has got to be close to the PCL record. Sexton had held his own when he first got promoted to AAA, but over his past 8 starts he’s been getting mostly crushed. The good news is that even though the pitching was terrible, the Albuquerque offense did some damage themselves. Dee Gordon continued his torrid hitting with 3 more hits, while Jerry Sands hit his 17th AAA homer of the season. Catcher Damaso Espino also took one deep, as did Russ Mitchell who ended the night with 4 RBI’s.The Albuquerque Journal reported why Sexton was left in so long:
A derisive cheer arose from those in attendance when the 24-year-old was mercifully lifted in the sixth. Sexton departed with the club record for most earned runs allowed, easily besting the previous mark of 12 allowed by Kenny Baugh in 2007.
"Basically we had three innings," said Bundy of the availability of his relievers. "One from (Troncoso), one from (Travis Schlichting) and one from (Jon Link). We went in short, and unfortunately Sexton had a rough time of it. It’s just really bad for a manager and bad for a pitching coach when you have to leave a guy out there. To his credit, he stepped up and continued to battle."Thankfully, I did not attend that game.
In light of the child sex-abuse scandal at Penn State, Joe Paterno’s name has been removed from the new Big Ten championship trophy, the conference announced Monday.
Huh? Why was his name on the trophy in the first place?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I know that. Is it called the Joe Paterno Trophy? Because that is odd for an active coach. If it’s not named after him, why is his name on it at all?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
its odd for an active coach to have been coaching for 50 years
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It was the Legends and Heroes trophy. Before this whole mess started, you could have called him either.
Heyman reporting Kemp deal is done pending a physical
A physical needed for your own player?
Whatever. Woohoo!
They almost always do one on any multi-year deal.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Heyman also reporting full no trade clause for Kemp.
-info coming from his twitter feed
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Geh. I feel like the NTR is worth something, and if you’re going to give that, it should come with a discount. on salary But, whatever.
Seems like they get there via 10/5 a lot of the time
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe it did.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I can easily imagine something like:
Stewart: We want 8/160 with no-trade
Ned: No no-trade
Stewart: Then 8/180
Ned: Tell me more about this no-trade
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Nov 14, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't that how they found out
Magic had HIV?
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by Greg Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
It was a physical for a life insurance policy.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
and that one nfl dude who had a potentially life threatening brain tumor
when he was traded at the deadline
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 14, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Happy dance
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one who's a little nervous about this contract?
Eight-year contracts can turn into albatrosses. As much as I love Kemp, he’s had exactly ONE season as an elite-level player, and he had a lousy season as recently as last year. This is basically the same exact contract the Red Sox gave to Manny in 2001. If Kemp performs like Manny did for the Sox, then it’ll be worth every penny. But Manny was coming off of six straight seasons with an OPS+ of 144 or higher for Cleveland. Kemp has reached that level only once in his career.
I honestly think this contract has about a 50-50 chance of being a good one or a bad one, and it’s not like the Dodgers are getting any kind of discount here, especially if it comes with a no-trade clause.
No time to scan this thread this morning
But if no one brought this up., I wonder how Andre feels.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 14, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
I believe Eric's comment in the last thread was something like
At the least we get angry and motivated Ethier in his contract year.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
This is basically the same exact contract the Red Sox gave to Manny in 2001
Ten years ago. Prices have changed. And sure there’s risk. That’s always a part of it – there are no sure things.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
1 elite, sure
1 great year, 1 good year, 1 good but short year, and 1 bad year. Luckily, except for the bad year, each year he’s gotten better. It’s a little risky giving 8 years to anyone, but at least Kemp is on the uptick
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And given that Kemp was really still refining his baseball skills during his first few seasons, perhaps he is just now starting to put it all together.
And it is for his age 27-34 seasons. Not like ARod’s last extension, or what Pujols is going to sign for. Or even Werth’s deal last offseason.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Manny Ramirez: 8 years, $160 million
Matt Kemp: 8 years, $160 million
Can’t wait for the Matty Dreadlocks.
Fly Matt Kemp suits. (Is fly still a thing?)
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Heyman was the one who said it was done pending physical.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 14, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
“Now Mr. Kemp, I need you cough”
“shouldn’t you be wearing a gl…”
“Silence! I need to concentrate.”
by Josie Becker on Nov 14, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I fear that Matt Kemp dsrobing in from of you would make you go all Raiders of the Lost Arc Captain Melty Face
that’s the risk you take when you look at the face of god
by Josie Becker on Nov 14, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Unless
they have called an all out press conference, I would think at best you would hear is a strong no comment from a smiling Matt Kemp.
This is the kind of deal that would have to get that kind of coverage.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 14, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Kemp is about to be so rich...
…that he can hire Larry Bowa to put a trash can in front of Jeff Kent’s front door, every day of the week.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:05 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Haha!
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Even more awesome news
Now other teams fans can shut up about trading for him because the Dodgers are broke!
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Reds fans particularly had a boner for Kemp trades.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 14, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
When does Joey Votto become a Yankee or Red Sox? ;-)
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
If you are in Compton
I strongly recommend JayBees BBQ on Avalon. Probably my favorite BBQ place in SoCal
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Don't know how that posted
but was supposed to say now lets just get Kemp’s homeboy, Prince.
Don’t think we are allowed to break 2012 budget. Since Kemp’s deal does nothing of the sort, it was acceptable.
by silverwidow on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Without checking
I would guess, Manny and A-Rod (first deal with Texas) pretty much did great in terms of production on their deal. Other than that…
Basically, it is a good deal if the Dodgers get the 2010 version of Mark Ellis and a bad deal if the Dodgers get the 2011 version of Mark Ellis.
2008 or 2010
since ellis is on the every other plan, its brilliant! Until 2013 then we’ll hate him
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I like Ellis
always have but wth? 2 year deal for someone who posted a OBP of .288 last season
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 14, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
The catch is
He has to get it from Kemp’s couch.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It finally happened
You knew this day would come
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
he’s a good glove guy right?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Good glove, good range, no bat.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
can he bunt?
/number2hitter
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
He’s been a number 2 hitter much of his career. Ranked high in sacrifice hits early in his career.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
plus 60 UZR in his career, and he's averaged about plus 5 the last 3 years.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1443&position=2B
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The only way this would be good is if we do end up with Fielder, otherwise, this offense is going to be dreadful again.
Salary dump Ethier, sign Fielder
Might not make a huge difference for 2012, but will be much better for our future.
I was thinking
Jose Valentin. Could be something, but is too old and gets injured.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
they can’t let us be happy for one day?
by eitherethier on Nov 14, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Good news in my mind
His defense is great. The last 3 years his UZR is 1.5, 9.9, and 5.9. I’m loving this signing if we can get him.
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Billyum is going to be so pissed when the press conference is to announce the signing of Mark Ellis and Aaron Rowand
that would be funny, I hope he has TBLA moblie app
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
well there was supposed to be a :) after that
it’s been a long day already…
by eitherethier on Nov 14, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, the highs and lows of having NedCo GM your team.
All in the span of 90 minutes today!
I kinda agree with Jaffe here (though I used to like Ellis)
@jay_jaffe Jay Jaffe
Stupid Flanders. I’d MUCH rather have Jamey Carroll at 2/$7M than Mark Ellis at 2/$9M
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I wouldn’t mind giving up a pick for Kelly Johnson right about now
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 14, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
we have this Uribe
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
except for his salary
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
@djshort:
Guys, Ned Colletti has to give Ellis $4.5M/yr. Some knucklehead already set the market for roughly 1 WAR players with the Juan Rivera deal.
Nice. Mark Ellis 2011 – 0.9 rWAR, 1.3 fWAR.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
That's what people seem to be missing here
I realize we all want someone who can hit, but there are almost no 2B out there who really can who are anywhere near available. Let’s get the guy who can field well and go from there.
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0.1, 0.8 last year.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Only Mark Ellis is a normal sized human being. (Barely).
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
No, you’d also need him to trade a good prospect.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I DVR the UFC match on Fox Sat, and the match doesn't even start until the 40th min.
Who told the UFC that people wanted to watch an infomercial? You couldn’t get a couple of undercard matches?
It was. And watching it on my laptop wasn’t that bad. Would have been nice to watch it out my big HD TV, but whatever.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Dana White's explanation
was that he wanted to introduce the fighters to the mainstream audience who don’t know them or MMA.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
chairshots are a quick explanation
but I don’t think the UFC want’s their fighters damaged before a fight like that
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Which is a very Fox thing. They did the same thing with their Champion’s League (soccer) coverage, right after ESPN got all sorts of kudos for their presentation of the World Cup (soccer) where ESPN basically assumed people watching are smart enough to figure it out.
nope
they only had 2 hours to fit it in. They went direct from airtime to green light every time. no run-up.
the one time I watched it they had some stupid intro
maybe they removed it
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It was actually Fox’s call. Even if White wanted to put on the Guida vs. Henderson fight he couldn’t.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Which seems so dumb, it’ll be like only showing the 9th inning and just telling the backgrounds of Ron Washington for the first three hours.
Also, as White pointed out, this was a bonus broadcast and the Fox contract hadn’t started yet. So they figured throwing in a bonus fight (JDS vs. Cain) was a good way to “kickoff” the partnership.
by Michael White on Nov 14, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
my guess
his jersey number, Clemens did it too
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 14, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
It's his uni number
so, pointless.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
You know in a system where the only time you find true value in a deal
is either players who can perform in their first 4 years of MLB service time or a player who is coming off a bad year and gets a make good deal, I am not sure if any FA deal that is not under those conditions is really at good value.
matt kemp
anyone scared he might pull a vernon… any similarities between them two? They were both coming off Amazing years after a sub par year when they both signed their huge deals.. and of course both centerfielders…. looks similar to me.. lets hope kemp doesnt become vernon..
Wells never had Kemps speed
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 14, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
the only thing I am worried about is Kemp’s defense, if he moves to RF, cool beans
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 14, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
come on eric
they are both coming off career years.. thats already one
by matthewmafa on Nov 14, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Well there's the answer to the question: One person is worried! ;)
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Wells never had a year like Kemp's 2011
It crossed my mind, but it’s not worrying me
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Didn’t realize Ellis was a Type B. Bye supplemental pick.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions
As the Texas governor said, “oops.”
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 14, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Wrong. You only lose a pick for signing a Type A. Other teams get a supplemental if their type B is signed.
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I don't hate this signing
but I certainly don’t like it
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Wouldn’t Ramon Santiago have been cheaper and likely better? Just looking at Ellis’ stats, he sucks.
Mark Ellis at least has hit, career 94 OPS+. Ramon Santiago is at 78.
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
84, 81, 89 the last three years looks like treading water at the plate. SSS, but almost 1000 PAs overall. And I assume there’s a reason he’s still a part-time player while the Tigers seemed to have lots of 2B questions. (This is mainly coming out of my ass – I don’t know anything about the guy.)
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by David Young on Nov 14, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Ken_Rosenthal
Confirming Ellis signing with #Dodgers. Two years, $8.75M. First reported by @Buster_ESPN. #mlb
So for some reason I get both the NFL HD, and NBA HD, and VS HD now. Not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Assistant GM in arge of Ellisi: Ellis Burks.
by G.Scott on Nov 14, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
wow
for us to even be a .500 team, kemp would need another mvp season and kershaw another cy young season…. and we might be .500!
by matthewmafa on Nov 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
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