Dodgers Cy Young Award History: The Runner-Ups
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 6:00 AM PST
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The National League Cy Young Award will get announced at 11 a.m. PST today, and we will find out whether or not Clayton Kershaw takes home top honors. A lot has been written through the years about the Dodgers who have won the Cy Young Award — Don Newcombe (1956), Don Drysdale (1962), Sandy Koufax (1963, 1965, 1966), Mike Marshall (1974), Fernando Valenzuela (1981), Orel Hershiser (1988), and Eric Gagne (2003) — but not much has been said about those who have come up just short.
Here is a look at the Dodgers who finished second in the Cy Young balloting.
Sal Maglie, 1956
This was the very first year of the Cy Young Award, and there was only one award for all the major leagues. Don Newcombe won this award with 27 wins and a 3.06 ERA for the pennant-winning Dodgers, and his teammate Maglie finished second.
Maglie was a long-time Giant and might have won the Cy Young Award had there been one in 1952 (he finished fourth in NL MVP voting, the highest pitcher on the ballot). In 1956, Maglie was 39 years old and was purchased from the Cleveland Indians in May. Maglie with the Dodgers went 13-5 with a 2.87 ERA and pitched a no-hitter in his second-to-last start of the season, against the Philadelphia Phillies, while the Dodgers were in the middle of a tight pennant race with both the Milwaukee Braves and Cincinnati Reds.
Andy Messersmith, 1974
Messersmith was awesome atop the rotation in 1974, going 20-6 with a 2.59 ERA in 39 starts for the pennant-winning Dodgers. But he lost the award to a teammate, as super reliever Mike Marshall set records by pitching 106 games in relief and 208 innings giving the Dodgers a unique weapon out of the bullpen.
The Dodgers had three of the top four finishers, with Marshall receiving 17 first-place votes, Messersmith getting five, and Don Sutton getting one.
Tommy John, 1977
In just his second season back from an elbow surgical procedure that would bear his name, John was 20-7 with a 2.78 ERA in 31 starts for the Dodgers. Through his age-33 season John had 134 career wins, and beginning with 1977 he would win 154 games from age 34 through the end of his career.
Steve Carlton was 23-10 for the division winning Phillies and got 17 of 24 first-place votes to win the trophy. But John pitched a complete game to eliminate Carlton and the Phillies in Game 4 of the National League Championship Series to send the Dodgers to the World Series.
Burt Hooton, 1978
Hooton won 19 games with a 2.71 ERA for the pennant-winning Dodgers, and went 12-3 with a 2.12 ERA over his final 16 starts of the season. Gaylord Perry of the San Diego Padres won the award with 21 wins, garnering 22 of 24 first-place votes and becoming the first player to win a Cy Young Award in each league, having already won the award in 1972 with the Cleveland Indians.
Hooton didn't receive any first-place votes, but he easily finished second thanks to 10 second-place votes and eight third-place votes.
Jerry Reuss, 1980
The Dodgers traded Rick Rhoden to the Pittsburgh Pirates in April 1979 for Reuss, substantially worsening the clubhouse handicap but improving the pitching staff. The 31-year old Reuss went 18-6 with a 2.51 ERA and tied for the major league lead with six shutouts. In five June starts, Reuss allowed four runs in 44 innings, capped off by a no-hitter at Candlestick Park against the hated San Francisco Giants.
In the final weekend of the regular season, the Dodgers swept the Houston Astros at Dodger Stadium to force a one-game playoff (that the Dodgers would lose). Reuss pitched the Saturday game of that final weekend, allowing one run in nine innings and outdueling Nolan Ryan in a 2-1 Dodgers win.
Steve Carlton won the award easily, capturing 23 of 24 first-place votes (the other first-place vote went to Reuss), as he led the majors in innings (304) and strikeouts (286). Carlton was second in ERA (2.34) to a Dodgers pitcher, but it wasn't Reuss. Don Sutton led MLB with a 2.20 ERA in 1980, but his 13-5 record and 13 no-decisions meant not even a single third-place vote for Sutton.
Fernando Valenzuela, 1986
Valenzuela had a 3.14 ERA, led the National League with 21 wins and led the majors with 20 complete games. He made the All-Star team for the sixth season in a row. But Valenzuela lost the award in a close vote to Mike Scott of the Houston Astros, who went 18-12 and led the majors in ERA (2.22), innings pitched (275), and strikeouts (306). To top things off, Scott clinched the NL West division for the Astros with a no-hitter.
Scott received 15 first-place votes, seven second-place votes, and two third-place votes for 98 points, out-polling Valenzuela, who received nine first-place votes, 14 second-place votes, and one third-place votes. Points were awarded on a 5-3-1 basis in those days. Scott and Valenzuela were the only two pitchers to appear on all 24 ballots.
"I don't think he enjoyed the news, but he took it calmly and matter of factly," Valenzuela's agent Tony DeMarco told Ross Newhan of the Los Angeles Times. "I personally thought Fernando would win, but our attitude is that he will have a long career and many chances to win."
Ramon Martinez, 1990
Martinez had shown flashes of brilliance in his brief appearances with the Dodgers in 1988 and by midseason 1989 he was in the rotation to stay. Through six starts, the 22-year old Martinez was 2-2 with a 4.63 ERA, but then began to settle in. Over his final 27 starts of the season, Martinez was 18-4 with a 2.62 ERA, highlighted by an 18-strikeout performance against the Atlanta Braves on June 4. At 20-6, Martinez was the last 20-game winner for the Dodgers before Kershaw this season.
Doug Drabek was 22-6 with a 2.76 ERA for the Pittsburgh Pirates, the team with the best record in the National League. Drabek captured 23 of 24 first place votes to easily win the award, but Martinez picked up the other first place tally.
Clayton Kershaw will likely become the eighth Dodger to join one of these clubs later today. Will he finish in first or second place, or lower?
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CK will finish 1st!
Those Dodger teams in the late 70s early 80s must have been fun to watch.
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by BetterDeadThanRed on Nov 17, 2011 6:48 AM PST reply actions
Mid 70s too!
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by David Young on Nov 17, 2011 9:36 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nice
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by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
Prospect Number Two Voting totals so far
With the Cy Young coming your way today I don’t think we will be voting today so here is the tally so far:
Webster 28
Eovaldi 20
Gould 9
Reed 4
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I put a note in the voting thread that I've declared Webster the #2 prospect
I thought about giving the #3 prospect straight to Eovaldi, but with Gould getting 9 votes we’ll instead simply contine the voting tomorrow
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 17, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Al Campanis was such a boss
Andy Messersmith acquired in a trade
Burt Hooten acquired in a trade
Tommy John acquired in a trade
Jerry Ruess acquired in a trade
The man has never been properly given credit as that tough ending to his career.
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He had the capacity to make good trades.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Trades were his bred and butter.
Oh wait, that was Jimmy the Greek. Damn you, late 1980s racist TV interviews!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
Am I correct in remembering that Halladay pitched REALLY well against shitty teas and really average against good teams?
Clayton owned the Giants, I don’t think anyone is going to argue they were an offensive force.
Offense would have to be the only denominator involved in this wouldn’t it? not record?
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He did have the advantage of not having to face the Phillies.
Halladay vs. sub .500 teams: 2.00 ERA, Kershaw: 2.67
Now I don’t know if pitching almost a run worse against bad teams is actually a good thing.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
Sure, but is pitching better against good teams better than pitching against bad teams? Especially since this can easily turn into “none of Kershaws games were important”
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
If you are going that route, you would also have to note the number of games against each.
Kershaw: 18 games against .500 or better, 15 games against losing teams
Halladay: 10 games against .500 or better, 22 games against losing teams
Not that all .500+ teams are created equal, but Kershaw pitched a lot more games against winning teams.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
And then if you break it down further the “winning team” Kershaw pitched against the most was the Giants.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
and if anyone tries to argue that wasn’t really a “winning tea”, they can look at the guy he was pitching againt and whathe final scores were.
Or someone could look at the wOBA for each team instead of winning %.
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Baseball Prospectus has quality of opponents faced…
Halladay faced slightly tougher opposing hitters, after park factors are factored in.
Halladay’s opponents RPA+ (sort of their equivalent to OPS+ or wRC+) was 106, Kershaw 105.
So really similar, just like most of their stats.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
Sure
I wouldn’t even be mad if Halladay won.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
I mean, I would punch a kitten or three….
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
same ol same ol
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Dodgers were expected (via Vegas odds) to have a 0.5403 win percentage in games Kershaw started. The Dodgers played 0.697 ball when Kershaw started. The Phillies were expected to have a 0.6451 win percentage in games in which Halladay started. The Phillies played 0.750 ball in those games.
No conclusion, just throwing out some numbers.
Who did Roger Clemens take into the showers in 1997 for him to be the only player to win the pitching triple crown and not win unanimously? And for him to not get 3 votes?
was he Ted Williams-esque to the writers?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
Setting us up for failure?
j/k
Looks like the Phillies blog could care less about this upcoming award. Well, maybe they care but no blog posts discussing it. This week unfortunately, is the highlight of our 2011 season.
In Pitt was it not? Huge win?
Did CSULB not lose any key players from last years team?
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Pitt had won 58 straight home games against non-conference opponents.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
It would be kind of awesome if CSULB was the power house bball team in Los Angeles this year.
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I said it yesterday and I'll say it again
LBSU and UCSB will both be super dangerous this year and the BW runner up will deserve an at large bid this time. And both are better and deeper than other southland teams right now.
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Next Tuesday
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by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
heh, I forgot about that one.
How’s Portland look this year? Solid, if i recall…
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Started out 2-1 with the 1 being a 30 point ass kicking at UW. Team not as good as in the past two years (I don’t think) but won’t be terrible like they were when I went to school there.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Hm cool
UCSB plays SDSU a few days later so they could possibly be caught looking past Portland (though I doubt it).
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Portland’s upcoming schedule. After a loss at UW, home against WSU, at UCSB and then at Kentucky. This is going to be challenging.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Joey Joe said he thought Gonzaga was going to awesome this year, have you seen them play yet?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
LB is the only team in D1
with 4 players with 1000 career points each. very experienced. it is a perfect storm. they lost one starter who hated playing D. and got the best JUCO player in the country in to take his place.
That really is the perfect storm. Should be fun.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
As delias man texted me last night, LBSU should be ranked after this win (and I agree)
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
Ooh, something UCLA could win at.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Luckily for them they do get to play Cal twice.
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It’s amusing how you think this is an insult.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The only thing amusing is Cal Grad’s making fun of anyone’s sports programs.
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Cal has won more NCAA national championships than all but about 10 schools. If you count rugby, Cal is I believe 4th. But, by all means, continue to make these kinds of comments.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by all accounts count rugby. And Water Polo, diving, soccer, lacrosse, wrestling, tiddly winks and any other sport that no one cares about other then those who play it.
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doesn’t that apply to every sport or activity anywhere? I don’t watch cricket but I at least appreciate and acknowledge those who do. C’mon man.
Because every one of UCLA’s 107(?) championships is in football and basketball.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
0 in football.
Michigan and Alabama have >10 in football alone, I believe, and Michigan has also won in basketball.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
How many basketball NCs do they have? 20?
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
How many does the rest of the Pac 20 have combined?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Cal 1, Arizona 1, Stanford 1, Oregon 1, Utah 1. I think that’s it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Would have expected at least two from Arizona. Was Utah’s before they found the Book of Mormon?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Oregon 1939 (the first one!)
Stanford 1942
Utah 1944
Cal 1959
Arizona 1997
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Looks like Utah won the Championship because all the other athletes were fighting a war and not going to college.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Same could be said of Stanford. And Wyoming, which won in 1943.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
In the 30s and 40s, wasn’t the NIT the big tournament, not the NCAA championship? Not sure when that changed.
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by David Young on Nov 17, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
So what is up with that? How many colleges have different names for the different sports? This seems unusual.
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more reflective of their style of play. Hard for a basketball team to be dirtbags since, you know, no dirt.
floorwaxbags
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
that was officially voted the school mascot when the school started
so not a nickname.
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assuming photo was taken in pastures of South America, 1500 miles away from lovely lands of Irvine?
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and shit
Eurasian brown bears are all up in northern eurasia! Cal cheats by being lazy. “Bears”. Could you be more nonspecific?
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But Cal is the Golden Bears, which is more specific, I think.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
extinct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_golden_bear
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Well, our paleontology department is pretty killer, so an extinct animal makes some sense. Also, they weren’t extinct when the university first adopted the name.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’m sure every department at that school is the best in the world
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Josie did say you had to be brilliant to simply get accepted, so the departments must also be brilliant.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
I think I break that rule because they were set to welcome me with open arms.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
if you have less then a straight A average
they reject you out of hand. Actually I think you have to have something like a 4.3 average now just to be looked at
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Still think it is lame
that they go above 4.0. Why not just set the scale to 5.0? Reminds me of that movie where the music goes up to 11.
it rewards kids for taking harder classes
it does cause issues though for kids who go to schools that don’t offer every single AP like mine did. Or you could argue it then causes problems for kids whose school DOES offer every AP because they have to work harder then kids at schools that offer like, 1.
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Thats a big issue. My roommate at UCLA had like a 3.8 GPA in high school, and I was like “how did he get in here.” Turns out he came from a shitty area and his high school had like 2 AP classes total. I got to know, he became one of my best friends, and I still have no clue how he got into UCLA.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
You aren't the first person
to make such allegations to me. Its kinda like the BCS, there is no one truly fair system?
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there cant be. You go by numbers, and a lot of deserving people dont get in. You go holistically, and a lot of deserving people dont get in. I dont know if there is one right way.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
You only get a maximum of 8 semesters of extra GPA points for AP classes, i believe.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
so 4 years?
so all of high school? or do you mean 4 quarters?
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You can take more than one AP class a semester.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
It wasn't the case when I went
but maybe they changed it. I took 7 AP classes I believe and 8 tests
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kind of i guess
I’m not sure how much class rank matters these days
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If cal was so awesome
why did they let their mascot die
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Skin cancer is what happens to Golden Bears.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Come on man, it is an Anteater voted on by the student body. An Anteater, whose noble goal is to stick their snout into a hole full of insects and suck hard. Who the fuck votes for that as your mascot in a brand new school when you live in Southern California with a myriad of choices. The Developers would have been a better choice.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
An Anteater, whose noble goal is to stick their snout into a hole full of insects and suck hard
I have to say, I laughed really hard at this.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
I kinda like the nickname, it's different but I am also not one who could mock anyway
My undergrad alma mater SFSU is nicknamed the “Gators”, not an especially common animal in SF. But the student paper is called the Golden GatEr, which makes more sense. {shrugs}
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I never liked the Anteater nickname until I saw NoLanders image, which immediately sold me.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
I was sold after I saw the anteater at the SF zoo let its baby ride around on her back
earlier this year, which was awesome.
http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_Jay/baby-anteater-sf-zoo.jpg
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such lazy bums
I love it. They do that for the first year of their lives
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Aren’t they simply offering free food to the Eagles as they pick the kids they don’t like off their backs while the kids they do like are protected below?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember when
…. you could count UCLA losses at home at Pauley Pavillion on your hands. Would need to be a milipede to do that now.
like an anteater
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
/zoology’d
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I was wondering if that’s what he was referring to.
The reason more people didn’t notice LBSU beating UCLA is because Portland stomped UCLA by 40 the day before.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Before 1956 Sal the Barber might have won easily won the award for most disliked Giant by Dodger fans
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along that line
who was more disliked by Giant fans? Koufax or Drysdale?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
I’d say Russell Martin was more hated than Blake.
I’m talking about those 50s-60s giant fans
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
The old tale was that Koufax was a comfortable 0 for 4, but Drysdale was a bitch to face because he’d buzz you at a moment’s notice.
My guess would be that Drysdale was more hated.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
trying to remember if this story was against the giants
but I remember reading some umpire told Drysdale if he’d fine him $50 for every player he hit.
Drysdale’s response:
“That’s fine, I have a pocket full of fifties.”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
When Drysdale was announcing for the Dodgers (man, he was good), he would sometimes refer to throwing inside or knocking a guy down, saying the catcher would usually use his thumb for that signal, to “flip” a guy. Then Drysdale would add, “of course they never had to give me that sign.”
Haha.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
nice
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t remember the opponent, but there was one game when an opposing manager (I want to say Herman Franks and the Giants) who told the umpire Drysdale was doctoring the ball because he kept going Brad Penny on his hair. So the umpire comes out to the mound and starts running his hands through Drysdale’s hair, and Big D said, “Aren’t you going to at least buy me dinner first?”
I love Don Drysdale.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
me too
"I hated to bat against Drysdale. After he hit you he’d come around, look at the bruise on your arm and say, ‘Do you want me to sign it?’" – Mickey Mantle
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The Dodgers traded for Maglie to show Drysdale the ropes. Once, Drysdale threw high and tight twice to the same batter. When he got back to the dugout, someone asked him why he threw at the guy twice. Don replied, “Sal told me if you throw at the guy twice, he’ll know the first time wasn’t an accident”.
by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
I think my favorite is the 65 series when Koufax sat out game 1 for Yom Kippur. Drysdale started at the Dodgers lost 8-2. He came in and told Walter Alston, “I bet righ now you wish I was Jewish, too”.
Did you just watch the 65 show or remember that?
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yeah, that's a good one
I also remember reading about him saying something like, “For ever Dodger one of the Giant pitchers knocks down, I’m knocking down two of them. And they won’t be .220 hitters either.”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
had to google to find the exact quote, but
Drysdale talking to the 2011 Giants
“Some of these guys wear beards to make them look intimidating, but they don’t look so tough when they have to deliver the ball. Their abilities and their attitudes don’t back up their beards.”
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by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
I remember some band told me
it wasn’t too far away
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Some ex-girlfriend of a former Dodger told me it was a place on Earth.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Kind of amazing that Koufax only hit 18 people in his whole career
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According to his splits he never once hit a Giant. Not once
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I mean he was the WAL and he still rarely hit anyone.
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Hiroki Kuroda has 18 HBP in his four years.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
Mike MacDougal has hit 25 batters in 388 innings.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
As much as I enjoyed Burt Hooten, the fact he had that great a year still surprises me.
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He was probably better the year before, but had a shload of no decisions and didn’t get a vote.
1977: 223 IP, 2.62 ERA, 147 ERA+, 60 BB, 153 K, 12-7
1978: 236 IP, 2.71 ERA, 130 ERA+, 61 BB, 104 K, 19-10
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll bet he was Happy with it. :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
I did say this last night but hopefully Eric doesn’t mind.
Minor League Central’s leaderboards can now search multiple leagues at the same time. Want to know who lead all of AA in strikeout rate?
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The only thing I mind is that you didn’t add a link to your comment.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
The pimping academy is not teaching the fundamentals anymore.
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no wonder this new generation thinks it ain’t easy
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
link to Bud Light?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Because I didn’t mean to send that off just yet. :)
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
Noticed a bug in my work browser that didn’t show up on my home one, went to fix it.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
why do you have the youngest player leaderboards listed as A, Hi-A, Lo-A, AA, AAA, R? Why not list them in order?
i get that the actual leagues are in alphabetical order, but even still I think you should do alpha by level.
INT
PCL
EAS
SOU
TEX
etc
I might, it would make things easier for me since I sort it like that to get the multiple league selections. I’ll change it when I get home and see if anyone says anything.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
anay for you to make it so when i click “All AA” it checks the AA league boxes or grays them out or something?
I think you’ve seen what happens when you run the site without javascript enabled.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Or in Internet Explorer.
I really need to get a Windows box at home.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Because that’s old code that needs to get updated.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Watched a 1959 DVD that had some amazing stuff.
I may have to write about the playoff game that got the Dodgers into the World Series. Big D started and was hammered and pulled in the fifth. The Dodgers were down 5 – 2 in the bottom of the ninth and scored three runs to send the game into extra innings where they won in the bottom of the 12 on a two out error by the shortstop that allowed the winning run to score.
There was a play early in the game where Norm Larker took out the Brave all-star 2nd baseman Johnny Logan on a DP ball and Logan had to be carted off the field. It looked like one hell of a dirty play. The Brave 2nd baseman had to move to SS and he was the guy who eventually made the error that allowed the Dodgers to win.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
SI_JonHeyman
Among #dodgers pitching options: harang, kuroda, capuano, francis. Have less than $10M to spend
just keep twisting the knife
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
As much as I would like to write “lighten up Francis” or “Francis is having his bath…Oh really? Where are they hosing him down?” all season, I’m not on board the Jeff Francis train.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
HA HA!!
/peeweelaugh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Kuroda
Capuano
Harang
Not even sure Francis is any better then Eveland at this point.
If we don’t get Kuroda can we get Harrang and Capuano for 10 Million?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Isn't Eveland out of options?
I think some team will take a flier in Spring Training if he gets cut.
This is the very reason the word “So?” was invented.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
after Kuroda
a whole lot of “meh” on that list
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
Harang is the only other one I could be okay with but as someone said here yesterday would rather that be as a 5th starter, not 3rd/4th replacing Kuroda.
But at this point, would hope they can bring Hiro back for one more and fill the 5th spot internally.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Cap had a nice bounce back season after the surgery. xERA was 3.64, nice peripherals all around, I’d be more then happy to see him pitch for us.
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Hm not too bad at all, you're right
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/capuach01.shtml
I would be down with that if they can’t re sign Hiro.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
He’s the best second choice on that list, but he reminds me too much of Lilly, all finesse, no power.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
The finesse lefties get the job done and in the end that is important. Chad Billingsley would like to have his K/Rate in combination with that control.
Cap is someone who can put up Buehlre numbers at a fraction of the price. Just the fact Ned is even considering him is a good thing.
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If we don't sign Kuroda
because we signed Rivera and Ellis first…I will be angry…
by eitherethier on Nov 17, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
makes team dinner seating charts difficult to plan?
by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
At least 2/5 of the rotation is gay?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
If USC Chris had said this, all hell would have broken loose.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
We’re excusong you because you’re obviously drinking hard today.
by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't have much interest but am guessing your punchline involved some sort of political joke ;)
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No punchline from me involved or implied. Was leaving it up to the creativeness of the group to supply that.
Meh, we're as lazy as a baby anteater.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No because he would have taken it to “they’re gay so they must be shitty pitchers”.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Help Finding a TV show
Considering the wealth of knowledge among the members of this blog I thought I’d reach out for help. My dad is looking for a TV show that he recently watched that was a showcase of half-hour dramas done by famous directors. He thinks it was called something like “Hollywood Directors Showcase.” Anyone know what I’m talking about?
"Historic day" in the MLB
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
Selig confirms #Astros move to AL, addition of two more Wild Card slots. Calls this a historic day.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If historic means more watering down of the playoffs as they continue to move toward the NBA model then I guess he’s accurate.
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if its a one game playoff
its worse then the NBA model
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Red Sox fans are gonna show up with torches when they get bounced in by a team seven games worse than them.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
it’s not even a 1 game playoff. whichever team would bring a bigger tv revenue to the first round ge the at large bid
Three division winners + one “commissioners at large bid” make the playoffs.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Call in and vote who you want to see int he playoffs, X Factor Style
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
each non-playoff over-.500 team sends a representative to compete Miss America style for the last playoff spot.
The secret ingredient is…natto!
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
ewwww
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
NASCAR keeps tinkering with the Chase trying to to find a way to get Junior Earnhardt in. This is MLB’s version.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Right
oh noes the #4 team got knocked out by the #5 team. Win thedivision and you don’t have to worry about it, suckahs.
Double Right
GFY for being a wild-card. As uchris would say, the wild-card teams should have to play while wearing a skirt and pretty pink lipstick.
As in, the Lincoln Assassination was “historic.”
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
That seems like an extreme comparison, but I’ll allow it
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t see how realignment is going to work without the DH being universal.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
How is it any different than now? Home park, league rules.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
The AL keeps getting a giant advantage.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
AL teams have an actual DH
NL teams use some dude off the bench
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
They get to have an actual DH and we usually move the catcher to the DH slot.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Then they have a very potent weapon off the bench or they just play him at first or something?
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
:(
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
So as long as you have a guy who suddenly made gigantic improvements that you didn’t predict so you signed two All Star caliber players to play in front of him you can have a DH.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
it also allows the NL team to improve its defense. ie – Gwynn to LF and Rivera to DH. So there is more to it than just offense.
And the AL team was already built with this in mind.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
2014 Dodger Designated Hitter
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
But realignment affects none of this. There won’t be more interleague play; it will just happen more often. Like all the time.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
this is probably inevitable
mlbpa is probably down with it too.. another highly paid position for guys with flaws in their game and a way for dudes to continue playing longer..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
not just dudes, but big name dudes who still draw a crowd like Frank Thomas, hideki Matsui, Jim Thome.
Who is sitting at home saying, God Damn Matsui is DH’ing today, I gots to go see that.
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there’s a whole country that watches Mariners games just because Ichiro plays. Just because they don’t go to games doesn’t mean they aren’t a revenue source.
Okay
but why are you bringing a whole new name into your argument? Do you think a whole country became Oakland A fans because Matsui was sucking for them?
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last year he was in search of his 500th career home run (NPB and MLB)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
nihon-jins
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
If they go that way
I still say the just realign everything and go to 2 divisions, MLB West and MLB East. No need to separate between NL and AL.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
That’s fine too. I’m just obsessed with trying to get back to some sort of balanced schedule and I do find the idea of having all 5 CA teams and the AZ team in the same division competing.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Shitty fantasy situation this week. . . need some assistance from the experts
pick 3 out of 6 WR’s to start
Dez Bryant vs. Washington
Laurent Robinson vs. Washington
Brandon Lloyd vs. Seattle
Mario Manningham vs. Philly
Victor Cruz vs. Philly
Denarius Moore vs. Minnesota
ESPN and Yahoo sports are all over Denarius Moore for some reason, but how can anyone trust a Oakland WR. . opinions anyone
by SeanMillerSavior on Nov 17, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions
Isn’t the whole point of roto sports to prove to your peers how much smarter you are then they are?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Bryant
Manningham
Lloyd
Ugh. Its going to be frustrating since you have teammates and you’ll inevitably end up picking the wrong one. Good luck.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I’m in a worse spot with Colston and Wallace on bye.
Decker, Nate Washington, Vincent Brown, David Nelson (available), or Damian Williams (available) for my 2 wr spots.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
jesus, those are your WRs? are you in a 15 team league or what?
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
10 teamer. I just picked up Brown for this week in case I wanted to play him.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
ummm, did you not see Denarius Moore blow up vs the Chargers?? With Ford out, he will remain Palmer’s top WR option. Minnesota is shitty vs the pass, so add it all up. Moore is a baller.
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I have Manningham as well, but sitting him because of Philly corners… plus he put up a zero vs them last time… Cowboys are on fire and Romo isnt wearing that protective vest nor taking pain killers, he is a highly recommended start this sunday, even though Wash D has been good vs the pass. So you gotta start his WRs, pick one.
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I’d go Dez Bryant, Lloyd, and Moore…. Rotoworld has Lloyd 9th, Bryant 11th. Moore 14th at WR this week. Robinson and Mannigham are ranked in the 20’s
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
yeah thats kinda where I was leaning
but damn I hate making these decision
by SeanMillerSavior on Nov 17, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I dont know, but that shit was pretty funny last night.
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I know it was wrong, but I couldnt stop laughing.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
It wouldn’t be a historic day if he didn’t make a bunch of bad decisions effective immediately.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Even the Astros have to wait until 2013 to move to the AL
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Really, that blows, that would be like signing Pujols but not getting him until 2013.
Okay not really but waiting blows, people die while waiting. If you are going to do something then do it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Well, considering 2012 schedules have already been made, it’s understandable.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
they have Carlos Lee
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Besides UZR said he was the best fielding LF so you can’t stick him at DH now that he’s learned how to field his position.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
So we have a chance?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t like it, maybe if the season was cut short and they made the first round 3 games, not a one and done.
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I’m against cutting the regular season short. Mostly because I like watching Dodger games
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
so is it going to be just 2, 15 team leagues with no divisions? or they’ll still have the divisions?
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
It doesn’t seem right to play 162 games for a coin flip
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
it makes for high stakes drama. Also makes teams try to win their division. None of this crap we had in the AL East last year where niether front runner cared much about winning the division since they were both in the playoffs.
yeah
all 3 of the teams in the AL east make the playoffs instead
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
These are valid points
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
If we’re talking about losing high stakes drama, do we want to site the 2011 AL East?
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
all 3 teams in the AL east make the playoffs in 2010 if the WC is added
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
not trying to argue with you, just don’t like that the formula
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Kershaw
20 first place votes
12 for Halladay
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Cliff Lee sets a record for 3rd place votes (no idea what the record is)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I think Kershaw wins a VERY close win
1 or two first place votes separate them
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Theres a joke here about women somewhere
but I’m not the guy to make it.
Halladay/Kershaw Split
16 First place votes
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
You Southerners have to get over the Civil War
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Can we wait until I retire?
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty much, no official announcement yet but unofficially the word is out that they are dying. They look bad. The debate has already started on whether to replace them with full-grown live trees or (I’m not making this up) bronze tree statuary suitable for water cannons blasting away toilet paper. Wrgl.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
sucks balls
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
They’ve also postponed the trial again. The accused can’t stop calling Paul Finebaum. Every time he does, another lawyer quits.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I lived in Raleigh NC for 4 years
There was some mention of the civil war somewhere in the newspaper every single day
Mrs HJ and I amused ourselves endlessly trying to find it, sometimes you really had to read everything to loook and there is would be where you’d least expect to find it – in like a recipe or movie review
good times
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 17, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
People never forget. Back in 86 the Japanese company I worked for published a watch catalog, every single watch in the catalog had the date display at 12/7. It was not a mistake.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
My kid teaches near Hiroshima. One day, a kid called out “Remember Pearl Harbor!” The senior teacher jumped in immediately and said “No, he gets to remember Pearl Harbor, we’re trying to forget.”
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The wrong guys notices something like that and all of a sudden the company is overwhelmed by a shitload of bogus orders from a Miss Enola Gay
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 17, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I will just say I will be really, really mad if that happens. Not because Halladay wouldn’t be deserving, but because I would have to do a bunch of re-writing and editing
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Kershaw wins by landslide
Not even close
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP
by funkyjam on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I am actually really excited for the announcement of the award. This is awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Future Eric:
FIFTH PLACE? FUCK YOU, SAN DIEGO VOTER!
.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 11:01 AM PST reply actions
Refresh is weak like Ukraine.
I use Tweet Deck, so I just have to sift through The Matrix once the news comes in fast and furious.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
yeah Mcfadden still is practicing. This offseason if it comes to choosing between McFadden or Bush, what do you do? I love McFadden, but dude heals slow as fuck. Get out there already! Ford also isnt going to play.
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
thats what I meant, my bad… he didnt practice, neither did Ford, both wont play
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
and Bush is a FA after this season, might get a good offer and starting job somewhere else after this season. Like I said, I love McFadden, but the injury shit needs to stop, pronto.
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I’d argue the most important award today.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
He’s my dude. Drafted him a little early in the hopes that DMC would get dinged, and it paid off these last 2 weeks.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
i picked him up off waivers not knowing at all who he was because Yahoo projected him as having more points 2 weeks ago than the other guy i had.
The scary thing is I actually remember watching him in a high school game when i was like 14. Followed him a little bit ever since.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
New schedule
72 Divisional Games
60 Non-Divisional Games
30 Interleague Games
Balanced so that everyone in the division plays common opponents. I like this.
I would assume 6 games against one division
by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe 6 against every team from one division in the other league. If so, it would be similar to the NFL.
That’s way too easy. They’ve already said they’re keeping the rivalry games so how they distribute the other series is still up in the air. Maybe three with the division your rivalry team is in and three with some other division.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
I am pro balanced schedule.
Where is that from?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry, should have mentioned that it was speculation.
by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
ya think
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Getting rid of neighborhood rivalries?
Angels/Dodgers, Yankees/Mets, Cubs/White Sox?
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Even if you got to down to one series that would be an improvement. You don’t need a home/home, just rotate them each year.
But these games are highest attendance games for NY/LA/Chicago teams so they aren’t going anywhere.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
You think you got problems
These are my fantasy players on a bye this week:
Brees
Mendenhall
Pierre
Thomas
Colston
Antonio Brown
Owen Daniels
Steelers
Two of my back-ups were Santana Moss and Matt Cassel
I am so fucked this week, that I am sure somehow my team will win
Did you:
a) plan to suck in week 11, but have no byes the rest of the weeks and maintain that advantage?
b) not pay attention on draft day?
just drafted the best player as available, noticed it while I was drafting but chose to ignore it
I wasn’t going to take a worse player to fit the bye schedule
That strategy has worked great until now – I am already a playoff lock – but I am starting Matt Moore
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
No, this is it for bye weeks… Still dont get why they had no bye weeks in week 10, but do in week 11… anyways this is last week of the byes
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
So did this article give away the winner?
Kershaw is the Dodgers first pitcher to win the Cy Young Award since reliever Eric Gagne in 2003 and the first Dodgers starter to win it since Orel Hershiser in 1988.
From the article Eric retweeted
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/32083/adjustment-helps-kershaw-rate-with-best
I doubt it. Probably pre-written and not corrected for tense.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Unless my phone rings – I am doing jack shit for the next 16 minutes other than amusing myself here AND reflecting on the greatness of Kershaw
i bought a 4 pack of tissue boxes the other day specifically so I could practice my swing in the living room.
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck you
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why I laughed really hard at this, but I did.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Eric does not believe in backup plans
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
great, that just jinxed it… now the story will have to be posted in some 3rd world blog.
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
The second article is 500 eloquent words describing exactly how the city of Philadelphia can go fuck themselves.
With a picture of Carlos "Fucking" Ruiz
just for good measure
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Nov 17, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Spoiler: Kershaw’s gonna win.
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by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I refuse to look for the news anywhere but here
I want to be fed the info
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 17, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Still thinking of Raleigh, I see. I once dated a woman from North Carolina who had it shipped to her dorm room.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
seriously, how has it not been leaked already!
by uschris0304 on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
If Roy Halladay does beat Clayton Kershaw, it will be because Halladay Googled how to beat Bill Hall (0-3 vs. RH; 2-2, two 2B vs. CK in ’11)
and that dude on Diamondbacks, Cory Sadsack or something.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
YES!!!!!!!
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
COUNT THE CROWNS!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2011 11:02 AM PST reply actions
Kids special.
"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP
by funkyjam on Nov 17, 2011 11:04 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Grammar police!
The plural of runner-up is runners-up, not runner-ups.
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