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Dodgers Finalize Matt Kemp Contract; Film At 11

It's official, or at least will be at 11 a.m. PST when the Dodgers hold a press conference at Dodger Stadium. Matt Kemp will be with the Dodgers through 2019. The All-Star center fielder on Friday finalized his eight-year, $160 million contract extension with the club, the largest contract in National League history.

Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times has the breakdown:

$2 million signing bonus
2012: $10 million (of which $2 million is deferred without interest until 2013)
2013: $20 million (plus $2 million deferred from 2012)
2014: $21 million
2015: $21 million
2016: $21.5 million
2017: $21.5 million
2018: $21.5 million
2019: $21.5 million

Kemp sits high atop the list of Dodgers contracts in total value:

  • Kemp: eight years, $160 million (2012-2019)
  • Kevin Brown: seven years, $105 million (1999-2005)
  • Shawn Green: six years, $84 million (2000-2005)
  • Darren Dreifort: five years, $55 million (2001-2005)
  • J.D. Drew: five years, $55 million (2005-2009; included player opt out after two years)
  • Jason Schmidt: three years, $47 million (2007-2009)
  • Manny Ramirez: two years, $45 million (2009-2010; second year was a player option)
  • Juan Pierre: five years, $44 million (2007-2011)
  • Rafael Furcal: three years, $39 million (2006-2008)
  • Andruw Jones: two years, $36.2 million (2008-2009)

With reports this week that the Dodgers payroll is expected to be less in 2012 than it was in 2011, the structuring of Kemp's contract plays a large role in determining what free agent starting pitcher will be brought in. The payroll last year ended up at just under $115 million, not too far off the $113 million on opening day. With Kemp getting $10 million next year, far less than he would have received through arbitration, the 2012 payroll is estimated at $106.5 million. It gives the team more flexibility than they would have had, but doesn't leave a lot of room to bring back Hiroki Kuroda, unless a large chunk of his salary is deferred.

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Kemp is laughing because CK had to borrow one of Broxton’s jackets for the press conference yesterday.

by keithc13 on Nov 18, 2011 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

She’s prolly not here. I’m sure she’s in Africa curing Malaria or something cool like that

by keithc13 on Nov 18, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

she is like 19 also. does not know any better

by delias man on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought they were high school sweethearts which would make them near the same age, no?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

My guess is Deliasman pulled a number out of a hat

and it was 19.

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by Ivdown on Nov 18, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Must have been Stephen King’s hat

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 18, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Dallas…..the burbs anyway

by keithc13 on Nov 18, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t be happier about the Kemp extension. Kemp & Piazza are neck and neck as my all time favorite players….the fact Piazza was never signed long term makes me enjoy Kemp’s extension that much more!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Nov 18, 2011 9:53 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I agree with the above statement

by keithc13 on Nov 18, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I am simply overjoyed by this deal.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 18, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact that Piazza never signed an extension is what took him out of the running for one of my favorite players.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you elaborate?

Piazza’s departure coincided with my “break” from baseball. IIRC, he was offered an extension but wanted to test the open-market? What was the final extension offer the Dodgers put on the table?

by ishXdavid on Nov 18, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

a grip. he would have had the biggest contract ever. prick.

by delias man on Nov 18, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

How much more did he actually get from the Met’s? Not much right?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

It was less than 100M.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He wanted to crack the 100M barrier. I think the Dodgers’ offer was in the 6/90 range. He gave some silly ultimatum, saying if you don’t give me my money, then I’m testing the market. They called his bluff and sent him off.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if it was silly, he simply said what most have said, make the deal before the season starts or we won’t negotiate again until after the season.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s silly if you’re sincere about wanting to stay with the team for the long haul.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Everyone does that, don’t see how it is silly, they have all winter, nothing gets done, time to concentrate on playing baseball.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Best multi year contract in Dodger history with only Shawn Green and Kevin Brown even in the conversation. Not often you get your man for his peak years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Say he has a year as good as 2009 this upcoming year, just with a bit more home run power

and doesn’t sign this extension, but goes off to free agency.

What kind of deal does he look for out there? I’d have to guess he gets close to 200 million.

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by Ivdown on Nov 18, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought all along he could get a $200 million deal next year. If you are going to pay POS players 4 Million you might as well pay the super stars $25 Million

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Sign superstars to $20mm contracts

Don’t sign POS players period. new market efficiency? lol

by BFDC on Nov 18, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I’d go with Stars and Scrubs teams feeling my scrubs would at least produce at the same level the other GM’s are paying $4 Million for.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember you talking about that months ago

Honestly how shocked are you about the extension

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by Ivdown on Nov 18, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Very, one of most pleasant shocks I’ve had related to the Ned Colleti Dodgers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

WOO

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Excellent question, why was he omitted?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I only did top 10. He was 11.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the Lowe deal so far has been the best multi year deal the Dodgers have given out in that he produced every single year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree – I think Lowe performed better than I expected over the course of his contract. It was a great deal for the Dodgers.

by latenite on Nov 18, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

So paying players that may have seemed mediocre sometimes works out.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember the deal well, the ERA was high but when you dug deeper the ground ball rate is what got your attention. I don’t recall being upset with the Lowe deal after we dug into his peripherals.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t remember my reaction. I think I was surprised they signed a pitcher when there were more holes on offense, but thought D.Lowe was decent enough.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

4.22 xFIP and 3.5 fWAR the prior year. Considering he was moving from the AL to the NL, you should have expected a bit of an improvement in xFIP (and he did.) In his four years in LA, he put up an fWAR of 15.5. For the four years prior (and fWAR adjusts for NL vs. AL) he put up an fWAR of 14.9, so right in the same range. It was a great buy and his performance in LA made sense once you dug into the numbers.

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Nobody knew what xFIP was in 2005

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

No, but I had xERA from Baseball HQ which was basically the same thing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

No doubt. fWAR either. I’m working in hindsight.

I’m guessing the periphs Phil had available to him at the time were the same sort of things (if GB rates rather than normalized HR/FB rates)

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m fairly certain Reg did some good work on the Lowe deal and came out with a thumbs up. Back then he was our goto sabr guy at Dodger Thoughts. He’d post what he thought on TBLA, Jon Weisman would link to it, we’d read it at TBLA, come back to Dodger Thoughts and discuss it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

There was another really good Dodgers blogger who wrote some great analysis of the Lowe signing (I want to say his name was Tom) who stopped blogging shortly after the signing. Any idea who that was?

by Xeifrank on Nov 18, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s it. I remember reading a terrific analysis of the Lowe signing from him. Kind of got me started on sabermetrics and Dodgers blogs. Found DT through him.

by Xeifrank on Nov 18, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, I think he was the first Dodger Blogger I ever read, and then Dodger Thoughts.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Sarah Morris was the first Dodger blogger I ever read. I kicked that habit quickly though.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He's a facebook friend

but he posts even more rarely than I do

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 18, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

The general thought at the time IIRC was that it wasn’t the worst thing ever because of Lowe’s ground ball rate (new Dodgers Jose Valentin and Jeff Kent rated highly on defense, defying the conventional wisdom), and that Lowe didn’t allow too many homers and Dodger Stadium would suppress his doubles and triples.

But it was definitely something to be talked into.

Lowe’s postseason run in 2004 made him the extra cash. He won the clinching game in all three Red Sox postseason series.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

He was awesome that post season but I’m not that Depo would have cared enough about post – season performance to bump his contract up. He got what Depo felt he was worth.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus – he took the ball every 5 games. Was he ever on the DL with the Dodgers?

by latenite on Nov 18, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The only time he pitched less than 200 innings for LAD was 2007

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

$200,000 less than Andruw.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

36/4

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow. I thought the total value was definitely in the $40s…

Great contract

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely

A far cry from the expletives I yelled at the BART station in Oakland when I heard of the deal. “Why the fuck did we give $36 million to a guy with a 5 ERA last year?”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

4 years, 30 something million

by keithc13 on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

We should send Dave Stewart some flowers. I’m very impressed they choose to stay here.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

For all the huffing and puffing, both of Stewart’s boys got signed.

by BFDC on Nov 18, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Did we ever officially hear that the budget is 115m?

by delias man on Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

That is what Ned told Joey Joe

by keithc13 on Nov 18, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Both Dylan H and Ken G had reports saying the payroll would be less than in 2011.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Still seems silly to have signed Rivera and Ellis before finding out if Kuroda was coming back. Unless he defers a ton we can’t fit him in right now unless we jettison either Andre, Loney, or find a way to remove Uribe/Gurrier contacts.

Still seems silly to have signed Rivera and Ellis even if Kuroda was not coming back so we could at least explore FA pitching options with some flexibility

Still seems silly to have signed Rivera and Ellis if we have payroll issues.

Still seems silly to have signed Rivera and Ellis

At least Matt’s deal gives us a shot to hook in a Capuano or Harang.

Yet Matt Kemp is here forever so whatever Ned has done this winter to irritate me, that alone means I can’t complain so I’ll shut my trap for a while.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

In the words of The Duke: “That’ll be the day.”

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Nov 18, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I loved me some Darren Dreifort

The contract was an albatross, but he had some truly sick stuff on the mound.

They call me the thread killer

by Greg Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

It was always, “If only Dreifort stays healthy” or “once Dreifort is healthy, we are gonna kick ass!”

by BFDC on Nov 18, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Dreifort was healthy and in the rotation one year in the early 2000s and that was my dream pitching rotation. Kevin Brown, Dreifort, Odalis, Nomo and somebody else. It didn’t last long.

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It was 2003. As reg points out, the Dodgers 2003 pitching staff has a legitimate argument for best of all time.

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric Karros was on PMS yesterday and said that Dreifort has had 26 or 27 surgeries from the start of his career until now. That number is mind blowing.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 18, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

favorite dreifort moment

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN200007050.shtml we were sitting prolly 20 rows back from the wall at SD and he hit it straight over us into the 2nd deck at qualcomm. when i was at qualcomm last week i told my 15 year old bro in law about the most majestic HR i ever saw in this park, showed him where home plate used to be, and how far it went. He could care less.

by delias man on Nov 18, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

He could hit, that is why I wanted him to be starter instead of a reliever just so I could watch him hit.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

So he was the stabbing victim? :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

he is 6-1 240

he would destroy me before i got the knife in him.

by delias man on Nov 18, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That is what throwing knifes is for, just ask Charles Bronson

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

1993 Draft

Why did Seattle get the #1 pick in the 1993 draft with a 64-98 record over the Dodgers and their 63-99 record?

by ishXdavid on Nov 18, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

They alternated leagues.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

They alternated the worst NL/AL teams for #1 pick like they used to for home-field advantage? WHAT.THE.FUCK. I know I’m almost 20 years late with the sour grapes, but WHAT THE FUCK kind of bullshit is that? Because we sucked in the wrong year, we ended up with Darren Dreifort instead of A-Rod?

by ishXdavid on Nov 18, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Ah, what could have been.

Rumor has it that Seattle could have gone either way with that pick. They liked Dreifort a lot too.

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

A-Rod didn’t want the Mariners to draft him, he wanted to come to LA. The Mariners didn’t care and drafted him anyway, so the Dodgers settled on Drefort

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

This is killing me. It’s like finding out 20 years down the road that Heather Locklear had a crush on you in high school and was waiting for you to ask her out.

by ishXdavid on Nov 18, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

But then somebody asked her out before you could, and they got married, and then divorced, and you realized she was a tramp, but you still know she would have been worth it for the time you could have had her

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

EXACTLY

and what a grand time it would’ve been.

by ishXdavid on Nov 18, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

“4th Time Around” is brilliant, funny, engaging. I could listen to this Dylan stuff til my head falls off.

by silverwidow on Nov 18, 2011 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

I love that song

The line “I never asked for your crutch, now don’t ask for mine” was apparently a shot at John Lennon.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I heard about that

Dylan didn’t like him lifting his style with Norwegian Wood. Another fucking brilliant song.

by silverwidow on Nov 18, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Those two songs are perfect when listened to in tandem.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Dylan

Just can’t get into it. This is why I was not born too late.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 18, 2011 10:17 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The secret for me at least: stick to early Dylan. Everything after Blood on the Tracks (1974) is crap.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

“It’s Alright, Ma” has been stuck in my head for weeks. Rhymes are just so damned great.

by silverwidow on Nov 18, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

At one point I had those lyrics memorized but I don’t think I could get through it right now without cheating. Love it.

Gates of Eden too.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Desire (1976), but generally, yeah.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 18, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Silverwidow, another song I sort of put in that category is Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues. Absurd, yet funny storytelling. Great lyrics.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, will check it out tonight.

by silverwidow on Nov 18, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

If I ever listened to Dylan

that is what would happen to me. My head would fall off

They call me the thread killer

by Greg Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

He's polarizing

But I love it. Such a sarcastic son of a bitch, too.

by silverwidow on Nov 18, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy his stuff in general, but he is without question the worst performer I have ever paid real money to see.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I went with my best friends girl

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

“He wasn’t just what I needed.”
-Greg’s girlfriend, after said concert

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

“Life’s the same, except for my shoes.”

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 18, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

No. Let’s Go.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I did

Robotic performance that sounded exactly like the record. Not much too it. This was the Candy-O tour.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 18, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

in the NBA there is a “max salary” a player can get. in the MLB i see kemp is going to be getting 21.5 for the last 4 years of the deal. i wonder if contracts are ever written in MLB where the player gets the most money during the most productive years

so in this case im wondering if kemp’s contract “could have” been written as 23/23/20/20 as opposed to 21.5 × 4? in the NBA salaries increase by a set amount per season which is why that bell shaped curve contract never exists. just wondering if its possible here.

by raj m on Nov 18, 2011 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

I heard the other day (and am too lazy to verify)

that A-Rod’s salary is at it’s peak now and will decrease throughout the remainder of the contract.

They call me the thread killer

by Greg Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

2008:$27m ($2m signing bonus)
2009:$32m ($1m signing bonus)
2010:$32m ($1m signing bonus)
2011:$31m ($1m signing bonus)
2012:$29m ($1m signing bonus)
2013:$28m ($1m signing bonus)
2014:$25m (+$3m signing bonus)
2015:$21m
2016:$20m
2017:$20m

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably easier to structure a contract the right way, when you have actual money.

by BFDC on Nov 18, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Too Much Moneyball

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s why i love this site. and that’s why i love the dodgers – talking about matt kemp contract permutations instead of lamenting he’s gone. now if we could just expedite this McCourt dilemma we’d be on our way…..

by raj m on Nov 18, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if this has been talked about

When people say Halladay faced tougher competition than Kershaw in terms of win/loss records why should that matter? If they want to use tougher competition as a metric to judge against, wouldn’t they use a team’s offensive ranking?
With some quick research, Kershaw had 12 starts against top 10 offenses (using runs/game), Halladay had 8. Against bottom 10 teams, Kershaw had 15 starts, Halladay had 17. There’s more research to do there, but I wanted to see what you guys think.

by yolos on Nov 18, 2011 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

I think definitely yes, looking at offenses is the way to go rather than team itself. The Giants for instance were a winning team but their offense was piss poor.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

its hard to do

because are they arguing about stats like wins/losses, which are team based or are the arguing about things like FIP which are opponents offense based. If it is the latter then you want to look at the opposing offenses and park adjust. And then to do it right, you want to just look at the individual batters he faced, not so much the teams. Could turn in to a science project, but I’m sure somebody could do it.

by Xeifrank on Nov 18, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

That seems like a ton of work

If Kershaw had lost, then I’d be motivated to prove he should have won. If i get really bored at work, I could look into it. I figured that you would have an idea of how to get an in depth look at it

by yolos on Nov 18, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like a bell boy

a bell boy who can hit a baseball really hard.

by Xeifrank on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Let the Bison bow.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Matt Kemp loves him some 3 piece suits

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

prediction

He will be on some best dressed list in Esquire or GQ

dude is on time right now

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 18, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He looks like a bloody idiot

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Good thing we have baseball

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 18, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Captain Peacock

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

that is fair

very peacock

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 18, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

So

coats aren’t supposed to button nowadays? It still looks like a bad fit to me. But I’m old and cranky

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 18, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

That looks like it could button. I would think with a 3 piece suit you want to leave it open to show off the vest

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

his sleaves may be too short?

and it looks wrinkly

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Sleeves are definitely not too short. You are supposed to show some of your shirt cuff

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

they could BOTH be too short

can’t tell with his elbows crooked like that

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, they clearly are shortened because of his bent elbows. Sure looks like they would be long enough and the proper length

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm just giving marty the benefit of the doubt

its not one of my smarter decisions :-p

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

He looks like a maître d’

with that bow tie. The suit is too tight. Clothes should hang on you slightly, not form fit.

Now you there, yeah you. Get the fuck off my lawn

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 18, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Marty, if you had Matt Kemp’s physique, you’d buy more form-fitting clothes too.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 18, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It could button

Blazers and coats: High arm holes, softer construction and snug on the shoulder, tailored for a close fit through the waist. Sleeves at wrist to show a bit of shit cuff

Pants: Lower rise, fit through the glutes, narrower legs, and shorter in length than americans have worn since the 50’s

Ties: Rep ties, not too wide, slim is better than skinny for most occasions

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 18, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I would like absurd at any occasion

with a sikinny tie

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

go slim on the tie, but not skinny

narrower collar on your dress shirt + narrower lapel on your jacket

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Wear the skinny black tie if you’re going for the Mod/Paul Weller look. Otherwise, slim is in.

by Captain Peacock on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

at an ESPN interview ...

Kemp admitted he’s got a fettish for socks.

by Venergy on Nov 18, 2011 12:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Listening to 710, hoping they would go live to the Dodgers press conference. So far, no. This is painful.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

Nothing on TV yet either. I’ve checked Prime Ticket, Fox Sports, and MLB Net

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

cool

is he wearing two watches?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Flanders

sporting his contract piece?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 18, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind Kemp’s outfit, Ned has brown boots with a black suit. Lame

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Ned would have never been able to walk past the guards without them noticing like Andy Dufresne.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

You can tell a lot about a man from his shoes.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

how about his slippers?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I only wear George Costanza shoes.

by fbihop on Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Do they not actually have a dedicated media room at Dodger Stadium? That thing looks like it’s the living room at some foreclosed home.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 18, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

That is in the Stadium Club

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking about making the exact same comment

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

When you build something in early 60s

A large media center is not in the plans. Also there isn’t a lot of room to put something like that together. When I say that the layout at Camelback makes Dodger Stadium seem even older than it is, I am not kidding.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

They have a room in the bowels of the stadium down the LF line that they use for postgame stuff in the postseason, but yeah they basically don’t have one.

Anything big they almost always just use the Stadium Club.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

When they signed Torre didn’t they use the field?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess that too. Kershaw yesterday as well

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Manny’s resigning was also outdoors, in Arizona.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

“I’ve been here working out since 6 a.m. Where you been? -Manny

“I’ve been here the past 6 weeks” -Kemp

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Should have signed the extension right then and there.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that Frank’s shiny pate behind it?

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 18, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Frank’s starting to remind me of Tom Cruise in “Taps.” Ronny Cox may have to come in with the army to pry him out.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 18, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

No

MVPs Monday and Tuesday

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I got a lifetime acheivement award today

but I give myself one of those every morning

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 18, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that what they call it now?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 18, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The TBLA awards don’t start until December.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope i'm nominated

It’s an honor to just be nominated

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Nov 18, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

You know who is going to be the second biggest loser in this whole McCourt business

Or third if the top two are Frank and Jamie (and then the fans so maybe fourth).

Fox.

Look, if Frank and Jamie settle their business quietly, Fox probably could have gotten another under market deal for the rights to all the Dodger games for many years to come.

But now, they know that at best, they have those rights for another 2 years and that the Bankruptcy Court could easily allow an auction to take place for those rights now.

The Court could also invalidate their existing contract but I don’t think they will do that.

This is why Fox is battling the Dodgers now. And also they know that MLB basically sold them out.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 18, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Jed Hoyer on new Cubs manager Dale Sveum

per Carrie Muskat:

Hoyer mentioned that there was a "wow" moment early in the actual interview with Sveum. Epstein agreed.

"Dale provided extremely well thought out answers to nuanced baseball questions instantaneously, answer after answer after answer," Epstein said. "We came up for air and took a break and looked at each other and said ‘Wow.’ This was not the type of thing you could fake. It wasn’t that he prepared for the interview but he spent a lifetime as a very intelligent person observing the game with an open mind to come up with his own baseball philosophy on how to win and it was very impressive."

Expect Sveum to think outside the box a little. If he needs his closer in the eighth inning, he’ll use him then. He believes in five infielders in certain situations.

"It’s about winning the game," Epstein said.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 18, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Expect Sveum to think outside the box a little. If he needs his closer in the eighth inning, he’ll use him then. He believes in five infielders in certain situations.

I like this. We’ll see if it sticks once the egos and what not come into play

by BFDC on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

You can expect Zambrano to bat sixth in days he’s pitching and playing 1st in games he’s not:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

When he's not pitching

he’s back in his straight-jacket

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the TV in the background with Kemp hitting a bomb

by yolos on Nov 18, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Signing that contract must be one of the greatest feelings ever.

by BFDC on Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Checking your bank balance on your phone and seeing the signing bonus direct deposit is up there.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Gurnick
“I want other big-time free agents to consider L.A. as a team that they want to be a part of,” Kemp said. “I want to win as many games as we can and get to the World Series. It is a great city and a great organization to be a part of.”

Link

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

Kemp just called himself a big time free agent :)

by Michael White on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Rihanna had her chance.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's a real test of some baseball knowledge

http://www.sporcle.com/games/grays1705/top25hitting

The triples list is killing me right now. I’ve got 40/100, but i’ve still got half my time left.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Nov 18, 2011 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

Triples is a killer, no way anyone can even get 15 of them

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 18, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, triples is tough. I got all the HR’s easily, but only like half each of singles and doubles, and hardly any in the triples. Still got a few more minutes though

by Billyum on Nov 18, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I got all of 4 of them, lol

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Nov 18, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Rule 5 adds

Reminder that the deadline is tonight. I remember last year waiting anxiously all night, only to find we added some old reliever and Vector. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

The analysis only stays that way if he stays in CF, right?

by G.Scott on Nov 18, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends on how the defense adjusts and whether it staves off decline.

All valuation projections are extremely rough.

by Chad Moriyama on Nov 22, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that value is way overdone.

by Xeifrank on Nov 18, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

His baseline or the money?

Because if anything, it looks as if I undershot the dollars per WAR.

by Chad Moriyama on Nov 22, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The new prospect discussion post is up, along with the voting post, but this is Kemp’s day so conintue having that discussion here.

Eric, feel free to move this one back up to the top as well unless you have another kemp post coming

by Brandon Lennox on Nov 18, 2011 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

I got nothing. We can move there

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Kemp: Let’s hope we’re back here on Tuesday for another press conference & everybody cheering “MVP”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 18, 2011 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

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