2012 TBLA #8 Dodger Prospect Discussion
Joc Pederson beat out the competition to capture TBLA's #7 prospect, winning by a few votes over runner up Shawn Tolleson. The outfielder becomes the first offensive player to make the list, and must have won people over with his standout season in the Pioneer League.
Since the vote was basically split between Pederson and Tolleson, I considered naming Tolleson the #8 prospect without a vote, but after Phil's post on Saturday thought better of it. In addition, it seems quite possible that all the Pederson supporters have somebody else in mind to vote for, especially since Tolleson is a relief pitcher. That being said, if Tolleson starts to run away with the #8 vote I'll definitely update this post and move on to #9 pretty quickly.
Here are the candidates for the Dodgers #8 prospect:
James Baldwin - OF (20 years old) - Baldwin started the 2011 season on fire, and while he cooled down as the year progressed he still finished with 10 homers, 22 stolen bases, and a .828 OPS. Many people call him the most exciting prospect since Matt Kemp, although Baldwin struggles with strikeouts much more than Kemp did. He should have no trouble handling center field as he moves up through the minors.
Alfredo Silverio - OF (24.5 years old) - Signed way back in 2003, Silverio finally figured out how to make good use of the athleticism that scouts have seen in him for years. This past season the outfielder led the Southern League in total bases, and hit .306 with 16 homers and a .883 OPS. He also showed good speed with a minor league high 18 triples, but was caught in 12 of his 23 SB attempts. While he spent most of the 2011 in center field, it remains to be seen if he'll be able to handle that position at the big league level.
Angelo Songco - 1B (23 years old) - Songco had a monster season for the Quakes in 2011, leading the California League in doubles and total bases while hitting .313 with 29 homers and 114 RBI's. He's always had a ton of raw power, and it finally showed this past year. He made the switch from left field to 1st base during the season, but overall doesn't have much defensive value so he's going to have to continue to hit as he moves up through the system.
Jonathan Garcia - OF (20 years old) - Garcia got off to a hot start in 2011 and showed good power throughout the season with 19 homers, but he ended the year in a major slump and hit just .228 for the season. He was one of the youngest players in the Midwest League, however, and has plenty of time to improve and mature. On defense Garcia has a strong arm and should be able to handle right field as he moves up through the system.
Shawn Tolleson - RHP (23.75 years old) - Tolleson flew through the minor leagues in 2011, advancing from LoA to AA and dominating everywhere he went. His combined stats were ridiculous as he had a 1.17 ERA, a 1.01 WHIP, a 1.59 FIP, and a 13.7 K/9 over 69 innings. His cutter is by far his best pitch, which by most accounts is nearly unhittable for lower level minor leaguers. He also mixes in a solid fastball, which apparently hit 97 mph last season on a good night, and a slider.
Angel Sanchez - RHP (22 years old) - Sanchez literally came out of nowhere in 2011 and had a very good season for the Great Lakes Loons. Signed out of the Dominican Republic, he jumped straight to the Midwest League and had a 2.82 ERA, a 3.46 FIP, a 7.6 K/9, and a .198 batting average against. He throws a hard fastball that can reach 97 mph, and he also has a curveball and changeup.
Alex Castellanos - OF (25.25 years old) - Castellanos made a great impression on Dodger prospect fans after joining the team in the Furcal trade as he posted a 1.009 OPS in his 32 games with the Lookouts, connecting on 4 homers, driving in 23 runs, and walking almost as much as he struck out. There has been talk about converting him to either 2nd base or 1st base since the Dodger have a crowded minor league outfield, so it will be interesting to see where he plays next season. He's listed at 5'11" and despite good home run numbers in 2011, he doesn't necessarily project as a true power threat at the big league level.
Griff Erickson - C (23.5 years old) - The switch hitting catcher had a breakout season in 2011, posting a combined .866 OPS between HiA and AA and smacking 13 homers. He also posted an impressive strikeout to walk ratio, and showed strong defensive skills behind the plate. Erickson is still at least a year away from the big leagues, but he's just 23 years old so he's in a good spot.
Scott Van Slyke - OF/1B (25.25 years old) - Van Slyke had the biggest season of his 7 year minor league career in 2011 while playing with the Lookouts. He led the team in every significant offensive category except for runs and stolen bases, and even won the league batting title with a .348 average. His SLG %, OB%, and OPS all ranked 2nd in the league, and his big season earned him a spot on the Dodgers 40 man roster. He doesn't have much defensive value, so he'll have to continue hitting to make it to the show.
Tim Federowicz - C (24.25 years old) - In his short time with the Dodgers FedEx has impressed with an outstanding display in AAA, but it should be noted that his 1.058 OPS and .325 average while with the Isotopes were significantly higher than his minor league averages. That being said Federowicz does have a decent bat, and since he is an excellent defensive catcher any offensive production we get out of him at the big league level would be a bonus.
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My thinking is, Van Slyke always sucks at a level and is then fine there the following year. if he comes up to MLB after Loney leaves and sucks, he won’t get the chance to a) suck for a whole season and b) try again. We may never know.
Van Slyke sucked in Rookie and Low A, kind of like Trayvon Robinson. Van Slyke did not have his first “good” year until he was 22 years old in the California League.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=vansly001sco
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Aren’t you curious how many players have struck out over 30% of the time in the great offensive ballparks of the Pioneer League and gone onto be worth diddly squat? Has everyone already forgotten Reggie Abercrombie the greatest looking athlete the Dodgers ever signed before Mat Kemp?
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That would be great, has this been mentioned before?
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I was hoping that was about Reggie Abercrombie.
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It’s just such a toss up with all of these guys. I’m going to pick Songco, but I’m not sure Baldwin, Castellanos, or Garcia wouldn’t be better. Silverio I’m 100% undecided on as a prospect, Federowicz may soon be an MLB catcher, but unless he’s successful I’m not sure that means anything. Phil Gurnee himself could throw on a Dodgers uniform, be added to the 5 man roster, and blow chunks for a year.
Castellanos:
Is there any precedent of converting a 25 year old minor leaguer to 2nd base and the player being competent enough defensively to be able to stick there at the major league level?
Except in this case, Castellanos started out as an infielder and then was converted to the outfield. Basically the D Young deal. Trying to move D Young back to 2nd when they realized he couldn’t enough for the outfield did not work out. I suspect the same will happen with Castellanos. D Young tore up the minors at the same age.
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Is this actually a thing that is happening
And not a “sands to 3B” thing?
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What are the odds Belisario just shows up and reports to spring training?
Not necessarily on-time (that would be too crazy) but at some point with a realistic shot of making the team?
I’ll say, 25%
I thought about it for about 6 seconds and that’s the number I came up with
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Not on the active roster. Just that he shows up. Dodgers could still DFA him.
Basically, I’m looking at the odds of him both trying and being allowed to enter the US.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
I'd put each at 50/50
So, I concur, 25%
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 28, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
I can understand the lack of support for Tim Federowicz (not really) but I am surprised at the lack of support for Angel Sanchez compared to Tolleson. Or if Pederson is really your choice for number seven how Garcia is not right behind him. Or Baldwin and the upside he represents. Tolleson upside is Blake Hawksworth, a useful man in a bullpen. Not really understanding all this support for him.
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But Jansen put up those same numbers last year and you were driving the Jansen is #1 train? I could be misremembering.
and Jansen wald almost twice as many guys as Tolleson. Not ony is he striking guys out, he’s doing it by going after them.
Jansen has/had a few MPH on Tolleson too. I’m just not too sure if what he’s doing to hitters in the minors is going to fool MLB hitters often enough.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 9:14 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
We've heard that before though
Remember how bitchy we all were when we saw Lindblom’s velocity in an MLB game. Nowhere near mid to upper 90s.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
This is why I am and have been voting for Tolleson, he has been just about as dominant as Jansen with roughly the same amount of time in the minors. Jansen has more velocity but it appears Tolleson has better control.
Tolleson has twice as many minor league innings pitched now as Jansen did after 2010 and Tolleson has been pitching since at least HS, while Jansen was converted to pitching in mid-2009.
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Remember
he was once a better prospect than Kershaw.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 28, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
And he’s a relief pitcher now.
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But I see that as his ceiling. A kid like Garcia could be so much more, obviously with a significantly lower floor.
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Which was 1.0 (B-R) to 1.5 (Fangraphs) WAR, for what WAR’s worth.
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“You should pitch”
“Throws 98”
Top prospect!
Even after the year Jansen had, I’m not sold on his long term viability. He has Bobby Jenks written all over him.
I’m not sold on his long term viability either
Because he’s a pitcher.
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That’s a healthy concern though and should be written off entirely. Stuff wise, I cringe when I see a hitter start his swing, am relieved when he swings and misses, and and surprised everytime Jansen has a successful inning.
Dude has an MLB K rate per 9 of over 15. The cutter is hard, in the 93s, and moves some.
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Sounds like you are still smarting from this spring when you said he was going to have problems and then put up the greatest K rate in the history of baseball
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
at some point you can't keep
saying that you have to use your eyes when he is breaking or nearly breaking records for k/9. It just seems silly.
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Okay, but now you have moved from he’s going to have problems to he’s going to be Bobby Jenks and not be reliable for then a couple of years.
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First, Jansen DID have problems, and was sent to the minors because of it. He was great after he came back up. Why does that get ignored?
Before he got sent down on May 28, Jansen allowed a 25% line Drive rate, a .743 OPS against, had walked 14 guys in 21 innings. But hey, at least he struck out 35 guys in those innings.
because...
Jansen was in 20 games from 4/2 – 5/28 and in three of those games he gave up
10 hits
12 runs
In the other 17 games he was pretty awesome.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=janseke01&t=p&year=2011
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the 4/2 game (I think was the Lilly start against the Giants)
He got roughed up so badly. Got to see that in person with my friend the Giants fan….ugh.
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after he came back up he faced 120 hitters (compared to 98 before the demotion, so pretty close) and the LD% drops to 15%, BB/9 drops to just over 3. Congrats to him for making an adjustment.
Or as the sample size gets larger numbers will regress to the mean.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
And the more batters swing, the less his walk rate comes into play.
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Jansen put up a sub 3 xFIP in the majors in 2010, a year after being converted from catcher. Jansen had a much higher ceiling (elite closer) than Tolleson has.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
But why doesn’t Tolleson have the same ceiling. His rates are down (to 11) because he had that couple weeks after he got promoted where he didn’t strike anyone out, and for a closer even one outing without a strikeout is going to hurt you. he finished with a flurry.
he finished with a flurry
After the best AA hitters had been promoted and A+ backfill arrived?
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There's a question mark!
I am speculating!
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the one difference i can think of
is that Jansen continued to put up a K/9 of over 15 when he was in AA, while Tolleson’s dropped to around 11. I know a K/9 of 11 is still great, but just not quite a dominate as Jansen
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 28, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly what I was thinking
except Tolleson has much better control I believe
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I haven't voted yet
but I am planning on voting Garcia and his potential upside in this slot.
I wonder how many prospects we’ll have in the various top-100 prospects lists. Two?
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I’m wondering if this might be the time for a run-off vote, because if you narrow it down to (for example) Tolleson vs. Garcia, I would vote for Garcia in the runoff. I think there’s a few voters who would vote the high ceiling prospect X vs. Tolleson.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Lee and Webster, probably.
Eovaldi maybe, possibly Gould.
So basicaly, the top 4 TBLA prospects might make it.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 28, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah,
and i wouldn’t completely surprised if one of our outfielders slips into the 90’s range.
If Rubby’s still eligible, he’ll make them.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 28, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Actually I doubt he’s eligible. I keep forgetting he came up so soon.
Webster, Eovaldi, Lee I expect, and I don’t think anyone else will crack a top 100 MLB list
Gould, Pederson, Songco, Tolleson might threaten the 93-100 range on the lists.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 28, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Rubby pitched 60 MLB innings, exhausting his rookie status. I don’t think any publication would have him eligible as a prospect.
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Lee, Eovaldi, and Webster will be in there I'm sure
Gould will have a shot in the 90s or just outside the top 100.
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If Gould makes even one top 100 list consider me shocked.
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Based on BA’s mid-season list Zach Lee is going to be in the 70s, I don’t think Gould can sneak on the list without Lee’s pedigree.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
You really think he'd be that low?
I was thinking at least in the 50s, maybe better.
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He was 39 in the mid season list, didn’t give anyone a reason to move him up, and a whole bunch of new guys just entered the pool.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I agree he definitely wont move up, but I don't think he will move down more than 20 spots
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Rotowire Top 100
Lee 32
Eovaldi 92
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Why can't Tolleson's upside be Jansen?
Why would it be hawksworth, exactly?
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Just throwing out the name of any middle relief pitcher. Nolij used Nathan, so he must be thinking he’s going to be one of the top 10 relief pitchers for a 5 year period. High praise for a man who has had one dominant minor league season. . I think he’s a middle relief pitcher, who will have good and bad outings, I don’t see anything resembling Jansen here. Logan White is the only person to ever say he hits those speeds, our own Loon reporter said he was not a hard thrower and relied on his cutter. The cutter was awesome against young hitters, I just don’t see it playing against Major League hitters to the level where he’s anything more then a solid option.
And then again, there is the whole minor league relief pitcher thing and the huge odds those guys face of being something special.
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are you doubting?
Or are you in “wait and see” mode?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 9:45 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
wait and see :(
Rather than wait and see :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 9:55 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not sold on the 97 MPH
More on the insane strikeouts numbers so far coupled with very very good walk rates, which Jansen has never had. So it’s not really that he’s a hard throwing, wild k machine, it’s that he’s a k machine who won’t strike out as many (who the hell can?), but will make up for it with his walk rate and still be a very productive reliever, who might be a good set up guy in 2-3 years with any luck.
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Our top ten prospect might be a good set up guy in a few years with any luck.
Might as well get those WS rings ready, Dodgers are coming!
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
For what it's worth
I think he will be good enough a year after he makes the majors, I just don’t know when that will be which is why I gave it a few years :P
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Unless your top five prospects are starting pitchers and they all meet their ceilings. Then you are anything but screwed.
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True, but we both know the real attrition rate. If two of those five guys are good it will be a success.
Yes, just trying to look on the positive side:)
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Since no one wants to hear anything negative about these “special” players.
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I’m fine with it. It is what it is. Our system has gotten worse as we have graduated prospects and Logan’s 2011 draft was likely his worst ever.
I think it's more the delivery
than the message
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 10:00 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
If you can’t handle the delivery, get out of the batter’s box. ;-)
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Phil is like Shane Lindsay. Violent and aggressive delivery, except in Phil’s case, it’s extremely repeatable.
by G.Scott on Nov 28, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Might also come from down under.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 10:05 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m rec’ing this.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
I would have
But I’m on the app
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Right.
I like Tolleson, I love what he did, I hope he continues to progress up the charts. I just can’t vote for a guy in the top ten who has yet to see a major league hitter and is a career minor league pitcher.
I saw what Jansen could do against major league hitters. That is the difference for me.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Jansen was still a rookie after 2010; Guerra is not a rookie after 2011
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Thank You
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
No
At the time I felt Jansen was special, I think he proved he was special.
I do not think Javy is special.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
You can be negative all you want
More people would prefer to stay positive IMO.
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Kyle Russell
4-EV-AH!!!!!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 10:39 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
4 more years, 4 more years, 4 more years!
I’m not sure what the 4 years will be of though :)
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I'm not so sure about that
maybe negative people are just more vocal, but they seem to outnumber positive people.
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positive people
Just say “I believe”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 10:43 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Just want to say that if readers consider me a negative writer then they are full of shit.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Most people prefer to be realistic?
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
That’s no fun
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 11:09 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m guessing the answer is no.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
We just had a huge discussion supporting Shawn Tolleson sooooooo
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
is that a cue to break into song?
Because I missed rehearsal.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I do find it funny that when people are being optimistic, they’re called dreamers, but when someone is being optimistic, they refer to themselves as being realistic.
There are also Gloomy Guses and Eeyores. There are extremes both ways.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think we have any. Maybe one
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hard for a real one to be an actual fan of something, I suppose. You have to have glimmers of optimism to bother to root for a team at all.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
That's not what being a fan is about
Especially in freaking november and december, lol.
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Maybe you should be a gaslamp fan?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
It's more of a tongue in cheek comment
There are different levels of this. If I were voting for Kyle Russell as the number 1 prospect, clearly that would be dumb. I’m just saying let’s have some fun with believing in the upside of more than a couple of these guys, it makes it more fun if they make the majors and contribute.
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With most teams, after the 3rd prospect it’s all prayer and projction. None of them working out? Just draft another prayer next June.
Make it a Muslim prayer just to cover all bases.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I keep hearing about his slider. So if he has that as well as a decent FB and cutter, mixing those pitches well could grant him success.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 9:52 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
With more tweets from Shaikin and Fisher and co. about Fox vs. McCourt (ostensibly the "Dodgers")
anyone else just have the “Will you both SHUT UP and settle this?” reaction? I just want them both to stop the sniping so we can move on but sigh…
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Im siding with fox on this one. Mccourt needs to sell the parking lot with the team. I dont want him connected at all with the dodgers.
by Venergy on Nov 28, 2011 9:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
since when was the parking lot not part of the sale?
there is OTHER land that isn’t part of the deal.
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here we see all the land currently owned by realco in purple

so there is certainly some land that isn’t parking lot or stadium that mccourt could cling to
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The land besides the Stadium (parking lots specifically)
was separated at the time of the original purchase by McCourt and then placed into a separate entity in 2005 (MLB disputed that but since they have settled, there appears to be no agreement that McCourt has to sell that land now). Also, that land is not part of the Bankruptcy proceeding and since McCourt himself is not a party to the bankruptcy, he doesn’t have to include in the sale.
huh?
IIRC it was specifically stated that McCourts agreement to sell the team included an agreement that the sale would include the stadium and parking lot
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The entity that holds the parking lots
and what else is in the 250 acres around Dodger Stadium is not currently part of the sales process.
but the stadium ...
Will be sold with the team, right?
by Venergy on Nov 28, 2011 9:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
yes
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 9:48 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Tolleson would be my pick ...
If they converted him back to starter. He might even be my #3 or #4 if that happened.
by Venergy on Nov 28, 2011 9:36 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Why are so many people voting Tolleson
Yet no mention of Steven Ames? If you think Tolleson is the #8 prospect, then I guess Ames is your #9?
Legit Question
When I vote for Tolleson, Ames will get my next vote.
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That was a question?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 9:49 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
How are people feeling about Cole St. Clair?
He is older than both by at least 2 years, but did all his work in AA this year, though to a lesser strikeout rate than both.
http://www.minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=519312
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Once upon a time he was a stud in college.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Some NBA players who signed to play in China, like Kenyon Martin, J.R. Smith, and Wilson Chandler to name a few, might be stuck there until March, per Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo.
Might have helped to read the part of the contract that didn’t have the dollar sign.
“Wilson Chandler” sounds like a CEO who took over from his father, or an NBA lawyer, not an NBA player.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Yup. Right away the Chinese teams said they didn’t permit “out-clauses” in their contracts.
I thought Chandler was the craziest, because he signed for a fraction of what his qualifying offer would have been. The other guys have at least made some money in their careers to this point.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Also, with Chandler, he might still be a restricted free agent when he comes back! So he burns a year at a low salary, but it basically doesn’t count.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
were Martin and Smith still with Denver?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Yup. All of them played in Denver last year, but Smith and Martin would have been unrestricted free agents.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
As long as the dollar sign part is close to what they would make in the NBA this rules.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
No. 8 Dodger Prospects (per Baseball America) from 2004 - 2011
The 2004 ranking was done in December 2003.
2004 – Andy LaRoche, (Highest level played in prior season Rookie Ball)
2005 – Blake DeWitt (Rookie)
2006 – Matt Kemp (Hi A)
2007 – Blake DeWitt (AA)
2008 – Jon Meloan (AAA)
2009 – Josh Bell (Hi A)
2010 – Ivan DeJesus, Jr. (injured, few at bats in Rookie)
2011 – Kenley Jansen
One SB Nation MVP
One huge flame out
One future President
I take from this that anyone who is a 3rd base prospect will suck.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t for the life of me figure out who the future President is. Kemp could win, but I could see Ivan DeJesus Jr. becoming the first ever US President from Puerto Rico. He’s such a charmer that one.
Kenley Jansen will rule his little island some day.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
4 years ago I’d have said “Who the hell is Kenley Jansen?” followed by “Maybe if he pries it from Andruw Jones’ majestically athletic fingers”.
From all accounts, Jansen is the smartest and friendliest person on the team.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
but unlike Rubby
he doesn’t have the nickname Giggles. :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 11:17 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
PI-YAW!!!!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 11:21 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He was the dude who threw out baserunners in the WBC from his knees (Benito Santiago style)!!
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
In case anyone still wondered...
dylanohernandez Dylan Hernandez
Jonathan Broxton not returning to the #Dodgers, agent says: lat.ms/uBgty2
Didn’t expect him back. Will probably have 1 yr incentive laden deal with someone but still too cost prohibitive for a team in ownership transition that also has plenty of young arms who have already done well and others with potential.
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and more
RT @Joelsherman1: Broxton friend told me all things being equal wants to be close to Ga home. Braves unlikely, maybe Marlins/Rays make sense
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Marlins make a lot of sense. They have an up and comer in Ceda, but having Broxton on an incentive laden deal would seem to be a win for everyone.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah agree that'd be where I'd place my money.
Tampa would be better tho, then I could root for him more easily.
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That would make for one big ugly uniform.
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I would like to see Big Jon
in a uni like this:
Purportedly, big Boog said of this get up, “I look like a big red blood clot.”
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Well that’s that. Good luck Big Jon.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 10:22 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He had a good run
I really hope Kuo resigns
by NotJoeTorre on Nov 28, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Fox
I’ve been trying to think about what advantage Fox has always had as the only company allowed to negotiate for future 2013 TV rights up until November 2012, that McCourt wants the bankruptcy court to overrule to allow an auction now. What exactly would Fox be giving up?
As far as I can see, in normal times where there’s a continuity of ownership, it just nudges a team slightly towards making an agreement with the same TV company if they want to plan for an assured income stream long in advance. If they want to “test the market” by opening up rights to competitive auction, or creating their own network, they are forced to wait until just 4 months or so before the 2013 season, which wouldn’t give a new company, or the team, too much time to prepare for the first season. That’s not really much of an advantage. I can’t see that resulting in “massive damages” which Fox claims, should the case go to court. In a period when TV rights are growing quickly, any team – especially if the Dodgers currently had stable ownership – would surely count on far greater income if they kept Fox waiting until Nov 2012 and then auctioned the TV rights or created their own channel; and they wouldn’t lose much sleep over that. I would expect the court – or negotiations under arbitration – to come up with some sort of compensation to Fox for the loss of the year’s incentive. But there’s not really a great deal they’d be gaining, in the current climate, if they held onto their 2012 deadline. They’d still lose the TV rights unless they’re the highest bidder. It just moves the auctio earlier so that both McCourt and the Dodgers can get more for the team. That’s why MLB and the creditors are going along with McCourt in this, and I expect the court will too if it comes to it.
I would expect the court – or negotiations under arbitration – to come up with some sort of compensation to Fox for the loss of the year’s incentive.
Make Fox a creditor that would be paid from the settlement of the bankruptcy (the sale of the team)? I’m not so sure that’s how it works.
What Fox loses is the same hold that they had over Frank. If the new owner wanted a quick cash infusion, Fox might be willing to provide some upfront payment on a TV rights renewal, something no one else can offer under the current contract.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Insert the word “now”, where applicable.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Vote Baldwin y’all, derail the Tolleson train. Even if Baldwin completely flames out (totally likely) it’s gonna look silly when Tolleson was the 8th best prospect and he’s pitching in the Duaner Sanchez role.
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Given how much you emphasis K rates, I’m a little shocked at this proclamation
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t get excited about a reliever that was too old for his league, especially compared to a guy with an upside like Baldwin’s or Garcia.
Like you said above, if he turns into Blake Hawksworth, is it worth caring about?
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Not that part, that is a given, the Baldwin part.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
If he can’t make contact next year he’s dropping way down but for now the tools win out.
It also helps that don’t have any faith in our prospects not named Webster.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I am intrigued if a hitter who can’t make contact in the best of environments, moves up to the worse of environments, and will show progress.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Kemp did have the benefit of moving to home run city but his first year was a lot like Baldwin’s.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Not to argue but 100 K’s in 423 ab’s does not seem the same as 74 K’s in 220 something at bats.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=kemp—001mat
I’m actually not sure what you are even referring to since at age 19 he was in A ball not Rookie league ball. At age 18 during his only rookie league season he only struck out 25 times in 168 at bats. I don’t usually question you, but I’m questioning you.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I think I saw the .270 in Kemp’s line and somehow turned that into 70 strikeouts. No idea what I was reading.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Not really news
Rick Neuheisel was informed Monday he will not return as UCLA football coach next season, but will coach in the Pac-12 title game, a source told ESPN’s Joe Schad.
What is the point of announcing this before the title game on Friday?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
One final ‘win one for the gipper’ effort. Basically a last-ditch effort in desperate times.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Oregon is a 30 point favorite. That’s a lot of points to cover.
If I kne anywhere reputable to put money down, I’d have bet the farm USC would cover 13 or whatever it was against UCLA.
really? 30 points? I wonder if UCLA has ever been a 30 point underdog?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
A real college gambler would know. They remember everything.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve never once gambled on sports. You gamble on any sport at any level as a college athlete and you forfeit your eligibility, so I just never found out where to bet. I know Eric and Xeifrank have mentioned places but I can’t remember what they said.
Lifetime gamblers are a hoot in a crazy way.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a big city in the middle of the desert where you can do it.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Even then, when I went to Vegas (couple Februaries ago), walked through all the casinos on the strip, all the sports betting lounges were closed.
Was it the middle of the night? During the day, there’s always at least 4 racetracks to bet on and whatever professional/college sports are in season.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but I figured they’d have something open to take bets on sporting events for that week or so. Expecially being end of the college basketball season + NBA/NHL and all.
During the week they probably close around midnight or an hour after the last game they took bets on ends. Weekends (particularly Saturday so you can place bets on early NFL games the next day) probably around 3 a.m.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.
by G.Scott on Nov 28, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I only gamble on sports in Vegas because its something to do, and you get free drinks. Other then that I never gamble on sports, because sports is already great enough on its own, I dont need to tarnish it by gambling on it.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Never watched a horse race I have not bet on
Never watched a March Madness Game that I did not have at least a pool bet on
Every game in baseball I consider gambling because of my roto teams.
The Clippers might be the only team that I watch that I’ve never bet on
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I had a book
all throughout College up until I got married
when I got married, that just seemed to be someone I used to be
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
bodog is the only place besides vegas where i'd ever place a bet on sports
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I wonder what the line was in ’97 when 0-2 UCLA went to Austin, Texas. The Bruins were something like 16-point dogs last year when they won there.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
There has been rumors about this since October
But you won’t see an “official announcement” until after Friday’s game.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe so Neuheisel would just shut up already and stop talking about closing caps and moving needles.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Tis a shame Barkley will not get a bowl game to further showcase his talent.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
He’ll have to settle for his Emerald Bowl memories.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
No chance the guy comes back for his senior year?
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Does there need to be a point? Whats the point of UCLA even playing in the title game is the better question, IMO ofcourse.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
- rule of cheating isn’t “Don’t Cheat”, it’s “Don’t Get Caught”.
USC got caught, Matt Barkley is paying the price.
Consider how bad you have to be at cheating at college football for the NCAA to notice.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Blame Erickson, Arizona State did.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
50 – 0 seems to have made a mark
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Or is it the start to the hoops season. Has UCLA sports ever had a worse week?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Though I think they beat USC in Water Polo.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Made me LOL though...
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Ew, getting angry are we? I like it… but dont get mad at me, get mad at your program for allowing me to rag on it. I can only talk about whats real.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, I’m a USC fan and even I’m tired of your act.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I apologize then. Again, I dont know what I said that was so bad, and again I think you guys treat what I say different then others that have been here for years. But thats ok. All I said was whats the point of UCLA playing in this title game. I would think even some UCLA fans feel the same way, so not sure what I do thats so horrible.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it’s the “USC RULZ UCLA DROOLZ” type comments that are annoying (not bad or horrible)
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
maybe I should of started with good morning 1st
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe its because you guys have known eachother for a long time, and most of you even know eachother personally, so you guys dont like to rib eachother, I dont know. But I know none of you personally, and im just doing what most SC fans are doing right now, and what UCLA fans would be doing had they won 50-0. I dont see how that makes me bad? And I barely said anything on top of it.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t mind ribbing as long as you bring the funny.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
The way UCLA has been going
even a 50-0 game isn’t all that shocking. If UCLA had 8 or 9 wins, then I think it would be fun to shove it in the face of UCLA fans.
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How is 50 – 0 not shocking?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Right
Any time you get “biggest win in the series since 1930” it’s a surprise.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe shocking wasn't the best choice of words
Let’s put it this way, would anyone be surprised to see the Saints demolish the Panthers?
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Let’s put it a better way. In the long and storied history of UCLA football, have they ever lost a game by 50 points?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Yes. Now three times to USC alone: 1929, 1930, and 2011
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
and it was shocking every time:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Josie is looking up 29/30 this very moment to give us some perspective on the what nots of the era.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Cal was good in those days, after all. But that was before Pappy Waldorf and our Golden (Bear) Age.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
that was just after the Coliseum, Memorial Stadium, the Rose Bowl and Stanford Stadium opened up. It was a good time for college football
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
“Let’s build it into a hill!”
“Sure, we’ll get right…wait what? Why?”
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
you're confused
That’s the discussion for building Dodger Stadium.
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at least you can drive up to your seat at DS. Memorial is essentially a two mile uphill walk no matter where you park
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
#firstworldproblems
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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but tere aren’t any bathrooms or potable water stops for those two miles! Just a dumb little science center
i was at the getty villa
and kids were LEGIT COMPLAINING about going up and down two flights of stairs.
good god
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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You shoulda opened up a can of Roomba on their asses
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
a roomba is a vacuum?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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or whatever
that exercise you like is called. Zumba?
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Zumba :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I don't like it necessarily
I teach it
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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shaped like a frisbee
Aim for the throat
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
oh, I lead off my recap of the game with the fact that this was the biggest loss since 1930. It’s a testament to how good this series has been that you have to go back to three years after UCLA joined the Pac 10, three years after they went from Southern Campus to UCatLA, and ten years after they started playing football to find a similar defeat.
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
You are "half-right"
You are acting exactly how SC fans would be expected to act. But UCLA fans wouldn’t and don’t act the same way. IMO, of course.
Had a co-worker (and former boss) who was a big USC supporter
After the eighth straight win by UCLA over Southern Cal, I turned his office into a shrine to 8-0, including a poster-sized paper sign with a bold, black “8 – 0” on it that taped to his window facing out toward the courtyard of the building, with his desk lamp illuminating it all night.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That is hilarious.
If someone did that to me I think I would laugh and enjoy the ribbing because it is clever and original. Receiving boorish texts on Saturday night was lame and unfunny.
All fans act the same way. Im not going to buy into this SC fans, or Lakers fan act this way or that way, whatever. Winning teams all act the same. It just feels like we act a certain way when your team isnt winning. But once your team does win, you are going to act the same way so IMO enough with the stereotypes, fans are all the same.
However, unlike Southern Cal fans, I don’t make excuses when we lose.
;-)
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When UCLA beat USC a few years ago, once upon a time, in a far away land, when it knocked USC out of title contention. When I came in, this co worker had this UCLA plaque and was screaming and yelling at me UCLA OWNS THIS TOWN, etc etc. I said lets take this outside so I can fuck you up, I was pissed, and I really am not a fighter, but I take sports very serious, very personal, thats just how I was built. Anyways, our boss, who is an USC fan, seperated us right away, and we had to stay seperated all day. I forgot now why im typing this, but thats for reading!
Hahaha you literally tried to start a fight over sports.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah because the dude was getting in my face yelling, and I hate that shit. I know I talk shit on here, but im not like that in person. When I know people personally I dont rib them about there teams because I dont like how it feels when its done to me, because it really gets me angry.
He was a perfect storm of everything I hate as a fan. He was a UCLA fan, a Angel fan, and a Celtics fan… Dude was sent here on earth just to fuck with me I swear. Then my luck he worked here when Celtics won it all, but was gone by the time Lakers won it all the following season, and then the Celtics after that.
Yeah, but you tried to fight him over sports.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
I tried to fight a Braves fan over sports once
at DS.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I once strongly implied I would fight a dude in high school based on a $10 bet over sports. We did not fight.
That dude was reportedly jailed for attempted murder years later.
I am glad I did not pursue that endeavor.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
This thread is not helping Dodger fan’s reputations!
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Good, I love our reputation. I love being part of a untied fan base that takes sports as seriously as me. I love that you cant fuck with LA. Its like being in a gang, only I dont have to get jumped in!
Please don’t.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
you got me again man, you are right. Im not kidding, at all. For me, a true fan is someone willing to die for their team, die hard, you willing to die? I am.
You could attend a Dodger game and sit next to Chris for example.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
And that’s sad
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:26 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
That's insane
I’ll argue with someone, perhaps even raise my voice if it gets that far, but i’d never actually want to fight over a sports team.
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I have Irish blood, I call dibs on passion and alcoholism
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I'm half Swedish
Half everything else in Europe
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'm 3/4 Irish
I hear they put up a good soccer riot, but it doesn’t make me want to do that.
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http://www.comicbeat.com/videos/Cartoon_Videos/Soccer_Riot_-_The_Simpsons
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I’d be stunned if their was a soccer riot in Ireland. Gaelic Football or Hurling? I’d buy it. Not soccer though.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
rugby too
hurling is awesome
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Especially
if you’re a drunk Irishman
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Welsh and German!
And AMFs are awesome, I guess old people just have no taste :)
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they taste like burning and a hopeless future
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You haven't had a good one then
I had one the other night that you couldn’t taste the alcohol and it was amazing. It tasted like a more tangy gatorade.
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It tasted like a more tangy gatorade.
You say that like it’s a good thing.
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what doesn't sound good
a tangy form of my sweat.
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Those people are incredibly insane
I want none of that. Sure they are passionate, but killing or injuring people doesn’t make me think “hey, you’re an awesome fan!”
Just ridiculous over there, and the fact that people think it’s ok anywhere.
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There is more to it then that. I doubt its like hey, there is a fan of the other team, lets beat his ass. It probably just starts as shit talking, then escalates from there, to the point someone says “fuck you bitch, you want some?” and then it goes down.
No, they are basically in gangs.
NYTimes had a good article on the violence in Argentina surrounding soccer.
I don’t want to live in your reality.
You want to know what a true sports fan is? A true sports fan is one that roots for his team, but not against the other. A real sports fan knows that the most unsettling sound when the lineups are read is not boos, but silence.
At The Pit, the entire student section used to open up newspapers when they were introducing the opposing team like they were reading them.
Then, they’d crumple the papers up and throw them in the air at the end.
I think they made them stop because idiots started throwing them on the court.
Fans ruin everything
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
no way
Love that guy
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:27 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Waiting for the “I’m just kidding” reply.
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But you are also a Raider fan. That’s nothing new to you.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:17 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
not trying to start anything
I personally hate that whenever there is bad fan behavior, that person is automatically “acting like a Raider fan”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:21 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
When USC beat UCLA the years before that I never said anything. Then UCLA wins one time and he yells in my face. I guess you can say it was about sports, but dude was telling in my face. If there is one thing I hate, its yelling haha. But I do take sports serious, if that makes me crazy, so be it. Sports has been my #1 love since I was old enough to watch it, and its something I get very emotional and passionate about.
If that’s what happened, I don’t think that’s getting into a fight over sports. That’s getting into a fight because a guy is yelling in your face.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
totally acceptable
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I would run away
I fear pain
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Fink
For whatever reason this word does not get used enough.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
dammit Phil, I'm trying
But I’m only one man!!!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:56 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
it might have something to do with the fact
that its hard to tell if you are serious or a parody or what.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I get behind anyone that wins… winning is the bottom line. I dont know any of these people personally so what do I care how they act? Im just a fan that wants to see his team win, at all costs.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think the horrible things Jerry Sandusky was doing
helped the team win.
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angst is a powerful motivator
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Says the Clipper fan while DTS waves hello
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
different levels of rationalization
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
They absolutely deserve to be in the title game; they were had the best record in conference of the eligible teams in their division.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
right, it’s not UCLA’s fault that USC got sanctioned, ASU completely fell apart, Utah couldn’t beat Colorado, and Arizona fired their coach mid-season.
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Also, I never said they dont deserve to be in the title game… did I say that? What I said was whats the point?
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
The conference needs a champ?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 11:25 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
How else to take this excerpt?
Whats the point of UCLA even playing in the title game is the better question, IMO ofcourse.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Still
if anyone other then USC Chris says this no one gives a shit. I think Craig owes him an apology. Chris is annoying but not shut the fuck up annoying. If anyone other then Craig had said this to our regulars we’d have said something.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Otherwise people will start telling me to shut the fuck up everyday so we don’t want to start a trend where annoying commentators are told to shut the fuck up.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Oh shut the fuck up.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Maddz is so pissed right now
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I think the word you’re looking for is “pleased”
MIKE WHITE, YOUR TIME IS NIGH
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My mistake, I got the feeling you always wanted to be first.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I dont want any apology Phil but thats for agreeing that I get singled out for no reason. I talk shit, thats me, im going to rub you a little bit. Im not gonna go overboard about it, im not going to insult you personally, but when USC beats UCLA im going to say something. It goes with the territory, doesnt it?
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
If you say your an USC fan and you dont take a few shots at UCLA, then I’d have to question what kind of USC fan you are, but dont be questioning me, im in the majority haha.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Its not for no reason
you do get singled out, but to say its for no reason shows a shocking lack of self awareness.
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Changing subject, sorry about the QB injuries
that sucks, bad luck for Kubes :(
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Oookay... I admire your boundless optimism!
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heh
we still have the 3rd ranked rushing offense and the top ranked defense. Too soon to panic :)
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Definitely. They *should* still make playoffs...
question is who will be qb’ing them then and if that will be enough to keep them competitive for a run…
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Im not saying they dont deserve to be in the title game because obviously there in it, and thats the rules. Im saying whats the point because they have no chance, none, nada, its gonna be brutal so whats the point of even playing in it?? But ofcourse they are going to play in it anyways, and who knows, maybe they shock the world…Probably wouldnt be the biggest upset ever, or maybe it would I dont know.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
isn't that was USC fans said when they lost to UCLA a few years back
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
and
………………
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Didn't a 15 seed beat a 2 seed in the tourney this year for college basketball?
Crazy stuff happens, just not very often.
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right, thats why I said who knows, maybe they shock the world. But until that happens, nobody in their right mind could believe UCLA even has a little bit of a shot. But we’ll see.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
There not going to win. I just said that to calm the UCLA fans down, and to try and make nice. Its not gonna happen.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
stick to your guns man. At least be disliked for being you. You don’t need to sugarcoat anything for people here. I don’t like you, but I think you’re funny sometimes so I ignore the stuff I disagree with. Or try to.
yeah, but that sucks, you dont like me, others dont like me, yet none of you even know me. I’d bet money if you guys knew me personally, you would like me. I promise that, but thats ok man. I forgive you for not liking me haha
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
At 6’6 you are to big to like. You need to chop off your feet.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Thats why people like me, im a big lovable teddy bear. You guys only see the internet side of me, the sports side that im very passionate about, but in person, im way different, and shy haha
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Im too big these days, im talkin 6’6 300… having a kid made me fat haha….. If you guys play a TBLA football game, id probably be better at that. Then you guys can take out your agression and dog pile me haha
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I CALL FIRST
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
see
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I have a question in to him about how sign-ups look.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to call you a big lovable Teddy Bear.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
You’ve yet to give me a reason not to like you.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 12:23 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He loves Dr Pepper
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody’s perfect
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 12:36 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
who me?? Hell nah I dont like Dr Pepper… Id drink it if that was available though.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
The 2001 Diamondbacks, 2003 Marlins, 2005 White Sox, 2006 Cardinals, 2010 Giants and 2011 Cardinals should all have just stayed home.
They lost 50 – 0 the week before:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Was there really a favorite in the 05 WS?
I figured them to be pretty even myself, though I don’t know fully.
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The 05 White Sox lost something like 30 of their last 33 games (not really) and almost blew their enormous division lead to Cleveland. I guess that’s the comp for getting blown out right before their elimination games.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Then went on a Rockies-like winning run, only they were able to finish it off
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
the Pac 12 south is just awful with USC not being eligible
Man, if they were, they’d have a shot to be maybe 6th or 7th ranked with another win against Oregon in that position too.
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UCLA - we stuck up the Coliseum
I thought 49-14 or whatever it was back in my day (1979) was the worst I’d ever see. 50 – 0 feels like completely quitting. Nonetheless, you play the title game because anything could happen. I expect to see Oregon roll up a lot of points and UCLA not to be shut out. It will suck. Again.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
UCLA already knows what that feels like from Saturday.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
It may mean nothing, but the last Boise coach who got pulled away was Hawkins who ushered in the hard and extreme decline for Colorado. Peterson came in and even improved on Hawkins success.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I may be confusing my Colorado coaches, but was Hawkins also the coach who called his female kicker “terrible” in one of the best sound bites ever?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
No that was Barnett
Hawkins was the guy who flipped out at a press conference and said “this is the Big 12, if you don’t like it play intramurals brotha” like Hulk Hogan
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Awesome
Thanks. Now I have two great coach quotes stuck in my head.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
The greatest football quote of all time
A writer asked Ken Stabler what he thought of this Jack London quote: ""I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather than my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot. I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. The function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them. I shall use my time."
Stabler replied “Throw deep.”
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Great story but I question that any writer ever used so many words in a question to an athlete.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I can imagine the eye rolling from the other reporters as that question was asked.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Long live The Snake.
*Fuck you Jake Plummer
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m starting to question how much I hated the Raiders considering how many Raiders I loved to watch play the game.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
The Mad Stork comes immediately to mind.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 28, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
YES
I was a huge Chiefs fan, but I remember both teams. The Raiders always had the characters like Davidson, Stabler, Belintnikoff, Casper, Alzado, Hendricks,
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
For the record I never liked calling Plummer that...
though I did like Jake Plummer. Too bad his last name wasn’t Plissken, however.
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Speaking of great coach quotes
This from the Sooners’ beat writer for The Oklahoman:
OSU’s Mike Gundy just said if he had a vote in coaches poll, he’d have Bama 2nd and OSU 3rd.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Mack Brown doesn’t agree with that approach
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
FUCK YOU, MACK BROWN!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I mean, sure I hate Cal now, but back then, I was completely floored by the bullshit that saw Texas in the Rose Bowl and Cal, not.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
two years in a row now
Stanford has failed
failed
failed to beat Oregon, and benefitted from the rule that’s only in place because of Cal failing
failing
failing to beat USC.
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
oh yay, we’ve turned this back into a Cal/Stanford thing
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Then I will reiterate
FUCK YOU, MACK BROWN
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Stanford failed to beat Oregon in 2010 and 2011
Cal failed to beat USC in 2004 (and other years)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
the Cal loss, resulted in a new rule, that Stanford has been the first Pac school to take advantage of, two years in a row now.
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
The top 4 rule? Wasn’t that in place at the time? Because it’s not like the Rose Bowl chose to take Texas over Cal. They were forced to do it.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
this is gonna go down as Josie fact, but I remember hearing a lot last year that there was a rule change after the Mack Brown thing in 04
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I see how the prose in that comment works now.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
After Hawkins failed, a few articles were written on coaches transitioning from mid-major schools at the top of their game to small fish big pond programs like Colorado and UCLA. There was an argument that these guys are excellent in recruiting in niche markets but that doesn’t work out when they go to a bigger program.
Of course, then Urban Meyer went to Florida a won a few national championships, so who knows.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Frank Beamer needed five years at Va Tech after Murray State, and only kept his job after totally scrapping his defensive scheme.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
710 espn is sold that UCLA should hire Herm Edwards
Aahahahah
by Julio Nievas on Nov 28, 2011 11:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
that took awhile to decipher
I’m not sure if I should be dissapointed in myself or not
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Didn’t that happen awhile ago? Or was that a DFA? So this means he cleared waivers, but wasn’t outrighted?
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he was DFA’d, then cleared waivers, and was released today.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
My source for this is “someone on a message board” but in the new CBA if you don’t spend money in one round you can’t use that money later in the draft. Hard slotting.
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I thought that is the opposite of what I read from the reputable sources, but my memory may have been altered over the long w/e.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
dumbshit off topic question
if tomato paste is double concentrated, should i halve the amount called for?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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are you saying you have double concentrated tomato paste
or that all tomato paste is double concentrated
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Honestly the thing to do is start with half, and keep adding more until it stops tasting better.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Cooks Illustrated did a test
and found no real difference in flavor between double or single concentrate, but you should do to taste. Also, I buy the tomato paste in a tube that you can refrigerate since you rarely need more than a tablespoon or two in any recipe.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
sounds good. making chili.
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I have the day off and that sounds like a fantastic idea if I ever leave bed.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
sriracha con carne. get at me
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letting it cook on high for an hour
and then low for the rest of the day so G can have a surprise waiting for him when he gets home
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Wouldn't it be easier to order a pizza
and toss Koufax at him when he opens the door?
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I may have thrown the cat at him the other night when he kicked me in the head
Koufax is getting big
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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when he kicked me in the head
So many questions
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
he was just trying to get your attention. he doesn’t go near the lamp when I’m home
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I LIKE THAT LAMP.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
do you really like the lamp?
Or is it just the first thing you saw?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:07 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
hahaha
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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no I really like the lamp
and we can just, oh, I dunno…TURN THE LAMP so that the ripped part is facing away.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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i like the lamp too. I didn’t want to do this, but I think I’m investing in a squirt bottle for anytime he goes near it. It’s the only thing in the house he can truly destroy.
dude I'm serious
he just wants your attention. he’s also a baby.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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A real loud HEY doesn’t work?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 1:10 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
you gotta yelp, bang your hand on the table.
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
yelled his name, banged the floor with my hand, grabbed him away from it and oved him across the room. I got nothing
my dogs
go suddenly deaf whenever I yell at them
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Is it really necessary to try everything in the Kama Sutra?
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Where bhsportsguy was born
I created the screen name on the Scout UCLA subscription site, it really means nothing but that is where it was created about 9 years ago.
My last comment re the whole coaching situation:
1. It should go without saying that no one cheers someone being fired but Rick had to go now. UCLA was getting heat and more ridicule as the week went on, Rick was a lame duck coach.
2. Personally, I like Rick, he is very engaging and he certainly is a Bruin. What he wasn’t was a risk taker coach, perhaps he tried to hard to change his persona from his Colorado and Washington days but it didn’t work here. I am sure he will go on to do good things in his life and wish him well.
3. Tired of hearing tweets from players re not hearing about Rick’s firing before press release, yes that is unfortunate but in the end, they need to take stock of themselves and see how much they played into their coach’s dismissal.
4. Will hope that we have a transparent search for the new coach, Dan Guerrero knows baseball, know 3 strikes means you are out. Well Dan, you are facing an 0-2 count, you’re best bet is to swing for the fences on this pitch.
Who is available that you’d want or is realistic in bringing to UCLA?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Is there a rumor about Herm Edwards becoming coach? I’d like that as a UCLA fan IMO.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
That would be a very terrible hire
by Julio Nievas on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I can say from what I know
he is not in the mix.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Tracy says Peterson has a great shot.
Sounds reasonable, but cant see it happening
by Julio Nievas on Nov 28, 2011 12:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I could of sworn on the radio last week they were saying Herm Edwards for UCLA coach. But he was on some 710am show so maybe they were joking… other name is Leech…. IMO Guerrero needs to go too. Get a new AD, then look for a bright mind, someone who hasnt been a HC yet but is close. They need to find that next gem HC, because I assume they dont have the money to bring in a top tier proven one.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Only thing worse then losing to USC 50 – 0 is having to listen to USC fans giving advice to UCLA on how they need to run their athletic department.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Free housing (good)
Handicapped parking (bad)
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
That always works, but if they cant pay the money it takes for a top tier proven CFB coach, not sure what they could offer their players.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
an education?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
players dont want no edjamacation, they want to play in the NFL!
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
haha, we know how to win, you should listen more often, both as a UCLA fan, and Clipper fan.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Would have been fun to know you before the Carroll era.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Chris was sitting on his stoop, drinking a 40 of Mickey’s, thinking “man, if they would just give that big running back spect a Hummer, we’d be unstoppable”.
Come on guys, its cool, but we all know SC did nothing wrong. It was an agent that had no SC ties that gave Bush’s family money, what can SC do? nothing, and so here we are.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
They could have cooperated with the investigation, then possibly self sanctioned, and the NCAA penalties likely would have been less harsh.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
and that basketball coach
and pete watching one of his players drive around in an escalade. Yep, nothing to see there.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
haha come on, cant watch over 100 players or whatever… Only Jesus can do that.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
it literally happened in front of him
its on video. Literally.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
To be fair, he wasn’t wearing his jersey at the time.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I know, and I’d probably have heard everything im saying now, back in the 90s. Thats my point. I’m just giving back what I was given in the 90s, what goes around, comes around. Its all in fun… Im sure it will come back around to me again some day.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
maybe by 2030, when players are robots.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
If you didn’t live it, you don’t get to give it back. I took it in the late 70s/early 80s, I gave it when we won 8 in a row, I’ll take it now while we suck.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
With the new Pac-12
TV deal, there is less of a financial advantage USC and Oregon have over the other schools. Starting in 2012, each school will receive over $18M/year for the next 12 years. Currently they receive around $6M.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
You do know that saying something wishfully on AM sportstalk is different than someone being a legit
possibility… ;)
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I am loathe to bring up names
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But ask me later.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
No more former UCLA QBs I assume...
I know Tommy Maddox and Tom Ramsey aren’t too busy these days… Aikman is. Mark Harmon could be a good recruiter but he’s busy. ;)
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Not were, are. They will celebrate 25 years during Spring Training.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Things he says in bed; "This is Mark calling Orson."
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Why not The Castle? Much closer to you.
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short of a machine throwing real baseballs, cages are for dates. Yellow baseballs only let you work on timing one pitch speed, which is only good if you’re working on your mechanics, and if you only need to work on your mechanics you need to use a tee. My main issue is pitch recognition, so I go to World Series so I can use their open cage with an L screen and have someone throw me BP
their open cage with an L screen and have someone throw me BP
I didn’t know they had that.
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kind of expensive though. $32 for an hour. They provide the baseballs, bats and helmets, though the balls are pretty worn and kind of soft at this point.
This is kind of awesome, do they throw 93 and straight if you ask them?
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you gotta bring someone to pitch
I can hook you up with a cage where you can rent the pitcher too
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Pitchers should always be rented, never bought.
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if it floats, fucks, flies, or pitches I am renting
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
How much would it cost
me to have the pitcher knock you down?
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
YES!
across the street from the a fore mentioned Casa di Pizza
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Grand Slam. Haven’t been there since little league. I vividly remember playing Street Figther II at the arcade there.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Shit, that’s right. Grand Slam must have been the one near the Van Nuys airport.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
On 3., you are dead on. The players should STFU and look to themselves and ask how they put up a 0-50 performance against their city rivals. The way they played sure made it seem like they didn’t care who was on the coaching staff.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Even though I root for UCLA over every other Pac 12 team, I’d hate to see UCLA win this game and go to the Rose Bowl.
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I want them to go to
and then win the rose bowl. TRADITION.
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I was about to ask this question. Does UCLA get the automatic bid to the rose bowl if the beat Oregon?
B O B
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I get you’re making a joke, but they’ve broken from tradition in order to go this semi-finals thing in the Big Ten and Pac 12 to appease people who need playoffs. If tradition held, Oregon would simply go to the Rose Bowl.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
heh
well, I’m cool with individual conferences doing their thing tradition wise. What I hate is the BCS acting like they are the best bowl games but then having #7 play #23 or stupid shit like that in the name of tradition. I want to watch 1 play 2, 3 play 4, etc if I’m not going to get a proper national playoff. I don’t need conference playoffs.
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Actually you could be on to something here… Maybe if UCLA wins, and a 7-6 team makes a major BCS bowl, maybe they’ll do away with BCS and bring on the playoffs!! or maybe not.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
In 1984
a six-win UCLA team went to the Rose Bowl and kicked major Big-10 ass.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
’83, and they were 6-1-1 in conference, 7-4-1 overall.
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
which would, yeah, be the 84 Rose Bowl
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I knew you would get there:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Cal people may not be the brightest but they are tenacious:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
JOSIE
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
PHIL!
It’s confusing cause they’re the ’83 Pac10 champs playing in the ’84 Rose Bowl. UCLA was ever better in 84 with 9 wins, but there was the old no repeat clause so they went to the Fiesta Bowl. Yeaha!
by Josie Becker on Nov 28, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
We rarely got to invoke the old repeat clause:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Lots of good stuff here
http://loons.milbauctions.com/gallery.cfm
I’m going for the Roman Pena game worn jacket
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 28, 2011 11:50 AM PST reply actions
oh wow i didn't relize there were multiple pages
I’m now going for the Gary Ingram game worn BP jersey
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 28, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Without clearly stating it
This article is basically calling Ned Colletti the biggest joke amongst baseball GMs.
by BFDC on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
My dander is up
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Is there an SABR way to rate managers and or GMs yet? If not, they should work on that next.
by uschris0304 on Nov 28, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Frank Wren is in contention. Dayton Moore is still the champ, but there’s not much floor below Ned now.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Grant has Wren in the “highly regarded” category. I’m guessing for the bang-up job he did signing Rafael Furcal three years ago.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I did forget about Edgar Renteria for Jair Jurjenns, but Yunel Escobar for Alex Gonzalez, Kyle Farnsworth and Rick Ankiel makes it easy to forget.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Kyle Farnsworth is awesome and I wish he was a Dodger.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Hah hah. I got that. :)
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Because Ed Wade was fired?
I don’t know. Ned is mediocre and not great but I don’t see how he’s a joke, really. So much mediocrity among GMs…
At any rate, that joke won’t be our joke next year.
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The Ed Wade firing really hurts
the Phillies.
by OB12 on Nov 28, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I made a dinner last night that might have killed HJ.
1. Paul Newman Sauce
2. Added water
3. Frozen Meatballs from Costco
4. Used Macaroni
It was delicious.
If I had standards I wouldn’t hang around here.
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The term “used macaroni” requires further explanation.
Reheated noodles from earlier in the week/weekend?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
ha
I meant I used Macaroni as the pasta because I found I had nothing else.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I have had my share of jarred sauces
Paul Newman’s isn’t bad, simmer it, add some spices and herbs and it is okay.
Frozen meatballs don’t bother me that much.
Now if you had bought pre-made Garlic bread, well..
Mrs HJ made a great sweet potato pie for Thanksgiving – props to her.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
An Eric party food staple
(aka what can the lazy man bring)…
Crock pot, filled with frozen meatballs, and equal parts cocktail sauce and grape jelly mixed together.
The result: goodness.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve had that using weiners instead of meatballs.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Both together is just out of hand.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Okay
cocktail sauce and grape jelly, that is something I may not want to know what the hell I am eating.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Right
it is the Dan Uggla of appetisers
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
it sounds horrible
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I’ve done this before, it is good stuff. Add a little spicy mustard sometimes to give it a little kick.
I will have to try that next time I make it.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 28, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
What I would do
is throw in the paul newman, heat it up.
In another pan, add some beef and sausage, some peppers and onions, tomato paste, canned tomoatos, a few spices and heat that up.
Then throw away the Paul Newman sauce
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Nov 28, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The Saturday Turkey was OFF THE HOOK (do the kids still say that?)
best damn turkey sandwich ever last night
Mrs HJ is making Turkey Pot Pie for me tonight – and making us a ton of stock – am a lucky fella
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t have enough leftover turkey this year for turkey enchiladas.
Had to settle for the regular chicken enchiladas instead. Oh well.
Still delicious, and the chile was hot enough to make my nose run. So good.
The only, ONLY time I miss New Mexico is when someone talks about the enchiladas and the spiciness of the sauce. Nothing quite like New Mexico chiles.
Two words
Sopa. Pillas.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Is she using the same pie crust recipe that she used for the Sweet Potato pie
or just the puff pastry method?
No one cares what Humma thinks, but when you disappoint HJ, a little bit of you dies.
Probably those dead skin cells you remove when you shower.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re name was Phillipo Guernio I would be mighty disappointed….
but being a Gurnee, I just shrug and say to each his own
I am sure my non-italian ethnic food might not be up to standards for those cultures – even if I don’t dis-respect the cuisine totally by using premade jars of shit, er food
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
No ChungKing Chicken Chow Mein from a can for you, eh?
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Word on the street is that your foot might make for a mean pozoles.
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Con Pata FTW
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Dude who started that company just croaked
a white guy from Minnesota. So, you gotta question the authenticity of the chinese fare
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
And yet
Chef Boyardee (Ettore Boiardi) was really from Italy!
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Funny, because I started to type “LaChoy”, then switched to “ChungKing” because I liked the sound better.
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I bought a cast iron skillet
so far i’ve cooked bacon and more bacon on it
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Do not piss off your wife. More husbands are killed with a cast iron skillet then any other instrument of death.
/josiephact
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
dude the thing weighs 15 pounds
no way my wife can swing that thing at me. Maybe drop it on my head in my sleep…
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I know you know
but season that skillet well and never wash with water. (Though I have heard different things about that)
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I love the phact there are skillets in Keith’s neck of the woods that have 100 years of food cooking into that cast iron skillet with nary a touch of water cleaning it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
okay, I tried to google this last week. What exactly is the process for th because we did this:
cooked sriracha cornbread
washed with water
olive oil + 1hr at 350°
how do I clean it after I use it? do Iclean it?
wipe it down with a paper towl
you don’t have to season it every time you cook with it, but some people recommend giving it a little bit of oil coating I believe
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you can use
course salt to scrub the pan and then wipe out with a paper towel. I have used a little water to get the salt out but yes no soaking the pan in soap and water.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
put a little oil in it – turn the heat to high – turn on the fans above the stove
cook all that stuff black, wipe off with paper towel
also firm brushes work
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was don't wash with soap
and just make sure not to soak with water for more then like a minute or 2 to prevent rust.
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My rule
water is fine, but never use soap. Then dry it by putting it on the stove under a small flame. Then oil it before putting it away
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I mentioned dutch ovens to my boss and he looks at me
and says, “I only know the kind that [my wife] doesn’t like.”
I laughed for 5 minutes straight.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Nov 28, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t use soap
sometimes Mrs HJ gets too grossed out and soaps it up and I have months of seasoning to do
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
shit doesn’t like eating the neck or organs that come stuffed in the bird either
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
shit?
lul
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I'm bored in a meeting
and laughed at this. Now people are looking at me
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I am also lucky that my wife could not pick it up.
The other benefit of a cast iron skillet is that when she tries to shoot you, you can use it as a bullet defender.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Verdell has a lot less distance to cover to hit her partner with her swing than Maddz and Mrs. Nolander do to hit theirs. Youre safe, but not THAT safe :)
living with a taller person blows
I had to jump to try and get at the crock pot today
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Jumping around the apartment seemed like the better choice at the time.
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There’s a rabbit loose
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It’s a good thing the rabbit didn’t die.
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I’m racking my brain, but can’t figure out how in the bedroom to make use of a crock pot.
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i have my eye on this(but assembled the proper chicago way)
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The one thing about
deep dish pizza dough is that it is a little sweet.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Season that bitch
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Its tech preseasoned
but I might give it another seasoning tonight just in case
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mine was too
but I seasoned anyway, based on internet recs. I oiled it and put it in a 500 degree oven, then wiped out the ash.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
its kinda why i've been baconing it
but yeah better safe then sorry
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Why add water?
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, I’m glad you asked. I wanted more sauce and I was feeling very lazy. I put a bit of water in the jar and shake it all up so I get every last bit of sauce.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
And Phil
could have added a little tomato paste to boost the flavor.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
If only he had used the Pantry Thread:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 28, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
no comment is sometimes the best comment
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Where is keith? respect for him at an all-time high. He watched an entire argentine league game last night.
Sleeping it off, apparently.
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
K/9
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 12:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Because the more accurate Jon Meloan comp is depressing.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Oh me too. “He has 1.5 times more strikeouts than runners allowed how can he fail?”
This is why I have no faith in relievers with gaudy stats and questionable scouting reports.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t word start to get out that Meloan had a “ten cent head”?
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I am officially ready to hear Bruce Springstreen and the E Street Band sing Santa Claus Is Coming To Town now.
“Red man!”
Kemp's mom is trollin'
@dodger27mom: @TheRealMattKemp wow you are behind! Already done w chest and bi’s plus 1.5 hrs cardio. Why you so slow?
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no
it’s trolling when your mom is like “Why are you being a punk ass and not working out?” Being a mom is like, “Y U NO CLEAN UR ROOM?!”
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Or
What U doing in the bathroom that takes so long?
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
DON’T YOU KNOW YOU CAN GO BLIND?!
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What’s funny is that it was preparing the feathered, layered, blow-dried disco hair style that took so long for this teenage boy.
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After all these years
you’re still sticking to that story?
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Absolutely
The other thing took seconds.
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Moment of silence for Mrs Young
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A long time ago
at another job, I walked in the men’s room and could hear someone in the stall obviously rubbing one out. It was weird
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and now it’s weird for everyone
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A long time ago
I walked into a work men’s room at a late-ish hour, and there that kind of sound, plus I could see a “men’s” magazine laying on the floor in the stall. Definitely weird.
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at least it wasn’t muscle and fitness on the floor
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
So you can walk by in the parking lot and catch him buffing the bishop?
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Spit shining the helmet
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
You know what was awkward a little later? Marty’s downcast eyes checking out all the dudes’ footwear.
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Ha!
I pretty much knew who it was, but the shoes confirmed it.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and what kind of shoes does Plaschke wear?
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That would have been awesome
This was at another paper before I got to the Times
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Unscientific prospect rankings
I just bought a box of 2011 Topps Heritage Minor League. There are 200 cards in the set, and there are 8 Dodgers:
Gould, Lee, Webster, Eovaldi, Withrow, Russell, BCG and Lemmerman.
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Speaking of Lemmerman, wasn’t he the apple in everyone’s eye last year at this time after he destroyed the easiest league to hit in professional baseball?
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He was 16th in last year’s poll.
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I still like him
Not great numbers, but solid. I know Gscott’s ripped me for talking about how solid prospects don’t end up good, but I do think Lemmerman will be a major leaguer in just a year or so.
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This video of two newlywed virgins kissing is hilarious, horrific and impossible to turn away from all at once.
They look like two goldfish trying to eat the same morsel of food.
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Hearing some Peterson to UCLA rumors
Obviously this is speculation because it would be horrific timing to announce such a thing, but wow if true. He’s one of the greatest minds in college football and would impact the football team right away. Also, if Sumlin goes to ASU, watch out for the PAC
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Sucks if true, Wulff was turning it around
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I'll bet
Donahue is a rumor
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I always thought Troy Donahue was a confused name
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 28, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty crazy the Cubs are shopping Garza already
That team is so fucked
I thought they might try to make a run to hype Theo but I guess that’s hard when the best player in your organization is Starlin Castro.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Theo knows the Reds, Brewers, and Cards will be better next season
He should trade Garza to the Reds
Yea their system is a barren wasteland. Obviously that is why they feel the need to trade Garza. Wish we could get him.
They want OFs?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 2:09 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I would guess they want pitching, but no matter what I would assume they need at least one “A” prospect.
They didn’t give up an A prospect when they got him from the Rays.
Traded by the Tampa Bay Rays with Zach Rosscup (minors) and Fernando Perez to the Chicago Cubs for Chris Archer (minors), Hak-Ju Lee (minors), Robinson Chirinos, Sam Fuld and Brandon Guyer.
Hak-Ju Lee is moving up but not when they traded him. Same with Archer.
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Archer was BA’s number 27 prospect. It’s not an A prospect in the Sickels sense but it’s close.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
I’d say he’s a level below Archer. There isn’t any real difference between 27 and 60 something but perception wise it’s the difference between a B+ and a B.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
huh huh huh huh head count huh huh huh huh
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by David Young on Nov 28, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I assume there are at least two in these very comments.
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Was supposed to have plans, plans got canceled, so I used the opportunity to drink a bunch of egg nog, vodka, and red bull. This got me violent so I had to go walk it off, came back an hour later, everyone was gone, I was bored and chatty so I started talking to the first person I saw online.
We’re celebrating our two year anniversary in a month.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks!
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
You know the story
I met a girl on FB, took her on our first date to an angel game because she didn’t like the Dodgers then. Ended up dating her for close to 11 months.
I think most people probably feel like it’s weird to meet someone online and develop a real relationship, but it happens. My sister met her current bf about 2 to 3 years ago I think on FB, 2 aprils ago she moved to new jersey and have been living together since. I’ve actually never seen her more happy.
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I didnt even know you meet people on FB… I thought its people you already know…. So you were trolling people you dont know on FB?
I think alot of people internet date now, and its socially accepted these days. It was considered weird in the beginning, when people were meeting off AOL. You would most likely get made fun of. But not today.
I'm not sure how you view internet dating
But I actually stayed at her house every weekend, as she lived in orange county (I live in ventura county).
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I met her on some stupid app on there
and we just started texting and talking on the phone, and it went from there.
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all the cool people did their internet chatting on irc
or so I tried to convince myself when I was 16
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 28, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
What is this cyber monday? is this new? So Black Friday, Small Business Saturday, Cyber Monday, what was sunday then?
Cyber Monday has been around for a good decade new
as for small business saturday this is the first year I heard of it
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It’s official: Urban Meyer to Ohio State.
Dude was winning there, all of a sudden leaves because he is sick or wants to spend more time with his family, then a year later takes another job. Maybe he wasnt getting paid enough?
Maybe spending more time with his family meant spending less time with hookers? Or maybe spending more time with his family meant he learned that while he was coaching his kids became dicks? Or maybe spending more time with his family meant he had to go to whole mess of social functions that he used to be able to duck because he was busy being the best college coach in football
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so should i end the voting and award Tolleson #8?
he has 17 votes, and everyone else combined has 19 (baldwin – 7, Fedex – 5, Songco, Sanchez, Garcia – 2, Van Slyke – 1)
i doubt the “other” group of 19 would all be able to agree on somebody to beat out Tolleson, so should I just award it to Tolleson at this point or should i let it play out?
I would let it play out and if Tolleson still wins then I would use your powers as a blogger to rule that our number 8 prospect can’t be a minor league reliever.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
And the other 19 shouldn’t have to agree on somebody for that other player to be considered a better prospect by the voters. As of now, the people who don’t want to vote on a reliever are splitting the vote between a bunch of guys. If you did a runoff between Baldwin and Tolleson, I think it would be quite close.
by Michael White on Nov 28, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I would bet we could get 18 of the 19 to band behind one position player to defeat the reliever. And then the Sanchez voter would flop to Tolleson to tie it all up.
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FedEx is now upto six
now that Canuck weighed in.
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by regfairfield on Nov 28, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
super, duper
serial
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 28, 2011 2:30 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think losing to Alaska-Anchorage is our biggest achievment personally
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by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 28, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I made a new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/11/28/2593344/2012-tbla-9-dodger-prospect-discussion
mostly as a comment refresher, but it also serves as the #9 prospect discussion since we ended #8 early with Tolleson as the winner

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