2011 Rancho Cucamonga Quakes Minor League Season in Review
The newest Dodger affiliate, the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes, are up next in my minor league review series. After spending 10 years as a minor league team for the Angels, the Dodgers swooped in and grabbed the franchise last winter thus ending their relationship with the Inland Empire 66ers. The Quakes' stadium, called the Epicenter, is just a stones throw away from Dodger Stadium and is a definite upgrade over Arrowhead Credit Union Park (home of the 66ers). I attended a handful of games this past season and had a great experience both in the stands and in the press box. The team was also fun to watch as they were one of the best teams in the California League all Summer long.
Record: 80 - 60 (38 - 32 First Half, 42 - 28 Second Half)
Season Result: The Quakes won the California South Division in both the 1st and 2nd Half, earned a 1st round playoff bye, but then lost in the 2nd round (semi-finals) to eventual league champion Lake Elsinore Storm.
Season Recap: The Quakes were a very good ball-club in 2011. Even though Rancho only won one playoff game in 2011, the team can still look back on their great regular season which saw them win their division with ease in both the 1st and 2nd half. This was mostly due to a strong offense and an efficient pitching staff that got the job done. Overall the Quakes posted the second best winning % in the California League and played especially well at home.
In terms of team stats, the Quakes led the league with their .287 average and their 153 HR's were just 5 behind the top ranking High Desert Mavericks. While they didn't show a lot of speed (their 107 SB's was second worst), they can brag about leading the circuit in OB% (.362), SLG% (.455), and OPS (.816). Team pitching was also pretty good as Rancho's 4.55 ERA was 3rd overall. Their 1,180 K's were also ranked 3rd and was just 4 strikeouts behind the league leader. One negative is the staff's 576 walks was 2nd worst of the 10 teams.
Offensive MVP: Angelo Songco ran away with the offensive MVP award thanks to a monster season at the plate. The outfielder turned 1st baseman led the Quakes in several offensive categories (runs, HR's, 2B's, SLG%, OPS), and also paced the entire California League with 310 total bases. Songco also ranked 2nd in the league with his 29 HR's and 114 RBI's, while his .948 OPS placed 4th. In addition, the recently turned 23 year old wasn't a big swing and miss guy as he struck out in a respectable 20.6% of his plate appearances. Overall, it was simply a great year for Songco.
Best Offensive Prospect: Both Baseball America and myself had Angelo Songco ranked behind Blake Smith and Jake Lemmerman heading into the 2011 season, but the outstanding season described above by Songco has helped him move ahead of both those players to claim the title of the Quakes best offensive prospect. I'm still not sure exactly where I'm going to rank Songco overall, but he definitely showed he deserves at least some consideration as a top 10 Dodger prospect.
Pitching MVP: Jon Michael Redding had a disappointing season for the Quakes in 2010, but he got a redo in 2011 and lowered his ERA by almost 2 runs while increasing his K/9 by more than 3 to earn the Pitching MVP honors. Always considered a workhorse, Redding logged 137.2 innings along with a team high 130 punchouts. The 23 year old also had a solid WHIP of 1.34 and a FIP of 3.54, and batters hit a career low .250 against him. A potential sleeper who might one day work his way into the back of the Dodgers rotation, Redding possesses a low 90’s fastball which is complimented by a good slider and a hard curveball.
Best Pitching Prospect: Allen Webster only stuck around for 9 starts, but that was long enough to be named the best pitching prospect on the Quakes. Webster had a 2.33 ERA and a 10.3 K/9 in the hitter's paradise of the California League, and while he struggled a bit after his promotion to AA he still remains as one of the Dodgers top pitching prospects. Baseball America ranked him as the 8th best prospect in the California League, and said "Webster's best pitch is a 90-95 mph fastball with heavy sinking action. He complements his fastball with a plus changeup that also has a lot of downward movement. He also has a solid curveball with some bite, but he didn't throw it often in the Cal League because his other two pitches were so effective. "
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Other Notable Players and Prospects: Before I get into the position by position breakdown, I wanted to highlight a few more players on the team who either had a great season and/or have the potential to turn into a legitimate Dodger prospect. This way, the more notable players don't get lost in all the detail below.
Blake Smith - OF - Despite missing a significant chunk of the season due to sports hernia surgery, Smith ranked 3rd on the team with 16 homers and recorded a ridiculous 13 outfield assists with his cannon arm in right field. The 23 year old also posted an OPS just under .900 for the Quakes and hit .294. He's currently playing some winter ball in Panama and should be all set for AA next season.
JT Wise - C - Wise, who split his time between catcher, 1st base, and DH, put together a very good season for Rancho in 2011 with 17 homers and .887 OPS. He also played solid defense behind the plate with a .990 fielding percentage and a 36% caught stealing rate. That being said the 25 year old was only the second best catching prospect on the team and was left in HiA all season while Griff Erickson got promoted to AA.
Jake Lemmerman - SS - Compared to last year, Late Night had a very average season for the Quakes. He batted a respectable .293, but he only hit 8 long balls and had an OPS under .800. I guess that's pretty good for a 22 year old player's first full pro season, and the Dodgers were impressed enough to promote him to AA late in the year and also send him to the AFL (where he is currently struggling). I'm still surprised he hasn't spent time at other infield positions, but either way next year should be interesting as he'll most likely be the Lookouts everyday shortstop for the entire season.
Griff Erickson - C - The big backstop only played 63 games for the Quakes because he was promoted to AA in early July, but he made the most of his time in Rancho. Griff had a knack for getting on base and had an OB% over .400, and showed a great eye as he walked almost as much as he struck out. He also demonstrated some power which also followed him to Chattanooga. Spending time in the AFL this off-season should get the 23 year old switch hitter ready for a full year of AA in 2012.
Nick Buss - OF - Buss was probably the Dodgers minor league comeback player of the year and also should be considered the runner up for the Quakes MVP. After a forgettable season in 2010, Buss turned things around completely and had outstanding all around stats. His.328 average led the team, as did his 28 stolen bases. He also showed pop with 14 homers, struck out in just 11.9% of plate appearances, and was nearly flawless in center field. The 24 year old should be ready for AA in 2012 and has got his name back on the prospect radar.
Matt Magill - RHP - After leading minor league baseball with a .194 batting average against in 2010, Magill got off to a hot start in 2011 by allowing just 4 total runs over his first 5 starts. From there his season was a bit up and down, but overall the 21 year old posted a solid 4.33 ERA. He had a couple of high strikeout games, including back to back starts during which he collected 10 and 12 K's respectively, but in person his stuff wasn't all that overwhelming.
Aaron Miller - RHP - Miller only threw 34 innings for the Quakes thanks to a nagging groin injury, and even when he was healthy the 24 year old lefty had an uninspiring season. His 3.97 ERA was decent, but he posted a 1.62 WHIP and his strikeout rate was lower than expected. Hopefully he'll come back completely healthy in 2012 and return to form.
Ethan Martin - RHP - Martin was a mess as a starter in the Quakes rotation, mostly due to his lack of control, but he also continued to show flashes of his electric stuff as he racked up the K's despite and ugly ERA and WHIP. A move to the bullpen seemed to help him out, and after just 7 relief appearances for the Quakes the 22 year old was promoted to AA where he showed even more improvement.
Steven Ames - RHP - Ames was only with the Quakes for a short time because he was so dominate that he forced the organization to promote him to AA. If it wasn't for Tolleson's ridiculous season, I'm sure Ames would have gotten even more attention in 2011. In 15.1 innings for Rancho the 23 year old struck out 28 (16.4 K/9), had a 1.17 ERA, a 0.78 WHIP, and walked only two batters. He wasn't quite that spectacular after his promotion, but still was great with the Lookouts as well.
Position by Position Breakdown (player's age in parenthesis):
Catcher: The aforementioned combo of JT Wise (25) and Griff Erickson (23) handled almost all of the catching duties for the Quakes in 2011 and had to be the most production pair of backstops in the league. They combined for 23 HR's, 113 RBI's, and an OPS of almost .900. They also held their own behind the plate with a collective fielding percentage of .989. Prodigal son Jessie Mier (26), who returned to the Dodgers after getting cut by the Rangers, held down the backup role once Erickson was promoted but was terrible.
1st Base: Austin Gallagher (22) was the main 1st baseman for the Quakes and finally broke out with his best season as a professional. His stats still weren't all that great for a big man playing a power position, but he did smack 13 homers to go along with his .292 average and showed great plate disciple as he walked almost as much as he struck out. Still just 22, Gallagher could still breakout and turn into a legit prospect, especially if he has a good season in AA next year. Team MVP Angelo Songco (23), who I walked about above also spent quite a bit of time at his new position of 1st base, and as I already mentioned JT Wise (25) played a handful of games at 1st base as well.
2nd Base: The everyday 2nd baseman for most of the year was Rafael Ynoa (24) who had a very pedestrian season in 2011. He showed some potential with the Loons in 2010, but his stolen base numbers came way down from last year and his OPS fell .697 despite playing in a hitter friendly league. His lone bright spot was his strong walk to strikeout ratio. When Lemmerman was promoted to AA in early August, Ynoa moved over to shortstop and Jaime Pedroza (25) then took over at 2nd base. It must have been quite frustrating for Pedroza to find himself back in the California League after almost 2 seasons in AA, but he made the most of it and put up solid numbers including a .848 OPS.
Shortstop: Jake Lemmerman (22) played shortstop pretty much every day up until his promotion to the Lookouts in August, and I discussed his offensive numbers above. In terms of his defense, Late Night made 20 errors and had a .946 fielding %, which isn't great but also isn't bad for a minor league shortstop. As I just mentioned above Ynoa also spent some time at shortstop, as did Pedro Guerrero (22) who was mostly a utility guy and played all over the infield. I'd considered Guerrero a fringe prospect in the past, but he's shown very little offensive ability over the last few seasons and he now appears to be more of an organizational player.
3rd Base: Tony Delmonico (24) made the transition to 3rd base in 2011 and his .926 fielding % shows that he still needs some work defensively, but at the plate he had a pretty solid season. Like he's done throughout his career Tony continued to get on base at a great clip, ranking 2nd on the team with his .387 OB%, and he also connected on a career high 12 homers. He's lost some value since he no longer plays catcher, but I think he still has a chance to get to the big leagues one day. Travis Denker (26) was the team's other 3rd baseman before his promotion to AA in June. The former big leaguer cranked out 15 homers in just 197 at bats, but he hit just .259 and also struggled defensively.
Outfield: The Quakes' outfield featured some of the team's best players as Nick Buss (24), Blake Smith (23), and Angelo Songco (23) all spent a significant amount of time out on the grass. Buss played by far the most games in the outfield, splitting his time between center and left, and as mentioned above he had a solid comeback year complete with a team leading .328 average and a surprising 14 homers. Smith played exclusively in right field thanks to his tremendous arm and gunned down 13 runners while posting very solid offensive stats. Then of course there was Songco, the team MVP who played left field for the 1st half of the season before moving to 1st base. Ramon Jean (24) was the only other player on the roster to spend at least 50 games in the outfield but he had a unimpressive season with a .247 average and just 5 homers. He showed some speed with 13 SB's, but rarely walked and had a .281 OB%. Finally minor league veteran Anthony Jackson (27) was a late addition to the Quakes, but did a decent amount of damage in his 35 games with a .336 average, 10 SB's, and a .878 OPS.
Starting Pitchers: Five Quake pitchers reached double digits in starts in 2011, led by pitching MVP Jon Michael Redding (23) who toed the rubber 24 times and tied a team high with 11 wins. Matt Magill (21) was the one who tied Redding with 11 wins, and he also claimed the team workhorse crown with 139.1 innings pitched. Andres Santiago (22) final stats were a bit surprising to me as I didn't realize he actually started 20 games and worked 121.2 innings. His ERA and WHIP were a little high at 5.03 and 1.63 respectively, but he had a solid K/9 of 8.3 and his FIP was 3.79. The 6'2" right hander may have turned himself into a bit of a sleeper prospect, although I don't think he's quite ready for AA. Arismendy Ozoria (21) was the youngest pitcher on the Quakes in 2011 yet managed to start 14 games. He showed that he is still a bit raw, however, as he had a similar ERA and WHIP to Santiago, yet didn't have the K/9 (6.1) or FIP (5.98) to get me too excited. Even still I think he shows some promise given his age and some of the scouting reports I've read on him. After solid stint with the Loons, Red Patterson (24) continued to impress in his 14 stats with the Quakes. Patterson struck out over a batter per innings, led all starters with a 1.12 WHIP, and even threw a 9 inning shutout to boot. In addition to these 5 starters, Allen Webster (21), Ethan Martin (22), and Aaron Miller (24) all spent some time in the rotation and were all discussed above. Finally it should be noted that 2011 first round pick Chris Reed (21) made 3 starts late in the year for Rancho, but he only ended up throwing 7 innings. He struck out 9 batters over that span, but allowed too many base runners and gave up 6 runs.
Relief Pitchers: The Quakes put together a very solid bullpen in 2011 which was a big reason why Rancho won their division in both halves of the season. Jordan Roberts (25) and Steve Smith (25), who proved to be a dominate lefty-righty combo for the Loons in 2010, found similar success in the California League and ranked 1st and 2nd in innings pitched among relievers. Roberts won 7 games and posted a 3.03 ERA, while Smith was a part time closer and picked up 9 saves to go along with his 3.63 ERA. The other relievers who spent time at closer were Logan Bawcom (23), who collected 13 quick saves in just 21 innings after his promotion from LoA, Steven Ames (23), who was mentioned above and posted ridiculous stats before his promotion to AA, and Shawn Tolleson (23), who spent only 9.2 innings in HiA but had even better numbers than Ames with a 0.93 ERA and a 0.52 WHIP. Another reliever worth mentioned is Javy Solano (21) who had another strong season in 2011. His ERA with the Quakes was 4.09, but his FIP was much better at 2.65 and he struck out more than a batter per inning. Solano was promoted to the Lookouts in July and for the 2nd year in a row he put up better numbers in AA than he did in HiA. Finally Josh Walter (26) did some solid work in middle relief, while the 100 mph man Luis Vasquez (25) had trouble finding the plate and was injured for most of the season
League Leaders:
| California League Hitters | |||
| Category | Player | Rank | Amount |
| At Bats | Angelo Songco | 5th | 534 |
| Runs | Angelo Songco | 3rd | 110 |
| Hits | Angelo Songco | 3rd | 167 |
| Doubles | Angelo Songco | 1st | 48 |
| Home Runs | Angelo Songco | 2nd | 29 |
| RBI's | Angelo Songco | 2nd | 114 |
| Total Bases | Angelo Songco | 1st | 310 |
| SLG% | Angelo Songco | 3rd | 0.581 |
| Average | Nick Buss | 5th | 0.328 |
| OPS | Angelo Songco | 4th | 0.948 |
| California League Pitchers | |||
| Category | Player | Rank | Amount |
| ERA | Jon Michael Redding | 6th | 3.66 |
| Shutouts | Red Patterson | Tied 1st | 1 |
| Saves | Logan Bawcom | 6th | 13 |
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Quakes could be a great team to watch next year as well
Brandon, do you think they’ll start Zach Lee there? Or will he still be with the Loons to begin the year?
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The Loons are out of the question, the only possibilities are Rancho or Chattanooga. I think Rancho will be his destination but I believe Brandon differs with me.
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Gould and Lee in Rancho makes me think I’ll be heading out there at some point next season.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
i'd go
i’d like to see Garcia there too.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I had never considered he'll return to the Loons
and it doesn’t seem at all likely. I’m split on whether he’ll go to HiA or AA for 2012. As Phil mentioned below him and the general option here seems to be that he’ll at least start in HiA, and for me like I said I’m split but I am leaning slightly toward AA
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
At the very least, opposing runners would trip as they rounded first.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Rotowire using www.minorleaguecentral.com again for their in depth analysis of prospect. This time they hit the PCL looking at power and K rates.
The Good:
Power: Let’s be honest, this is what most of us are looking for. Since we have beaten up Davis for most of this article, it is time to praise him as he led the entire sampling of hitters in outfield flyballs with a 48 percent rate. Flyball ratios are nice, but outfield flyballs are the balls that become extra-base hits and he hit them out there with regularity. Other batters that hit outfield flyballs at a high rate include Anthony Rizzo, Jerry Sands, Chris Carter, and Ishikawa. Each of those hitters had outfield flyball rates of at least 40 percent. When we look at home runs per outfield flyball, Davis is once again at the top as 36.4 percent of his outfield flies made it over the fence. Trayvon Robinson was next at 35.6 percent with Mike Carp, Welington Castillo, Brett Jackson, Brandon Allen, Jerry Sands, and Brett Lawrie all in the top 15.
The Bad:
Contact: Contact can derail many a prospect unless that prospect has some immense talents. …. Asking players to make contact with at least 75 percent of their pitches is not an unreasonable request, but 43 hitters in our pool (31 percent) failed to do so. Of course, Davis is in that group, but he did not have the highest swinging strike percentage (SwSTR%) as that belonged to Chris Robinson in the Cubs’ organization. Other notable names that swung and missed at 75 percent or more of their pitches include Eric Young Jr., Brandon Belt, Dee Gordon, Tyson Auer, Mat Gamel, Bryan Anderson, Mike Moustakas, and Tyler Colvin.
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Hard to imagine any scenario where anyone who was still on this team at the end of the year is a Dodger top 10 prospect except for Chris Reed.
Sorry Songco.
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I hate it when guys lead the league in everything too :)
He has legit concerns, but dude has some serious pop and that’s going to get him some play.
If Songco ends up with more at bats then Russell Mitchell as a Dodger I’d be surprised. He is in no mans land, I expect the learning curve in AA to carve him up during his first year with the Lookouts. Unless I goes back to being an outfielder I don’t see a Dodger future.
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He doesn’t walk much, but neither did Christian Guzman and look how long he was in the league for, even if he was a bad fielding SS.
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When Guzman was Songco’s age he had a four WAR season in the bigs.
Offensive expectations for a middle infielder and a corner outfielder are different.
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I should have brought up an outfielder before I brought up any other positions
First one is Garret Anderson with 4.7 BB% in his career. He was in the majors much younger than Songco would ever be, but Anderson’s walks never really went higher.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2&position=OF
Juan Encarnacion’s BB% was at 5.7, so not a ton higher, and he was a useful player in his career.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=320&position=OF
Marquis Grissom at 6.2
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=652&position=OF
Jay Payton at 5.7
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=890&position=OF
Crawford at 5.3, though admittedly he’s a different type of hitter
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1201&position=OF
Jose Guillen at 5
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=57&position=OF
Honestly not many players survive with a low walk percentage, and while Songco has shown good ability outside of that, he will need to improve his walks a lot if he wants to sniff the majors.
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the Dodger top 10 prospect lists are going to be interesting this year
i’m betting that some lists where 8 or 9 of the 10 will be pitchers
also, we’ll probably be starting the TBLA prospect voting at some point in the next few weeks
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
and he already surpassed the 50 IP
Guerra also has surpassed the limit because of the # of appearances he’s made
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
130 at bats
and then the other criteria that hasn’t come into play before is 30 appearance threshold for relievers (even if they don’t hit 50 IP)
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t there a number of days on the major league roster criteria?
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for rookie criteria, yes, and it's only 45 non-September days
but for prospect status that usually gets thrown out for most publications, and i don’t consider that either
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, though I think Pederson will force his way onto the top ten.
Notable Offensive Prospects:
Erickson 10 – 20
Van Slyke – 13 – 20
Silverio – 13 – 20
Lemmerman – 13 – 20
FedEx – 5 – 15
Songco – 15 – 20
B Smith 15 – 20
Garcia – 5 – 15
Pederson – 5 – 12
Baldwin 10 – 15
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Sounds like he’s going to our starting catcher. I could see him getting plenty of support after the pitchers are gone.
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he was traded for our top ten prospect. Defense does matter. I’ll bet he’s in BA’s top 15 this year for us.
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Why because he might make the big league team? I don’t see backup catchers on anyone’s top 20 too often. Ned seemed to be the only person with a boner for Fed
If we don’t sign a veteran, I fully expect Fedex to have more at bats by the end of 2012 then AJ Ellis.
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I’ll back you on that Phil
Defense matters
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
why are you so sure he’s not?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know if he is or not, but I can’t imagine NedCo handing a guy who has barely caught in the big leagues the starting job. Catcher is the one position on the diamond where having big league experience of handling a pitching staff matters.
I didn’t say they would hand him the starting job, I said he’d end up with more at bats then Ellis as they slowly make him the starting catcher.
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So you think a guy that never really hit in the minors will now hit in the big leagues?
I am skeptical at best, but would love to see it.
I don’t expect any more offense then Barajas would deliver. Catcher are such strange beasts, I’m not even sure minor league numbers mean squat for them. Matt Weiters tore up minor leagues and has basically struggled. Avila was solid but not great in his two seasons.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=avila-001ale
and now he’s the best hitting catcher in the AL.
Time and time again you can find pedestrian minor league numbers for catchers who do better offensively in the major leagues then you’d have every right to expect.
Nick Hundley for God’s sake had an OPS over .800 (132 OPS+) for the Padre’s. Nothing in his minor league resume suggested such a thing.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hundle001nic
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I see what you are getting at, but Avila and Hundley sucked (offensively at least) when they first came up to MLB. Hundley has improved but his breakout came in what his 4th season? I don’t see FedEx somehow coming up and making an immediate impact. Hope he proves me wrong though.
i won't have fedex in my top 10
anyone know where he ranked in the Red Sox top 30 last year for Baseball America? i don’t have my BA book with me
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Russell
he’s making the bigs this year.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
he will make the first update when he kills it in spring training and usurps Rivera in LF ;)
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Brandon - question re: Magill
I feel like I remember reading an article from you saying the first time you saw Magill, you really liked his stuff and his somewhat deceptive delivery.
Did you see him more times later in the season that turned you off from him?
i only saw him once, and here is what i wrote at that time
Matt Magill had great offspeed pitches, but his fastball did not get above 88 mph, and usually sat around 85 mph. Even on a pitch-out he was clocked only at 82 mph. I did ask the staff about the gun and they said it’s about 3 mph slow, but even still I thought he threw harder than that. Maybe that’s why scouts think he’ll get exposed in AA and above…because more advanced hitters will wait for and sit on his fastball. That being said, he kept the Storm hitters off balance all day and like I said above showed solid offspeed offerings that ranged from 73 mph to 79 mph. He also showed the ability to control his pitches, so I still see him as a solid Dodger pitching prospect.
So his stuff wasn’t overwhelming, but i still liked him and for the level he was at he kept the guys off balance. it will be interesting to see how his stuff translates into AA
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Big fan of Magill myself
Because he’s out of Simi Valley, and in 2010 limited hits like crazy. Hopefully he rebounds in 2012.
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Weird dream last night. Dreamt I wrote Roger Clemens a letter telling him how much I idolized him as a kid, modeled my pitching after him, and that I didn’t care what he did or didntdo, but to keep up the fight becaus that’s what The Rocket would do.
Weird dream.
Heard he wanted to play on the same winter ball team as his son
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That must have been when the kitten was trying to clean you.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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did you find the mouse?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
NO. :(
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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You had a mouse in your house?
We had one, too, but fortunately outside the house. Unfortunately — for the poor critter — he was dead (killed by some other critter that obviously wasn’t interested in eating it). Was unpleasant to dispose of. A friend of mine suggested a Viking burial at sea, but instead he ended up in a plastic bag in the garbage. But we played mouse funeral music.
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Those 13 assists are ridic in that number of games
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i definitely considered him for that award
and see the arguement for him
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to think he can still be something productive
I like Smith’s numbers.
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I’m already going to tout Aaron Miller as prospect comeback player of the year:)
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Griff Erickson starting to find his stroke in the AFL. Two more hits yesterday including a triple, now has six extra base hits in his last 10 games after having zero before that. Last ten games OPS has moved over .800.
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need to get him
on the 40 man
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
that decision seems to be one of the more interesting things to follow over the next few weeks
and it really might come down to how he finishes up in the AFL. I know i said yesterday that I didn’t think he’ll get added, but we shall see
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I doubt many teams have 4 cahers on their 40 man, and would think that with the impending roster crunch, the choice comes down to one of Griff/Ellis/Fed vs a free agent catcher signing. Meaning, keep Griff, Fed and Ellis, and we don’t sign a catcher.
The Dodgers did not that long ago. Martin, Ausmus, Ellis and May were all on the 40 man.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, the Dodgers broke camp last year with 4 as well. Navarro, Barajas, Ellis and Gimenez
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Why – his game is suited for backup, why would you say such a thing?
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He’s out of options. If they don’t sign a FA, I don’t think they make Fed the starter and Ellis the backup. I think it would be the other way around.
Still don’t understand the comment he’d be gone.
He’s either the starter / backup in a Ellis / FedEx combo
or if the Dodgers sign a veteran catcher he’s the backup with Fed Ex in AAA.
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I agree and think scenario 2 is the one the Dodgers end up with.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
They woudl have to be convinced that FedEx is much better than Ellis and if they’re convinced of that, they’ll just forego signing a free agent.
Otherwise, if they’re close, you just keep Ellis and utilize Feds having options.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much seems to be the pattern with him
Making adjustments, Good sign
Hanging out with HJ
At the wine bar last night, good food, great wines.
Lessons learned:
1. Small dogs are great icebreakers to start conversations.
2. Guys must always pay if they ask the girl out.
3. Never fall for her offer to pay.
4. Never complain about waiting for sex.
5. Appreciate their efforts to cook for you.
6. If she sends a text to you that was supposed to her friends, you probably take that as a sign she doesn’t want to see you anymore.
yes, young buck, it was another interesting evening
We were only missing Phil
this time instead of Cougars molesting us in public places, it was just fun chat with a couple of loony 30 year olds. Nice gals, very good looking, and funny too
One told the story about the guy who complained about no sex, he pushed her Dog away when the dog just wanted to play “You are never getting my Vagina” is what she thought at that moment
as soon as she said that, I knew these were my kind of crazy dames
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
2. Guys must always pay if they ask the girl out.
3. Never fall for her offer to pay.
Games like this are why dating is harder then it needs to be. Sounds so stupid. If you don’t want to pay don’t offer.
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it is really very easy
that is not hard math
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
you think if they play games like that
those are the only games they’ll play? Doubt it.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
most games are fun. And games like that are just a passive-aggressive way of finding out certain information without asking the question directly, because it’s easier to lie to a direct question.
they are trying to negotiate the ever changing rule book of how an independent modern woman should act, while at the same time preserving a bit of the fairy tale of the handsome man who will take care of them
If you are a man and ask me out – I will offer to pay or split because offering is nice and shows I have the means to support myself if necessary – but if you accept I’ll take it to mean that you aren’t the handsome man who will take care of me (even if I don’t want that in life, I want a little of the romance now)
that is not 100% accurate, but I know I am directionally correct on this. The problem with most guys is that they think everything from their POV – understand the gal and everyone gets what they want.
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
its stupid
if they don’t want to pay don’t offer. There are actually women out there who would like to split or pay or w/e, but you have no idea which are which because no one is capable of communicating like a mature adult.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
just say 'you get the next one'
assuming there is a next one..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 4, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
girls don't accidentally send you texts that where for their girlfreidns
and say bad things about you, they do it on porpouse because they are passive aggressive?
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I would
Say this, this particular gal is what one could describe as the stereotypical blonde, thin and attractive woman who has an idea of what she is looking for in a guy and right now will move on quickly if that isn’t there.
But in the time we talked, both of them also seemed very sweet.
you guys are Cougar magnets
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It is all BH
he comes across as sweet and harmless, the next thing you know he has them signed up for cooking classes
I declined to get their email addresses, even 14 years their senor, nothing good could come of it
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
When my good wife finally comes to her senses and dumps me, I’m going to make Craig my wing man. The only other time I had a wing man, the girls liked him more then me even though he was ugly as hell, a mean drunk, and a Yankee fan.
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She
Meant to send a text to her friends saying she didn’t know if she should bring him somewhere later that day because she wasn’t sure she wanted to keep seeing him, instead she sent that to him.
Man, R.I.P. Bob Forsch (!) Threw out the first pitch in WS game last week.
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interesting
I have seen two different articles now discussing the giants trading Lincecum. Either for a bat or to free up money to sign one. I doubt it’ll happen since he’s so popular, but it’d be damn interesting
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Would this be a better team?
Trade Lincecum for Cano
Use money saved to sign Reyes
I think so
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I even like how the letters progress around the diamond
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Ya, that’s really good. And smart. Good thing they’ll never do it.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, it would be
man, that is not an easy trade to say no to I think
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes. But Cano isn't getting traded so it's just a theoretical discussion...
If the Giants would get more spendy they could improve even without trading Timmy but doesn’t sound like they will be that spendy this off season.
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For Lincecum? I don’t know, I see the Yankees doing that.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that’d fill holes on both teams. Hell, the Giants may even be able to send Huff and Sanchez their way to fill a couple holes, while getting a reliever or some relief in return.
Let’s see – two aces for the playoffs? Who could resist that, no matter the loss in offensive production.
That’s how I see it too. They need pitching and they have hitting to spare.
And I never really got the sense that Cano was considered untradeable for them. They value him (as they should) but in order to balance out your team, I think they’d do it.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
no reason to consider him untradeable when they offered to trade him for Kemp. Or was that just a rumor?
I think it was just a rumor. One that was debated on Dodger blogs and Yankees blogs and took on a life of its own.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a weird trade. I remember discussing it in 09 when Kemp was a star and Cano was coming off a disastrous 2008. Then came 2010 when Kemp sucked and Cano was a star. Now in 2011 both are great and Kemp was arguably the best player in the NL.
Long story short, its one of those trades where you might not have been happy, but you definitely didn’t get ripped off.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I count 4 deserved all stars. Who are your 6?
Cano, Granderson, A Rod, Tex.
Or did you mean literal All Stars this year?
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Just asked a Yankee fan how he would feel about that trade
“Hell no, I’d do it for Kershaw though.”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
I admit I’d love Cano, too. But not wanting to trade Kemp or Kershaw of course, Dodgers don’t have much else to offer that would be fair, on ML team nor in prospect matches.
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I don't know, guys, I can see anything happening, but Cano is actually a relative bargain
for his numbers and is basically the best hitter on that team along with Granderson. I could see the Yankees trying to work something else for Lincecum, maybe even willing to trade Montero for him (who could play 1st for Giants, Belt in LF).
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They hold another club option for Cano for 2013 at $15MM.
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are they still paying Rowand next year?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
What's worse
A killer rotation with Lincecum in it and an awful lineup with 1, possibly 2 good hitters in it.
or
A still really good rotation without Lincecum, then a lineup with 1 or 2 possibly good hitters and 1 great hitter in it such as Pujols or Fielder?
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If the Giants signed either of those guys, they’d have to deal Lincecum, take on no salary in retur, and still lose another $10mil off the payroll
I’d love to see this trade, just to see Tim Lincecum vs. the True Yankee Fans vs. the New York Post.
Good gosh, that would be a party.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think everyone should own a pair of Nike Air Max shoes once in their life. I am walking on clouds.
believe it or not
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m asking because I’ve never spent money on shoes but my feet deserve better now.
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yes.
i never spent this much on shoes either. but when i put them on at the store i was thinking fuck it, lets do this.
This is the way a signing of Fielder or Pujols could happen
The idea would make more sense once one or more ownership groups emerged as legitimate possibilities — and endorsed such a move.
Once certain buyers are approved, Blackstone will begin talking to them about their strategies and see if there is a consensus as far as how they want to see the off-season go and how moves will affect their valuations.
This is what we were talking about yesterday. I think instinctively it goes against the grain. Conventional wisdom is not to rock the boat during transition. But it really makes a ton of sense for both McCourt and a perspective buyer in my view.
It does make a lot of sense
You’d have to think most owners if they had the Dodgers would be going after Pujols, Fielder, Beltran, Ramirez, CJ Wilson, etc…So since no owner will be in before they would get the chance to sign those players, it makes sense to sign one now and give more incentive at least in the short term.
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Yep. McCourt signing either of these guys means increased future revenue streams in the form of merchandising, ticket sales, and increased chances of making the post season. That makes the franchise more valuable now which is good for McCourt and it puts the Dodgers back in the national conscienseness (in a good way), which is good for the buyer.
he makes good points
I know McCourt cares only about McCourt — I’ve seen the court documents. But considering the number of prospective ownership groups that already are jockeying for the Dodgers, it’s doubtful that signing Pujols or Fielder would prevent McCourt from securing the highest possible sale price.
Do it, Frank.
Do it, and your legacy won’t be all bad.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly, he is not going to scare off all the buyers because you’ve signed Fielder. Hell, he probably won’t scare off any.
Just in case Fielder ever comes our way, suggested headlines...
FielderWood!
Fielder of Dreams.
Prince. The player formally known as a Brewer.
Kiss a McCourt, Get a Prince!
Prince of a Man.
Fresh Prince of L.A.
Kemp + Fielder = Dyno mite!
I was thinking “Price of Los Angeles” but “Fresh Prince of L.A.” is pretty great.
“Dodgers Sign Hitter Fielder” would be sort of funny
what if it’s Pujols?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Prince Albert, the very name makes me wince and my stomach churn
ugh
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
“From A Lineup With Holes To A Lineup With Pujols”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
“Dodgers clean out the crap with brand new Pujols”
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a headline, but a Converse commercial at Dodger Stadium in 2012
Pujols shows up to batting practice, says to Kemp, “I see Converse made a pair of shoes for last year’s MVP.”
Kemp: “Yeah”
Pujols: “But they also made a pair of shoes for this year’s MVP”
Kemp: “Alright Albert, show me what you got.” [hands Pujols his bat]
[commercial fades out with shots of Pujols and Kemp hitting home runs]
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
love it
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
When the DBacks re-signed John MacDonald
Was AZ Snakepit’s headline “Diamondbacks Sign Fielder” ?
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by David Young on Nov 4, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Fielder Finally Gets Access To Dodgers Clubhouse”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i like this one :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
"...Not Only Moves Trash Can, He Crushes It Like a Beer Can Across His Forehead."
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Fielder Paid A Princely Sum
Prince Paid Like A King
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
“Cecil Fielder Has New Reason To Call Son”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chuck Klosterman ranks the top 50 college basketball players of all-time
he has Alcindor, Maravich, and Walton 1-2-3. I enjoyed the phrasing of this passage about Big Lew:
it was that pre-Kareem who remains the most jaw-dropping college player to ever walk the planet. The fact that UCLA won the national title during all three seasons Alcindor played is merely the third-most interesting detail of his college career; the fact that the NCAA outlawed dunking due to his dominance is probably second. But to me, the thing that will always be most unfathomable about Alcindor was his very first game, played when he was an ineligible freshman: UCLA was coming off back-to-back national championships. As an exhibition, the Bruin varsity — ranked no. 1 in the nation — opened the season by scrimmaging the freshmen team. Alcindor had 31 points, 21 boards, and eight blocks. The freshmen hammered the varsity by 15 points; the no. 1 team in the country could not beat a player who could not yet play. As an ineligible 18-year-old, Alcindor was (at worst) the fourth or fifth-best basketball player in the world. So I guess talent does matter, sometimes.
Freshmen used to be ineligible to play?
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Did they show a baseball practice in the background
where the coach was teaching pitchers to throw with an inverted W?
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The scene where the surviving player crashes the board meeting where they’re deciding whether or not to cancel the program.
That sounds kinda like a sad part to me
I’ve never seen it, though it sounds good.
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Never happened
Q: Did they really chant “We Are … Marshall?”
A: While “We are … Marshall” is famous in Huntington, and now has the potential to be known throughout the nation, the chant was not used in 1970 or 1971.
“The ‘We are … Marshall’ chant was never a part of our game,” Lengyel said. "It came later, but it’s very appropriate for the movie.
“It’s a statement that ties ‘we’ and everybody in the town, the community, the football team together. It ties the whole people together.”
Phil, movie killer.
Basically any movie based on an historical situation, that makes you tear up was made up by the scriptwriter because they feel their fiction is better then truth.
Gales Sayers would never have touched that ornery white man’s hand.
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its weird that Sorkin keeps doing "true" stories
when he has admitted he doesn’t really care about what actually happeend
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wow
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I can really only comment on contemporary players, but the big omission I see is Kenyon Martin. He was an absolute beast in college and better than (names that made it): Kalid El-Amin, JJ Reddick and Adam Morrison. He was the best player in the country and when he got hurt before the NCAA tournament the selection committe ranked Cincinnati a 2 seed (they were the number 1 team in the country thanks to Martin most of that year.)
That being said, I may be overrating Martin based on 1 great year because I don’t really remember his earlier years.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
the
Qualifier that your pro career could not outshine your college career would eliminate a lot of UCLA and North Carolina players. Surprised Bobby Hurley or maybe even Laetnar isn’t on the list.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 4, 2011 9:45 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I might be a gametime decision on the cages tomorrow. Messed up my knee Monday night. Not hurt, but the backof it is really sore. Worried I might have strained my ACL.
lemme know -
I am just hoping for a dry field on Sunday at this point
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
How is Wilt Chamberlain not on this list?
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Loved this
6. Walter Berry (San Jacinto Junior College and St. John’s University, 1983-1986): This 6-foot-8 southpaw was one of the only people to be the best player on two separate collegiate levels — he had one of the greatest JUCO seasons ever at Jacinto and was a Wooden Award winner for St. John’s. He also had the craziest scoring attacks of the ‘80s — he ignored his right hand completely, whirled incessantly, and showed supreme disinterest in developing anything as dull as a jump shot. He electrified every college game he played, but — of course — was not designed for the orthodoxy of the NBA. Larry Brown tried to unlock his insanity for the Spurs in 1988, and it did not take. "He’s a fundamentally sound coach," Berry told a reporter at the time, “and my game does not consist of fundamentals.”
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I remember nothing whatsoever of number 19 Jerome Lane
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Known for breaking backboard(s) at Pitt
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I loved this guy 26. Dereck Whittenburg (North Carolina State, 1980-1983), but no way does he belong on a list of even top 100 College Basketball players.
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Never mind, I may just delete all my ignorant posts
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you'd have to go back pretty far to get them all ;)
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IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
We’re signing Prince Fielder. Want to know how I know? We’ve been planning for this day since 2007. When we made the Right Field Pavilion the All You Can Eat Section, it was simply a nod to Fielder from 2000 miles away. Soon, the A Prince Fielder Can Eat Pavilion will be realized, and there will be Dodger Dogs and Big Flies for everyone.
by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is funny...
Hide the food and keep him out of the All You Can Eat Section
The funny part is I also read he’s a vegetarian.
he is. In fact, it bring an interesting idea to offer Vegan and Gluten Free Dodger Dogs. Designate a couple of the concession stands n each level to being gluten free and/or vegan.
WARNING VEGAN DOGS
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
as a former vegan
they are fine as a tasty substitute, but they will not feature that moment where you can taste bovine soul in your mouth
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
taste bovine soul in your mouth
Made me chuckle audibly.
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I sincerely doubt you can train a dog not to eat animals products.
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I had one lab
who loved carrots. All my others won’t touch them
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It is kind of funny, the one rushes over when we open the frig hoping for a carrot, we give him one and the puppy runs over thinking something awesome is happening, we give him a carrot, he spits it out after playing with it in his mouth. Once he spits it out he decides it is a better toy then food and starts playing hockey with it.
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Because vegan food that tries to be fake meat is gross.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Had a chipotle dog at a Vegan beer bar around last December and it was pretty tasty. Could make lines at the regular stands shorter too.
Okay, but I get consolation points because:
A) a girl I had just met invited me
B) beer bar was a microbrewery that only sold their own craft beers
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by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Meat Loaf disagrees.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll give it to them that’s the least ugly uniform they could have made with that color scheme.
Orange and Blue is going to look so 2010s in 15 years.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
It will be the southwest theme of the mid 1990s
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Not nearly as bad as this tweet from Will Carroll
If the Marlins unis that I just saw (and no, I can’t show you) are real, they’re worse than the hats. Rainbow Astros level bad.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I am so glad that the Dodgers just have one hat
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
you have a link?
i can’t see the pics
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks
wow, that’s………something…..
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it just me
Or does the player’s name on those unis say “Bossman”?
Looks like Robbman, which makes me wish they used Robbnen
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Orange one owns. We need more totally garish uniforms.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
My little league never used MLB replica unis; we always got the plain uniforms with team names in script across the front.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
mine did
I was on the Astros, wearing those orange rainbow unis
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Spawn has taken to dressing herself these days. She’ll pick various combinations of shirts, leggings, dresses, etc., in varied colors that don’t match, because, and I quote, she “wants to look like a rainbow.”
But even Spawn’s combos are better than these uniforms. Sheesh.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I can tell you
with 100% certainty those aren’t the new Marlins uniforms. That’s a concept piece from the sportslogos.net board, MLB would never ever release a new uniform using that template
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
allegedly it gets close to the real deal, but it’s still just someone’s mock up
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, would they really have four caps? Home, Away, Home Alt, Away Alt? How many teams have four different caps?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
None
the official word is there will be just two caps, solid black and solid orange
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Solid orange? Heaven help us.
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that would be too much spite
and I don’t want Eric to ban me
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Orange cap, orange top, orange belt with orange stirrups, white pants and white/orange cleats would look pretty cool.
Also, like an Oriole, but brighter.
I was one of the contrarians that actually liked the orange unis the Tampa Bay Bucs debuted with, even though TVs back then made the oranges bleed a bit. But orange in baseball uniforms makes me think SF Giants, and then I retch.
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I read an interview with the guy who did the Bucs redesign. Said with the pewter, they were trying to come up with a new neutral color beside black, white, silver, and gold. I’d say they failed. That guy went on the design the XFL
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
he had a better case with Bucco Bruce than with the redesign. Crossing swords is an image goes back to pirate days, can’t exactly copyright that. And a skull is different from a live head
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
since when have the Raiders used red as a color? No one, looking at the Bucs, is going to think, hey did the Raiders add a red alternate? You mean the fact that it’s a color jersey with a metallic helmet and pants? He could go after the Cowboys then
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean, is he going to sue Calico Jack too,
it was his Jolly Roger that the Bucs used:
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by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Those are a little paler than I remembered.
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In retrospect, probably not a great idea to dress your QB in the color hunters and freeway workers wear to ensure they will be seen. I can just imagine some blitzing linebacker saying, I just kept that orange uni in the corner of my eye as I fought through the mayhem at the line.
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The uniforms are fine. And the awful logo is so small if not in close-up. But why baby-blue cap for road games? It doesn’t match. They must be trying to pull a Detroit (color only on road uniform) to detract from the other Giants colors. Better if they just paraded themselves as Gnats of the East without that silly baby blue. And squint when the logo nears.
Those are worse than the hats, which I didn't think possible.
Though to be fair, it’s a very smart scheme to make the hats look good, if that was the idea!
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Needs more throw up
i mean whatever. i think it might be cool if they change their colors every week or month.
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This made me laugh loudly
In 1988 I was busy piping in clips of Vin Scully announcing to various Dallas-area hospitals, hoping it would inspire an infant to one day grow into the greatest pitcher in Dodgers history.
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by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
but james loney turned into a hitter anyway, imagine that.
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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Right
Gary fucked up the city and the timeline. Loney was four, not an infant
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup, that’s what ruined the whole joke for me!
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Bryce Harper last 10 days (six games): .522/.556/1.217. Youngest in the AFL by five months, currently 6th in OPS (8th if you want to relax the PA enough to include Castellanos)
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He’s only OPSed 1.700 in his last six games. At 1.077 overall.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
of opposing pitchers
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
all the blood just rushed from silverwidow’s head
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
no
he hasn’t since he started playing professionally
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t just about all the prospects watches say “AFL, big hitters league and don’t pay any attention to the stats” ?
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When the youngest guy in the league is mashing you have to pay attention.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah we'll probably start in less than two weeks
want to finish all the minor league recap’s first…just have 2 more to go
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I hadn't really noticed all that much
That Lincecum has gone from incredibly elite in 2008 and 2009 to just* a great pitcher the last 2 seasons. With some speculation that he could be traded, the Giants might be looking at his increasing walk numbers the last 2 seasons (though back to the pre 2009 levels in his first and second years), increased home run levels the last 2 seasons, and the declining strikeout numbers also since 2009.
I’d have no problem seeing him at a 5-6.5 WAR pitcher still, I wonder if the Giants might feel better off extending Matt Cain and trading Lincecum for a big bat they’ve sorely needed (which would be awful news for us).
*I’d love another “just” all-star level pitcher in the staff.
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Rosenthal says
the A’s will listen to offers for anyone but Weeks
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
Cahill in Dodger Stadium might be ugly, but we’d still win huge.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Billy would love Scott Van Slyke.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I know I'm probably way wrong
But that seems a little much to trade for Gonzalez. If he walk rate was better I’d be more for it.
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your double or triple negative made my head explode. ;)
So you’re saying there’s a chance?
I could see one of those guys becoming starters some day.
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That’s just saying no prospect should ever be worth anything then unless they are a top 10 prospect, if even that.
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A non top 10 prospect isn’t worth a pitcher with four years until he hits free agency.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
and yet things like that happen pretty often
Not making it right, but it happens.
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Who was the last decent pitcher with four years of control to get traded?
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure. So he took two top 100 prospects and more to acquire.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the real question is:
Who was the last pitcher who was the best pitcher on his team, still had four years of team control and was traded for only minor league prospects?
I think the answer is zero.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
and I forgot about the years of control. Never mind
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
would Suzuki be better
out of that stadium?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
For instance
just now, the A’s traded one of the world’s strongest men:
Athletics trade RHP Trystan Magnuson to the Toronto #BlueJays for cash considerations.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Sent back to Toronto.
November 17, 2010: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays with Danny Farquhar to the Oakland Athletics for Rajai Davis.
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Strangest part is that Jemile Weeks is considered untradable.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He’s the best hitter on the team by a lot without Willingham. 9th best second basemen in OPS+ this year.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
35% hit rate, he’s a .265 hitter, doesn’t walk, middling power.
he’s okay, but hardly untradeble worthy. JMO
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Considering the A’s farm system you can’t fault Billy for thinking that’s an untradeable hitter.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be like Ned saying Dee Gordon is untradeable
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That seems to have been the company line for the past two years, yes
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s not saying it, but you know he’s thinking it.
There are two guys under 26 that OPSed .900 in the entire organization. One of those guys was a 23 year old who mashed A ball.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
*Why would anyone trade a guy who can go from the batter’s box to third on a bunt?
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by 68elcamino427 on Nov 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
1) because he can’t do that unless he runs the bases backwards.
2) Because his OBP is a bit low to fully utilize his speed on the basepaths.
3) Beacuse you can get somebody better than him.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
just curious
What is the normal for every team regarding minor league hitters under 26, OPS over 900? I’m going to assume you did not include the rookie leagues since your comment would not be accurate if you did.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe the minimum PA knocked the rookie league players out of my search.
Fine, there’s three players in the A’s organization that OPSed over .900 and one was a 22 year old in the AZL.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I would bet decent money that Ned does think Dee is untradeable.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure he does, doesn’t mean it would not be met with laughter by 29 other blog sites.
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I mean Mike Stanton is untradeble
Clayton Kershaw is untradeble
Justin Upton is untradeable
Matt Moore is untradeble
Jemile Weeks, not so much
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sure, but he could still be untradeable in terms of what you’d actually give up to get him.
I’m sure he’d change his mind if Evan Longoria got offered.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t everyone untradeble in terms of what you’d actually give up to get them. Everyone is tradeable if the terms are right, no one is tradeable if the terms suck.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He’s saying he values Jemile Weeks more than anyone else does.
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by regfairfield on Nov 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Evidently
He’s a crappy version of his brother. Gets hurt just as much, has a terrible SB%, has little power, doesn’t walk at all, hopefully he’s better defensively.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m shocked by the blowback on this. Jemile is slightly-better-than-average young middle infielder. If he’s lucky, he can have Mike Lansing’s career. Under no circumstances should Billy hang up if someone calls asking (even if he already got the answer he wants).
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Isn't he also a rookie who is 24?
So I could see why they are still high on him, too, despite whatever he needs to improve on.
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but yes I agree he shouldn't be totally untradeable depending on offer
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True or False
Billy Beane says Weeks is untradable, drives up price for Weeks, trades Weeks.
Bonus True or False: I’m thinking Billy Beane is more like the character of Billy Beane in the movie than he actually is in real life.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Billy Beane peaked so long ago as a GM this Billy Beane could learn something from Ned Colletti. Maybe if he stocks up on enough DH/1st Baseman he will finally find one who can hit better then Jamile Weeks.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
so
we should trade’em Songco?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Fits the mold. When Jacobs tears it up next year we can offer him both of them just as he releases Carter and Allen.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
who do we get?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Texas-sized amount of blame to go around there.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
TEXAS TOAST
Texas Rangers: The New Buffalo Bills
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
For Your Information
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Which novel by Sapphire is it based on?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Everybody loves money. That’s why they call it money.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear it’s gonna be a poor man’s Ocean’s Eleven
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
It was Certifiably Insane Eddie himself.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
but why does the ex-con have to be Murphy
I might go see it if Stiller and Murphy switched roles
but now, as it is cast, I can see the whole movie in my head without seeing any of it
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
but why does the ex-con have to be Murphy
Some questions answer themselves.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
but he’s right though. Stiller as ex-con would at least be interesting
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
This movie was not made to be interesting. This movie was made to be the equivalent of comfort food, easily eaten and swallowed. This movie is goldfish crackers.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
When I saw the print ads, with the smirk on Stiller’s face, I thought for sure that Stiller was gonna be the villain who gets robbed.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been smirked at because of my punch.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Cars 2 was goldfish crackers. I started texting before the third act
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s nothing wrong with goldfish crackers, by the way. I like goldfish crackers. But one shouldn’t eat goldfish crackers and wonder why it’s not epoisses on fresh bread served with figs and a glass of port. That’s all I’m saying.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
you mean a reverse Buddy cop movie, which is exactly what it’ll be?
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
While Mr. Stiller is a multi faceted actor, the one role he could probably not pull of is a street cred, ex – con.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I would like to direct your attention
to Heavyweights
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
St. Swithin’s Day.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I do hold my manhood cheap.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Alternate smartass comment:
St. Crispin’s Day is October 25.
BREAKING: FIELDER OUT FOR YEAR; EXPECTED TO SIGN DURING WORLD SERIES 2012
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions

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