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National League Rookie Of The Year: Craig Kimbrel Wins SB Nation Honors, Kenley Jansen Finishes Tied For 9th

Craig Kimbrel received 22 of 28 first-place votes in the SB Nation National League Rookie of the Year Award.

It is nearly that time of the year for baseball awards season, when for some reason the Baseball Writers Association of America waits more than two weeks after the season is over before announcing their awards. The final award this year is National League Most Valuable Player which will be awarded on Tuesday, November 22, a full 26 days after the day Game 7 of the World Series was scheduled.

The BBWAA won't begin announcing their awards until next Monday, but the SB Nation awards come this week. Various baseball writers around the network voted on these awards: 28 for the National League and 24 for the American League.

Up first are both SB Nation rookie of the year awards. Craig Kimbrel of the Atlanta Braves won the National League award pretty handily, while Michael Pineda of the Seattle Mariners took home American League honors. Here are the results:

SB Nation National League Rookie of the Year
Rank Name 1st 2nd 3rd Total
1 Craig Kimbrel 22 4 2 124
2 Danny Espinosa 4 6 8 46
3 Freddie Freeman 8 3 27
4 Vance Worley 1 5 3 23
5 Wilson Ramos 1 2 5 16
6 Brandon Beachy 1 4 7
7 Cory Luebke 1 3
7 Lucas Duda 1 3
9 Kenley Jansen 1 1
9 Mark Melancon 1 1
9 Allen Craig 1 1

Kenley Jansen picked up a single third place vote, and it didn't come from me or Phil Gurnee. Andrew Martin, friend of True Blue LA from Purple Row, gave Jansen his lone vote, and Jansen finished tied for ninth.

Our ballots were like so:

  • Me: Kimbrel, Worley, Espinosa
  • Phil: Kimbrel, Duda, Freeman

Star-divide

Here are the American League results:

SB Nation American League Rookie of the Year
Rank Name 1st 2nd 3rd Total
1 Michael Pineda 9 4 3 60
2 Eric Hosmer 5 4 3 40
3 Jeremy Hellickson 4 5 4 39
4 Dustin Ackley 1 5 3 23
5 Ivan Nova 5 5 20
6 Alexi Ogando 2 1 13
7 Mark Trumbo 1 3 8
8 Desmond Jennings 1 2 7
9 Brett Lawrie 1 1 6

Points were awarded as follows: five points for a first place vote, three points for a second place vote, and one point for a third place vote.

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First comment sets the tone!

So: Kittens. Specifically, their ability to play baseball.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

GScott should have been all over this one.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Nov 7, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I know the video you’re thinking of, but youtube is blocked here

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

But Mark Trumbo has all those dingerzzzz and RBIzzzzz.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 7, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

Try this one Taylor

I hope the SBN NL Rookie of the Year Award was worth it for Fredi to abuse this kid enough that they couldn’t finish the NL Wild Card.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

NL West Trade!
#Royals acquire LHP Jonathan Sanchez and Ryan Verdugo from Giants for OF Melky Cabrera.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Nice deal for KC. Not sure how much the Giants save on this.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope Sanchez wins AL CYA

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

He has the ability to be great or be Oliver Perez. Worth the gamble for them, I thought they were just going to non tender Melky after signing Frenchy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably like $4mm – $5mm?

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Trying to save some $$ for a bigger bat?

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That is what I’ve been reading

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

they got Melky

WHAT MORE COULD THEY WANT?!?! :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

probably less than that. Cabrera made $1.25 last year and is going back to arb where he should be able to pull $3-4mil, Sanchez is hitting arb again and projects by MLBTR to earn $5.2mil.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

MLBTR projects melky at $4.4mil through arb. Hard to imagine the Giants and Royals not trying to extend these two.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Well either Cots is wrong or MLBTR is dumb. Cots says Sanchez made $4.8mm last year. No way he only goes up to $5.2mm

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow big win for KC!

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously? This just happened?

by OB12 on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

LE GASP!!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Amazingly, Cabera had a fucking good year last year. Hopefully he turns into the Melk man that cant play ball so good.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

He did, but I’d rather have Sanchez ceiling then bank on him doing it again.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

guess this means

Zito is back in the rotation.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, of course. i was just shocked to see how nice of a year Melky had last year. There should be no way he replicates that, and kudos to KC for getting something of value for him.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 7, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

career highs across the board, and he’s going to be 27, perfect age for his power to keep developing. Almost went 20-20 last year and he did it with the handicap of not getting to face royals pitching.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

So they got Sanchez and a future LOOGY for Melky Cabrera?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Where does Melky play in the OF for them next year? And would this move Surkamp in to the rotation if nobody else is signed? and Zito up to #4??

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

another excuse

not to play Belt

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Lincecum
Bumgarner
Cain
Vogelsong
Zito/Surkamp

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah, forgot Vogelsing. Trading from a strength.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

CF?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

did people forget torres sucks again?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

My guess would be

LF Belt
CF Cabrera
RF Beltran

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

stop it

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

No No No

They can’t have Beltran

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I would much rather see them get Beltran than Reyes or Fielder.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Fielder would be fun to hate at least

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

18 chances a year for him to charge a Dodger

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I just have this imagine of Fielder being a 8 year, 180mil committment that turns into Milton Bradley.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It would suck for Prince / Panda to be the corners for the Giants because I could so easily root for them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

and would suck when they teamed up for 50+ homers for like year after year

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

50 might just be Prince hitting into a 308ft RF wall.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, and I want to be able to throw pork chops at him

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

lol Giants

this is a great deal for the royals

by shaqfor3 on Nov 7, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Duda had the 2nd highest wRC among NL rookies with over 250 at bats.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

the camp town ladies

sing that song

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Camptown races all day long

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

It's

Camptown racetrack’s 5 miles long

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

glad to see you didn’t mail in your votes like the Rockies blogger did. :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

My rationale

I wanted to give Jansen a 3rd place vote, but I just went with bulk.

I thought Worley was really good, and his 132 innings trumped Jansen’s 54. Kimbrel was great, arguably better than Jansen over the whole season, and had 77 innings, 43% more than Jansen.

Same with Espinosa over Duda. 658 PA over 347 PA, and Espinosa gets extra credit for being a middle infielder.

But it was close for me.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

No problems with the voting of anyone’s top three just trying to rationalize my vote of Duda since it is a bit of an outlier compared to every other vote. Heck if I didn’t vote him 2nd he would not have even made the top 10

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I just wanted to include it here since I didn’t mention it in the post.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

There is something very wrong about the SBN Worley page.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

First was Allen Craig right?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

No, and he got no top 10 votes. I’m guessing because he only had 267 at bats, but he was easily the best hitting rookie of 2011.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=nl&qual=250&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011&ind=2&team=0&players=0

Rizzo got love
Blanks got love
Guzman got no love but he got a bat in 2011 that Brandon Belt wishes he had.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

not eligible (though FanGraphs might have showed him)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Fangraph have it’s own criteria on what makes a rookie?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

If they just used AB, Craig didn’t have 130 before 2011. But he exhausted his rookie eligibility through service time, but nobody seems to track that.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

i wonder if Guzman has done the same?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Guzman was still a rookie

12 days of non-September service time and 20 AB prior to 2011.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

SB Nation writers can’t bag on BBWAA anymore…Alexi Ogando = not a rookie

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

Right, I was going to say something when I saw that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

NL SBNation writers can

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

and we should.

I thought last year when we did it, we were given a list of players and simply check marked them, but this year we had to hand write or am I completely wrong on this?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe you are wrong

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that just your opinion or do you have something to back that up with?

/ivdownlately

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh

I am 99% sure it was a blank form to write in names.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That is what my Mom said:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Tedious

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

If only they had a support staff to write tech stuff

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Refresh. Images/pictures need subject titles please

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

I don't know if that trade is *that* bad from Giants perspective, since they had room to unload Sanchez, but Ken doesn't like it.

Heh.

kenarneson Ken Arneson
OK, I’m back to thinking Brian Sabean sucks.

Cabrera potentially will be better than Torres. Rowand etc but still think Melky’ll regress a bit playing in that park and other NL West parks. Sanchez still has great upside even if his wildness remains an issue.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

he will play 18 games in hitters parks (Coors, AZ). Dodger Stadium is more on the pitchers park ledger than hitters. So (81 + 9 + 9) = 99 in NL West pitchers parks.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

How does that compare to the AL Central? Aren’t CLE, DET, and MIN pitcher’s parks while KC and CHW are hitter’s? correct me if my assumptions are off.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I understand that, I’m asking what the parks are like since I don’t know for certain.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

as a whole the AL Central parks are neutral without the wild swings the NL West has with (COL, AZ) on one end and (SF, SD and LAN to a lesser degree) on the other.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Just on home parks alone

per Baseball-Reference:

SF: multi-year 94/93; one year 89
KC: multi-year 99/100; one year 101

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Min is pitchers

ChiSox, KC and CLE are neutral, smack dab in the middle, and the DET is mildly a hitter’s park

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

forgot detroit moved the fences in a few years ago

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I forgot that he plays much more in ATT

I was just thinking the division as a whole.

But Dodger stadium isn’t as much of a difference as ATT or PETCO

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, DS not as extreme as ATT or Petco. DS supresses the shit out of triples.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

until Dee brings it back.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

as long as he doesn’t bring it back on the road too. :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That is because our Gold Glove outfield defense catches all of them

/notreally

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

It’s not an LOL trade or anything, and could end up helping the Giants greatly, especially if it helps them free up money to sign another bat.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

seems like a calculated risk

for both sides.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Right it could end up also just being "meh" for both teams.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha!

A mini-Napoli workaround.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Sanchez is bringing Matt dominguez with him from KC.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t Dominguez on Florida? Moustakas is on KC.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

good call. get them confused.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess that means Lucas May didn’t work out for them?

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s in the D-back system now

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I think KC “won” the deal so to speak, but the move makes a lot of sense for the Gnats. They get a decent player back who will play just about every day, and if they just saved $4mm that will go to a real impact bat then its the right move to make.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

its a win if sanchez goes back to being good

and cabrera goes back to being bad. If they both just repeat last year giants win

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the BRewers said no

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW Jay Jaffe not a fan either
jay_jaffe Jay Jaffe
And the winner of the Brian Sabean Memorial Award for the Most Sabean-Like Move of the Day goes to Brian Sabean

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to assume these moves to set up other moves, the GMs make them knowing they’re going to get blasted.

I mean hell, how do you think sanchez feels right now?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I regret that I have but one rec to give this comment

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

2015 World Champs is all but assured now.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

More Melk-ing for all its worth

(via Jaffe) the average take of four different defensive systems (UZR, DRS, FRAA, TZ) was that Melky was -11 runs in the field in 2011

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure sanchez is pissed off

but considering his aim I hope he doesn’t try to throw anything

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ZoroasterGurnee

Teams who start to unload excess pitching because they think they have excess pitching will be hard pressed to find a five man rotation come August.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Or even April

/Dodgers2011

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Its interesting how many relievers are starting to win the ROY award

Not to take anything away from the spectacular season that Kimbrel had but closers are too hyped these days IMO.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

that second sentence could have been dated 1987.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose, but its much worse now though. Kimbrel is going to be 3rd closer in three years to win it.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

easier for pitchers to come in throwing hard and be successful in smaller sample sizes, i would think.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly

none of that facing hitters 3 times in a game shit that starters have to deal with

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

and, “oh, you’ve pitched twice in a row? here, take today and tomorrow off. go get a massage or something, on me”

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

or the “if he throws that pitch again his neck is going to get whiplash turning around so fast watching that fucker fly into the seats”

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Right that is what I’m getting at.

Kimbrel’s season was outstanding, so I don’t want to say he doesn’t deserve it, but it is so much more difficult to come in as a position player or SP and have an impact.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

nice to know that the role is consistently over valued

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

IIRC not that it is the be-all, end-all, but Kimbrel did lead NL rookies in Baseball-Reference WAR with 3.0

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Allen Craig also wasn't eligible

By my rough count he had 57 days of pre-September service time in 2010, more than the required 45.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

wow

I thought Melky Cabrera was over 30 already

by eitherethier on Nov 7, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Me too.

I thought he was an aging veteran.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

“Melky” sounds gold

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I did, but will play it as it lays

It is short for “god-damned old”

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I assumed part of his pregame meal was Melk of Magnesia.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

this is why we like you

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Melk Abbey in Austria wants to be included here but I can’t think of a good pun.

by berkowit28 on Nov 7, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

“The Yankees are so dumb, they’re screwing over Melky Cabrera by signing Johnny Damon”

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Melky had 706 PAs last year

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

his babip was 30 points higher then his career norm

I have no idea if any of this means anything

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

No doubt, the odds are in favor of the Giants “losing” this trade. But the reaction (on Twitter, not necessarily here) is a little too LOL and rush-to-judgment-y for my tastes.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure there’s a chance the Giants might come out ahead, but Sabean has to be the first guy to make a clearly bad deal with Dayton Moore.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the Rockie GM owns that distinction last year when Moore fleeced Paulino from him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Considering almost all of his improvement was batting average based, it means tons.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not touching any babip posts here in fear of the xBabip.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

he doesn’t want to be an xzibit on the ambiguity of advanced stats

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

See, exactly

I hate it when people quote BABIP without checking xBABIP.

Because a hitter squaring up on the ball more is different than a hitter watching bloopers fall in and grounders skate under gloves.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish FG had xBabip. I don’t even know where to look for hit. HBT?

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

No idea.

Just a hint: His LD% went up 1.3%, and his HR/FB went from 3.1 % to 9.8 %, so he was hitting the ball harder.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe. A big increase is line drive percentage is worth caring about but something so minor is probably just noise. His line drives went up, but so did his popups so his xBABIP is probably the same as it always was.

Most of the time the best thing to do is regress a guy to his career BABIP.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

you could contribute by

a) telling us what his xBABIP is
b) tell us how to check it ourselves.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Expected batting average on balls in play. Basically it’s what BABIP should be based on line drive percentage, ground balls, flyballs, popups, etc.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/fantasy/article/simple-xbabip-calculator/

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

not what it is, but what was his?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like .333 if I did it right.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT WHAT WAS IT FOR HIS CAREER

I DEMAND YOU TO DO IT FOR EVERY YEAR HE PLAYED. please

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You sound like Spawn.

I WANT MILK GET IT NOW please

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

do you have to say

“what do we say when we want something?” before she’ll say please

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe Melky’s career xBABIP is .331. I entered no park info though, as this calculator is a few years old, so take it with a grain of salt.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It was .332 this year

See? Saying his BABIP rose is misleading, he actually hit better.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m all for any analysis that leads to Melky Cabrera Giants center fielder.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

FWIW, Matt Kemp’s xBABIP was .354, compared to his actual BABIP of .380.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

but can we compare babip to xbabip

or do we have to compare xbabip to xbabip

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

he more meant “Matt Kemp should have BABIPd .354, but instead was at .380. He did better than his peripherals suggest he should have, but he was still pretty F-ing good”

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Untucked dress shirts

Bad idea or no? I’ll typically tuck in the under shirt but that’s it.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Business: bad

Casual: accountant.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Real lesson: don’t ask a bunch of dorks on a baseball blog for fashion tips.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

it depends what look you're going for

seriously

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, accountant, or normal person.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

what ever you meant, i take offense :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

it completely depends on the shirt

and the length of the shirt

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

No such thing as an untucked dress shirt.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

"button up shirt"

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Can be OK with jeans and a V-neck sweater over top.

by OB12 on Nov 7, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

yes!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm wearing a Stafford today

It’s a bit dressier than my usual attire, but I loathe tucking something like this in. So I’m just letting it hang loose with a white Fruit of the Loom underneath.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

is your undershirt at least tucked in?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

leading the witness into an area NOGASA

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

assuming the shirt doesn't have really long tail

then you are probably fine

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

your work allows you

to wear Lions jersies?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Nov 7, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

tuck in your shirt

and shave that shit off your face

consider a sport coat while you are at it

and don’t drink shitty alcohol

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Man you would hate Brooklyn.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I am down with Brooklyn, spent summers there are a kid seeing family

but I am not “of Brooklyn” neither in the stereo-typical marine park goomba sense nor in the wispy bearded hipster of Williamsburg sense nor in the park slope yuppie sense

but Brooklyn is ok with me

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, I was obviously joking because these days if you hopped off the train in Brooklyn, this is what you would see:

untucked shirts (flannel only)

shit all over every face

no sport coats

shitty alcohol

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

what are guys wearing?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

there is little to no distinction

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

and keep that phone off your belt Batman

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

This was my favorite one.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

i’ve lost my phone which may force me into the smartphone era.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to the party pal.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I was working a

“Finally lost the shoe, eh Max?”

but the phone rang

damn work

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

still

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

would have continued a great run by you.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

You ask for miracles

I give you AT&T

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s what got me finally. old phone crashed.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

So many choices
IPhone 4
Droid Razr
Droid Bionic

Or buy someone’s castoff who wants one of the newest smartphones.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

wait 1 week

and get the Galaxy Nexus instead of any of those posers.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m traveling by Nov 18th, can’t wait that long, isn’t it not available until after Nov 20th?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Though I have to say it might be worth the extra wait.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been waiting for it for months

its driving me bonkers

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess thats the latest rumor

first it was after black friday then it was the 17th now its the 21st. Fuggin A. The Rzr will probably get ICS early next year anyways(Android 4.0)

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

will your phone company give you the latest model free?

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like I can upgrade to an Incredible 2 for 99.00

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't get the bionic unless its as a money saving measure

assuming the razr doesn’t end up being a buggy pos.

Forget the iphone 4 too, you would be better off with a Win Phone 7

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I will never own a Windows Phone

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I got a Droid Incredible 2 a couple weeks ago and love it.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I did too. I loved the first Incredible but ended getting bitten by a known problem.

by OB12 on Nov 7, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

incredible spiders

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

doesn't have 4g

but many people probably don’t care

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought 4G was fake.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

LTE is real

many times though 4g was a bs moniker.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m still on the original droid incredible and love it. When it’s time to upgrade, will be getting Incredible 2

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

If you start experiencing random reboots, make sure you press Verizon to get you an upgrade.

by OB12 on Nov 7, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

the rezound comes out the 14th

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I first read this as “the rezound comes out in the 14th,” and I thought it was part of the crazy “How would you change the World Series” thread.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he misspelled “rebound”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

don't shoot the messenger

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I was working out this morning

and I didn’t feel like I had a lot of garlic last night but I certainly smelled like I did.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Nov 7, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

at least you kept those damn vampires away

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

She’s been watching Buffy Season 1 lately, I’m sure it factored into her meal prep.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

OMG

the production values on Season 1 are so much lower than the rest of the series. It’s so dark, and some of the monsters are downright campy. Still Angel is a classics classic as is Out of Sight, Out of Mind

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I did enjoy seeing 17 year old Agent Booth

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

but he looks so young!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I always get that show mixed up with Veronica Mars

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

both excellent shows. The WB was real good at the young female oriented shows, but the CW has been a terrible amount of terrible

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

both shows my wife enjoyed that I mostly didn’t pay attention to

in both cases, I found the “not classically” blondes in both shows to be quirky and cute. Attractive beyond the obvious

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

other then Buffy

was SMG ever in anything without being annoying?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

There was the NYC rich kid remake of Dangerous Liaisons which was bad, but enjoyably so

Um, she is in some TV now that I will not watch unless mama says so, um…what else am I to judge her on?

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

she was in Suburban Girl with Alec Baldwin, an adaptation of A Girl’s Guide To Hunting And Fishing

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

remind me

next time they are airing that on Lifetime so I can be sure to be out of the house

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That one episode of The Simpsons where she was Bart’s girlfriend.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

voice work excluded

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The first season of Veronica Mars was an excellent show. The second season was not as good. The third season completely lost its way.

The mythical fourth season — which was going to jump forward in time, with Veronica having graduated college and joined the FBI — would have been an anathema.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Wearing with jeans? Untuck.

Tuck with dress pants/khakis.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Take fashion advice from an 18 year old lefty at your own peril.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Theres nothing wrong with it

if you want to look like an 18 year old lefty. /sniggers

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

This is how I dress, basically, but I have long since stopped giving a shit about what I look like when I leave the house. I realize I look like an idiot who doesn’t know how to dress himself. Don’t care.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless

headed for a TBLA outing

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha.

But seriously, what’s your’s?

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Typically? Long-sleeved button up tucked in, black slacks, black belt, black socks, polishied black dress shoes, clean shaven.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

x
button up

Button up? Button UP? Button DOWN! It’s always been a button down! I mean…

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

they are really just shirts.

this need to signify them by if they have buttons is a relatively modern – like last 20 years – phenomena

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

" So, what’s fair, Mr. Dooubleday?"

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Nov 7, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

No client – Jeans, dress shirt, sport coat, brown shoes

Client, not a hospital – Wool or cotton trousers (seasonally dependent) dress shirt, sport coat, brown shoes

Hospital – Suit and Tie, black or brown shoes

Weekend – generally tuck in my shirt, except when wearing shorts.

and even though I am not “skinny”, and I don’t wear tragically hip skinny, I do wear slim cuts which I find more comfortable and flattering

Growing up working at Nordstrom, combined with being in exec / sales roles, combined with a natural appreciation for clothing, has made me a bit of a clothes horse.

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what i'd go with for anything formal.

Except I sport a beard for now, but I’d shave fresh otherwise.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not for me, it’s for my boss. Lately I’ve been wearing black cotton pants, tucked in polo.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

hopefully no pleats. will make you look fat.

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Long sleeve button-down, untucked, sleeved rolled up
jeans
black belt, tattered and worn the leather peeling
black socks
casual black shoes
clean shaven on Monday, not so much by Friday

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Polo thats one size too big
Khaki pants that are 2 inches too short in the legs
black belt
black dress shoes
timex easy reader with nato strap
black socks if they are clean, white if otherwise

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedal-pushers and a frilly blouse

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Luck hype
evansilva
Mike Mayock on #Stanford QB Andrew Luck: “From my perspective, this kid has everything you look for in a Pro Bowl-potential quarterback.”

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Saying he has pro-bowl potential seems perfectly reasonable. On the radio the other day, Kiper was suggesting he was heading for Canton.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

ignore kiper

profit. There is no step 3.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Your Texans D has been money in my fantasy league. Wade Phillips rocks!

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, that reminds me when Kiper said the same thing about Mike Williams.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully he will be as sad at his last Big Game as the previous HoF-bound Cardinal was.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I for one

am looking forward to the revised revisionist position on Luck and him impact on the European debt crisis

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

When he signs his contract, he can buy Greece.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

100% of the media think he’s the next Payton Manning.

by Julio Nievas on Nov 7, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think

he’s the next Phil Simms either

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll put on my homer hat and point out that if he did become the next Phil Simms that would be one heck of a career (borderline HOF’er.)

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

No question

I just laughed at the word play of Marty

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Morehead State fan, huh?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re all fans of Morehead.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Laptop power cord stopped working, so I get to use my netbook until the new cord arrives (hopefully tomorrow). This machine is SLOW.

by fbihop on Nov 7, 2011 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

49ers

12-4 is their floor. Amazing year.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

If their floor tilts at a 12-4 angle

That is some shoddy construction.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

They could also hit the floor

if they trip over their untucked shirt-tail

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know that the Niners were from Brooklyn.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

they could lose out

and it wouldn’t matter anyways, they have essentially locked up that division with 7 wins

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I look forward to them losing their home playoff game after their bye.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I heard that it is very easy to die of exposure in January’s bitter chill

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Harbaugh is a douchebag, but he’s a winning douchebag

by Julio Nievas on Nov 7, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I take comfort in the memory of his crumbled sad face when the Steelers held off his Colt comeback in the AFC Championship game

that was a great Steeler team, fucking Neil O’Donnell

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Slash!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably not. Texans’ O-Line is the NFL’s best, too.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if we have the Best overall o line

we might have the best run blocking line though

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I am

Surprised that Magic came in second in that LA Times vote of greatest Los Angeles Sports Figures.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 7, 2011 12:06 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Coulda been dumber

Coulda been something like “the fans”

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I got your ball-peen hammer

swingin

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

what do they call the opposite side of the claw hammer Josie?

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The handle

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

a hammer has three parts, the face, the peen, and the handle

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m missing something with these handles and balls, aren’t I?

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

its funny cause

penis

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

“Cause these, aren’t the hammer”
“the hammer, is my penis”

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Going to be a long winter

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

especially if you don’t tuck in that shirt

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No sleep

til Brooklyn

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone is giving out awards now

MLB.com picked a player, pitcher, and breakout player from each team. The Dodgers winners:

Kemp
Kershaw
Kenley

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

Great nickname for them

KKK

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

If Kenley is a breakout player then no one noticed what he did in 2010

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Reasonable to count an in-season turnaround as a breakout, or at least a longer-sample validation of the previous year.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Too bad Belisario never showed up. He’s always my vote for breaking out.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Benoit broke out in a big way for Tigers

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric - has SbNation

commented yet on the fact they wiped everyone’s history prior to July and what they plan on doing about it?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Haven’t seen anything, no

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone care?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I care. It was a real pain in the ass to find that Clippers fanpost I wrote earlier in 2011.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone’s previous history has been wiped; it’s just the search tool doesn’t go back further than July.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, which kind of makes it a blunt tool

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I need a blunt tool. My weed gets all over the floor without one.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what you need

a ball-peen blunt tool

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

useful for killing rats and snakes and the whomping upside the head the occasional burglar but not much else.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

varmits

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

and sech

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I found

that you can carry a baseball bat in your car as long as you also have a glove

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

/tipsfromthemafia

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

meet the new boss

same as the old boss

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the few real bad GMs gone. Sad day.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

In Memorium

Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett for Delmon Young and Brendan Harris
Johan Santana for Carlos Gomez
RA Dickey for nothing
Carlos Gomez for JJ Hardy which was good but turned into
JJ Hardy for nothing
Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps
Jose Morales for nothing which shouldn’t matter but it lead to Drew Butera getting 250 at bats and he might be the worst hitter of all time.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take the wins. Who do you want, a guy who’s 10-15 with a 2.80 ERA or a guy who’s 16-8 with a 7.00 ERA? I’ll take the 16-8.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

hee hee

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Also paying Slowey 2,000,000 to pitch in the minor leagues while giving starts to:
Scott Diamond
Nick Blackburn

Mauer contract

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Traded Hardy for nothing and replacing him with Tsuyoshi Nishioka
Gave Nick Blackburn a four year extension.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Ryan really is just a temporary thing and they’re looking to hire from within so the Twins are still gonna be bad.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Too bad, too, because wasn't Ryan a damned good GM if I recall?

Made a lot of great trades.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

made one anyway

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

More than one, or at least quite a few solid ones

besides the AJP trade with Giants there was:
minor leaguer Jared Camp and cash to the Florida Marlins in exchange for future Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana (a Rule 5 draft trade but still…)
Bobby Kielty for Shannon Stewart helped the Twins a lot at least one year.
Traded for David Ortiz, too, tho Ortiz didn’t really take off til he was in Boston.
Picking up Joe Mays for Roberto Kelly
OF Brian Buchanan, shortstop Cristian Guzman, pitcher Eric Milton from Yankees for Knoblauch was a solid trade

He at least made a lot of solid trades vs very few bad ones…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I compliment the Ravens on their win

and also point out that celebrating by pouring gatorade on their coach for a regular season win is also bush

and the definition of a “catch”, what is reviewable, and the small target allowed to DBs and the flags that come even when helmet to helmet is not met is ruining the football experience for me

fuck, fuck, FUCK

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

football is becoming less fun, but I think the worst is listening to announcers tell you how football is being ruined while you’re watching football. During replays and injuries they should show like Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny cartoons

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If you take the paralysis out of the game

You’ve taken all the fun out.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Tatum

would not enjoy today’s game

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 7, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind the rule change, but make it reviewable if everything else is reviewable

Early in the game, Hines Ward makes a catch, gets knocked out. No penalty for the helmet to helmet but they review the catch and decide, somehow, that it isn’t a catch. Well, if they are deciding that, than maybe they should look at the infraction that knocked him out

Later in the game Ryan Clark lays wood on a WR, shoulder first – but at game speed you cannot see it, not reviewable, 15 yards on 3rd down for a first down

I watch a lot of football, a lot. I no longer know what will be reviewed as a catch or not – that is a problem.

and yes, the Ravens won last night.

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure the defender is being fined today.

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

what does that matter for the outcome of the game

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought all guy liked oldschool head crushing football. thought you would like it.

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

HJ is an old guy?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

he was on the old guy softball team

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

as were you

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

and Eric

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

and I just want to say none of you have lived long enough to have earned the “old guy” stripe.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, was that an HJ approved comment?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure – that is in the public domain

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, but everyone here is so touchy about spoilers wasn’t sure that we wanted to crush the spirit of those who had an HJ image of a viral young man:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

dude, I tested negative

besides, I am working old(er) and sexy. My shit still sells to the younger generation

ha!

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I do like it

but the human side of me doesn’t like my enjoyment leading to a bunch of veggies – what happened to Mike Webster and so many other football players has me tempering my likes with being a good person

so I don’t mind the rule – I think it is working

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I gave up boxing about 15 years ago. I’m still a lousy person

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, but not as lousy as you could be

I loved Boxing – I still love the idea of boxing, the romance of the imagined purity of man versus man – but yeah…not so much for me anymore

I saw the Mancini vs Kim fight on WW of Sports. I was never so entertained and excited, and never have forgotten it for what happened next

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

How much did y’all lose on the game last night? :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanford’s WR being taken off in an ambulance while the announcers told us how stupid it was that the fumble was taken away was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen as a human being. Mickey Mouse would have been a huge improvement

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on, when those guys go down there is like 10 – 15 minutes of dead time they have to fill. I guess a producer could have a 15 montage of all the players who have been paralyzed in his pocket ready to go.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

To add on that, I like how later the announcers were subtly suggesting that the player who made the hit on the Stanford WR was then targeting by Stanford players for retaliation (where there was no evidence at all to suggest that.)

It was a classic, “I’m not saying, I’m just saying” type announcing.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was very weak announcing.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Short of taking away all the pads and playing it rugby style, you can’t take the paralysis out of the game anyway. Pads make the game more dangerous, but that’s the game. All these tweaks are silly since you can’t stop something that happens with a moving target within a fraction of a second.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the rule changes are largely working in the NFL – DBs are taking their target level largely down

but to have that be such a big penalty and not reviewable….when everything else is

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

players start wearing pads to prevent injury, allowing for harder hits which can result in super injuries. Just like antibiotic soap breeding superviruses

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Did shin guards cause the slide tackle?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

technically

if your slide tackle hits player before ball, that’s a foul

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Translation

(as someone who has been in this position many times myself)

“My team lost last night”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes the what is a “catch” and the incessant penalties on DB’s are my two biggest pet peeves right now.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

that and the kickers:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that at all levels PI needs to be re-written.

I hate it so much. I want to see some allowance of molestation.

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The Penn State clause

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Gross is my middle name

I’m waiting for Smokin Joe to go, so I can post Down goes Frazier!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't been on the Tweety

much lately

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

nor Facebook really

I think I’ve reached saturation (if not maturation) point

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

defensive holding should not be a automatic first down. Just 5 yards.

PI should not be a spot foul, but 15 yds

and they should call more on the offense for pushing off (like that is going to happen)

FUCKKKKKKKKKK

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s my motivation as a DB for not pushing you, the WR, out of the way of that 35 yard pass?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the counter-argument, but it doesn’t seem like a huge problem in college football.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

same as college

15 yards and a 1st down

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Because if you play defense and knock the ball away or break it up, the offense gains 0 yards

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

but if I’m clearly beat, why not just sucker punch the receiver and give them 15 yards instead of the spot? Maybe it happens to quickly to actively think that?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

And if you’re that clearly beat, you probably aren’t close enough to sucker punch the dude

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If you are clearly beat, are you even in position to make such a decision/play?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. You can grab a guy as he is running by you. It happens often when DB’s react to play fakes.

by VegasBlues on Nov 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s probably just illegal contact anyway.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It really depends on the fake the DB is biting on. If he is biting on a pass fake then yes. If he is watching the receiver and gets faked by him while the ball is in the air then no.

Think of fade passes to the corner of the endzone. On almost all of those the WR fakes a quick step over the middle. Sometimes the DB bites on the fake and can’t recover and will grab the WR. This happens quite often actually on similar type plays.

by VegasBlues on Nov 7, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dunta Robinson!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

See Robinson, Dunta

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You go 15 yards

and whaddya get? Another play older and deeper in debt.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what Alexander Hamilton said to try to convince Aaron Burr, but to no avail.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No. Lesser of spot foul and 15 yards

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree on PI. I personally hate the rule in college football. It gives such a huge advantage to DB’s. What is considered PI needs to be changed though. Often times the DB and WR collide while going for the ball. Why does it seem the WR has more of a right to their position than a DB does? I know the rule says they both have the right to go for the ball, but it’s rarely called that way.

by VegasBlues on Nov 7, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Its called spotty

but preferably its the DB getting punished for not playing the ball and thus running through the WR.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, they need to change the penalties so that the ticky-tack bullshit they call is just a 10 or 15 yard penalty and not spot of the foul. It should only be spot of the foul if its like a DB blatantly bear hugging or dragging down a receiver.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. And same with penalty kicks in soccer. Kick the penalty kick from three different spots depending on severity of the foul. No easy gimmes for a possible dive.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

that I disagree with. The only auto-penalties are in the box, the needed change is better refereeing

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My one major problem with soccer penalty kicks is with hand balls in the box. If it’s blatant and the defender was definitely trying to stop a pass or shot with his arm or hands then sure. Often times the defender has no choice in it hitting him though. Never did like that call.

by VegasBlues on Nov 7, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

a fairly routine trip or hand ball in the box farthest from the goal and a trip or hand ball on the touch line that may have kept a goal from scoring carry the same penalty. They are both penalty kicks. I think that is wrong. If both need to be penalty kicks then take the kick on the lesser foul from further out. You would in turn have something like a 90%, 60% and 25% chance of making the kick depending on if it was a first, second or third degree penalty in the box. Makes perfect sense to me. :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

PK from wherever the ball was kicked from :)

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

but you’re turning an already subjective system into and even more subjective one…and you’re forcing teams to take a penalty kick from a spot where an indirect free kick makes more sense

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Josie – your PHD should be to take the best of all the sports and make one to unify them. All limbs must participate.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Why does it make more sense? You have this magic rectangular box in which the goalie can use his hands and you use this as the basis for determining penalty kicks? The status Kuo makes no sense.

Not all penalties in the box are equal. Yet, they all get the same result a direct free kick from close range. Not hard to have three spots at which to take kicks from such that you still have a good chance of scoring, yet not all weighted the same. I think this makes it easier for the refs as a penalty kick call is not an all or nothing anymore.

And this is coming for an experienced soccer die-hard.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The status Kuo makes no sense.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

Status Guo is the preferred nomenclature

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

18 of us nod in appreciation, 398 paddle on in ignorance.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

you don’t need to defend your claim to your opinion, I respect you as a soccer person. I just think, right now the refs have power in that they can give penalty kicks. But they also have the power not to give them. If you give a system where some of these current no calls end up being a penalty situation but from farther away, it gives the refs too much power over the game. I’m sure the average penalties per game is less than 1 in most major competitions, and that number would rise if there were different kinds of penalties to give

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see where it gives them too much power, and I don’t see this as something to even focus on. What it gives to me is fairness in a logical sense. You had a great chance of scoring but got fouled in the penalty box, you kick from the 90% spot. I you had a decent chance of scoring, you kick from the 60% spot. You had a very little chance of scoring but were fouled or there was a non flagarant hand ball in the box then you kick from the 25% spot. Crime fits the penalty now. Right now you have lots of wierd stuff going on in the box with refs calling a foul that was in the box, but moving the ball just outside the box because he doesn’t want to give a PK. So they are already making stuff up.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

but what constitutes a great chance of scoring? If a player has the ball on his weak foot, is that a 60% penalty? If the player has his back to the goal, but he’s known to have an excellent spin, is that a 90% penalty? That’s what I’m getting at.

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You have four shades now, instead of just two where those two have HUGE swings in scoring probability (90% vs close to 0%). It is always a subjective call. Is now and always will be. So now you allow for different degrees. It will be more accurate than the old system as mistakes will be smaller. Kind of like when a team kicks a field goal, they don’t always get to kick it from the 10 yard line. They kick it from further away if they are further from scoring a TD.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll put up a Fanpost

at your site one day after I get all the details figured out.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

actually hooray is another form of hurrah which is an alteration of huzzah : )

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the percentage on goals scored on penalty kicks at the top levels of the game? Soccer-Reference dot com is down right now.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know, one thing is for sure though

You can always trust the judgement of a soccer ref. They’re totes fair.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t change any of the rules regarding awarding penalty kicks. Allow the goal keeper to do whatever he wants once the whistle blows and treat it like a spot kick during a tie breaker- the play is dead once the ball is scored or parried safely away. The resulting advantages for the defending team should mitigate some of the injustice.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 7, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

anything to further reduce the out of control scoring in Futball must be implemented.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

All games should be like Alabama-LSU. Then I wouldn’t feel a need to watch them.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

like foul and flagrant foul in basketball. Did he grab the player’s jersey? spot foul. Did he jump into the defender? 15 yards. Did I accidentally blow my whistle while trying to flag down the frozen lemonade vendor? 10 yards, suckah.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

And basketball referees botch the shit out of those judgement calls all the time too.

Bringing this back to baseball, maybe we should go with computers calling balls and strikes since it’s really the only mainstream sport where we can drastically reduce the human error of the officiating.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

also make the foul lines lasers that sound a buzzer if it lands foul. Same with foul home runs. The foul pole is now a laser sensor.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate in Basketball, that they can review if player A went out of bounds, but cannot review if player A went out of bounds due to a foul by player B

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I would so put a coach into the HOF who the next time was dumped with gatorade kicked the players in the ball with a steel toe boot.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just here to pimp my movie review... nothing else to see here :-)

http://www.picktainment.com/blog/2011/11/review-melancholia/

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

Everyone is a blogger:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting premise given the current state of the rock (air craft carrier size) about to fly between the earth and the moon tomorrow night. It is kind of amazing to me how they track these things so precisely that they know the next time a rock will show up again, seems it is not until 2036 when an known entity will be orbiting close enough to the Earth to be a possible threat.

At that point I hope you people who are championshipless in your lifetime have one to hold onto:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Question

How would a planet, much less one that is hurtling towards the Earth, get named Melancholia? That would never happen in real life. When I read that in another article I immediately wrote off the movie. It being made by Lars von Trier was another nail in the coffin for me.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap, our movie sucks. Kirsten, you do nude I’ll throw in an extra 100k

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Only the depressants called it that.

Just reading the review i couldn’t help but think that since

"a mental condition and especially a manic-depressive condition characterized by extreme depression, bodily complaints, and often hallucinations and delusions."

that this was all halluciantion and delusion.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

ok

That’s interesting

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

you’re right, movies should focus on getting that unobtainium

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get me started on Avatar

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Its’ moon was named Infinite Sadness?

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Nov 7, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Puss In Boots

this weekend. Got the kids combo for $5.25 (small popcorn, small drink, small M&Ms). Movie was great, only a few small kids screamed and had to be carried out by their mothers.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It sounds fun

I guess it did almost as good box office as the first week which is practically unheard of.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So did we. I was shocked when rottentomatoes gave it such good review so we checked in and enjoyed it. Easy to see from the kids reactions to the previews which movies are going to be huge for the family audience.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think we will be headed to the Dr Suess one when it comes out.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Danny Devito finds his perfect role

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than The Penguin?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Throw Mamma from the Train

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not his fault

but Burton’s vision of the Penguin was wack

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for reading, y'all :-) Just something to do until I find a real job ;-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Disney Glendale/Burbank had some FA openings that required a COA, if you haven’t seen them.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Perfect, I am looking for work as a Certified Overrated Accountant !!! :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

gah, whatever, there’s openings there and they were really quick to dismiss me since i don’t have a CPA in progress or completed

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Gary, if there's one thing I've learned in my search so far,

is not to go towards any big or “name” type company without a very good contact. Otherwise, its like directly putting your resume in a virtual shredder when you apply. But thanks for the tip :-) Hopefully we both end up on the other side soon :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

but when you shred things, it makes that cool bzzzzzzz sound

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I have 5 weeks left at my current job, so I’m hoping beyond hope that I find something before then so I don’t have any down time.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Still working for you here, Gary. Not sure anything is gonna come of it, but stay tuned anyway.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Will do, I’m going to check job reqs when I get home as well.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Well from everything Ive heard and seen

the currently employed are more likely to find work than the unemployed, so you’re in good shape! Make sure your bosses give you good recs and all that…cause they often pull that out of sight out of mind crap on you once you’re gone

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

My boss is an untrustworthy fuck. But she said she’d put in a good word for me with the jobs I apply to, so I can only hope she tells them about my good work rather than talk about herself for 45 minutes when asked a yes or no question.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

there's another one!

untrustworthy…my favorite kind of fuck!

Damn I hate people. I feel you, Gary.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Your favorite kind of fuck is untrustworthy? This could go so many ways?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So many lines, so little time.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew NBA players knew how to save for a rainy day. I’m guessing David Stern expects major repercussions when those first checks don’t show up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

The Escalade industry is hurting.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Possi?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Murray convicted

of manslaughter

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

his career

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Some reporter

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I am this out of touch

I had no idea what this referred to, so I googled “Murray Manslaughter”

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I still don’t know what’s happening.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to be the one to break this to you but...

Michael Jackson died

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s Human Nature

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The British dude on KABC?

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, ok. MJ’s doctor.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It was over before it started if you didn’t pay any attention.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

as in the news cycle can move on

there was not enough LILO coverage this weekend

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Kitten’s back in jail

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Already out

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

See? This is what happens when you don’t pay any attention!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Her whole life

is being late to the Morgue

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Celebrity justice. Justice for just us.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Due to overcrowding.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody goes to prison anymore, it’s too crowded!

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

if i went in for pissing on you in public i would also get out in same amount of time

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Then they’d put you on the sex offender registry.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You must have had a lousy lawyer, how would have you known Humma was down there when you started pissing?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

heh

i am also short which is why this is funny

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Only us short people can make this joke. If G Scott said it, we’d all be like fuck you gravity boy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s getting late early folks.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Nov 7, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It got barely a Stitch.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Shocked

seems ridic

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman
folks r lining up for dodgers. 2 more prospective owners r h’wood producer burt sugarman, ex-dodgers trustee tom schieffer

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

Schieffer

is an interesting name to come up

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Schieffer gets sneak peak of McCourt scam, finds flaws, perfects design.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

 Flaw – Huge debt
 Fix – find someone with deep pockets to buy team with cash
 Result – money machine

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He's being Coy

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s right, he’s just selling the info he gleamed from getting a sneak peak.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

ex-dodgers trustee tom schieffer

Tom was heard to say after seeing the Dodgers books, “a baboon could make with this team”

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Mate. He said, “a baboon could mate with this team.”

I still don’t know what he meant by that. 25 dudes and a baboon, you’re still not gonna get a baby.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

but it will be a heck of a good time trying!

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, Dee Gordon needs to learn the art of when and how to retweet, on twitter.

Of course more important that he learns some baseball related things. But still.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

I’d rather he focus just on baseball….but that’s just me

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It's never just you. ;-P

I said as much in my 2nd line. And of course I could unfollow him, too. I just get a kick out of his humor and excitement.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Steeler loss Mondays don’t make for nice HJ

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He retweeted Fruity Pebbles five times.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If we take away Dee’s sugar what do we get?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Skinnier Swag?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

A guy who’s better at Twitter.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

OK maybe *this* is the problem. He's on the CC Sabathia Diet Plan

Could kill 2 birds with 1 stone, get his tweets more rational but also make him sounder of mind and body for baseball, with less sugar.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

And when I mean diet plan, I don't mean weight-related

obvi, Dee could stand to borrow a few of CC’s pounds. But sugar calorie weight ain’t healthy.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Marlins have a hard-on for Reyes, apparently.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

Clash with their caps

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine you saying that in the voice of Stewie from Family Guy

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LA Justice:

You are a celebrity: not guilty

You are not a celebrity: guilty

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

Until OJ

we thought they only hurt themselves

but not so much anymore

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I get the feeling you don’t like the people you are paid to promote

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends on the person. Some of them I like. Others, I don’t.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I get the feeling you don’t like the bloggers you spend time reading

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Son, if we’re gonna start listing the people I don’t like, we can start with me and go from there.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just glad this man is off the streets where he can’t administer lethal doses of drugs.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

that his clients demand he give them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The over the counter drug world is an interesting world.

I’m about to read a book about Quantum Physics that is going to explain to me why I did not get the jetpack promised to me but I did get the Smartphone no one saw coming except Dick Tracy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

The new Brian Green book? I hear it’s great.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He landed Megan Fox with it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean Brian Greene

but no

And I meant Quantum Mechanics and I only bought the book because of the cover:) Also it promised no math and would finally answer why I did not have my jetpack.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I can tell you why you don’t have your jetpack.

Look at the exhaust that comes out of a jet engine. If that was on your back, your entire body would be burned to a crisp.

You could find another way to get lift - huge fans? - but they probably would not provide enough lift or control to get you off the ground, and even if they did, steering would be a bitch.

Thus: no jetpack.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

so what you’re saying is, the simple cartoons of the jet age, didn’t translate into practical use?

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of drugs

Saw Harold and Kumar loaded on Saturday night

first movie I have seen in 3D

I enjoy them, though this was not as good as the other two

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Fall Dish - Tuscan Bean Soup the easy way

1/3 pound of chopped Pancetta
1 chopped med sized onion
Cup of chopped carrots and Celery
2 cloves garlic
2 cans of white beans
1 can of garbanzo
1 can chopped tomatoes
2 qts of chix stock
1 bunch of black kale
Herbs – thyme, rosemary, oregano, bay (or what you have)

Heat olive oil, render pancetta (or bacon) until crisp
Toss in onions, carrots, celery, and garlic. Cook over Med-High for about 4 mins (see some softening and color. Salt and Pepper to taste (careful pancetta is salty)
Add stock, tomatoes, beans (rinsed and drained) and herbs (if fresh tie into a bundle which can be pulled out later)
Bring to simmer – simmer for about 20 minutes
taste: does it need salt or pepper (if you like heat you can add a few red pepper flakes here too)
Add Kale and simmer for another 20 or 30 minutes. Beans should be soft, Kale cooked through with a bit of bite. Your veggies will have some bite left too

Serve with grated parm cheese on top.

If you have a crust loaf of bread, would do the job here as a mopping instrument

eat it on cold nights until baseball returns

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:10 PM PST reply actions  

All the nights are cold until baseball returns.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly with the new and improved SB Nation search tool this will no longer be searchable come that cold Feb Night when someone gets a hankering for Tuscan Bean Soup since only things written within the last three months has been deemed worthy enough.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Gonna start

roasting turkeys this week leading up to Xmas night dinner

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I need a bigger freezer for all the stock I’d like to make

I love roasted birds

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'ce got a ridiculously small feeezer

so carcassesesesessess go into the garbage

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

me too, more often than I like to admit

I weep for them later when I am buying Kitchen Basics stock for 5 bucks a quart or whatever those fuckers charge

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I

Bet a nice Italian Red would go nicely with this soup

by bhsportsguy on Nov 7, 2011 2:14 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

sure – something medium body with a little spice

if it grows with it, it goes with it – so I would look tuscany.

Nothing too dear when it comes to price – Rosso di Moltocino

a good, but value priced Chianti

a “tuesday night” wine

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian Kenny's new MLB Network show starts today

Eric is right, he is an excellent mainstream baseball guy.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Apparently Rob Neyer will be involved too, it least as a guest occasionally. Looking forward to it.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He’ll talk about the CF of the ’10s, Andres Torres.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha, also my first thought

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Me to, can’t wait for him to tell us again why Matt Kemp was not even mentioned for CF of the decade

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Because he was coming off a year where he was worse than Juan Encarncaion?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Still does not fly. You can’t judge a book by the last page you read.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless it’s a book on the 2010 Giants

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but I do remember he said that the picks he made that look really awful in retrospect were the guys with just one good year (Ben Greive)

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

you can

with really shitty books. Because it’s usually page 58

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The Chad Billingsley of books

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure this is not news but I didn't know this tidbit about the upcoming sale
McCourt’s agreement to sell gives him — not Selig — the final call on the new Dodgers’ owner. If Schieffer were to bid, it would be difficult to imagine that McCourt would pick him unless the bid were substantially higher than any other.

Tom Schieffer: I’m not pursuing Dodgers

by bhsportsguy on Nov 7, 2011 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

hahaha, hello Mark Cuban! Frank’s final F YOU to Bud Selig. I imagine he’d still have to be approved by the owners.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

and thus the final pieces fall into place for the first Beijing owned MLB franchise

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ll have the best Panda Expresses in sports.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

and we’ll never get Cameron Maybin

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The grounds crew dance routines will be spectacular.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

and the announcers will learn how to properly pronounce all Chinese players names. :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

And the winner is me, Frank McCourt.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Just want to say I called this last week.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

she is also gonna wreck it i hope

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

dude – this killed me

I mean, wtf – so bizarrely funny

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do you hope such a thing?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

do not fuck with the narrative

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

how do you expect me to defend this hater of the year title if i dont keep hatin?

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

In reading up on her she does appear suspect. Looks like it would make an interesting serial. Those Snyders did not have long life genes but Mamma Esther sure did.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

…..and, soon, the Dodgers?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Because her fat uncles

Couldn’t stop eating them, and then picked a plane that couldn’t hold them

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, this sounds like something I should google.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

In N Out violated the one pseudo rule of high stakes corporate ownership: never have all the leadership together in the same plane.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I remember talking about this on this site a few weeks ago when someone was flying with some someone else.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Wiki mentions only one In-N-Out exec being on the plane in 1993. Unless I’m reading it wrong. Which happens.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

We are talking about something that happened 18 years ago? How about that Bill Clinton?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but that ruined the joke. The other was a fat fuck too however. My brother used to have to deal with them on occasion.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

does fuck only work to describe a person when preceded by fat or skinny? Can you just call someone a fuck?

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

works also with dumb

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

it does usually have a qualifying adjective.

Little works.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

so does "good"

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Bum works

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

No the way I use it

But decorum prevents me from expanding on that.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Mindless, stupid, insensitve, creepy, selfish…goes on and on

my favorite when I am mad enough to make myself laugh

“You fucking fuckety fuck”

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

From here:

The president of the 45-year-old, 93-inut chain was 41.

Killed with Snyder were his boyhood friend, Philip R. West, 37, who was In-N-Out’s executive vice president and chief operating officer; Jack Sims, another friend of Synder’s and a consultant to the company; and two pilots, Stephen R. Barkin and John Odis McDaniel.

Synder and West apparently had broken a longstanding personal policy against flying on the same plane when they embarked on the flight to scout Southern California restaurant sites and open a unit in Fresno, Calif.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

But we were talking about people with an ownership interest in the company, which is how it ended up solely in the hands of the lovely young miss above.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

There was a shitload in between that crash and the young lass

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m saying!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We are on the same page.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i heard there is not much lovely about her

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I question a boyhood friend who was four years younger. How 12 year old are hanging with 8 year olds?
11 – 7
10 – 6
9 – 5
8- 4
7 – 3
6 – 2
5 – 1
4 – uterus

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

depends if you grew up isolated or if you were a bugger by nature I suppose

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Younger brother of kid in his class?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Without knowing their actual birthdays, we could give him the benefit of the doubt and say they were three years (and a month) apart. There would have to be brothers involved on one or both sides, which seemed to be the case here.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

all of my brothers friends who I could also claim to be my friends are dead but the point be true. I’d forgotten about siblings and such.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The King Ralph of fast food execs.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what lift-to-drag ratio’s all about.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

More Lindsey Lohan jokes? Come on you’re better than that.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I’m really not.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

But who own's Five Guys

I need to get a hold of them and tell them to put near my apartment… I will single handedly make it a success.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

And his four sons…there are the FIve Guys.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

My comment still stands

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

JERRY-JERRY!

Five Guys in the SFV! Go! Now!

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

There is one in Northridge now.
One word: overrated.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Northridge too

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone knows that I meant Five Guys there because Northridge is really just unrated.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

But since that is north of the boulevard, I know that doesn’t count for you. ;-)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

two words:

overrated, expensive

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew

one of the guys was Tommy Lee Jones?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, I will look like that in about five years. I would not trust that man

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

5 years?

you gotta quit teeing these up

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s easy for him, being so close to the tee and all.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

sinister smile, sitting on 200lbs of potatoes?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

“Brain, why do you have such a sinister smile, and why are you sitting on 200 pounds of potatoes? What are we doing tonight?”

“Same thing we do every night, Pinky: try and take over the world!”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

dude, look at the size of those paws!

either that is a Humma burger or that dude should be in the NBA

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Humma Burger

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll make a fortune in the licensing rights alone

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like umami burger

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Only smaller and tastier

Now with less syllables

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Spy that grotesque knuckle on the middle finger of his right hand

nauseating

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like it was broken a couple times on some other dude’s jaw.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

wait so is five guys overrated in general, or you saying just the Northridge one?

by uschris0304 on Nov 7, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve only been to the Northridge one, but based on that one visit I am extrapolating to “Five Guys overall is overrated.”

They seem to want to occupy a space between In N Out and The Counter. I say if you want a fast-food burger, just pay less and hit In N Out (ask for grilled onions, pickle and “chiles” [chopped peperoncinis, I think] ); if you want to pay for interesting add ons, go full service and hit up The Counter – and have a beer with it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If i had only been to the Sherman Oaks Fudruckers I’d never have visited another one but since the one in Culver City was great and the one in Burbank is great, I’d humbly suggest trying another one before final judgment.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Extrapolating to a conclusion from a sample of one is so much more fun though.

It’s a big enough operation that I’m willing to believe they’ve minimized the differences from location to location. Point taken though.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no Fuddruckers in Culver City.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

There was in 1987:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Sepulveda / Pico I believe across from a Sporting Good store

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that West LA, not Culver City?

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

True

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

A) That is West L.A., not CC
B) That was Flakey Jake’s

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

GOD Damn

you are right, but did not remember until you said Flaky Jakes

Same concept:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved that place. They had free cheese for dipping fries in.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So THAT’S the guy we can blame for Macaroni Grill?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny story

I knew a guy who played ball at St. John Boscoe, Stanford and later in the Rockies system named Edmund Muth. His family owned a restaurant off the 405 at Alicia Pkwy called Macaroni Grill. When the chain Macaroni Grill moved in, they demanded my friend’s parent’s change their restaurant’s name. Suffice to say it went to court and the chain won out, but not without some decent compensation. The restaurant changed its name and closed a few short years later. All their regulars stopped coming because they thought the place had changed ownership.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Edmund punched his parents in the Muth for naming him Edmund.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess you’re right, not so funny.

Mostly, not only is Macaroni Grill not very good, it’s, well, it’s not very good.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Romano’s or Muth’s? RMG is not too bad. It’s better than Olive Garden at least.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

“When you’re here, it’s dysentery.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

RMG. It’s essentially the same as Olive Garden, yeah.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Olive Garden at least won’t completely botch reheating angel hair pasta.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my take on it too.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Flakey Jakes

really liked their pizza. Its sad that I still drive by the broken down husk of one on my way to d-land/angel stadium

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Flakey Jake’s what used to be at Corbin and Nordhoff, where Olive Garden or Mimi’s Cafe is now? Or was that Fuddruckers?

I’ve been to the Burbank Fuddruckers fairly recently and found it so-so. Maybe I was having a bad day.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, Flakey Jake’s used to be there. Loved that place as a kid.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Nov 7, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch. I remember seeing those places get built. As an adult.

A short-lived Mexican place called “Garcias” was another restaurant in that space.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The Fuddrucker’s at the Sherman Oaks Galleria is still there, I believe. It’s pretty decent but doesn’t stack up to the Flakey Jake’s in my memory.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm 100 yards from this one

It sucks.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You should have a number

of decent or better lunch choices within easy reach there. Or am I wrong about that?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Mostly Wrong

There’s a cafe 50’s that is surprisingly tasteless. Thee is Corky’s which is a good diner and that’s about it.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I was told there were lots of great places to eat on the boulevard! Who lied to me??


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Never trust the Venturans

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i've been to a few

one here in the west and a couple in the east. They aren’t better then in and out, but they sure as hell are more expensive

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Comparing them to Fatburger is way more fair.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

fold complain about In-N-Out’s combos, Five guys ain’t even heard of the concept

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

In N Out combos is just doing the math for you. There is no discount in that price.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

which i maintain is misleading

maybe purposely so. Not that its a really big deal or nothing.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

it is a tax on the dumb and lazy

capitalism is FILLED with them

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see it as a tax

its not like they are charging you more, and if you don’t want fries or a drink there is no point to get the combo.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Like the megapacks of toilet paper. The 8-packs are almost always cheaper per roll than the 16-packs.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

More Terry Ryan

just tweeted by the Twins:

Terry Ryan – "There’s a need right now … I am going to take this job head-on. Being a GM is a 365 day-a-year job.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

Wonder if Smith knew he was on the way out before the other day and if he would have tried for the Orioles job.

Also, How did Dan “Twilight of His Career” Duquette get another job?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Because if baseball can’t recycle it’s executives they might have to give jobs to intelligent folk who might make a difference.

This is this will not be Ned’s last GM job.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He will go full circle and replace Sabean one day

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Saying it was his dream job

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Way to potentially depress 29 other teams ;-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I just need that first scouting job and you’ll hear about G.Scott, MLB Executive before the end of your lifetime.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

better hurry

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha, wish I knew how to start.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you said you used to be involved with a MLB scouting department?

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I was scouted by the Mariners and Yankees and have a working knowledge of how a MLB scouting department operates. I would love to work as a scout but currently my only two remaining scouting contacts have either been fired or i can’t get in touch with them.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear scouting sucks, unless you like shitting at McDonalds.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

being an associate scout is just above scum, and right below vp of communications.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The great part about that story is the follow-up email to say that he took a shit at McDonalds.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting, you must have spent a lot of time with them. I got scouted in HS too, but didn’t really chat with them enough to have working knowledge of a MLB department.

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Took pitching lessons from age 9-14 from the guy responsible for scouting Orange County for the Yankees. He’s where most of my knowledge comes from.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice, that sounds like a good guy to take lessons from

by BFDC on Nov 7, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

dude was a catcher in college and the pros, but knew his stuff with pitching. Gave me the basics of the mechanics, but more importantly taught me the intricacies of the game and how it was supposed to be played. A real SOB, but a great role model. Kind of looked like Roger Clemens, Garth Brooks and Chuck Knoblauch all at once lol

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Name?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Would really rather not say.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t necessarily like the guy at the time, but GD am I glad I had him as a role model at that age.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Which says something that no Orioles GM since Frank Wren has ever worked again and it caused Mike Flaganan to kill himself

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He thought he had the day off

Hadn’t gotten the 365-day memo

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

My guess is also it's due to him being one of the few "viable" candidates who can work with

(read: stand) Angelos.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 7, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Wat
SI_JonHeyman
Braves seek greinke like deal for jurrjens. Can’t blame ’em. Teams that could play include col nyy tex kc bos tor balt cubs

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

Never hurts to ask I guess

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

#3 starter who outperformed his FIP, xFIP, tERA, and SIERA by numbers ranging from 1-1.5 runs/9

With a declining K rate and velocity…..

It doesn’t hurt to ask, as long as the answer isn’t anything worth much.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant it doesn’t hurt for Atlanta to ask for Grienke/Jair swap (but it has no shot of happening.)

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

figure they more meant they want for Jurjjins something similar to what KC got for Greinke, not that they wanted to trade Jurjjins for Greinke.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t recall the haul for Grienke being that impressive.
Starting SS but not a world beater, basically Dee Gordon
Minor League CF who will probably be a Tony Gwynn Type
Bullpen guy
Good pitching prospect still in A ball at the time of the deal

That would be like trading
Dee Gordon
Tony Gwynn Junior
Lindblom
Gould

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I also remember it not being all that great.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

And we have to take Jack Wilson

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

difference is, the Brewers got a guy underperforming his peripherals and bought low, Braves are trying to sell high on a guy outperforming his peripherals.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope the Rockies give them a Greinke like deal

by eitherethier on Nov 7, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

CHConfidential
#RogueCommish would add a wild card team & make the World Series 1 game at a neutral site. How would you change the postseason?

That is some crazy shit right there.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

You could then even up home/away games

Makes a bit of sense. Maybe have the neutral team give 1/3rd of proceeds to each of the two teams?

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

they are talking about making the World Series into the Super Bowl. Just one game at a neutral site.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I read that as 1 game world series, not 7 game with Game 1 at a neutral site

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

7 games and a neutral site

could be really cool, or really horrible

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean 1 game at a neutral site, or all 7?

1 game actually makes sense, i’d like that, actually.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Nov 7, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

but then the All-Star game would be meaningless.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

mind as well just let a computer pick the two teams to play in the World Series like they do in other sports.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I would replace the World Series with a flipping coin.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck playoffs

Just have pennant winners and the champion is the league that wins the All Star game.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

shit, this aint no European Soccer.

by uschris0304 on Nov 7, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I would change it so that each team played each other team 100,000 times to determine which two teams were the best.

Then I would have those teams meet up and flip coins, calling it in the air. Whoever gets more calls right in 100,000 flips is the World Series champion!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It's Still Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime for Dodger Baseball

We’re about to start game 65,108 of the season opening 100,000-game series against the Pittsburgh Pirates. There are just over 1,400,000 games left to be played this year at Dodger Stadium, so get your tickets now.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

“Matt Kemp has just correctly called twenty-five heads in a row! In a year that has been so impossible, the improbable has happened!”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Kemp would have a great xHACFIP

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I like it. Let’s just simulate the season and save everyone the wear and tear.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I like you, Xei: you are a humanist, always thinking about the well-being of the players.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that Williamsport?

Or as they say in PA, Sandusky-land?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yow.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Neutral site

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t read this as being an actual proposal by Bud Selig, but then again I have no idea what CHConfidential is.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

its not

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume it is silverwidow, needing another outlet to ask foolish questions.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I untucked my shirt in his honor

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I must admit, this has been the funniest day here in a while.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Only because I’ve been busy with work.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't know what CH is?

YOU posted the pic of Switzerland! CH on Euro car decals…

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Confœderatio Helvetica Confidential would be a boring follow.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I could however get behind
2 games at NL park
2 games at AL park
1 game a NL park
1 game at AL park
Game 7

Always at the Ravine

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

is that the only way LA sees a W.S. game?

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Games 1 and 2 at Busch, Games 3 and 4 at Yankee Stadium, Game 5 at PNC Park, Game 6 at Angels Stadium, Game 7 at Dodger Stadium.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Jose Valentin gonna be hired as a Padres minor league manager, per Dan Hayes of the North County Times (in San Diego)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Didn’t he own and manage a winter league team?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Was he a batting coach in the Dodger system this past year?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

explains trayvon robinson

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

At least I didn’t confuse him with Bobby Valentine. Or Karen.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

From Dallas reporter Evan Grant
Rangers have dealt with the matter of leaked Game 7 speech internally. No other details released by club.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

I hope BucknellBruin’s fate was less severe.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Club will neither confirm or deny if club employ has been terminated.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael Young was asked to move to LF as a result.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

what speech?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Ron MF Washington’s MF speech before MF game 7 of the MF world MF series

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

and

No snakes were involved

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter loved it

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 7, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I looked up someone from grade school

on this jail tracking site, and to no surprise, the douche was recently arrested in Vegas.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

It was a peer, not a teacher or anything. Just a general asshole to everyone back then. Knew he’d wind up there at some point.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

this is why the internet is great and sucks all in a sentence

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 7, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

true

the guy could have grown up since grade school, and there could be real tragedy in his arrest.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He would have matured if it wasn’t for that darned internet.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t know how this is tragic; I saw the details — he was obstructing a cop.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that like getting arrested for resisting arrest?

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Note to criminal:

YOU’RE DOIN IT WRONG

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought obstruction was just a two-minute penalty.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Runner gets the bag.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

he grew up

became a great guy, got married had kids. Loses his job through no fault of his own. Loses house, becomes addicted to crack, goes on a crack binge in vegas resulting in obstructing a cop. You get the idea.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a guy I played with in Little League who was easily the best player I’d ever played with or against relative to the level (and I’ve played with at least three major leaguers). He was in Juvie before he had a chance to even play high school ball. I’m sure he’s got a rap sheet too.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 7, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Comfort Inn

has some real craptacular breakfast if you ask me. Last time I stayed, the “hot food” consisted of stale eggs and greasy-as-shit sausage patties.

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

I dunno- I like I-n-out

but Five Guys have a much thicker patty and better fries – i agree it should be compared with fatburger, the counter, etc. not i-n-out. if all you are looking at is price, sure. but if you’re looking for a good quality fast food burger, i prefer 5 guys. Maybe I’ll drop by the Northridge one (news to me!!!) when I hit up David’s Bridal for a veil. Burgers and wedding shopping- a marriage made in heaven

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

I think the more options for crazy crap you can put on a burger there are, the worse the burger is.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

if burgers were meant to be loaded with crap (mustard, ketchup, pickles, lettuce, peppers etc…) cows would come with em.

by Xeifrank on Nov 7, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey lets not bring mustard down here.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

who puts ketchup on their hamburger???

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

children.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 7, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

6 year olds, before they know better.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

ketchup goes with everything

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

isn't 1000 island mayo and chili sauce?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

that might be inout's recipe, but it's not mine :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No 1000 on my burgers. Screw that.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

A little bit of ketchup on a hamburger is a good thing. That and some mustard, applied to the bun, for flavor and to help things stick together.

Ketchup on a hot dog is an out and out abomination, however.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I almost threw up last time someone handed me a ketchup dog

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

holly shit, that is twice today with different members.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what I’m getting you at the next TBLA game/picnic/barbecue

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I said I was sorry! I was too busy chanting Jer-ry Jer-ry to notice what I had done.

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

blood on the hot dog is a bad memory for josie

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yow.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

uh TMI?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but GD when has that stopped the rest of you

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I was sorely tempted by “untrustworthy fucks”, but resisted.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but you see, I didn't take it any farther, and neither did you.

Winning.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I was really just waiting for TBLA after dark, which starts a hour sooner these days, does it not?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I passed up a chance at a "thick"

joke.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking along the lines of “but you promised to pull out!”


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

(It’s dark now, right?)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

I wanna go home :-/

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

nah you and I see eye to eye on hotdogs, it was my dad – he said I used to love ketchup dogs and surely I had just been brainwashed by the Berkeley illuminati.

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He also remembers when you dreamed of striking out on your own

/notsensitiveenoughtaboutcollegegradsstilllivingathomebutsomedayIwillbe

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank God my father was part German in heritage and taught me from a young age that hot dog condiments start with mustard and sauerkraut.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Win (though I still occasionally put mustard and ketchup, and sauerkraut when available on my hot dogs)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You ain't German until you've been made to wear these to school

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There actually was one unfortunate German kid in my (2nd-4th grade) elementary school who wore classic schoolboy short pants to school everyday. Remember, this was long before Angus Young was running around stages worldwide.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

did he make it

to 5th grade? He might not have at my school.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He graduated (6th grade). I moved to a different school after 4th grade. Apparently no grammar school could put up with me for more than three years.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Being in Germany my Mom made me wear them one day. I made a point to get in a fight and get them all dirty along with my face.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope she took pictures before she sent you off to school. Could be priceless.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

We lost most of our childhood photo’s in a flood. Why would you store photos in a basement? Along with your most revered books? Probably because you’d expect the person watching the home while you are on vacation with the rest of the family to figure out what was important and carry them out of harms way instead of doing absolutely nothing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch

I never had a basement, but it seems odd.

Once someone was watching my house and let a pump motor burn out because they let the water level in the spa get lower than the intake because they couldn’t figure out how to add water. There was a hose not 30 feet away!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Try the ketchup flavored potato chips

by Grimjack on Nov 7, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds gross. I’ll stick to salt and vinegar, thank you very much.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only eat those inside of a ham and cheese baguette sandwich

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems ...

… odd. I love ’em straight out of the bag.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

they’re too rough on the old gums and tongue straight out the bag

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yow!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i heard they have those in the UK

which is known for having the worst food in the western world.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The empire was always in search of better food much more then slaves and conquest.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

the English who became Americans were smart and let the foreigners come to them

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Those who didn’t freeze to death, die of starvation, or succumb to disease.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Canada

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I would copy and paste my food porn on how a hamburger is supposed to be a complex complement and contrast of different flavors and textures, but I think it is older than SBNation will let me search.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is why any place that lets you choose from twenty different things is hiding something. “You didn’t like your burger, well that’s just on you isn’t it?”

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

or hell

if you eat too many burgers and then…

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

I agree- the beauty of I-N-Out is in its simplicity. But sometimes, if I’m in the mood to put a bunch of crazy crap on my burger, there are lots of places out there for that too. Also, the Stand has be in the conversation as a decent not too expensive burger (or dog). And the stand is a lot more convenient than Northridge.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

But Five Guys toppings aren’t that crazy. BBQ sauce (extra charge)? Sauteed mushrooms? If I want crazy toppings, I’ll head to The Counter.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but it’s still enough that they’re clearly hiding something.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

at the counter

my kids sliders that are just meat and cheese taste pretty good. don’t see what they are hiding.

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re okay, it’s just charging 13 bucks for something that Fatburger does better.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

i never had fatburger before except at the rose bowl

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

i also want green chiles in my burger

who else is going to hook that up for me in LA?

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Delias

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

then that would be me

because i am the burger master and i do put them in the meat

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Verdell has offered to cook a hamburger for me, I never let it go further than that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I've grown addicted

to jalapenos in my burgers.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

any restaurant that will let you get a burger medium rare has nothing to hide

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems correct. I don’t like any pink in my burger, so I have to order it well-done at The Counter. And it is still juicy.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe the sauteed mushrooms and BBQ are at no extra charge, a plus in my book

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right

all the toppings are included. I was confusing the “everything” list (which is not, in fact, everything) with pricing. The toppings that are beyond the ordinary are: BBQ sauce, grilled mushrooms, jalapenos, green peppers (I assume bell), A1 steak sauce, hot sauce.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you think if I created a phony award given out by a phony organization, I could then get Clayton Kershaw to come to my phony event to accept his phony award and give me an autograph?

by G.Scott on Nov 7, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

if it’s in Africa maybe

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

“All right Clayton to get the G. Scott award of outstanding performance in the field of excellence just sign here”

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

“Hey Clayton, what do you think of G Scott’s award?”

“It’s awesome.”

/everyotherkershawinterviewthathasevertakenplace

by silverwidow on Nov 7, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Get Willie Nelson to host. You just don’t say no to the redheaded stranger!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Burger talk must be one of the top 5 topics that gets rethreaded. Even among Dodger talk I think it is a top five, while Hot Dog talk gets relegated to once or twice a year. I’d do the numbers but SB Nation had decided that searching for past information is not something their members should be allowed to do.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

heh

simultaneous digs on SB Nation search.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This might be a hint I have nothing to add to these conversations or that we need some new blood at TBLA to shake us up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Or that it has been awhile since there was a meercat appearance.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s gonna be a long winter, and not the wilder type

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We could have been having Bill Smith chat if someone besides yourself chimed in.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

He sucked. What else is there to say?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

He really really sucked, and I don’t think enough people noticed.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It was way out in the northern reaches of the AL Central. If you’re going to suck, do it someplace remote.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard Minnesota plays in a dome, what’s up with that?

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

On bunt plays, the corner IFs sweep the foul line with brooms in attempts to get the ball to roll foul.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Kosher hot dogs at the Stand are AMAZING.

this is something i have always had beef (heh) with Dodger Stadium about. Why no Kosher hot dogs???? (all beef isn’t the same). StL has kosher hot dogs for christ sake. pun intended.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

When it really comes down to it, I will admit my attachment to Dodger Dogs has much, much more to do with nostalgia than taste.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Those aren’t free in the press box though

by Eric Stephen on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

you see, they ARE superior

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Here you go ink-stained wretches, free steamed mixed-meat dogs.

I eat one (or two) anyway.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I do to and I hate myself for doing it. So much so I have to drown my hatred in cookies, ice cream, and popcorn.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

you gotta get the catered meal, unless it’s pseudo-japanese night

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The pseudo-Mexican was a pass also, but at least there was fried chicken that night too.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

last night’s Galaxy game was ribs and mac-n-cheese night. Which is the best night

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That does sound good. I hope you splattered Bleacher Report guy with excess BBQ sauce.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He

brings a stuffed doll to all the games and puts it by his computer, when in the adjacent press room, he gives color commentary on the TV, but it’s like inane stuff that a six year old would say, it just drives everyone insane

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I always end up eating too much soft-serve and cookies. The popcorn I pass on.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

you know, we could easily have seen the last of the blogger spot. The biggest person in our corner is gone.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It is possible. I am hoping that no one want to rock the boat.

If Mark Cuban buys, doesn’t he like us better than the paid press?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

McCourt is lower than an all-beef hot dog?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

In the store-bought, Farmer John category, I actually prefer the meat weiners to the beef ones.

I am close to grossing out delias man here.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Because

PORK FTMFW !


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i am ignoring this.

by delias man on Nov 7, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

Los Angeles had the 3rd highest Jewish American population – behind NY and Miami… why no Kosher hot dogs. We might need a new Jewish owner.. make it happen!

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Outside the Ravine, the only dogs I eat are Hebrew National

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

i like Best hot dogs the best. HN are OK

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never strayed from HB, so what does Best Kosher have going for it, and are they readily available?

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

they're available, or at least they used to be

they are, how can i say this without people interpreting this wrong and using it against me, thicker and jucier

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just going to point out

this is the second time you have stated a preference for thicker

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

omigod- i just found out on the interwebs they have been discontinued-feck!!!

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by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No!

http://www.bests-kosher.com/

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

well, i suggest you hit up the stand and get their kosher dog.

its a dollar more than a regular hot dog but its really really really good.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is that?


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

there's one in encino, one is westwood... those of the two i know of

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by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

they're used to be one is woodland hills but i think it got made into something else

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Called “Best’s”?


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No worries

Because there is nothing wrong with you preferring thicker and juicier.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

my dad’s working at the new Fresh and Easy express on 18th and La Cienega. Huge Jewish population, and they’re complaining there aren’t enough kosher products

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Off topic - Dodger question:

Wouldn’t the value of the upcoming Dodger television contract be substantially increased with a signing of Prince Fielder? I’m assuming that signing would enable the Dodgers to be true contenders next year.

Without that, attendance at games may well go up a lot next season, but, without a winning team on the field, wouldn’t ratings stagnate? Thereby diminishing the Dodgers leverage in TV contract negotiations?

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

Was gonna write something out, but that covers it.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So, ratings wouldn’t be stagnant? Even if them goes 75-87?

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Basing how successful a team will be over the next decade because of the addition of one player would be very bad business.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

TV contracts are long term deals, they are signed based on long term trends and projections that if I tried to half explain with my limited knowledge, Phil and Gary and anyone else with actual business sense would brow beat me. The important thing is, one signing will not affect those negotiations in one direction or the other. And realistically, it won’t effect the ratings much either.

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

My brows are a bit unwieldy but they have not gotten me arrested yet.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Your brows can get away with murder because no one looks past your eyes for quite a while.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

i used to wear sun glasses alot to see if someone would like me for who I am. Turns out nobody did.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought this blog was an exercise in that.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

Havent’ we lost a substantial number of viewers? Wouldn’t a team with Prince/Kemp/Kershaw plowing through the NL while the Lakers get another year old while not playing any games mean a huge bump in the rating to the point that they are out viewing the Clippers?

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree – it’s like people are saying there’s no “star attraction” to TV ratings at all. The Dodgers would be the top attraction in the market. It certainly worked for the Giants in the Bonds era.

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Barry Bonds drew because he was chasing a record. The Dodgers ratings and attendance started to drop when they started losing, not when they lost Manny

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

OK – without a big signing…how do you get a winning team and higher ratings???

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re not going to get there with several 2-3 million dollar free agents….

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re talking about expected wins over a decade, on that scale Fielder is a drop in the bucket.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers have struggled on the field this year, mired in last place in their division, and that surely has affected viewer interest. But just how far have they fallen? The team is in danger of being watched by fewer Los Angeles-area homes than Los Angeles’ second most popular NBA team. The Dodgers’ 67,000-home average is just above the 56,000 homes the Clippers averaged last season. By comparison, an average of 271,000 Los Angeles-area homes tuned in for Lakers games last season.

The Dodgers dropped 27% in their rating from last year to this year, but I don’t know how to do the math to show what number is 27% more than 1.17 million. I’m imagining it’s still far short of 1.5 million, which still puts the Dodgers in the bottom five.

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I must be extremely dense, but you seem to be justifying my argument. The missing 27% won’t come back without a reason – simply having new ownership won’t do it. Winning team will.

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Winning will

Signing Prince does not guarantee winning.

Winning solves everything.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s my only point. Fox isn’t going to see Prince sign and go “holy shit, guaranteed wins! Here’s more money!”

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

My only point is that we should expect a bump back up in ratings as the team gets back into the swing of things and stops being a national joke. As you say how much is that worth I don’t know, but again, the dollars being bandied about for our pathetic numbers means something.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

well

my other point is that 1.17million versus 1.5 million households isn’t going to mean much come contract time. The Cards draw in 9.06 million households, for comparison

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Baring injury, isn’t Fielder pretty much a lock for 6-8 WAR right there?

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He was at 5.5 last year, roughly 3 better than Loney. Year before that he was at 3.4.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Fielder certainly helps this team, but if we do nothing but replace Loney with him it’s no where near a lock at the playoffs or even .500 this year, let alone six years from now.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I suspect Angel fans thought the very same thing about Moe Vaughn.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Crawford sure thinks so

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

simply having new ownership won’t do it.

I’m not sure thats true

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the end of the McCourt era and the attraction of the reigning NL MVP and Cy Young award winners will help ratings.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

people who won’t pay to see Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw aren’t going to suddenly be won over by Prince Fielder

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If All these comments are true, than the smartest thing for McCourt to do would be to make zero major free agent signings. How depressing. This team is not far from being a serious contender….

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless you have massive revenues like the Yankees the safest investment is to be the Marlins.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

the Angels were smart and prudently invested, and then they weren’t

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I see you point. Maybe trading Kemp and Eithier for prospects would be the fastest route to success.

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That wasn’t the point. Point is that you can make tons of money in the MLB by cutting your expenses down to zero, who cares if you win. If you do and more people show up, bonus.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

But, the Marlins did win a World Series several years after cleaning house, trading all their stars for prospects!

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

bonus


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a nice bonus. You keep turning your stars into prospects you’re gonna run out of stars eventually.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Except when the prospects mature to become stars, and get moved for new prospects….

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure when it works it works great. Just remember that most prospects are terrible and won’t amount to anything.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

How’s turning stars into prospects working for the A’s?

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, four times today.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Their problem lately has been their “star” players now aren’t as good as their “stars” were 10 years ago. Which supports your point.

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it can be done but some of the best have tried. Beane sure tried, haven’t seen many new stars their lately.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So, where does this team go? Looks like a somewhat hopeless situation to me.

Ironically – if I was a team owner, my first rule would be:
Thous shall not sign a free agent to a contract for more than 3 years.

That certainly flies in the face of my advocating signing Fielder!!!

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

this is how you end up with juan uribe

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

welp, either they win more games next year, or they lose more. If they win more, likely it’ll be a good time to buy a player. If they lose more, someone’s like to get sold

by Josie Becker on Nov 7, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Thous shall not sign a free agent to a contract for more than 3 years.

You are Ned Colletti. (Except for Juan Pierre, of all people.)


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

since you said

if I was a team owner
maybe you are Frank McCourt.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

No comment – I refer you to me attorneys.

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Without knowing what our finances really look like it’s really hard to say. If there really is no money there trading Kemp and trying to rebuild makes a ton of sense.

If the money is there, bringing in a couple free agents and go for it.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Ned Colletti answer is to sign Heath Bell.

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by regfairfield on Nov 7, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

We already know he’s going to sign a relief pitcher the only question is who, how much, how long.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Guillermo Mota, $6M, 2 years.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we have to try one more time but be ready to sell the boat come July 31st with Kemp/Andre/Loney all headed out the door.

Not having Rubby just makes it harder to try one more time while having the payroll to make it happen.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah – our excitement next summer might center around speculation of what prospects we’ll get for them….

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck that

I will be too pissed at the shitty W-L record to be excited about other teams prospects.


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by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So, maybe this year’s strategy would be to trade whatever good prospects we have (Webster, Tolleson, Ames, Lee) for a solid 2nd baseman and 4th starter, and let the future bring what it may?

by latenite on Nov 7, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

go cheap

Jason Kubel, Trever Miller, Kerry Wood, and Kevin Millwood.

Not exactly sure how much it would take to sign these guys but it shouldn’t be all that much.

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 7, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

They could be really far away if Kemp goes even on us, Gordon flails, Uribe plumps, Andre goes Hawpe, and Sands is more of flooded castle on the beach at high tide.

Or they could be really close if Kemp goes on a MVP binge, Gordon becomes flash, Uribe rebounds, Andre earns his 3rd all-star game appearance, and Sands crushes his critics with a resounding bat.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 7, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

uribe...plumps when you cook him?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Nov 7, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he come with his own pop-up thermometer to show when he’s done?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 7, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Plumps

like the swimming dude in The Walking Dead.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 7, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd give anything for a decent hotdog

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 7, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny

that Matt Kemp’s interviews after the Silver Slugger and Outstanding player of the year interviews om MLB were the same (done during the WS), with slight editing the difference.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 7, 2011 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

fatburger is okay

until I can’t breathe from the grease invading my throat

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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