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AL Cy Young Award: Justin Verlander Captures SB Nation Honor

It is SB Nation MLB awards week, and today we finally get to the Cy Young award...from the American League, that is. We have to wait until Wednesday to see how Clayton Kershaw fared, but in the meantime Justin Verlander of the Detroit Tigers won the AL Cy Young rather easily, capturing 22 of 24 first place votes:

Rank Name 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total
1 Justin Verlander 22 2 162
2 CC Sabathia 2 17 4 1 96
3 Jered Weaver 5 10 4 58
4 James Shields 3 8 6 31
5 C.J. Wilson 4 4 5 25
6 Dan Haren 3 5 4 23
7 Josh Beckett 3 3
7 David Price 1 2
7 Jon Lester 1 2
10 Brandon McCarthy 2 2
11 Mariano Rivera 1 1
11 Doug Fister 1 1
11 Felix Hernandez 1 1
11 Gio Gonzalez 1 1

Points were awarded as follows: seven points for a first place vote, four points per second place vote, three points per third place vote, two points per fourth place vote, and one point for every fifth place vote.

The Baseball Writers Association of America will announce the AL Cy Young winner on Tuesday, November 15.

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Two people should have their blogger pass taken away.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:03 AM PST reply actions  

McCarthy owns as both a player and a person.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

In the AL: 12th in ERA, 1st in FIP, 6th in xFIP, 9th in WAR. A much better pick than Fister or Gio

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he meant the two first place votes for CC rather than Verlander

by Michael White on Nov 8, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Better than Verlander in FIP, xFIP and WAR.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Tie breaker. Who had the better UZR? :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 8, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That was my assumption.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Really. Fister and Gio? ;-)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Fister Price?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Congrats Verlander, the trophy's in the mail

now, More Nostalgia!

The Angels have the only logo which could be confused for a piece of a US map.

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

I had a later version of that. So awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Today’s version would be so stylistically clumsy with two blank rows in one column, and one in so many others.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t wait for the 2013 magnet standings board to come out

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

from a comment last thread re: Posey

Is he going to be a catcher going forward?

by BFDC on Nov 8, 2011 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

Unless he can play RF

I don’t think the Giants have a choice

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 8, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, if he’s not a catcher then he can’t be a Giant.

Last year at this time the debate was if Torres was legitimate or not.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose they could consider Huff a lost cause

and move Buster to LF or 1b, but I don’t see that happening next year.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

or they could run Belt to RF and Huff to LF

that could be amusing

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 8, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Have there been any reports about his leg healing? 1B is out of the question? I know they have Huff and Belt, but Huff is kinda worthless anyways.

by BFDC on Nov 8, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

The HuffPillBelt Report?


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Home and road patches?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Assumed the left was a uni patch, the right a decal for other things.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Weird seeing King Felix so low this year. Hope that does not happen to Clayton.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Almost the same FIP and xFIP as last year, ERA a run and a half higher. You can’t expect consistency from a pitcher.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

At least we know

that all these players are eligible for the award.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

Tomorrow will be, in a word, interfuckingesting

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Let me guess

Phil was the one person who voted for David Price because he was on his fantasy team. :)

by Xeifrank on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

Hey?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

My daily dig at you. Keeping you on your toes.

by Xeifrank on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Joke was good, but I feel compelled to note that Phil and I only voted on NL awards :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Congrats on being better than a league that isn’t playing.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

y’all shoulda known I was up to something when I was so happy about the lockout : )

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

it's apples to oranges

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 8, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

it is apples to oranges

The NBA and NHL have more games to drag attendance down while operating at similar capacity. This was inevitable if MLS could consistently approach sell outs

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I would actually throw both the apples and oranges at you.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Let me guess the order

1. NFL
2. MLB
3. MLS
4. NBA
5. NHL

I would think NCAAF would be up near the top unless you are talking pro sports only. Does the list change if you go by percent of stadium full? Does that bump MLS to #1?

by Xeifrank on Nov 8, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I would guess MLS still wouldn’t catch NFL in that case. Teams like the Giants, Packers, Jets, et al have had sellouts every week since the 70s.

by Michael White on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

you've got the order right

and yes, NCAAF doesn’t count since it’s not a pro sport, but capacity also varies greatly from big school to small school. I dunno about percent cap, and yeah Mike’s right, the NFL would probably still be tops

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

76% of Americans do not miss the NBA.

83% of United State Citizens have never watched professionally paid adults kick a ball with their feet while wandering back and forth for 60 minutes.

93% of United States Citizens over the age of 50 were aware of a league called MLS

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

Damm - Unaware:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

and it’s 90 minutes, only since sports with eggs for balls go 60

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Rugby – egg shaped – 80 Minutes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Silly balls?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

90 silly minutes?


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t the casual basketball fans get interested in the NBA right around Christmas Day?

I ask based on advertising. I always see ads for the big Christmas Day basketball games replayed ad nauseum. So I just assume that nobody cares about the NBA until Christmas — and that’s not counting the people who don’t care about the NBA until the postseason.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe but is any money ever made from the casual fan of anything? Does anyone really care when they get interested?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I would guess that casual baseball fans are where the money is at. I would guess that there are way more people who want to go to a game and get blitzed on watery $8 beers on a Tuesday night than right now are saying “OMG will Clayton Kershaw get the CYA?.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

and

ESPN starts airing games from the tipoff of the season, it’s just ABC that takes awhile. So casual fan also doesn’t have cable, or maybe just no cable channels in HD, so Christmas is the first time casual fan can see the colors in Kobe’s sweat

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, ESPN and TNT start immediately.

by Michael White on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

You have the hardcore fans who will basically come no matter what, so there’s no point in reaching out to them. If you can get the casual fan to care you broaden your fan base.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I really like the new Nike commercial with What’s his Name playing outdoors at playgrounds……
Then the punchline…….’Basketball Never Stops". (Except for right now).

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Nov 8, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

As a negotiating tactic David Stern is going to blow up the NBA. He may win the skirmish but the divide he creates within the player union can’t be good. Lot of squirming must be going on right now.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

JMO – basically he has given the players until Wednesday to accept their best deal, after Wednesday it goes back to 47%, (4 % below the current offer).

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Then I hope the ABA makes a comeback.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t they try that, then it became the D-League or some such nonsense. I went to an LA Stars game at the Forum when I was in high school, Ed O’Bannon was on the team, and I was still a UCLA fan then

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to a UCLA game where Shon Tarver played against them on the Athletes in Action team.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

D-League is man on top if there’s no A B or C leagues.

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by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

The old ABA gave us multi-colored basketballs and the three-point line. I wonder what a new ABA might spawn. A no foul out rule?


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Chick smiles

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

4 point line from half-court and the 5 pointer from behind the 3-line into the 20ft tall hoop.

by BFDC on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

The Homeboys would have the advantage over the Awayboys on that.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Shirts and Skins

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Dudes are so tatted up you can’t tell anymore which is which.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently

The New ABA is still playing – it includes the Los Angeles Slam and the Riverside Rainmakers, and apparently the SoCal Slam who play in Harbor City. Where in Harbor City do you put a semi-pro basketball team

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure…but I noticed one team played their home games at the Salvation Army!

by latenite on Nov 8, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Holding out hope the players and owners meet and work out a deal by tomorrow.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

My hope is that the ultimatum is Stern trying to coummincate to the players that the owners are crazy enough to really blow up the whole season which I still think is just a scare tactic.

by Michael White on Nov 8, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Baseball canceled the last half of the ‘94 season. The NFL had games with “replacement” players. It doesn’t seem completely unbelievable the owners dump the season.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The NHL also lost a full season

by Michael White on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t pop to mind, which says something about the NHL. Or me. Or both.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re still waiting on TeamTennis to come back, aren’t you?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Anna Kournikova was made for that!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought she was made for the NHL lockout.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Anna was made for all of us

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

For the owners, it’s a lot of money. For the players, it’s essentially all of their money. Without knowing the nest egg the union is able to work from, the owners know that the players may have less dollars to lose, but they have more to lose.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The Clippers and Lakers have my money, issuing credits as games get cancelled. They are not paying the basketball arena’s, they are not paying the players, they have small over heads since they have no tickets to sell. Owners can easily win this if they are not interested in making money in 2011/2012 but the price could be long term fan apathy as it drags on and more and more fans realize they got other stuff to do.

 As you said the only money the players have are the salaries, and historically the NBA player has been the player the most likely to spend everything he makes.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Staples must be in a tough situation.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel for the people who normally work events there that have a drastic income reduction (right before the holidays) with the arena dark for Lakers and Clippers games.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think the owners are bluffing

the NBA doesn’t age the same way players do

each year the players don’t play is a significant hit to their lifetime networth

by Hollywood Joe on Nov 8, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t the NFL union have big divides in the last couple labor negotiations? The NFL is surviving nicely. Different situations, of course.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Other than it happened more recently, I don’t see comparing the NFL to the NBA, rather than the NBA to the NHL.

by Michael White on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Point is it is hard to draw straight conclusions about the longer term from possible divides in the union.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Of all the sports I’ve watched that I never had a chance to play I think Rugby would be the one I’d have enjoyed the most.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

Curling. Those fuckers take smoke breaks!


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I think auto racing would scare the holy hell out of me.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You can get a taste of auto racing by participating in an autocross day. My friend races, so I went with him once. It is funny as hell, people racing around a coned tracked in the parking lot in Fontana or wherever.

My buddy races two types of cars. He has a Lotus Elise and sometimes races that. But his big thing lately is the 24 Hours of LeMons, which requires a car purchased for a maximum of $500 and all the teams have silly themes.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that would be fun

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t be fooled – despite the cheap cars (FYI, safety equipment is not counted in the price) and silly themes, the teams generally take the racing pretty seriously. Not all of ‘em, of course – there’s only so serious you can be in, say, a hearse – but seriously enough. One should have some idea about what one is doing on a track before signing up.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

A good friend of mine died on the California Speedway doing the pretend race car driving just over a year ago now. I would strongly encourage everyone NOT to do that.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn, sorry to here that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry to hear about your friend. It certainly underscores, and tragically, that this is a serious, serious sport, and not to be taken lightly.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mean to be a killjoy. But I do bristle when I hear people thinking of racing cars just for the hell of it. Even the “experts” are subject to the laws of physics (Earnhardt, Weldon, etc. etc.), amateurs are even more prone to disaster.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That is unfortunate and sorry to hear that.

But there are many other things that I do that people have been killed at. Snow skiing, for example. I try to make sure I know my limitations though, which is why I’ll never drive a car at triple-digit MPH.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You’ve never hit 100 on the freeway? I mean, I’m not proud of it, but there have been a few times that I’ve chugging along and got going faster than I’d intended and looked down to the speedometer and gotten a surprise.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

beep beep

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Beep beep

His horn went beep beep beep

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t done over 85 in quite awhile. In my youth, I used to enjoy speeding. I rode in a Ferrari once when my girlfriend had it up to 120. That’s the fastest I’ve ever gone in a car

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You let the girlfriend with the Ferrari get away??


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

She was delivering Ferrari’s to clients. She didn’t own one. Back then her car was a Triumph Spitfire.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Even out on a lonely desert highway with no traffic, things seems awfully quick somewhere around 95 MPH. Never ever pushed it out to 100.

When I was young and stupid enough to maybe have tried it on purpose, the ’66 Rambler was incapable of it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

And now I am.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Just posted that!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Rec’d.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

One of two songs I remember from middle school chorus, along with an Ewok song, but not the one from Episode VI. I think we maybe also sang something by Styx.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't watch Glee

Have they ever done Styx? I always Styx was very stagy, like actors singing rock-style show tunes. In fact, for the same reason I’m surprised I’ve never seen someone do Styx at karaoke.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Long Long songs

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Again, like in musicals

Don’t you think many karaoke singers like to occupy the stage as long as possible?

Lady is the only short one I can think of.

I bet a Styx song based musical would sell tickets.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Sail Away

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the song we sang was “Show Me the Way” which would make for a perfect song in a musical.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Germany autobahn ftw. 170 mhp but I wasn’t driving.

by Xeifrank on Nov 8, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, yes. People die driving at the speed limit on city streets too, and I continue to do that. Unnecessary risks are just not worth it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, never had one iota of interest in auto racing. Would love to get on an empty track and have a go against a timer but that it is.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

its tons of fun

but man does it tire you out. You run seemingly as much as soccer, but with the benefit of constantly going to the ground hard and having to get back up. You haven’t lived until you have scrummed

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 8, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

On a lighter note, it would be cool if you engineering birds designed a kick ass TBLA derby themed car for the next Red Bull derby day in Los Angeles.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Who would pay for it?

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Lighter note

We need a TBLA Doo-Dah parade entry.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

We’d only get one vote, and it’d be for second place.

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric can be Frank McCourt, and everybody else can be dollar bills.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

you’d be a more apt Frank.

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The problem is

we need to move in generally the same direction.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Doo Dah parade

My astronomy buddies entered as a jazz funeral for Pluto’s status as a planet, and their group featured CalTech’s Mike Brown, the astronomer who played the key role in Pluto’s demotion.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I’ve been saying this for years, and then I look up and the bugger has already happened.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose I could (and will) go to Google, but what is the Doo-Dah parade?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Silly people in silly costumes march in silly parade through Pasadena. Imagine the Rose parade but with nobody giving a shit, everybody having fun, no TV, and many fewer people.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

so it’s like the How Berkeley Can You Be parade, or Bay to Breakers in SF

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The Doo Dah parade started in 1978 and has always been solely humerous. Bay to Breakers has a serious past, and is still partly a serious run. When did the comedic element first show up?


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

solely humerous

Except when it was femur.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

and more fun

did I say more fun

We must show Eric some youtubes.

The Briefcase Brigade

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Imagine the Rose parade but with nobody giving a shit

This is how I imagine the Rose parade. (except for the number of years my nieces and/or nephews performed in said parade)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

There is nothing about thousands of flowers decorating a float that adds up to not giving a shit. Decorating a float with thousands of flowers is giving many, many shits.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I decorated a float once. It consisted of gluing seaweed onto a butterfly wing. I spent like six hours and covered something like 1/24 of the wing. There were 3 other butterflies on that float.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

By “nobody” I meant me

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

You care about the Rose Parade?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve decorated rose floats something like 5 of the last 7 years. Fun stuff

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

/facepalm


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, right?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I had to make the sound.
/callback


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

:)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 8, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we have our next TBLA gathering, it will be an educational experience. And potlock.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

appears they moved it from November to April

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Not worth it

It’s gotten gradually smaller to where they only block off a couple blocks now.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Why wait for a parade when you can just video your little act and post it on youtube.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, after doing some digging, I have even less interest in the Doo Dah parade than I did before I knew what it was.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I have never actually attended one. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is one of those things that is funnier in concept than it is in execution.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been to one, 20 years ago. It was fun then, it might have progressed into something entirely different now.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

You may have also.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

True

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s OK. It’s not long. And when I went, I had friends in the parade, as I mentioned, so it was fun to wait and then cheer for them.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of lottery tickets

I’m thinking about buying some $10 scratchers. It’s definitely risk/reward if you don’t have money to throw away, but there’s some decent prizes available. Odds are like 1 in 3 or 4 of winning something.

by silverwidow on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

Last thread, as a metaphor for pitching help.

by silverwidow on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

People who are bad at math.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

You would be way better off going to a casino and putting that money on black.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Nov 8, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Wesley Snipes agrees from his undisclosed location.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

or playing a couple hands of blackjack with the old ladies betting their pill money at the Hustler Casino

by Josie Becker on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

If you have money to throw away

isn’t it better to learn to be a decent poker player.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

if you have money to throw away, and it’s all for entertainment anyway, what does the return matter? It’s throwaway money.

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Which is why I’d rather burn that throwaway money in a real casino, complete with noises, smoke, and cocktail waitresses.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but I was more speaking to the general disdain for people spending money on the lottery. If you think this $1 is your ticket to wealth and fame, you’re dumb. If you have an extra dollar and want a minute of excitement, have at it.

That said, when is TBLA Santa Anita happening?

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

An extra $1, sure. $10 scratchers? I’d rather buy a cigar and smoke it.


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by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

The smoke in your lungs adds injury to insult.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

i am 0 for 7 on the 10 dollar scratcher

but i did win 138 on the daily 3 two weeks ago

by delias man on Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

And slot machines

have 97.6 payback percentages. How can you lose?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Few hours left to live:

Would you rather have your loved ones gathered around you as you slowly faded off to the netherlands, drugged out to keep the pain at bay, so they could comfort you

OR

fired off of a huge sling shot capable of launching you 1000 feet up in the air fully cognizant of every moment as you came crashing back to earth for the rush of a lifetime

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

B would be pretty awesome

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Who knew that when you died, you go to Amsterdam.

Or maybe it’s Utrecht.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

netherlands, drugged

Nice.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

B sounds like an unproduced episode of Northern Exposure utilizing The Fling.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Fetchez la vache.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

If I only had a few hours left to live, I tell you what I'd do

Two girls at once.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Fuckin A & B

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

those hoes dont want your sickly and dying ass

by delias man on Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That is when cashing in the life insurance at 80 cents on the dollar comes in handy:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes!!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

These setups are too good

by Eric Stephen on Nov 8, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Quick, turn it to channel 9!

by BFDC on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

How small would a chick have to be in order to be Humma’s spinner?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it dark on Rosecrans?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Phil is the one who is studying Quantum Mechanics. He should answer.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d have to know some variables that I’m not interested in knowing

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

A. Even in death, I’m a chicken.

by G.Scott on Nov 8, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

When I go

I want to go out like my uncle, in my sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers

/oldjoke

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

/stillfunny

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Check out the fanposts

GScott has put together a reasonable-lookin’ team for a $120 million payroll.

The good news: it looks entertaining and not terrible.

The bad news: it’s not good either.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Nov 8, 2011 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Link.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

since the older generation has mentioned him before

though i’d post this tidbit about Yoenis Cespedes

The scout compared him to a young Torii Hunter/Vernon Wells type. But he went old school with his best comp: Jimmy "The Toy Cannon" Wynn. Wynn hit 291 homers and stole 225 bases while hitting .250 over a 15-year career (most of which came in the pitching-friendly Astrodome).

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 8, 2011 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

Wynn also walked a shit-ton and had a .366 career OBP to go with that. Walked 218 times and K’d 181 in two Dodger seasons.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Toy Cannon had walked at the same rate as HOF Dawson his career would not have been as interesting.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 8, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Cespedes means lawns? Good name for an OF I suppose.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 8, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Si Cespedes

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Fox Sports Writers

The starting pitchers who are known or thought to be available in trades include:

Rays right-handers James Shields and Wade Davis.


*Athletics lefty Gio Gonzalez and righty Trevor Cahill.


*Braves righty Jair Jurrjens.


*White Sox lefty John Danks and righty Gavin Floyd.


*Cubs righty Carlos Zambrano.


*Dodgers righty Chad Billingsley.



*Astros lefty Wandy Rodriguez.

so is it Known or Thought?

WHICH?!?!?!?!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 8, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

well played

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 8, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The writer thinks he knows that he’s available. I think.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Nov 8, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The McRib as an Arbitrage Vehicle

Key line:
Fast food involves both hideously violent economies of scale and sad, sad end users who volunteer to be taken advantage of

http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/a-conspiracy-of-hogs-the-mcrib-as-arbitrage

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Nov 8, 2011 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

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