Clayton Kershaw Wins SB Nation NL Cy Young Award...But So Does Roy Halladay
Clayton Kershaw and Roy Halladay (and for that matter, Cliff Lee) each had award-worthy seasons in 2011. Kershaw won the triple crown, leading the league in the traditional categories of wins, strikeouts, ERA, and also WHIP; Halladay led in the advanced stats of FIP, fWAR, and rWAR. Halladay was ahead of Kershaw in xFIP too, but both were behind Zack Greinke and Lee. Using the neutralized stats on Baseball-Reference.com, Kershaw and Halladay were remarkably close:
- Halladay: 18-7, 2.59 ERA, 226 innings, 36 walks, 213 strikeouts, 1.106 WHIP
- Kershaw: 17-7, 2.62 ERA, 223 innings, 57 walks, 237 strikeouts, 1.076 WHIP
The point is that Kershaw and Halladay were very similar in 2011. Neither would be a bad choice for the National League Cy Young Award. SB Nation writers were so divided, they couldn't pick just one, as Kershaw and Halladay tied for the NL Cy Young. Here are the sister-kissing results:
| Rank | Name | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Clayton Kershaw | 14 | 11 | 2 | 1 | 149 | |
| 1 | Roy Halladay | 13 | 13 | 2 | 149 | ||
| 3 | Cliff Lee | 4 | 21 | 2 | 83 | ||
| 4 | Ian Kennedy | 3 | 14 | 6 | 43 | ||
| 5 | Cole Hamels | 1 | 7 | 8 | 29 | ||
| 6 | Madison Bumgarner | 2 | 3 | 7 | |||
| 7 | Tim Lincecum | 1 | 4 | 6 | |||
| 8 | Matt Cain | 1 | 3 | 5 | |||
| 9 | Chris Carpenter | 1 | 2 | ||||
| 10 | Johnny Cueto | 1 | 1 | ||||
| 10 | Zack Greinke | 1 | 1 | ||||
| 10 | Craig Kimbrel | 1 | 1 |
Points were awarded as follows: seven points for a first place vote, four points per second place vote, three points per third place vote, two points per fourth place vote, and one point for every fifth place vote.
The one person who gave Kershaw a fifth place vote was from Gaslamp Ball, the SB Nation blog for the San Diego Padres. That person's ballot: Hamels, Lee, Halladay, Kennedy, Kershaw. Had Kershaw received merely a fourth place vote instead of fifth, he would have won this award.
I think this is the proper reaction to that ballot.
As for our ballots here at True Blue LA, here they are:
- Me: Kershaw, Halladay, Lee, Kennedy, Hamels
- Phil Gurnee: Kershaw, Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Kennedy
The Baseball Writers Association of America will announce the NL Cy Young winner on Thursday, November 17.
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You don't use number of first place votes as the tiebreakers?!?!
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Nope. Just ask Willie Stargell and Keith Hernandez.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
14 – 13 first place votes tells the tale.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ok
so gaslamp ball is written by jackasses. Duly noted.
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by nolander on Nov 9, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Half-written by jackasses at least.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If the other writer doesn't immediatly
and completely disavow the guy who gave him the 5th vote, thats all the evidence I need to know they are both jackasses.
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The voter isn’t on the masthead at Gaslamp Ball. Otherwise I would have used their name.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
So as fucked up as the coach having the equipment manager vote in the coaches poll for NCAA football. Nice.
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or the Sporting News awards in MLB, etc.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I believe a writer from either Purple Row or AZ SnakePit gave Juan Pierre an MVP vote in 2009 and he DID come here and defend his vote.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t like talking to idiots, he can stay in his fucking hidey hole
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Kershaw was on a shitty team.
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by regfairfield on Nov 9, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
That's what I'm thinking
His logic is probably: Playoff aces > non-playoff aces.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Regular Idiots > Idiots who root for Padres
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
If it’s like actual CYA voting, the vote took place before the season ended.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Ballots were due before the playoffs started
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
HJ the game is not until Feb, I want to wait and see if we sign Prince if that does not bring in a more high quality TBLA softball playing membership then what we currently have to work with:)
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ok
I am doing a fine job of mocking the young ones on the last thread
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I was out of town last time, but if I make it, I’ll be sure to help prevent a repeat occurrence of that
Are you interested in representing TBLA in a Dodger Blogger tournament?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Are you good enough for me to give you the particulars
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ha I was kinda surprised you would ask me based only on me trash talking
I’m not a big power hitter, I just hit singles and doubles pretty much, but I’m consistent, and a reliable infielder
We will need you and Xeifrank to post a you tube video extolling your SS skills. Loser gets 2nd base:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Loser gets 2nd base
Sounds like the Dodgers offseason plan :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
roast a pig at the end, show’s how down to earth you are
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Practice? You talking about practice?
Seriously
If we are doing this, if would not be a bad idea to practice a couple of times. Just to get a handle on what we have and who should play where
I don’t wan’t to lose due to carelessness. I don’t want to fucking lose at all
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I am on record for never wearing a cup, so I am down
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
unprotected nads in the Nard
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
jrock
has to be in that middle infielder convo too, I think.
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I don’t know, he made a few errors under enormous old guy pressure. Taylor didn’t make all of them, it just seemed like it.
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Obviously not clutch.
I saw a lot of big hops killing his chest.
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That’s what Mrs. Meercat said.
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When the “their left side ofthe infield is to die for” comment happened, I knew he was carrying the team on that one.
I don't want to play pitcher
I want to play outfield
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Rules
Two females per team, minimum of one in the field at all times. Just a heads up to our recruiting office.
must... not... make... affermative... action... joke
/ellipsed
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Now is the time for a Cal joke:
Do they not have spell check at Irvine?
I’m sorry, Reg. I feel dirty. Ewww.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I stopped caring about spelling
when I learned about the magic of IDEs
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ps
do you like Halo Anniversary?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Is that out already?
I have too many games to pay almost full price for a rehash of a game that I’ve already played. it looks cool though, Halo 1 was always the best Halo.
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I don't think so
I know the new QA Assistant Lead. I am going to try and get him to give me swag.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I had to pitch last time
I did alright but it was infuriating
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Please, like Hubert ever went to Russia.
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Hubert, what happened to you?
Dave, you’ll appreciate this — I’m teaching Spawn to read. She had trouble with the word “house” — I had to explain silent e, a concept she’d never heard of. So I played Tom Lehrer for her!
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What the fuck is wrong with the guy from GLB?
I mean, i know Padres fans from there hate the Dodgers way more than normal padres fans and all, but really?
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RTFA
The one person who gave Kershaw a fifth place vote was from Gaslamp Ball, the SB Nation blog for the San Diego Padres. That person’s ballot: Hamels, Lee, Halladay, Kennedy, Kershaw. Had Kershaw received merely a fourth place vote instead of fifth, he would have won this award.
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forever to be known as
Asshat Ball
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Get mildly upset against the machine.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Who on earth can justify
voting Kennedy over Kershaw…and Hamels first. They should just disregard his ballot, awful.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
And the winner of the Failing to Read the Whole Article Award goes to…
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
based on comments above, Gas Light Ball?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It was Ingrid Bergman?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
A quick scan of GLB shows the articles all being written by “jbox” or “Dex.” My cursory reading puts my money on the asshat by jbox.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Those are the two managers listed below....there aren't any other staff members, either.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I need to be more clear
I have the names and ballots of all the voters for the SB Nation awards.
The ballot in question from Gaslamp Ball did not come from jbox or Dex. Being a manager or staff member on a blog is not a requirement for voting. Each site can have up to two voters for awards for their league, and not every site manager necessarily participates.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
I see.
I was just bewildered, i wasn’t questioning you.
I love how he’s also the only guy not to vote for Halladay/Kershaw with his 1st place vote. It’s like a chimp just threw darts in a dartboard for his picks.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
I will bet you a beer that when he comes out with his reasoning, that it is not interesting.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
No bet.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
no but seriously, just curious is all. Either way, fuck it… Nobody talks about SB awards on TV. I feel like were talking about fantasy football awards. But its all good.
No, its very much real, and hard work actually. But it was just a joke man, not to be taken too seriously.
hahaha you hate women you so funny
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by regfairfield on Nov 9, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
but yes I do believe some things should just be a man thing, and some things should be just a woman thing. Whatever that makes me, asshole, sexist, jerk off, whatever.
I seriously fear for your daughter.
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by regfairfield on Nov 9, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
lol ok… this guy, you dont even know me, but you judge me off comments I make off some blog. I fear for you man. What I do at work on the internet, and what I do in my real life is 2 seperate things man… but yeah my daughter knows its her job to cook and clean, and my job to watch sports, I fear for her too.
AND IT BETTER BE GOOD LAND! None of this swamp in Florida crap
by Josie Becker on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I’m going to let you vote for the SB Nation awards next year.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
for example
male and female strippers should be segregated. Its just too confusing otherwise. Also, Hooters staff should always be female.
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I’m personally waiting for the opening of Codpieces
by Josie Becker on Nov 9, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
You can get cod pieces here

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
its not like he is the first guy
to make a misogynistic joke on this blog.
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I have made a minor career of it at times
I do it in a manner that tells everyone I am really mocking myself….but still
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I do it in a manner that tells everyone I am really mocking myself
Yep. That is what I try to do, too, with varying degrees of success.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
no
but he’s the first guy to suggest that someone’s opinion be discounted for the sole fact that that person in question may have a vajay or identify that way.
It’s beyond ridiculous and on behalf of intelligent women everywhere, USChris, I’d like to say that you are about as big of an asshat as the person who voted Clayton Kershaw 5th.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Hah. About.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I completely doubt that he is the first
to make a joke that a womens opinion is less valid because she is a woman. You may not like how he joked about it(and I’m not over the moon about it myself), but he was joking.
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on the other hand, if he mocked the WNBA, he would just be me
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
The issue is not the particular joke that he made.
The issue is that it is the latest in a series of borderline/questionable comments. Most of those are of the “whatever” variety and easy enough to let go, but none of ’em do anything to build his cred.
I make borderline/questionable comments every single day here, but (1) when I cross a line, people tell let me know, and I apologize, and (2) I’m pretty sure everybody accepts that apology, because I like to think I’ve built up some cred here —sure that cred is as a tiny, angry asshole midget who knows nothing about anything and baseball least of all, but one who tries not to be an actively bad dude.
That is the issue: the history, not this comment.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would argue
he has a history of having his comments being taken far seriously then they are intended too. This is not the first time people jumped all over him for something I could tell was a joke from the get go, and lo and behold he would then say yeah dude I was joking.
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and yes
his delivery rubs the wrong way.(Hey Chris!) But come on, there are smart people here who should be able to tell that he is joking.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’m sorry, I don’t have the intelligence necessary to parse out such crafty humor wrapped in a delicious sentence.
Because of the whole woman thing. :D
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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smiley face emoticons
save so many feelings.
Maddz here demonstrates proper use.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I can say all sorts of things in jest that are wildly offensive. And I do, often, in my mind or to Gary. But I don’t here. Elevate the discourse, Nolander.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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its about being consistent
people are jumping all over chris for something that I’ve seen happen numerous other times on this blog. If you want to elevate the discourse, be consistent in who you call out.
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the crime was committed, but the punishment harsh
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I have to agree with this, the punishment did not fit the crime and I’m impressed with your defense.
It was just a bad sexist joke, everyone should have simply moved on.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
so when something offends us on here
what would be the appropriate course of action? Ignore it? Flag it? Check to see if it’s a “good TBLA” member like HJ or Phil and then react accordingly?
This is a serious question.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Flag it,, for one.
IMO, when one comments in a community such as this one, one is commenting to the audience, which is this community as a whole, and one should consider that when writing any comment. OTOH, this is known to be a pretty loose ship, so that has to be taken into account also.
That said, put me in group of people who can’t always tell when uschris is joking or not.
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by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I actually enjoy the fact that he doesn’t try to sensor himself just to be accepted. I know when I first got here I held back on my opinion a bunch of times because you guys didn’t (still don’t?) really know me and my jokes or opinions would come off more abrasive than they were meant.
That said, I pretty much just sit here dumbfounded by almost everything he ever says. That’s a good thing in my opinion. Things get boring when everyone agrees. Though learning to know when to stop and move along might be needed every now and then.
Yup every blog needs that person who makes everyone do a facepalm don’t they?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I thought that was why I was on staff.
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You are the 2011 Red Sox of people.
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by regfairfield on Nov 9, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I was gonna say that there’s no way that this could be right, because I bet the 2011 Red Sox would probably recognize the brilliance of the sushi burrito, but now that I think about it, they probably wouldn’t.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
They would probably question your sexual orientation
for eating such a thing
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There are plenty of things that I won’t do because I’m not all that confident in my sexual orientation. When it was raining the other day, I had no umbrella, and I was offered a Hello Kitty umbrella. I just couldn’t take it, even though I have fathered two children.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. GIRLS.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That is a good point.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
That would have been so baller dude!
I would have taken it in a second
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Way to go, Dr. Huxtable.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And sometimes they were argyle

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
nice pull
I sold those Coogie sweaters at Nordstrom in the day – people would come in asking for the “Cosby sweater”
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
And did they all then do a bad impression and ask for Jello Pudding POPS?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
if the job was that cool, I’d still be in “fashion”
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
I hear ya. I know. It is my failing, my own inadequacy, my own lack of confidence.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Only if it was still covered in fried chicken grease and wet with beer.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
wiping my ass with torn pieces of Nylon might do in a pinch, but would not be my first choice
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, girls don’t know anything about sports. Or science or math neither! That stuff is hard!
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting or not,
He’s just someone trying to make a point. Halladay, Kershaw, and Lee were obviously the best 3 this season.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
I actually like the way Eric spelled it out (a vote at 4th would have given Kershaw the award) because voting Halladay, Lee, Hamels at 1,2,3 is not THAT crazy. Haven’t looked it up today, but there was definitely a time late in the season when those 3 led the NL pitchers in fWAR. It’s the Kennedy vote that is crazy.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Except that he voted Hamels #1 and Lee #2
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Heh
Didn’t catch that.
By the way, my info above is clearly way outdated. Kershaw shot up and Hamels fell bad since I originally researched this.
Based on fWAR:
1) Halladay
2) Kershaw
3) Lee
big gap
4) Bumgarner
5) Cain
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Hamels was born in San Diego, it’s a hometown vote.
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by regfairfield on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
So the site can even nominate as a voter someone who has never written a single article? is there are requirement for being a voter other than “proposed by an SBN site”? Could an SBN site manager propose his younger brother or his girlfriend or the delivery guy from his local pizza place, no interest in baseball even? Coul the other managers blackball a site that does that somehow? Demand an inquiry? I demand you demand an inquiry!
Well, in future there should be a requirement “has to have written at least two articles” or something like that. Voting shouldn’t be open to non-writers-on-baseball.
I believe that means I am eligible for the voting. I like it.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Voting shouldn’t be open to non-writers-on-baseball.
Or girls neither!
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
That chart is really annoying
When i look at 6,7,8
On the brightside if it weren’t for new voting rules Halladay would have won straight up.
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No problem.
I have a temperamental Droid 2 so i have to do that a lot.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Have never removed the battery from my iPhone3.
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I hate phones without real keyboards
touch screen keyboards are annoying. I can use them pretty well but the buttons are always so small that i still make a bunch of mistakes along the way.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what I thought too, and I have fat fingers. But it takes roughly minutes to get used to it and it no longer becomes an issue.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Awfully inflexible for a young’n. My experience is like Eric’s – didn’t take long to get used to the touch screen keyboard. Good autocorrect helps though.
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Why would the King of the gods have yellow skeet? Is he ill?
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like Zeus needs to go see Asclepius.
by fbihop on Nov 9, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
why would the King of the gods use autotune, or commission a burger at all. These are teh questions advertising puts in my brain
by Josie Becker on Nov 9, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
god have you been to STL lately, that's all they have there! its damn good!
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Fuck 5 Guys
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Look, we don’t want to hear how you got accepted to Cal State Fullerton, dude…
Oh wait, nevermind…
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Too early
for our conversation from last night to flow over to this thread
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
look, its a lot of work, ok?
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
what do you mean, finally!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Omg
Two Wolf references in this post already. That’s more than enough
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yeah, not Nicholson’s best work.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Pollyanna says....
The San Diego voter had things reversed. He thought “5” for Kershaw was a first place vote. “4” for Kennedy meant second place…
LMAO
but really it does make sense tho… hamels at number 5 is perfect… kershaw at number 1 is too!
No
The ballot was a form, clearly labeled with each entry below the next. There was no ambiguity.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Your first post was clearly tongue in cheek and funny. The trouble came when everyone else let a good joke get in the way of the facts.
To be clear, the converse of Humma’s First Law is not a law.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
For some reazon, this exhange that just happened reminded me of the Jeopardy parodies from SNL
by Julio Nievas on Nov 9, 2011 11:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
My take
1. When I take a step back and try to look at the whole thing from a Zen point of view, I think it is natural and right that Kershaw and Halladay ended up tied. Sure, I’d have voted for Kershaw #1, but it’s not a slam dunk. The two are very, very close — maybe too close to call — so to have them end up tied maybe is the best descriptor of who the best pitchers in the NL were this year.
2. That said, fuck you, Gaslamp Ball.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:25 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
1) I would have voted Kershaw first.
2) If I wasn’t a Dodger fan, I probably would have voted Hallady first.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Ooo, a Laker prototype

From when they were switching from the old blue script jerseys to the yellow for the Forum.
That sounds dirty.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
the Laker logo would be so different without those speed lines. More peaceful, I’d imagine
by Josie Becker on Nov 9, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Compare and contrast
The L in Lakers above, and…..

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Finally
the pic that gets through your fire wall, but is blocked by mine.
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Clearly, GSB boy accurately predicted everyone else’s vote. Knowing a Halladay 2 and Kershaw 5 would make for a tie, which is a perfectly reasonable scenario, he took the bullet in the name of fairness.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
rabble rabble
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 10:41 AM PST reply actions
not enough friction on wide, makes sense
by Josie Becker on Nov 9, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Too much misogyny has gone one without one of these

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
thats creepy, looking at pictures of women on the internet is insensitive, and demoralizing. As a father of a daughter, I will no longer partake or make comments on such atrocity because apparently to some on the internet, being the father to a daughter means I can no longer be a man.
by uschris0304 on Nov 9, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I’d hold her Hello Kitty umbrella, if you know what I mean.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
g-d she is beautiful
I can’t WAIT for mad men!!! it’s killing me!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Cal sure is great at stuff!
/not holding straight face
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Davis is really good at smelling like cows!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
- school at smelling like cows, right after U. of Tejon Ranch.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Argh. That should say #1.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I'm in the infamous cow-smelling dorms (Tercero)
Literally across the street from the cow pens.
You only smell it like 4-ish times a month.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Whereas at most universities, you smell it zero times a month.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Just saying it's overblown.
Even then, the smell isn’t very bad.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Man, go away for a few minutes and hell breaks lose. If we get this uppity over an SB Nation vote what is going to happen when “real baseball writers” cost Clayton the Cy Young because someone wanted to make a point but didn’t understand how math works and screws our boy?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I will shrug and look for opportunities to make funnies
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Elevate the discourse
Maddz are you aware of where you are?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
There’s a marked difference, and you know this, between this and saying that only a woman could have fucked it up that badly.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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In this case “rolling eyes” would have been my response.
or as Eric likes to do “yawn”, I really hate it when he does that to something I wrote so eloquently.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
nothing worse then a halfhearted dismissal
I would rather be considered relevant enough to be told i’m stupid then ignored
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I figure that if you call a douchebag out on doucheyness, they have a slightly better chance to recognize douchey things and act accordingly.
But then, we have Nolander, so.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I BAKE a good Ciabatta roll now and then
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
I BAKEa good Ciabatta rollnow and then
through the magic of a line, I have turned you into a pot smoker
PRESTO!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
there's a line from a certain TV show theme song i was going to write
but looking through this thread, I probably shouldn’t. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
agree on the muffin too
like them grilled
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
The ciabatta roll used at Farmer Boys is a thinner variety, closer to an English muffin. I share your too much bread concern.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
problem with ciabatta for me, sometimes it is
too chewy. i dont want to fight with bread, just enjoy the burger/sandwich
what about a pretzel bun? I have yet to go to the Counter.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Have never had one for a burger; I’m sure it would be amazing.
If I go to Wienerschnitzel, I get my chili dog in a pretzel bun.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Pass the Salt

Says Ken Macha, or someone who looks just like him.
by StolenMonkey86 on Nov 9, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of burgers
P90X the sequel coming out, per a commercial I just heard. Need Brandon to confirm.
P90X 2
Electric Boogaloo
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
We are burning the wrong witches here people
Chris got torched for saying and being stupid, but it was the anger about Kid K that light the fire
Asshat ball took the blame for voting him 5th, but they were not the villains, simply the morans
If Eric and Phil, dropped their “goody two shoes fair baseball fans” personae and voted Halladay 3rd and Lee 2nd, as a preventive measure. We would be all celebrating Kid K as the sole winner
I know where the blame lies…I know
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 11:44 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
That's the Truth
Truth!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 9, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
If this comment ushers in stock market thoughts you are forbidden from complaining about off topic conversations ever again.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
At least that’s sports.
And I threw you a bone earlier saying that I could get behind a college football playoff!
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I’d play Ryan, mostly so if Eli doesn’t light it up the first quarter you don’t send me nasty messages on Twitter :)
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
ATL at home vs NO. Thats tough one because ATL is a run 1st time I think, so you never know what Ryan will do…. I got Eli too, 9ers have a good D but better vs run then pass, so that could be better for Eli. However Nicks is out I believe, so that sucks.
I think Nicks plays. He was supposed to practice today but didn’t, but I still think he plays.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
well if he does that makes my decision harder, because I like Romo at home, but he is without Austin, I dont know what to do. I just wish AJ would get his ass out there already, and though I dont own McFadden, as a Raider fan he needs to man up and say fuck it. Whats with the slow healers these days? I miss the old days when players played no matter what. Though I wasnt around to see those days.
the topic I was “responding” to was about burning witches. If I start a topic or thread about who I should start on my fantasy football team please douse my keyboard with gasoline.
why bro? Fantasy Football is sick!… But you also think they should take away fighting in hockey, so who knows.
I agree. Much like hearing people talk about poker.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t view it as details about the league. Nobody boasts about how good their team is, rather they ask for advice.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
what is the point in playing fantasy sports if you can’t boast about how fucking awesome your team is?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
only boast within your league and only within ear shot of those same people
and boasting isn’t nearly as much fun as cruelly poking at the other guys team
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
to annoy everyone around you at the bar you are at on Sunday
AH CRAP THE TEXANS SCORED BUT IT WASN’T FOSTER I’M SO MAD.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
yeah you can only boast to people in your league. If I win my league, I wouldnt come in here and boast cuz who gives a shit, you guys arent in it… I cant go to work monday and be like my team is FFL champions baby! because again, nobody in it will care. Not like when Lakers win it all, I can boast at work, in the streets, on FB, in here, everywhere… But if I win the FFL title this year I might turn someones car over and set on fire…
I’d put all the blame squarely on Eric for allowing me to vote instead of some hackneyed member who goes around shouting “Dodgers Rule Dodgers Rule”
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Top 5 Cy Young
1) Kershaw
2) Rubby
3) Jansen
4) Javy
5) McDougal
/we win
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
hey, who the fuck you calling a moron? thems fighting words son…. JUST….KIDDING…. But seriously, hey Nolander thanks for the defense man, your hired!, just get Andre Johnson back on the field for me…. and Maddz, probably doesnt mean much, but I truly am sorry if I offended you… I’m just different, I have a sense of humor where nothing offends me, nothing, and so I just say whatever I want. Ive viewed this site for probably a year now, so I have a feel for whats fair game and what isnt, and IMO I havent said anything worse then whats already been said here. But I never want to offend anyone, except maybe reg, because we dont like eachother. Ok, thats that.
by uschris0304 on Nov 9, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
But I never want to offend anyone, except maybe reg, because we dont like eachother.
ok, THAT was funny.
dude, you guys seem to remember I have a daughter, that alone should be enough to tell you im not serious, about everything I say anyways. Come on, you really believe I would bash women that was seriously having a daughter?
one should have nothing to do with another. That is like saying I can bash Mexicans because I married one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My wife has told me more than once, that she is able to complain about Asian drivers but I am not.
I argued that I am honorary Asian by marriage thus free of all bounds of good taste as it pertains to making insensitive and unfair comments about Asians.
Thus far, this honor of Asian-hood has not been bestowed upon me, but I am still holding out hope. I got some good material dying on the vine right now
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Do you let her make mafia jokes?
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Dude, I’m married. I don’t let anything. She “lets”, I cower.
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you had mentioned before. Her Asian side shows much less than mine.
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yeah true, thats why I said some comments. But the women belong in the kitchen style comments, or dont know sports comments, im not serious. I dont think that of my daughter she belongs in a kitchen, and by the time she is grown, she’ll know more about sports then alot of men, so its not serious comments. I guess I need the jk after comments. I said before I dont do smiley faces for the same reason Larry David mentioned.
Jerry Sandusky has six (adopted) children. Just being a father (of a daughter) is not enough to judge from.
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Trials are a good thing, shockingly boys lie
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
There are at least 7 alleged victims spread over time. Trials are good; the evidence is also mounting.
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When I was young, So Cal had a huge witchhunt over child molestation regarding a child care center, everyone was up in arms about how awful it was. Children Psych with a PHD said she talked to these children and declared “children don’t lie”. It was at that point everyone child in America looked at every other child in America and said “what the fuck she talking about”.
Trial come, they were innocent but lives had already been ruined. When it comes to molestation cases I take what the media provides with a grain of salt as the hysteria builds upon itself.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
you can read the entire grand jury report yourself if you want
its out there
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I remember this
McMartin, right?
Turns out the people were innocent
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
So was the defendent
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ladies and Gentlemen, hereeeeeeeeeeee’s Marty!
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
and grad assistants accuse their superiors of fondling boys often?
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Adopted 6! That is like take out Pizza that you get to keep eating over and over again
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
+ foster kids
I wonder what his wife did and didn’t know. If she knew nothing, she must be heartsick not knowing what he may or may not have done to all those adopted and foster kids she and he took in.
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+ fosters!?!?!
That is better than take out Pizza, that is like Pizza you get paid for eating and then get to return when you are finished so you can order a fresher pie.
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Thought this was interesting...two tweets from Jim Bowden
Amaro and Boras agreed to a 4-yr 44m sgp deal for Madson including award bonuses and an option yr….deal could be legally binding
David Montgomery has not approved the deal that Amaro made with Boras re: Madson….he has to trust his GM and the authority he’s given him
I don’t know what SGP stands for.
Solid Gold Pitcher?
What amaro must think Madson is.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
If it’s tied to the EU, that’s a crazy deal.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
BS
A boss should always intervene if he thinks his subordinate is doing something bat-shit crazy. And I’d guess that the deal is legally binding when the parties that are legally required to agree to it, agree to it.
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I want to ask Frank Wren when a deal is legally binding.
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No
According to the article, they lost 6.41 (adjusted) wins above replacement to injuries in 2011, which ranked 25th of 30 teams
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
context counts!
they were not the 1927 yankees, but instead an 87 win team
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Huh, look at me being stupid.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
So does that mean we lost the 6th most wins?
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Cole Hamels is from San Diego
Went to Rancho Bernardo High.
Parents still live there.
Mystery solved.
Smartest man in the room is the one who just walked in
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
someone else pointed this out earlier
believe it or not
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Jon Weisman linked an ESPN article about A-Ram's defense
Ramirez had 48 Defensive Misplays and Errors, second in the majors among third basemen to Mark Reynolds.
That included nine throwing errors (tied for third-most among third basemen) and 18 balls that went through him or off his body, on which he was not charged an error, but a hitter reached base (most among third basemen).
http://espn.go.com/blog/tmi-mlb/post/_/id/30796/jose-reyes-aramis-ramirez-share-flaws
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18 balls that went through him or off his body
Love that description
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
His jersey looks kinda like this?

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by David Young on Nov 9, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha.
Kind of why i posted it. People watched him, using their eyes, and counted his mistakes vs. other 3B.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
UZR does this too, as do other defensive metrics.
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But UZR attaches values to the mistakes seen that is generally what people argue about it
This is just a straight head count of mistakes.
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
(So it's harder to dismiss.)
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by Taylor Maricle on Nov 9, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
They also love to argue the judgment on where balls were, etc. The article says Reyes gets to a below-average number of balls in the hole to his right. Is that because his range sucks or because – CAUTION: everything that follows is just hypotheticals – the Mets insist on positioning the SS more up the middle than any other team, or because the Mets have 4 LH starters, or ….
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Well, I guess I spoke too soon. Oscar host is up for grabs everyone!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Eddie Murphy
He dropped, shortly after Bryce Rattner, the pray producer of Tower Heist dropped out, amid gay slurs, misogyny, the usual hollywood stuff
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
the producer
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Brett, not Bryce. Bryce is Ron Howard’s daughter.
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And that dude can flat out rake
I cannot believe what how he is destroying the AFL
Just think in two years – the Dodgers and Nationals will have the 4 best players in baseball locked up
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I have no idea what this is about.
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sorry, i guess my crush on Bryce Harper was taking over my brainz
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
no, not.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
it was really the crush on Bryce Dallas Howard.
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i love gingers.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
but actually, more like Prince Harry. He's still single!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Number one son is a gingie. We can chalk it up to my Irish side.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
he also said “women don’t know shit about shit, including baseball”
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think the most interesting man in the world would be an excellent choice
A man of very few words.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I don't usually host awards shows
but when I do, it’s the Acamedy Awards
by Billyum on Nov 9, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i like how people want to keep crying about public transportation to Dodger Stadium. Like the state/city/county has any money to build something to DS, and don’t people realize it would prolly take them 30 years to get something done?
http://thesource.metro.net/2011/11/08/things-im-thinking-about-transit/comment-page-1/#comments
I think we have the making of proper TBLA softball team but we do need one more skirt.
Known Quantites:
RobotbmadeofNails
David Young
Michael White
Hollywood Joe
Gary Scott
Maddz
DeliasMan
Bobby I’m Mad Down
Unknown Quantities:
Billyum
Xeifrank
UCLA32
Noij
What we do know is that Xeifrank tells us he’s good. Billyum thinks he’s better.
UCLA32 played College Ball
Noij is a Cal Graduate and was unable to make the Cal Baseball Team. So ………….
Am I missing names of folk who may want to play
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The softball chatter
is about this.
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It has never been done before, virgin territory. If they bring ringers it could get dicey.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dude, are you a Redondoite?
Would probably have to be in the valley, or santa Monica-ish to get most of the people on that list involved.
Torrance
I currently coach at Torrance High, about to head over to the field, we have a fall ball game today
Right now I’m in 3 slow pitch leagues, 2 at Wilson, and 1 at Anderson Park in Redondo
You get us an OPEN FIELD on a Saturday/Sunday and we will get enough people to have some fun.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ha, yeah. Same lights. We have tried to replace them, but it’s a bunch of political crap causing hurdles and stuff
It’s dangerous to play on that field. You already have to deal with pitching on gravel, the yellow lights make it look like 3 baseballs are coming at you.
Our mound is pretty legit right now. I never had an issue with the lights when I played, maybe we just get used to them and it’s a home field advantage for us
For some of us, virgin territory is something we haven’t seen in a while.
Then there’s Jerry Sandusky.
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nope, i throw like a girl.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
He’s a college kid, I wonder if he’s local college?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Per his profile
He’s Coast Guard in Long Beach – easy peasy?
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Nolij also looks like Bob’s Big Boy, if Bob became a man and grew a beard.
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Can you atleast get them to change the 2 pitchers of soda, to 2 pitchers of beer? Come on now, were all adults.
Since they have a minimum age of 18 to play
and probably don’t want any liability issues, I understand why they would leave the alcohol purchases to the individuals and the on-site restaurant.
To borrow from John Kruk, I’m not an athlete, I’m a baseball player.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’m twice the man he is, thankyouverymuch.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
BTW
according to their tournament rules: Minimum 12 players, minimum 2 women and minimum 1 woman on the field at all times.
Idk, Bobby "I'm Mad" Down might be too mad to play
he’s always just so damned mad
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
Top 30 Dodger Prospects For 2012
Later than usual with my rankings this year, but here they are. Guerra and Lindblom are ranked because I follow Baseball America in ignoring MLB service time and just count MLB innings and AB’s. And I really have to note something that strikes me as significant: In all the years I have been doing these lists, there has never been a year when so many players have appeared to me so debatable in their merits to the point of their rankings resembling something close to random. Of course the rankings you see reflect my considered opinion and best judgment, but looking over the list once I was finished, I had the sense that I almost could have come up with something similar if I had just drawn the names out of a hat for each slot. Ours, right now, is not a farm system with “sex appeal,” and I expect the likes of BA and BP to be very unimpressed, but I see a lot of depth, promise, and possibility if little — or maybe nothing — that will get people’s pulses racing.
(01). Nathan Eovaldi, RHP
(02). Allen Webster, RHP
(03). Zach Lee, RHP
(04). Garrett Gould, RHP
(05). Joc Pederson, RHP
(06). Javy Guerra, RHP
(07). Tim Federowicz, C
(08). Josh Lindblom, RHP
(09). Angel Sanchez, RHP
(10). Scott Van Slyke, OF/1B
(11). Alfredo Silverio, OF
(12). Angelo Songco, 1B
(13). Shawn Tolleson, RHP
(14). Griff Erickson, C
(15). Chris Withrow, RHP
(16). Chris Reed, LHP
(17). Steve Ames, RHP
(18). Aaron Miller, LHP
(19). Jonathan Garcia, OF
(20). Ethan Martin, RHP
(21). James Baldwin III, OF
(22).Josh Wall, RHP
(23). Cole St. Clair, LHP
(24). Jake Lemmerman, SS
(25). Noel Cuevas, OF
(26). Alex Castellanos, OF
(27). O’Koyea Dickson, 1B
(28). Blake Smith, OF
(29). Matt Magill, RHP
(30). Ivan DeJesus, Jr., 2B
by CanuckDodger on Nov 9, 2011 1:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I will make this a FanPost for you
Much too important for a mere comment.
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Would you like me to put up a fanpost of this where you can field questions?
And so it doesn’t get lost in this massive thread.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
why not? Seems like he is so far down the pitching prospect list now, and I think people felt he was a better hitter coming out of HS then pitcher. Combined with 3B is just a bare position in our system, why wouldnt you move him back to 3B?
Whoop-de-do.
Sorry, I actually know your answer is the correct one. He’s closer to the majors now as a reliever (even if that’s a low impact role) then he’ll probably ever be as a 3rd baseman. So the Dodgers may as well get something out of their investment, even if it’s just another Josh Lindblom type guy.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Right, he’s Josh Lindblom. Not exactly what you’re hoping for when you plunk down the bonus money to sign him out of high school, but some value is better than no value.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
He is only 22? I dont get it. Why is it too late? Maybe im dumb to how hard it is and I dont really pay attention to minor league stuff, but if Hamilton can take a few years off to go on a drug binge, why cant Martin convert back and be a good 3B? Is it impossible?
The problem is exactly that. Hamilton did take off two years, by the time he came back the Rays left him off the 40 man roster and someone took a chance. The Dodgers could convert him but he’d be taking up 40 man roster space for two more years before he’d even possibly be ready to make it and by then he might be a six year minor league free agent.
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I Have Read That...
…when it comes to amateur two-way players who have struggled in their role in the pros, you can take a failed hitter and make him a pitcher (a reliever, but not a starter), but you can’t take a failed pitcher and make him a hitter and have hope that he will make it to the majors. That is what I read is the expert opinion in baseball development circles.
Ankiel has had a modicum of success. Loewen has followed his footsteps but has yet to have that modicum of success.
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and then he got busted for hgh and went back to being just a guy
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Ha
those of you who mocked me for calling FedEx a top ten prospect.
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I disagree with you
EO is as sexy as they come.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
pfffttt.
whatevs. It’s the 21st century. Demi, Ashton, lalala can’t hear you.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
He can just barely get into bars!
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then he's legal!
full disclosure, i am marrying someone six months younger than me, so… i kind of have a penchant for younger dudes.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Someone to drive home after a night on the town, showing off her arm candy. Duh.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
high fives back
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
seriously tho,
dodger team needs to have a few regulation hotties besides Kemvp (that aren’t married at like age 12 (looking at you Chad and Clayton) ) to oogle at.. it brings up revenue!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Yes, Javy is dreamy
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
is the size of his pipe trying to tell me something?
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
What's the formula?
yourAge/2 + 7. Zooey is right on the cusp for me. I am old.
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if I tried dating a 19 year old
ya’ll would be up in arms!
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wait a minute, so you're saying i can take a 20.5 year old.. is that legal?
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
EO is mine!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Only because we know you’re married. Otherwise, I wouldn’t give a shit.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
depends on who he is.
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by David Young on Nov 9, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
probably some hipster
it would make a lot of sense really
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by nolander on Nov 9, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i meant that more
about the hipster part then the man part fyi
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No Russell even on the list anymore
and Dickson 27th. You don’t like college guys that destroy lower levels at all.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
College Hitters Who Destroy The Pioneer League Are A Dime A Dozen. Will Have To See More From Him.
Note that Leon Landry is not on this list after hitting well last year in the Pioneer League.
I really hope Songco makes it
Angeloooooo Songcooooo just has such a cool ring to hit when he hits a homerun :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Seven relief pitchers in the top 30
NIne starters in the top 30
Eight outfielders in the top 30
Two middle infielders
one catcher
Two 1st Baseman
One 3rd baseman
have to say Chris Jacobs has to be on this list. JMO
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he’s going to be our Yadier Molina, our Mike Matheny, I’m sick of the Cardinals having a monopoly on the best defensive catchers in baseball.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Good defensive catcher with a penchant for the dramatic hit
that is a formula for some serious HJ love
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry - here's ...
… the link to the FanPost.
Work intervened right in the middle of that small task to create the FanPost.
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I was considering copying the reply chain to Canuck's original comment into the FanPost
but it has gotten a bit unwieldy.
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Im surprised no one has said this yet
Hey, fuck gaslamp ball, but eric and phil could’ve pulled some shenanigans of their own to ensure Clayton’s deserved victory.
/fifthplacevoteforhalladaywhilescreamingFUCKYOURUIZ
by lnickerson88 on Nov 9, 2011 2:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Joe said it twice.
I’d rather him tie and blame some tool in San Diego than have him win and let everyone point to the hometown favor he got.
Ridiculous controversy over entirely irrelevant awards is all we’ve got for the next couple of weeks. Good for the jackass from the 619 858.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Or the 52 664
Probably outsourced the voting job to Tijuana.
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Fan post city right now
We have another person with a proposed $120 million payroll
Thanks Jason G 86!
WTF
No love for my half-assed, no-research, lots-of-assumptions-and-blanks 120-million payroll in the comments of Reg’s fanpost?
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Why I am not surprised. Shady ass Jewish Bros!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
He even got to wear padded vest!
Clifford claimed that when he refused alcohol at another event one week later, he was ordered to wear a padded vest while other members punched him in the stomach.
No padded vests back in the day, eh Joe?
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yeah
he totally deserved to be viciously assaulted and have his ankle broken for deciding he didn’t want to go through with it.
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Looks like Joe is getting the USChris treatment!
(pulls up lawn chair)
(pops popcorn)
(rubs hands together)
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Joe is just in a great mood today because he got to eat a breakfast burrito in slippers at work. IMO when Joe is in a good mood, he gets looser, and his comments get looser, and gets less serious about things. I like that side of Joe.
way more important, from a link on the side of that article
AOL TV: Kate Gosselin’s Parenting Under Fire After Son Crawls Under Minivan
News alert -Boys cannot be trusted to do the right thing
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You’re not a boy if you don’t crawl under a few cars.
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Drink a few gallons of household cleaner
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Break a few windows with baseballs.
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“waterski” on a skateboard via a rope tied to a bicycle
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
YES!
And lept said bicycle (when I was a kid we didn’t/couldn’t jump with skateboards – I predate soft wheels) off every possible thing in view.
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We used to make big jumps out of scrap 2 × 4s and plywood sheets and set them up in the park next to my house
The fast jump was a shopping cart turned on its side and a piece of 2 × 12 as the ramp
awesome
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
My wife and I have a bet about whether our son will break more windows or bones. I went with windows and am in the lead, 1-0.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
You will have a 15 – 0 lead until one day he luges down Topanga at the wrong time, at the wrong place, and in seconds it will be 15 – 38
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no luge, but we used to ride the big wheel down our hill, pedals spinning freely and power slide it at the bottom, which was fantastically fun and stupid. And box slide down the brush covered slopes in summer.
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I broke a lotta windows, yet managed to break no bones ever. Just lucky, I certainly did the things that could easily have snapped a radius, ulna, fibula or two or three.
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I done broke my brain-bone.
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I almost broke that once
By throwing up a basketball and hitting it with a bat. The recoil smashed me on the side of the head and nearly knocked me out. I never did it again
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
No idea
I kinda lost interest all of a sudden
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Con: Breaking your thumb in third grade
Con: cast to your elbow, no baseball
Pro: built-in baseball bat
Pro: girls signing your cast
If I was smarter, I’d have broken something insignificant in college just for the cast.
They won’t put a cast on your dick
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
you found that out the hard way?
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I’ve never broken a bone either. I’ve had some kick-ass sprains
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
just the one for me
playing…. nerf football of all things
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The ugly scar on the inside of your nostril?
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broke the growth plate on my right index finger as a kid, mdle finger is a full digit bigger than the index finger, wicked movement on the fastball.
dude has huge hands – fucker, I hate him a little for it
He is about an inch taller than me but has the hands of someone 5 inches taller than me
the baseball is like a tennis ball in his hand and a grapefruit in mine
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
I know, I’ve shaken his mitts a few times.
Maddz loves him for it.
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Does that mean hold the ball high in your hand, up on the fingers more?
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i always preach getting the ball as far away from your palm as possible.
But that was a Rookie of the Year joke.
As a little dude, that’s how I have to throw. I had a LF teammate tell me, after seeing me at SS, that he had never seen so much of the softball when someone threw.
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I think there is no point in trying to describe this in words.
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Same here. Needed stitches a bunch too. But no breaks.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
2 fingers – set one of the them myself – made me cry!
4 ribs – this really hurt
nose 3 times – set it myself each time!
1 ankle – that sucked.
I think that’s it
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
nose 3 times – set it myself each time!
I win the picnic bet!
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You’re Italian, one is never sure.
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No stitches either! The only sprain as a kid was my hand – my bro took a full-force kick at my gonads and I sorta jumped back and threw my hand out to block. His foot went up between my pinky and ring finger and spread ’em REAL wide.
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I used to love to jump off shit
still am tempted when I get liquored up
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
never done it
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Word of advice
If posting a photo, please also type in some subject or the comment will be deleted.
Alternatively, if you would like to hide the contents of a comment, such as a photo if you are at work, you can just click on the subject.
there needs to be a better way
sbnation really needs to provide a way to hide any comment, it really shouldn’t be that hard. It makes no sense to only have that functionality if there is a subject
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They’d get right on it but they are to busy right making sure we can’t find anything.
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I'm wondering how much time is spent developing the "sister" site
The Verge
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so that does help explain why their staff is so large
their dev staff doesn’t just work on the sports site, though you can see that it uses the same archeticture(there is a better term I just can’t think of it)
http://www.sbnation.com/about/staff
http://www.theverge.com/about-the-verge
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no prob
Also, you can add a width or height tag, in pixels with the brackets < >, like width=400 or whatever
his face was so big on my monitor I thought the dude was trying to kiss me
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Tasteless for your enjoyment
If an older woman chasing a young guy is called a cougar,
what do you call an older man chasing a young boy? A Nittany
Lion…HEY-O!!!
When’s bedtime at the Sandusky house? Right after the big
hand touches the little hand. WAKA WAKA!!!
was it bedtime? I thought it was how do you know when its midnight at Micheal Jacksons house? when the big hand touches the little hand. But maybe it is bedtime.
The bedtime joke
I first heard using Michael Jackson
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The team is a work in progress. More to come I imagine.
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D-Backs apparently aren't done
The D-Backs are still trying to re-sign free-agent second baseman Aaron Hill, and believe they can make all of the pieces fit even if shortstop Stephen Drew returns from his fractured right ankle by Opening Day, major-league sources say.
The famous photo of the Viet Cong guy being executed by pistol in South Vietnam. And a picture of a Czechoslovakian protester in 1968 self-immolating.
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Anyone see Harold and Kumar 3D christmas whatever? Im gonna see it tonight, in Immersive 3D, my 1st time.
yes
funny but not hysterical
I suggest you medicate first
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Cool
Bride of Kavula’s project made XKCD today!

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I can only hear that in the voices of the astronomy professors in that radio commercial.
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“We wanted to see what it looked like from the other direction!”
Garhhhhrh.
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That’s what you say to the copywriter as you tug hard on his anus.
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A former co-worker here
was named Chief Technologist of NASA yesterday.
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I for one lost interest in life once I learned that most stars are simply burnt out suns and decided to devote my life to baseball.
Most stars are much farther away than that. The farthest star astronomers have found is over 12 billion light years away! That means we’re seeing it as it was 12 billion years ago, and have no clue what it is like now. Has it blown up or burned out? In 12 billion years, the odds are pretty good that it has, but we have no way of knowing, and won’t be able to know what it looks like “now” until 12 billion years in the future! At that point, the question will be moot as far as you and I are concerned.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
what I take from that
shit don’t matter, but ain’t pretty all the same
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
this will all change when you can travel faster than light!
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We're all just particles man
Kinda makes you think
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
We seem to just be in the canvassing stage.
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What team? The Dodgers? We have a whole blog dedicated to them.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Okay I have a question.
Last night if you were not living on Mars and heard some news they were focused on aircraft carrier rock that passed between us and the moon. For five days I’ve heard about this rock and the number one thing they talked about was how it was going to miss the earth by 200,000 miles, yet I never heard one person comment that it was only going to miss the moon by 40,000 miles which is not a lot in space miles is it not? I kept hearing about the damage a rock this size would do to the Earth but given how is was much much much much closer to hitting the Moon, I was more interested in what would have happened if that had happened.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
F the moon.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It would not be good. Tides changing and all that.
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my marginally educated guess
the rock is not big enough to knock the moon around, just big enough to create another big crater
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
I was thinking long term. The whole point of studying this rock was to lay credence to the theory these rocks smacked into the earth delivering water and thus jump starting this whole life thing we got going. If the bugger whacked the Moon and dumped it’s water into Tycho creating Moon Lake, eventually the life that would spawn from such an effect might be a good Loogy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
As for little 2005 YU55: If it had run a collision course with the moon it would have caused a good-sized crater — about four kilometers across, according to Don Yeomans, director of NASA’s Near-Earth Object Program. That’s not nothing, but it isn’t much of anything, either.The moon would still lack an atmosphere, so that water wouldn’t last long.
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nice to know that a half assed education of 25 years ago still playing marginal dividends!
Score 1 for the CalState system
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
We dont watch the news in the hood…. Either they dont know, dont show, or dont care about rocks hitting the moon, ya know….. I just assume mankind will have a way to stop all the stuff from happening anyways, so no need to worry about it.
And today's famous quote
“I don’t believe there’s only one way. We’re not making a statement that it’s got to be somebody with a great OBP or OPS or nothing else. There still are other aspects of the game. Scouting will always be important. But you can’t be afraid to try something new, even while respecting the history and tradition of the game.”
/LA Times Publishes Picture of Tamin Behind a Laptop, Calls him Twitter Boy
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Cue the Scully story about the stat guy in Brooklyn whose name I don’t recall but all his work was thrown in the trash
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
You know if the Dodgers had fired Ned
and hired a new GM and he/she said that everyone would be going great, someone who recognizes statistical analysis as a tool for evaluation.
bingo
good news is good news, and this sounds like good news
Well done Ned
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Phil is beyond petty notions of good and evil
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Or cause and effect
Or time and space
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It’s about time, it’s about space…
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The story that will seemingly never end
From Scott Lauber:
Still no resolution on Theo Epstein compensation situation. Commissioner has given sides “a little more leeway”
I don’t know them, but sure glad they don’t live next door to me
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
At the rate he is scoring, soccer is clearly the wrong analogy.
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Damn, I have one-tenth as many kids as he has and I’m scheduled for surgery.
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Shawn Kemp has less kids than he has.
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seriously, one kid was good enough for me…. I did want more at the time just to have a boy, but now that im about half way done fuck that. I just dont have the energy for them anymore. But I can see a few, parents that have a shit load are either insane, or catholic.
half way done?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
ah – daughter must be nine!
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by David Young on Nov 9, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I was kidding again, but what I meant was she is 9, so I am legally responsible for another 9 years. But I know its forever, im just playin.
But she wanted to babysit a relative that is 2, that I ended up doing all the work for, and it brought back all the memories for me again, and its just something I cant see myself going back to. Its hard work man, being honest its hard work and I just dont have anymore energy left for them at that age.
Nah, don’t worry when she hits 13 she will stop talking to you, by the time she is 17 she will no longer be talking to your wife because the untalented tatted musical runt she loves is not properly appreciated. They will elope to Austin, and you will not hear from her except when calls to ask for money. And only then.
One day when she is 24 she will show up on your doorstep with two raggedy boys and hand them off to you to raise as she heads for Canada on the run from the CIA due to the oppressive regime which has taken over the United States.
Good time await
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Thank god I had the good sense to let my daughter be raised by really nice teachers.
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Dude, way back then did you guys have to do so much school work with your kids? Today teachers want us to do this, and that, check this, ready that. Shit who is the teacher here, me? or you? LAUSD better put me on the payroll shit.
no, we had less homework but strangely learned more
I don’t know how this works but I am convinced I am right about this
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Reading to our daughter incessantly before she went to school really paid off. She had a lot of homework, but was pretty capable of doing it with out needing tons of assistance from us.
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See how not doing homework works out for her.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
dude ofcourse we do her homework man. Well she does it, and then I check it. But all I was saying is teachers are so demaniding, wonder if they were back then too.
Had the Sex Ed teachers warned me that having kids means I gotta go through school all over again, I would of practiced safe sex forsure.
He/she will never think you are cool.
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The little tricks they have them do to learn math (carrying over) and subtraction (borrowing) drives me crazy. I just skipped ahead and taught my daughter the right way to add and subtract without drawing all the single and ten digit boxes and she grasped it right away. But then we had to work three times as hard with all the dipsy doodle stuff that is suppose to lead you up to the final product that the teacher spent leading up to math “the real way”.
…it’s so simple, so very simple, that only a child can do it!
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I think we were the
new math children, right? It seems to me it was mainly skipping long division.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I think I was post new math
I do remember always being fucked with for not showing my work. Seemed stupid to show your work if you could do it in your head and get the right answer….
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Here's the answer teacher
Prove it!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
….and you know why four plus minus-one plus ten is fourteen minus one —
— cause addition is commutative, right!
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We are ameoba
We multiply by dividing
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I believe it was trying to get kids to understand that base-10 is a social construct and that math could be done without it. New math is stupid.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Or, as the man said, base eight is just like base ten, really — if you’re missing two fingers!
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I’m 37 in hex!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
9×6=42 in base 13, for you HGTTG fans.
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Nice towel.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Who knew Jerry Tarkanian had met aliens?
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Well, whatever it is, im a firm believer that teaching should stay in the schools, not into my home. Pass that on the the board of directors, thanks!
I believe it is too but this day and age if you don’t actually do just as much or more work at home than in school your kid(s) will be average at best in school.
I most definitely was
I was doing base-5 arithmetic in grade school.
I went on to get a degree with the word “Mathematics” in it, so maybe it works?
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I teach math. I don’t play games with numbers. Many many students haven’t memorized their addition/multiplication/etc. adequately. I think the insistence that students must conceptualize is hooey.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
My problem, maybe you can help/have heard of it:
I memorized math problems and results, so much so that when I got to more advanced math that required multiple steps, it was hard r me to follow along.
The key to getting past that barrier is chunking, which is teacherese for breaking down big problems into little problems. One thing I struggle with all the time is the disconnect between doing just the easy problems because they’re very doable, and the greater context, because that makes it more difficult to assess where the lag in learning occurs. More often than not, it is borne of students freaking out that the problem has extra words or getting frustrated that the gratification isn’t instant enough, so they lose confidence in their own understanding.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Memorization is the key. And repetition
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
So… homework.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Or like I did
do it at school. I was a nerd
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Anybody else here skip a grade?
I skipped second grade. It was weird
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
In LAUSD we had the A/B system
You could start a grade in either fall or spring. (Baby boomer, shit loads of kids in the school.) I had one semester of kinder, one full year of first, one semester of second, and one semester of 3rd when they abolished the A/B system. So that fall, I either had to start 4th grade or restart 3rd. The school wanted my parents to put me in 4th grade, but the K and 2nd experience was already like skipping a grade, and I was already the smallest kid in the class so my parents (wisely as I look back on it) decide to restart me in 3rd grade, which still had me graduate HS at 17.
So, sort of.
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now that
sounds like a bizarre system
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Was it clear? If you started a grade in the spring, you finished it in the fall, unless you skipped up. It was a bit odd, I suppose.
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In my case it was all fuzzy
I’m this 8 year old kid sitting in second grade class. They yank me out, make me take a bunch of tests, then a week later I’’m in third grade. I had to make all new friends.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
this happened to me in 3rd grade
except instead of putting me in 4th grade they gave me ritalin
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I did the same thing in fourth grade in the LA school system. I was in B-4, took the tests and ended up in A-5. Then we moved to Simi when I was in B-9 and I had to decide whether to start high school or go back half a grade. I went back to the 9th grade, and Like Dave, I graduated at 17.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Yanked out of second grade
Exactly the grade it happened to me in. it was weird.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 9, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
I took a test during 4th grade; they said I should be in a more advanced program. Without us moving, I started a new school for 5th grade, in a class that was half 5th graders, half 6th graders, and I had to make new school friends, but still had the same neighborhood friends. I was in that class for both grades before graduation and heading to middle school, which was grades 7 and 8 in those days, but ERHS was one campus of 7-12 grades. The seniors were giants!
That 5th and 6th grade teacher, Miss Glassford, was probably the most influential teacher I had; she really challenged us and she didn’t take my bullshit.
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My daughter was, and still is, terrible with “times tables”. She has her mathematics degree though.
I wonder how useful that rote stuff in this day and age when every electronic gadget around has a calculator in it. Maybe understanding the concept of multiplication is really more important than memorizing the times table out to 12 × 12 = 144.
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Sh doesn't know her Gazintas?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Maybe, but if math is “too hard,” they just turn off completely. Some elements need to be automatic.
The expectation is education nowadays is that EVERY child must be prepared for higher ed upon graduating high school. Because of that, all baselines are much higher than they used to be.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
WHAAAAAT?
You can’t use the same approach to teach each and every kid. Such BLASPHEMY!
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yeah man it drives me crazy. Some of it I cant even figure out, but she is doing really good in school, so thats good.
Then you are doing something right.
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but I feel ya on that man. There will come a time when I settle down, dont drink or smoke anymore, maybe read books and go to church, and Kobe will be retired, and at that time all I’ll want is time with her, and its going to be too late. Im already working on that now so I dont hate myself too much later on.
Song I won’t karaoke. Bars are too dusty.
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I’m gonna write the companion song to that song: “I’m Goddam Busy Keeping a Roof Over Your Head and Food in Your Belly and All I Ask for Is a Little Peace and Quiet Is That Too Much to Ask.”
It’s a real toe-tapper, my song.
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I’m so weird. Sometimes I can’t sing along to Ohio without something getting in my eye. I was only 9 fucking years old when that happened.
Legend has it that David Crosby cried as they completed the take that is on the record.
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Probably because his mustache hair got in his nose and caused him to sneeze, which in turn made his eyes water.
FTFW
Probably because his mustache hair got in his nose, the heroin dust shook out and caused him to sneeze, which in turn made his eyes water.
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The point of church isn’t to do bad stuff for a while and repent because it’s all good in the end. At least it isn’t supposed to be.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I thought the point of church was -
easy HJ, easy
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Every religion has an out for bad behavior does it not?
We can do anything and confess
Humma simply has to not eat for a day, once a year
I’m sure others have there mulligans
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yom Kippur isn’t a mulligan. And mulligans aren’t the point. They’re recruiting pitches.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
They’re recruiting pitches.
I’m not sure if this is what you meant, but Yom Kippur services at several synagogues I’ve been to are exactly that — recruiting pitches. Give us money for the State of Israel or you are a Bad Jew.
I already know I’m a bad Jew, I don’t need to pay hundreds of dollars for high holy day tickets to be told that.
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Somehow I picture your fantasies involving a tall, Christina Hendrickseque woman in tight black leather, a rolled up newspaper, and her yelling “Bad Jew, bad Jew!”
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In my mind I hear
“I’m a bad jew” in Mohammed Ali’s voice
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Man, that story has been written, cast and re-cast forever. The players change but the game stays the same.
Shit, my daughter aint doin none of that. She’s already been highly trained to go for the money. I tell her everyday, remember baby, if he dont have dollars, then it dont make sense.
Mrs. Duggar
must give the worst blow jobs of all time.
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by David Young on Nov 9, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Sister Wives
Any thoughts on this show? Sleazy dude from Utah has four wives and a hoard of kids, too.
Is there an assistant coach character?
I won’t watch it otherwise.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Nov 9, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
stop fucking with us
I don’t need that in my orbit
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Baseball America has a minor league free agent tracker
Dodgers signed 29-year old catcher Salomon Manriquez to a minor league deal
He’s named for skiing equipment?
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Getting a boner right now
from Tony Jackson:
“I don’t think that it’s going to be difficult, I really don’t,‘’ Stewart said. "I think we should be able to come to something. I have talked with Ned on a few occasions. We have covered some ground, and hopefully, we will be able to put this thing to bed soon.’’
Hooray, saying all the right things!
Nice. He said the right things last week when he was on MLB Radio too, but his tone was not remotely optimistic. This sounds like there has been progress recently.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
“We have had some constructive conversations,‘’ Colletti said. "Those conversations have been a little more substantive of late.’’
Colletti cautioned against reading too much into that, saying no agreement was imminent. Clearly, though, signing Kemp to a long-term deal sometime this winter — and before Kemp becomes eligible for free agency after the 2012 season — is a high priority for the Dodgers.
And then the obligatory
after orgasm Mcrib
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
That’s why the good porn has a backing soundtrack.
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Wait
Did Marty just imply that he eats McRibs?
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 9, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
No
he didn’t
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I was shocked to think that the King of Gastronomy would eat one.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 9, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
So wrong
Getting a boner right now
from Tony Jackson:
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2011 4:06 PM PST
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by David Young on Nov 9, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
we seek to humiliate all that stand in our path to greatness
by Hollywood Joe on Nov 9, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa
A report from @rafaelrojasc that Wilson Ramos has been kidnapped in Venezuela. Obviously extremely serious if true. Looking into it.
FUCK
rafaelrojasc
#Nationals C Wilson Ramos has been kidnapped at his home in Maracay, Venezuela. Situation developing.

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