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Dodgers 2012 Minor League Countdown: 200 - 191

Welcome again to the most comprehensive analysis of the Dodgers minor league system. For the 4th straight year, I am going to provide a summary of virtually every player in the Dodgers minor league system who meets the following qualifications: (1) is within the Dodgers organization as of December 14, 2011; (2) is under 28 years old as of Opening Day 2012; and (3) is still considered a prospect by Baseball America standards, which means that pitchers must have less than 50 innings pitched (or 30 appearances) in the majors, and hitters must have less than 130 at bats in the majors. Like Baseball America, I do not take into account service time, and therefore it is possible that I have included prospects who will not technically be rookies in 2012.

As I mentioned last year, I know that writing up 200+ players seems a little excessive, especially since the majority of these players are obviously not prospects. However, I really look at this as a "get to know your Dodger minor league system". My goal is for Dodger fans to know at least a little something about all players in the Dodgers system because it makes looking at the minor league box scores more fun. There won’t just be a bunch of names, but instead players that fans have at least heard of.

That being said, the first portion of this list might be a little bit boring, especially since there seem to be more foreign players than ever this year. In fact, in some cases I'll be basing my raking solely on stats and the players' size since I have nothing else to go off of. But I still think it's worth putting together a complete list because you never know who is going to breakout with a big season. Allen Webster was #100 on my 2009 list, and now he is a top prospect.

In addition, what also makes this list fun is that this is the 4th year I've done a countdown, so you can track where each player has ranked over the past few seasons. You can see whether a player has made moved up or down my list over the years. I’ve included where each prospect played in 2011, how each was acquired by the Dodgers, their height, weight, age as of opening day 2012, and finally their 2011 combined minor league statistics. I will generally post 10 players at a time, and will be posting 1 to 2 times a week. While I'm starting my posts a little later this year, my goal is to finish the list before 2012 Spring Training starts.

This year they'll be an extra bonus since I counted up 204 eligible players for my ranking after the Dodgers released their list of spring training non-roster invitees. The "extra" players, who all played in the DSL last year with relatively limited playing time, will all be counted as #200. So without further ado here are the Mr. Irrelevants:

200A. Henry Heredia, 1B/3B (24 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 10/13/10
5’8”, 170 lbs, 20.25 years old
.197 average, .510 OPS, 0 HR’s, 9 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Signed out of the Dominican Republic during the 2010 offseason, Henry Heredia had a dreadful season in his professional debut. Playing most of the year as a 19 year old, Heredia hit just .197 and had just 4 extra base hits (all doubles) for the Dominican Dodgers. He also had a terrible 22:2 strikeout to walk ratio. On defense, Henry is listed as a 3rd baseman, yet spent most of the 2011 season at 1st base which is perplexing given his small stature. If Heredia is back next season, he’ll definitely return to the DSL.

200B. Jose Moreno, C (21 games in DSL in 2011)

Signed by Dodgers 10/26/2010
6’0”, 187 lbs, 21.75 years old
.265 average, .673 OPS, 1 HR, 8 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Jose Moreno was already 20 years old when the Dodgers signed him of the Dominican Republic, so his baseball career got off to a late start. His professional debut in 2011 didn’t really help his progress as he only played in 21 DSL games, spread evenly among the 3 month season. His overall stats for the season were relatively decent for the pitcher friendly Dominican Summer League, but he didn’t get anywhere near the experience he needs given his age. The Dodgers may keep him around for another season to help out with the catching duties, but other than that he doesn’t have much of a future.

200C. Abinaer Soriano, OF (46 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers prior to 2011 season
6’0”, 175 lbs, 20.25 years old bats right handed
.216 average, .600 OPS, 1 HR, 17 RBI’s, 5 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Signed prior to the 2011 season, Abinaer Soriano made his professional debut in the DSL and played the entire season as a 19 year old. Unfortunately, he had a pretty ugly season at the plate as he had an OPS of just .600 and an OB% of .276. His only value really came in the field, because even though his fielding% was a little low at .939, he was able to handle center field for the Dominican Dodgers for most of the season. If the Dodgers don’t release him, 2012 will surely see Soriano back in the DSL.

200D. Claudio Tejeda, SS (5 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 2/8/11
6’0”, 170 lbs, 19.25 years old, bats right handed
.167 average, .500 OPS, 0 HR’s, 1 RBI, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Tejeda signed with the Dodgers in February of 2011, but didn’t make his professional debut until the tail end of the DSL season. He only got into 5 games and managed a couple of singles, but the sample size is too small to analyze. On defense he spent all his time at shortstop, and based on his height and weight he seems to be a good size for a middle infielder. He played all of last year as an 18 year old, so he’s still quite young and will definitely return to the DSL in 2012, although this time around I’m sure he’ll get much more playing time.

200E. Geuris Alcantara, RHP (3.2 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 10/26/10
6’2”, 185 lbs, 19.75 years old
0-0, 12.27 ERA, 3.82 WHIP, 10.84 FIP, 7.36 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Alcantara had an interesting professional debut as he made two relief appearances early in the DSL season, missed almost 2 months, then started the Dodgers final game of 2011. His overall stats were pretty ugly, but it was an extremely small sample size so it’s tough to judge. Like most DSL players I don’t know anything about how hard he throws or what pitches he has, but at 6’2” he has a good pitching frame. Due to his age and limited experience he will definitely return to the DSL in 2012.

#'s 199 - 191 after the jump:

Star-divide

199. Steve Cilladi, C (12 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 33rd round
5’9”, 182 lbs, 25 years old, bats right handed
.185 average, .481 OPS, 1 HR’s, 2 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 187; Pre 2010 Rank: 193; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Steve Cilladi was basically the Loons personal catcher in 2011, only appearing on the active roster when an extra backstop was needed on the team. Whenever his services were no longer needed during the season, Great Lakes would simply make up an injury for him and put him back on the DL. In his spare time, I’m sure he helped out in the bullpen and caught side sessions. When the season had finished, Cilladi had only appeared in 12 games and managed just 5 hits, although he did crush one homer. To provide a little background on Cilladi, his dad was a former athletic trainer for the Rockies and Cubs, so I’m sure he knows something about conditioning. He played college ball in the NAIA with the Kansas Wesleyan Coyotes, and during his four seasons there Steve hit .267 with 76 hits, so he wasn’t exactly a masher in college. In addition, he wasn’t even the full time starting catcher during his Senior year. Getting back to his current status, Steve is simply another organizational catcher who is most valuable during spring training.

198. Angelo Ponte, C (1 game in AA, 2 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg, 1 game in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Non Drafted Free Agent signed by the Dodgers on 6/14/10
5’11”, 215 lbs, 25.25 years old, bats right handed
.333 average, .1.167 OPS, 0 HR’s, 0 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011: 195; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Angelo Ponte wasn’t drafted in 2010 after playing his college ball at Fordham University, but was signed by the Dodgers shortly after draft day by the Dodgers. As most people know, Fordham was the college that Vin Scully graduated from, so there are some ties between the school and the Dodgers. In his 4 years at Fordham, Ponte had a career .283 average and only hit 4 home runs, so the Dodgers didn’t bring him onboard because of his bat. They instead seem to use him as a “fill in backstop” when one of the Dodger minor league teams is in need of a catcher. Ponte only appeared in 4 games in 2011, but played for 3 different teams including the Lookouts who were short on catchers back in August. He’s a useful player for spring training when extra bodies are needed to catch all the pitchers, but besides that he doesn’t have much value as a 25 year old…although he does have some moves.

197. Jose Luis Javier, SS (16 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers prior to 2011 season
5’10”, 160 lbs, 19.25 years old, bats right handed
.235 average, .578 OPS, 0 HR’s, 5 RBI’s, 5 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Jose Luis Javier, or JLJ as I like to call him, is another Dominican born player who signed with the Dodgers before the 2011 season. Like several other young international signees, JLJ practiced with the team early in the year before making his professional debut in late July. He ended up only getting into 16 games, and while his overall stats were pretty ugly (.235 average and struck out in 32.1% of his plate appearances), he did show good speed on the basepaths. Also, while the Dodgers put him at the premium position of shortstop, he didn’t impress with his defense as he posted a .885 fielding %. At just barely 19 years old, I’m sure he’ll get a longer look in the DSL next season.

196. Keyter Collado, C (1 game in AAA, 1 games in LoA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 5/27/04
5’9”, 182 lbs, 25.75 years old, bats right handed
.333 average, .667 OPS, 0 HR’s, 0 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 174; Pre 2010 Rank: 190; Pre 2009 Rank: 154

Keyter Collado has been a classic fill in catcher for the Dodgers organization, appearing in just 21 total games over the past 3 seasons. 2011 was an especially interesting year for the minor league veteran as he played one game in AAA early in the year, then sat out a month before re-emerging in the Midwest League. In his first game with the Loons, however, Collado was involved in a nasty collision at home plate on the back end of a Great Lakes triple play, and as it turns out that ended his season on May 29th. I’m not sure what 2012 will bring, but I’m guessing he’ll at least stick around to help out in spring training.

195. Jorky Infante, 3B (32 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in 2009
6’0”, 155 lbs, 21 years old, switch hitter
.210 average, .567 OPS, 0 HR’s, 6 RBI’s, 6 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 186; Pre 2010 Rank: 167; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

2011 was Infante’s third season in the DSL, yet he showed no signs of improvement and actually regressed significantly from 2010. His 4 doubles were the only extra base hits he had all year, and he also struggled in the field with a .902 fielding percentage at 3rd base. The only highlight for the switch hitter was his continued plate disciple, as he walked almost as much as he struck out. The Dominican native is still just 21 years old, but probably won’t have much of a role with the organization in 2012 since he doesn’t appear ready for a move to a US based rookie league, and probably wouldn’t get much value out of a 4th season in the DSL.

194. Daniel Lantigua, RHP (0.2 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in 2011
6’3”, 180 lbs, 19.75 years old
0-1, 0.00 ERA, 6.00 WHIP, 7.70 FIP, 0.00 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

There really isn’t much to say about Daniel Lantigua. 2011 was his first professional season, but he only made one appearance for the Dominican Dodgers and didn’t even pitch a full inning. Lantigua’s lone appearance occurred very late in the season, so it’s possible that he was signed after the 2011 season already started. The only other thing to mention about Daniel is that at 6’3” he has a solid pitching frame, and because he’s still just 19 years old he had lots of time to build muscle. I’m sure he’ll return to the DSL in 2012.

193. David Iden, 2B (31 games in LoA, 5 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 35th round
5’9”, 160 lbs, 25 years old, bats right handed
.259 average, .655 OPS, 0 HR’s, 13 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 193; Pre 2010 Rank: 175; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

A late round pick for the Dodgers in 2009 out of Cal Lutheran University, David Iden is the type of player who just wanted a chance to play. At Cal Lutheran, the Thousand Oaks native was a career .343 hitter, and ranked in the school’s top 10 for career RBI’s (100), runs scored (121), and stolen bases (63). Unfortunately, Iden hasn’t been very impressive during his 3 years as a professional. In 2009, he was sent to the Pioneer League and struggled to produce. He was then demoted to the Arizona Rookie League in 2010 and had another lackluster campaign. I figured Iden would get released prior to the 2011 season, but he managed to stick around and again found himself in a rookie league. An injury to Christian Lara opened up a spot on the Loons, however, and an Iden spent the last two months as a backup infielder in Great Lakes. His first stint in a full season league didn’t go so well, though, as he batted just .211 and had only 4 extra base hits (all doubles) in almost 100 at bats. At 5’9” Iden is undersized, which is another thing working against him, and now with three bad seasons under his belt he’s again a candidate to be released.

192. Jesus Perez, SS/3B (2 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 10/13/10
6’1”, 180 lbs, 18.75 years old, bats right handed
.333 average, .762 OPS, 0 HR’s, 0 RBI’s, 1 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

What can I really say about a DSL player who has only played two professional games? Not much, so I’ll just stick to the basic facts. Perez was signed back in 2010, but spent most of the 2011 season practicing with the Dominican Dodgers before playing a couple of games at the end of the season. He is listed as a shortstop, but played his lone game in the field at 3rd base. He’ll be just 18 years old at the start of the 2012 season, and I expect the young infielder to get much more experience in the DSL next year. At that point, we’ll have a much better idea of what Perez can bring to the table.

191. JJ Ethel, C (12 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 49th round
6’2”, 180 lbs, 22.75 years old, bats right handed
.303 average, .894 OPS, 1 HR, 7 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Most players drafted in the 49th round don’t sign, but Jack Joseph Ethel was a college senior so it was either the Dodgers or the real world. He chose baseball, so at the very least he’ll be able to tell his kids one day that he played professional ball. In his two years at Louisville Ethel did a whole lot of nothing at the plate as he managed just two career homers and hit just .271. Here’s one of them. He had good defensive numbers, however, which is probably what got him noticed. After signing in June Ethel joined the Arizona Dodgers and went 6 for 8 with a homer and 7 RBI’s in his first two professional games, but he didn’t do much after that. At the end of the day, he probably won’t ever be more than a warm body that helps out during spring training and fills a backup catcher role.

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agreed

The work you put into this list is outstanding.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:20 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Seriously

Thank you so much for all this coverage, I don’t know how you can do it, but great job.

Also thanks to all the other writers with all of your work.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

But what about Mike White?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I was so tempted to say this at the end

“Especially Mike White :P”

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks for the praise

and I’m glad a lot of you enjoy this type of depth in regards to the minor leagues

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 14, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

you kick ass dude

thanks for your hard work!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ditto

I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base

by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 14, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the NPUT in the previous post, Brandon.

by berkowit28 on Dec 14, 2011 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

Darvish

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_yu_darvish_japan_posting_bids_mystery_121411

The Rangers and Toronto Blue Jays are the favorites for Darvish, according to a survey of six officials with teams that have shown interest . . . Other teams that executives expect to make a play for Darvish include the Washington Nationals, who one believes will place the high bid; the New York Yankees, who a source said had yet to place a bid; and the Seattle Mariners.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

What would you (and others) project his MLB FIP to be?

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

.01

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

3.7 range. There’s gonna be an adjustment period at least where has to learn to stop throwing his weaker pitches.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

No idea, but I think he’ll be good. According to some of the talking heads, he’s a somewhat non-traditional Japanese pitcher in that he’s straight drop-and-drive with little gimmickry. With the Yankees and possibly Red Sox either gun shy or playing possum [have to wonder about Epstein and the Cubs too], I think it’s a great time for some other club to make an aggressive push. I just wish we were in play. Adding a [potential] top level talent to the rotation/system would be more exciting than the thought of Mark Ellis making $5.25 million in 2013.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I would love to see the Rangers get both Darvish and Prince Fielder if only for the challenge aspect of it in the AL West. Over the next five years, which duo will be better: Fielder/Darvish or Wilson/Pujols?

I’d be hard pressed not to pick Prince/Yu in that scenario.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

THEN YOU WOULD BE WRONG.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Wake me when Darvish actually does anything in the MLB.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

before you go-go

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ok 80’s boy, we get it you like that shit.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Jeeze, you seem

Hungry Like the Wolf

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I have seen them in concert twice

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I try to respect you

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

i grew out of it

and they were both at festivals so I was not there to specifically see them.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That's awesome

I still have never been to a concert, and it blows. I want a see a show that has 3 of some bands like ReoSpeedwagon, .38 Special, Journey, Foreigner, Supertramp, etc… There seems to be one in LA like once a year, but I never go. 2012 that changes!

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

you want a time machine

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't sound too appealing

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless you are shaved clean too, it’s hard to complain, isn’t it?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we please get back to this one?

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Too much Chatsworth.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

(Shhhhh! The time machine is in his stocking!)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

How can a man/boy of 22 have never been to one concert in Los Angeles?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Because taking a girl to a concert might lead to getting laid.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

OUCH

Dave, you are the nice one. Let me remind you, you are the nice one

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s tired of being the glue guy, he wants his freedom.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Dave’s tired of being in the friend’s zone

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of my friends like new music

I, for the most part, do not. Though I would love to go to a Blink 182 concert or Fall Out Boy. Of course I missed the concert where they toured together last year, figures.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

TMI
Though I would love to go to a Blink 182 concert or Fall Out Boy

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Judge all you want

Their music is great to me.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, Blink 182 stretches the term “new music.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as bands go

There are few that I really like that are still together, and Blink 182 and Fall Out Boy fit that bill. You may be right though.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The Rolling Stones are still together.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I think in terms of stretching, you're doing it right now

Blink 182 at was at least new within the last 10-14 years, not the last 153 years :P

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course I am

I’m saying “still together” is a strange criteria for “new.”

Blink formed ~20 years ago and hit it big ~15 years ago.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Considering my favorite bands are from the 60s, 70s, and 80s

Blink 182 is something I consider new.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I like more classic rock myself

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

That's because you're my (evil) clone

:)

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

you're the clone

And I’ve been to a few concerts. They are fun if you actually want to see the band performing

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 11:16 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

At least i'm the good one :P

I’m not so much into the performance aspect, but I really want to go for the environment of the concert and the atmosphere.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

then just go to anything

look around for cheap local concerts

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess I should have also said

For bands I like. I’ll have no fun unless I can sing along :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

the atmosphere is great

When they sing that one(or more) song(s) that everyone knows and they sing along, it’s a lot of fun

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

its fun to flail around when

they play their heavier stuff that they almost never play anymore, but bust out every once in awhile as a treat.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I listen to very little contemporary stuff myself, and even that is drastically reduced by the dissolution of Barenaked Ladies. Without Steve Page, there is no BNL, regardless of what the album says.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

you need a music intervention

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t those guys touring County Fairs by now?

Puppet Show and REO Speedwagon.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Fairly certain I heard that Reo Speedwagon and .38 special

were playing the Ventura County fair a couple years ago.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Basically you just want to see a concert of bands currently on the Indian Casino tour.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

At this point I don’t care where I see them, i’d just like to see them.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re still ahead of Gerardo and 3/5ths of Boston.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

The worst is the old Motown and doowop groups that have one old guy and four young guys — and the old guy wasn’t even a part of the original group.

They just use the name.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

This happens a lot when the trademark for the name is owned by the producer or some such person.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Half the states in the country have laws against it.

Here’s an article about it in New Mexico (the bill never passed, that I know of) from last year.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Had no idea Indian Casino tours were that shady.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

So many of these groups are half band / half cover band. Foreigner and Journey are touring without the lead singer that made them famous. At least Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) and Rodger Hodgson (Supertramp) tour under their own names with a “of [band name]” mentioned.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Ray Davies [of the Kinks] too.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Also Creedence Clearwater Revisited – original bassist and drummer + other dudes, but no Fogerty.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Axel Rose

and Guns N Roses?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 10:56 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

That said, a few years ago we went to enjoyable show of The Doobie Brothers and Chicago at Universal. The Doobies had a number of long-time members in it; for Chicago Terry Kath and Peter Cetera’s testosterone level are both dead, so the members from the heyday were limited to keyboard/vocal and horn section.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The original lineup of Black Sabbath is going to record a new album and tour.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

It depends on the band

many bands have always had a revolving door membership.

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

a few weeks ago I saw a private concert of Styx – god they are old

and Sammy Haggar with Michael Anthony

I am fairly convinced that Sammy Haggar is still Sammy Haggar – everyone else is up for debate

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Montrose!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Saw them at the US festival and they sucked.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

they were awful the second time i saw them.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked the song “Girls on Film” when it came out. I like the beginning of the video for their James Bond song when the lead singer says, “The name is Bon, Simon LeBon.” Outside of that….


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take a “swag”. WAR the next five years. And I don’t feel real comfortable with that Darvish number.

Pujols: 25
Wilson: 16
Total: 41
-————————-
Fielder: 18
Darvish: 18
Total: 36

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

prince being a 3-3.5 WAR player would make me sad

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

2006, 2007, 2008 and 2010 were sad years.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

I’d guess at least 20 WAR for 5 seasons, if not closer to 25.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

So his next 5 years are going to be better then his previous five years?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

He is in his prime now!

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

USDA

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

What Nolander said

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't really believe that he is suddenly going to put up 5 war a year

when he couldn’t do it before. Best case for him I think is 20 war over 5 years

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Honest Question:
What big ticket Free Agent in the last 20 years earned more WAR over a five year period after signing the FA contract then they did the previous five years?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

not Mo Vaughn

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Using Baseball-Reference

A-Rod 1996-2000: 37.8
A-Rod 2001-2005: 38.5

Bonds 1988-1992: 41.9
Bonds 1993-1997: 43.9

Vlad 1999-2003: 24.0
Vlad 2004-2007: 24.4

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

A-Rod is the only one that comes to mind.

Vlad maybe?

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Vlad was kind of sorry by the end, I’d be surprised if he was one.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He only really had one bad year

and that was his last one

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

21.3 over his first 5 years with the Angels

Though it started trailing off

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Vlad was at 24 in his last five with Montreal and 24.5 with the Angels.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm guessing thats rWar(o-war?)

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I was looking at fangraphs

fucking astroturf

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m using B-Ref.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

By the skinny skin skin.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

nope

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Randy Johnson almost certainly.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Same with Schilling.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Was he ever a free agent?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope. Did Sheffield get signed by the Marlins as a free agent?

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Right. Maddux must qualify.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Surprising one: Carlos Beltran.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Surprised Manny (Sox) wasn’t. He was unreal in 1999.

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by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, good one

Maddux with Cubs: 25.9
Maddux with Braves: 36.4

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Just beats my 20 year criteria

Though I should have qualified pitchers out of the debate.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The previous 5 years for Fielder

has him at 22 fWAR. Why would it be so hard to match or eclipse that?

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

its incredibly hard

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

If he was 32 I might agree

But at 28 I don’t think so.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Because his glove hurts him to the point where if he doesn’t OPS in the high .900s he’s not gonna reach 4 WAR.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s had 3 5+ win seasons, so even if his bat suffers a little bit he could still make 20+ by having a monster year or two with the bat, which he could definitely do.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

And I'm not sure

Teixeira is at 12.6 for his last 3 years, so he’s got a really good shot.

Lowe had 15.5 fWAR over 4 years with the Dodgers, on pace for close to that.

CC Sabathia is just about to 20 and it’s been 3 years.

Beltran averaged close to 4.5 WAR over the life of his Mets contract. His 2010 had only 64 games, which likely cost him averaging 5 or so over it.

I’m looking up some others still

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

3.6 is what I averaged him at. Defense hurts.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

i honestly assumed he was consistently a 5+ player with that offense

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Prince will change the pitcher’s name to U Darvish.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you believe we have the 4th highest paid starting 2B in the division at the moment? Hudson and Hill are guaranteed more over their two-year contracts and Freddy Sanchez’s deal is 1/$6M.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

If Colorado ends up playing Cuddlyer at 2B for any period of time, then we may have the cheapest one.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a huge fan of the ellis signing

but I continue to contend that we didn’t really overpay for him considering what other guys got. We could have probably waited it out and gotten someone just as good for less though.

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

How about in 2013:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

He looked pretty impressive in the WBC. Considering he came into the NPB with Bryce Harperish hype and has lived up to it, I’d love to see what he can do at the MLB level.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Alex Santana the youngest player in our system?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 8:18 AM PST reply actions  

Youngest non-Dominican league guy at least.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

right youngest non-dominican and youngest overall position player

We have 3 Dominican pitchers who are still 17 years old (Jonathan Martinez, Edinson Bock, and Miguel Sulbaran)

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 14, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

gotta love 18 year old 3B top prospects. I think of all the prospects in our system, he’s the one I hope works out the most.

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

17 year old Garcia kicked his ass in the same league two years ago.
Santana – 64 K’s / 205 PA, .636 OPS
Garcia – 37 K’s / 154 PA, .862 OPS

If Santana can’t make contact in the rookie of rookie leagues, how is he going to make contact when he hits the MWL?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

i just said i hope he works out, i have no presumptions that i’ll know who he is in three years

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet, Further cementing the decision to go to OD in SD on thursday 4/5 is that the following day, April 6th, is good friday, which is a 1/2 day paid holiday at my company…. I now realize why is called Good Friday, because it would have to be a full day paid holiday to be a Great Friday.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:22 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Heh

I didn’t know there were still companies that paid for any part of Good Friday off. I guess the NYSE still closes early that day.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe

my office closes half day on Good Friday

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

dam, you are still working?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It's tough

to find a new job when you’re 85

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

And canned dog food ain’t as cheap as it used to be.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

nor as good

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Most of the movie studios’ guilds have negotiated Good Friday as a paid holiday. As a result, several studios are closed that day.

In my time, Disney was open (for non-guild members, of course), but Paramount and Sony were both closed (holiday for all). No idea if Disney has changed or not; this was many years ago already.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I just want to know how you feel about fat cousin jokes.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

All I know is that when Humma got married, there was a crush to hoist his chair

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The flower girls killed it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’ll recall, I’m the one who makes Jewish tattoo jokes. Fat cousin jokes don’t even register on my scale.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but the fat cousins do!


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Four extra #200 prospects!

It’s like the TBLA prospect list outtakes, bonus cuts, or hidden tracks! Worth it for the names Abinaer and Geuris alone.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

unrated version

Too Outrageous for theaters!

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:45 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

An .885 fielding percentage is obscene.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I love that Brandon “likes to call” our #197 prospect by a nickname. That’s hardcore dedication.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't wait for the bloopers!

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Brandon

As always, your work on this list is very appreciated.

Time for the Get No Work Done in the Morning a Couple Times a Week part of the off season.

by MammothDodger on Dec 14, 2011 8:43 AM PST reply actions  

Our #196 prospect batted .333 and our #194 posted a 0.00 ERA. Hell yeah, we got this.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

HaHaHa!

Moonwalking on a gym floor in his sock feet!


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Post winter meetings trade
Source: Lowrie, Weiland from #RedSox to #Astros for Melancon.

from Rosenthal

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

Finally a good trade for the ’Stros

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh. Trade depends on if Lowrie can stay healthy/be good for any extended period of time and I can see the Sox not caring about finding out. Solid trade.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Keep in mind Lowrie will be 28 in 2012 and is now arb eligible.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I had no idea he had that much service time.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Most of it on the DL, but he’s basically been on the 25 man since 2008.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

A former UCLA basketball player with that name pronounced it meh-LAHN-sun. How does this ex-Astro pronounce it?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe that is correct

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I know similarity scores are kinda BS

except over fairly long careers but I found this funny on Mark Melancon’s B-R page:

Similar Pitchers through [age] 26
1. Ramon Troncoso (986)


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers are everywhere!

from Jed Lowrie’s B-R page:

Similar Batters through [age] 27
1. Mark Ellis (967)


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Similarity scores are fun and interesting if done right.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I find them interesting enough to have written a story around them once. And a brief followup as well.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Matt Kemp's

current similarity scores from B-R:

Similar Batters through 26
1. Carlos Beltran (960)
2. Andre Dawson (940) *
3. Jim Ray Hart (940)
4. Jack Clark (939)
5. Grady Sizemore (937)
6. Bobby Bonds (936)
7. Reggie Smith (935)
8. Harold Baines (934)
9. Shawn Green (931)
10. Gus Bell (927)
B-R doesn’t incorporate the positional adjustment for CF that Bill James has in his formula, so mentally tick up the true CFs in that list a bit, maybe 20 to 30 points? That should make the top 4 Beltran, Dawson, Sizemore and Bonds the Elder.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

What were they last year:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Beltran
Dawson
Smith
Ellis Burks
Sixto Lexcano!
Ellis Valentine
Sam Chapman
Bonds
Baines
Vernon Wells

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

name me a white guy like him too ;)

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The old Sam Chapman defense. I’ve seen it a hundred times . . .

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Better or worse than the Twinkie defense?

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The greatest and most appalling defense ever that did not involve insanity?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha, good call, I’m so fucking stupid I had no idea this was a drug deal.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Guerrero always sucked at defense.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Toronto Shawn Green.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice that Ellis Valentine has fallen off the list.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

This two Ellis coincidence means something. I think it’s our year!

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always thought Winfield and Dawson were the best comps for him (at least physically/skills). Seems he added a pinch of Dave Parker this year.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

name me a white guy like him too

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Mickey Mantle.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell

Jackie Jensen

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Braun.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

The actual headline of an article by a "news organization"

Matt Kemp on Ryan Braun: ‘A good dude, that’s my homie’ (Yahoo! Sports)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 8:51 AM PST reply actions  

Ryan Braun is also my homie

member of the tribe and all…

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he just used the PEDs so he could help lift his fat cousin on the chairs at his wedding?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

If you're not Jewish

dead to me.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

yawn

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

oh come on now

he’s allowed to make fun of jewish people now?!?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

For the record, I thought his joke was kinda funny...

{ducks}
{banishes self from tribe}

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

uh oh

New topic same problems from the other day ;)

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

If I wasn’t Jewish, I wouldn’t be allowed to make that joke, but since I am, it’s ok?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Implying that Jewish people have fat cousins

is not so nice :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

we do have fat cousins! at least I do. I mean, who doesn't, whatever your background...

plus I think the joke needed a chubby character to explain why he needed to make himself extra strong to carry the chair, and… meh, the more I explain it the less funny the joke is, but also didn’t offend me much.

mazel tov to us all.

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I have fat cousins....

but I don’t think thats a pre-req for being Jewish is all :-)

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by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I have any fat cousins. {mental inventory}. Nope, not a one. My one brother needs to drop 30-35 pounds though, so I guess my cousins have a fat cousin.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a fat cousin

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

stick him in the chair

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than

this cousin:


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a stereotype?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

not in my book

I dated Jewish girls and their cousins, all were delightful creatures

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure how my comment was even borderline offensive. Also I did say his wedding, so there’s that.

FWIW, I have something like 47 first cousins and I’m probably the heaviest one, and I’m not THAT fat.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you. If it were aimed at any demographic, it was “cousins,” which would seem to be fair game.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not Jewish specific, but if you don’t have fat cousins, you are the fat cousin.

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Really

when you get to a Jewish wedding, if you can’t spot the fat cousin in ten minutes, it’s you

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

larry david pokes fun at the jews all the time

still bugs the heck outta me.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Larry David is also a tribe member, is he not?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I dont even get the joke at all… Everyone has fat cousins, so how does it single out jews?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I take you have never been to a Jewish wedding?

You should go sometime, best weddings ever.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

This is really true.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

They definitely rule, I'm proud to say

Non stop dancing and partying, and eating – what could be better!

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

My first Jewish wedding I was about 22-23 and the bride was a client of my wife’s. Her fiance was a huge X fan so they had a X cover band do the wedding. It was quite a wedding.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope, X

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

lol I was kidding

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Exene Cervenka was kinda hot, but she did not age well. I can’t imagine why.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey is that guitar player the skinny Joe McDonnell?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Lucky for minx

he gets to go to mine… as an vendoer :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Ive never been to a Jewish wedding no…. But my bro has alot of Jewish friends from Granada High School, not one of them is fat…at all…. guess I’ll ask them if they have fat cousins though.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll let the tribe explain, but part of the ceremony involves chairs, relatives, heavy lifting.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

oh, so it was the lifting on the chair that was the key to knowing it was a jewish joke, I see.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Or a Sunday in the Gurnee household amirite? ;)

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

there are two types of jewish people

the type a up their own ass anorexics, and the people that enjoy life and food. from what I have grown up with, definitely the former.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

stereotypes are wrong

I’m offended

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

point taken...

and noted, and agree

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

?
The overwhelming majority of Jews I know fit neither of those two categories. Yours was a very odd statement to make given your offense at my earlier remark.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

deep down

everyone but me is a little racist

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

too good

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

They lift people up in chairs

for some reason as a celebration.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

its TRADITION!

TRADITION.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

So is losing in Chicago

:P

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok clarification time.

I took offense to the fact that there would automatically be a fat jewish cousin at a wedding. I just feel that all stereotypes based on religion, ethnicity or culture is just bad and wrong. I have fat cousins and fat family members. I am sure we all do. But, a Jewish wedding was specifically referenced. In a day in age when swastikas are still painted on streets in the SFV and Los Angeles no less, I don’t feel its the time to make out dated and blatantly false stereotypes of Jews, or any other race, religion, culture, etc.

/rant over.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I just need to really not saying anything, but I know I can’t not, lol. That may have been one the most harmless jokes I’ve ever seen, let’s all relax and holster those 6 shooters.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Chances are every one of us has a fat cousin. I do. Calm down.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

calm

maybe its my neurotic jewishness coming out in fear of becoming the fat cousin.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

tl;dr

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn’t a Jewish joke, it was a fat cousin joke that referenced Braun’s Judiasm.

It would be like if he made a joke about someone being too fat to do La Marcha at a Mexican wedding.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

moving on..... much more important things to discuss

like Mike MacDougal

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

and his impending two-year contract.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we should have an informal poll

Guess the breakdown of MacDougal’s two year deal.

My guess is $1.25 million in 2012, $2.5 million in 2013.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That JJ Ethel HR

Three-run PH job against Notre Dame. Eric, Julio, Chris et al., are pleased.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 8:53 AM PST reply actions  

That’s racist!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

So................

anyone heard the rumor that McCourt is trying to weasel his way back into owning the Dodgers going forward. I didn’t hear it, but supposedly Rogan said something about that last night on his show.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

I’ll defer to BH, et al on this, but my initial reaction is [jerk off motion]

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

MSTI wrote a piece on it. I wouldn’t like Frank if he did that, but by God I’d have to respect him.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I would be both appalled and awestruck

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Me too

thunderstruck even.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d do a slow clap

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the part I focused in on
And that’s the big, big sticking point in all this is. McCourt has that agreement with Major League Baseball, and another with his ex-wife. By April 30, he has to both sell the team and pay Jamie about $130 million

Conspiracy theories can be fun, but I’m thinking this is one contract that Judge Gross may let stand.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Still a worthwhile read for anyone who has any interest in the on – going ownership saga. I think MSTI does a great job in letting us know what is being talked about.
http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2011/12/14/conspiracy-theory-wednesday-will-we-ever-truly-be-rid-of-frank-mccourt/

Why hasn’t anyone seen the “book” by December 14th?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, good read.

Because Frank runs a shitshow organization? Actually, I have to assume Blackstone is a company that has it together so it is puzzling I suppose.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

If you are going to end up owning the team:
1. Sign the teams favorite player to long deal
2. Keep payroll as low as you can in 2012 while still fielding what his GM would consider a competitive team so season ticket sales don’t disappear.
3. Backload everything into 2013 for when the TV deal kicks in
4. Do not spend any money on long term free agents since they won’t take nothing in 2012.
5. Learn the manical laugh

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

The TV deal would kick in in 2014

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t you expect that if Fox wins, the part of that win for the Dodgers is a brand new contract tearing up the existing one and making 2013 part of the new deal? That is certainly how I would be negotiating the deal.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

That is the point of the conspiracy:)

Of which I give 3% credence too, but still interesting enough on day when we are talking about the 200-190 best prospects in the Dodger system.

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

RE: The book. No big deal, the delay of a week or so when there is this much information is not surprising. Also, I would guess waiting to hear what would happen with media rights has an effect on it.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Newhan reported it being late on Dec 2nd. It is now Dec 14th, so isn’t that like three weeks overdue not one?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess so, I didn’t know the exact timetable. Either way, it could be due to the recent media decision. Or maybe Frank is just busy making up a bunch of financial statements because he was doing something illegal with his taxes or maybe this conspiracy theory has legs or maybe the printers were out of town or maybe…

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought I read something somewhere about the books going out in January, but maybe that’s when the bids or registration begins.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

If McCourt does an open bidding

it would be real tough for Selig to reject the tv deal that he ends up choosing wouldn’t it? I never did understand why Frank decided to give in and sell before the TV auction was settled.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

what is thy bidding, my master

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

i never stopped believing in Frank…

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Ponte

Also pitched maybe 1/3 of an inning or something and picked up a W.

Santana is Dominican… just Dominican American…

by w0nderbrad on Dec 14, 2011 9:11 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

that is true for Ponte

I remember thinking they had converted him to a pitcher when I saw that, but turned out the Arizona Dodgers had just run out of pitchers that day. and for Santana, that is a good point. by non-dominican i mean not playing in the DSL, not their actual race. In fact, the three 17 year old pitchers i mentioned above actually aren’t dominican either…they are all from Venezuela

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 14, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

fantasy heads unite

pick two
Lynch
Mendenhall
Benson
Blount

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

pick 3

Vince Jax
Colston
Antonio Brown
Santana Moss

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

i was dumb and sat Colston last week

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess I pick Anna Benson over Jane Lynch, not sure who the others are. Now if it were Emily Blunt….


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Jane Lynch would pick Anna Benson over you

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

This season made me hate LeGarrette Blount so he’s out.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Please post the rest of your roster and the league standings and draft results.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

don’t tempt me

don’t you tempt me

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Trade all of them for Foster

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

lynch has the most yards in the NFL over the last 5 weeks

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah – he is the easy one

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Never play RBs against Frisco (Mendenhall). So that means Lynch & Benson.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

But he was playing your Texans. Rams are a much easier matchup.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

YEAH BOI

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never been a Lynch fan. Twin Peaks was not my thing, but he was interesting.
Mendenhall is a glacier. I can’t see how that would make for a good RB.
Benson was funny. Robert Guillaume is an underrated actor.
Corie Blount sucked.

So I’d have to go with Lynch and Benson.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Twin Peaks may simultaneously be the best and worst TV show ever. The beginning was brilliantly executed, but by the end they had completely lost their way. A very worth experiment however, esp for the era.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus

doughnuts!


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Go Jorky Go!

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

Its amazing that THIS is the week they decide to put Cincy on tv

now that they are playing the horrible horrible rams

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

yeah it's partially a schedule quirk + my location but fact that I'm getting that game here

but the Pats Broncos game is not on (later) is rather lame. The morning CBS games are all pretty lousy though.

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Jets Eagles seems like the obvious choice

but I’m guessing they feel they have oversaturated those two teams or something.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

the Pats Broncos game is the national game, the won that NBC wanted to flex but they lost that fight

anyway that and Jets Eagles are afternoon games but because of territorial rights issues, I guess I’m in both Niners and Raiders territory and the latter’s game is the sole game on here in the afternoon. I think that territory exclusivity stuff is nonsense but it’s pro sports for ya.

So off to a bar I go.

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I dont get why Fox is showing NYG-Wash at 10 am instead of Raiders-Lions at 1pm?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

i called fox and said they dont have to show it this week

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

no shit…. Im just saying I would think showing a Raiders vs Lions game would be better for this market, ratings wise. But who knows, maybe there are more NYG and Redskin fans here then I think. Not sure both combined would outnumber Raider fans though.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

normally i would care

but i bought a ticket to the game instead

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, I just heard on Colin Cowherd that Derek Jeter leaves autographed baseballs for his one night stands haha

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

oh, was that yesterday? Ive been so glued to NBA news and rumors that everything else comes delayed for me.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

tripon'd

and we need a link

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

never stop trolling nolander :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

all he gave me was cab fare and starbucks... damn.

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by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The Chris Paul story will never end

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

It will end up with them not moving him because they feel they aren’t getting enough back.

He walks in FA and the team is fucked for 10 years.

by keithc13 on Dec 14, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I dont know how they are fucked for 10 years if they suck starting this season, get lottery picks, and draft smart, wouldnt take 10 years to be good.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

the equivalent of SNL's classic "Buckwheat's Been Shot" bit?

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by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Chris Paul to the Lakers is still Francisco Franco.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish it would Phil, I cant leave a computer for more then 5 mins since last thursday. Just do it already NBA, fuck it, trade him, or announce he isnt being dealt period, but either way, do IT!!!

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Its time to trade him or STFU

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

you know you guys have no one to blame but yourselves

ESPN and everyone else wouldn’t be tripping over each other trying to get the “scoop” if you guys didn’t want to hear it. If there was no market for rumors they would just announce the trade when it was completed. Its not like the Lakers are going to the public and saying, hey, we just offered x for y!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay – we suck for wanting to hear information that directly effects the future of our favorite team for the next five years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

hah

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

No not at all

but you can’t get all worked up about the information, and then expect people to stop reporting on it. Either you do or don’t want to hear it, and you do, so don’t complain when they report it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not complaining about hearing rumors. I’m saying Stern needs shit or get off the pot. Stop bullshitting. Games start in 11 days.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, Im not complaining about hearing anything, I just wish NBA and Orlando would make a decision already. Season starts in a little over a week now. Get it done now, or dont and say were not moving our guy.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

they should just cancel more games

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh shaddup a you face

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 10:16 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

This game that is going on it crazy too. News breaks last night that Lakers are back in on Paul. Lakers dont leak info, so seemed like a ploy by NBA to get Clippers to up offer, or meet demands. But then it was said Lakers probably going to go after Paul, and just stick with Bynum/Kobe?Paul as the core and forget about Howard… Then rigth after it comes out that a Nets-Magic possible 4 way deal for Howard was gaining momentum. Tired of mind games, please do it already so we can all move on.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

A core of Bynum/Kobe/Paul would be quite awesome but how could the Lakers possibly manage that and keep Bynum?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Rumors now are it could be just Pau for Paul, for a few reasons. Hornets now feel even if they resign Landry they are super thin unfront. Also Gasol has 3 years still on contract, so they could trade him later….Hornets could flip Gasol for what they want at a later time, with 3 years left on contract, no rush. But seems NBA currently is still waiting on Clippers to budge. WHo knows what is real anymore.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you guys deal Bynum AND Gasol for Howard and Turkeylu? I thought that was too much, but everyone ESPN has on radio says no question they would do it….

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell no

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 10:13 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

My idea was if we did do that, add the 8.9 exception, and get Nelson…. So Bynum, Gasol, whatever draft picks, and 8.9 exception for Howard, Turkey, and Nelson.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Poor Chris

His heart can only take so much :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

imagine how he was during MANNYWATCH 2009 – Los Angeles Held Hostage

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

ha yeah that was pretty intense as well..

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Reg - Your site got a mention

in the comments of Sickels’ Red Sox top prospects.

Also, reading Red Sox fans defending their prospects getting a B- vs. C+ is hilarious.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

Now I just need someone to actually click it :)

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoever asked for good songs from 2011

I got three for now:

Zoo Kid – Out Getting Ribs

Thee Oh Sees – Robber Barons

And the great M83 with Midnight City

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

oh I just discovered M83

so good but it sounds very similar to Bon Iver, my true love.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Big fan of Skinny Love? :)

I haven’t listened to the new M83 album yet, just this single, but I do love their first album and Saturdays = Youth

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually dont like Skinny Love

my favs are Perth, Beth/Rest, and Hinnom, TX

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

saw a truck on my way to work with "II Down" written on it

Your grandpa drives a nice truck 4down :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

It's funny you say that

One day you might see license plates that say “1stdown”, “2nddown”, “iiidown”, and “4thdown” just driving around. People think we’re huge football fans :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Welp, I just won $20 again. This is getting absurd.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

I’d invest in a Powerball ticket.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

just think, that translates into about 4 meals for you

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It’ll all even out.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Did that $20 win

cost $50?

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what a $100 winner looks like

(the X pattern in the upper left card)


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Will anybody get traded?

Stand down New Jersey, per Adrian Wojnarowski:

Orlando has ended trade talks for Dwight Howard, league sources tell Y! Sports.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

Of course through purple and gold tinted glasses, I read that as “we don’t like this package from NJ/Portland; we’ll just wait for the Lakers” :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

yup

:)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Portland in the deal was going to end up with four first round picks, per Sam Amick of SI.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

So many opportunities to pass on superstars!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ROFL

Sam Bowie or Michael Jordan…Bowie or Jordan…let’s take Bowie! He went to college for five years but only played in three because he broke his leg twice!
Greg Oden or Kevin Durant…Oden or Durant….let’s take Oden!

by The Dude Abides on Dec 14, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Intrigue?

JennBrownESPN: Chris Paul has been excused from participating in Hornets Media Day today

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

Dun Dun Dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

this is like voting in a new pope

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s also starring on that CBS sitcom with Rob Schneider, which means that Cheech is dead to me.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

neither

Rob Schneider is…….A Carrot

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 11:31 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

See, Mexicans ARE like everyone else in America — they hate Rob Schneider too!

Heh

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 11:33 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Odds of Rob Schnieder says something like “well I’m gonna occupy this couch” in the first season: 99.99999999999%

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

So based on the life of delias man?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

The Pope’s not here, man.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Probably scared he’s gonna hang dong because he don’t give a fuck.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

well they need some kinda photo of him for the press guide.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t need it if he’s about to be traded.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

if he’s aboutalready to be traded.

this trade has been done for weeks and all this noise is to get the NBA much attention leading up to xmas games

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a laker fan

and the NBA is my 4th or 5th favorite sport

all that said, if the Clippers got Paul, I would probably watch every game my wife would allow me to

I love and miss watching good point guard play – Paul is right up there with the best that have ever played

just get him on my local cable please Mr. Stern

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

I have watched

NFL at HJ’s home (Steelers playoff game, it is wise to be very quiet and compliment the food when the Steelers are playing).
NCAA Football both at the game and at his home.
MLB – Dodger Stadium
NBA – Staples
World Cup Soccer – Restaurant/Bar

My hunch is that the order is MLB, NFL, College Football, Soccer/NBA

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

close – world cup is only once every 4 years so that really doesn’t count – though I would definitively prefer an Italian (or ever American) copa to a Laker NBA championship

You left out college hoops – which is tied with college football – but both above the NBA

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I thought about college hoops

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have a favorite Italian soccer club? Roma? Milan? Juventus?

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve flirted with a few, but too busy these days to fall in love

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

used to hang out in a coffee shop in North Beach that was hard and fast for AS Roma. I worked in the French Bakery across the street, and was told that when Italy beat France in the World Cup, all the patrons in the coffee shop in the traditionally Italian neighborhood came outside waving Italian flags and taunting the people in the French Bakery

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone was afraid that the Italian supporters were gonna start smashing windows, but they were real peaceful. Just shut down traffic to have an impromptu parade with a giant Italian flag, then left it leaning against the French Bakery.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds about right

the countries have a long and impassioned rivalry over land, food, language, and football. Italians were ecstatic they finally won in PKs. It was a memorable time.

Also, my club is AS Roma, so yeah, fuck Lazio and their fans.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s been a good last fifteen years for Romance countries, and Brazil. But it’s always good for Brazil.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless you’re Terry Gilliam.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a state of mind.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

James McDonald, now on Twitter. @JamesZ53

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

Can he cry in less than 145 characters?

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

/Walks off mound, screams F-word into glove

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 14, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

Cory said he’d be down for this weekend. Let me know what the plan is.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

what did you say about this weekend?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

His friend is presumably agreeing to catch the two of us as we lock horns

With 4down shagging in the outfield.

This weekend’s the best time for me

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 14, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

i have work saturday from noon until i finish (i’m hoping 2), and am busy Sunday from like 10-1, can we work around that? have a field in mind?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, the time’s up to you. I’m free the whole day. Well, we could try several places. Depends on if you require a mound or if you just prefer one, because i know a couple of parks in pasadena that are always open around then but they’re only softball fields.

Eaton Blanche Park, Jefferson Park, and Victory park come to mind. Of them, only victory has baseball fields, but the other two have softball fields.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 14, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

mound would be preferable

by a long shot. I will throw you knuckleballs if we play on a softball field, I’m not gonna hurt myself pitching on flat ground

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha. Refuses to put self in position for injury because he still likes playing and has an injury history.

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, no catching for me

My knees are shot.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

if I’m pitching and taylor is hitting, you won’t even need gear. Not a chance he makes contact.

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

if Grind media is not a porn production house then there is no truth in naming

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

it could be a David Eckstein-backed company.

by OB12 on Dec 14, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It could be a Sausage propaganda publisher

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see nothin’ wrong with that.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

everyone at my work is dancing because allegedly one of them heard that manny-floyd is almost a done deal. i refuse to buy into the hype.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

Like either Chris Paul or Dwight Howard to LA, I will believe it when I see it.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Magic just announced all trade talks for Howard are off…. They will start season with Howard….

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll believe it when I believe it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll see it when you believe it

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

haha shit, what can we believe anymore?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

That the children are our future.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I think about it every night and day.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman’s back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

no link :P

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

things that are widely known

don’t need citations

/academia

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Movies made before his time might need citations. Heck for most of you 1988 was simply piss, shit, and cry time.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

same with Major League, but that’s also considered common ground

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

All I know is that if USC Chris had made this quote, 5 people would have asked for a link and proper citation.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t need no stinkin badges

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The complaining arises when people quote recent news articles without link and/or attribution. Not old movie quotes.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

the difference between Jon Weisman coming in and saying why didn’t you quote me, and quoting a popular movie

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Old Movie Quote – I thought it was something HJ said yesterday

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

HJ was offered the Crash Davis role but turned it down.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

am I to be flattered or insulted Dave?

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t always act, but when I do, I prefer Scorsese.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, if those words had not been from a movie I could easily see HJ making that comment. In fact HJ is Bull Durham if he never made the minor leagues.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, to say you could have played Crash Davis is a compliment. Be convincing as a ballplayer, good looking enough to fit the part, be convincing delivering great lines like that – compliment indeed.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

good looking enough to fit the part

sometimes you go to far:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t let facts get in the way of the narrative!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Leg’s Law

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

wow – I need to hang out here more often

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

/HALywood Joe

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

My mind is going…. I can feel it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I call bullshit

no baseball player has ever read a Susan Sontag novel

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

might be true

I have read a fair amount of self-indulgent, overrated crap, but I have never read a Sontag novel

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

a lot of time to kill on minor league buses

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The backlash against Chris and the backlash against people who call out Chris yet don’t call out others is equally as annoying. Can we just move on from this stage?

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

No, we were having fun, but seriousness intervened.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew Ramirez was trying to get reinstated, but I thought Cliff was moving on with the radio-hosting gig. Harumph.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

crazy, where did they hear that? that would be great

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

some filipino connection. they all know bu boy allegedly.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes it feels like this entire basketball offseason

has been concocted to troll laker fans. Feels good man.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

Are you even a basketball fan?

Or are you the type of person who hates Yankee fans when you don’t like baseball?

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Baseball fanhood is not a requirement for hating Yankees fans. Humanity is.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

No he isnt a bball fan, something about the culture or some shit…. Yeah, he is a trouble maker, one of those, I dont really care, but I root for anyone that plays against Lakers, or USC.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You aren't alloyed to dislike annoying people

because you don’t like the same things as them?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

My take is if you dont care, then dont care at all times. If you want to see Laker fans suffer, then you do care, so care then. But dont do that YEAH BABY LAKERS LOST HA HA one minute, then when Lakers win it all, “ah, I dont really care anyways” Thats not really fair. But ofcourse you can do whatever you want.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

and I dont even know if you are that way or not to be honest, but just incase, just sayin lol

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I care when annoying people are annoying

not liking basketball or baseball does not make basketball or baseball players suddenly dissapear from my universe.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But what makes then annoying? Because they are happy their team won? So if Texans win SB, no Texan fans will become annoying from then thru next Super Bowl? IMO in most cases, the only thing that makes a fan or fan base annoying is because their team is winning, and yours isnt. Thats the only difference. People are going to be happy when their team wins, and there going to flaunt it, thats everyone.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

example maybe is Patriot fans…. People now think they are annoying fans… Shit who were they before Brady? Did anyone even talk about NE or their fans before Brady? Now its their fans are annoying, and ESPN is on their nuts. Bottom line is what im trying to say is, its jealous, its annoying, because people are jealous that team has success, and theirs doesnt.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

because people are jealous that team has success, and theirs doesnt.

lakersfan.txt

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

I’m not really going to engage chris any further on this, he is too close to see.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

does that matter

When you’re talking to a wall?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 12:39 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Most fans are annoying because most people are annoying. But yes, there are a lot of mindless and whiny Laker fans, Yankee fans, Celtic fans, Man U fans, etc, it’s just par for the course when they’re accustomed to championships.

At least I can take comfort in the fact that one team I regularly root for rarely lets me down, that’s nice when the other 3 consistently disappoint.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

annoying people are annoying period

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

and I do like the clippers

as much as it is possible for me to like a basketball team

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

right, I agree… But if Clippers enjoyed Lakers success, and it looks like they are on the right track, they’ll become just as annoying. Texans win a few SBs they will be just as annoying as NE fans, or whomever you think has the most annoying NFL fans.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Boston sports fans have always been annoying

they just talked shit about other sports instead of football.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Cowboys haven’t won anything in 15 years and their fans are still annoying.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

But they’ve enjoyed past success, so they feed off that. Maybe some people thought Dodger fans were annoying, before this whole mess happened. Now some just feel sorry for us.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels fans IMO became so annoying after winning the World Series, so I can only imagine what Clipper fans will do.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

But we can all agree we’re better than Giants fans, right?

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

a nice thought

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Either I hang out with no one who is annoying or I don't engage them in these conversations

I seriously doubt a Clippers fan could be annoying unless Clipper Daryl showed up in my office waving a towel and yelling “Here we go Clippers, here we go” everyday for two hours.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact no one ever annoys you, annoys the crap out of me:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I will add that

I don’t work with a lot of rabid sports fans.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I am easily the most rabid sports fan of my company of 50. We have one huge Laker fan. One huge sports gamble. Not much else. And you know how un-seriously I take my sports these days.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

darryl is the most annoying person alive

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if you have no better options. :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’ve never met Frankie Muniz?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

well it wont be D Howard

Per Adrian Woj

Y! Sources: The Orlando Magic end trade discussions for Dwight Howard, plan to start the season with him in the lineup.

link

Newbie

by gdl on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

I ended trade discussions with a partner once. Still ended up knees to Jesus a week later

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If someone had all the details and the time

Maybe they could write a great piece like this here on the Dodgers financial issues – but here is a great fan post from the SBN Mets’ site re their financial problems

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

Just read this.

Cliff Notes version: Mets are fucking broke and there doesn’t seem to be a way out.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

I saw the tweet and thought, “Really? Going against Bagwell?” and didn’t think to click the link.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Fox in

Santa Barbara, Bakersfield going with Raiders, but KTTV is going with Redskins v. Giants. Does that seem right to you?

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

No it doesnt seem right…. Alot of none sunday night, monday night NYG games have been shown here this year, I dont know if that is normal?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

has happened a few times this year. my mom gets SB programming and has watched more than me this year

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

you don’t have a Direct TV package to get around the local broadcasting scheduling?

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Buffalo Wild Wings

There are 3 withing a 6 mile radius. Win.

I just love this place.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 14, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It is a great place to watch football, although it gets pricey fast

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

i usually hang out with other rich people

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish we had them on the Westside.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Fox only has one slot

on Sunday and probably figured that their lone late game (Detroit at Oakland) would fare poorly with the much anticipated New England at Denver game on CBS.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Also didnt CBS have 2 games last sunday? so why 2 again this sunday? Thought they switch off every week but I guess not exactly.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Fox had two in a row before this, for reasons I can’t recall at the moment

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of NFL TV

Richard Sandomir of the NY Times says the new TV deal will be worth $3 billion annually to the NFL on average over the 9-year deal.

Also, CBS gets “some flex” and NBC to get a prime time Thanksgiving game.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Will NFL Sunday Ticket ever be something you can get on any provider?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Time Warner will outbid them next time haha, who am I kidding we cant even get NFL Network…. I wish all games were just pay per view, and you could just pay for the ones you want. 300 bucks is insane….

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it $300 for NFL Network?

by OB12 on Dec 14, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

No, sorry, not for NFL Network, for NFL Sunday Ticket on Directv is 300 for whole season I believe. Unless you got it for free this year as a new customer.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wish their streaming app didn't suck

I want to pay for it next year, but my experiences using my friends login have been dissapointing to say the least

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I have had no issues with it on my iphone or ipad

or even when I had it with my android device.

Wifi does work better but I have streamed from my car (nothing like the Red Zone channel via bluetooth on the car speaker system).

I have to say that generally, streaming on my ipad has worked really well.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

then they need to fix the shit out of their ps3 app

its not good

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard you get it free for the first year

and have to keep it at the regular price for the 2nd year otherwise it’s a breach of contract

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB.tv is $150 give or take a Yuppie Food Stamp, and NFL twice as valuable a commodity. It wouldn’t be that expensive if DTV wasn’t making money

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It costs 150 bucks to watch games on the internet? dam, I didnt know it was that expensive… you cant even watch in market games either….. I wish NFL had atleast an internet thing though.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

again, the more they dilute the service, the fewer DirecTV packages get sold

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

DirecTV is my favorite service provider of all time

no other provider is even a close second

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

and that is for ANY service

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

so you’ve had every service? you’ve had Fios? I doubt it.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not suggest that I have had every service, I did say for the services I have had, DirecTV is my favorite far and away

I don’t have fios, maybe that would be the bees knees

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You just like Directv because they have the RAI channel… im kidding, all providers do now I believe..

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the photo

I had no idea that you were Ben Roethlisberger in real life

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

haha ive gotten that before actually. Walking out of the liquor store once this dude swore I was Big Ben.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But then he realized his mistake because you weren’t actively raping someone?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s a married man these days fellas

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That always stops athletes.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And that’s stopping him how?

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

James Worthy was a married man when he ordered up two Houston hos.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The only faithful men are men with no better options, best believe that.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Oy.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck off.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You need to learn when it is time to just hit delete and walk away from your computer…

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Waiting for the invariable “just kidding” reply.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no im not going to say just kidding, if people can figure that out, then fuck it.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

AMEN CHRIS

That is something that I could have gotten away with easily

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing how not being terrible all the time matters.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

even I knew that he was kidding on that one

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been led to believe that Roethlisberger engages in rape the way you or I engage in conversation. Is this not the case?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

we’ve spoken in this medium more than twice

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha. So, he’s a cyberrapist.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I once called Direct TV late on a Friday afternoon

because I had a problem with my receiver, I got a replacement receiver the next day with special Fed Ex delivery at no cost to me (okay outside the insurance I pay them for).

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

when I was in North Carolina, my dish get fouled up some how during the winter

I called on a saturday and remarked that how was I going to watch football on Sunday

they had a repairman at my house, Sunday AM, and he was done in time for the games to start

that was awesome

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I have Charter

tv/tubes/phone. I’m happy, though its expensive

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

They have the extra part of Extra Innings with more HD coverage, and also the channel with a bunch of games at once.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

and when your shit breaks or when you buy a new TV and need an HD dish installed

they just show up and knock it out

they are awesome as a service

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Cable always gets shit on

But my experience with Time Warner over the last 13 years has been excellent, even the occasional service calls.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a happy Time Warner customer in San Diego.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been on the dish for longer than that – but when I had cable, I hated them

I really really hated them

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont know, my 2 year deal with TW is about up, thinking about leaving. Im not really sure why, no major reasons, but as a sports nut I dont think they cater to my sports needs like other providers do. No NFL Network, They didnt even add a TruTV in HD for the NCAA tournament games like Directv and others did, and they own the fuckin channel… They also charge 2 bucks to remove a premium channel, its only 2 bucks, but wtf?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

TW also didnt add Fox Sports West 2 fast enough so I think I missed a few Dodger games way back then I could have seen.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Of the three major pro league networks

the MLB Network is the most relevant for me. The NBA and NFL networks could go away and I wouldn’t miss it.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Time Warner but I’m currently stuck with them.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

tell them you want the playboy channel for free. i bet it will work

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there a reason? Worth a shot I guess…I pay enough for their shitty service.

Hoping my building gets Fios soon.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

they have a funny “reality” show where they get 4 “random” people in a hollywood house for a weekend, and you know what happens from there. anyways, the channel sucks. my old roommate called them while high, asked for it for free, and they gave it to him.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I stick with them too for fear of change and the unknown. My bro does have Fios though and it looks pretty sweet. I’ll see what I do… Directv has no internet though right? so you gonna get a different provider for that?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

i have cox cable for internet and directv

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they only offer DSL through Qwest or other companies.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: DirecTV

Fuck Chase Carey.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That never seems to work for me

I always do it in this order: chase, carry, fuck.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand that, but shouldnt NFL care more about making the most money they can, then about Directv?? I mean AT&T lost the Iphone, why cant Directv lose Sunday Ticket?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

But I suppose you are saying Directv will never allow itself to be outbid or will always pay an insane amount because of the business they may lose. But I gotta think some custoers dont get NFL ticket

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

DirecTV is an NFL partner, they pay up for that exclusivity

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The NFL must believe that the deal they get from DirecTV is the one in their best interest. If they feel that some alteration to this deal is more in their interest, they will pursue that.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that MLB.TV is $120 for the full season.

And it has blackout restrictions, so I can’t see the games when LA is playing against the DBacks or Rockies.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder why CBS and not FOX. But I can see this as the beginning of the slippery slope that leads to weekly bidding on your TV slate.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The NFC has always been seen as having more of the larger markets that the AFC doesn't have

Washington (though the AFC has Baltimore)
Philadelphia
Dallas (AFC has Houston)
Chicago

And even their smallest market, Green Bay has a large national following.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The AFC just has the better teams

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

AFC has Pittsburgh, which has a huge national following too, despite small-marketness, and Boston. But also J-ville, Buffalo… I agree that the NFC is the sexier half, but it’s not that huge a disparity.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The Thansgiving NBC prime time game is annual

NBC also gets a new Sunday morning pregame show starting next year, and they get 19 games per year beginning next year, up from 18 now.

NBC will broadcast 1 Wild Card round game and 1 divisional round playoff game beginning in 2014

NBC gets Super Bowl in 2015, 2018, 2021.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just wondering when The CW throws it’s hat in the ring. Pre-game show starting some vampires and rich girls!

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It would definitely be the hottest pregame show.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyler Perry would have to produce it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Madea goes to Training Camp.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Please, no wardrobe malfunction.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

x

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Love it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

In those Super Bowl years, does NBC lose one of the other playoff games, or just get the extra game?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty sure they get those playoff games every year, even when they have a Super Bowl.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice. I like NBC’s coverage.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The good news is that this means they won’t have to use the B team (Tom Hammond and Mike Mayock, I believe) which is terrible.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Lots of hardcore football guys love Mayock. They think he could be an NFL GM.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish him luck in pursuing that endeavor.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s terrible as an announcer.

Gets things wrong all the time.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe the Super Bowl contract is separate from the regular season + playoff contract

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Red Sox give Nick Punto a two year deal over which he’ll probably out play Jed Lowrie.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

between $3 million and $3.5 million total, depending on Rosenthal or Heyman.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

plus between $1.5-$1.75m annually in incentives, per Rosenthal

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If Punto is playing enough to earn that much in incentives the Sawx are screwed.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Piche Punto.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

anybody else excited about this barcelona-santos game sunday morning? my by neymar is going to show messi how its done.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

More on the NFL TV deal

here:

on Flex scheduling:

It will be expanded in 2014, including the ability to move games between CBS and FOX to bring regional games to wider audiences. Further details on enhanced flexible scheduling will be developed with the networks.

Interesting.

CBS has Super Bowls in 2016, 2019, 2022
Fox has 2017, 2020, 2023

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

I'm glad I avoided

The trap that was LOST

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

if you go into it with the right expectations

I still think it would be worth watching. Just don’t expect things to be wrapped up nicely in the end.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I won’t watch it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 1:20 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well you can, as long as you consider “magic light” wrapped up nicely.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

even then I don't consider it properly wrapped up

too many things that just didn’t add up even using their own internal logic.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they did more than people give them credit for, the only thing that makes zero sense is the cabin.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I spent way too much time arguing this and don't even remember half of it anymore

but you still can’t explain all the apperations of Christian away. How did he get on the boat? How did he get to LA?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay that too.

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still waiting

for those two people who were buried alive to come back. What a way to write annoying characters out of a show.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to know how My Favorite Martian’s antenna’s worked. And how does Jeannie get in the bottle?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ray Walston

had some nice roles
Uncle Martin
The devil in Damn Yankees
Mr. Hand
Race caller in The Sting

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

and my favorite the Teacher in Fast Times

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be

Mr. Hand

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

and perusing his filmography I learned

They made a stop action movie of The Mouse and the Motorcycle

A book that screws with me to this day. As a kid I loved that book, but now, everytime I kill a rat (and i have to kill many) I wonder, did I just kill a heroic rat, and his brothers are going to die without the medicine.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

TheRealMattKemp Matt Kemp
Jus was apart of an amazing event that Sweet Alice throws every year for the kids! Toy’s and Toy’s everywhere!! lockerz.com/s/164862843

So he is local, but they couldn’t get him to be part of the Dodgers’ Christmas thingy starring Matt Luke and Bobby Castillo? Another head-shaker. Also, Sweet Alice is awesome. I remember her episode of Extreme Makeover.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

I hate Gerardo Parra

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Dude, i expect higher quality hating from you!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think Kershaw didn’t mean to hit him

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 14, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think Santa is going to show up on the 25th

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Will you stop with the Santa isnt real stuff man, your killing the Christmas spirit. He is too real!

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Phil has better options.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

If Phil had better options he wouldn’t be here.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait. UCLA added Demetri(ce) Martin to their coaching staff and it doesn’t get a joke here?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

is he someone’s over weight cousin who is a member of the original tribes?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in the middle of a nasty discussion

:-(

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t bend over to tie your shoe

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Business in Chatsworth?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell them to wait 5 minutes

You need to correct someone on a blog

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Why, is Nolander here?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Brothers and Fries

AVOID AVOID AVOID. This is a new hole-in-the-wall that just opened in Pasadena next to Jake’s. The absolute greasiest, shittiest slice of pizza I have ever had.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

this made me laugh

you ate Pizza at a place called Brothers and Fries, and you are disappointed by the outcome —

thank you!

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

Brothers Pies N Fries.

Here’s what they do: They have these extra large pizzas sitting in a box. When people order, the woman grabs it (without gloves, I might add) and just warms it up.

I shit you not, this things was just DRIPPING grease. And it was paper thin, too. Cost me $5.50 with a Pepsi.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I am pleased not to be shitted

Next time post before you order and I will be sure to move you along

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You should try

Fat Cousins

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

On a stick

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

did you win that shit or what?

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

these fuckers are lagging on making the announcement. i will have to call tonight.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

i will just hate on them some more if I did not win.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude that Mayweather Pac Man shit still isnt out yet, he must really have some inside info… He should leak it now and make a name for himself.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

he is just a bullshitter.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope we made HJ laugh at least once

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

We walked from the deal – makes a huge revenue hole from us, going to have to bust ass to fill it

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone is squeezing, no wants anyone to make any money. Fuck em all

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

See, I misunderstood. I got the impression that a nasty discussion was going on between two parties and you were simply an outsider, not one of the participants. Sorry about the loss of the business and good luck filling the void.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

thx Phil

It is what I signed up for, though some days seem to take more that I’d like to give

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knows if it will work

But Jim Mora (don’t call me Jr) has been on the job for about 24 hours or so and has hired 4 assistants (confirmed), two from ASU, including their current Offensive Coordinator, and a coach considered to be one of the best recruiters in the country from SMU.

As of now, one unconfirmed hire from the current staff (though he just got moved from a grad assistant to a coach in the last two weeks).

Again, it appears that while they will probably do a good job in keeping current commits and adding a few surprises, the real test will be can they coach the players up and find a system that works on both sides of the ball.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

New Sheriff in town

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He was very low key in his interviews

Says he worked with Monte Kiffin in the NFL for a year, thinks Lane is doing a great job.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I get not calling him Jr in person, but there has to be a way to differentiate between him and his dad in print. I know it wasn’t until I saw a picture that I realized it wasn’t his Dad that had agreed to coach UCLA

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

His friends call him MoJu

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by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He has a lot of fat cousins?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t think Juniors understand how confusing it is for those outside the family. For the family we just call one Dad and the other Paul, but for those outside the family they have to refer my Dad as Old Paul and my brother as Young Paul instead of Junior. Junior would be so much easier.

Then again I blame parents for going the Junior route.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

my brother and dad have the same name but they aren't jr(my gramps messed up the middle name)

so when geos by [] and they other goes by []y

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I worked for the same company as my stepdad for close to 6 years. They all called me Junior even though he isn’t a) my real dad b) named Zach like I am. /shrugs

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m naming my kid a Jr. just so one day there can be a Reichbach III.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The Third Reichbach might not be such a good thing to have…

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Imagine if he picked handles like the Down family does.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

he was on the Dan Patric show today

He said he didn’t mind being called Jim Mora Jr

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Just don't call him

late for dinner amirite?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Jim (Not the guy who said PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?) Mora

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

James Mora


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Mora years losing to USC

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Get a brain, Mora.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Mora! Mora! Mora!
?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Scusa me, but you see
when we lose to SC,
That’s a Mora!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Re-Mora. Like the things that suck parasites off of the bellies of sharks.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

To Mora! To Mora!
We love him! To Mora!
We’re only a year away!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

When the moon hits your eye
Like a big-a pizza pie
That’s Jim Mora

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone made a Melvin Mora joke yet?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Melvin's dad?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s fertile territory.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

that might work for the president, but I don’t know too many football coaches’ middle names

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

How many football coaches’ parents do you know?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Bum Phillips(son wade)

Michael Shannan(son kyle)
thats all I got

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Monte Kiffin!


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Buddy Ryan and his two hot-headed sons.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew I was forgetting a houston legend

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

run and shoot!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

no wait that was bum wasn't it?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Buddy Ryan was the defense

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

buddy was the guy who would have like 6 linebackers wasn't he

and just blitz nonstop?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he was the man behind the Bears’ great defenses in the 80’s.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

and I believe it was Kevin Gilbride’s run-n-shoot

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA has always recruited well

But yeah, coaches have not done a good job at developing talent.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

guys

i just pretty much finished a 32 page paper. i am so tired. AND I AM STILL NOT DONE WITH FINALS.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

STUDENT LYFE.

How long is your break between semesters?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Edward 40Hands!


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

one month.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss that so much

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah it's a perk

but so is working how many hours in a day, and then being able to go home and relax. I take work home with me.

Not as much as Phil probably does, of course.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

you look good

on your hind legs, with your dander up

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a trade off

for the first year or so I was just happy to be able to go home and stop thinking about it. Then the reality that I simply did not have nearly as much free time overall really started hitting home.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Difficult for me to actually take work home. On the down side, when there’s a lot to do (like most of this year), I end up at the office for really long hours. I was supposed to be off yesterday, ended up working 12:30 to 12:00.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I keep being told

not to take work home, or do work on the weekend. But then they keep piling it on and expect the deadlines to be met

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey – that is my management style

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

you’re a dick

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Possession is nine-tenths of what you are?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I expand people’s ideas about what they are capable of

I have fired many people, but have never had someone quit who I already didn’t want them to leave

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I expand people’s ideas about what they are capable of

Was that a dating philosophy too?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You tried to expand Bride’s idea of what she is capable of and she slapped you and beat you down, didn’t she?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. (Hangs head, slumps away)

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

this was awesome

thank you!

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll give you a “half-right” on that

For people who just want a job and a life, I am probably not the best of bosses. For people who want a career at the cost of some of their life, I can help them do more than they otherwise could – and it is not all just more effort, but smart effort

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

and develop and deploy real time synergies that enable vendors and partners to work not as traditional adversaries trading margin for effort, but as extensions of each others organizations, with the intention of creating value far beyond what either could do looking out for their own interest. It is truly a 2 + 2 = 5 scenario

happy?

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

thank you

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

you should hear me say that shit in a suit

sometimes I am tempted to stick a pencil in my eye mid-pitch

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad I’m just a fucking engineer.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, can’t cut that 2+2=5 shit in our industry.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

when did you move to Chatsworth?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that is all true

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You have made two comments today that I consider the best comments you have ever made.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, I appreciate that.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing I can add is, this is why a lot of Euro countries

especially Scandinavian, have a higher “happiness index” — they get more vacation, put more emphasis on maternity+childcare, and basically it’s insisted upon that people get breaks. (yes yes, higher taxes in some respects, don’t want to get too political here, but they get paid respectfully and mental happiness is emphasized). This country has serious societal issues right now because all of this is backwards and effed up.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Costs in Norway though are sky-high. My exchange student from Norway, and her family when they came to visit, were stunned at how inexpensive things were here.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah Norway is an example of a huge trade-off in that regard.

I think maybe Germany (just from what I know of the place and from Germans I know) may be better example of balance in that regard though I also know there are problems there too with depression and stress among workers.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Reading over this thread, I want to apologize to HJ. I think I was too harsh. I shouldn’t have used you as an example of a larger issue when I have no idea — none at all — about what you are like as a boss.

No matter what I think about these other issues, that was wrong. I’m sorry.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

no offense taken

but kind of you to write none the less

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

and interrupt your work to get daily, or twice-daily, status.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

As I recall, those are really good for recharging the battery.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, that sucks

I just finished working for the 37th year and I bet I never worked as hard in those 37 years as you have for the last three months.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I apologize for the comment above.

But I will add to the college students who tell us how hard they work.

Getting up every day with only weekends to look forward to, with no school breaks, for year on end, accumulating two lousy weeks of vacation a year, for years and years, that is work. Mind numbing work. So while I appreciate how hard academia is, do we really need to hear about everytime finals are about to finish and afterwards you get a month or so off?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The people who work 40+ hours and do school

They are the real heroes :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody is a hero

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

EMTs
Firefighters
Good Teachers

What do all 3 have in common? All are underpaid for what they do, and all are heroes in my books.

by Grimjack on Dec 14, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West.

You know… morons

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We have a program where the company will pay for your grad school

while you work part-time. One of the kids on my team just completed the work for his masters in computer engineering (at USC) this semester. While he did his grad studies he worked 60% time (MWF) during the semester and full-time in between. Seemed like he was really busy between the work he was doing for us and the work he was doing for school.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there a pool

for when he leaves for another company?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Doing the work to organize a pool would require, you know, morale.

Fortunately our competitors aren’t doing much hiring these days.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I was listening to a story yesterday

there is a great need for airline mechanics in Oklahoma, the jobs start at $12 an hour and go to $25 or so. Once this one company (who has like 200 openings in each of their locations throughout the country) gets someone up to around $20 an hour, they get poached by the military or other private industry

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, I’ve been part of a few companies who had such programs. On the surface they sound great, but in my experience after the Worker/Student get the Bachelors or Grad degree, the company who paid for his education does not bump him up to the level they would have had to pay to hire him if he was new to the company. So inevitably they leave for the higher paying position in another company.

However I’m old, so maybe that practice does not happen anymore in an economy that has few prospects for anyone, degreed or not.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m grooming him to be my replacement. Of course when he realize that that is where his career is leading, he’ll leave us for an entirely different industry.


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

My supervisor at Time Warner Cable

Was working full-time there, full school schedule, and interning with the Clippers all at the same time. I have no idea how anyone could do all that.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

If you knew what interning for the Clippers meant work wise you would not be as impressed.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol

He told me he had to type up and print out new stuff every game for reporters for questions pre and post game, not sure what else though.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Too good

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I know YOU'RE not :P

I was just kidding, I think they’re both hard and shitty, everyone just needs to win the lottery.

But then society crumbles because no one has a job doing anything and life becomes like Idiocracy.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss the free time

but man, school was so much more stressful for me then my job.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

My job was a lot more stressful. Bidding on jobs that are upwards of $10 mil in total work and knowing that we need the work to keep 20 to 30 guys from being laid off. Have to get that bid low enough to get the work, but also still need to make a profit so everything needs to be triple checked.

Now most jobs were closer to the $500k to $1 mil range and the crews were sized down but the same stress was there.

The stress levels involved in being in upper management are high enough to make you sick to your stomach on a daily basis. I loved the work though and I hope to go back to it when things settle down.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh

I was just a total wreck by the time I was done with school. I am not good at keeping track of all my assignments and tests and such, so I would wake up every day and immediatly start worrying if I had forgotten something, or freaking out because I should be studying more, or w/e.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t go to school until after I had been working at my previously mentioned job, so organizational skills were built in. I probably would have had a much harder time with school had I gone there first.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Or the stress is enough to

make you drink large amounts

I can drink more now, as an entrepreneur, than I ever could as a partier

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I was in my mid 20’s at the time so I probably drank a lot but I correlated that to my age and not the stress. It was probably a lot more about the stress. When/if I do get back in that field I’ll have to find a new way to relieve my stress.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Blogging!


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

to find a new way to relieve my stress.

Lodgenet makes a bundle in that business

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry

I always forget how everyone’s life pales in comparison to yours.

I worked 50-60 hours a week almost every week for two years, including some weekends. I decided to go back to school to be able to do what I truly wanted to be working.

Guess who is now working two jobs because her boyfriend is about to lose his? Seriously, Phil, you’re a real piece of work.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

so while I may not be able to say I did it for 37 years

I did enough to realize it’s not what I want to be doing without getting paid a whole lot more.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz, – I don’t work hard, and I never tell anyone I work hard. You are working hard, bravo. I already apologized for the comment.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

dude, I can read

You apologized for the comment above and then elaborated on it below. I’ll be sure to bow low to acknowledge the fact that you and BH and people like you have experiences that topple and trump mine.

I was in no ways trying to say “oh man, pity me, look how hard my life is”, I was just commenting on how shitty this particular week is because I have an asston of work to do, as HJ did when he said that he now has a shit ton of work to do because a particular deal fell through. How is that different? Because I’m 25 and he’s over 30? I had no idea.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Let’s play 5 games of beer pong on Sunday

by Julio Nievas on Dec 14, 2011 2:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

let's totally do that

because we’re not old! high five!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, is this making fun of me?

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It is great that you have taken the opportunity to do something you really want to do

I admire people who do that.

But there are some of us, who frankly, are just a lot older than some of you who are in school. And its great that place built around the Dodgers can gather a wide audience.

I remember a few years ago on Dodgerthoughts, there was a pretty good guy who told us that he and wife got laid off, they had kids and a mortgage, that was tough.

I knew of a commeter on another sports messageboard who was killed in the metro link crash a few years ago, we took up a collection on the site and got the money to that family.

Phil might have been a little flippant but frankly most of us are so far removed from the college experience that school is just something that maybe our kids are doing or something we are not around much anymore.

Now, I hope things work out well in your personal situation, I really do but if you are to get mad at Phil, get mad at me too because basically I thought the same thing but didn’t write it.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Things getting too serious around here.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

take off all your clothes

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a weird thread. We need MacDougal to sign his two-year deal soon . . .

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

wait it this for real?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

apparently yes

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Why so serious?

You know-–you know what I’ve noticed? Nobody panics when things go “according to plan”… even if the plan is horrifying. If tomorrow I told the press that, like, Ned would trade for Vernon Wells, or Ned signs Edwin Jackson for 5 years 75 million, nobody panics, because it’s all part of the plan. But when I talk about school vs working… [frantically] well, then everyone loses their minds!

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

slightly modified ;)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of us, but is it most of us? There is pretty big mid-20s contingent here that isn’t all that far removed from school daze. And I hear fbihop gets to relive it a lot too. ;-)


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You seriously just played the “I remember when I was your age” card. Unreal.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

But that is a real card. You’re not saying life experiences don’t count, are you?


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by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I'm not

But in what way does this warrant that card, Dave? In what way was I saying, “I want to do this” and people said, “no, you are too young” and I said “whatever, i do what I want?” Did English change dramatically in the past 20 minute minutes? Hour, maybe?

Oh no, I remember when things were truly hard! How dare you complain about your finals when I remember when SOMEONE DIED?! Seriously? Dave, if you’re going to defend that, have fun.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

As a side note, are there actual colleges with a rule on the books about roommates dying like Dead Man on Campus?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We had a frat lose their house on the frat quad cos they accidentally killed a pledge because of hazing. That count?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

also

it’s a dead man’s party, who could ask for more?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t run away (Maddz), it’s only Phil.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Why be afraid of what you can’t see?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

btw I heard a song today on the radio

that you sang for karaoke. You and Gary need that Regulators duet stat

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

RIP Nate Dogg

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for troof

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Promise? That’s a great song, the original and the cover by NFG.

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This just in: Meercats are blind?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes but most of them just let you drop your classes

not give you A’s

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

actually

that happened to a friend of mine a few years back, i think they let him take incompletes. fucking harvard

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah something like that

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

School Ties! Lots of soon-to-be star power in that one.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I've heard that used before in other tv and movies

So I’d imagine so

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not even sure what we are arguing about. I’m not sure what BH’s point actually is. I do know that an open ended comment like “I am tired from all this hard work” can garner a wide variety of response, which might include measuring contests.

We’re in that time smack between the big year end holidays, while in a crappy, wallowing economy. I’ll bet we’re all a bit stressed out these days.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think everyone should chill out… There are people out there that dont even know the next time they will eat, etc. THATS stress

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You sound like my mom from when I was a kid and wouldn’t finish my vegetables.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Like that's crazy

I remember when I was matthewmafa’s age, it feels like forever ago!

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be done with finals in about 2 hours

Then I’ll probably commence “getting fucked up” shortly afterwards.

Not really, but I do want to eat at an Indian-cuisine restaurant. HJ, BH, anyone, suggestions?

by Julio Nievas on Dec 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

bhaa-e and fries

is reputed to be excellent

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Literally LOL


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Tanzore is expensive and hip looking, but the chef is from the Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai and he can really cook. The key is to tell them you want it authentic and not Americanized

For a cheaper meal – India’s clay pot on #rd or is it Beverly? not bad

Alhambra is the bomb, but I can’t remember the place I like

Truth be told, I nearly never eat Indian in Los Angeles

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

On the West side I like New India Grill.

by Grimjack on Dec 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

what do you mean not really? You better get fucked up!

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Your final finals. You got people lined up offering you jobs right? I mean besides Eric.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope your going to get paid millions for all this school work you do, whatever career you will be in.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

when are you getting up ins swtor

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

k3vo’s already there, get you some

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

that fool is probably on a different server

damn him!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s probably true.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought

this was something about south west Torrance

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

College

A noble institution. Good thing you like learning. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

What if we troll MLB with a high bid and have no intention of paying Darvish?

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

a bid

is like a contract.

I know a lot about contracts because I am old.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers would get their bid money back if no agreement.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re the fat cousin in this equation.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, ’cause Jews are good with money, huh?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

quick

someone tell someone else to go fuck themselves

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Dave, go fuck yourself!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Um. Hey, uh, Dave…

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I invite all of you to tell me to go fuck myself.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

What, my other personality doesn’t count as “someone else”?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh.

Well then, carry on.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

How do you know I’m not a switch-masturbator? Or one of those freaky throws right, pumps left dudes?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

how is that freaky? that’s just well practiced

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

now days you have the mouse in your right hand

amirite

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahaha

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

From this I gather that the man is no stranger to the “Stranger”

by Grimjack on Dec 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

(whistles like billy joel)

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Well-practiced

That comes with age. ;-)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

And college!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

someone tell someone else

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, it would have been funnier for the meercat to tell Phil to go fuck yourself, but I don’t have an alter-ego, so that was the best I could do, and I went for it. DON’T HOLD ME DOWN MAN!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

/patpat

You gave it the good ole college try.

NOW GET OUT THERE AND GET A JOB YOU FUCKING HIPPIE

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he say “go fuck yourself”
or
Does he say “I’m Fucked”
or
Does he say “go Fuck himself”

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it would be good for the board if you did the honors here

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Since Maddz won't bother

Go Fuck Yourself

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Reg, go fuck yourself….. god dam have I wanted a long time for that…. Thanks for giving me the opening, I feel so much better now… Im gonna go have a cigarette now

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

oh honey

and you had all this good will

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude

there is clearly no joke in there. Furthering stereotypes is not going to help you win friends and influence people.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

/slow clap

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

And poison their relationship with the NPB. I believe the NPB team gets to choose the bid they accept, not necessarily the highest one. Pull hijinks and they never accept your bid again.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

They don’t get to choose the bid.

I was just effing around.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

A bid is not a contract

but it’s very nice, yes it’s very nice.
Just because you’ve been exploring Yu

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

...doesn't mean you get to take an expedition further, too

/conchords

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

so speaking of coaches who's dad we know

Wade Phillips is going to undergo some surgery to do something to his kidney
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Texans-asst-coach-Phillips-taking-medical-leave-01443898

The football gods are really not making this easy on the Texans

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

The football gods are really not making this easy on the Texans

The football gods had to be asked who the Texans were.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Football Gods: How dare you show your back to me! Slave, you will remove your helmet and tell me your name.
Texans: [removes helmet and turns around to face Football Gods] We are the Houston Texans, commander of the Armies of the AFC South, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true owner, Bob Mcnair. Father to a murdered QB, husband to a murdered Outside Linebacker. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I know I shouldn't mention this here but

I once derailed an entire Latin class by asking about the truthiness of Gladiator.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers have a bunch of Saturday games starting at 6:10pm. Roberto Baly is on the case.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

WTF

I normally leave around 5:30 for a 7:10 game. I have no desire to leave at 4:30 or so on a Saturday.

But Tony Jackson will love it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That said, I almost never attend Saturday games anyway, unless they are TBLA events.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that I think about it

a 6:10 starts leaves a nice amount of time for the TBLA Night at DS afterparty!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

By quick count I went to 11 of 13 home Saturdays this year, plus two more road Saturday games.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a customer service poll question

gets asked all the time about start times on weekends. Also, down here I believe both the Angels and Padres already do that.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems more family friendly. Can’t imagine too many fans complaining about it unless you work Saturday’s and don’t get off until later in the day. For the players, maybe a few shadows to deal with??

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Loved those

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

or two

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

they were great – but hated when I would fall asleep in the 7th inning

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a firm bed time of about 10 pm, so I would have been in that boat as well

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a grandma, that’s why

I get up at 5:30

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I get up at 5:30 too

no matter what time I go to bed it seems

can be annoying

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s rough

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife can't sleep past 8

which is annoying for me because I like to stay up late and sleep in

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

you know whats really annoying

your SO wakes up and his first words are " whats for breakfast" ?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

barely

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

“why is there a horse head in the bed?”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

“You remind me of your mom right now.”

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

they always say

if you want to know what your girl will look like in 30 years, look at her mom. Luck for me my mom still got it.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

“Turn around and show me the future” might be the best thing I’ve heard all day.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

of course

This is just before he heard the click of the dad’s shotgun

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Made me laugh.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Something you don’t want to hear in prison, though.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Because if you don’t know who you’re sleeping with by 10 P.M….


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

have another drink and it won’t matter

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I like it

If I were still living in LA, I think I would go to a lot of these

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

lol wtf is going on
Though the Magic have called off trade talks with Dwight Howard for now, Howard reiterated his stance on Wednesday that he wants to be dealt.
A source told Yahoo! Sports that “Dwight’s not a happy camper,” and Howard has told the Magic that he’ll leave via free agency if not dealt by the March 15 deadline. In other words, though trade talks have quieted down for the moment, we certainly haven’t heard the last of Howard being traded. And it wouldn’t be remotely shocking to see trade talk ramp up well in advance of the March 15 deadline. Source: Yahoo! Sports

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

So he wants out, then says Orlando is where I want to be. Magic think now they have a chances to keep him, and say they arent taking offers, now he wants out again lol

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

need that guy from the Hangover to chime in

WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!?!?!?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 3:25 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

why exactly is howard so disenfranchised with the magic anyways?

I thought he and the owner where buddies.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Something about not liking the GM was bandied about the other day by the Tweeterazzi.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Then if I was the Magic owner, I would wish the GM well in his future endeavors.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He complained it rains too much in Orlando

by Julio Nievas on Dec 14, 2011 3:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You’re only happy when it rains!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s nice around dawn.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Howard has a Shaq problem. Problem is, he badly wants to play at Staples but he can’t commit to wanting to be a Laker because Shaq was unable to bring a championship to Orlando but did with the Lakers. If Howard becomse a Laker he’s simply following the same path as Shaq and he hates that idea. Each night this eats at him. Does anyone really think he wants to be a Net?

No, the only solution is to become a Clipper and bring them a Championship, and that makes him unique in basketball history. It is a win for everyone involved except Orlando and fuck them.

1. Los Angeles gets Howard
2. Clippers win Championship
3. Lakers don’t get Howard
4. Kobe gets frustrated, calls out his front office for not supplying him with enough talent, he rapes again, this time the million dollar ring does not buy off his whorish wife.

Everyone wins.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

how/why did he steal the superman thing from him anyways?

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone thinks they are superman now

its dumb, shaq, howard, robert griffin 3, cam newton. YOU CAN’T ALL BE SUPERMAN. STOP IT.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

nerdification has athletes aspiring to be comics

we are damned

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody knows his identity though (no clue if true as I’m not a comic person) so he could be any of them!

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Just thought of another something

If Lebron decides to go to college, he should go to a UC. They only have three quarters (except Cal).

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

They all have 4 quarters

he just won’t show up to the summer session, or half ass it like the rest of us.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the quarter system

I learned everything and nothing at the same time

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 14, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I had to write Berkeley in my works cited and footnotes

and spelled it incorrectly every time. I am pleased. :)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

ugh

just constant stress. Oh its week 2, better start studying for the midterm! Midterm over? Shoot I got a midterm in two weeks! Midterm over? Final in 2 weeks!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I’m remembering why I never went back after failing out.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

but if you had a class that sucked hard

it was over quick rather than having to endure intolerable boredom for half the year..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 14, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That happened to my siblings this semester. They took “history of electronic music” and there was 0 daft punk, only pain

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

there was a history of super heros class I tried to take

it sucked ass. hard. Dropped after one lecture.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Hate to make this about myself but sometimes an african rodent has to do what an african rodent has to do. I once took a Sci Fi English class in HS, it was the only class in my academic career I ever starred in. I owed it all to the beautiful brown eyed girl of my dreams who sat across from me. Sometimes the class is really what the class is. But probably only in high school and not in the higher learning institutes where they suck you in with high expectations only to destroy you with …………

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Catching up on some B.S. Reports, and Bill Simmons talked with Jack-O about Pujols and C.J. Wilson in Anaheim. Simmons said, “Pujols has to be the most relevant Angel since Nolan Ryan right?”

Neither one of them, in their Sox/Yankees haze, could come up with Reggie Jackson, at the very least.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

Fred Lynn was a big deal when he came to Anaheim too. And he came from Boston.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 14, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Mo Vaughn was a big deal

get it? Big, because he was fat

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

it must kill him to see fences in front of all these dugouts nowadays

by delias man on Dec 14, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone has to be the pioneer

Who were the Angels who shortarmed catching him so that his career ended up on the dugout floor?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this

as feces

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

@sportsguy33 (Bill Simmons):

Heavy buzz that CP3/Clippers might be going down. Clips staff was just summoned to the office. Trying to get more info.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

I want off this shitty roller coaster

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 14, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

you say that until

Mac the Ninth gets 2 years

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I had a heavy buzz.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

these things are easily fixed

godspeed to you my friend

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

feelin you

one more hour

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Clips staff was just summoned to the office.

You’re all fired!

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

sounds like they gave up... everything?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank God we kept Bledsoe

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe they have up Gordon

forget what I said earlier, I am pissed Paul is not a Laker

choke on him Sterling you racist creep ass slum lord

Phil – I hope you enjoy him

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's see

they gave up the salary guy (Kaman), they gave up a really good player (Gordon), they gave up a potentially good player in Arminu and then they gave up an almost guarantee top five pick.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Stern wins

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

And us laker fans weep.

by Grimjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The Clippers caved in to the leagues demands.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The reward was Chris Paul, principles only get you so far.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

hell yes, Gordon is really good

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

merde

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Certainly much younger. They may have ended up with more talent but by the time the draft takes place I think the Clipper haul we be substantially better then the Houston/Laker/Hornet deal.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It is better since

they get a better player in Gordon, Kaman and Aminu are probably not as good as the Houson players. The pick is the wild card.

Overall, the Houston/Lakers deal might have gotten a few more wins this year, if Gordon decides to bail and not sign an extension, they still get first round pick and Aminu for Paul.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Gordon is going home to Indiana at the end of the day.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul
Billups
Mo Williams
Bledso

Griffin
Butler

DJordan

Backcourt stacked beyond belief
Frontcourt needs some depthwork

Easily the best team the Clippers will ever have.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

Paul-Griffin will be

a) pretty entertaining
b) awful entertaining
c)hot damn, now that’s entertainment

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I will watch that team, a lot

and curse David Stern every time Paul makes my heart skip a beat

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll watch the Clips this year, I’ll watch the Angels this year. Doesn’t change the teams I consider mine.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

who cares

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m done with the NBA until Stern steps down.

by ishXdavid on Dec 14, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

awwwwwwww poor lakers fan

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

smh

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by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

troll


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

meh

I think his statement is completely ridiculous.

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s hyperbole. Big deal.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

still ridiculous enough to make fun of.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been poking the bear a little much today though

I’ll admit to that

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ridiculous for you, not me. I wasn’t imploring a boycott of the league. I was merely stating how I feel about the NBA. Personally, I only watch the Lakers, so it’ll be easy for me to not watch the NBA anymore.

by ishXdavid on Dec 14, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

especially in June

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s more than the team, it’s losing faith in the league. It’s the 11:59 veto of a deal that was already agreed upon without a clear explanation.

by ishXdavid on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they where pretty clear

they said they didn’t think NO got enough in the deal iirc. People may think they are full of shit, but thats a different matter. It could be argued they ended up getting more by holding out. Either way you’ll be watching in 11 days.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

“They”? When the NBA tells Demps he has the autonomy to make a deal, then takes it from him after he makes a deal, it isn’t right.

And I won’t be watching the NBA in 11 days. I’m counting down the days until pitchers and catcher report.

by ishXdavid on Dec 14, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The league stepped in and told their GM his deal wasn’t good enough. Owners of sports teams do this all the time when their GM’s try and make deals. The only difference here is the NBA is the owner and all of this was leaked to the media. Had it been kept quiet like it should have been then there is no uproar.

I say that as a longtime Lakers fan.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Peter Angelos!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Angelos or Sterling: Which one is worse?

(More for others to answer as you aren’t a big basketball fan)

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Sterling in the past

Angelos now perhaps

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by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pissed too

but I’m still watching. How could you not want the Clippers to be a better team? I want to see good teams playing each other every night, not Minnesota-Charlotte. That said, fuck David Stern.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I want January

in the knee blow-out pool

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

go clips

give the lakers hell

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta figure Mo Williams is trade bait now right?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta figure that

At best, he’s 3rd on the PG depth chart, unless they move him or Chauncey to the offguard spot to fill the giant EJ void there now.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m guessing
Paul PG
Billups SG
Mo fills in for both

We still have Foye so I guess he could do that if they move Mo.

Bledso out until January.

Will be curious how they fill the depth. Should be no shortage of vets who will want to play with Paul/Billups/Griffin.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

That’s a damn good team, assuming Paul’s knees hold up. Clipper games are gonna be so much fun to watch.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Weren’t the something like a #5 seed a few years ago?

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. I will be surprised if 2012 Clippers get a higher seed than that.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Prepare to be surprised

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

66 game season, not much training camp… anything can happen.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. Could miss the playoffs completely. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a betting man, are you?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure. Clippers are not top four WC playoff seed.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s review what you said so far:
1. Clippers would not match the six seed there were a few years ago
2. Flippant, they would not make playoffs.

Now, the bet is top Four? This seems strange. Why would I do this? I’ve never claimed they are a top four team in the West.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I said I would be surprised if the Clippers finished higher than the 6th seed. I never said they would not make the playoffs. I said I’d take bet that they would not be a four seed or higher. I see nothing wrong with stating they won’t get 5 seed then taking bet that they won’t get 4 seed. Not much of a difference there. Let’s see what kind of balls you have.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they are a six seed for sure. Four is a little more dicey, you said you’d be surprised if they were a six seed, I don’t need big balls to admit I don’t think they are a four seed yet.

Just seems to me that if someone says I don’t think a team will win 50 games then is asked to make a bet about then changes it gets changed to 55 games one needs balls to do a stupid bet.

Questioning my balls seems small of you, even for you.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

read again. I said I’d be surprised if the Clippers were higher than a 6th seed. Which means either 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd or 1st. I will take bets on 4th or higher. I’m a good gambler. I don’t split my tens like some people around here do.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Not ready for that.
Mavericks
Thunder
Grizzlies
Lakers

Clippers

Is how I have it. I only make bets I feel I can win.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Normally I might agree, but I think they will be helped by the compacted schedule, in that given their youth they won’t be as negatively affected on the tail end of long strings of games (back-to-back-to-back, 3 games in 4 nights, 5 games in 7 nights, etc).

Also, the unbalanced schedule broke a bit in their favor too. Their 18 games against the east include home games against last year’s three division winners (Miami, Boston, and Chicago), and the three east teams they play twice are Washington, New Jersey, and Atlanta, all shitty.

You could make an argument the Clippers might be the best team in LA, but I don’t buy it, at least not yet. But I do think they are a terrible matchup for the Lakers right now, which if they meet is really all that matters.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We aren’t as young as we were four hours ago. Paul has the bad knee, Butler coming off of knee surgery, the big advantage we had regarding youth has been negated unless our TWO NUMBER TWO PICKS help out in a big way:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster_ESPN
Sources: the Yankees did post an offer on Yu Darvish.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

I can’t like him if he goes there.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m seeing Kuroda to Arizona buzz.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t like him if he goes there.
.
.
.
Yeah, I can…I love Hiro.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Because at least one team bid, Major League Baseball notified the Japanese commissioner’s office of the amount of the highest bid, but not the team that placed it. The Fighters now have four days to decide if they accept the high bid, but an MLB official expected their decision – and the disclosure of the winning team – to come Wednesday night or Thursday morning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/yu-darvish-posting-deadline-passes-wait-begins/2011/12/14/gIQABQDguO_blog.html

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I was sure the Yankees were going to get Paul

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Dan Gilbert is choosing which font to use to send a letter to Stern RIGHT NOW.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

comic sans

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Brush Script

in all caps

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

relevant

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Sorry I’m standing in the way of your minimalist Bauhaus-esque fascist snoozefest

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

also lovely

While Gotham is at the science fair, I’m banging the prom queen behind the woodshop.

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Like daffodils in motherfucking spring.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a sans serif Superman and my only kryptonite is pretentious buzzkills like you.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a force of motherfucking nature and I will not rest until every uptight armchair typographer cock-hat like you is surrounded by my lovable, comic-book inspired, sans-serif badassery.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

extra points

for cock-hat

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I am reminded

that I once had an IBM manual that purported to be written in “San Serif, California”.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Clips get at least two years of Paul, per Marc Stein.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

In case you were wondering what the soccer crowd thinks

MLS_Analyst: Chris Paul has the same degenerative knee condition that just forced Brandon Roy to retire. And the Clips gave up a buttload for him. Hmm.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

In case you were wondering what the TV critic crowd thinks:

sepinwall:<blockquote>Even without Gordon, this is still the best Clips roster ever, right? Better even than the Manning/Harper/C. Smith team?</blockquote>d_fienberg:

The Clippers are overpaying for Chris Paul. Potentially hugely overpaying. Glad it makes David Stern happy.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I’m seeing a lot more backlash than celebration on the twitter

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You should follow more/different people.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Soccer tweeters live in their own world

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Soccer tweakers too

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Though I have to say Clipper Nation is none to happy at the moment because they didn’t feel we needed to capitulate.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The difference between having Paul and Gordon only only Paul is so large, it certainly mitigates the euphoria.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

it would for me – I love Gordon

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

But what about the difference between having Paul and not having Paul? That seems to be discounted.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, which is why I’m still on board but is this a team that can go deep in the playoffs without Gordon? Can Billups handle the 2? Our front court depth has been compromised. This should be a better team in 2012 but it is only a 66 game season and they still aren’t going to be good enough to contend.

By 2013 they would have a top five draft pick in a loaded draft, another year of growing for Griffin, Gordon, Jordan, Aminu and whatever we traded Kaman for.

Without Gordon still on the team I’m not sure this was anything more then a wash when you consider everything else they gave up. And a wash who could walk in two years.

It will certainly sell a lot of tickets and I wonder if the Clippers did not capitulate so they did not have to refund all the season tickets they sold a few days ago when they told the buyers that Chris Paul was going to be on the team?

Anyway they still have to build a team after the holes of Kaman, Gordon, Aminu. How they do that will be interesting. I’m excited but torn.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you about Gordon. If they could have managed to get Paul AND keep Gordon, that would have been amazing.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

get Paul AND keep Gordon, that would have been amazing.

Where almost amazing happens until we fuck with the trades and then only mildly interesting happens and you are left with one deal that is not longer quite amazing and a broken deal with a bunch of disgruntled fans of the most popular team in your league all feeling shafted

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

when is Gordon a free agent? :)

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

So Neville Chamberlain is your GM

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Does that make Gordon the Rhineland

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Everbody on the Clippers

is France

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we even say who Stern is in this passion play of sorts?

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If they had extended Gordon

Don’t know if Stern does that deal.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

especially if the Clippers could’ve signed him at the end of the season without giving up any assets.

by ishXdavid on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless a sign and trade happened I doubt they get him without trading for him (and I guess a sign and trade is technically a trade).

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Laker fans look back in a few years

and show that maybe the czar of the NBA did us a favor voiding the first trade?

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

stranger (cue Billy Joel and Dave’s left hand) things have happened

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

The Lakers are going to be bad this year, but maybe it causes Buss to go after Deron Williams and/or Dwight Howard in the offseason.

by ishXdavid on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are we going to be bad? People seem to forget how good we were for most of last year. We still have a really good team that will probably finish top 4 in the conference. That’s not “bad”.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Overreaction and hyperbole

thanks to being spoiled by multiple championships and acquiring supremely talented players seemingly at will. I expect a good year from the purple and gold; not sure if they’re trophy worthy now.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Same team

Better Bynum, older Kobe

I’ve always been a fan of Bynum’s talents, I think he can play a full healthy season like he did against Dallas, he will make up for the difference between Odom/McRoberts. Losing Shannon Brown will mean something. The long rest for Kobe could mean great things but the condensed schedule can’t be good for his old knees.

Gasol better come ready to play. Hard

For the second time ever we might finally have a Staples rivalry that will shake the tunnels.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

no Odom

they traded him for “nothing”

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

i think he meant

that McRoberts is an obivious step down from Odom, but a healthy Bynum could pick up that slack.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

missed that part

was skimming, woops

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

/4down’d

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

They call it a 4down special

Or they would if they talked about it

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 14, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been looking forward to a legit Lakers-Clippers rivalry

since the 2006 squad led by Elton Brand kinda disappeared from relevance.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m fine with the Odom/McRoberts change. I loved Odom half the time but I hated him when he started pouting and just completely disappeared from games.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I love LO

Will miss him greatly. All the same, he wanted to be traded after being blindsided by the nixed CP3 deal, so best of luck to him. Then again, why did we see the need to send him to the defending world champs? Just wondering…

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

1. Pouting sucks in this NBA business world. Odom didn’t shed any tears for the fans or management when he left the Clippers in the first place, pouting over almost being traded is so baby like that I don’t blame Mitch for dumping him.
2. However trading him to the Mavericks, WTH

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry for the delayed reply

We’re going to be “bad” as in bad by Lakers standards. We should be a top 4 seed in the playoffs, but we are not a championship contender. Sorry if this reeks of arrogance, but simply being a playoff team is not good enough for the Lakers. Ostensibly, we have the same cast of players minus our most versatile player, Odom, who was our glue-guy providing continuity between the first and second units, as well as our big and small line-ups. We’re going to be relying heavily on Andrew Bynum’s health, whose history only proves that his health can’t be relied upon. He’s not injury-prone so much as he’s accident-prone, which is a whole hell of a lot more unpredictable. We have a brand new coach with practically no preseason time to get the team acclimated to his system, if he has one. There’s all this talk about how Brown will be instituting a Spurs-type offense, but we’ll see how long it takes the team to get up to speed.

Kobe is still Kobe, but he has definitely lost a step. It no longer takes an elite defender to slow him down one-on-one, nor should he draw triple-teams anymore. He’ll still draw double-teams, but the Lakers have only added one shooter in Jason Kapono this offseason, and we’re not sure how much time he’ll get on the floor. As far as I know, we’re still starting Derek Fisher at the 1, which doesn’t sit well. Ron Artest still can’t jump over a phonebook, and his jump shot is unreliable. Optimistically, I don’t expect Pau to play like he did in last year’s playoffs because the team is going to have to rely on him more than ever.

Put it this way… Bynum has to have a career year. He’s getting paid max money, and he’s yet to earn it. The Lakers near-future hinges on Bynum. If Bynum suffers another injury, it will drastically submarine his trade value. Bynum’s peak has to start now if the Lakers are going to benefit from Bynum’s and Pau’s peaks coinciding with the tail-end of Kobe’s.

by ishXdavid on Dec 15, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the MLS_Analyst is full of shit. JMO

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Love this quote

from Wojnarowski:

When asked if deal sending Chris Paul to LAC for Gordon, Aminu, Kaman and pick had league approval, source says: “The league made deal.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

I am stunned we gave in and gave up both after having lucked into Billups. A part of bummed that we lose Gordon and the pick, a part of me is wildly excited to see what the second best point guard in the NBA can do with what remains on the team.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

2nd best?

Who be the shit then?

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I’m a huge Deron Williams fan, and D Rose can’t be far behind in his conversation.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

D Rose is very fun to watch

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Paul as pure point better than either

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you be right.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

CP3 and D-Will are interchangeable at the top spot for PGs. Not on the Rose bandwagon, but I admit he’s a talented kid and fun to watch. Rondo is up there, too. As a pure distributor who thinks “pass” first and “shoot” second, I like CP3 the most. JMO.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Really? I think Rose may be the best all around player in the NBA right now, or at the very least

top 3. but yeah, as “pure point” Paul and Williams are terrific. Rose is just all-world imho.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

David Stern

better GM than Commissioner

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

From Danny Knobler

of CBS Sports:

Still don’t know what the number of winning bid for Darvish was, but sources say the Fighters were very excited by how high it was

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

1 million dollars.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

only team known for sure

is the Yankees

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

10 million hams to fight.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't care how wrong I am
the Fighters

No. I will call them the Ham Fighters until the day I die.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Report is

Clippers went from 50-1 to 15-1 to win the NBA title.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

He was assured he was not going to be traded and that he was an important part of the future just two days ago.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

but we decry players when they don’t show loyalty and give hometown discounts

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i always laugh when I hear that

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

like Bob Costas and Mitch Williams

criticizing Pujols for leaving the fans in St. Louis. Pujols was underpaid for a decade.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

How was he “underpaid”? Sure he would have made more money on the open market, but he signed that contract and took the security that came with it, which also has value. I pity neither side for that deal.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

underpaid according to the value he provided

Of course I don’t pity him, he was not a serf or anything. But he had the right to leave and seek the best deal, and I have NO PITY for the Cards fans cos they got his best years and 2 championships.

The Cards could have been proactive and not let him go to free agency, I mean they had the opportunity as it was becoming obvious he was an all-time great. But they are not a big revenue team, and he had a right to get the best deal after inferior 1B like Howard got more money. He didn’t owe anything more to those fans.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with any of that, just the notion that he was “underpaid”.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell, we’d all like to get shafted like that!

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I am surprisingly angry

about this whole NBA thing right now

I am nearly pissed off….I’d call it strongly irritated

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

I am wildly amused

since I don’t care if the whole phony outfit folds up like a cheap card table

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to be where you are

I thought I would be there already

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, Im not angry, just dissapointed. Dissapointed because we had a deal that NBA rejected. But Congrats to the Clips, they gave up a ton, I think their offer was better then ours long term, so Stern ended up smart in the whole thing.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

But whats weird to me, is lost in the whole obession in getting Chris Paul, im surprised in the lack of being worried about Pauls knee. I had no idea its the same thing that Roy retired from, only difference is he had it in both knees, Paul had it in one. But nobody was worried about this? Is this a normal thing in the NBA, and not really a major concern?

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

that's where I am

it’s really stupid, but congrats for the Clips.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here

Clipper Nation has reason to celebrate: they acquired arguably the best point guard in the game. Hornets fans get a damn good two guard in Gordon, a SF with good upside in Aminu, and a chance at a true rebuilding game. Laker Nation…well, we still got Kobe!

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

and Pau and Bynum.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you

Trying to stay rational through all this: it’s ridiculous, and I’m just a fan! Can’t imagine what LO, EJ and the actual players have to go through.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

To bad the Lakers traded Odom, I think he’d have made a great partner in a Mo for Odom deal.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

Ha ha, Clippers get two future second round picks back. Why bother

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

Nick van Exel pwns.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that happens so often. What, no Arenas photo?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Those 2 – 2nd round picks could be high 2nd round picks in a deep draft though.

by uschris0304 on Dec 14, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

PRobably 2019 and 2020

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

basketball is weird

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Be start watching now, though

They won’t have any more games after December of next year.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Could get used to this

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:46 PM PST reply actions  

D Wade reaction

DwyaneWade Dwyane Wade
Imma get @DWRIGHTWAY1 a " Watch your head" tee for christmas. L2MS..that’s the Cp3 to Blake and Deandre jordan effect..
13 minutes ago

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The amount of alley-oops in Clippers games next year will probably break records.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Vinny del Negro must be ecstatic

He won’t need to call offensive plays ever: just throw it near the rim and watch any of the athletic freaks thrown it down with venom.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I take that back. I read a tweet earlier that I thought said they didn’t bid. Just looked again and saw I was wrong. They DID bid.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought i read the same thing earlier

with the Yankees

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

read a tweet from Passan

that said the Fighters planned to accept the bid no matter how high it was.

/justinterestingtome

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Heyman is saying that it’s a giant bid.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s going to the Giants?

Quick, everyone spread this false rumor!

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Booo.

If I had to guess I’d say Marlins, Cubs or Rangers.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm surprised the Cubs haven't been connected to him more

considering the “lukewarm” interest from the usual suspects in New York and Boston.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I connected them to him earlier this thread :)

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

just read on MLBTR

Dodger are interested in Coco Crisp to play LF

………………zah?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

Another player I wanted in 2008-2009

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

At this rate I just know he’s going to sign Hermida

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

also read

10 teams are interested in Luke Scott

only one named was the Orioles

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

so many OFs

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really understand that at all.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

THERE IS NO LOGIC!!!!!

/jumpsoutwindow

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This offseason has been rather fascinating and confusing, so nothing is off the table.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

so then

my conspiricy theory about us getting Darvish and packaging Billz and Dre for Votto isn’t crazy?

/sofakingcrazy

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

No, that’s batshit insane. :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank You! :)

also, MLBN just said the teams that bid were the Blue Jays, Yankees, Rangers, and Cubs, so my guess is silverwidow is right.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

This offseason has been rather fascinating and confusing, so nothing is off the table.

Except, you know, Fielder, or somebody who would actually help the team.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

We have been assured by at least one poster that Fielder will be our starting 1st baseman.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I'll bite

If Fielder is the Dodgers’ starting first baseman, then would that make this offseason’s moves suddenly all make sense?

I say no, but what do I know? Nothing, that’s what.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if it’s a two-year deal.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Backloaded in a 1:2 ratio.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Marlins did not bid on Darvish

Yankees bid is said to be “modest” while the winning bid is “sky high”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

Mariners.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

a guess.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Nationals

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to the party, pal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

/highfive

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

HITNG

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Both of these were way too good.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

sheesh Ned, if you want an outfielder

how about someone like Beltran, who’s actually an upgrade.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

The weird thing about a Crisp deal, assuming he would be the regular LF, is that the 5 guys on the bench (Rivera, Hairston, Gwynn, Kennedy, Treanor) would likely make more ($8.75 million total) than the 7-man bullpen in 2012.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

nice logic but,

Ned seems to prefer quantity over quality.

by jrock247 on Dec 14, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

he is dumbpants

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I laughed at the Walmart commercial with the guy playing “Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer,” only to find his wife’s mom sitting in the corner of the room in a cast, saying “I had the right of way.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

it’s a good one

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul to Clips is official.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:31 PM PST reply actions  

Is the circle full yet?

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

No, but the circle has been fully jerked.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

[jerking off motion]

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

[double dutch rudders]

by jrock247 on Dec 14, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The two second rounders to the Clips are 2015 picks

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember, it’s Clippers we’re talking about. They’ll still be high picks. Even CP3 and Blake can’t overcome Donald (West Coast version).

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers record won’t affect those picks, as they are from New Orleans (not sure where the second pick is coming from)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops…read that wrong…thought they were picks the Clips gave up.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

dickwad

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats Clips fans

I hope his knees hold up for ya. I have always loved watching him and admired his moxie and talent, would have been sweet to see him in purple and gold.

Hornets did get a great deal.

Here’s to D Howard coming our way by March! I originally wanted him more than anyone, so it would be an incredible move to get a foundational piece to build around. I have a feeling Kobe really wanted Paul and would feel more threatened with the team being centered around ANOTHER Orlando big man.

But I’m getting to the point where I give fuck-all what Kobe thinks.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

today

has not been so good in terms of my teams : /

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Asdrubal Cabrera number 3? My ass.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say – who was above them?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ian Kennedy was number one

guess he had to win something…..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously Gaslamp Ball had a vote.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

You bet your Cabrerass.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’ve already won a Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger, how much of a breakout can it be?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What?! NO SCOTT ELBERT??!!!

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect Donald Sterling to thank Fox

for the soon to be 2 billion dollar/20 year deal with the Clippers.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2011 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

After he thanks Stern you mean? ;)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Luxury Tax, I’ll give you Luxury Tax

Shocking not one comment over the past week on SB Nation about how much Chris Paul probably just put in DTS’s pocket. Everyone was worried about how were they going to pay everyone without out going over the Luxury Tax. The same way Dr. Buss will be doing it.

You want to see rating, the CLips / Lakers rating for this year should be through the roof.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrapping up from earlier this week

Monday is the Lakers home game, Wednesday is the Clippers home game in their home-and-home preseason affairs. Both televised locally and nationally (on NBA TV)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

Btw, group hug everyone. Interesting thread. Everyone is amazing, no one is wrong, here's to happier weeks ahead for all of us...

and now go listen to Louis CK interview on Fresh Air (from yesterday) because it’s great.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

Except you. You suck.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

(Tebow delirium)

:)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

{bows to Jesus}

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

take it to the camaraderie thread

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, sorry, I'm in the wrong room. This is abuse.

Where’s the argument thread?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I seriously can't wrap my head around this

Ned has clearly come unhinged. There is just no way it makes any sense, unless he just assumes everyone is going to be injured all the time no matter what. I just don’t get it at all anymore.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

do you think he’s trying to get fired?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

he's trying to make me drink

and I only had one tall can……

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he's bored

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah hah, I read that as "boned"

which is more accurate about what Ned is.

He’s a lame duck GM. Trying to go out in a blaze of glory but instead it’s a flicker of meh.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2012 Dodgers: A flicker of meh

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s Cuckoo…

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

unhinged....good word to describe it.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be trying to trade Andre, signing Crisp helps fill the void if he’s successful. What other possible motive could he have for being interested in Crisp?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

again

why not someone like Beltran, who is a much better hitter?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Difference in salaries.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

i feel like strangling

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

trade andre for what though?

a first baseman? A reliever? We have 5 starters. For prospects(LOL)?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

for Votto

we’re getting Darvish

/batshitinsane

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

like it’ll ever happen

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Who would not do that in a jiminy second?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

count the wars

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 14, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t play WAR

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

you think the Reds would?

serious question

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No, they would be idiots

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Seeing Kevin Gross fight Jim Leyland is awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 7:36 PM PST reply actions  

or that catcher (can't remember his name)

punch Dykstra in the face

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

and Chad Krueter have murderous rage in his eyes when he choked that fan.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Josh Willingham

may have had the quietest 29 home run season last year.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

In Oakland. That translates to about 92 homers everywhere else haha

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 14, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Kemp just tweeted that the holidays are the worst time to be single. He needs a hug.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

i'll give him a fist bump

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

How the hell is Kemp single?

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 14, 2011 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s been busy hitting home runs

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The same reason Derek Jeter is?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Ran out of autographed baseballs to send home with the ladies?

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That comment made me chuckle coming from your handle. ;)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m starting to do this one hundred pushups thing. I am incredibly weak, could only manage 13 push ups.

The site promises by six weeks from now I should be able to do 100 pushups in a row.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Sounds like you are to weak in the beginning to make it to 100. That is alot to go from 13 to 100. You will double fairly easy, should make it to 50, maybe 65, if you can get to 80 in six weeks, color me impressed.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it will probably take me longer, but at least I’ll be doing some sort of exercise.

I figure doing some sort of exercise is good for my shoulders which are pretty fucked up. I’ve always had a really weak upper body, but I used to be able to do like 35 in a row in high school when I was in shape. Those days are long-gone.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

i might try this

I would love to tone my chest up

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

This is Maddz

I actually did some of that a few years ago and it was really helpful.

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

my problem is keeping up with it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Just did my pushups. Feeling it on my chest and in the right places, so at least my form isn’t terrible.

I think I can keep it up if only because my mom is shaming me by doing her exercises every other day for three months AND eating healthy for the past two months — even on Thanksgiving.

So I have to keep up with my mom.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess if anyone is shaming me

it’s my youngest brother. Little jerk is in great shape, and he knows it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d love to do something like this but I have a bad lower back (mostly muscle issues but part of it is my spine). I’m worried I’d actually do more harm than good. I should probably consult a trainer.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing thing is it seems 50% including my Clipper partner are against the deal. So here was a fanpost that I thought was useful.
http://www.clipsnation.com/2011/12/14/2637438/bryon-russell-and-the-clippers-hole-at-the-2-guard

Among those still having a hard time being happy on perhaps the greatest day in Clippers franchise history, a lot is being made of the “hole” that the trade of Eric Gordon has created at the shooting-guard spot. Obviously, the hole isn’t really that big a hole, since it will be filled by Chauncey Billups, who played the spot early in his career and, more recently, on America’s FIBA World Championship team in 2010. But what if, instead, we were forced to play Randy Foye at that spot. That would put us right back in the lottery, right?
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Um … no. That’s the beauty of having 2 superstars on your roster — the best PG/PF tandem since John Stockton and Karl Malone. That duo made 3 straight Western Conference finals and 2 straight NBA finals. And starting alongside them at the height of their powers, averaging 30+ minutes a game for six straight seasons, was none other than Bryon Russell, whose career PER of 12.6 is half a point lower than Randy Foye’s (13.1).
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Bottom line: Having 2 elite players can cover a multitude of sins. And having a starting lineup of Paul/Billups/Butler/Griffin/Jordan should be enough to take us very far this year, health williing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

I take it you’re high on the deal. Were I a Clipper fan I certainly would be.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

fixed
I take it you’re high on the deal. Were I a Clipper fan I certainly would be.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I assumed that was a given.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

the best PG/PF tandem since John Stockton and Karl Malone.

Griffin needs to do more before he’s even close to being in that conversation. He’s exciting to watch and all but he still needs to improve on a number of things.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a Clipper fan post. They can exxagerate; hell, what else are they going to do?

I actually like Griffin; it will be cool to see him grow into a great player. I love his attitude.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope he isn’t on the healthy every other year plan that most good young Clippers go on. #Livingston

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Griffin and honestly have no animosity for the Clippers (I have mostly ignored the team and felt bad for their fans over the last 20 years). I hope Griffin becomes an all-time great and I actually hope the Clippers become a top team. I’d love for that rivalry (Lakers/Clippers)to actually have something behind it.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not the one saying it, but I’ve heard from plenty of people they feel they are the best PG/PF tandem since them. BG and Malone were two totally different type of PF, Malone did things Griffin will never do, and BG has already done things Malone could never do. Doesn’t seem like an apt comparison to me.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard a lot of people say it which is the only reason I spoke up.

Off the top of my head I can probably come up with a number of duo’s better.

Rondo(not a fan of his)/Garnett (he’s that damn good he boosts the duo high)
Parker / Duncan
Williams/Boozer (I like Williams as much as any PH in the league and Boozer was somewhat underrated there) In a few years Griffin will blow by Boozer but right now they are somewhat equal).
Nash / Staudamire

Did Jason Kidd ever play with a real good PF? Drawing a blank with him.

Now I’m not saying these guys are a lot better or anything and this isn’t really directed at you. I’ve just seen a lot of people talking up this duo as the next great duo and nobody else is close. I take issue with that general sentiment.

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just glad it’s on record that I became a Clipper fan before this trade :)

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

new thread? please?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

Coming soon, to a browser near you.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

A new post. An new chance. A new world.

/Morgan Freeman’d

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 14, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

danke

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They can read?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

They can only read every fifth word.

by fbihop on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, they can read. They just don’t know how to vote.

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

We have wasted 6 or 7 comments in this thread talking about that crappy site.

Arguing over fat cousins was a better waste of time!

by VegasBlues on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

How many people got banned this thread?

by Xeifrank on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s Christmas; Eric’s trying to be good.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Every single day, I have the following schedule:

1. Wake up
2. Do unspeakable things to Bride
3. Wonder if today is the day that I get banned
4. Go take care of the screaming Folly

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

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