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NL West Adds Offense, Dodgers Add John Grabow

John Grabow once allowed a home run to Juan Uribe.

It has been a busy few days for the National League West, as the division has seen an infusion of offense with three recent transactions.

On Friday, the Colorado Rockies agreed to terms with outfielder Michael Cuddyer on a three-year deal believed to be worth $31.5 million. The folks at Purple Row have more details here and here. Cuddyer hit .284/.346/.459 with 20 home runs in 139 games for the Minnesota Twins, pretty similar to his production over the last five years.

This morning, the Arizona Diamondbacks have reportedly agreed to a two-year, $15 million deal with fellow former Twin Jason Kubel, per SB Nation Arizona. This move was a surprise, especially given the breakout year of defensive wizard Gerardo Parra last season. Unless Kubel plans to play a lot of first base, platooning with Paul Goldschmidt, Parra figures to lose a lot of playing time in 2012.

Like Parra, Seth Smith seems like the odd man out in Colorado with the Cuddyer signing. Those two could be dangled for pitching help.

But the big move of the weekend was the trade between the San Diego Padres and Cincinnati Reds. The Padres sent their ace Mat Latos, coming off back-to-back superb seasons, to Cincinnati for a loaded package featuring first baseman Yonder Alonso, catcher Yasmani Grandal, starting pitcher Edinson Volquez, and longtime character actor Bruce Boxleitner pitcher Brad Boxberger.

With the addition of offense into the division, the Dodgers went the other way on Monday, agreeing to terms on a minor league deal with left-handed relief pitcher John Grabow, per Tim Dierkes of MLB Trade Rumors. Grabow, 33, was 3-1 with a 4.76 ERA in 62 innings for the Chicago Cubs last season, and had a strikeout rate (5.49 per nine innings) below seven for the first time in his eight-year major league career. Left-handed batters have hit .262/.329/.385 off Grabow in his career.

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At this point I would give the MVP to Kemp. There is no precedent for this situation, now would be a good time to start one.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:04 AM PST reply actions

Might as well. I’d be fine with it.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

Grabow is another player who was good in 2008. Is Ned in a time machine?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

Garret Atkins is next

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

People I had forgotten about for $600, Alex

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take “An Album Cover,” Trebek!

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Next up: Brandon Webb, Carlos Delgado, Kenji Johjima NRIs

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I think 2006 was the year the marlins had like 6 guys get RoY votes.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Hanley

Uggla, Willingham, Josh Johnson, Sanchez, Scott Olsen (maybe).

That team seemed stacked (as did the 2006 Dodgers, might I add), and Girardi set the pitching staff back 3 or 4 seasons with his mismanagement.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

can we send him back

to the dark ages?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

The title made me laugh

The article made me sad

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 9:09 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

if you switch it around

i read it as the NL West getting more offense by the Dodgers adding Grabow…

by mintxcore on Dec 19, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I will say that for all the mediocrity that Ned has signed this off season, not sure why a minor league deal for John Grabow

is causing Keith law to rupture in particular. A two year Major League deal would’ve caused me to rupture. This is {shrugs}

I sure would like me some Seth Smith but don’t see a trade fit with the Rockies.

Not sure I get the Kubel signing in AZ either.

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 9:11 AM PST reply actions  

Snarkers gonna snark.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not a story if you get arrested for public urination.

It’s a story if you get arrested for public urination for the 68th time.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

true, but this feels more like peeing in the alley.

/pee metaphors FTW

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

This isn’t even public urination. This is giving a speech, in public, about urinating in one’s shower. It makes you wonder about the dude — why he’d pee in his shower, and why he’d give a speech about it — but at the end of the day, who cares?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Kerry Wood might disagree.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

grabow

is a lefty reliever signing to try to become the lefty speciality who isnt particularly any good at getting lefties out..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

What’d he say?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 9:18 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

KLaw:

[don’t disagree with it and the last one made me laugh, but just seems odd to be remarking so much on a minor lg signing]

keithlaw @keithlaw 39m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Another nedulous signing. RT @mlbtraderumors: Dodgers Sign John Grabow bit.ly/uQB6x7 #mlb

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@MikeSciosciasTI Agreed. Just kind of fits the pattern of their underwhelming offseason, except he didn’t give Grabow two years.
Colletti signed Grabow because an anonymous user wrote “Once played for the San Francisco Giants” on Grabow’s Wikipedia page

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

lefty specialist who has allowed a .700 oOPS in his career..NRI so whatever, but he’s flat out not good. Only evidence you’ll ever need to prove he’s not good: Cubs gave him a multiyear deal.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t see much improvement for the Rockies or Diamondbacks in the addition of Cuddyer over Smith or Kubel over Parra.

The Padre/Red deal at the moment looks good for both teams. Reds get what could be a key piece to a post season run without giving up anyone who was significant to the 2011 team. Padres get a current 1st baseman, future catcher, bullpen arm(and we know what padres do with bullpen arms), and someone who will slot right into the current rotation.

While the Reds will be done with Latos, this gives the Padres the ability to move Rizzo, Jesus Guzman, Blanks, and Hundley for more parts. Alonzo looks like a Loney clone, in that he should produce 40 – 50 doubles, 10 – 15 home runs.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

great japanese/iranian pitcher or greatest japanese/iranian pitcher

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

No love for Bobby here? C’mon!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I thought this was fake for a second

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 9:26 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Padre Lineup:
Alonzo
Hudson
Bartlett
Headley
Hundley
Venerable/Denorfia
Maybin
Cast of thousands

Doesn’t look that bad to me compared to
Loney
Ellis
Gordon
Uribe
AJ Ellis
Andre
Kemp
Rivera

Best player for both teams is the CF and we have the huge advantage there, a slight advantage in RF, they have advantages at catcher, 3rd base, 2nd base. The difference between last place and contending is a MVP center fielder.

Something tells that when a team does not exercise their reasonable financial option on a pitcher, and the competition scoops him up, that the competition will learn why said team had no interest.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

The difference between last place and contending is a MVP center fielder

And a pitching staff

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Once upon a time the Los Angeles Dodgers could boast a rotation that our appears would envy, that is no longer the case. If any other team besides the Dodgers had a rotation of Billingsley, Lilly, Capuano, and Harang, Dodger fans would be laughing at them.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

a) OK
b) I can’t tell if you are leaving out Kershaw for a reason; take out anyone’s best pitcher and see how their staff looks
c) No

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

OK No is a great album.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

All the synchronized treadmilling and shit.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps, but I am thinking this is still a top 10 NL pitching staff.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Such great heights.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

An ace, an enigma, and the three old wiseman

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

and we have the cover of the 2012 Media Guide! :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Re-Armed, Reloaded, and Retired.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

It was top 3 in the NL two years ago

It was top 5 at worst in 2011, possibly top 3, and I think they will have no problem being top 5 again (at worst) in 2012.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Really top Five?

Better then the:
Giants, Diamondbacks, Braves, Phillies, Reds, Cardinals, Brewers, Marlins, and even Nationals?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Keep in mind 4Down lives in a world where Chad Billingsley is a great pitcher.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

You live in your horribly depressing fantasy world, I’ll live in the world where Chad has had 4 full seasons as a starter putting up fWARs of 4.4, 3.1, 4.5, and 2.1. He just came off a not good year, though still productive overall. He is what, 27? If he can’t come back to a 4+ fWAR year, or at least 3+, then i’ll stop calling him someone who has the ability to be a great pitcher.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

he's a good pitcher

with the potential to be great. i agree with Bobby

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Phillies and Giants clearly are above the rest

I think each team has a good chance to be in the top 5 besides those 2, including the Dodgers.

Braves – Hanson is very good, but he hasn’t put it together to be a real leader of that staff yet. Everyone else is pretty much really young, so while it’s full of incredible potential, it’s not quite there yet.

Dbacks – Last year showed it’s going to be a really good staff, but I’d count on some regression from Kennedy at the top, Hudson to be about the same (which was really good), then everyone else to be around average to below average. Cahill could do well, but in Arizona I see his ERA rising and his HRs going up for sure.

Reds – Cueto was really good in only 156 innings last year, and Latos had a near 4 fWAR season, but outside of those two no one has really been better than average the last 2 seasons, save Travis Wood, who had a worse year last year than the one before.

Cardinals – They will have their 1-2 punch of Wainwright and Carpenter back, and with a good Jaime Garcia as well they could certainly be the 3rd best staff in the NL, with Loshe having an above average comeback season and Shelby Miller possibly coming up middle of the season, but hard to expect much out of him as a rookie.

Marlins – If Johnson is healthy, they will have a great ace heading up the rotation, with several solid to good pitchers behind him with Sanchez, Nolasco, and Buehrle. I see their rotation ending up middle of the pack, closer to the top, but not top 5.

Nationals – They will primarily be relying on Zimmermann and Strasburg, but both have very good potential, with Strasburgs being that of one of the best pitchers in baseball, and outside of those two you’ve got the solid john lannan, then the young Ross Detwiler, and it looks like Jason Marquis. If Strasburg reaches his highest potential I could see this rotation being another top 5 and also top heavy, but with just an all-star season from him I see them being lower down.

Brewers – Gallardo and Greinke are the ones with ace potential, and Marcum is a good 3 pitcher. Gallardo has the same problem Kershaw had before this year, which is that he walks way too many hitters. Add to that his 1.17 HR/9 rate in 2011, and he becomes a good pitcher with greater potential, but held back both those two problems. I see this as an above average rotation, but as of 2012, not great.

Dodgers – Only the Phillies and Giants have one pitcher better than Kershaw (2 in the Phillies case), and at this point I could only see Strasburg being as good as Kershaw in 2012 besides the ones from the Giants and Phillies. Then you take Billingsley, who’s numbers are fluctuating every year back and forth except for his strikeout rate which has been dropping just about every year. As you know I think he will rebound in a big way in 2012, and that will be a big factor in whether or not the Dodger rotation is good, great, or around average. For the Dodgers rotation to look good or better, Kershaw and Billingsley will have to be an awesome 1-2 combo, with Lilly, Harang, and Capuano all being average to below average.

My best guess for rotations:

1. Phillies
2. Giants
3. Cardinals
4. Braves
5. Dodgers
6. Marlins
7. Brewers
8. Dbacks
9. Reds
10. Nationals

If Billingsley doesn’t turn it around, Dodgers drop to about 8 or 9.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

who is this giants pitcher that is better than kershaw?

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Current time, Kershaw was definitely better than Lincecum in 2011

It’s hard to deny Lincecum>Kershaw overall without Kershaw having another year better than Lincecum.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Lincecum has already peaked, and yes Kershaw has passed him by and is better.

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Kershaw is the best pitcher in the NL. There is no one better.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 19, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Trust me, I’d love to just agree with that, but Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, and Tim Lincecum have been pitching at elite levels for years. Lincecum is the best case for Kershaw being better than of the 3, as he hasn’t had higher than a 5 fWAR season since 2009, but you can’t ignore those 2 elite seasons and his last two all-star level seasons.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

who cares about “Since 2009” when you are talking about 2012 rotations?

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

For a guy as young as Lincecum

He should be able to be at that level again in the next couple of years, though i’d be thrilled if he never was again.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

he will be 28 this season. for him to become 2009 Lincecum is going to be hard to do.

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

He is just as good over the last 2 and younger

If I have to choose between any of them, I’m taking Kershaw hands down, but yeah, they where all pretty close the last couple.

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by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He's actually been better by a good margin the last two years

The problem is Lincecum was better than almost everyone the 2 years before that. One more year of Kershaw>Lincecum and i’m absolutely sold.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd take Kershaw 10/10 over Lincecum

and that goes back to 2006 in the draft as well.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know man

If we had lincecum instead, we might have won 2 WS.

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by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t wait to hear this virgin discussion.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

oh you

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by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

no, i don't believe that at all.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

you must have missed the part where lincecum won 2 cy youngs

while kershaw was still finding his way

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by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

yes but timeh alone

with the teams we had in 2008 and 2009 and 2010… we still would not have won.

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by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

besides

past be the past and Kersh>>>>Timeh now

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by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2008 and 2009 teams were in the NLCS. Lincecum easily could have made a difference.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

I don’t see how this is even a conversation. Not only would he have helped in the playoffs, but he would have saved the bullpen a lot of wear and tear throughout the regular season (Fuck You Joe Torre).

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I’d trade every single prospect we’ve developed in the last 10 years for 1 world series appearance.

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

timeh

has really taken a step back, or a step higher if you will

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by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably right, I am trying to think who is going to be clearly better at this moment. Phillies, Giants and after that I think it gets pretty debateable.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

DBacks added Cahill
Reds added Latos
Cardinals add Wainwright and eventually Shelby Miller next summer
Marlins added Buehle to a possible healthy Josh Johnson
Nat’s get a full year of Zimmerman and Strasburgh

Dodger lost Kuroda and Rubby
added Capang

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

What a gut punch Rubby was. I really wish we hadn’t lost him.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

It sucks that Rubby probably won’t come back as a starter.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That seems presumptuous.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

He is blocked by the Capang:)

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you mean in 2012, or ever?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

2012, easily.

2013, I could see him back in the minors as the on-call guy instead of being back in the rotation ASAP.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

If the team is in contention and somehow the pitching rotation is intact, he will probably pitch out of the bullpen. If they are like the Nationals of 2011, he will make some starts.

By 2013 if the arm is the same, he’s the number two starter on the Dodgers.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

OK, I misread your comment. I thought you meant, “When he comes back, he’ll be a reliever.” I suppose that could happen, at least initially, when he first gets his feet wet in the majors again, but I gotta assume that the long term thought is for him to start games in LA. Whether that happens in 2012, from the beginning of 2013, or later in 2013, I dunno.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we’ll see him in the pen by September. But for ‘13, who knows. It’d be nice if someone was traded to make room for him in the starting 5.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

If we are worried about having to trade someone to make room for Rubby in the rotation then 2012 will have been a very very very good year.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t that essentially the Padres last year, just with a better 1 starter than Bills would have been going in? (even though Bills had a better year in 2010, Latos just looked like he did).

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

who did they replace Harang with?

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Cory Luebke? Dustin Moseley?

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

so, at minimum they get similar productivity for free

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That describes every time the Padres lose a non-Latos pitcher.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Kemp will probably out WAR that whole lineup. I’d bet he did last year.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Well he would have if it wasn’t for Nick Hundley of all people.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Killer 2nd half

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Hundley is due for some serious regression. Look at his BABIP last year.

by BFDC on Dec 19, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking AJ Ellis will be an OBP machine this year: .260/.380/.350

This is pretty nice for a a GREAT defensive catcher.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

great is giving him a ton of credit. He’s good, but he’s not Yadier. He’s solid, won’t embarrass himself, but he’s not going to be the reason guys don’t run on Ted Lilly.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

butttt

we’re not competing with the madres for anything. if we end up with a worse record then them… i dont know how depressed ill be

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by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

if you’re not first, you’re last. What does it matter who came in 4th?

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Sherlock Holmes was fun, better then the first.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

I was thinking it looked better

Makes me want to see it, if not just for the Dark Knight Rises trailer with it.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Very little Batman in the trailer. Very little Catwoman.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

How much Bane?

How much Conrad Bane?

How much Brooks Conrad?

How much Brooks from The Shawshank Redemption?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I just saw the TDKR trailer and oddly I am coming away a little non-plussed by it. I mean it looks like it is going to be pretty epic, but I am not yet super hyped about it.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

wait till 2012 movie season starts

Spiderman, Avengers, Batman!!!!

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, I am pumped.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I just watched the new batman trailer

Looks epic! I’ve heard some theories, and the previews make it seem like they could be true that bruce wayne might end up dying in this movie and someone else taking up the mantle of batman.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The trailer is definitely intriguing and I’m sure the movie will bring the goods, I’m just not there yet to being hyped about it. Avengers on the other hand . . .

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh My!

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How old are you?

by berkowit28 on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hypothetical movie question

Could you get arrested for having sex with Jennifer Garner’s adult body character in 13 Going On 30?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

22

Not 21, KeithC :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

My fault sir. You comment like a damn 21 yr old some times.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

having thought I was a mature 22 year old, i can say in full confidence that there is no such thing as a mature 22 year old.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope not

a mature 22 year old would be a bore

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Consider me shocked

Martha, it’s the big one!

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought of your wife during two different commercials I saw for movies this weekend. I don’t remember the titles, but they can be summarized as The Zoo Movie (with Matt Damon and Scarlett J) and The Whale Movie (with Jim from The Office).

My level of interest in those movies are something less than zero, while I would imagine your wife will be happily in attendance in the theaters for both films.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Awesoke

Thanks for the short but sweet review. I really want to see that and TinTin

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 9:38 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Bride and I are watching the BBC Sherlock series, which stars somebody named Benedict Cumberbatch, which is an even more ridiculous name than Sherlock Holmes.

The series is good.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Steven Moffat rules.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

iPhone app is funny

It doesn’t show all the comments, so I sometimes see things like this and have no clue as to the context.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 9:58 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Been meaning to check that out

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 9:54 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Can't wait for the next ones!

Martin Freeman makes a great modern day take on Dr Watson.

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

40 years, I can’t take a piss without asking permission.

Oh you said Martin Freeman.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Watched it again last night. Not Forrest Gump.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

One was Tim on the UK office and Arthur Dent in Hitchhiker's.

The other is God!

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Per Arizona radio host John Gambadoro
Dbacks turned their attention to Kubel after Kuroda hesitated on Dbacks offer of $13 million for one year.

Kuroda must really not want to pitch in Arizona. Or perhaps he thinks the Yankees might come calling.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

I also wonder if his intransigence at being traded at the deadline is preventing teams from wanting to roll the dice with him.. if you’re out of the race in July you cant spin him to something useful and you’re on the hook for the rest of the 6m.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say an offer of $13 million is rolling the dice.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

If Kuroda is turning down 13 Million from the Diamondbacks, one has to wonder WTF is he thinking.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no evidence to support this, so this is just a question: was Kuroda’s no-trade clause in 2011 in any way tied to the fact that (1) he took a less-than-market-value contract to return to the Dodgers, and (2) deferred a third of that contract’s payout? Perhaps by paying the entire $13 million up front a team can get Kuroda to waive the no-trade…?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Waive is the wrong word here. Forego it, not insist upon it.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was mostly his concern with not wanting to disturb his family’s lives in LA..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

i don’t think they would have been very disturbed, unless they are emotionally dependent and fragile.

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Also from Gambadoro
Kubel considered the Yankees and Dodgers before deciding on Arizona.

Trying to figure out how the Dodgers are “in” on these guys

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Crisp and now Kubel. Sounds like Ned is still looking for another bat.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't this obvious?

When they sign Loney and Andre, then flip them so they can fit Fielder in, they will need a real left hand bat for the outfield.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t forget, Bills will be in the deal too so the Dodgers have a slot in the rotation in which to fit the returning player.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Core no More

could be the headline of such a deal

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Core No More; Who’s Minding the Store?

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this happened last year

But can you trade a guy after being tendered but before his arb case?

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Rafael Soriano from the Braves to the Rays was an example of this was it not?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Or, you know

Just stick with Sands/Rivera/Kemp with Gwynn backing them up.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 19, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

or he's just a money grubber

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

seems unlikely considering the deal he signed with us last year.

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 7:41 AM PST up reply actions  

ha, I just figured since Ned was doing the 2008/2009 dream team he’d snap him up.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I should read up on the Purple Row stuff but doesn’t Seth Smith have the LF spot and Cuddyer plays 3B?

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

I suppose so. I always forget about Rockies 3B

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

If so, only for a year.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

he has only played 14 games at 3B since 2006

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

FTR – I have heard no talk of him playing 3rd base, Xeifrank mentioning it, is the first I’d heard about the possibility. They do have a plethora of outfield options with Smith, Blackmon, E Young, and Tyler Colvin.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Just to add, you’d think that if Cuddyer could play 3rd base the team with a fairly pathetic group of 3rd baseman since 2006 would have played him there.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

and a decrepit 1B

i see he has “played” a bit of 2B over the years.

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t the Cardinals now have a whole lot of money they can spend?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

The kind of joke I’d expect my 83 year old father to make.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Packs lose
Colts win

Two great storylines bite the dust.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

and the mighty Tebow

Hath fallen

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 10:27 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

2011-2012 NFL Season Week 15

Dream Killer

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t really been in any fights in my life, and I sure as hell haven’t been in any fights that caused a seizure and a concussion, like Penn State QB Matt McGloin.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

That is someone’s head being slamed into something………

by Grimjack on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hypothetical scenario, (though I know the chance are near zero), but what if Ned pulled this off?:

Trade Ethier to Red Sox
Trade Billingsley to anyone

Sign Fielder
Sign Kuroda for 2012, keeping spot warm for Rubby

It’s Monday and 2 days away from taking my vacation, so I dare to dream.

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

I can't see

how that makes the team much better

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well, knowing that 2012 is pretty much a lost cause, we’re playing for 2013 an beyond.

If we think Ethier is walking after this year, we might as well trade him a year early and put us back in play for Fielder.

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I really don't think 2012 is a punted season

It’s not a team built for 95 wins, but 85-88, who knows.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

If you are looking for another bet, I will take the under on 88 wins. Hell, I’ll even throw in the 88th; I will take the under on 87.5 wins.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

This one i'm not nearly as confident on

Alright, 87.5 it is. I was going to ask for 85.5, but screw it, we are going to end up with Kershaw winning his second straight Cy Young, Kemp finishing top 5 in MVP, Ethier finishing top 10, Billingsley winning Comeback Player Of the Year, and Sands getting enough playing time to end up hitting 25 home runs as our starting LF :)

What is the prize of the bet?

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Beer seems good. That way, our two bets can cancel each other out!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

When Uribe is actually the one to win comeback player of the year

for the 75 win Dodgers :P

I’ll have to opt for mikes hard lemonade or some kind of mixed drink, and i’m going to make you buy it and bring it over so everyone will see you holding it! :P

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Uribe’s unglorious past does not make eligible for the comeback player of the year.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

damn, you're right

So it’s Bills’ for sure :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

but what about the 2012 Texas Rangers Award for Near Excellence

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, if 2012 is in play, then do you thinking Fielder would have at least the same impact as Ethier?

If so, I think you trade Ethier – knowing he’ll likely leave after 2012, freeing up his $12 million for Fielder to take in 2012 and a backloaded deal for 2013 and later.

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

If there was a play for Fielder, it would most likely have to involve a trade of both Ethier and Loney for whatever prospects we could get.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, but I think there would be more of a market for Ethier where we could actually get better prospects. Loney would be a tougher trade, but if we’re okay with getting nothing but salary relief, I’d still make the trade.

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Fielder>Ethier by a pretty good margin, at least 1.5-2 wins

But I do see Ethier doing well in 2012.

If you’re signing fielder I’m on board for trading Ethier, I’m just not on board trading a guy who I believe to be a good pitcher with his value the lowest its ever been especially for a guy who won’t likely be here in 2013 and is going to be 38.

But i’m all for the ethier and fielder part

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the way you need to look at it is…

Fielder – Loney
vs
Ethier – Someone like Sands + whatever you got from trading Ethier/Loney.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

we lose that deal once Jim Loney shows up.

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

dare to dream

Go back to sleep.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

been having strange dreams lately. might be all the holiday food.

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked Kuroda, but I think I’d rather have Billingsley going forward despite his struggles last year.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Keep Ethier and trade Loney and it would make a little more sense. Still wouldn’t wants to see Bills go.

by VegasBlues on Dec 19, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

More sense based on positions. None of it would make sense if you look at the money.

by VegasBlues on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

What good would it do to trade Billingsley just to sign Kuroda? I understand they blocked Rubby’s spot for 2013, but hopefully everyone is right when they say Capuano or Harang will not block him from coming back if they are sucking.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

True, just thinking out loud to clear salary space in 2013, with the knowledge you have Rubby, Zach Lee, and Webster coming up.

Plus, I just wanted to see Kuroda pitch for the Dodgers this year.

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Capang makes assloads of money in ‘13 tho. That’s what makes me think they’ll have spots.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting
Buster_ESPN
Most folks guessing/assuming Jays have won Darvish bidding. But just got off the phone with an AL exec who speculates smart $ is on Rangers.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 AM PST reply actions  

I would actually expect it to be the Rangers

What with the whole Wilson/Lee departures, they’re gonna want to bring something back. The Blue Jays already have some good pitching.

/talking out of my ass, too lazy to look up current blue jays staff

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Never count out the Mariners wanting more Japanese players.

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

How long does it take them to compare a set of 4-10 numbers and

figure out which number is the highest? Do they have teams of mathematicians working around the clock on this one? The suspense is no longer killing me!

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a Japanese thing from what I’ve heard. Revealing the winner instantly implies that you don’t want the guy on your team.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I read your first sentence and I couldn’t get the old Arsenio “It’s a night thing” commercial out of my head.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

For the record, Carsenio remains one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on television. “Peaked in the seventies, yes.”

by kinbote on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Same shitt* offense different year

If its all about the money with the owners, why not blanket mortgage the team to sign Fielder. Guaranteed sell-outs. cha-ching

"show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy"

by Alexp11 on Dec 19, 2011 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Guaranteed sell-outs

Do tell

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

He means there will be 56,000 asses in seats for some games. :)

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Building apartments and malls on the parking lots.

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

All I know is that the owner would do well to invest in the benefit of his bottom line

"show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy"

by Alexp11 on Dec 19, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

thank you

for censoring the word “shitty”

by mintxcore on Dec 19, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It is genius

i’m going to start using Fuck Yo*

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

heheh

how has this not been invented yet?

by mintxcore on Dec 19, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news
BillShaikin
#Dodgers bid books have been sent to prospective buyers.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

You too can buy a Frank McCourt autographed toilet for just $1 billion dollars.

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

wonder if they look like the Scott Boras binders

by JJ 24 on Dec 19, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm getting mine sent to my Kindle.

the money and trees I save will go toward my winning bid.

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

No politics, I know but

In 1994, Ben Jones, who played Cooter on The Dukes of Hazzard, ran for Congress against Newt Gingrich.

What was Newt like on the campaign trail?


He called me ‘scurrilous.’ And I thought, scurrilous? That’s a weird— that sounds awful. That’s an awful-sounding word. But what it means is ‘profane.’ Now, I gotta admit, I can be profane. I cuss. A reporter from the Atlanta paper said, “What do you think? He called you scurrilous.” And I said, “F him and the horse he rode in on.”

Just a good ol’ boy, never meanin’ no harm

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

I didn’t get to the end of the interview, where Jones has a memorable quote:

Cooter is forever

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone brought donuts

There’s one particular type I always get no matter what.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

I need to take a picture of this donut shop in Victorville. It was a former Winchells, and the new owner didn’t want to change the sign on the building, so they just turned the W upside down and it is now Minchells donuts.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Man that’s lazy…..and brilliant

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I havent eaten a doughnut in a couple of years, but man they are EVERYWHERE here and taken kind of seriously. I wok across the street from a place that has fancy ones. Might be time to pay the donut a visit.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

What are things that Keith can't say?
I havent eaten a doughnut in a couple of years

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

rumor has it, he also turned the Ls upside down too.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Love it.

There used to be a place in Echo Park that used whatever letters they had found for the sig…it read “great Salvatorean food”

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha

I hear Sal was a great cook!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I just noticed how I spelled “walk” in my donut post…..talk about Freudian slip.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Mmmmm, Asian donuts….

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Really Old Fashioneds

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

or if you prefer

Panda Bear Claws, now with more panda!

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

like McDowell’s from Coming to America

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

“McDonald’s has the Big Mac, McDowell’s has the Big Mic!”

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Precisely. I think of it every time I pass and it cracks me up.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

“I’m having a party Saturday night, you should come!”

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

“natural berries and juices”

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

“Sexual Chocolate!”

“That boy’s good.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Louis was 132 years old!

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

“You probably remember him as Joe the policeman, from the What’s going down episode, of That’s My Momma.”

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

How was this not like the first comment?

So it’s not really an “M”, it’s an inverted “W”???


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

sugar high from the donuts

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

This is not my pic

But I did pass this place on the highway back east a few years back.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They need to water their grass. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Only one kind of grass gets watered in the high desert.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, if you google “Winchell’s Donuts” and click Images, the second results is that of Matt Kemp and Don Newcombe. Go figure.

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

droooooool

nom nom nom its hannukah time!

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Saw a note today from David Fuccillo at Niners Nation that David Akers is three points away from breaking Jerry Rice’s season scoring record. That blew me away because I remember the season that Rice caught 22 TD passes, and that was in a strike-shortened 12-game season. He also had another TD and had 138 points.

Akers has a whopping 36 field goals (and 135 points) through 13 games. The NFL record for field goals in a season is 40.

Trivia: who holds that record?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

and thus ends today’s trivia session.

2005 Cardinals

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for playing guys….

Shit that was fast.

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

too bad he sucks now

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad I dont play fantasy football anymore. I’d be imagining to myself that I thought to draft Akers but didn’t and would be upset.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I do play and am upset to no end.

Sat Toby Gerhart yesterday to play Peterson amd lost by 3.

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Drives one mad. Truly. and i was good at it. Won money every year, but too much aggro

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Not worth it at all. But I keep doing it. One day I will learn.

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad it's over

Yesterday was the first Sunday that I was a “fan” again and not obsessed with statistics.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m just glad I could watch football yesterday and not have to wait for the Cowboys to lose.

by keithc13 on Dec 19, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I am loving FF right now! Won my championship in my big money league last night and will be advancing to the finals in 2 of my other leagues.

by BFDC on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Congrats

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

That scoring record is the 49ers team record BTW. Not an NFL record.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Steelers/49ers, too. Sick game.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

for 6 months?

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

on approved credit of course.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Lakers / Clippers, with an occasional online check of USC laying bricks against TCU

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Please tell me Paul & Griffin will get significant minutes.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

They should. They have had only two practices together and their first game is in 6 days.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we already to the Pau to Houston

for Scola, Martin and Dragic thing? what’s the hold up?

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

the Lakers wanting to still be good.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta wait for Dwight Howard, and see how that plays out.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems Laker fans forgot what they were like before Pau showed up.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

(looks around)

you talkin’ to me?

Pau is great, I just think the Houston package is not one to pass up. Scola is hugely underrated, Dragic fills a big need, and Martin has value.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Houston is offering anymore

Word was they wanted to pair Pau with Nene.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 11:58 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

or briefly they were considering the all-Gasol frontcourt.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Grizz eould be dumb not to keep Marc

by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 19, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

and they did

But he was a restricted FA. The option was out there. A longshot, but still out there.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

he got one hell of an offer sheet. They had to match but damn that was a lot of money.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Best record in the Western Conference before Bynum got hurt in 2007-2008! :)

(But I agree with you)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm interested to see how Kobe looks

An interview on Yahoo, he spoke about his knee, he said it felt 90 percent better, and he can do a lot of things this year that he wasn’t able to last year.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 12:08 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

he can do a lot of things girls this year that he wasn’t able to last year.

Fixed!

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

:P

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Kobe was able to do that last year :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that...good interview

One thing I liked that Kobe said he can now do was practice. He was super limited by the end of last year. They will need a healthy Kobe this year (obviously).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m very curious to see how Kobe’s knee’s are by the end of the back to back to back to start the season.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So… “Best shape of my life” ?

by EMDarrow on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Let the Troy Murphy Era begin!

(being unnecessarily snarky about what is still a very good team)

Go Devin Ebanks!

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul Hornung scored 15 touchdowns and kicked 15 field goals in 1960. What a badass.

Too bad he went to Notre Dame.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

eric

I would never buy this but i like the idea and it is cool

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

I am totally down with that idea.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That reminds me

I will probably do a baseball card post this week. Came across some 2011 Topps Update cards.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i am laying low waiting for 2012 topps heritage in march

because i want a kershaw/koufax auto from that set. But yesterday i bought a card you would hate. a kemp/J. hamilton/Carlos Lee triple auto.

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my bad I misread that. I thought that was from the 2012 set or something haha

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 19, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2013 Dodgers teammates.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

wearing a road jersey for show?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t like when Topps would use a repeat picture from a previous year in the 1960s.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

that happened a lot

i would like to see how far they can take this heritage line. cant wait for the 80’s

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love a set of modern players with the 1974 Topps design.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

WAS Nat’l Lea!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Don Drysdale

1963 Topps:

1964 Topps (same picture, zoomed in):

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Emo Don

much like the Uribe picture

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

They could pose Billingsley like this

Here’s a somewhat similar angle…

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd be a much better pitcher

if I wasn’t so sad all the time.

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This is my

wistful face.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I had that card as a kid

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like Mike Cameron will be a Nat

/Rosenthal

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

Will probably outhit Juan Rivera

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I could see that

by BFDC on Dec 19, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Before the season starts I’m going to make a list of players on minor league deals who I think will out / pitch our recently acquired premium players. Should not be hard.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone think Fielder will sign this month?

Or will it be in January?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 1:06 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Grant is funny once again

The State of the NL West
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/12/19/2647145/the-state-of-the-nl-west

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty well sums it up

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 1:10 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The Dodgers acquired 73 different utility infielders. When I used to smoke, I figured out how addicted I was when I was thinking about my next cigarette while I was already in the middle of one. Ned Colletti was doing the same thing when he was signing Mark Ellis and Adam Kennedy. “Just can’t wait to get finished with that contract so I can get another one started. Mmm, maybe John McDonald and Willie Bloomquist are available to … dammit Diamondbacks so much”

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers part was so good, lol

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ladies and gentlemen of the internet, I humbly suggest that the Padres are the only team in this division that knows what in the hell they’re doing.

Hard for me to disagree with this.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

though I liked the commenter below adding " Except for wanting to play payers. That’s usually the one thing they get wrong." They could very well become the A’s, smartly trading and acquiring young players, but also constantly flipping them, and still never being better than average. But we’ll see. Everyone else other than the DBacks seem to be running in place at best.

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Without impact drafting they are wading into the deep water without proper equipment. Trading relief help for two future members of the rotation is a great place to start. The Maybin trade last year was the best trade made in the division. They might have made the best trade in the division this year. They certainly made the best deadline deal this year.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the “_ LOL” caricature of our posters to theirs was a caricature, but there it is in all its glory in the first 4-5 comments..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLGiants

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yyyyyyyup. It’s like it’s a swim meet, and the four swimmers would could possibly win the race are all treading water, and the one who can’t has gotten out of the pool and is talking to a very skeptical Michael Phelps.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it's like Monty Python's Upper Class Twit of the Year competition.

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice post by Clipper Steve for both Clipper and Laker fans.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

I’m happy Carlos Beltran will not be playing in the NL West this year.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Until we get the Ned special

2011: 4 Million
2012: 31 Million

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

crap!

2012: 4 Million
2013: 31 Million

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Carlos should go back to KC and lead the renaissance

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Change his name to Borgia

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you saying that Carlos Beltran should be GM?

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-10565325

Tim Tebow is a moneyball player. Best part is that this guy wrote that after seeing the movie, and not reading the book.

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Its true, but he shouldnt cite wins to prove it. Its the whole scouting vs stats (production) argument.

Limiting turnovers is nearly as important as OPS.
Production is more important than what a scout says about the mechanics of a throwing motion.
Making plays with your feet, not taking sacks, decision making…playing QB really is all about decisions, and not about the physical attributes or mechanics of a player. Tom Brady is a great QB, but I guarantee almost every 3rd string guy in the league can make the exact same throws Brady can on a practice field. Difference is that Brady can process info way quicker on the field than the 3rd string guys.

Real QB rating developed by the CHFF guys may end up being the new OPS+

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Good points

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news! We're getting more Carly ads.
Breaking News @BreakingNews

AT&T says it has ended its bid to acquire T-Mobile USA – @NYTimesDealBook

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

They should bid to acquire Carly

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

My girlfriend is often told

that she resembles Ms. iCarly herself, Miranda Cosgrove. Personally, I don’t see it, but that might have to do with my blind hatred for Disney TV.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 19, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Lucky for you

she’s on Nick!

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Or just Lucky for You

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t watched disney or nick with any regularity in years. Disney’s gone down hill, their old Disney Originals were kick ass!

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

thechive.com had some pics of her up today on their website titled “T-Mobile girl Carly Foulkes can use my anytime minutes (20 Photos)”

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

How could you not like Candido?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Good comp for Jonathan Garcia
Short, stocky, good arm, average speed, good power, k’s a lot, High A ball at age 19
or
Short Puerto Rican Right Fielder with good arm, good power, holes in swing

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Loved that 1985 Fleer set

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Kubel fits really good with the Dbax.

At worst, he’s insurance for Goldschmidt.

Vs Left-handers:
1b – Goldy
OF – Parra, Young, Upton

Vs Righties
1b – Kubel
OF – Parra, Young, Upton…

or

Vs Righties
1b – Goldy
OF – Kubel, Parra, Upton

Thats assuming Parra can play CF.
Its not a given Parra’s time is going to go way down…could be Chris Young (who vs righties is really horrible—- 229/300/419 for his career.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

720 OPS is horrible for a center fielder?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Compared to what Parra and Kubel do vs right handed pitching, it is:

Parra – 289/337/420 vs righties
Kubel – 282/342/490

I think the Dbax, if they play this right…can have some excellent platoon advantages this year.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as they’re willing to throw their defense in the crapper sure.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Kubel hasn’t played one inning of first base professionally.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone seems to think slow, white, defensively challenged outfielder can simply stand at 1st base and be functional even if they have never played the position in their life.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s incredibly hard

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 2:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I certainly do.

We’re talking about professional athletes here.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you ever listen to NPR’s Nina Totenberg take her listeners through a Q&A of a Supreme Court hearing? You get this back-and-forth between the justices and the lawyers… The justices keep pushing the envelope. “If you say that, do you also mean this increasingly hard-to-imagine scenario?” …and many, many times, the lawyer will say, “Yes,” because that is the only way to make their legal argument, and they lose the case.

This comment reminded me of that.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

they can. just buy them a new glove and tell them not to get in the way of the 2B

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s give and take in everything.

If I was the Dbax, I’d trade Chris Young for something good, and just make Parra the starter in CF.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Just to be clear the difference between a .757 OPS (Parra) and a .719 OPS (Young) of .32 OPS points goes from good to horrible?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

CY’s 719 is an established number.
He’s had a bunch of ABs.

Parra I think is only going to get better…and that 757 is a low point for him.

In 2011, Parra hit 296/355/427 vs righties.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree they will find ways for Parra

but it’s either he or Goldschmidt who will suffer the most from the Kubel signing.

From Arizona Republic today:

At the same time, Towers looked at what Kubel’s addition could mean to the Diamondbacks lineup. He sees it looking something like this (assuming Drew’s healthy): Drew, Hill, Montero, Upton, Goldschmidt, Kubel, Young, Roberts.

“That’s a pretty good lineup,” Towers said.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess if they get the 2009 Kubel, otherwise who could tell the difference between the two?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Meaning I think it is a good lineup if Parra or Kubel is in it.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Dbax are really down on Parra and only think of him as a 4th OF’er….

I’d offer them Billingsley for Parra/Skaggs.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I would assume Skaggs is worth more than Billingsley.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Dbax seems to be in win now mode, and they valued Cahill (who i think sucks) more than Parker.

Getting them to bite on Billingsley i think could happen.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they decided of the three pitching prospects, they could afford to deal Parker for the present, but I’d be shocked if they dealt either Bauer or Skaggs before next July 31st.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

And the day Ned ever trades an established major league player without a must trade tag attached to him (Milton Bradley) for a top prospect will be the day I expire.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Things could change now that Lovelace is Robin to his Batman.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder which one is more untouchable for the Diamondbacks, Skaggs or 24? HQ prefers 24.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Bauer, probably quite easily.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

How far away from contending are the Royals

With all the young pieces they’ve got, it looks like they could be in the playoff race by 2013, 2012 if things come together more quickly than people think.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

They won 71 games in a year where Alex Gordon became a 6 win player, Bruce Chen left balled his way to a career year, Jeff Francouer wasn’t the worst player in baseball and Melky Cabrera was known for something besides being fat. They traded nonfat Melky Cabrera for a dude who walked six per nine last year. Aside from their farm system collapsing as a lesson to anyone who thinks potential means more than talent pretty much everything went right for them.

At least this year, they’ll be lucky to match that total.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

they were unlucky according to pythag

they should have been in second place behind the tigers… (I read this somewhat recently, didnt look it up fresh).

and the al central is fuckin horrible.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

78-84 pythag which would have been third, but still, AL Central.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, If Reg wants to bet the Royals don’t match 71 wins I’d be more then happy to oblige.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Said that without looking at the Pythag.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yet another bet I'd be eager to take

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

they want young starters

but they don’t want to trade Wil Myers or Mike Montgomery

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Just read MLB trade rumors?

That’s my inspiration for the post.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

don’t know who’d they think they can trade for a good young starter

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex Gordon for Derek Holland. Boom.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

With a current rotation of:
Sanchez
Duffy
Paulino
Chen
Hochevar

And Lamb/Montgomery/Ororizzi percolating the Royals are in decent shape rotation wise for that division. The last thing they need to do is trade an offensive chip like Gordon for a pitcher.

Hochevar and Paulino are two pitchers who showed solid skill growth in 2011. Duffy is young and coming. Sanchez can be great or awful, he could be the next Oliver Perez, or he could be a steal. You use Chen until the boys are ready.

Hosmer is a legit prospect who actually performed like a legit prospect. In fact the whole infield will make big strides in 2012. This is a coming team, being led by the two best corner prospects in the game.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So what you're saying is

There’s a chance?

Moustakes was really bad last year, improvement with him will definitely help. Danny Duffy had a rough year, he’s bound to improve, just depends on how much. I believe they’ve still got some reinforcements waiting in the minors, such as Lorenzo Cain to take Melky’s place.

You’re likely right that it’s going to be tough to get out of the low 70s in wins, but if they can improve that abysmal pitching staff it will be a start in the right direction.

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by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

74 win team

Playoffs in 2012 = Huge miracle
Playoffs in 2013 = Moderate miracle
Playoffs in 2014 = Minor miracle

So yeah, there’s a chance.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

we don’t need no stinkin miracles

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the yearly question we all ask.

and usually the answer is: “Definitely next year!”

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't realize this at the time

but timing is everything, per David Aldridge of NBA.com:

If the Warriors had given Jordan the offer sheet on the first day they were allowed (Dec. 8) the Clippers would have matched the sheet. But in doing so, they would have used up all of their available cap room and wouldn’t have had anything to offer Chauncey Billups. The Warriors waited because they were still hopeful they could make a deal for free-agent center Tyson Chandler, but Chandler wound up agreeing to terms with the Knicks that weekend on a four-year, $60 million deal. But that deal couldn’t be made official until New York amnestied Billups — which happened on Sunday.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Yup, we owe Golden State a big thank you.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I read that earlier, really fortunate how things worked out, perfect storm.

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Although they could have amnestied Mo Williams if they wanted to, to make room.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Big difference between adding Chauncy for nothing, to adding Chauncy but subtracting Mo.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

For me the allure of a three guard rotation the caliber of Paul/Chauncy/Mo when most teams can’t find two good guards is what is going to help this team through the tough 66 game schedule. Mo against scrubs, should make for some solid time.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Mo could be The Microwave off the bench.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this comment. That is going to be a horrific division for a few years. Tigers should be the cream but like the Dodgers what do they really have after Verlander and Miggy?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

about 10 more wins of talent mixed in there somewhere.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Beats me. A total blank.

by berkowit28 on Dec 19, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Would have been funny(ier) if the joke ended after “Mama needs new clothes!”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

One wonders what she was wearing from the neck up that they felt the need to make the distinction

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't get it either

but would LOVE to invite this girl over.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think she rolled a winning number

and the jokes ends

She hugged each of the dealers and then picked up her
winnings and her clothes and quickly departed. The dealers
stared at each other dumbfounded.

Finally, one of them asked,

“What did she roll?” The other answered, "I don’t know – I
thought you were watching!

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

and moral of the story; not all Irish are dumb, not all blondes are dumb, but all men are men.

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just wanted to say what a weird font this is for a newspaper.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Suckas better not start comparing Darvish to Chan Ho when he signs with the Rangers.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Or

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that won't happen

Darvish doesn’t seem like the scissor-kicking type.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Suckas also better not make any “Twirling Darvish” puns.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard that one on MLB Network on Friday. I cringed and secretly applauded at the same time.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody seemed to like my “Don’t get a Darvish pitcher, get a totally Darv pitcher” joke the other day, so I won’t make it again.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I wait with bait on my breath

for Yu the Man headlines

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand I’m calling for the head of the first guy who runs with “What I Like About Yu”

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

When he gets caught in a Jeteresque scandal, can we use “Yu, Don’t Bring Me Flowers?”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Or, when the Jays get Darvish but when he stinks they cannot complete a rumored trade to the White Sox…. because… Yu Don’t Bring Them Flowers.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Possibilities are endless

Yu can’t get there from here
Yu gonna eat that?
Yu believe in miracles?
Yu can’t touch this

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Scenario: Darvish taken by an NL team, playing against the Mets.

Hu’s on first? Yu kidding?

by berkowit28 on Dec 19, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of that, the Australian League All-Star Game is on MLB Network Wednesday morning.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It does make me wonder what Nancy Bea Hefley will play when Darvish visits LA for the first time. “You Are My Sunshine,” maybe?

Does she make musical puns for visiting players? I remember she played “Pennies from Heaven” for Brad Penny’s first start in LA, but of course he was a Dodger.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman would also be an interesting choice for Nancy Bea.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

you send me

if he happens to be on the bases

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

*courtesy laugh

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

As someone who never got tired of So Taguchi jokes, I appreciate it.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Whirling Darvish is acceptable though

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

But nobody calls a pitcher a whirler. Old-timey types might use “twirler.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

FYI – Red Rush, the old-time radio sportscaster, used both “whirls and hurls” and “kicks and flicks” to describe a pitcher’s delivery. But, you’re right, I don’t ever remember a pitcher being referred to as a “whirler” per se.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 19, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Chan Ho’s pedigree as a Dodger does not match pitching in a AAAA league like Darvish does?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Silverwidow question fo the day - Space Jam 2012

who would play the NBA players?

hard to believe that Shawn Bradley was one of them.
Team: Shawn Bradley, Charles Barkley, Larry Johnson, Patrick Ewing, and Muggsy Bogues

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

Dwight Howard would definitely be one of the five. It seems right up his alley.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

LeBron

He needs the image make over and this would garner a lot of good will.

by Grimjack on Dec 19, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

LeBron would need the MJ role

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d have to fight Wade for it.
Ring in a box…………..

by Grimjack on Dec 19, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Id guess Blake Griffin as a a good fit see how his hops seem preternatural

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ron Artest would be there for the after shots.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs moar

Agent Zero

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 19, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Tyson would be Bill Murray

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate Robinson would weasel his way into the Muggsy role.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ray Allen could use an update to his SAG card, so throw him in there.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Kaman

would play the role of one of the aliens.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Would not need make up for this roll. Also, I thought I saw him in the trailer for Men in Black 3

by Grimjack on Dec 19, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The Josh Brolin impression of Tommy Lee Jones was great.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Your face is photoshopped

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

"So's your face"

It always makes sense…so says J.D. :-)

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Dec 19, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

felines having their impact on Christmas cards this year, first the mayor of San Juan (leopard killing an antelope), now this haha

by gdl on Dec 19, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody can truly own the Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering how often SportsCenter folk make fun o’ that bowl, I now believe they’re using reverse psychology

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Long Beach State about to tear up an ESPN-owned property this week

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Stuart Scott never saw them coming.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

or maybe he saw half of them coming.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to find a Stu Scott pic to replace Leo

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean I guess it’s not that surprising that ESPN owns and operates sporting events. I mean not only does NBC own KNBC but it also owns the company that produces The Office. Still, it seems weird.

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Just like most interviews with so-and-so with a new book or music release, etc. getting interviewed by 60 Minutes, only to find the publishing company is also owned by Viacom.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPNZone and ESPN’s Own, sound the same, they need to get some of that Disney money and cross market-segment better.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently a Dee Gordon retweet is worth 9 followers these days.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

Mostly, i was having fun with “I’m gonna get so many followers when @skinnyswag9 retweets this”

I was debating in my head who to go with, but figured he was the safest bet to be on twitter.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m surprised there was more room for me to drop on that scale.

by G.Scott on Dec 19, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Given how many people seem to like the in person better then the on screen person it is a wonder we still talk on line. Is Eric the only person who has a better on screen persona then in person:)

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You stab one kid at a TBLA event…

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

i noticed yesterday that the Lions hold up cards to their defense to call plays

like a stupid College team. One was named Deuce. I assumed it was in memoriam of him?

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Deuce has many meanings

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i can think of a couple

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Like, how the Raiders handled those last five minutes.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

i really wanted to see Janikowski make that kick

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too. That’s on my bucket list

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

he was never gonna make that yesterday.

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He kicked a ball that was blocked and still went 50-55 yards. Next time the ball and a finger go through the uprights.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

from my seat....

for a millisecond… “holy shit that is still going in”

then it bounced. angles are tricky

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

has Janikowski been around so long that he was once a LA Raider?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He played with Hideo Nomo in [not Japan]

/4down

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You should have heard the one of the talking heads on kcal9 last night talking like she knew that even if it was blocked it would not have went through

by Grimjack on Dec 19, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

she must have calculated the angle of trajectory, factoring in the wind differential of course

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Sherlock Holmes would have figured it out

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

George Blanda

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

i probably would have had a

heart attack and died right on the spot if that went in though

by delias man on Dec 19, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew so many prayers were almost answered yesterday:)

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You punch one kitten….

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Once you start, you can’t stop.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s why I named all my kittens Pringles.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

We had a kitten named Eric Stephen because he kept punching his siblings.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s the third most exciting Dodger amirite?

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I drop whatever I’m doing when Juan Uribe is the plate.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn you stole my behind Ellis and Uribe line

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

We need someone with Photoshop skills to make a Dos Ellis beer label.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Mintcore jumps into action

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Dos Ellis is great.

by kinbote on Dec 20, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

My list

Kershaw
Kemp
Dee
Jansen
Rubby

CK is my favorite Dodger of all-time, so has to be #1.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Sign of the times when the 5th most exciting player is not actually playing.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My list (as if anyone cares)

Kershaw
Bills
Dee
Javy
Jansen
TGJ
Loney

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That is not your list. Or anyone else’s.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, it actually is

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Look at it very carefully.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yep no kemp

i like kemp, but he’s not a favorite. i root for him, but he’s a little too much. i tend to like players for their personalities and such a little too much.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The list was of the most exciting players. You don’t have to be a fan to say that Matt Kemp is about a billion times more exciting than Javy or Loney.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

oh well in that case, yeah, kemp too :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh :-) I’m with you in that the players I like having on my team and players that I like are not exactly the same list.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal Fans will always come to an agreement

were a peaceful bunch

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i stay off it

because i don’t want to be committed for my insane ramblings

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

“I hope I don’t get sucked into this telephony business”
-0down

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

would a zero down

be possible?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d call and ask but…you know.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Al Gore

and his wacky ideas

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t care how “super serial” he is

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

manbearpig!

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I still have a ‘stupid’ phone. Use Windows ‘classic’ for my screen display. And, in my room I have a tan push button ‘Bell Telephone’ phone. (I had to get rid of the dial phone a couple of years ago.)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 19, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

ever think you'd see the day

where we’d have hand-held computers?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched Star Trek!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 19, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Those fucking tricorders are huge compared to a smartphone – plus the communicator was separate!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Ireland says D Howard to the Nets tomorrow.

If so the Laker future is Bynum/Kobe/Pau. Is that enough to contend for a championship one more time? Can they get to the Western Finals?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

That reminds me, John Ireland is now the Lakers play by play man. I’m assuming its the radio feed, but still. What the fuck are the Lakers thinking.

by Tripon on Dec 19, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Hasn’t been the best offseason, starting with the mishandling of Spiro

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by meercatjohn on Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

dont forget the dude who looks like he passed out drunk in a gutter is their new tv guy to replace joel..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i believe so

but I have an admitted bias :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, only one team is coming out of the east… so Miami, New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Chicago get to beat each other up to qualify for the finals. Lakers just need to get by Dallas, OKC and whoever else is good (but not great).

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha
richardjustice
Hearing former Astros GM Ed Wade will end up back with Phillies as a scout.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

thedudeabides
Hoping that Dodger GM will end up back with Giants as assistant publicist.

by The Dude Abides on Dec 19, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t care were he goes I just want him gone.

by Grimjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

you could argue he never stopped working for philly

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 19, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow
Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Nationals pushing hard for Gio. Discussing 4-for-1 trade with #Athletics. #MLB

Four players means no Harper or Strasburg. :)

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 5:23 PM PST reply actions  

wow indeed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The last thing I expected this morning

was potentially seeing Scarecrow and Mrs. King references.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 5:24 PM PST reply actions  

power outage at Candlestick

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

Who is playing Guitar Hero and hears a tune and thinks, “Wait a minute, is this the ‘I get a car with a bow on it’ music?”

Also, she should have been tipped off when the dad picked the song title “Mom’s gift”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

I hate those commercials.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

who the fuck gives a luxury car as a present anyway?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ad executives.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

“If anyone here is in marketing or advertising….kill yourself.”

Bill Hicks

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

but I like humma

well I guess PR may or may not count

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

people who can afford a Lexus can also afford to have custom songs programmed into Guitar Hero, can rewire elevators to play custom songs, and they can have custom music boxes made. Fuck them.

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

so are we gonna start calling people Lexus drivers?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m way more annoyed by Lexus drivers than Accura drivers, but that’s Eric’s call

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way, I affectionately refer to the guy who procured the music box as black Humma.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

you know guitar hero has that functionality without paying extra right?

or was that rock band? Or both

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

wait

people still play guitar hero?

by mintxcore on Dec 19, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

and those Best Buy commercials with the mothers 1-UPing Santa. i just don’t like it.

by funkyjam on Dec 19, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I laughed at those, but on 25th viewing they are getting old.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

True or false

Someone calling themselves humble disqualifies their humility

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

I am humble?

or, I try to be humble?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Andre Dawson, in the Cubs’ sit down interview with Bob Costas (with Sandberg and Jenkins), said he was humble, which is what spurred this question.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

does he have a personal DJ?

if no, then he’s humble. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

How many Escalades travel with him?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hasn’t the “humblebrag” person made a blog, twitter, etc. out of this?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Harris Wittels! One of the guests on this week’s holiday edition of Comedy Bang Bang.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Henson tweet
The Cardinals are in discussions to sign Coco Crisp to play CF and bat at the top of the order. Jon Jay wld move to RF with Craig injured.

Beltran’s ripe for the taking!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Trade Loney for whatever we could get and put Sands at 1B.

by OB12 on Dec 19, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

or, put Sands in AAA, Rivera to the bench

and Beltran to LF

i’m not buying this no money shit anymore

/BSI

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the platform you currently are on

the batshit insane one

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 19, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

glad you got the anagram

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no point in saying plethora. Either say veritable plethora or don’t use the word at all.

by The Dude Abides on Dec 19, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I would not want someone to tell me I had a plethora, and then find out that that person, has NO IDEA, what it means to have a plethora

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I have many plethoras! (a blue one; a green one……..)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 19, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a veritable plethora of plethoras!

by The Dude Abides on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

One month

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Big Ben

picked off twice now

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

lol

power went off at Candlestick again

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

Is Johnny pulling the plug and giggling again?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 19, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

he was

until the transformer blew up in his face

(seriously though, there is a helicopter vid of the transformer exploding)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I do like the Santa Claus iPhone commercial.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

that’s a good one

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad to hear

that UC Berkeley is short handed against the Gauchos tonight.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

Phil will take you up on that bet.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

the line is Cal -9. I’ll happy bet Phil a tall frosty one that Cal wins by 10 or more

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yu called it

Alas, Cal fired up like 100 3 pointers and UCSB played their worst game of the season (I’ve watched or listened to them all). Also: Cal is very good and deep this year, I’m impressed.

That is no garbagey Gaucho team they played (they almost won at Washington on Friday) but they still won by 20.

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by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Good thing

Phil didn’t make that bet in the battle of the two UC schools.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t give a shit about the Gaucho’s

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Well the good news is they don't give a shit about you either :-P

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by underdog on Dec 20, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Boom we won.

on to the next one on to the next one

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yu Darvish announcement

coming down to the wire here. Everyone refreshing twitter.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

heh

i guess the Fighters have to say they accepted the bid, and THEN the MLB says who won.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the Fighters hamming it up?

Everyone gets to save face if the Fighters declined the bid.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

tee hee

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I want the star of Mad Men to found a boxing or MMA club. Yes, The Jon Hamm Fighters.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sad that their nickname is just the Fighters and that the company who owns them is Nippon Ham.

by fbihop on Dec 19, 2011 10:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

They should be the Nippon Ham Radio Operators.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nippon Ham to Ham Combat

by fbihop on Dec 19, 2011 10:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

They can swap with Fukoka Daiei and be the Nippon Ham Hawks.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Daiei sold the team to SoftBank. F that S.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Category?

Old Globe?
Did Lincoln’s DNA drip on to it?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha! Ford's!

Serious guess wrong, tasteless joke right!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

no your series guess was right, my friend, Shakespeare’s globe was built on a icosagonic foundation

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The Mayans would have loved Willie’s theatre.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I counted “category?” as a question, cause of the question mark

by Josie Becker on Dec 19, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah.

I wasn’t counting my title.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Old Globe is a serious guess.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

that was quite a smash

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Josh McRoberts, my favorite Duke player ever.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Grant Hill says, “Who?”

MJ says, “Where?”

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Most people say “Why”?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Darvish = Ranger
JeffPassan
The Texas Rangers have won the posting auction of Japanese right-hander Yu Darvish with a record $51.7M bid, sources tell Yahoo! Sports.

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

Good for them. I think that’s a good move. If I were them, and I had $200 million, I’d go and get Fielder, too.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Aki Otsuka is about to get remembered.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

interesting

Ogando back to the pen? or Feldman?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Rotation

MLB DepthCharts had this as their rotation. Not sure which one gets the boot though.

Starting Rotation
1 LHP Derek Holland
2 RHP Alexi Ogando
3 RHP Colby Lewis
4 LHP Matt Harrison
5 RHP Neftali Feliz

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

If I had to pick I’d put Ogando in the pen to start the year.

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by regfairfield on Dec 19, 2011 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I think that is it unless there is some kind of trade.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

How many innings do really expect out of Feliz?

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 19, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

But, weirdly, more than Capang, as Capuano manages to pitch negative innings.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers will give it one last Harang.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

With the addition of Yu, does it make any sense to move Feliz to the rotation and bump Ogando who was just as good last year as Holland?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

maybe Feliz is forever scarred after costing Nolan Ryan his first title since 1969

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 20, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Three straight AL championships?

by silverwidow on Dec 19, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah and 3 straight WS losses, fuck that team

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 19, 2011 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

So the Rangers going to give 51.7 to the Japanese baseball league.
And then another 100/5 or so to get him?

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

probably more like

what CJ Wilson got

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

If Darvish doesnt sign, he can sign with anyone next year right without the fee..

I’d think considering the posting fee amount, he could sign a bigger deal next year.

by Joey Joe on Dec 19, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

this is true

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think hes a FA in 2014

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 19, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t the Astros moving to the AL West in 2013? Good luck to them along with the Ms and As.

by Xeifrank on Dec 19, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Dice-K part 2

I’m calling it.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m sure it won’t be the first time you were wrong :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

but im sticking to my guns…. i dont trust the japanese league pitchers success translating well

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yu is an American-style pitcher. He was a sensation in Japan before he ever threw a professional pitch. Strasburg is a better comp than Matsuzaka.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

this

also, Kuroda did just fine

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

but was he an ace? no, a solid #2

dice k was like a #3, they are going to pay this guy to be a #1… feeling the pressure of losing CJ?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Kuroda would have been the #1 last year

if we didn’t have Kershaw

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

but not an "ace"

quoth tony jackson et al

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I can say without hyperbole that Yu Darvish may very likely be the best pitcher ever born in Japan.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

think about it

if there was a 25 year old that has absolutely dominated AAA for the last few years, his team would be screaming for him to be called up.

Darvish gets some questions only because he is Japanese, it seems.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 19, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

wither nomo?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They didn't even make a serious offer to CJ

so I’m thiking this was their plan all along

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 20, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

no he isn’t. all the reports say he relies on a veritable plethora of weaker offspeed pitches and doesn’t pitch off his fastball very well. American pitchers develop the fastball first, pick one or two offspeed pitches, and throw the fastball 70% of the time.

by G.Scott on Dec 20, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Someone link to Chad’s article about this…

by VegasBlues on Dec 19, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That's racist


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The things you learn on Twitter

So it seems that Kurt Vonnegut once needed a job, and the nascent magazine Sports Illustrated needed writers. So Vonnegut takes the job and is assigned to write a story about a race horse that jumped the rail and terrorized the crowd at a track. Vonnegut stares at his typewriter for hours, then walks out of the building — quitting — without saying a word. On his typewriter is a single sheet of paper with one single sentence: “The horse jumped over the fucking fence.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

Makes me wonder just how much Vonnegut really helped Thornton Melon after all.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

True Story:

I didn’t ACTUALLY grow up in Schenectady, New York. Schenectady was the nearest big city (heh). I grew up in the town of Glenville, in the Niskayuna school district. To get to Niskayuna, one had to drive through some even tinier towns, including the town of Alplaus.

Alplaus has a tiny fire house that serves this tiny town:

Kurt Vonnegut was a volunteer fireman at the Alplaus fire house during his time in Schenectady, when he was a PR flack for General Electric.

When I was growing up there, it would have meant something to me if I’d known that Vonnegut — the subversive Kurt Vonnegut — spent his time in a place I passed every single day.

Number of times Vonnegut’s local connections were spoken of in my time at Niskayuna: Zero.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 19, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Hi ho.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

“Things Ryan Braun might say.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

doubt the 49ers no more heathens!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 19, 2011 9:23 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, Lakers look like sleepwalking garbage tonight, Clips look like they think it's a playoff game

Clips should be good this year but lakers won’t be this bad. Playing a lot of backups when I’ve been watching but still, yeesh.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 19, 2011 9:35 PM PST reply actions  

Just got tix to the Holiday Bowl in SD

SOOOO excited to kick Mack Brown’s ass!!!!!! Josie and I will probs meet up but will anyone else be there?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

I’m in SD now. Lots of TCU (and a few La. Tech) folks here now. Next week, you gotta represent.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

are you the cal alum

yes i will be reppin cal gear, getting rowdy, and booing texans everywhere i go

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I apologize in advance for your game experience.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

why? fill me in?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal is bad at football

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s go back to the fucking of Mack Brown.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I will be rooting for Cal, don’t get me wrong.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 19, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal doesn't suck

We’ve got Isi, Keenan Allen, an OK Zack Maynard, Marvin Jones, some pretty damn good d-line….

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

yay! :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

oh and a great punter

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 19, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He gets a lot of work?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 19, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

My senior year, we had two weapons — our punter (Nick Harris) and a cornerback/returner (Deltha O’Neal). It literally felt like we were more likely to score on an O’Neal pick-six than when we were on offense. Christ, we were terrible.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 19, 2011 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

ho ho ho

and a great field gold kicker, the one and only Giorgio Tavecchio!

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 20, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow. $51.7 million translates into 4.02899002 billion Japanese yen.

I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base

by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 20, 2011 6:32 AM PST reply actions  

Old Friend X Paul

Signs with the Nats

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 20, 2011 7:01 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

What’s up TBLA fam…..Christmas shopping done yet?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 20, 2011 8:00 AM PST reply actions  

My wife and I are doing it all yesterday and today. I’m currently in hell. I’m finally off for break (with kids still at school/daycare) and I’m spending my time shopping. Yesterday went to the outlets and the bike shop; today is the mall. Hate this shit. You? :)

by kinbote on Dec 20, 2011 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

i don’t mind it. I like the mall.

by delias man on Dec 20, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

AL West making the NL West look like chump change. Good thing for the AL East they added an additional playoff spot.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

Earlier this year

I said that no possible way would a Japanese star come to the United States and pitch for the Texas Rangers. Oops

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

well

He hasn’t signed yet :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 20, 2011 8:09 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

To be fair I don’t think anyone took you seriously.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 20, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I"d expect Yu to be Nomo like, good enough to win ROY as a seasoned professional against first year major league prospects, but will he be an “Ace”? Only if you consider CJ Wilson an ace.

Still think the Angels made the best use of their assets by collecting Pujols and Wilson. Ten games to make up, the Rangers stay even by picking up Yu to replace CJ, but the Angels added both. Should be a great AL West race, with an even year Vernon Wells, and young Trout providing the difference.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:12 AM PST reply actions  

The way I see is how much would Matt Moore get if he went to free agency right now. You’re not adding an ace, you’re getting the most credentialed pitching prospect in recent memory outside of Strasberg.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 20, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

The day a Japanese import becomes an ace is the day I’ll believe it. Not sure why a team would not pay their own player who is a given and instead float 100 Million toward a possibility of greatness but in all likliehood be lucky to reach the level of the player they let go.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Nomo was an ace, at least for a little bit.

If we’re comparing Darvish to Wilson, I don’t know if Darvish will outproduce CJ Wilson in 2011, but he’ll probably be better than Wilson in 2013.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 20, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I don’t see CJ Wilson being much better than 2011 AJ Burnett by then

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 20, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Fairly big drop in one year.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a concern about a guy who has a short track record as a starter, who emerges at 30-31 (tho in a great hitter’s park) and then signs a big FA contract. He doesn’t have the pressure in Anaheim of being a top of the rotation guy at least, since it seemed he was feeling that in the playoffs this year.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 20, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Vernon Wells - very very bad or solid every other year

using wRC+
2006 – 129
2007 – 82
2008 – 117
2009 – 86
2010 – 125
2011 – 77

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

Angels are interested in Dioner Navarro

Enjoy!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 20, 2011 8:43 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Want to make Jeff Mathis look good I guess.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 20, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Really good read here

Overthinking It
Keeping Up with the Friedmans
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/a/15703

(even if first line will depress you)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 20, 2011 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

that was a great documentary

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

100% right.

And means that holds on to an old school GM or brings back some legacy hire is just gonna fall further and further behind.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 20, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Notes from the game:

Oh MY

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

Goodness

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Dec 20, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

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