Dodgers Sign Chris Capuano For Two Years, $10 Million
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 AM PST
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Hiroki Kuroda's days as a Dodger are over. The Dodgers have signed Chris Capuano to a two-year, $10 million contract, as first reported by Jim Bowden of ESPN. The contract also reportedly includes up to $1 million in incentives, per Jon Paul Morosi of Fox Sports. The contract also contains a mutual option for 2014.
Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times has the contract breakdown:
2012: $3 million
2013: $6 million
2014: $8 million mutual option ($1 million buyout)
On the surface, the deal seems fine. The 33-year old pitcher is like a Ted Lilly type (left-handed, 87.9 mph average fastball last season, prone to giving up home runs, low walks, above-average strikeout rate), though with a slider and changeup instead of a curve, and without the durability. Capuano comes much cheaper than Lilly, though with his injury history I'm not sure why a second year was necessary.
Capuano was 11-12 with a 4.55 ERA last year in 186 innings with the New York Mets. It was his first full season back after missing nearly two and a half seasons with injuries. He finished the 2007 season 0-12 with a 6.06 ERA over his final 22 appearances, then underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in October of that year.
In his first start of spring training in 2008, Capuano tore the ulnar ligament in his left elbow and had to undergo Tommy John surgery in May 2008. It was the second Tommy John surgery of his career, as he also had the procedure done in 2002. He missed all of 2008 and nearly all of 2009, limited to six minor league starts at the end of the year. He pitched 66 innings for the Brewers in 2010.
Aside from the injury risk, there are reasons to be concerned about Capuano. Away from Citi Field last season, opposing batters hit .291/.345/.538 with 17 home runs in just under 85 innings, a 5.42 ERA / 4.96 FIP / 4.00 xFIP compared to 3.82 / 3.27 / 3.40 in New York.
On the surface, this is not a bad deal. However, if forced to choose between signing Capuano and Juan Rivera (for $4 million in 2012) or Kuroda alone, I would have chosen Kuroda.
This does give the Dodgers a very left-handed rotation, with Capuano joining Lilly and reigning Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw. If Dana Eveland sticks around and wins the fifth starter spot, it could be even more left-leaning. The last time the Dodgers got 90 or more starts from left-handers was 1985, when southpaws started 95 of their games. The club record since moving to Los Angeles is 112 starts from left-handers by the 1965 team.
The Dodgers now have a full 40 players on their 40-man roster.
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G Scott hasn't even had a chance to crap on Capuano yet
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
he may or may not be
traditional metrics have him being poopoo, but advanced metrics have him being aight, but pitching in citi field may skew those because there is a huge contrast even in the advanced metrics between home and road.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
well, I’ll give Capistrano a chance; all we can do, right?
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, Chupacabra is worth reserving judgment on.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
For all we know, Captain Guano could be great!
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Captain Guano
If that is his real name
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
He doesn't blow, he swallows... (return to...)
oh never mind.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Since Ned can’t be done yet this means the end of Jamie Hoffmann and Russell Mitchell.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
On the surface, this is not a bad deal. However, if forced to choose between signing Capuano and Juan Rivera (for $4 million in 2012) or Kuroda alone, I would have chosen Kuroda.
I would have, too, but that is a risky move. You are asking for Kuroda to hold off old age for one more year (in his age-37 season). You are also, basically, asking Jerry Sands not to crap the bed as he racks up a full season of plate appearances.
Those are bets I’d make, but they might blow up in my face.
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As opposed to paying Juan Rivera four million and crapping the bed?
by Chad Moriyama on Dec 2, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
A TV show that I watch is in its 4th season and has become unwatchable. Yet for some reason I am going to stick it out almost just for closure. I think I am going to just watch job-related reality shows and sports from now on.
ooo, what fun!
Fourth season…must have aired last night….Big Bang Theory?
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
not my opinion
hell i’m not even halfway done with the 2nd season
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
there needs to be a horse racing reality show. Give us the seedy underbelly of a sport that only has a seedy underbelly at this point
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Even better: Greyhound racing.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
OK – here is the pitch
Half Bengie / Half Mr Ed / Half American Horror / Half Ghost and Mrs Muir / half seabisquit
Charistmatic but ultimately losing race horse gets turned into dog food, but curses his trainer as he dies. Horse meat now fed to racing Dog who is now possessed with horses soul
Horse voice, now in dog form, becomes greatest racing dog ever and causes horse trainer, who also has a dog kennel, ultimate ruin
greenlight this shit now
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
OK, then the dog passes the horse meat and becomes a talking shit on the ground. The shit is cleaned up by the dog’s owner and the horse’s soul passes into the baggie…..
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
now it is a perfect southpark parody of the aforementioned film!
We are going to be rich!!!
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
The everyday regulars are a hoot. My friend Kenny would be worth a sitcom
a. 6’5 played against Ewing in High School
b. Huge scare over right eye makes him look down right menacing
c. Plays the horses every day, can name every horse who ever raced
d. Every day if you talk to him, he just “missed” the exacta
e. If a real life pastry chef, works 7 days a week from like 10PM to 04AM so that he can do the horses every day
f. Very skinny young African American Woman like him
g. Some day he will die at the hand of one of their husbands
h. Very funny man, when he does think he’s being funny
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
cooking shows are kitchen sports
I love the cooking part
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
“oh yeah, deglaze the fuck out of that pan”
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
yeah there are a few reality shows I actually do like
usually competetions that require real talent at a specific thing and that aren’t heavily scripted. Cooking shows are of course one of them.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
exactamundo
I like topchef, ironchef, and chopped
gordon ramsey can suck donkey balls
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Is Robert Irvine still the host? I am not a fan of his.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
I like the premise of both shows, just don’t like that dude.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Man yells at people for not remodeling a restaurant in 12 hours.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I like it too
but some of those people are really fucked up
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
hey I didnt say I watch it, but other people do……. ok hell yeah I watch it, nothing but fine ass kardashians walking around, how am I less of a man? …… But you can pull my man card for watching Jersey Shore, Im even dissapointed in myself.
Explains a lot
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Cool, Jon is here, hey Jon, say a bad word here for me man, I just want to know that you’re really human haha… im jk…ok maybe I should be careful what I wish for.
Like "mittens."
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
nah, Fringe is still solid
OMG, it’s The Mentalist
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
doesn’t that air on Tuesdays? You’ve been stewing on that for two days : )
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
yes.
I was watching that with D and if dixon did the coke we were going to stop forever but he passed on that. We are just looking for a reason to stop at this point.
Tipping point episodes
We were the same way with Grey’s Anatomy. Show sucked since the 3rd season ended, but we kept watching just because. Then I saw they were doing a musical episode and that was it. Never watched again.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I had stopped watching the Office around Michael’s Goodbye, but caught last night’s ep and Jim’s flight had me rolling
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
should I watch the 8 season?
couldn’t even finish the 6th
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I stopped watching, and I cling to shows far beyond their expiration point.
The last two seasons with Michael Scott were bad and the episodes without him are no better.
I still watch HIMYM for no particular reason
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I had a dream where she and I made apple pecan waffles
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I noticed the last season or so
She’s lost a somewhat large amount of weight from what it looks like. From season 1-4 or 5 she looked really great, now she looks so much skinnier. It’s a shame.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
It doesn't make me cringe when its bad
the office when it was bad was just unwatchable and unfortanate. I still think HIMYM has some great moments and I’m more attached to the characters then the office. Plus my wife still likes it so
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
And it can still have some great episodes. Like the one with Marshall’s father. Or the one with John Lithgow.
Basically the episodes that are good involve fathers.
John Lithgow brings a little extra something to everything
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He made a show about aliens on earth somewhat endearing
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
The ones with Dauber as Marshall’s dad, especially the last one were awesome. Chris Elliott was a dud though
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He was ok
I think the deadbeat angle didn’t leave him a lot to work with.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
Has anything that Chris Elliot been in been funnier because he was in it?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I enjoyed him to an extent in there's something about mary
But otherwise, good point.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
The one with Marshall's dad and the funeral after
were really good episodes, definitely a step up from what they had been doing the season before that.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
It was solid many good points
Gym
WTH do you want me to do here
Flight
One of my favorite TV actresses making an appearance
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think the Office writers realizing their star is not Andy but Mr. California is a good thing
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
The only shows I watch now are Walking Dead, American Horror Story, Young Justice, and Avengers: EMH.
Walking Dead is terrible, there, I said it
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I think the characters are cardboard
but the farmer’s daughter is cute
and the show is fun
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure a terrible show wouldnt have an after show, show, to talk about the show you just watched.
Somebody just sent up the mintxcore signal!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
to me it does, there is a reason things become popular, because almost everyone likes it, which makes it good!
Jersey Shore is not good. More people watching it does not make it better.
Pushing Daisies was a brilliant show. More people watching it would not have made it better.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
your argument is better when Arrested Development is used as the example of greatness not witnessed
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
that’s just AMC being pretentious, and copying Doctor Who Confidential
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Confidential has been cancelled? In England?
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
unless you are investing
derivatives suck
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Have you ever watched Justified?
Season 3 is coming and im catching up on season 1, because I pretty much started with season 2 which I thought was really good.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
“if forced to choose between signing Capuano and Juan Rivera (for $4 million in 2012) or Kuroda alone, I would have chosen Kuroda.”
I agree with you, although Capuano and Rivera’s 2012 salaries do not add up to what Kuroda was probably asking for. So throw in some of the other stuff.
All that hype for Pan Am
and it got cancelled? LOL. TV is a joke. I’ll stick with movies, alt news, and sports. And AMC and Top Chef.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
both of the
Mad Men clones (Pan Am, Playboy Club) were cancelled, and mostly because they got the details wrong and had nothing to say. I remember watching Pan Am with my grandma’s cousin (who’s totes boss and we hang out) and she was saying it looked weird because everyone looked like they’d just washed their hair, when that just didn’t happen in 1963
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
and none of them were wearing those obnoxious catcher’s mitt sized maxi-pads either
derivatives almost always suck
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
That and the tongue piercings and tramp stamps
were clear giveaways
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
whereas when we watch Mad Men, my cousin is saying stuff like “Oh hey, my friend Mike had that wall hanging in his living room too!”
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
just from watching the trailer
It looked like it was quickly going to turn into “who’s humping whom?”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
For Ivdown
Jake (St Louis): Has Kyle Russell’s stock risen or dropped since last year? Still in your top 30?
Jim Shonerd: Russell is still the same guy, and he is still in the top 30. The general opinion is still that if you give him a full season of at-bats in the majors, he could give you 20 or more homers with an average in the .230-.250 range and, of course, plenty of strikeouts.
If that’s the actual opinion Russell could help out at least 10 teams right now.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I was going with Jim Shonerd is way overestimating the general opinion.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Im hoping not
if for no other reason than I want to see the statline he puts up in a full season in ALB.
That’s what I’ve been sayin!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thanks for looking out
I know he won’t be great, but I still hold out hope he can make the majors and do something.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
Wow
I also thought they were talking about triple A, not the majors. That’s pretty cool. Clearly not a 3 or 4 win player, but maybe 1.5-2 with some good defense. If he develops a little bit more maybe better in the future.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
I think that is hope
I tend to think a lot of the grief is more about how to spend the money. I mean I think no matter how bad Mark Ellis hits, he’d do better than Justin Sellers or Ivan De Jesus but could you use the additional money more wisely.
Neither am I, but my wallet is out and the money is ready.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
better statement with only one added word
I hate everything except fucking
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is true.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
My man-crush 10 years ago for Harang won’t allow me to agree to this
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
At least it is the first signing in two years I like
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Every time I’ve thought Ned got a bargain we got burned hard.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
O-Dog was OK
Wolf pt. II, Lofton, Nomar’s first year…other than that, I think he’s overpaid for everybody at the time they signed (not counting Kuroda cos I didn’t know anything about him). Extensions, re-signings don’t count.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
but most thought he was overpaid at the time, right?
at least here, that’s what I hear since I wasn’t on TBLA then. I’m talking about perception of the contract at the time of signing.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
“Awwww, did poor baby get cwacked?”
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Silverwidowfish
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
did you think none of us have heard of the Louisiana Purchase?
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
here's a hint
he didn’t get his head chopped off
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
The orangutan.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Original name for Arizona: White Flagstaff
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
another BA question
Laura (San Francisco): I was surprised not to see Jonathan Garcia make an appearance. Could you summarize him for us?
Jim Shonerd: Garcia started off red hot last season, hitting seven homers in April in the Midwest League — not an easy thing to do. But he cooled off the rest of the year and ended up hitting .228/.290/.420 with 19 homers. He does have impressive power potential, but his approach was inconsistent last season and opponents could beat him by pitching backwards. He’s got a strong enough arm to stay in right field, where he played every day for Great Lakes in 2011, but he’s got below-average speed and will have to stay in shape.
done, although i've asked like 10 questions and haven't had any answered yet
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I asked Callis on Twitter today about why Rubby was left out of their 2015 projected rotation and got no answer.
Maybe should’ve tweeted using my g/f’s twitter account.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
You’re unsafe at any speed, G.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
CRAP!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
that dude is almost as famous as michael jordon if you are some whiney ass protester living in a tent on some city property somewhere
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I almost
wrote a long and thoughtful response to this reflecting both my understanding of the movement and my frustration with it, but I really didn’t want to have the rest of the conversation here or in print
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
there are few ways I could lose more respect for myself than by challenging someone over the internet to a fight
my self loathing thermometer would break like it does for cartoon fevers
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
reg wanted to know who the most recognizable pop culture figure of the 90s was
and if it was urkle
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
right, but how did that lead to Occupy LA?
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Because all of us in our 20s are whiners who want handouts and not pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
sure saw a lot of old folks in those protests….
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
those were just bums looking for a party
and hippies looking for a bit of that old magic
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Whiner. Bootstraps.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
well, if me and Grimjack are in the same room, there’s an average of .75 black people at the party : )
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
then it’s the Square Root of Puerto Rico, duh
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
being Sicilian
I add to the blackness of any room, but not by any quantified amount
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
are there black Italians like there are black Irish?
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I think it’s defined by hair color, but they’re supposed to be the bad seeds
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Matlock will put those young people where they belong.
Behind bars.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Makes sense, if they had been 26 and Hispanic they would have shut them down weeks ago.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
the truth
does it hurt? or set one free?
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
They say that if you love something, set it free, but I can’t agree.
If you love something, lock it up in a tiny cage and throw away the key, because you don’t want that shit getting lost.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
27
Holla
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
1. holla June 11, 2009 Urban Word of the Day 1. A word used to acknowledge the presence of a fellow companion 2. For a man to express interest in a particular female specimen 3. To contact via telephone 1. Is that mah boy ova there? HOLLAAAAA! 2. Watch out, I’m bout to holla at this fine bitch. 3. Boy, it was absolutely magnificent to see you again. Holla at me this evening, we can have tea and crumpets. buy holla mugs & shirts by Wise One Jan 4, 2005
Como no es esto verde?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 12:11 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 3 recs
Ya, but I don’t get what that has to do with occupy LA
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
hollywood joe is trolling the youngins
and showing his frat boy roots
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
That's MR Sparkle to you!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
@Jaypers413 (IL): Has RHP Ethan Martin’s stock risen, fallen or remained the same since you wrote this list last year? Are the Dodgers considering at all moving him back to 3B, or is his future on the mound?
Jim Shonerd: It’s dropped a bit since he hasn’t performed well for two years now, but Martin’s stuff is still there. He pitches in the mid-90s with a curveball that’s plus in flashes, but he’s been undone by his lack of feel for pitching and inability to repeat his delivery. The Dodgers didn’t express any signs of giving up on him as a pitcher in the near future. I’d expect he’ll be back in Chattanooga to start next year, as the Dodgers wanted to get him out of the Cal League.
When if finally sinks in that Kuroda is no longer a Dodger many of us will be sad Panda’s.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wasn’t it at Coors this year?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Oh man, I suck at putting 2 and 2 together
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I get 5 every time.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
I saw his first MLB game, a win in San Diego in April 2008. I was hooked from that point.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
They really don’t have much to work with other than big dreams and cool nicknames.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
They have sucked recently, not sure if Manuel did it last year but I used to enjoy his Chats.
Seems to be frigging slow if this is all Brandon has come up with
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The guy
is doing a good job answering the questions, his answers are just not very compelling (re the players).
He did think that Lee, Eovaldi and Webster should make the Top 100.
yeah i agree
not one of the better BA chats
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
trivia
what is ned on, that he keeps on giving second years to below average players…
what is ned on
The Dodger payroll. As GM.
What do I win?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
lolll
damn… winner…
but no joke this guy ned is making me sad to follow the dodgers… cause he keeps picking up these below average players for prices that if you combine, you can get 2 legit players…
i just cant imagine this team with capuano ellis rivera kennedy going to the playoffs…
To be fair Capuano is probably only going to get like 2.5 million this year.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Man, the Dodgers are still gonna suck in 2013 unless the new owner increases the payroll by, oh, a fuckton.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
The price you pay to get the guy you want. Cap would easily have gotten that second year from anyone who was serious about signing him.
I think the real question is why does he give that 3rd year to turds.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Using the Will Carroll property I’m now all for this.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks Mike Goldberg
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
as BTimmer pointed out on DT, Capuano is superior to Lilly in holding runners on
or having them thrown out.
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Seasons with WAR over 2:
Lilly – 7
Capuano – 1
Even if you ignore that Lilly almost always out pitches his FIP, Chris Capuano is only Ted Lilly if Lilly got hurt all the time.
Bad Dave Cameron, bad.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Ethan Martin to return to starting apparently
jr (valencia,ca): What do you make of Ethan Martin? Is he now a full time reliever, or might he be able to continue working as a starter with the hope that he can develop into someone who can slot into a middle of a rotation?
Jim Shonerd: Already did a Martin question, but I want to add that the Dodgers say he will return to the rotation next year.
“Or give me 45 minutes with him”
/GScott
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 12:22 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
also, this clears up Guerra a little and BA's qualifications
Brandon (Pasadena): Does Javy Guerra still qualify as a BA prospect? He was under 50 IP, but do you have an appearance limit? If he does qualify, how close was he to making the top 10?
Jim Shonerd: Yes, we set the limits at 50 innings OR 30 appearances, and Guerra made 47 for the Dodgers this year.
I thought the Carp already offered him
a really small deal…
by Bard in Black on Dec 2, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Like all other Carp
Too bony
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
My son will be thrilled at least
He’s become quite the Carp fan while living nearby. And he tells me that Carp fans desperately want him back.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Are you a fan of the Softbank Hawks or Hiroki Kuroda’s couch?
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like I've missed a bit of news
Since I got blown back to 1875 technology-wise. Still without power to the house.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Hey, did the trees that fall do any damage elsewhere or did you just lose the tree’s?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Luckily no house damage
May have damaged a fig tree a little bit. Here’s some pics
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
My Gardener said
The recession is over for me, bitches! In Spanish of course.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ramon
my gardener is getting $350 to cut it up into fire wood and haul away the rest, as well as trim the other trees
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The Invisible Hand in action
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'm actually a Keynesian by nature
Ya gotta regulate those crooks
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Dec 2, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Chains saws be fun
One of the lead singers for the Runaways (teen age punk group) ended being a chain saw artist. For a while you could buy her stuff on Topanga Canyon just south of the 118. Bears, Eagles, cool shit.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Cherry Curry, right?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Sure wasn’t “I hate myself for loving you”
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Definitely her
Cherie Currie also starred in an underrated early-80s sci-fi flick called Wavelength, which was ripped off by the better-known Starman, released a year or two later.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 2, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
couldn't park anywhere on the street at my in laws last night
there where big ass tree branches all over the road
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those dogs are like,
Finally we can pee on the top branches! Yes!
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
must be fun returning to the life you knew as a child
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Virtually the same
But without all the pancakes my mother used to make
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and it must be harder finding a group of boys to play tag football with
by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
I feel whiny for complaining about losing power for an hour.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Lost power for about a day
though for me it was only for the night.
Yes, reg you should feel whiny about that. :) Just drink a few Makers Marks to bide your time.
Ate Cheez Its and drank Gin.
Actually that hour was pretty awesome.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
wow I knew it was a bit breezey but this...
is ridiculous
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Sustained winds at Mammoth: 150+ miles an hour bit.ly/tDej9i
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Oh Really Capuano for 2/10!?!?
haven't skied yet this year
first day will be Saturday, as long as it is not blowing lije it has been.
I did not have my phone or a camera with me, but that 300-400 trees blown over referenced in that article look pretty awesoke yesterday when I went to take a look.
by MammothDodger on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Gonna really miss Hiro
Used to think Capuano was awesome. That was like 5 years ago though
I got excited for a second
when saw the headline cause I wanted Capuano for the back of the rotation, then I also saw 2 years/10 mill (aka 3rd starter pay)
welp.
On a bad team.
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by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
With good D and arm, Russell could be an ideal bench bat/5th Outfielder no?
Jake (St Louis): Has Kyle Russell’s stock risen or dropped since last year? Still in your top 30?
Jim Shonerd: Russell is still the same guy, and he is still in the top 30. The general opinion is still that if you give him a full season of at-bats in the majors, he could give you 20 or more homers with an average in the .230-.250 range and, of course, plenty of strikeouts.
few want to believe that
Only me and Ivdown believe he could be anything more.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I never said I didn't htikn he could be anything
I just don’t see it as likely and he’ll have to wade through a lot of other outfielders to even get a shot
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I didn't say
You said that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:07 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Don’t see any mention of you
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:10 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I never tire of this image
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Me neither
Though people need to mix in this one more, too
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honestly I see that one all the time
and am sick of it. Stupid reddit.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Hah. Sorry, but, I'm not on Reddit. And... Futurama, you know. FTW.
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Don't eyeball me Leo
This is between me and nolander
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
actually well, I guess it had to come out eventually
I’m leo
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Thought you were a Pisces
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
(did you get the reference?)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Gotta believe in that power potential
I think if more of our prospects had panned out like Laroche, Guzman, etc, I wouldn’t be so hopeful for russell.
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In Capuano’s 1st start, he throws a 9 inning shutout, Jerry Sands and Juan Rivera hit solo homers. Headline: Sands, Juan, Capuano
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 2, 2011 1:03 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
you’re saying uribe can’t hit home runs?
by dodgerpreacher on Dec 2, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
If you could work swallows into that
You’d have a career in newspapers. And if you had a career in newspapers, you’d be a miracle worker
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
they need to be playing an exhibition in Japan for that
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Mark Hendrickson and Randy Johnson sign with the Orioles, we play them in interleague, same result: Tall O’s Return to Sands, Juan, Capuano
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 2, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
There are online news sources with headlines. Or is that what you meant?
by lnickerson88 on Dec 2, 2011 4:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
interesting...
hmmmmm
only way this doesn’t go “over” is either a serious injury or he gets flipped next season. Even if he gets flipped he may hit the 250 with the Dodgers by then. I would probably take the over, but wouldn’t wager much on it as the line is probably just slightly too low. I may have to run a seasonal over/under contest on each player on the 25 man roster.
I dislike this deal. I’ll dislike it less if Hiro is going back to Japan. If he ends up staying in the states, I’ll dislike it more,
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2011 1:07 PM PST reply actions
Considering how much most of us don’t like Juan Rivera’s chances, he’ll probably put up a 30/100 line for the first time in his career and out hit Matt Kemp’s even year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m willing to bet that if given even plate appearance Sands outhits Rivera.
Not even factoring in the defensive value differential.
I’ve never collected on the beers I’ve won
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hiroki Kuroda’s days as a Dodger are over.
is this being reported anywhere official? Or are we just assuming?
Not official
But written on the wall.
Right next to “For anal call …”
Somewhere Demetri Martin is saying, “Man, a lot of people crap with pens.”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 1:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
i was about to post that!
“I like jill but just as a friend”
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I thought it was for a good time call??
Speaking of which, I thought 867-5309 would have been awesome to sing at karaoke, but i realized that in the drive home that night.
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You know why I couldn’t care less about his deal.
Because Magic is coming to Town
and he’s bringing plenty of mullah with him
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Honestly, it’s been clear for a while that 2013 has been the Dodgers’ reboot year, and to some extent we should be happy there’s a budget limit that keeps Colletti from making any big mistakes that would undermine that.
by JonWeisman on Dec 2, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I would have liked to sign Prince, but what can you do.
There aren’t really any appealing FA next year (at least on the position player side)
a reboot with a locked down Matt Kemp is pretty dang close to xmas morning for me
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. Colletti did nothing to destroy the future (2013 and beyond) of the Dodgers “this” off-season. I am thankful for budgets too.
The 2013 Dodgers lose Loney and Ethier and already have a payroll of 90-95 million.
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Considering Frank filed for bankruptcy
Not that big.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Really?
I think the assumption we have richer owners it going to be hard to make an ass out of me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Okay, richer sure. Willing to spend more on payroll who knows.
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I guess you never know, until you know. But why would some group spend a billion or more just to come in and spend a little bit over Frank money? Dont they see Dodger fans wont accept that anymore? As ive said before I fully expect new ownership to fun a minimum 140 million payroll yearly. Hopefully closer to 150… This is LA god dammit, no way Philly should out spend us IMO.
we where like 12th in payroll
spending 110 million is not small market or arguably even mid market
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
and Webster and Eo!
our rotation will be cheap and amazing!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
and our bullpen full of good arms
like withrow martin guerra lindblom elbert! wgt
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Jansen will have 50 saves, 100K, and only give up runs when used in the 8th inning of games we are a head of 5 – 0.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Phil Garner’s coming out of the pen?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And then he gives up only three until the walk-off double.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t wait for Fleece Hijab Night
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 2, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha.
RT @TrippingOlney Not Buster Olney
ANDREW BAILEY IS A GREAT TRADE PIECE FOR THE A’S WHO ARE SEEKING PROSPECTS THAT WILL ONE DAY BE TRADE PIECES FOR MORE PROSPECTS.
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by underdog on Dec 2, 2011 1:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Finally got some questions answered while I was at lunch
Brandon (Pasadena): Were any scouts impressed with Angel Sanchez? He had a great ERA and batting average against, especially for a Dominican player making his professional debut in the Midwest League, but his K/9 was a bit suspect. Did he make your top 30?
Jim Shonerd: Sanchez is in the top 30, definitely a name to watch going forward. He’s got a power arm, throwing his heater at 92-96 mph, and a quality changeup. His slurvy curveball is a work-in-progress though, and he needs to tighten his command.
Brandon (Pasadena): What happened to Pedro Baez? Any talk about moving him to the mound?
Jim Shonerd: Baez injured his left (non-throwing) shoulder diving for a ball. That was the same shoulder he’d already hurt in 2010. As far as his performance goes, Baez is just a really streaky hitter. He’s got plus power and is an outstanding defender with a cannon arm, but he goes through stretches where he gets out of rhythm and swings through everything. And yes, one Dodgers exec did in fact mention the possibility of putting him on the mound. Not saying it’s going to happen soon, but it’s something to keep in mind.
He sounds like he could be a simlar player to Matt Dominguez
Just a bit worse fielding and a better bat. I wish he could put it together.
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http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa392144&position=3B
Baez has legit raw power but he flat out sucks at hitting
The last two years his hitting has been horrid
But with the injuries the last two years that could have really hurt his bat. I’d be interested to see if he could hit anywhere around .265/.325/.475 if he can stay healthy.
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He'd do that as a third baseman with really good defense and an amazing arm
He’d get a shot in Spring Training for the 2013 season if he did something like that.
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Ben Sheets is one of four players to get traded to the Cubs.
Three, Sheets to the Wind.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Dec 2, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Magic will gently ask him to retire, when he does not get the hint then Magic’s people will gently remind him he needs to retire. Mahorn may need to come out of retirement.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not Baez
Our 37th round pick from this year will be the man to lead us back to the WS, whoever he is!
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Reid Redman?
he was a 3rd baseman, but didn’t sign
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
does bobby = ivdown?
if so i was just messing with him
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I like your reasoning better
We will get a new Andy Laroche in the 2012 draft :)
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More power then Matt
Might be equal in fielding, surely has a better arm
Less average
Until you jump off the Russell bandwagon I will stay on the Baez bandwagon.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm all for rooting for a guy with his power potential and fielding to develop
especially at 3b. Go Baez.
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Brandon (Pasadena): Who would you say is the biggest sleeper in the Dodgers minor league system?
Jim Shonerd: Angel Sanchez is a good one as a guy not many people know about yet. Another one is righthander Scott Barlow, the Dodgers’ sixth-round pick this year. His fastball was fringy in high school, but he added weight after the draft and was pitching at 90-93 and touching 94 in instructional league. He has a quality curveball that’s his best secondary pitch, along with a slider and changeup. The Dodgers were also encouraged by his clean mechanics and feel for pitching.
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2011 1:35 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
WOOO!
and ya’ll already judged this draft to be shit :-p
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I have asked Sickels to not post his Dodgers top 20 over the weekend
Wonder if he’ll listen
Mostly selfish as I typically don't check sports blogs much on weekends
but I feel like a lot of discussion gets lost if the list gets posted over the weekend vs. when everyone is sitting in front of their computers all day.
HQ delayed their Dodger top 15 until tomorrow so Monday will be a busy day with prospect stuff from Sickels/HQ. Though I think Sickels just gives grades since he wants you to buy the book for the scouting report. And other then saying whoa we have 1 A, 2 B+, 2 B’s and a whole lot of C’s don’t see how much use it will be without the scouting reports.
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Do you think Lee gets an A grade?
Or was Rubby available on his list?
I think last year there were only around 20-25 A’s, if i’m correct.
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Sickels’ stuff posted on the online top 20 is accompanied by like 2 – 3 lines of commentary, but yes, not as detailed as in the book.
I don’t think we will have an A to begin with.
I don't see how Gould can't be at least a B-/B
Also I see Webster and Eo being higher.
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At best A-, though I think he's on the cusp so he will get a B+
My guesses:
Lee – B+
Eovaldi – B+
Webster – B
Reed – B
Gould – B- (though I would say he’s close to a B)
Withrow – B (I’ve got a feeling he’ll go higher on him than a B-)
I’m not sure after that there will be many B’s or B-’s.
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No way he’s an A (I think). I don’t like the grading system but there’s way too little data for an A grade.
Yeah A means guaranteed solid major leaguer. Lee very much fits the definition of a B.
Grade B prospects have a good chance to enjoy successful careers. Some will develop into stars, some will not. Most end up spending several years in the majors, at the very least in a marginal role.
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Does anyone have an A?
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Ok
I’ve given up trying to prove my point. However I’m still not saying who the truly best prospect is because only time shall tell.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Do you actually understand what I'm trying to say?
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
The best prospect
will be the one who does best in MLB.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
By definition, this is not true.
The best “prospect” is the best “prospect”. That doesn’t necessarily mean he will be the best MLB player. Just that he has the best chance to be the best MLB player.
True but how well he will do
is so debatable that it’s hard to really argue about it.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I am trying to?
I am not. However this can be discussed better than argued. Let us discuss each prospect one at a time, I can tell ya what I think if you want.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Name a highly ranked Dodger prospect, and then give us your thoughts on him?
How’s that?
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Zach Lee; Dodger #1 prospect or not?
I say yes, because of his maturity for age, number of pitches and upside.
There: Your turn to say something substantial.
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I’m surprised at this series of events:
1) Rubby goes #4 overall last year despite me and a couple others pimping him HARD before the voting because of his 100mph potential
2) Rubby, if eligible, would have been the #1 prospect this year
3) Nate Eovaldi gets no real mention, despite also having 100mph potential.
You know Eo will be loved this year
…before his next tommy john surgery, lol.
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I agree with you here.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Ok.
I think he’s not been with us quite long enough to really tell, he could be great but not necessarily. Either way, he has a lot of stages of Minor League Ball ahead of him before he sould get to the Majors and there’s no way of telling how he’ll do.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Or you could name 'em.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
He's good
He’s proven he can perform at the MLB level, at least for a bit. He’s quite decent but I don’t see him developing into more than a #2 starter.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Follow up question
Do you consider that to be poor, good, great, or exceptional in regards to a prospect’s ceiling?
Meaning: do you think the fact that Eovalid will at best oly ever be a #2 starter means he’s a bad, good prospect or a top tier one?
It means solid
Not many weaknesses just not an Ace.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
A legit #2 starter is an exceedingly valuable player. Also, what people consider a “#2 starter” usually is somewhere between the 20th and 40th best SP in the game. This is because people suck at math.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Truth.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Or they don’t consider the dregs of the league real teams.
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Prospect: a : the act of looking forward b : a mental picture of something to come c : something that is awaited or expected
So, if I'm understanding this correctly...
The best prospect will ultimately be the one who years later in hindsight everyone agrees was the best, i.e., how Kershaw appears now. And thus there’s no point in even talking about it or having fun predicting or ranking because only time will tell.
Which is kind of annoying.
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Completely agreed
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
There isn't a point specifically
But yet we can still do it. I’m smiling.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
That's like predicting something after the fact
because it is
. I don’t even want to provide a simile because it would be so painfully obvious.
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Yes that no one really knows and time will tell.
Which is really annoying to people who put effort into this.
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When that’s the entire counter argument it’s insulting.
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Only time will tell if it's insulting.
Also: Only the Shadow knows!
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Never used that before.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Which is
technically all the prospects.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
some have a better chance than others of making it to the big leagues and having an impact at the big league level.
Why insult the process AND THEN VOTE
Hey wait a minute. I voted first. I’m not insulting the process, or at least not trying to, just the prospects right now are very hard to go through and say" Mr Garcia or whatever is the best.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
To be precise
A grade “A”
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I recall he's a pretty tough grader
so B+s are really good.
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Nickleback wins an exchange on Twitter against Braves pitcher Peter Moylan (who, apparently, exists).
Moylan's an Aussie
I wonder if he tweets @Silverchair to tell them to be more like @MidnightOil also.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Midnight Oil may beg to differ!
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Harumph!
(I really liked Go Betweens, too.) I’ll take either.
INXS was great too.
And, hello? Crowded House?
Split Enz was more New Zealand band really.
Some people like this little band called AC/DC (though not my favorite).
Men at Work somewhere far below them all (for not being that good for very long)
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The Clean were a great NZ band!
Midnight Oil were good, INXS too. I just like the Go-Betweens.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Capuano deal includes mutual option for 2014
Also, Ned quote:
"Chris is an established Major League starting pitcher who adds to our staff. He made more than 30 starts last season was a reliable part of the Mets rotation."
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 1:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I wish he had said
He made more than 30 starts last season was the only reliable part of the Mets rotation."
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Love it. 2 sentences containing nothing but facts but disguised somehow as being complimentary of a new signing.
That’s Nedspeak for “Meh.”
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 2, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yes my pet stat
Getting 25 or more starts from your first 5 starters is the road for at least being competitive.
I thought about that
but so few teams do it, not really.
It is a go to stat for teams like the Rays and Twins.
If Capuano did indeed have both TJ and Labrum, he has to be one of very few major league pitchers to have done both or even Labrum alone and come back to be successful.
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Lefty
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
For all we know he pitched through incredible pain so he could get a contract and will now ………….
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Out of 31 starts, Capuano made 16 last year, regardless of length, in which he held the opposition to two earned runs or less. He made exactly one start in which he allowed three earned runs.
They have these sites that are search engines
and you could search say ESPN or baseballreference.com and then you can look up a pitcher and check his 2011 game log.
is there a way to get BR to sort on more then one column?
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Its not that important enough for me to actually do the research…. I find it easier to just ask the question, and allow those who love doing these short of things for free answer it. Either way, we signed him, no need to spin it to make it look better then it is…. Its not a terrible signing, but its not Kuroda either.
so you value your time
more than ours. Fine No one actually loves to this, someone is using their time to perhaps advance an argument or provide information.
Oh come on when we have the time you know we love to flaunt our skills
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It is like showing Andre in Accounting how to
Cntrl : to get the date in a cell
or
Cntrl Shift : to get the time in a cell
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It's why when I have stuff like this i like to ask you guys first :)
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parks where he gave up 4 or more ER
NYY
CIN
FLA
DET
WSN
FLA
ARI
STL
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Rolando McLain got leave to visit his Grandfather's funeral when the... uh....
incident occured.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM PST reply actions
Oh Chris...
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This deal actually sounds slightly better to me now
RT @dylanohernandez: Capuano will earn $3 million in 2012 and $6 million in 2013. Buyout for the mutual option is $ 1 million.
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Notice only $3 mil next season. Further evidence that they are saving money in their final "pauper" year
before ownership change.
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No.
6 million “next season”. Right, regfairfield&co.?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
So would I
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
You should check out Dodger Thoughts
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why
Especially? I do it quite often.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Rrr
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
i felt it would be an even trade USC Chris for Trolley
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Oh how a few days can change things. At least Chris makes me laugh in the “did he really just say that?” sort of way. Trolley just makes me want to punch kittens.
Whoah whoah calm down.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
I did say back in September
that the Dodgers had accounted for the entire Bridge loan through 2011 (I think they projected about a $20M cash reserve at the end of 2011).
So it would not surprise me that by April or early May, MLB has to start paying the payroll.
Hopefully new owner by then, but yes I don’t see how the bridge loan lasts past spring.
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It will be interesting what happens re who has to pay back the loan
It is the Dodgers who owe the money, not McCourt. Obviously a buyer generally assumes all liabilities of the previous ownership. But this is also part of the Bankruptcy Reorg so I guess it would have to be dealt with there.
We still have something left
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
so its only 10 million of he sucks or is mediocre
but if he is good it’ll be 9?
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guaranteed $10mil regardless. Paid out as 3, 6, 1. If the option gets picked up, it’ll be 3, 6, whatever the option is worth, no buyout.
couldn't it be 3,6 we pickup our side, he declines
then no 1 million
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that doesn't make any sense to me
why not just call it defered money
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Because he’s not guaranteed to get it, only if he’s not a Dodger.
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Because it is not deferred money. It is entirely dependent on whether or not the 2014 option is exercised.
its rolled into his 2014 salary if we pick it up you mean?
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The mutual option is for 2014? the buyout is 1 million, but if we mutually agree, how much does he get in 2014?
2013 Dodgers
C – Someone .5
1B – Someone .5
2B Ellis 5.25
SS Gordon .5
3B Uribe 7
LF Someone .5
CF Kemp 20
RF Someone .5
SP Kershaw 10
SP Bills 11
SP Lilly 13
SP Capuano 6
SP Rubby .5
Bench – Someones 5
Bullpen
Guerrier 4.75
Somones 3
Manny 8.5
Andruw 3
Rivera .5
Total: 100
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Are you sure
that The payroll won’t go up with new owner?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
But if Ethier has a decent season…
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Or lazy, no one knows our system better then we know our system. i keep telling you guys that.
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I say this every year and then get crapped on but I feel like BA is especially lazy when it comes to the Dodgers.
We do not crap on that sentiment. Do we?
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I’ve heard this sentiment before when piling on means two people had a problem compared to the 30 regulars who post. But maybe you are right, but since I believe this to be true, and I suspect Michael and David do, and Eric hardly ever indulges in prospect talk, I’m going to be a non believer. Then again maybe I was in one of my combative moods and was arguing with anyone.
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- 3 years/$35M (2012-14), plus 2015 club option
* signed extension with LA Dodgers 3/29/11
* 12:$9M, 13:$11M, 14:$12M, 15:$14M club option ($3M buyout)
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he needs to starting throwing inside
if he hits the batter, fuck it. As long as he doesn’t leave it over the thick of the plate
Exactly. And he needs to throw his curveball harder, give the changeup and curve more of a timing difference.
He needs to pitch better, does that cover it?
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But Rubby won't be in 2015 rotation
/BA
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As I see it
2012 Dodgers
Offense-Average at best
Defense- Pretty good
Starting pitching- Mediocre as a whole
Bullpen- Very good
Bench- Lots of Adam Kennedy
Not if Loney and Kemp put up 25 HR and 50/50 respectively.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
The rotation ended up top 5 in the NL, top 3 the year before
With Bills doing better I think they will have no problem being top 5 again.
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If Uribe Sands and Dee give us 2 war apeice
where does that leave us
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Chris Petersen apparently turned down UCLA.
Oh, and the $2mil for assistant coaches that was getting tossed around for some reason is actually less than what Boise State pays their assistant coaches.
This is not shocking, what was shocking was that anyone thought he’d leave Boise for UCLA. JMO
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Butch Jones, Kevin Sumlin… Who are these guys? ESPN has them listed in a poll for UCLA coach… Are they up and coming coaches? Thats where you need to go.
But to be honest, what do I know… I hated it when Pete Carroll got hired, as I assume the majority of SC fans and LA media did, and he was great. So you never know I guess. Mike Bellotti is the other guy in the poll besides Peterson.
yeah, I guess maybe me, maybe other SC fans, just looked at how he did in NFL and thought he wasnt good…. But didnt take into account his personality, and his personality was made for college football, and recruiting, and still is better suited for college football IMO.
I still think coaching in college is 60% recruiting, 20% fundraising, 15% letting your assistants do their thing and 5% coaching ability.
I’d greatly increase the assistant %
and motivation has to has it’s own %
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your coaching ability percentage goes up
when you are your own defensive coordinator
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I just looked since you didnt name a team… he’s the Houston coach… yeah that would be a solid choice IMO.
oh yeah, Butch Davis, duh… the Miami coach late 90s… current UNC coach… He wouldnt be a bad move either.
Butch Jones is who was most likely mentioned. He is the current head coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats.
Butch Davis is someone you would hire if you want your program to look dirtier than your cross town rivals.
oh yeah, shit I said Butch Jones in the beginning too…. Well if he is current coach of Bengals HC why is he even in the poll? Arent Bengals doing pretty solid this year? I dont think he goes anywhere.
Oh I agree but a lot of UCLA fans seemed to think there was a real chance of it happening. Not all their fans, but a lot did.
You are probably right though
my sources (another website to be honest) are saying that nothing it is definitive and certainly nothing has been made public. I am sure something will happen over the weekend (BSU’s last regular season game is tomorrow and their team banquet is on Sunday night).
However when your new AD says yesterday that his main priority is to keep your head football coach, I believe there was something going on.
That’s life at a small school. Every year we have to deal with a number of bigger programs wanting to pry Petersen away, so pretty much every year that’s going to be the AD’s #1 priority. I believe Petersen probably listened to UCLA (just like he did 4 years ago) to see what they were offering but I’m guessing he wasn’t going to sign there unless he was given an offer he just couldn’t refuse.
Remember in 2009
When we had Stults, Milton, Kershaw, and Wolf all at once? Shit was cray.
@TElciram
Milton?
Oh yeah I just remembered who he was. Yeeeaaaahhhh, him.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
07 was when he actually threw 6 starts.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1131&position=P
Yeah he also got 4 in 2009. Wow, he was so awful.
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Yep.
And cost a whole lot all for that.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Someone in my office keeps blaring NFL highlights that can be heard throughout my whole office. Hilarious.
This reminds me
I accidentally blared a Beatles song on my iPod speaker when it was set to full blast. Nobody seemed to notice and/or care.
Remember Takahashi Saito?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions
No, this is a Padre blog, why would we remember the guy who came over as an NRI and put up one of the greatest relief seasons ever seen by Dodger fans.
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Exactly
This seems to be the reason people talk about Broxton, Tomko even, Gagne, but not Joe Beimel or Saito for that matter.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
"Broxton, Gagne, even Tomko"
is how that should have been.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
not sure if troll
or just don’t get it
by dodgerpreacher on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Joe Beimel and Saito were good
but it just seems that nobody mentions them these days.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
That comment shocked me so much I slammed my glass down, shattering it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And hurting your hand?
Ending your sesaon on a down note?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
With the Dodgers?
I remember him being good.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
We all loved Saito and gave him plenty of love here.
Called him “Sammy” we did!
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Can you name this pitcher
Generally considered a bust:
In August: 8.2 Dom, 2.5 Ctl, 46% GB%
In September: 8.7 Dom, 2.6 Ctl, 51% GB%,
Might be hitting his stride.
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Though if he had become a Dodger we would all be sad Panda’s because of the ramifications
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Because he would of been drafted before us?? If so, then maybe we take Lincecum, and then were WS champions in 2008, if not 2009 as well…. so therefore, no sad panda here!…haha
I don't think Lincecum will have enough momentum to stay on top of his game for a while.
Kershaw, though, will.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
That may be true, and I know im in the minority on this, but I’d trade Kershaw for a Dodgers WS championship right now… and its just my opinion if we had Lincecum, we’d have 1 ring right now, if not more. But no way to knopw that forsure… just Kershaw was what he is today when we needed this in 08 etc…. Remember I was 10 in 88, so im super hungry for a Dodgers championship… Probably would be even if I was 20 in 88
Though
the worse the better, if you take my meaning.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
We'd want to keep better players
like Kemp and Kershaw. But other ones, if they could get us a ring, might be better trades.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
To trade for a ring.
We would rather trade someone other than Kemp or Kershaw for a ring.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 3, 2011 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
I'd agree
Good thing we dont have to make that decision. But the Dodgers have never won a world series during my lifetime.
Comp picks weren’t around then.
If Hochevar is gone, KC picks Andrew Miller, Detroit takes Kershaw, we take Bryan Morris.
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and Verlander/Kershaw slice through Texas and St. Louis like a hot knife through butter this season.
Playing IvDown What if
Maybe we trade Hochevar, LaRoche, Loney for Miggy
Round about way we still make good.
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Bingo
Just keep him in mind next year during your drafts.
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I think I’ve take Hochevar in the last round of my last three drafts. It’s very sad.
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Ryan vogelsong?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Roy Oswalt
or Mark Buehrle?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Clubhouse Confidential had a good segment on it
Kenny basically said he was worthy because of his position value and postseason contributions, plus the career OBP and SLG. He matched up well with Puckett, who amazingly is the only CFer from the last 40 years in the Hall.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
one of the great tragedies in baseball
Griffey never even played in a World Series. I remember him mashing when he played in the playoffs in his prime, they just couldn’t get there.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
more of a life tragedy
He couldn’t have accomplished more in the game than he did when he died, he was 38. The baseball tragedy was that the Dodgers let him get away.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
They already had Skoonj.
Who was still very good
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
This is not implying that Clemente wouldn't have been better.
’Cause he would have.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
If you look at his bat alone he’s borderline. If you consider his god awful defense he’s Hall of Very Good.
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Wasn’t he only poor at the end of his career? I remember him having good range and an arm that played.
Started off pretty decent, but he became more immobile the better he hit.
Also his peak is great, but it’s right in the middle of the steroid era so it’s not quite as good as it looks.
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Just a question
Does anyone actually get the username?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
We know the Dodgers name is based on dodging Brooklyn Trolley’s if that is the question.
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Yes.
Point is that I’m not sure if everyone does.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone here is required to have read:
http://www.amazon.com/Things-Dodgers-Should-Before-Things-Fans/dp/1600781667/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322868432&sr=8-1#reader_1600781667
before being allowed to post.
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I’m pretty sure everyone does.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I hope so.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
People here are pretty aware and knowledgeable of all things baseball and then some. You really need some better game.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Are you saying I’m not knowledgeable?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Not being understood does not count.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
No one is saying that
You are ambiguous for no reason and it’s pretty confusing, then you say puzzling things besides those first things.
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As a group, we’re smarter than you think! I doubt if many here scratched their head for long pondering the significance of my username….
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Clearly you hate Leno.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Only the former.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Kind of, sometimes a new member makes the cumulative blog better, sometimes it does not……..
Wonder what the Borg does when that happens?
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When what happens?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 2, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
the borg is so large it doesn't really matter
just a tear lost in the rain
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So when Capuano’s tasked with the basics of a starting pitcher’s job and has to see a big-league lineup a third time around, he gets lit up like its Christmas
It would have been nice if Kahrl had presented some numbers to back this up. Maybe I missed them earlier in the article
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After those first two times through an order, his bag of tricks wasn’t working as well, as batters hit .324 and slugged .580 in their third and fourth at-bats against Capuano.
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Good question – I bet it is a bit normal with guys making five million or less who are not team controlled.
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Angels sent out a press release saying Trout will in fact be eligible as a rookie in 2012. Haven’t read the details.
well then he is going to win rookie of the year
thats the deal yo!
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League average 3rd time through order: .275/.336 /.435
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Gosh, you’d think with those numbers pitchers could do better then five – six innings.
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he isn' far off the OBP mark!
and x-fip says he was unlucky so there! suck it number nerds!
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Ted Lilly
6th Inning OPS Against 1.014
Shocking that we don’t want Lilly pitching more then five innings.
This is hard to believe.
Ted Lilly only threw 30 Innings after the fifth inning last year.
Am I reading this right?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=lillyte01&year=2011&t=p
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sounds right to me
they gave up on him right quick after the 5th
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Yep, but that still does mean he went passed the 5th in half his starts. Such great heights.
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10/2 ain’t buying you CC Sabbathia. He going to make less then Matt Guerrier in 2012.
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Sure but when the best case scenario is still worse than what we’ve got from Kuroda still pretty unexciting.
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Okay, he’s unexciting, he’s not replacing Kuroda, he’s replacing Garland. Kuroda is simply a huge hole in the rotation right now.
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Bills is replacing Kuroda
Lilly is replacing Bills, and Capuano is replacing Lilly. we need a 5th starter
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sometimes not making a choice is the best answer
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think the argument is still less Capuano vs Kuroda and more
whether just signing Kuroda and not picking up any of those position/bench players (plus Capuano) would have been worth the trade. There’s a good argument, as Eric suggested, that it still would’ve been.
I understand where Ned is coming from though, farm system doesn’t have enough good position players to step in right now, they needed position players, ownership has severely limited their budget, etc. He didn’t have the greatest options. Still, it can definitely be argued, spend on Kuroda only (if, again, that was an option, don’t know the behind the scenes stuff with HK or what he wanted)
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if we don't sign anyone
and just offer kuroda 12 million I don’t think he signs with us because he is sick of losing imho.
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yeah that's what I'm gathering. Again we don't know for sure
but seems like that was one reason he was hemming and hawing… So it’s all kind of moot anyway.
He probably hoped, like many of us did, that they could afford to sign Prince Fielder, etc. Probably understandably didn’t want another year where he got little run support.
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if he wanted to win so badly
why wouldn’t he go to Texas or Boston or NYY, unless he just wants to win with the Dodgers or go home.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
because he just wants to win the dodgers
or not move out of SOCal and will just end up with the angels
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Argument is actually whether times through the order is a skill or predictable.
Discussions on The Book Blog have been fascinating. :o
by Chad Moriyama on Dec 2, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Lame signing
Don’t understand the second year, don’t understand the crappy veteran strategy especially after last year it was proven this team can be mediocre to bad without an excess of crappy vets. Ned being Ned I guess.
Mike Squires
This has been bugging me all week but finally decided to look it up.
We all gave (me mostly) Dodger Trolley a bunch of shit when he suggested moving Loney to 3rd base. We all know how ridiculous an idea it is to have a left handed throw play 3rd base. True
However I knew some dude on the White Sox did it way back when.
His name was Mike Squires and he was a fabulous 1st baseman, for 13 games including 4 starts in 1984 he played 3rd base. So it has been done.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1012371&position=1B#fielding
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I remember Mike Squires, partially because my best friend growing up, or at least his family, was friends with Squires
So he used to talk about him a lot, more than his talent really deserved.
But yeah… that’s a claim to fame for him. It does happen. But it’s very rare, and for a reason. And won’t happen with Loney. Whose lack of power consistency would still be a liability at 3rd and his defense would be worse.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So. Loney is the answer.*
*For 4 starts
by lnickerson88 on Dec 2, 2011 4:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I mentioned it the other day
Mike Squires (4 starts) and Don Mattingly (2 starts) are the only two LH to start at 3B since 1919
Dam, the front girl is smokin!! The rest, what the fuck happened?? They could only afford 1 hot cheerleader?
I’m still wondering what is the problem
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No actual Houston Texans in that picture = fail?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Maybe he hates those who pretend to care?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
maybe he thinks players sit Indian style for the national anthem
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Maybe he does not like dazzling blonde’s?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
some men like cherry pie
others apple, still others chocolate cream
me?
I like desert
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
I fucking LOVE dessert
I’m thinking nachos for dessert tonight
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Oh, the same ole same ole, I was hoping for something more
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
what you actually expected me to contribute in a meaningful way?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
You posted a picture of nice looking ladies, you already contributed, regardless of mysterious context.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I’d slide down that chimney.
I’d jingle those bells.
I’d deck those halls.
I’d one horse open that sleigh.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I'd bough that Holly.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I want a
MIIIIISSSSSSSTRESSSSSSSS FOR CHRISTMAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Its the holiday season! With the whoop-de-doo and hickory dock, I see a hot chick and I whip out my sock.
by uschris0304 on Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
honestly its really stupid
and i’m not even sure if it makes sense anymore
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Mike Trout will be a rookie in 2012.
Chris Capuano will be a Dodger.
Hiroki Kuroda will not be a Dodger, because a lot of people crap with pens.
Rides on the Trolley are free, but once you are on it’s damn near impossible to get off
Oregon will cover their 31-point spread tonight
shit thats tonight?
steak, football, I might even beer myself!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
fuck by the time I get my steak and get home it'll be a blowout!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I do not like a thing you are saying there
well, I guess I can live with Capuano, seems like a value signing to me
but the rest can all go to hades
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm eating steak for dinner!
now I just have to acquire steak and a meat thermometor
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Why?
You’re worried if the steak has a fever?
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 2, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
har har har
so I can cook it to the proper doneness silly
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I've tried to understand that
they all fel the same to me
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touch closer to the thumb stem
it works
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
in the photo above (not mine, Eric’s) I think the index finger is a little too much towards the center of the hand – move it closer to base of them and lightly press, now move your thumb from finger to finger and you will feel muscles activate which “toughens” the thumb
that is the texture of meat accordingly to doneness
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
yes, touching the food is a good test too
but remember to remove the steak at least 5 degrees less than what you are aiming for, steak (and most things) will continue to cook and raise the internal temp for 10 minutes or so after removal from heating source.
Nolander will eat his Steak Tartare
And he will like it
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 2, 2011 4:45 PM PST reply actions
goddamn, just made me hungry
love that shit
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
The girlfriend is cooking dinner, portobello stuffed mushrooms with sausage. But she accidentally bought breakfast sausage. Sure it will turn out good, though.
will be fine
and have the leftovers in the morning with eggs
bingo!
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
#firstworldproblems ;)
j/k, sounds tasty
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I’m smelling mushrooms and sausage. Is this blog a scratch ’n sniff?
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 2, 2011 5:00 PM PST reply actions
All we are is methane in the wind…
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 2, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions
I want to have something to root for will someone give me 30 points and UCLA?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Right Now
The entire UCLA team is praying in the end zone
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think the spread is 32
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 2, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Napolean Dynamite is now an animated show on FOX
WTF?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
Holy shit
The animated series already has a spot on Wikipedia.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 2, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
voting looks like a runoff between SVS and Late Night (tied)
Songco one behind by a quick count
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
In hindsight
Oregon’s crushing loss to USC didn’t hurt their Natty chances as Alabama failed to do their part and lose. Sure hope Okla St. wins for the rankle factor. Alabama’s strength of schedule vs. Okla St is no slam dunk. You can spin it that OSU played a tougher sched.
oregon's offense
can’t evcen properly horsecollar right now
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woo! Damn, now I'm starting to regret not placing a little wager on that hefty point spread...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
UCLA was obviously bored after clinching the division so quickly.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
ucla's offense still hasn't done much yet
only been 2 possesions though. Then again everyone knows oregon is a 2nd half team
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
...on the other hand...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Starship Troopers reboot!
they better stick closer to the book and at least have the power armor or else!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I think the original film was subversive in its way and don't see the point of a reboot imho...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Because we need a version that says shooting bugs in power armor is awesome without learning anything.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
I'm guessing you never read the book
neither did Vorheeven. Not a joke.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I did, though admittedly years and years ago...
Be curious to revisit it actually, now that they are doing a remake… Anyway, I wouldn’t expect a deeper version from the producer of the Fast and the Furious movies.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Just wondering
why is Oregon passing so much. I mean I have to follow the game via drive logs so I can’t see what is going on.
Closing in on 1100 comments
way to go everyone! But a big f-u from my computer trying to load them. :)
`
Seriously, how old is your computer?
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
It was after a UCLA fumble at midfield. Typical lightning fast drive. Culminated in a play action with the tight end being all alone by 10 yards in the back of the end zone
oh now i remember
i think i actually missed their 2nd score :-p
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HJ type question but maybe someone here can help. Has anyone been to ink?
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
I know plenty of folks who have been there
I have eaten at their sandwich shop.
By all accounts well worth the effort.
The Buick commercial with the exploding soda can is much better/funnier with the wife gloating to her husband rather than the earlier version with limited interaction.
in the world of "2 seconds later"
the husband says: “You know you’re cleaning this shit up right?”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
the kid should have eaten it
as soon as he felt oregons grubby hands on him
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I like untraditional uniforms most of the time
I still hate those wings on the orgeon shoulders
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remember when everyone would always be like
sec fast fast sec so fast faster then not sec fast fast fast sec? I lke to think oregon being so fast made espn shut up about that. Then again I don’t watch espn so maybe they still do that
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Daaaaamn
Petersen turned down a reported $4 million per year plus $3 million for his assistants from UCLA, per the LAT
thats not a persnoal foul in the nfl
ok maybe he did kind of hit him in the chinish area, but the led with his shoulder
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bruins cut it to 18
I think the spread was around 31-1/2, something in that range. Does Oregon cover?
don't worry
Magic will fix
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
If you told me before this game
that the Bruins would have 17 points at half time. I would have told you that’s odd.
well yeah
it divides unevenly
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
any of you guys(or gals)
happen to catch the Clubhouse Confidential today?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
a show on MLBN that looks at advanced stats
it’s good
Today they were talking about the perils of giving out long term deals.
Joe(Joel?) Sheenan is a frequent guest, and they were just talking about guys getting big deals based on either fluke years or just the GM overestimates what a player actually is.,
Immediately I thought of Ned…….and Uribe.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Did they say you can look like nostradamus if you just predict doom for every free agent signing?
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
showing that
a lot of the biggest bust contracts, they should have seen coming.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
you don't get MLB network?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
doesn’t come with my cable bundle. I had mlbtv during the season. And best of all I have TBLA 24/7
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see the one with Sheehan up yet
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks. Cherry picking bad contracts. Makes me wonder what have been the best long term contracts for a player who signed at the age 30 or older?
I haven’t seen the video to know the parameters, but I would put up Randy Johnson’s four-year deal with the D-Backs (1999-2002) up against any of them.
the vid
was talking about 6 and 7 year deals
like Brown, Hampton, Dreifort, Zito
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
right
they were saying that his K/9 and WHIP should have been huge red flags
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
his last one for sure
but this next one is the “over 30” one, and it will make some reparations for the value provided the Cards over the last decade.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
I think they were just saying
those contracts that were (or are seen as) the big busts had evidence as to why they were a bad idea
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
they trollin me
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
of course she lost
she was throwing into the Dr. Pepper Ten can
IT’S NOT FOR WOMEN!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
a whole quarter after this
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Wow Chris Capuano?!
If this was 2005, I’d say an offseason of Capuano, Ellis, Rivera, and Kennedy would have been pretty good.
Alas, its 7 years later.
this really is a classic ned offseason
Capuano – 5mil per year (Is he a 5mils bet better than Eovaldi)
Rivera – 4.5 mils (Sands/Gwynn)
Ellis – 4.4 (Miles/Sellers)
Treanor – 1mils (Fed/Griff..backup catcher who cares…why pay 1mils for it?)
Thats almost 15 mils.
My problem with these deals is the same thing every year.
Instead of signing 1 building block difference making core player (at least paying for the 1st yr of a multi-yr deal)…you end up signing 4 guys that dont help for the future, and wont be the difference in winning anything in the present.
Whats the point?
by Joey Joe on Dec 2, 2011 8:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ned plugs holes so fast he should be called The Spackler.
by kinbote on Dec 2, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The problem is that he covers concrete holes with asphalt and paper money, meaning they’ll be holes again in six months.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 3, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
that would be some bowl game...
One team that is 6-7.
The other team is 6-6, and has dropped 6 games in a row.
just saw Magic on Sportscenter
i may have a new favorite for new owner
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
LAT article (sorry, it's Plaschke, though free of a lot of his crap.)
I love this quote
“I wish we had the team already, I would have been at Albert Pujols’ house at 12:01 a.m. on the first day of free agency,” Johnson said with a laugh. “I can’t wait.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
I had this mental image of Magic with a boombox held over his head
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
by Maddz on Dec 2, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
playing
I Love LA
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
HAHAHAHAHA
/Albert wakes up
“Honey, honey, what the hell is that?”
“Whu—huh?”
“What is that noise?”
“…Victory Boulevard…WE LOVE IT!”
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I wish that, too, Magic, I wish that, too. Sigh.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I freaking love Magic Johnson :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
This is when people need to take a step back and realize he’s not going to be the one making the financial or baseball decisions. He’s the pretty face to have out front. He’ll have little say over how much money is spent and who it is spent on.
that's all he said in that quote
but if the money man is a guy with 125 billion in backing, I’d be fine with Magic gladhanding and recruiting players.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
my personal wishlist for GM
has to have Friedman No. 1 unless he goes to Houston.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
I have a feeling its going to be easy to come up with nicknames for Capuano
so that’s cool.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
And he does a good John Madden impression.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
nobody tell him how to get back to Dodger Stadium
by eitherethier on Dec 3, 2011 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Capuano
Has great stuff. At least he did in his shutout. Nice slider and change.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 3, 2011 7:43 AM PST reply actions
Angels trade Jeff Mathis
to Toronto for pitcher Brad Mills. I am surprised they actually got something for him. I think the Angels GM is hoping that Toronto flips him to Texas.
ah brad mills looks pretty bad
I guess Mathis’s defense is considered highly by more then just Sosh
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We should have taken the Jays trading Napoli for Frank Francisco as a sign.
In the end it really doesn’t matter the extra 600K Mathis will make over generic backup catcher won’t change anything and Brad Mills will never be heard from again, but it is funny that the Angels got more for Mathis than they did for Napoli.
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by regfairfield on Dec 3, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
There
Is no chance of snow here but it is really cold
by bhsportsguy on Dec 3, 2011 9:46 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I see it as
Kershaw
Billingsley
Lilly
Eovaldi/Withrow/Webster (3-way dance in Spring Training for the 4th spot)
Capuano
Mixes up the L-R a bit, too.
DodgerOfTrolleys got everyone hyped for ScottVanSlyke
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by regfairfield on Dec 3, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
heh
to me him and castle are the same person but Castle has an extremely low chance of being able to play 2nd base.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I don’t think either Withrow or Webster have a shot at making the team out of S.T. Most likely Eovaldi, Eveland and NRI for the 5th spot. Losers either headed to bullpen or AAA.
It’s okay, if everything goes right we’ll our rotation will only get a little worse.
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by regfairfield on Dec 3, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
What actually has gotten better in off-season?
82 wins in 2011 (thats with Kershaw/Kemp having career seasons).
What does 2012 have in store?
If Dee Gordon can hit .300 and Loney hits like an actual first baseman and we get lucky we can contend.
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by regfairfield on Dec 3, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Or, it’s probably gonna suck and 2013 is gonna be worse.
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by regfairfield on Dec 3, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
A year of Dee’s offense has to be better than what Furcal put up.
But other than that, i cant see this team getting better at any position.
I still think Sands is gonna be an upgrade in LF
I think people are overestimating how many at bats Rivera is going to get(I’m guessing he starts mostly against lefties with loney on the bench). So we have upgraded at SS and LF. If uribe can be healthy he might be an upgrade at 3rd just by playing good d. 2b might be worse without carrol. Etheir could easily have a better season.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Dodgers got 2.1 WAR out of LF last year.
240/307/353
Dodgers got 3.3 WAR out of SS last year
268/328/330
Dodgers got 2.2 WAR out of 3b last year
245/304/334
if bills gets back to being bills
and lilly goes back to being good lilly, bills replaces kuroda and capuano replaces lilly.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
considering you were “pumped” when the Dodgers signed Pierre, Andruw, and Schmidt, I’m taking this as a good sign.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
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