2012 TBLA Final Prospect Voting Discussion
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 5, 2011 8:20 AM PST
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PrintThe vote for the #14 TBLA prospect was the closest to date, with 6 different players getting a good amount of support, but Scott Van Slyke edged out the competition to capture the crown. Because the competition has become so close, I figure it's time to simply have everyone rank their remaining 6 top prospects to fill out the TBLA list of 20. I will tally up the votes using a standard 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 point system for the each person's 1st - 6th votes. As always, I have created a fanpost for the voting. I'll leave the voting open for at least a few days since this is the final vote, and I want everyone to have a chance to participate.
I've added several names to the list of candidates below, but feel free to vote for anyone who hasn't already been ranked. I think I'm incorporated all possibilities, but if you have a favorite sleeper prospect that I haven't mentioned, now would be the time to vote for them.
Here are the candidates for the Dodgers #15 - 20 Prospects:
Angelo Songco - 1B (23 years old) - Songco had a monster season for the Quakes in 2011, leading the California League in doubles and total bases while hitting .313 with 29 homers and 114 RBI's. He's always had a ton of raw power, and it finally showed this past year. He made the switch from left field to 1st base during the season, but overall doesn't have much defensive value so he's going to have to continue to hit as he moves up through the system.
Alex Santana - 3B (18.25 years old) - The 2011 2nd round pick struggled a bit in his professional debut as he hit just .238 average and struck out in 31.2% of his plate appearances, but he's extremely young and raw so those numbers don't mean a whole lot. Santana has good bloodlines, and at 6'4" he's got a great baseball frame. According to Arizona Dodger manager Jody Reed, he has the potential to be a 5-tool player in the future as he has all the skills, just needs to put it all together.
Ethan Martin - RHP (22.5 years old) - Martin was moved to the bullpen midway through the 2011 season, and showed solid improvement as he had a 4.02 ERA in AA with a 9.6 K/9 through 40.1 innings. The former 1st round pick has electric stuff, including a fastball that can reach 98 mph and a big curveball, but he struggles with control. He's still very young so it's possible that he moves back to the rotation at some point, but for now he is going to try to make it to the show as a hard throwing reliever.
Aaron Miller - LHP (24 years old) - Miller was hampered by injuries throughout 2011 and in essence had a lost season as he threw just 34 innings. Even when he was healthy, the 2009 1st round pick was uncharacteristically wild and had an ERA of almost 4 for the Quakes. That being said, at his best Miller features a sneaky fastball and an above average slider. He also shows potential for a slider and I expect that he'll be fully healthy in 2012.
Alex Castellanos - OF (25.25 years old) - Castellanos made a great impression on Dodger prospect fans after joining the team in the Furcal trade as he posted a 1.009 OPS in his 32 games with the Lookouts, connecting on 4 homers, driving in 23 runs, and walking almost as much as he struck out. There has been talk about converting him to either 2nd base or 1st base since the Dodger have a crowded minor league outfield, so it will be interesting to see where he plays next season. He's listed at 5'11" and despite good home run numbers in 2011, he doesn't necessarily project as a true power threat at the big league level.
Griff Erickson - C (23.5 years old) - The switch hitting catcher had a breakout season in 2011, posting a combined .866 OPS between HiA and AA and smacking 13 homers. He also posted an impressive strikeout to walk ratio, and showed strong defensive skills behind the plate. Erickson is still at least a year away from the big leagues, but he's just 23 years old so he's in a good spot.
Blake Smith - OF (23.75 years old) - A sports hernia injury forced Smith to miss about 6 weeks of the 2011 season, but when healthy Blake was a force to be reckoned with. The 2009 2nd round pick crushed 20 homers in just 313 at bats (including a short rehab), and with the Quakes he had a OPS of almost .900. Smith is a great right fielder with a cannon for an arm, and he recorded 13 outfield assists this past season.
Kyle Russell - OF (25.25 years old) - As we all know by now, Russell is a power hitter that has a knack for striking out. In 2011 Kyle spent most of his season in AA, and with the Lookouts he hit 19 homers while striking out in 32.2% of his plate appearances. The lefty hits right handers very well, so the thought is that at the very least he'll has value at the big leagues as a pinch hitter.
Jake Lemmerman - SS (22.5 years old) - The 2010 MVP of the Pioneer League had a much more average season in 2011, but he did manage to make his way all the way to AA in just his second professional season. Late Night combined for 10 homers and a .785 OPS this past season, and continuing to spend all his time at shortstop. A future move to 2nd or 3rd base might be required thanks to Dee Gordon, but no matter what position he plays he's going to have to continue hitting if he wants to make it to the show.
Brian Cavazos-Galvez - OF/1B (24.5 years old) - BCG continued his rise through the Dodgers minor league system as he spent 2011 in AA, but after two years of eye popping numbers he found the Southern League to be a bit more challenging. Cavazos-Galvez hit .277 with 14 homers and a .781 OPS, but his stolen base numbers came way down and he continued to walk at an extremely low rate. His defensive skills are average at best as he splits his time between 1st base and left field.
Steve Ames -RHP (23.75 years old) - Since getting drafted in 2009, the former 17th round pick has a career ERA of 2.14, a career WHIP of 0.98, and a career K/9 of 13.5 in 109.1 innings. This past season Ames dominated the California League before getting promoted to AA where he continued to have a lot of success. Based on the AFL gameday reports, Ames was throwing in the low 90's with a mid 80's slider
O'Koyea Dickson - 1B (21.75 years old) - The 2011 12th round pick made his professional debut in the Pioneer League, and from an offensive standpoint Dickson was outstanding in every way as he hit 13 HR's in just 189 at bats and had a 1.005 OPS. He'll need to continue to hit as he moves up through the system since he is limited to 1st base.
Leon Landry - OF (22.25 years old) - After an explosive professional debut in 2010, Landry struggled through his sophomore season and was one of the Loon's most disappointing players. Even though he ended the year by hitting .321 in August and led the league in triples, his overall season stats were below average as he posted a .309 OB% and a .667 OPS. He is a solid outfield defender and can easily handle center field even though his arm strength is average at best.
Ralston Cash - RHP (20.25 years old) - The 2010 2nd round pick missed the entire 2011 season due to a hip injury, but has gone through rehab and should be ready by the start of spring training. When healthy, the young right-hander throws a fastball from 88-92 mph with good sink, and he has touched 94 mph. Some scouts describe his secondary stuff as fringy, while others believe his changeup and slider can one day become plus pitches.
Juan Rodriguez - RHP (23 years old) - Juan Rodriguez joined the organization as part of the Trayvon Robinson trade, and he showed very good stuff in his 17 innings with the Loons. He still needs to improve his control, but he makes for a very intriguing prospect and posted a 1.59 ERA with a 10.6 K/9 and a 0.94 WHIP after the trade. He's raw, but throws very hard and at 6'5" he has a big physical frame.
Scott Schebler - OF (21 years old) - Schebler quietly had a very good season for Ogden, tying for the team lead with 13 homers while posting a .853 OPS. He was outstanding with runners on base, and ended the season on a hot streak. The one surprise about his season was the fact that he only stole one base, especially because Baseball America described him as having plus speed in their pre-draft report.
Cole St. Clair - LHP (25.25 years old) - The 25 year old lefty reliever was outstanding for the Lookouts in 2011 through July, and even with a rough final month of the season he finished the year with a 3.04 ERA, a 1.11 WHIP, and a 2.58 FIP. Cole has never been known as a hard thrower (he was throwing in the mid 80's in the AFL with a high of 88 mph), but he hits his spots and walked just 13 batters in 50.1 innings.
Josh Wall - RHP (24.75 years old) - As I've mentioned many times before, Wall has found new life in the bullpen and can again be considered a legitimate Dodger prospect. He led the Lookouts with 68.2 inning in relief and posted a 3.93 ERA, which wasn't all that impressive but was the best of his career since 2005. He's currently throwing very well in the AFL and rumor has it that he's hit 100 mph.
Austin Gallagher - 1B (23 years old) - Austin Gallagher was the main 1st baseman for the Quakes in 2011 and finally broke out with his best season as a professional. His stats still weren't all that great for a big man playing a power position, but he did smack 13 homers to go along with his .292 average and showed great plate disciple as he walked almost as much as he struck out.
Again, please use this post as the discussion thread, and cast your actual vote in this Fanpost.
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Congratulations to Ron Santo, if he has a Widow or Son they should tell the HOF to go fuck themselves.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can’t use MLC at work for some reason (IE is blocking the Search links) what is league average for High A?
was just trying to sort leaderboards by High-A, could select “all high-A” but then everything grayed out including the button to run the query
Yeah, search in IE is broken, what can I help you with?
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Median age for anyone with 200+ PA is 23.75.
What this doesn’t tell you is the average age when you take out all the filler.
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Correct. However he is old when you look at guys who are actual prospects.
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I blame an entire region of the country for subjecting us to field goal missing fest the sequel.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh.
So it’s my fault?
Or am I just getting subjected to it because I’m the only guy you have contact with from said region?
Mostly just that you’re the only guy I know who roots for an SEC team.
This is my nightmare. I would be generally happy to never see the SEC in a championship game (though LSU earned the shit out of it with their performance and ballsy non-SEC like schedule.) But two teams from the SEC? In a repeat of a terrible game?
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
the Coaches poll is obligated to give the winner the crystal trophy, but I imagine the AP poll might still go with LSU if Alabama wins
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
I would be stunned if that happened. But it is a possibility, especially if the game is decided by a field goal or less.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
y’know, it’s the computer’s fault too. Why isn’t anyone angry at computers?
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Josie Phact? The computers ranked OK St 2, Alabama 3
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Hey now, PH replacing the F is registered by Phil
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think you owe the computer an apology
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m sorry computers. You are awesome and I hope someday a laser shoots me so I can see you from the inside
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
And meet Olivia Wilde
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 11:05 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Heres some fun facts about the Harris Poll voters
One is a former SEC commsioner who voted five SEC teams in his top 11.
Thirteen Harris Poll voters had Oklahoma State ranked number 4 or lower.
One voter even had Houston at 5 (who just got rocked by Souther Miss) and Oklahoma State 6.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Not a Josie Phact
Nick Saban voted OKSt. 4th behind Stanford
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Bullshit. I mean, its’ possible that’s true (I don’t believe it), but you know damn well why he voted that way.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I would rather see Stanford or Okie state
I don’t think Alabama really earned it other then beating Arkansas but whatevs
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I don’t disagree anymore. I’m with it. But the 107th ranked defense in the Natty Champ game is a joke too. I personally think it should be Stanford or Bama.
You trumpeting an average Stanford team makes sense too since (as Alabama would argue) it only matters who teams lost to, not who they beat. Their only win of consequence was an overtime victory at USC which could have gone either way. They got demolished at home to an Oregon team that isn’t as good as it’s been the past few years.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
better Oregon was in the BCS Championship last year. This isn’t that Oregon.
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
That’s really the beauty of the SEC. Wins against the SEC are huge and losses in conference are no big deal. Oklahoma State’s only loss was in double OT
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I'm into older women :P
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by Ivdown on Dec 5, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Lock up your grandmas.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
1. Aaron Miller
2. Blake Smith
3. Ralton Cash
4. Angelo Songco
5. Griff Erickson
Really, Phil?
putting songco below a guy who didn’t even play lt year was a bit surprising to see.
I was always on the Aaron Miller train so I’m not getting off because of groin injuries. Cash is simply based on scouting reports compared to Songco. We all have our favorites, yours is Songco mine is Sands.
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Cash has scouting reports and age on his side. I was willing to throw him a vote for that reason too.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
Mike did you one better and voted no Songco at all in the top 20. The guy that led our minor league system in almost every offensive category not in te top 20.
Not voting Songo is my rebellion against all you who shit on Kyle Russell back when he was dominating as an old guy for his level in A ball.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
Today at 2 pm our time
is the deadline for teams to outright a player off their 40 man roster to make room for a pick in the Rule 5 draft. Since we are full with 40 players on our 40 man, what does everyone think:? will we outright anyone to make room?
Troncoso
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
If Kuo is going to get non-tendered, they might as well drop him now.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t see the rush though. Tron has no future at all with the Dodgers. OTOH, I could see the Dodgers continuing to negotiate with Kuo in the hopes of working out a deal they like.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
he stopped fighting for the users, but I think he’s redeemed at the end
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ha, Tron Legacy was as disappointing to me as Aliens 3 when they killed the hero’s of Alien 2 before the movie even started.
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Disney: “Hey remember at the end of Tron when Flynn went back into the system after having a son?”
Everyone: “No”
Disney: “Look, Olivia Wilde!”
Was Olivia Wilde the girl in tron? I was wondering who she was….major hottie
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
same thing happened in the Wall Street sequel
“Hey remember how in the original, Michael Douglas had a touching relationship with his daughter?”
“no”
“Carey Mulligan!”
His command is shot.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He had one good fluky year
And was never that good to begin with
by SeanMillerSavior on Dec 5, 2011 9:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
A fair take
If memory serves, he well outperformed his peripherals his one really good year
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
I gotta think Oeltjen is the most expendable
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
Because he’s better than the other options for a bench guy.
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If I’m building the bench: TGJ, TO, Kennedy, Sellers or some other useless utility guy, Treanor
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It took me a second to realize who this Kennedy guy was you were referring to.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
TO certainly isn’t great but he can play all three outfield positions, take a walk and has some pop. That’s got value.
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Rivera or Sands
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Rivera, Sands gets called up if any corner guy goes down.
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Makes sense. If Sands doesn’t earn the job, you want him playing. I think he earns the job though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Especially since he'll just hang around and sign as an NRI in February anyway
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
For primarily arbitrary reasons, I think he’d take an NRI with Minnesota.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’ve got to imagine he’s a fan of the Dodgers organization. The last two years he’s seen playing time at the major league level after an NRI.
But ya, there might be a club which has more of a need for him. Oh well, he had a good run.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
As a fringy guy, he’ll sign with anyone that’ll give him a shot. I was thinking Twins because they gave him his first shot, they’re terrible enough that he might actually earn a spot and there are a couple of other Aussies there. But he could end up anywhere.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Anyone Rule 5 available that Dodgers should or might be interested in?
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From what I’ve seen not really. Best players out there are relievers and people are considering Kyle Russell one of the better hitters which says something about the pool of players.
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Cool. So they're better off making cuts to roster to make space for someone actually useful
say, acquired in trade, or whatever…
Since someone has to stick on ML roster all season anyway.
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FTR:
Baseball HQ top 15:
Zach Lee
Webster
Eovaldi
Withrow
Pederson
Tolleson :)
Aaron Miller
Angel Sanchez
Garrett Gould
Silverio
Martin
Reed
Cash
Fedex
Van Slyke
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Cash Comments:
Strengths: Sinker; control; projectability
Weaknesses: Questions about health; inconsistent change-up
Comments: Short and athletic, Cash missed all of ’11 with a hip injury, but should be healthy and ready to go in ’12. Prior to the injury showed a nice 88-93 mph fastball, a slow curve, and a decent change-up. Gets downward sink on fastball and lots of groundball outs. Has good feel and command of all three offerings. Off-speed stuff just needs to be a bit sharper. Look for a breakout in ’12.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Angel Sanchez
Strengths: Plus change-up; good fastball; projectability
Weaknesses: Durability and ability to go deep into games; control and consistency
Comments: Tall, slender, athletic hurler from the D.R. had an impressive showing in the MWL. Fastball sits in the 90-94 mph range and tops out at 95. Compliments the fastball with a plus change-up and a decent curveball. At 6’3", 175# he has room for growth and additional velocity. Still some work to do, but this was a very impressive debut.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Tolleson:
Strengths: Aggressiveness; pounds the strike zone; fastball; plus cut fastball; good deception
Weaknesses: Slider
Comments: 30th round pick in ’10 looks like a steal. Attacks hitters with a 90-93 mph fastball that tops out at 96 mph, a cutter, and slider. Dodgers converted him to relief and he was fantastic in full-season debut, going 7-2 with a miniscule 1.17 ERA. Tolleson locates all three offerings well and simply over-matched hitters – 18 BB/105 K in 69 IP. Could reach the majors as soon as 2012.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
There were actually several names I liked in this last vote that I had to leave off. Josh Wall could end up being an impact arm — I’m thinking sort of like a Joel Hanrahan. Thanks for leading this, Brandon!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I know there is enough blame to go around
but Kuroda on the Dbacks (if it gets done) is gonna leave me slightly miffed.
Because it’s reported he wants a 1 year with a player option. If you only want a 1 year deal with us because you might go back to japan, why now are you wanting a player option? Maybe just tired of free agency I guess.
The player option gives him control next year. If he could have had an option last year, I think he’d be happy to stay with the Dodgers this year. Also, we wouldn’t have Capuano and Rivera or MEllis, so it would have been a win-win.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Federowicz, Fife and Rodriguez.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Kennedy
Hudson
Kuroda
Collmenter
with Bauer, Parker, Skaggs waiting in the wings could be formidable now and in the future.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’d like for him to sign with the Angels. Anyone else in the NL West is a double dagger to us, we lose him and someone who needs him gets him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oddly, @CBS_JonHeyman was taken?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
So was @InBoras’sPocket_JonHeyman
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hurt
I played in a softball tournament this weekend, and now my body hates me.
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 5, 2011 9:09 AM PST reply actions
I took Spartan Training Camp at Mdeleine’s gym on Saturday morning and today I feel like I could bench press a truck
The second independent clause was not what I was expecting
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Gillick, yo
BillShaikin
Pat Gillick would consider joining #Dodgers as pres of BB ops. He’s been approached by bidders, won’t align with any: lat.ms/s2clHT
They better hurry up and do this then!
PS: He’s actually “only” 74, which is only a year older than my dad, so I say he can still do it.
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so he can come in for a few years
staff us with talented people, and then retire.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Sounds good
Or he can be like future co-owner Larry King, come in, fix the franchise, and then croak.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
he made the Phillies elite
think about that for a second
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Clarification on the "third rounder for Reyes" kerfuffle
from Adam Rubin:
Since this offseason still has the old rules with some changes…
Heath Bell was in fact one of the dudes who were downgraded so that the signing team didn’t lose a pick. However, the Padres still get (in addition to a supplemental pic between first and second rounds) a pick (new, created out of thin air) right before the Marlins’ second rounder.
But from the Marlins’ perspective, all the Type A’s they sign are still ranked like the old system (Bell is ahead of Reyes) so it is treated as though Bell cost them their second rounder and Reyes would cost the Marlins their third rounder.
The kicker is that if the Marlins sign somebody else at the top of the Type A food chain, like Pujols or Fielder, Reyes would move down a peg even further and they Mets would get a fourth round pick for Reyes (plus the supplemental between the first and second, still)
I worked overtime both days this weekend in Thousand Oaks at a Verizon event
and today my entire face is red, including my lips, save for the sunglasses marks over my eyes.
16+ hours baking in the sun: not too much fun.
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Sadly that wasn't the event I got to go to :(
I was at a shuttle station for people going on house tours. I guess it would be different if I was well off, but those rich people really really enjoyed going on tours of nice houses, lol.
A guy I worked with on Saturday got to go to the golf event on Sunday though, must have been pretty nice.
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mlbtraderumors
Teams are looking at Edgar Renteria as a multi-position utility guy, including third base, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Renteria wants to play for a contender.
Could there be a Neddier guy out there?
Guy really far past his prime?
Check.
Former Giant?
Check.
Bad defense?
Check.
Can play multiple infield positions not well?
Check.
Let’s get em!
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I'm suddenly MUCH happier the Dodgers signed Ellis and Kennedy both
makes it much less likely they sign Renteria.
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Former Cubbie great
never was on a playoff team (Cubs entire career I believe) if I’m thinking of the right Cub.
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Barely any Cubs were on a playoff team.
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Cub Announcer who lost one limb at a time until his named was changed from Ron to Bob after they threw him in Lake Michigan.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 5, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He did
some nice spirals even (!), as well as a few totally ugly looking passes but even those were on the money. One that looked like a retarded duck but was actually perfectly placed right on finger tips of D Thomas in end zone that he couldn’t quite pull down. Hey, if he’s on target I’ll take it even if not winning style portion of judging show. ;)
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The D Thomas one was at the end?
It was thereish but not an easy catch and I think he got jostled by the defender iirc
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
yeah i think that was the one, no def not an easy catch at all. but seemed well placed to me.
also had one perfect throw to DT again (I think) on sidelines that he couldn’t get both feet down on. definitely an improved day at least, let’s say.
looks like TJ did pretty well, too, eh?
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Seems like he got rattled in the 2nd
but he showed me some great stuff in the 1st. He has a strong arm and can locate it down the field. Once AJ went down though he didn’t do a whole lot, we got our 2nd td mostly by running it down their throats. I feel good about him overall.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Virgin Diaries
Did anyone watch this on TLC last night? The commercial pimping the show is pretty damn hilarious.
I used to think I watched a lot of TV, but it’s nothing compared to some of you guys
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Something you ate?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Darren Rovell says the lowest average ticket price of all the bowl games is the New Mexico Bowl (had a Pac-12 tie-in but with USC ineligible the conference ran out of eligible teams, so they had to take an at-large team instead), at $67.01.
First thought: who would pay $67 to see the New Mexico Bowl?
I went to the Holiday Bowl a few times in San Diego, but only because I knew a guy on the bowl committee and could get free tickets.
I may go this year. As, and I’m sure you will support me on this, FUCK YOU MACK BROWN.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
for those lower tier bowls though, non sellouts are common and schools usually end up eating tickets
As Phil asked the other day
So, why do the schools take the invites?
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
specifically with the Pac 12 all the revenue is split, so UCLA can take a loss on the San Francisco Bowl, but it contributes to the overall pile. It’s also another game, and games means practices and opportunities to sell merchandise. Also, it’s a guaranteed game on national TV, which schools like Wyoming don’t get every day.
Each team in the Pac is given a million+ dollars to cover expenses, plus the cost of chartering a plane.
Lemme put it this way, there are families in LA with ten year olds who drive to San Juan Capistrano twice a week for club soccer practice. Same principle
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I actually get it for a team like Wyoming for the reasons you said and because it’s a regional bowl game, they don’t got a lot of them, so they might actually travel well (I’d probably go if I was an alumni of that school.) But Temple makes no sense.
In light of what you suggest (splitting the pie, merchandisng, stuff like that) is stating that schools have to eat tickets misleading. Do they make it up in other ways? Long story, short, do they make money or lose money (in total) on bowl games?
by Michael White on Dec 5, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
In conferences where money is not split evenly, you can take a loss. In the BCS conferences where all the money is pooled, you end up making $2mill
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
the only instance I’ve read where the money isn’t split evenly is with the non-AQ schools making a BCS bowl. Otherwise it’s all what’s best for the conference.
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
What about Mike Stanton and Hanley Ramirez for Mark Reynolds and Brian Roberts?
In this case Stanton fills the Alomar role as the best player over the next decade.
what teams were doing the echanging?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
He was my favorite player at that time. I was in 4th grade and got a picture taken with him in the Locker room. He may have been the tallest person I ever met in my life up to that point.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Sickels List Is Up
Likes Erickson, dislikes Fed, has multiple 25 year old outfielders in his rankings.
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people are always both more optimistic and pessimisitic with players they know or have a vested interest in. In reality, we’re a bell curve just like any other system.
I keep thinking that guy's an Italian film director.
(Man, if we get some use out of a guy traded for Hu, that is a nice win.)
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Dodgers are “closing in” on a minor league deal with reliever Alberto Castillo, per Jesse Sanchez of MLB.com
Hmm
Is that Eo above?
An inverted “H”? ;)
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more looking at the very hard leg landing. you’re supposed to get to a hard front leg by transitioning your weight after release. if you land hard, you’re slamming the breaks on the bus and the kids are flying out of their seats.
Haha, nice. Someone should work with him on that before we have the Sweet Hereafter on our hands.
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joe_block: Good luck to all the aspiring #MLB broadcasters in Dallas. That was me 12 years ago. Best career move I ever made
Do they have like open tryouts?
It’s more like the largest job fair in the industry.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
Imagine a room (Hotel lobby) where you will see baseball writers, baseball ops people and baseball celebs (see Uncle Tommy, Eric Davis and Joe Morgan) just hanging out.
If I was serious about a career in baseball, I would be there with résumés on hand and a willingness to take any job anywhere.
they’re open to the public? There must be an entry fee large enough to make it expense account only, otherwise it’d turn into fanfest, wouldn’t it?
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
There are no activities for fans. I assume a few autograph-seekers mill around hotel lobbies hoping to get their Kenny Williams 89 Topps signed, but I don’t think there’d be any reason for a fan to be there.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
But I agree
I wouldn’t go to Dallas if I didn’t have nothing else to do aside from standing in a lobby.
The lobby
Of the hotel is open to anyone, the nearby bars and restaurants are open to anyone. There are areas that are restricted and each club usually meets with their local baseball writers up in their suites.
It's fun
To hangout with the writers, got to meet and share some drinks with Kevin Goldstein when I went. Also saw Josh Rawitch back then and also met Tim Kurjikan, who was pretty cool.
Lots of people with resumes unironically listing fantasy baseball championships.
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Alberto Castillo looks interesting to me
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castial02.shtml
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As a human interest story from Cuba?
He’ll turn 37 in July and in his last three seasons in the majors, he’s thrown a total of 34 1/3 innings, given up 38 hits, walked 17, and struck out 25.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 5, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
as just an NRI guy worth a flyer, and yeah, the Cuban story ;)
I hadn’t noticed his age though, so probably ultimately not that interesting.
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phillies
Are shopping Polanco
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 10:19 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
if they sign Aramis
they have more money than I thought they have
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
They’re going after him
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 10:36 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
As in Homeland explodes? or as in Jose Bautista?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Denver is lovely this time of year.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Surrounded by acres of clams.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 5, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Ron Santo
Should have been inducted back wen he could ave enjoyed it. I still think it will be a huge crowd of Cubbie fans at Cooperstown next summer.
August 24-26, 2012
Marlins @ Dodgers for a weekend series.
This is turning into a must buy, amirite?
Is that the All Star Game?
or do you really think they’re getting Pujols?
by eitherethier on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Encouraging Jeff Loria is a terrible thing. Hopefully no one shows up to Marlins games.
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I mean I get where you are coming from
but it seems like a bad precedent to watch him actually spend money on good players, and then say no f you I won’t show up.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
What’s he gonna do, steal more money from the city?
Actually that’s exactly what he’ll do.
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
In a perfect world
As Marlins Stadium is consumed by flames just one lasting image can be seen through the inferno
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
I imagine it with this song. (Don’t click if you can’t play music right now, obv.)
by Josie Becker on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I’d say perfect for a TBLA night, but you wouldn’t show
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
But I might
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 10:44 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
no
Celebrating my brothers birthday.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 10:47 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Very likely story
I’m not sure Tommy Blackjack even exists and as a solid entity.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
I like to think I exist in the hearts and minds of every member of TBLA
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
No he will come
He will carpool with Tommy Blackjack and iiidown.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
If its not in north hollywood I might actually show up!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Let me play the world's smallest violin for you
I make the drive from Ventura County (further than Hollywood by 25-30 miles!) to Anaheim and back weekly! Just do it one night ;)
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no big deal. just your usual beatdown. would be cool if you see the crowd melt down when riquelme came in around 60 minutes.
I’m usually not one to propose impossible trade ideas but I think Hanley will rebound from his recent funk. Is there anyone else left that’s still high on him and what would need to be offered?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Doesn’t sound to me like they are in rebuild mode. They would probably want major league 3rd baseman, Starting Pitching.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
More than you’d be willing to give up.
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I figured as much but thought that he’s worn out his welcome a little bit and they might be willing to move him to get younger cheaper pieces and free up more cash for these major FA purchases they are making.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
The only young cheap piece we have that can immediately help the Marlins is Dee Gordon, and he has the same problem Hanley does.
You don’t sign Reyes and maybe Pujols to get prospects.
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by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
They will win a world series within 2 years
then blow it all up again. Wait 6 – 8 years, rinse, repeat.
Congratulation to Pure Azure for winning the Survival Pool
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I am not. It can’t be explained away. Call timeout with 20 seconds left and make a decision. Doesn’t seem that hard.
yes
oh what could’ve been…they were just rounding into shape. Cutler was playing the best I’d seen him and things were coming together, then this crap. I also hear Martz is on his way out. Why bring him in for 2 years and cut him loose now? Ownership is cheap and they make strange decisions…
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Not sure why they’d get rid of Martz. Unless they believe he’s killed Forte. Are you guys gonna ride the Caleb Hanne train til the fuckin wheels fall off?
Go get Favre!
No one can stand Martz for more then a couple years
I’m guessing he is a pain to work with.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
thanks yo
It was a minefield of guessery and strategicness. I was planning on going the distance.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
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