Aaron Harang, Jerry Hairston Hop On The Dodgers' Two-Year Train
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2011 3:35 PM PST
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On the first day of the winter meetings, the Dodgers have been very active. They are reportedly close to two-year deals with both utility man Jerry Hairston Jr. and starting pitcher Aaron Harang, both presumably backloaded to shoehorn them into the tight 2012 budget.
The 2013 team is beginning to look a lot like the 2012 team.
Harang, who turns 34 in March, is "very close" to a done deal, per Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports reports the deal in the $12 million range (first thought: wow). He was 14-7 with a 3.64 ERA last season with the San Diego Padres, but after factoring in the pitcher-friendly Petco Park as his home he ever so slightly below average last year. His last two years have seen a sharp decline in his strikeout rate (7.7 per nine innings from 2008-2009 to 6.6 in 2010-2011) and an increase in walks (2.4 per nine to 3.1 over the same two-year periods).
Harang's last three years have also been injury-prone, as he has missed time for an appendectomy and injuries to his back, right ankle, foot, and right wrist all since 2009. From 2009-2011 Harang averaged 25 starts and 148 innings per season. The Padres declined their half of Harang's $5 million mutual option for 2012.
Hairston's deal, now done, is worth $6 million. He will get $2.25 million in 2012 and $3.75 million in 2013, per Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times. The 35-year old hit .270/.344/.383 with the Washington Nationals and Milwaukee Brewers in 2011, and has played pretty much everywhere in the last few years. Since 2009, Hairston has started 86 games at third base, 81 games at shortstop, 72 games at second base, 32 starts in left field, 14 starts in center field, and five games in right field.
In other news, the Dodgers placed outfielder Jamie Hoffmann on outright waivers, removing him from the 40-man roster, and he was claimed by the Colorado Rockies. The Dodgers had a full 40-man roster coming into Monday, so they will need to make another roster move to make room for both Harang and Hairston.
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You guys remember that fanpost where someone said, "Stop calling Ned a moron. He’s not a moron!" ?
Ned: "Your move."
by truemontenegro on Dec 5, 2011 3:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ned has sealed his "Worst GM in baseball" trophy
So at least he’ll get some hardware before he leaves.
by BFDC on Dec 5, 2011 3:39 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
This reminds me of when I was growing up, all the other kids would be playing with their new Fielders and Pujolses under the tree, while I’d be lighting my menorah and opening up Hairstons and Harangs.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 5, 2011 3:41 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
Hairston is a solid move
If you didn’t sign fucking Mark Ellis.
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
by Alex41592 on Dec 5, 2011 3:42 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Maybe Colletti is banking on all of these shitty infielders combining like Power Rangers into one awesome infielder.
by court168627 on Dec 5, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Have the Dodgers become the oldest team in baseball?
Matt Treanor – turns 36 in March
Adam Kennedy turns 36 in January turns 36 in May
Juan Rivera – turns 34 in July
Chris Capuano – he’s 33.
Aaron Harang – turns 34 in March
Jerry Hairston
Mark Ellis – turns 35 in June
All these guys combined could have bought someone good and in their primes.
what is this
22 million? And then cut loney and thats another 6 to put elswhere. Yeesh.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
wow so how much money is that on Average replacement players just for this upcoming year
$ given to ellis, harang, capuano, hairston, treanor, and kennedy= Fielder $
Ignoring Kennedy/Treanor since they are marginally more expensive than a rookie, Dodgers will pay Ellis, Rivera, and Capuano $9.5 million in 2012. Add in Harang and Hairston and it’s probably $16m or so.
ann 2013, Elis, Rivera (assuming his option is picked up), Capuano, Harang and Hairston will make around $30mil
Me too.
It’s a no-brainer.
It probably actually slightly reduces the team’s chances in 2012, but Fielder would be on the team for a long time. That is a great piece to build around. And if any of the rookie spare parts stick, you are like a pig in shit.
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I spitballed Hairston/Harang together as $6.5 million in 2012 and $11.5 million in 2013, so if that is true and Rivera’s option gets picked up we are looking at:
$16 million in 2012
$26.75 million in 2013
for those 5 players
With some backloading
we could have had Pujols AND Rivera!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Depending on backloading we’re up somewhere from 110-115
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
we have the most utility players in baseball history
uribe, ellis, kennedy, sellers, wow
Its going to really bum people out
when Sands and Gordon put up 3 war each and lead us to the playoffs with Kemp
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
i’m not sure how that works with him being all DL’d and such. doe he go back on the MLB DL and get service time?
If I'm correct
He’s still on the MLB DL so he’s still on the service time clock. Once he goes for a rehab assignment, the team can decide to option him at the end of that assignment. Since he was called up in May 2011, he’s certain to be a super2 if he doesn’t get optioned down.
Of course, this would be a super2 going into 2014.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 5, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
If Rubby gets two full years of service time in 2012-2013 he’ll be at 2 years, 128 days. That would probably be Super Two, but not comfortable calling it a lock even with the threshold increasing from top 17% to top 22%. He would likely be a Super Two after 2013 in that case, but there is a chance he wouldn’t be, even without getting optioned.
So yeah, back to your point, it seems likely Rubby will not be a Super Two after 2013.
So
MEllis gets 2/8.75
Rivera 1/4.5
Kennedy 1/800k
Treanor 1/1m
Capuano 2/10
Harang 2/12
Hairston 2/6
Guerrier goes from 1.5m to 4.75/4.75 [!!]
Uribe from 5m to 8/7/+1
by kinbote on Dec 5, 2011 3:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
And Lilly from 7.5m to 12/13.5
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/30/1840626/dodgers-payroll-worksheet
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/2013-mlb-free-agents.html
check out anyone that says “club option” next to their name. Some will get extended (Cano for one, won’t see free agency until he’s 50), but the might be some exciting guys there. I’m looking at you, Brian McCann (won’t happen)
Ned Colletti
Spending money he doesn’t have on parts he doesn’t need.
by truemontenegro on Dec 5, 2011 3:48 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
His obsession with depth of marginal players is amazing.
by Joey Joe on Dec 5, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
theres a few wins in all this
At least he didnt sign them for 3 years
the plan
in all honesty and seriousness, what the fuck is it?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 5, 2011 3:50 PM PST reply actions
If you’re punting, why spend any money at all?
Aaron Harang isnt going to put butts in the seats.
Neither will Cap, Ellis, Rivera, Treanor, Hairston
That is a great question.
This is exactly the kind of team I hate: not good enough to compete, not bad enough to get a good pick.
The Dodgers are following the Houston Astros model. The farm system will continue to suffer. In 2014, Kershaw will get traded for a Happ type. In 2015, Kemp will get traded for useful prospects that are a long way off. The team will lose 120 games and rebuild from there.
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James Loney hits 30 home runs
Kemp has the best two year non Barry stretch of the last 50 years
Gordon hits .300
Ethier bounces back completely
No one gets hurt at all.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
you mean no non-infielders get hurt
as we now have 239820982348029382 of them
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 5, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
a successful season might require several infielders getting injured
Honestly if Ethier goes back to normal
Loney hits an .850 OPS, and Uribe contributes at all this offense won’t be a joke. That’s assuming Kemp can still OPS .875 or more as well.
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
agreed.
my prediction is that any dip in kemp’s numbers will be more than compensated by ethier
get Pat Gillick to shed bad contracts and reinforce his HoF status
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
dumbpants
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
BillShaikin
Source: #Dodgers not getting calls on Andre Ethier, not interested in trading him anyway.
Ned must spend $12 for $10 gift cards
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Dec 5, 2011 3:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hey, if there is a 33 year and older league for 5th starters and utility players, we’ll surely be #1.
Holy fuck Ned, you’re outdoing yourself here.
ok then
So at 2:01 PDT on 7/31, you’ll know whether or not to go buy some diapers.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 5, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Depends on how he does this year. New compensation rules say we have to offer him something like 1/16 if we want a comp pick.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
The second digit might be written like a 2, but Ned reads it as a 6.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 5, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Knew it was the average of the top 125 contracts and estimated. 12.4 this year, probably something like 13 next year. So unless Ethier repeats 2011 we should get a comp pick.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
Ethier could break both his middle fingers after getting elected to the All-Star Game.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 5, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We should've known
If Alex Tamin had been working for the Yankees in the 60s, he have traded Mickey — Alex Tamin anagrams to I Ax Mantle.
Clearly, he has no idea what he’s doing.
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You know, I’d be perfectly okay with all of these moves if I could bang Domestico just once.
by silverwidow on Dec 5, 2011 4:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
So why did Ned really not want Kuroda back?
Do you think he burnt some bridges when he refused the trade?
Tim Brown
Dodgers still have a ways to go to seal Harang. Being aggressive with very little payroll to work with.
There is hope! It could fall through (not likely)
“All right, Aaron. If you’re traded, your option year vests. Also, if you receive even as much as one 10th place vote in the Cy Young voting, you receive $22,000,000.”
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Since CY only goes to five, it’s brilliant!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
like trying to persistently get Rosie O'Donnell's phone number
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Hoffmann
I bet he’ll get more of a shot with the Rockies than the Dodgers ever gave him. His speed and defense will be an advantage in the outfield at Coors.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Hoffman also got a shot with the Yankees
and they gave him back
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Yep. Especially since Spilborghs is likely to be non-tendered
He’s decent RH OF depth
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He can probably fill the Spilborghs role for a min salary.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
using a less-experienced, less-expensive player over a more-experienced, more-expensive player with about the same upside?
mind blown.
by truemontenegro on Dec 5, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There’s a reason we’ve never won a division title…
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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/slinks back to Purple Row
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I'm actualy more worried about the Texans losing their punter
then I am about AJ.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
AJ will be fine
Punter is out for the year. Our punting problems where actually a huge issue last year. Expect our D to start giving up more points. Sorry silverwidow
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Good thing I found some chump to buy half my ticket package. This team is not as fun to watch as it was potentially going to be 2 days ago.
Is there any Argentine player, who, signing with the Galaxy, would get you interested in going to some games?
no.
i dont really like Argentine players, just be default i know who most of them are now. I like Boca.
I think this might be the first thing you and I have ever agreed upon here.
On Friday, I was thinking, “Wow, these prices are OK, and the team will be entertaining — sure, I’ll sign up.”
Now, I’m like, “F that.”
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phew
glad you guys could disagree on something
yeah im not completely in the fuck it stage either…. I mean, its a great place to get fucked up at, they got dodger dogs, garlic fries, and wall to wall hot latina chicks everywhere… yeah, for those reasons, ill still go!
You guys notice that Laynce Nix got 2 yrs 2.5 million and he’s basically the same thing as Rivera – only real skill is hitting LHP
So I guess Hairston goes into Hoffmann’s roster spot and we’ll need to clear another when Harang is official.
Colletti's gonna Colletti
This off-season is no surprise. The fact that the team did so much better in 2011 after the kids were promoted (or re-promoted) didn’t influence him at all. He went out and signed some more useless crap instead of re-signing Kuroda or making a play for Reyes or Fielder (we could have moved Dee to 2B for a couple years until Reyes’ hamstrings told him it was time to switch positions).
by The Dude Abides on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I can’t give a definition to ‘Ned Guy’ that well, but I know Aaron Harang is one.
Also, the 2012 team is going to be unshockingly cromulent.
These signings do not embiggen the team.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Dec 5, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Your 2012 Dodgers
C
A. Ellis, Treanor
INF
Loney (3), M. Ellis (4), Gordon (6), Hairston (5), Uribe (4,5,6), Kennedy (4,5), Sands (3,7,9)
OF
Rivera (7), Kemp (8), Ethier (9), Gwynn (8,9)
SP
Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Capuano, Harang
RP
Guerrier, Jansen, Guerra, Hawksworth, Elbert, Lindblom, Troncoso
Batting lineup
Gordon, M. Ellis, Ethier, Kemp, Loney, Rivera, Hairston, A. Ellis
Still time to give Varitek two years to start at catcher.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
Looks like a solid team. I think Uribe will start at 3B and I think Sands will beat out Rivera in ST and start in LF. I think that this team will win 85-88 games as constructed with the chance to reach 90 if we can make a splash this summer at the trade deadline. I think we could be a wildcard team this year which isn’t bad considering the ownership change.
If
Loney plays like Jim instead of James
Mark Ellis has his best year ever
Gordon bats over .300
Juan Uribe plays like it’s 2010
Kemp and Kershaw play like it’s 2011
Ethier comes back strong
Billingsley rebounds to 2008 levels
Harang can keep the ball in the park
That’s a decent chance at winning 90 games
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 5, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ned got a winner in Carroll
and went to the well 586 times too often
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Dec 5, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Which only puts into perspective how awful the offseason has been.
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Oh, FUCK this
Jon_Heyman
#dodgers offering harang a 2-year deal. He seems to be asking for 3. but still talking.
by silverwidow on Dec 5, 2011 4:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yesssss screw this up Harang.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, I hope he Jody Reeds himself.
On the other hand, last time the Dodgers got the team end of the Jody Reed deal, it didn’t work out so good.
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So there’s still a chance the Dodgers might just go with Kuroda instead?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 5, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Kuroda looked at the talent Ned Colletti signed to date, and decided that playing for the team that tried to kill him was a better bet to win a championship.
by Tripon on Dec 5, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember that episode of Sesame Street where Mr. Hooper died and Big Bird was totally distraught and couldn’t understand why people had to die and then Gordon finally told him “just because?”
This is like that. Why can’t we have Kuroda? Just because.
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Poor Matt Kemp
I feel bad he took less money in year 1 for this bullshit… Guess he learned his lesson, never do a team a favor, get yours!
Friedman staying in Tampa Bay
not going to Houston, per MLBN. Good, we’re gonna need him to untangle this PVL clusterfuck.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Dec 5, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Friedman/Maddon package deal would be excellent.
by silverwidow on Dec 5, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
my second job's office
is right next to barry’s boot camp and holy shit i want to kill this guy
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
A bag of them
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
Burn
You just put Scott Miller on par with Bill Plaschke.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 5, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I always used to link to this video
on the old MOKM site whenever the tool barfed up an especially egregious column.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 5, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Unless that’s your thing, in which case, cool, and go eat something that you don’t like to eat instead.
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I know that. You think I could knock up Bride twice on my own?
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Spawn born 11/16/2007
Folly born 8/24/2010
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Caught it by its toe.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 5, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think the GM
is obviously under some constraint(s) from his owner this season. From deduction they appear to be…
1. No contracts gauranteed to be longer than two years to any new players.
2. (and this one may be partly a Ned-ism) Nobody on the 25 man roster who hasn’t proven to be a major leaguer for a year or more. Only one that kind of escapes through that crack might be A.J. Ellis
It would be nice to have signed Jose Reyes, Prince Fielder, Albert Pujols or C.J. WIlson or traded for Joey Votto or Dwight Howard but the reality of the situation (bankruptcy, team for sale) is that that is a pipe dream. Nothing has been done this off-season to ruin the team. We are likely a high 70s win team this year with a chance for a slight improvement next year if the purse strings are opened up next year. The Dodgers will be ok.
That is all conjecture. You have no way of knowing if any of it is true. And, in fact, wasn’t there a quote that specifically said that the Dodgers were NOT barred from going after Fielder?
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Just because they weren’t barred by MLB/bankruptcy court from handing out a big contract doesn’t mean that they were really targeting Kemp.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
what if that was the choice
Kemp or Fielder? What do you do?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
not sign 22 million dollars worth of meh
and give it to fielder instead
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Serious question: what’s to say they haven’t talked to Fielder? And what happens if he told them to fuck off?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
that would be rude
and might get you killed in some countries
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Ned told (me/us) he likes young players to prove themselves (dominate at every level) before handing them a MLB job.
I think its been shown in off season after off season that Ned prefers to split his budget twenty ways instead of signing the big splash free agent.
Whatever happened to “letting the market come to us”? We jumped out of our shoes locking up these marginal talents and now if something does come up that’s attractive, we’re out of it. It’s a ridiculous way to assemble a team.
This way
Ned can hit the dice tables at the winter meetings without worrying about the phone ringing.
/assumingmeetingsareinvegas
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 5, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
28 players on the Dodgers 40 man were brought in by Ned Colletti.
Depending on how you want to define things 4 players on the Dodgers 40 man that have actual value were brought in by Ned. (Kershaw, Eo, Rubby, Dee)
Despite being here for his 7th season now almost everything of any actual worth was brought in either by the Evans or DePo regimes.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
Logan White brought in Kershaw, Eo, Rubby, and Dee
Ned at least does delegate baseball development stuff to guys who know baseball.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 5, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that was part of trading away Milton Bradley, and Colletti went for it because an old-school scout liked him.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 5, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Old school baseball guys are extremely useful
As are sabermetricians. As are expert negotiators. Of these three skills, our GM has none.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 5, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
attendance this year is going to suck
new ownership is gonna have to spend a billion dollars on marketing
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 5, 2011 4:38 PM PST reply actions
After racking my brain the only silver lining I can come up with is that with the Kemp extension we are not on the clock for 2012 so the pressure is off to have a great team in his swan song year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It is possible that I have never liked any team in December but by April have warmed up to everyone.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We definitely signed some guys. I don’t mind shoring up the rotation, especially with all our minor league prospects still 1+ years away. The infield reinforcements are a bit baffling, considering at its best the starters are hardly world-beaters. Might’ve been nice to commit to one significant addition rather than 3-4 helpers. Now that we’ve seen Colletti in action, you almost have to think a veteran reliever is coming, perhaps a closer. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we traded for a starting catcher as well. Really a strange day to be a Dodger fan.
At least we have extra pieces for dodgers4life to throw in trade proposals.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Throw in Lindblom and Ely and its a deal.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Now you’re just getting crazy.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
hey fbihop
MLBN said that applications for the Fan Cave are now being accepted
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
/gotyourback
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Oh
And here’s a message for Brandon Lennox if he gets here at any point:
“We wouldn’t mind it if you updated the dodgers top 20 prospects list on the side of the site.”
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 5, 2011 4:56 PM PST reply actions
maybe you should wait till the voting is finished
before asking for that
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Here's a message for DodgerofTrolleys
Fuck off
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
he gone?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
So, this team is officially
Flanders Follies?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ned must be oblivious to all our indignant criticism
wasn’t Juan Castro available, he loves to pilfer from the NL West scrap heap
"show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy"
Gio Carrera
would be the knife through my heart
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Not mine. Every journey, especially the one towards Team Cabrera/Carrera/Carrarra/whatever, begins with a single signing.
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Anthony Jackson
Interesting tidbit I picked up today: Dodgers might have some interest in Takashi Saito. Sounds like price has to come down, though.
Our reliever signing! (Doubt it happens)
Does anyone think that Ned is doing anything to bring down the Dodgers’ purchase price? Because that would help to guarantee that McCourt sells every last piece, surrounding land, parking lots, stadium and all.
does what Ned has done this year represent a drastic change in his usual SOP?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
no
he did what he usually does, but did a cubic buttload of it
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
seems reactionary
in 2010, the rotation (specifically the 5th starter spot) was a mess. So Ned at least tried to make sure there would be a proven pitcher there, so he signed Garland and Padilla.
in 2011, the bench was a mess, so he’s signing a bunch of veteran players so that he can be assured of depth.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
he's concentrating on younger, more athletic types this time
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Dmitri Young apparently lost 70 pounds
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
No. Ned probably cares about the team selling as it is related to him having a job or not but I doubt he gives a damn about the rest.
All these 2 year deals are being done by him because he can’t pay guys what they want for one year so he has to give them two years (this way Frank pays less now and the new owner picks up the majority of the contract). I hate Ned for doing it but it’s probably the only way he can operate this year (other than going with young guys which he has always been against).
From just about everyone besides crappy veterans.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
damn Ned...
all these new FA signings, I’m gonna have to re-do this photoshop:
by mintxcore on Dec 5, 2011 6:07 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I thought so
but I was confused thinking it was a 2011 FA signing thing. My bad.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
BREAKING: Dodgers sign me to two year contract
My job worries are over! Woo hoo !
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Dec 5, 2011 6:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
especially since
they’ll be paying you after you stopped working there :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
I’d take you over most of these asshats.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
i gotta say
i’m not all that upset about Hairston, though I think it was an overpay.
I’m not liking the sound of Harang though. I hope Ned doesn’t cave
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
I would like Hairston signing, and actually sorta do, if we hadn’t signed 647,329 other Hairston-esque players.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
ha
Ned Colletti is the GM
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
When was this ever a remote possibility? Outside of our bullpen which happened due to injuries of veterans.
when sands and gordon blew up in september
when we signed traenor thus meaning fed and ellis would get lots of time behind the plate.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I figured all along that we’d have a veteran starting at catcher and left field. Gordon starting was a given though.
yet it would seem ellis is going to start
sands may still start over rivera
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
and
outside of the pen, Dee, and Sands,
what youth do we have that’s worth giving the job to?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
FYI
you included Jon Garcia in your prospect voting today, he was already chosen
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
most of them can play 3rd
so Uribe also should probably take something away from that
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Heisman Finalists
Wisconsin running back Montee Ball
Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III
Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck
LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu
Alabama running back Trent Richardson
Barkley not even getting an invite is a bit surprising.
booo to no Barkley
I hope RG3 wins
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
What's Monte Ball doing there
and when is Let’s Make a Deal coming back?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ned
"Jerry adds more versatility to our club and will help us at second and third base, shortstop as well as left and center field. He brings a veteran presence that can also help in the continued development of Dee Gordon."
he speaks jive
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
sometimes I think a black guy’s just a black guy….like in this instance.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
At this point this time next year, we’re going to see Ned on ESPN’s Baseball Tonight breaking down the trade market for Clayton Kershaw.
by Tripon on Dec 5, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would hang myself. Or Ned. Or both. Whatever works.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 5, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
i was just about to ask why you were so negative……
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
im not really upset about these moves in the ol' vaccum.
They suck because of Guerrier and Uribe. I’m not even that upset about Rivera, though I was hoping for Jerry. If kershaw and kemp move lateral, Ethier and Bills bounce back, and Loney is even average, then this is a competitive team (if your like me and think its going to be a dynamite bullpen). As for “we could have had Prince for that”. We won’t know until we see what he gets.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 5, 2011 6:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
We are paying these guys 30 million next year
and 16 this year. We will be paying Loney 6 mil this year. You do the math.
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Ned deserves an Onion headline
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Dec 5, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Jose Reyes signed for 106 million for 6 years(17.6 million), or roughly what Rivera, Uribe, Gurrier, Hairston, Capuano, and Harang will get yearly.
It’ll be one thing if these were just one year contracts or this team is contending and needed to spend for the marginal win like they did in 2006-2010. But all the players Ned has brought in so far makes me this team slightly less awful instead of the bad team that they were a couple of weeks ago. Can’t get excited for that.
Miami
Is th 16th largest Media market (behind Tampa, Seattle and Minneapolis) so while not small, it is certainly in the middle for pro sports teams in the U.S.
they better be signing Prince in that case.
seriously though BH, have a drink.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
LALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!
NOT LISTENING, LALALALALALALALALALA!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Neds Moves
It seems like Ned went to a clearance sale and spent all of his money on cheap schmata’s and he just saw the bill and realized he could have gotten a new coat or at least a good one at the Nordstrom Rack….Don’t know if we end with Harang as well, but two mediocre arms make my left arm hurt!.
ChadMoriyama
Dodgers sign Bill Hall to 2 year/6 million dollar deal, bench Matt Kemp to play 5 utility infielders.
lolz
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
must be the tamest of his thoughts today
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Colletti
says they could add a “prominent” piece to the lineup via trade as long as they can handle the financial part.
STOP TEASING YOU ASSHOLE!!!!
/sobs
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
More news
Colletti confirmed that he mentioned to Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw and his representatives that “if there was interest” in a multiyear deal, the club would talk about it. Kershaw is eligible for arbitration for the first time and his salary could jump from $500,000 to $8 million.
“That’s the stage that that’s at,” he said. “We haven’t sat down and started to negotiate a deal. I have no idea what their financial interest is. All they said was a snappy ‘OK.’”
Colletti said he hasn’t made a similar suggestion to Andre Ethier, who will be a free agent after 2012. But he also said he hasn’t considered trading Ethier “right now,” nor have there been inquiries from other clubs for the right fielder, who is recovering from knee surgery.
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by David Young on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
"Someone help me!!"
“I can’t stop collecting infielders!!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Note:
For all those bemoaning the cost of utility players…….
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
NHL Realignment
The NHL embraced its first major realignment since 1998 when the board of governors voted to switch to a new four-conference format that will also guarantee that every team will play the other 29 teams at least twice every season.
The breakdown of the four new conferences:
Conference A: Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver
Conference B: Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg
Conference C: Boston, Buffalo, Florida, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay, Toronto
Conference D: Carolina, New Jersey, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Washington
Sixteen teams will still make the playoffs, and the first two rounds of the playoffs will be within the conference.
Interesting, I guess.
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