Dodgers Finalize Two-Year Contract With Aaron Harang
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 9:34 AM PST
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The Dodgers on Wednesday officially signed starting pitcher Aaron Harang to a two-year contract, plus a vesting option in 2014. The deal is worth $12 million over two years, and Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times has the breakdown:
2012: $3 million
2013: $7 million
2014: $7-8 million vesting option, or $2 million buyout
Per Hernandez, the 2014 option breaks down like so:
$8 million if Harang pitches 400 innings combined in 2012-2013
$7.5 million if Harang pitches 380 innings in 2012-2013, including 180 innings in 2013
$7 million if Harang pitches 360 innings in 2012-2013, including 175 innings in 2013
The San Diego native - he went to Patrick Henry High School, the same school as Eric Karros, then to San Diego State - was 14-7 with a 3.64 ERA in 28 starts in his one season with the Padres in 2011. He had a mutual option for 2012 worth $5 million, but the Padres declined it and paid Harang a $500,000 buyout instead.
| 2011 Ground Ball Rates | ||||
| Pitcher | GB% | FB% | GB/FB | |
| Chad Billingsley | 45.3% | 33.8% | 1.34 | |
| Clayton Kershaw | 43.2% | 38.6% | 1.12 | |
| Chris Capuano | 42.7% | 40.4% | 1.06 | |
| Aaron Harang | 40.6% | 41.0% | 0.99 | |
| Ted Lilly | 33.6% | 46.5% | 0.72 | |
| Source: FanGraphs | ||||
While in Cincinnati, Harang piled up the good guy awards, as he was the Reds' nominee for the Marvin Miller Man of the Year Award from 2007-2009, the Roberto Clemente Award in 2007 and 2009, and the Branch Rickey Award in 2007. He also piled up the losses as he was 18-38 in his final three seasons in Cincinnati.
Harang has managed to increase his ground ball rate over the last four seasons - from 34.1% to 34.9% to 36.8% to 40.6% in 2011 - pulling him almost even with his fly balls.
He led the National League in wins (16), games started (35), complete games (six), strikeouts (216), and batters faced (993) in 2006, and parlayed that into a four-year, $36.5 million contract that covered his final two arbitration years and bought out his first two free agent seasons. In 2006 and 2007 with the Reds, he made a C.J. Wilson - esque 69 starts and pitched 466 innings. After striking out 434 batters during that two-year run, his strikeout rate has declined - from 8.38 per nine innings in 2006-2007 to 7.66 per nine in 2008-2009, to 6.57 per nine over the last two seasons.
Since his peak in 2006-2007, Harang has spent time on the disabled list in each of the past four seasons:
- 2008: missed four weeks with a strained right forearm
- 2009: missed the final six weeks of the season after an emergency appendectomy
- 2010: missed two months with a back injury
- 2011: missed four weeks with a right foot contusion
The Dodgers made room on the 40-man roster earlier Thursday with the trade of Dana Eveland to the Orioles.
With the signings of Harang and Capuano - or "Capang" as dubbed by Silverwidow yesterday in the comments - this offseason, the Dodgers have five starting pitchers signed through at least 2013. The Dodgers also have a projected payroll of roughly $106 million for 2013 and that's without a right fielder or first baseman. That number includes a staggering $47.25 million for just Harang, Capuano, Lilly, Matt Guerrier, Juan Uribe, Jerry Hairston Jr., and Mark Ellis.
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or has a serious mental issue
that has gone undiagnosed. Or its a case of mistaken identity and it was actually Rampage Jackson
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He was probably on sativa or one of those herbal things that can fuck you up if you smoke enough fast enough
doesn't that stuff last for an insanely short amount of time?
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I don’t know, there is plenty of weird shit to get high. Maybe he drank a bottle of ’Tussin or took like 10 Coricidin pills.
Loney makes millions of dollars playing baseball… he isnt a broke ass gang banger from the hood. If he’s going to do drugs, its not going to be those things. He has money.
Wendys is not a drug.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
What? codeine syrup? yeah thats hood drank, but that makes you lean, sleepy, not restless, unsteady, aggressive and irritable" and sweating profusely
he isnt a broke ass gang banger from the hood. If he’s going to do drugs, its not going to be those things. He has money.
Is the point I was refuting. Not saying loney was on purple drank
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Oh noes, he may have Ken Griffey's ailment!
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Cardinals fans are racist.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
its racist to say that purple drank is a hood drink?
shit I’m a racist too
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Yes, and if he was dumb enough to get into a car (and somehow figure out how to start it) then seriously fuck that guy.
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no way, he isnt going to be doing that while driving and the high last for like 5 seconds. Police reportedly claim that Loney was “restless, unsteady, aggressive and irritable” and sweating profusely at the scene of the crash. That sounds alot like speed, but could also be cocaine, or crack. But since no drugs were in his system, im going to think maybe some energy workout stuff he was possibly on? or maybe just pissed about crashing his sick ass ride, and lost it.
I think if you know you are going to be getting drug tested, you might turn to some weird shit if you want to get high. Fuck it maybe he was on shrooms. I doubt that would even show up on a blood test hours later.
I dont know if you’ve ever done Sativa, but it last for 5 seconds, and its just not something someone is going to do while driving. There will be zero accidents in the world over sativa, book it.
Unless you do it while you’re driving, it’s really damn impossible.
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driving on salvia
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1769400/driving_on_salvia_so_funny/
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is that from that video or his gardening one?
oh and LOL
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it’s from that video. There’s a gardening one?
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
And writing a letter to your congressman.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
yeah it would be hard…. but bottom line the symtoms the cops explain do not match Salvia IMO. not even close.
whatever, point is there is a bunch of shit you can get high on that wouldn’t likely show up on a standard blood test.
yeah thats true…. or maybe Loney has one of thats fake dicks with pee like on Entourage, just incase he got caught.
Wait a second...
He was arrested last month, and the story just broke today? The Dodgers really get no respect in this town.
here
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CRASHES MASERATI
Allegedly Spits at Cops
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So we know 2012 is a not a great team
And now 2013 is already looking like a worse team unless there is a drastic payroll increase. Sweet
2014
Some of us will be dead but those who aren’t are going to have one hell of a team to look forward to.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not if more backloading of shitty players happens again next year. I was sure that 2013 was going to be what we are now hoping for 2014.
He gone.
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backload a Prince
don’t understand how Kemp gets longterm contract, half the team is extendend into 2013 and yet Ned doesn’t continue to spend someone else’s money and go get Prince. This seems like the perfect time to spend big. McCourt shouldn’t care and the new owner will have a great team and lotsa money from cable in a couple years. Buy Now!!!
by padrecarroeselmer on Dec 8, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Because Ned has a boss that sets his budget
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There will be a payroll increase.
I’m honestly not as worried about 2013 and the contracts as some people are. I’m more worried that we punted on 2012. But we’ll see.. I think the division will still be kind of winnable.
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Our chief elements are fear, surprise and an almost fanatical devotion to terrible management!
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I love it when injury prone pitchers sign incentive laden deals determined by innings pitched.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 9:38 AM PST reply actions
Yup
My arms fine
Why do you suck then
Just working on my timing
Okay
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Pujols
Kendrick
Aybar
Izturis/Trumbo/Callapso
Ianneta
Hunter
Boug
Trout/Well/Abreu
Weaver
Haren
CJ Wilson
Ervin Santana
Yup, Mr. Cameron not a competitive team.
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Trumbo is going to hit a lot of home runs with pujols on base
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wasn’t he pretty bad in LF? Has he ever played 3B? I think he’d be more valuable as a 29HR RoY candidate with 5 years of team control for a team like the Cubs who lack a viable 1B option
Trumbo for Garza would make perfect sense.
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It would give the angels the best rotation in baseball
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That says more about how bad CHI’s rotation is than how good Garza is.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure Kendry can do anything other then DH and play 1st
which might be why they are going to try trumbo at other spots instead of flipping him and keeping kendry.
If trumbo actually plays 3rd it won’t be a ton, and only when fly ball pitchers are pitching or guys who don’t give up many grounders to 3rd. No idea about him in LF.
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bouj is gonna play almost every day
he did last year and will again this year. Wells and Abreu and Trumbo will fight it out for time at DH and LF
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If they can it would make sense
play trout everyday and give him his shot.
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I think Cameron is more worried about the next year or two when some of the other Angels good players have their contracts expire (Ianetta, Haren, Santana, Kendrick and one other). Angels could be hampered by Pujols contract when trying to sign those guys.
They could use some of the 50 million a year or so coming off the books by 2014 to resign those guys
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Assuming some backloading the Angels have a roughly 70 million dollar payroll in 2013 with no one but Callaspo reaching arb assuming Kendrys is gone.
I’m assuming Moreno is prepared to spend so they can easily bring back Haren, Ervin, Aybar and Kendrick with room to spare for some bad relievers.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Miami not as appealing to everyone as they'd assumed
RT @BNightengale: The Miami #Marlins actually outbid the #Angels for Pujols,offering 10-year, $275 million deal, sources confirm.
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Not every Dominican wants to hang with Cubans
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i think notoffering no trade clauses is what did the marlins in on these deals
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right
because it’s really a house of cards over there, it’s all projected off of ticket sales in a terrible economy… in SOUTH FLORIDA
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
so did anyone catch Boras' comments about LA?
Am I the only that thinks the Dodgers will be a mystery player for Fielder?
You very well could be.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
The Angels are a more likely destination for Prince than the Dodgers.
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I would be a believer if Ned and the number cruncher hadn’t blown their wad on spare parts.
by BFDC on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ned’s already signed a few fielders in Ellis, Kennedy, and Hairston.
by ishXdavid on Dec 8, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d say if Loney is indicted the probability goes up infinitely, from 0% to 2%.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 8, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
first I like Loney
Despite his recent lack of judgement I have always liked him. That being said I have wondered if the 90 million payroll comment was just a smoke screen designed to deflect attention from Dodger efforts to sign Fielder. I could be way way off and I am sure lots of readers will claim I am, but it would not surprise me if they make a run at Fielder. LA is not San Diego. Signing Fielder only makes the club more valuable to potential buyers. If cutting payroll was going to make the club more attractive to buyers than extending Kemp would make no sense IMO.
If the Dodgers were in on Fielder, someone would have reported it by now. Dodgers have really good beat writers. And a lot of them.
The Dodger beat writers have missed just about every single big free agent signing Ned has done. Including trades, one thing the Dodger FO does seem to do and that is keep their moves close to their vest.
That said, no fucking way, Prince Fielder will be a Dodger in 2012.
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Forgive the hyperbole, but....
“Worst First Baseman in Baseball Fired After Off-Season Incident”
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
That is pretty much the story.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
All you need to add to the story is a tranny named Lucille.
by The Stuntmen on Dec 8, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Still it just seems like something doesn’t add up. I have zero faith in McCourt. I seriously doubt he was just doing us fans a solid by extending Kemp. He did it because signing him increased the value of the team by more that the amount of the contract. Fielder would do the same. I am calling my shot. Fielder will be a Dodger. If I turn out to be wrong then flame away. If not, don’t send thanks, send tickets.
by The Stuntmen on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I should clarify since Colletti would love to sign a then 34(after his 7 year contract) Fielder to a backloaded 3 year deal that stretches the payments into the next century but I mean Fielder will be the Dodgers starting first baseman in 2012.
by The Stuntmen on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I think we'd all (presumably) like to see you right. I'd love to add Fielder, and shed Loney at this point
but I will be stunned. If it were 2012 off season I’d expect it but now…
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The only thing more shocking would be meeting Silverwidow.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think Silverwidow actually exists. It is a bot, designed to post pictures of fair Spanish maidens, hype prospects, and not post anything during the two days of the draft.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
And me?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
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You obviously exist. Nobody would be dumb enough to fake hating Dr. Pepper.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Crap! Same joke, too slow.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
got two posts
Saying the same thing. Nice :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:57 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Whew. Since you know BH exists, and Maddz and GScott, and they've met me
I’m relieved to know that therefore I exist. Unless they don’t exist after all, in which case I ::poof!::
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You exist. Even bots like Dr. Pepper. Not liking it makes you…. all too human.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I want everyone to remember this offseason
everytime they doubt a big name player can get a big pay day. Reyes, paid. CJ Wilson, paid. Pujols, coulda gotten 275.
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More then many thought they would
and Wilson could have got more money, he took a hometown discount
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for the record [and please don't look it up]
I was skeptical Reyes would get $100m early last season and pretty sure he wouldn’t get Werth/Crawford money.
If you go into the 120 million dollar lineups you’ll see that I was almost exactly right on the Reyes contract, so not paid :)
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
I doubted CJ Wilson could get 75 and you and I were one of the few who felt Reyes would get paid at that level but who the hell doubted Pujols would not get paid?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
There where plenty who didn't think he would get paid like he got paid
because the Red Sox and Yankees wouldn’t be involved
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NL Central taking a beating this winter
Two monsters of the midway take their game elsewhere but at least the Cardinals simply move Berkman to first and give Craig the full time gig in RF.
Brewers are talking about Gamel.
Cubs also lost Pena, if the does not sign with another NL Central team that would be 103 home runs leaving the Division.
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I’m sure they are all calling on Kendrys although the Cubs and Brewers systems are pretty bare cupboards.
The Angels need some relievers, we should send them Guerra right meow.
If Harang's option doesn't vest, the Dodgers can buy it out for $2 million
per Dylan H:
If Harang pitches 400 innings over the next two seasons, the vesting option would be worth $8 million. If he pitches 380 innings over the next two seasons, including 180 in 2013, the option would be worth $7.5 million. If he pitches 360 innings over the next two seasons, including 175 in 2013, the option would be worth $7 million.
The Los Angeles Dodgers
We’ll always give you a chance to be a bad deal for us.™
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Haha
Buster_ESPN
Talks between Arizona and Oakland have advanced, but aren’t close to completion. Trevor Bauer a player of interest for Athletics.
They can’t trade Bauer can they since he was just drafted last year?
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They have 24 hours to make the deal
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
So on 12/8/2011 the Angels sign the greatest hitter of this generation and the Dodger 1st baseman gets on TMZ, so we get to spend most of the wondering if he was drunk, stoned, drugged, mental disorder, or simply a fucking moron. Yea us.
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Yup!
And… Got to be either drugs or severe mental disorder.
He could simply have been angry. When did Kemp sign his extension?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
he is known for being a bit weird
not that weird that I know of
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It was announced that day
The only reason I know that is because that’s my birthday
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
well, maybe he just got in an accident and was pissed someone destroyed his Maserati since he said it wasnt his fault, i’d be pissed too…. as far as spitting at a cop, hey, he is a baseball player, its a reflex, wasnt intentional.
im not so sure this qualifies him as mental, yet anyways.. and his tests were clean. Cops recommended to the Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office not to charge Loney with a crime in the case, sources told TMZ.
yeah maybe. Whats going on hurts, no question, but there is real reason to believe its going to be ALOT better in 2 years or so, so just gotta be a little more patient. Ive been patient for 23 years now, whats another couple more gonna do?
We traded Eveland! Today is awesome!
/drinks from purple drank
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did he use air quotes when he said 31
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
God damn do I hate people.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
pujols
one side effect of this is we’re gonna be seeing his face all over town now that hes an angel.. and Im not mad about it.. way better to see him all over the place than some shithead like teixiera or someone similar..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions
Another side effect, is that I will probably be watching more Angels baseball than Dodgers this coming year.
they’ve piqued my curiosity, that’s a truth
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Im always down to watch the angels
Ill watch anything in HD.. but usually only when the dodgers have a day off or are in another time zone.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I will certainly watch more Angels baseball
Now that they won’t be super boring to watch.
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If the Angels
trotted out Babe Ruth’s corpse, I might tune in to watch that. Otherwise, it’s still boring. Maybe the announcers are the problem
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I hate it when a player signs with his original teams main competitor. Rangers were good to CJ Wilson, I hope he blows his arm out.
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it sucks
but he wanted to come home, and would have rather played for us. If anyone is to blame its Ned.
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Actually I think it was
33%Ned 63.5%Mccourt and 13% Aliens
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What if a (good) Giant signed with the Dodgers?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll take Beltran
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
if Lincecum signed with the Dodgers it’d be ecstatic.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Is it because pot is sorta okay here?
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Would not be shocked if he went home to Seattle
by arbfuldodger on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
God I wish...we just got 5 guys here so hopefully they come up here
But I realllllly want Tommy’s up here….one of these days
by arbfuldodger on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
lincecum really likes in and out
when dining at In-N-Out, he tends to order three double-doubles, two fries, and a chocolate-strawberry shake. And he does this with regularity.
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I’d shit a brick and buy a Lincecum jersey.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I thought you were serious for a second haha
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Kent was appreciated.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Was not an original Giant, was signed after a few years with the Astro’s.
Just saying I think it is a dick move if the original team treated you right. Many teams would have buried CJ Wilson in the bullpen and never allowed him to start. Bullpen guys ask to start all the time and are told to shut the fuck up and go sit in the bullpen.
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Yes, Jeff played for Toronto, New York, Cleveland and Houston, but he is unequivocally a Giant.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If the Rangers wanted him back, they would have made him a real offer.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
So now I'm rooting for the Cubs to go get Kuroda
please cubs, please?
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Angels have to be out
or maybe they go all in for this year. Man that would be sick.
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There’s a third Vick?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Not the time, dude
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think Stephen’s can raise the morality flag.
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Good point, but there are a time and a place for these comments
I usually don’t know the time or the place, but they are out there somewhere
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by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
it doesn't sound like a big school shooting
V tech is a pretty big school yeah? Bad things are going to happen.
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Because bad things happen at big schools? Did you and James have breakfest?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In a small area with a lot of people
there is lots of chances for bad things to happen. By percentage its not necessarily more, but by raw numbers it probably is.
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A stolen bike or car being broken into are bad things
Shots fired is a whole other level
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by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
when you get that many people together in a small area
very bad things will occasionally happen in that small area is what I’m saying.
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christmas is a very stressful time for many people
sadly this causes people to do bad things.
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curiosity
im beginnine to think that ned knows his time is up, and his been dealing those signings, having recieve money under the table.. 1 or 2 replacement players is okay, but more than five, there’s gotta be sonething
by letsgolal on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Or more likely
Ned is stupid.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I'm blaming Tamin now
“Look Ned, add up all the WAR!”
I’ll play along. Who is giving him the money under the table?
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Pujols is smart for choosing the Angels
It will make it much easier to set a bunch of records.
When is the last time a player this great switched teams from one league to the other for what will be a long haul
I’m thinking Frank Robinson?
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Good call, and he was called an old 30 when he did it.
Ken Griffy from Seattle to the Reds was still in his prime
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Another good one with Griffey
My dad has told me before about how I think the Orioles let him go after winning the MVP saying he was too old, then he won another MVP the next or a couple years later with the Reds (might be vice versa).
Funny story
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Good God, you and Gary are quite the pair.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Reds let him go in 65, he won the MVP Triple Crown with the Orioles in 66, the team that whipped the Dodgers ass in four straight.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I know about as little about baseball 50 years ago(or 30 or w/e)
as them. I’m just smart enough to keep my mouth shut :-p
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McGwire?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I mean, he’s not as good as Pujols, but….
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
There is no player this great to have ever changed leagues mid-career.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Pujols is better.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Im not going to go adding up WAR, but I disagree. Griffey was the best hitter and great fielder in CF! Pujols plays 1B
even with positional adjustment
Pujols is as good and maybe better then Griffey was
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Griffey was really awesome but Pujols’ bat is just so damn good that Griffey can’t keep up.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe. I still probably would have picked Griffey if they were both available at the same time in same circumstances. Its just so hard to match that kind of production in CF.
I was such a Griffey fanboy growing up that I’m with you on this one.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
No, it’s not. And I hate that particular simile.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Ok pick another simile, but that is exactly what it is. Playing 1B is BY FAR the easiest position on the diamond.
It’s incredibly hard.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He’s just quoting Moneyball now.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Have you ever played first? It’s not all that easy.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
yes playing first at the major league level is hard
but bfdc never said it was easy, just easier then the other positions
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He called it the “special ed class”.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
In terms of difficulty to play, 1B is a much more complicated position than the outfield, but it does require less mobility.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And you rarely have to throw the ball. I understand all of the inner-workings of learning the footwork and occasionally being a cutoff man or picking the ball out of the dirt, but you don’t really have to run or throw.
There is a reason they move bad defenders to 1B.
heh
some years? I’m pretty sure its Pujols Tex Votto then everyone else. Could be wrong though.
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Every time I watch a Yankees game, it seems like Teixeira is making some crazy play on some ball in the dirt in front of him or some pop up in foul ground.
it was wistful sigh
He was less of a loss then Edmonds but still made me sad when they traded him
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B-ref has Griffey around Joe Morgan and Pete Rose, Pujols above Mickey Mantle on their EloRater
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Well I had to exclude him because I knew he'd be the default answer for everyone
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This is a key point
He won’t be setting the Cardinals lifetime records or any NL records.
The Angel career record in HR is Tim Salmon with 299.
In RBI it is Garrett Anderson with 1292.
In career OPS (1000 games played) – TIm Salmon with .884
Career slugging (1000 games played) TIm Salmon with .498
Runs – Garrett Anderson with 1024.
Walks – Tim Salmon with 970
I care
I like seeing GA and TS up there in all those records.
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I wonder how Stan Musial feels about Pujols leaving
Especially since they have a close relationship
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Surely he has other shit ot worry about…..like waking up everyday
by keithc13 on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
and what flavor of pudding to have today
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
It helps Matt Kemp hold on to the record for biggest contract in NL history a little while longer.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Peter Gammons is say on his twitter that the Cubs don't have the money for Prince
so other than Seattle since the Marlins are out would Prince take a one year deal from Mil or some other team and wait for the new owners in LA to get his big payday??
Better take a 2 year deal then
Ned already fucked us out of 2013
1 year deal meaning accept arbitration?
Or did he already reject that?
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Only 3 FA to accept arb were Ortiz, Kelly Johnson, and K-Rod
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Got it. I saw K-Rod accepted yesterday but didnt’ realize that was the deadline.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
want my sleeper pick for Prince?
No? OK, I’ll tell you anyway…Toronto
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
More from Jon
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Incoming TV money explains Pujols signing — and why the Dodgers will be back, one of these days es.pn/uVejaQ
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Sorry, clickable link
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-thoughts/post/_/id/18547/tv-money-pujols
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“And it serves as a reminder that anyone looking to acquire the Dodgers or their TV rights would be more confident in doing so knowing that Matt Kemp, Clayton Kershaw and a player of Pujols’ or Fielder’s caliber is in place. (And hey, Fielder is still out there …) "
Fielder is still out there, until the Dodgers sign him.
200m+
I still dont see the dodgers getting more money than the lakers.. NBA is kind of a third tier sport at the moment but the lakers are like the friggin yankees of the NBA..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Twice as many games.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Also, maybe nobody watches because Dodgers havent been thee Dodgers for along time now? Basically if Dodgers become like the Lakers, ratings would go way up right? or no?
I’m not the rating person, I always assumed lots of people watched the games so I amazed to find out that is not the case. Not like the ratings are going to go up in 2012 or 2013. Yet even with bad ratings, they get paid, so it does not seem to matter that no one watches them.
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it’s not a matter of how many, it’s how many relative to how many TV sets are on. It’s why even the New York teams lag behind the midwest teams, when you’ve got a large city with a large immigrant and out of town population
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
IF the Dodgers go to Time Warner, the Galaxy were able to get the $40 mill the Dodgers currently get, so you know it’ll be much closer to the Laker Billion dollar deal. If they stay with Fox Sports, they can leverage leaving to time warner, and I’m sure will make it rain.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I guess sports is so valuable
because of the demographic and the fact that its probably the last bastion of people watching live tv without skipping commercials
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
your latter point, and former point, combine to make a trump card point. It’s high in the 18-45 male demo, and the vast majority of the viewing is live
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
The deal the Dodgers negotiated with Fox – the one Selig declined — was something like $1.6 or $1.7 billion over 13 years, or between $125-130 million per year. It is reasonable to think that with more than one bidding party the Dodgers could beat that, but by how much I don’t know. I would guess their upper limit is roughly $150 million per year, but that still beats the pants off the ~$37-39 million they will get in each of the next two years (from Fox, for 2/3 of their games)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
so you give them 150 million as a cap
Weisman gave them that as the floor. This should be an interesting bidding process.
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I would defer to Jon here; TV is his living.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I suppose the difference could be in whatever value is placed on having/owning a regional sports network.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
No one ever mentions that the KCAL deal ends in 2013
too.
I do think like the Lakers, the days of games on local broadcast TV will end soon.
did the Laker TW deal kill the KCAL road broadcasts?
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Damn
and here I was thinking I might be able to go cable free when I get a job and move out of my parents house
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Right
Even assuming KCAL is paying the same rate as Fox, Dodgers are just under $60 million total per year. They are due for a huge jump either way.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder what a Griffin / Paul package would net DTS
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The stakes are high for both media giants. Time Warner is under pressure to make profitable its multibillion-dollar commitment to English- and Spanish-language networks dedicated to the Lakers — keeping those networks thriving during the warm-weather months without regular-season NBA games — while Fox may have to collapse one of its two Los Angeles-centric sports cable channels (either Fox Sports West or Prime Ticket) if it loses the Dodgers.
“There’s no question, because essentially (Fox would be) left to the Angels and hockey and lesser properties,” Sports Business Journal baseball and digital media writer Eric Fisher said. “The legal papers have already suggested as such that Prime Ticket’s future is certainly threatened.”
Should Fox Sports West and Prime Ticket be consolidated into one network, the revenue loss to Fox would be in the hundreds of millions.
It is like a different person just posted under your name
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Like Frank the Tank in the debate challenge
by BFDC on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
good lord that’s everything I was about to say, and with a quote to boot.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Um, yeah, it would be nice if you said who wrote the above.
by JonWeisman on Dec 8, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
boom?
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118047107?refcatid=14&printerfriendly=true
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I was wondering when hris started writing in Weisman style.
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I thought I saw that KCAL
was paying around 12-15M (they do show around 35 games vs. 100 or so Fox show).
Man, remember when like 50 games or less were on TV? Remember when you had to subscribe to sports channel to see Dodger home games? We’ve really come along way, thank god.
Remember when we got one game a week on Sunday and only if it was an away game. No, No I guess you don’t.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe I do…. My Dad tells me stories about when you had to watch NBA game tapes… NBA playoff games and Finals game taped on at like midnight haha… That would suck.
Magic’s first title, Game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals, was not shown live on TV
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
I remember seeing a Sports Channel free preview weekend once, I had never seen the Dodger home uniform that close before
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Angels-Clips-Ducks-Chivas on FSW
Dodgers-Lakers-Kings-Galaxy on TW
NFL would be moot, obv.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
with Lionel…can’t remember his last name!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
supposedly 2012, but it’ll only be showing Tier 3 games
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
and coaches shows!
who doesn’t love listening to the coach talk for an hour?
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I'm going to guess
the latter is 1st tier and the former is 2nd tier
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Depends on the game. They rank them every week based on matchups.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
the pac 12 media lineup explained
Any game deemed Tier 1 – of national significance – go on ABC or FSN
Tier 2 games are exclusively FSN or Versus
Tier 3 will be on the Pac12 network
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
exactly. This is solely about pooling a bunch of games which before would have ended up on RSN or webcast.
so to really answer your question USChris, those UCLA games that were only on PT this past year, would be on the Pac12 network next year. So that’s another blow to Fox Sports
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Pac12 games are only on ESPN when they are not on Saturday, Fox has the rights to any game Disney doesn’t want to put on ABC Saturday.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
thank Thor they lost the rights to the BCS games
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
They must have renegotiated something recently, because they were dropped from Channel 13 after (I think) 08/09 and went to cable exclusively
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Here we go
“Agreement will run through 2015-16 season…”
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/28/sports/sp-sports-media28
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
Is there a good updated list of who will be free agents after the 2012 season?
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I guess this is fairly accurate?
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2001/04/potential-free-agents-for-2013.html
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Hrm, guess it's not totally updated, given Kemp is listed.
And thanks Reg.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
cain/hamels/greinke
stand out head and shoulders above alot of this old mediocre crap that will be available..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
If we go after a pitcher
Which it looks like we really wont unless Billingsley is traded, I’d love to go after Greinke.
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Overall there's some intriguing names amongst the crap
Cano, McCann, Kinsler and probably Granderson will probably be exercised… But there’s Brandon Phillips, Josh Hamilton, Carlos Quentin… some good catchers and pitchers (as you mention).
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Keep in mind most of those guys are gonna get extensions and never hit the market.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Right, and as I said I expect those first 4 names especially to never hit the market
But I could see Phillips, Hamilton, some of the other hitters let go, and wouldn’t be surprised to see Cain and Hamels test the market. If Cain has another year of terrible run support from the Giants (which has been the story most of his career there), for example, I would expect him to say goodbye. But we’ll see, long way to go obviously. Just curious to see who potentially could be the “splash” free agent signing new ownership would want. Not as many options as they’d probably like, but honestly not that much different than this year, other than rarity of two huge name 1st baseman in same market. Not a great year for pitching this year though imho.
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Phillips is reportedly close to an extension with the Reds
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Damn.
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First four names definitely since they have no brainer options, but Phillips is rumored to be on the verge of re-signing and most of the guys you listed are guys that their team is gonna make a huge effort to keep.
There will be things out there almost certainly like Upton and Greinke, but free agents classes always look way better a year out.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Mike Napoli!
Can continue to get his revenge on the other local team.
Heh.
Er, BJ Upton? Sigh. Yeah, other than the option guys, UNLESS there’s a surprise there, not gonna be many good options for hitting department. Hope our new GM is smarter, more creative with trades.
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That’s been the general feeling of the off-season excluding the Kemp extension.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
It just doesn’t matter. /murray
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
They’re fucked and going for the long term rebuild.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
He’s trading Gio for prospects that he can later trade for more prospects.
The A’s farm system is bare offensively outside of Michael Choice and the big league club stinks. Not much you can do but try again.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
needs more first basemen
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
trading pitchers
is all beane knows
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
greg oden
is making 9mil this year to possibly play basketball. amazing.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 AM PST reply actions
Interestingly
during today’s testimony in Delaware, we learn that the Angels opted out of their TV deal last year and did a one-year extension while negotiating a new (not announced deal) with Fox Sports.
I have to believe Time Warner will go after one of the local hockey teams, so we could be nearing the death of one of the Fox Sports channels, unless they follow the TW model and go one English, one Spanish
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Who speaks Spanish in Southern California
Man, I’ve been goon too long
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Fox should sell Prime Ticket to the Dodgers, it’s basically a Dodgers channel already.
by Lincoln Kupchak on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Fox can have Uribe be a judge on X-Factor
by Lincoln Kupchak on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Juan: “You’ll be a hit.”
Simon: “What do you know from hits?”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Thinking about Pujols
I can compare it to the Gretzky trade in this way: It has the potential to shift power and media attention to the West Coast from the East Coast triumvirate of Boston, New York, and Philly.
The Eastern cities will always get the lion’s share of coverage because of their location, but with the Angels facing off with Texas and their great organization/huge TV deal, I think this might signal a seismic shift of sorts.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
The Angels and Dodgers have gotten games on national TV just by being in LA for years now. The late edition of SC will probably have more Angel coverage, but I don’t expect the Angels to get Yankee coverage, no more than the Cardinals did
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Trust I seek, and I find in you.
Every day for us something new.
Open mind for a different view.
And nothing else matters.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Money Don’t Matter Tonight
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Bill Murray is like, WTF? Did I miss my cue?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Well, it matters in this sense
IF Texas and the Angels have huge revenue streams and stars on their roster and are competing every year like the Sox and Yankees have for the last 10 years or so, and then the Dodgers join in with new ownership, there would be a transfer of power, or at least perceived dominance, from the East to the West.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
HA!
Biggest Cardinal fan up here just showed up to work wearing all black!
LMMFAO
by keithc13 on Dec 8, 2011 11:07 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
He can cry in his replica World Series trophy coffee mug
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Sums up the new dress code
jay_jaffe Jay Jaffe
loved @susanslusser’s take on new media dress code guidelines for Up and In podcast: “Don’t dress like a hobo, and don’t dress like a ho.”
Vic the Brick
Gonna be pissed
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
I wish he would've been @ VA Tech today
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder if TBLA will lose accounting protege
JSLB (sorry forget the screen name) since Pujols is now an Angel
I’m sure there will be an entire generation of folk who jump on the Angels bandwagon just like in 2002.
I freely admit that Manny is what got me back into following the Dodgers. It was year two of dating Giants fan in San Francisco, and we broke up soon after
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
This would have been like Kobe signing with ………. instead of reupping the Lakers. I do feel sorry for Cardinal fans, but like Laker fans they do have the championships.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
yeah
fuck the Lakers and their 11 championships, and all these rumors of all-stars wanting to be traded there.
I’ll jump on the “fuck the Lakers” train anyway.
by fbihop on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fox witness Edwin Desser testifies:
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Desser: #Dodgers’ TV rights should be worth “at least in the neighborhood of $100 million a year.”
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But.. but... he's under oath!
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that's a nice neighborhood, though
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by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
$100 mill at 10 years sounds about right
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I read that as Fox witness Elmer Dessens
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I still picture Fox lawyers looking exactly like Mr. Burns' lawyers.
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I think the Angels knew Pujols was signing with them for a while now
My Dad went to Anaheim two days in a row to pick seats for the upcoming season. He hasn’t done that since 2003
Arte to Frank: Last I heard, my team makes money. Yours doesn’t. My team’s worth over $4 billion. Your gym isn’t worth four. I have shareholders. You haven’t even got cup holders.
Is this from a movie? Might have overshot by 5x or so with the $4 billion
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he will not be able to see very well, Cotton.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
And Average Joe's gym is going to forfeit
It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see how it plays out.
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The difference is the Dodgers don’t sign Pirates, it’s the other way around.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Reply fail?
But good point. The Pirates are the failed Dodgers of the East.
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I think he’s mocking the Plashke article:
Scoscia has a ring in the box
Little has a malcontent Matt Kemp
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Mindboggling...from Yahoo! Winter Meetings Chat
ESPNStatsInfo: Angels signed Wilson & Pujols for $327.5M. KC, TB, PIT, SD, CLE, ARI and FLA owed a combined $327.8M to their opening day rosters for 2011. [via Twitter]
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
That’s also comparing two numbers that aren’t the same. If they compared total value of the KC, TB, PIT, SD, CLE, ARI and FLA contracts over the last ten years (or six years or whatever) then it would have made sense.
Didn't think of it that way
Well said.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
I also hate when they say, “X team spent X dollars” which makes it sound like their payroll will be $500 million next year.
When in reality, only a little is 2012 and the overwhelming majority is in 2013.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yeah, I made that same mistake yesterday
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
I just want to say that every time I think about the 2013 team/payroll and the 47.5 million they’re spending on crappy players, I wonder why I care about this shit.
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What the world needs now is baseball, sweet baseball. It’s the only thing that there’s just too little of.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I thought SW was more into Natalia Domestico than McRibs…
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Brian Cashman rules
Asked for his reaction to Pujols’ reported agreement with the Angels, Cashman replied, "Obviously he’s one of the greatest that’s played. He makes everybody significantly better. If he played for anybody, he’d make them all significantly better. He’s a special player. I don’t know him personally, but I see what he does with that bat. It’s Montero-like."
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Sigh, nsx on DT is arguing that Dodgers made big mistake trading Dana Eveland. I tried to respond but...
Man, I really hope more copy editing work comes in for me today, I need to do work rather than thinking about Dana Eveland and what the Dodgers will do in 2014.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
they traded Dana?
Wow, I wish he hada spot on the roster but if they got anything for him, nice going Ned.
yeah you missed earlier thread/discussion on that I guess. He got two semi-useful middling prospects for him
which is a win in my book, for a guy who would be likely gone anyway.
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Two live bodies, but not much more than that.
Also Thursday, the Dodgers traded left-handed pitcher Dana Eveland to the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for a pair of minor leaguers: left-hander Jarret Martin and outfielder Tyler Henson.
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Eveland was 3-2 with a 3.03 ERA in five starts for LA last season. He’s 19-24 with a 5.52 ERA in seven seasons with six teams.
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Martin was 5-12 with a 4.96 ERA in 31 games with Single-A Delmarva last season. The 22-year-old from Bakersfield, Calif., was selected by Baltimore in the 18th round of the 2009 first-year player draft.
more from Chad
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
From that link, from Sickels
(on Martin)
SLEEPER ALERT!! Martin was selected in the 18th round in 2009, from Bakersfield Junior College. He has a sinking fastball in the low 90s that helped him post a 2.03 GO/AO last year in the Appy League. He also has a promising curveball, and the combination of the two pitches throttled left-handed hitters to a .188 mark for Bluefield. His K/IP and H/IP ratios were quite good, but he also walked too many guys, elevating his ERA. I am intrigued with this one; if Martin can sharpen his command even slightly, he could break out in 2011. Grade C, but a sleeper.
ADDITIONAL COMMENT: Good size and some arm strength here, plus I like the combination of strikeouts and ground balls. As stated, he needs to get the walks down, but any progress in that department could take him a long way. Sources who follow the Orioles closely are quite intrigued with him.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
To be fair if you follow the Orioles closely your standards for “good” go to hell.
7.8 K/9 isn’t even good for the Sally League.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Sickels is an Orioles guy?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Don't care about that as much as sickels other evaluation comments on him
I expected someone totally useless and terrible for Eveland. He sounds like he has some ability at least.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I personally thought they should keep Eveland
and give him the 5 spot in the rotation but at lease they got something out of it
I still think Eveland is generally pretty terrible, though I appreciate he gave the team a few good starts.
weird taht he was far worse at Dodger Stadium.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
My brother woke up a few minutes ago
and told me Pujols signed with Anaheim so I came straight here!
Ah, NSX, my DT rival, . …. He mentioned something about getting banned here one time? What happened? Im nosey
He didn't get banned
I snapped his whining one day (an overreaction on my part) and took his ball and went home. His decision.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
If we all took our ball and went home when you snapped at us, you’d be posting alone.
by fbihop on Dec 8, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
It was for the best. Now back to this one.
by kinbote on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Mystery Team has failed to sign any of their free agent targets this year.
Maybe they need to concentrate on the draft to build talent.
I think you nailed it. Score one for the mystery team. I think fbi was talking more about Boras and his knack.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The best part about the mystery team is it looks like your lifes work isn’t getting lied to by interns.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
oh yeah
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you mean outside of the fact that he gets tested a dozen times a year and has never tested positive?
The Angels did screw the Rangers
Cardinals will get Angels first round pick, Rangers will get second round pick. Plus supplemental.
Meanwhile...
RT @daldridgetnt: http://SI.com reports Lakers, Rockets, Hornets engaged in CP3 talks. That is indeed the case. Gasol would go to HOU
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
NO would get Aaron Brooks and ??
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
is aaron brooks still exiled in china?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I thought that was JR Smith.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
And Kenyon Martin and Wilson Chandler. Basically, all Nuggets
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
they’ve been literally shanghai’d
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Is it too un-PC
to continue to refer to them as the “Thuggets”?
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
when you get a shitload of neck tattoos
you forego your rights to complain about any references made about you
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 11:38 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Still seems like that three-teamer with Celtics and Clippers would be better for NO since they would get Rondo. They must really not want him.
Paul would be going to the Clippers. But I’m thinking Paul isn’t being entirely honest on his desire to sign an extension with the Clippers either
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Yup
If the Lakers pull of those two trades, the only word that comes to my mind is “Damn”
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
knicks
ESPN’s Marc Stein reports that the Knicks are “considering” an offer that would send Amare Stoudemire to New Orleans as part of a deal for Chris Paul
this is completely absurd and hilarious
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
“Dear Amare, remember the big free agent summer and how you were the only guy willing to come to New York? We really appreciated that. But now that you’ve helped us rebuild the brand, we’re getting rid of you. Thanks for everything.”
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds like when the Bulls wanted to trade for Kobe
but they kept offering players that Kobe would want to play with in Chicago
Kendrys Morales or Carlos Beltran
I would really love one of these two guys to be a Dodger in 2012
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Why pick one
if we could have both?
/wishfulthinking
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Saw a tweet in passing about a possible 3-year deal.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Just a rumor at this point. He and Willingham are interesting names still out there. I’m amazed at the numbers I’ve seen for JH.
And guys like Kuroda are such midgets.
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Thompson: If #Dodgers follow #Lakers to TW, cable distributors would ask Fox to shut Prime Ticket, merge remaining teams on FSW
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by robotmadeofnails on Dec 8, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
But this still happens if Dodgers don't extend anyway
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Thompson essentially hinting Dodgers could be liable for up to $1 billion in damages if early TV rights sale forces Prime Ticket closure.
1 minute ago
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Thompson estimates worth of Prime Ticket at $1 billion.
that is, if the Court allows the TV rights sale before the contract is up? When’s the contract up, anyhow?
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Hrm, given the numbers I’ve seen so far, that’d mean if the Dodgers play out their contract, they’ll make as much as the Galaxy from cable TV rights over the next two years.
If they don’t play it out, they face the possibility of a billion dollar lawsuit. Interesting.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
“The three parties involved in the collision including the driver of a 2008 Mini Cooper, a Toyota Prius and Mercedes Benz attempted to contact Mr. Loney but according to their statements he appeared to be unconscious,” Tang said. “He eventually awoke and he saw all the people standing around him. He then attempted to flee the scene.”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
uh oh
The CHP’s Tang, however, said no results were available yet from a blood sample taken from Loney by officers.
we may have been lied to
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
If it was a DWI, maybe we could trade him to St. Louis?
by fbihop on Dec 8, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
WOAH WOAH WOAH FUCKING WOAH
TMZ got a story wrong? No fucking way.
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
if you READ THE ARTICLE JOSIE
it says Loney’s people said the blood test came back negative. GOSH.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’m not, I just hate accidentally being taken to TMZ via link, so I’ve been waiting for a detail to be wrong so I could overreact. It’s like being accidentally taken to B/r via link. Or being taken to the ghetto when you aren’t expecting it.
“gun store, liquor store, gun store….where the hell are you taking me?”
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Kinda like this guy
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
“Hey baby, baby go home man it’s 3 o clock in the morning, what the fuck are you doing out here?”
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
he could have fallen asleep
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
shouldn’t have drank after taking those sleeping pills
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
‘james’ loney was unconscious because he was transitioning from his alter ego of ‘jim’, who was driving like a maniac and got into an accident.
this makes perfect sense people.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t he the one who did that in MIL?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 12:16 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I dunno, I’m still in mid-pause from Charlie Steiner, waiting for him to explain the play.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
That is one slow blood lab the LAPD uses if the results aren’t back yet from an incident 24 days ago!
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
maybe, but I know that New York has a backlog of rape kits of two years. It doesn’t strike me as that egregious
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I have no allegiance to the Angels, but I do think it would be pretty hilarious if they just said, “Fuck it!” and signed Fielder to DH.
I would find it funnier if they signed Kuroda and A Ram
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
lets not over react until we get all the facts
maybe he was drugged by Jerry Sands or Juan Rivera
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Or fell asleep at the wheel
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
This sounds like an episode of Psych from this season
nice!
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I don’t like any of the Dodgers as people, because I don’t know them. I have no idea what they are like as people.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Kershaw seems good people, based on his interviews and his generous charity work
at least.
Kemp seems like a good person based on his interviews and tweets and sense of humor, though don’t know for sure of course. That’s about all I know. Of course, those are our two best players, too!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Loney
Was the guy organizing the charity bowling events
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
why?
Because he did something stupid?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 12:00 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I think this goes past stupid
IF there isn’t something more to the story then drugs
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I just can’t make the “James Loney is obviously a scumbag now” leap
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 12:04 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
yes
people tend to take one incident by not just sports people but anyone really and try to base their entire opinion on them based on it. Thats stupid as shit. You could do that for everyone and think they where a bad person.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
No matter what happened, I don’t think he is a bad person, just a bad MLB baseball player.
by BFDC on Dec 8, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
My question is
Why did this story take three weeks to break? It happened on November 14. What is the story there?
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Probably
that there was no story to begin with and TMZ just ran it now on a slow gossip day. * legasp *
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
I see the possibility that there is no story — but “baseball player sideswipes three cars, passes out at the wheel, attempts to flee scene, no results from blood test yet” seems to be a story to me.
Which is why people are writing stories about it.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
True enough
but it goes back to your first question: why did it take 3 weeks to break?
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
I don’t know. I wasn’t trying to make a point with my question. I was legitimately asking.
Maybe the reason is that there is no story here, but that’s not where I’m gonna leap.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
As was I
I’m genuinely wondering why it took so long to reach the public. Like Josie’s asking below, however, maybe that’s around the standard time frame for this to become public domain.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
how long does it take for a police record to become public domain?
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
42.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad to be a Dodger fan
First thing that popped into my head with the number 42 was Jackie Robinson.
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Important testimony from former president of FSN
Shaikin tweets from court. Start at bottom and read up.
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Court takes recess before cross-examination.
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Thompson: “We’ve lost teams, for the most part, when we decided to lose the teams.”
7 minutes ago
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Thompson suggesting that’s another $75 million in damages liability for Dodgers if contract rights not preserved.
8 minutes ago
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Thompson: We’ve paid $300 million in rights fees to #Dodgers. Without back-end rights, “I would have paid 25% less.”
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Why not pay less now, if value of TV rights goes up? “I think Fox would rather pay more and have a greater likelihood of renewing the deal.”
10 minutes ago
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Thompson essentially hinting Dodgers could be liable for up to $1 billion in damages if early TV rights sale forces Prime Ticket closure.
11 minutes ago
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Thompson estimates worth of Prime Ticket at $1 billion.
13 minutes ago
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Thompson: Fox would lose Prime Ticket, which generates $70 million a year profit.
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Thompson: “No offense to my frends at the Ducks or the Clippers, but they’re not the #Dodgers.”
14 minutes ago
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Thompson: It would require more negotiation to move Ducks and Clippers from Prime Ticket to FSW. That could cost Fox money too.
15 minutes ago
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Thompson: If #Dodgers follow #Lakers to TW, cable distributors would ask Fox to shut Prime Ticket, merge remaining teams on FSW.
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Thompson: If Time Warner bids to buy Dodgers, it could learn terms of Fox-Dodgers negotiations before TW could negotiate TV deal.
20 minutes ago
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Thompson: “I put our success rate (at renewals) at 95%.” With doubt, Fox might face pressure from advertisers, cable distributors.
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Thompson: We never negotiated with the outgoing owner, always with the new owner.
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Thompson: In 85 ownership changes during life of FSN contracts, no owner ever changed “back-end” rights unilaterally.
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When McCourt bought Dodgers in ‘04, Fox got extension thru ’13, agreed to broadcast more games (100, with 50 more for KCAL, 12 for nat’l TV)
30 minutes ago
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Thompson: Prime Ticket launched because Fox bought #Dodgers.
32 minutes ago
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Thompson is the last scheduled witness. Judge Gross has said hearing will conclude this afternoon.
39 minutes ago
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Fox calls to witness stand former FSN chief Robert Thompson.
40 minutes ago
Berkowit — I needed you the other day when I brought up Steve Reich and Music for 18 Musicians. Tell me why I like it and can’t stop listening to it!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
OK so if we non tender Jim/James if this story gets worse, and we don't have the bamk for Prince
Who’s on first??
Rivera
Or Sands, or one of a baker’s dozen NRIs
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
I would be disappointed to see that happen
James has a shot to be good next year in my mind, I’d like to see what he will do.
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Dodger cross-exam on Fox witness
BillShaikin
Bennett: If cable distributors know that Lakers are leaving, what about Galaxy? Thompson: “I don’t know. They may not care.”
I’ve seen the ratings, they really don’t
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
jason allen on punching edwards in the weiner
"Ray is obviously a former teammate and friend of mine. I told him before the snap that he’s known for blowing up the long snapper on the field goal," Allen said."
"So I told him: ‘You run me over here, I’m going to punch you square in your wiener, dude.’"
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
New Conspiracy Theory
@BillShaikin: Thompson: Current Fox contract expires end of ‘13 season: Sep 30, 2013. Bennett: "Or Oct. 30, if you’re an optimist." #dodgers
The Dodgers think punting 2013 will put them in a better position to get a better TV deal.
How would that work?
Different conspiracy theory: The Dodgers think that whoever owns the Dodgers would be unwilling to use them as a charity case. They have locked in a team/profit for next year. For 2014, the new owner can have a new TV deal and new profits and do what he likes.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I guess the question is whether having an extra month to negotiate makes the contract more valuable.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
But so have most of the Dodger offseason moves not involving Matt Kemp.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Nice pickup
Probably the only weak area in their starting five is now fixed. They are going to be scary all season long. Wonder what the honorable Mr. White thinks…I believe he preferred AK47 to Caron.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
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