James Loney Arrested Last Month In Los Angeles
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM PST
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PrintJames Loney had such a remarkable turnaround in second half of 2011 that he all but assured not having to worry about possibly getting non-tendered on this coming Monday. However, events from three weeks ago may have cast some new doubt into his status with the club.
Loney was arrested in Los Angeles on November 14 after being involved in a car accident that saw him hit three other cars. The incident was first reported by the cesspool of garbage that is TMZ:
According to the report, when cops first arrived to the scene ... Loney told one of the officers, "The bitch hit me from behind."
Cops say Loney appeared to be "restless, unsteady, aggressive and irritable" ... and he "exhibited eyelid tremors and his shirt was soiled and moist from perspiration, from his armpits down to his waistline."
Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times spoke with California Highway Patrol spokesman Leland Tang:
According to Tang, Loney was driving his 2009 Maserati westbound on the 101 when he sideswiped three vehicles for unknown reasons. Immediately afterwards, his sports car came to an abrupt stop in the fast lane, Tang said.
"The three parties involved in the collision including the driver of a 2008 Mini Cooper, a Toyota Prius and Mercedes Benz attempted to contact Mr. Loney but according to their statements he appeared to be unconscious," Tang said. "He eventually awoke and he saw all the people standing around him. He then attempted to flee the scene."
But that wasn't all for Loney on that night, as he was eventually hospitalized. TMZ has more details:
Loney was handcuffed and transported to a nearby hospital -- where an officer attempted to give him a breathalyzer test.
But according to the report, Loney was "uncooperative" -- biting off the mouthpiece and spitting it back at the cop.
Cops say Loney began to get aggressive with police ... so they placed him in arm and leg restraints ... and a member of hospital staff gave him "an injection" to calm him down.
It is unknown how or even if this will affect Loney's status with the Dodgers. After all, general manager Ned Colletti signed shortstop Rafael Furcal to two separate three-year contracts despite Furcal having two DUI arrests while with Atlanta. In fact, Colletti told Hernandez on Thursday that he had already spoken with Loney about the report and that Loney's tender status isn't affected "unless something turns up."
Tang told Hernandez that the results of a blood test on Loney were not yet available. We'll likely find out by Monday night whether or not something turned up.
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From Phil Rogers
#Angels have had talks with #A’s about Andrew Bailey. Mark Trumbo would be attractive addition for Oakland but DiPoto says he’s in plans.
Dipoto is a busy man
So Kendrys Morales it is then
NED please offer Guerra
Guerra -wouldn’t-shouldn’t be enough. It might take a prospect being added or Jansen.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
can't see that
Upside aside(good band name), he still hasn’t played for almost two seasons
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
looks like shannon brown to the suns, too
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
PG: Mo Williams
SG: Eric Gordon
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Blake Griffin
C: Deandre Jordan (RFA)
Don’t exactly have that “scorer off the bench” 6th man type guy really.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
are they going to give aminu a chance to do anything?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
He’ll get his minutes. He didn’t exactly wow anybody last year, so he’ll have to earn his PT
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Still going to be tough, but definitely possible.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Once upon a time I was a big Caron Butler fan, but a three year deal coming off a very serious knee injury for a NBA guy over 30. Not something I’d have done but once Prince re-upped with the Pistons I guess they felt they had to pull the trigger.
I hope the Kerry Kittles ghost does not kick our ass.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The eastern portion of the schedule seems to set up nicely. The 3 teams they play twice are New Jersey, Atlanta, and Washington, and they get Boston, Miami, and Chicago at home.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
From a PR perspective (as players would look at it)
If the worst case scenario is a hit and run/under the influence charge and Loney is not tendered because of that, that would not bode well from an outside player looking in (especially for a first time offender).
Sure
I mean it is not like there is some moral standard that has to be adhered to be an MLB player. But since everyone will be changing, it is probably not going to matter.
Jerry Colangelo got rid of pretty much every guy that ran afoul of the law on either of his teams, including Jason Kidd when he was great. Good players still came to play for Colangelo’s teams.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Look
anyone who wants Loney non-tendered, wanted him non-tendered a year or two ago. I can’t believe that what happened last month moved anyone from the tender the guy to dump him now campaign.
Only thing I think would change it is if the blood test showed some drug use, like cocaine or something.
would MLB suspend him based on that?
would that get him a 50 game ban?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
if he is suspended for drugs
woulnd’t it be without pay? or is that only for roids
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
and back to the marijuana discussion
not sure of the new CBA, but per the joint drug agreement, MLB players weren’t tested or suspended for marijuana use. Minor leaguers were though.
Hehe joint.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Marijuana is a banned substance
but they cannot conduct random testing for it. It must be done under a reasonable suspicion standard and it only happens after a vote by the testing panel.
Wouldn’t this accident be cause for “reasonable suspicion”, at least if stronger drugs like cocaine don’t show up?
So you could very well get away with using pot?
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder how many of our players are users. Huh.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder how many of our posters are users. (uscchris excluded)
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Never smoked anything. If it’s still on fire, I don’t put it in my mouth.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It’s not late enough in the day to put a pole joke here. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Get away with it?
More like get endorsements for it.
reasonable cause or suspicion
is higher than “hey that guy looks stoned or his friends are drug users” reason but less than probable cause standard used for arrest, search warrants and the like.
What if he didn’t start using cocaine until Aug 10th, 2011? Would that change your mind?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe it's LSD
Because Phil Jackson said that made him a better player
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
It must be nice to have a job such that performing it well only twice a year lets you fuck around in your Maserati. I really hope he gets non-tendered. He should have been before this. Even if we want him back, who was going to guarantee him the $6 million he will get through arbitration?
If we wanted him back I don’t see why we couldn’t non tender him and sign him cheaper unless the demand for him is greater than what I can comprehend
as long as jail time doesn’t cause you to miss work, I don’t see how this is grounds for termination
by Josie Becker on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
My sister has had two Honda Accords since 1987. They run forever.
She also has had two minivans during that time as she has three kids but still, the Accord was still driven often.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Because there are a few USC cans here
Its beenreported that Matt Kalil is coming back next season. Which only increases the chances of Batkley staying.
Eric, lets get started on that 2012 championship banner for the site
by Julio Nievas on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
USC cans
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Someone rec this for me
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I knew someone would say that. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
whom are you for? You allegences are not clearly stated on your profile, please do so, thanks! haha… you dont even have the Angels up either.
I'm a free agent for just about any team in the pac 10 thats not USC
as for not having the Angels, it only supports one team per sport
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’m just glad no one was hurt or worse and if James has a problem, this incident will cause him to seek help and get better.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Its settled then
Guerra to LAA for Morales
Loney to MIL for Gamel
Ned can go ice fishing. He already appeared to be in a rush to finish up this off-season, so just get these moves done and go away.
loneys trade value is 0 if you ask me
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
From longtime sportswriter Dave Kindred
Stan Musial told me, early in free agency, that if he could’ve, he would’ve — left for money. Didn’t seem sentimental about StL.
Even worse for the Cards is that Stan is going to be joining the angels in a few months.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
From David Aldridge
We know Lakers would get CP3. We know Gasol would go to HOU. And NOH? Source: Scola, Martin, Dragic, 1st/2nd round picks. But not done deal.
Wow. Seems like NO would get hosed on that deal. I guess HOU would prob have a lottery pick though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’m not so sure. Comparing that to the Clippers rumor, Scola is similar to Jordan and Martin is similar to Gordon. It isn’t the MN pick but 1/2 picks is comparable as well. And, the Clippers clearly said no to Gordon, let alone Gordon, Jordan and Minny pick.
It’s not as good as the Clipper rumor, but NOH was never getting that anyway. It’s definitely not getting hosed (IMO)
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
So you figure they flip Gasol? Gasol/Lowry with no Martin and Scola probably doesn’t do much for you in the West.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
They should, but I bet they won’t. Might think they can make a playoff run in a shortened season.
Probably depends on how deep the 2012 draft is supposed to be.
The talk is “incredibly deep draft”. Of course, they say that every year, but with the stars staying in college this year (because of the lockout) and the current freshman class supposed to be quite good, this actually might be a very good draft.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I remember them saying last years draft was not good at all
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Right. Last years sucked because everybody stayed in school because of the lockout. Apparently making this year the super draft. Or so the narrative goes.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
The biggest difference between Martin/Scola and Gordon/Jordan is upside. Scola is better than Jordan now, and Gordon-Martin might be a wash, but Gordon’s star is on the rise and Martin has probably peaked. “Hosed” may have been a strong word, but if I trade a superstar, I’d need at least a star in return, and I don’t see one in that HOU package.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If the Lakers were to pull off those two deals
I would think they would deserve to be at least as loathed as the Heat and possibly more since Paul and Howard would continue their run even beyond Kobe’s time.
Kobe ~ James
Paul ~ Wade
Howard >> Bosh
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I'd rate it
James > Kobe
Paul ~ Wade (Wade was better last year, this one is actually really close)
Howard >> Bosh
Odom > Bosh
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, we’re probably at the point where Lebron has reasonably passed Kobe, but even last year it was pretty close.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
at least they are giving up real talent to get real talent
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
That hate isn’t really new to the Lakers though
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
So, the Lakers could pull this off by having a big 3 and Lamar Odom who’s better than Bosh anyway?
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t read much on some of the details, but I assumed Odom would go with Bynum to Orlando were they to get Howard.
I’m trying to treat this as much like The Minotaur as possible.
Makes sense. That’s not a bad haul for Orlando at all. Odom is actually pretty overrated these days.
That being said, Odom hasn’t exactly shown up when he wasn’t on a team with other superstars.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
And we’d get Hedo Turkey-Glue here as well. Terrible defense, slow as shit, but a great shooter and really good on the pick and roll with Howard. Plus that would mean he’d stop dropping 15 in a quarter against the Lakers too.
Turkoglu still has value too. He’s like Kapono but good and you actually could hide his defense. He’s also a pretty good ball-handler and willing passer. A really good fit.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Were they to happen
could LA use that special amnesty clause in the new CBA and waive Hedo? Or would that have to wait until next season? Or, once again, do I have not one single clue what I’m talking about?
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
They could
but they wouldn’t. As Michael pointed out, Hedo still has a ton of value despite his issues on the defensive end. He is quite an underrated ball handler as well.
Nope
Needs to have been on the roster at the time of the lockout. You can’t trade somebody and amnesty them.
And in this scenario, I don’t know why you’d want to do that anyway.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the clarification
Also, is it a forgone conclusion that Hedo would be the poor contract that Orlando would insist on including with D12? Why not Arenas?
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Beats me. Arenas is a FAR worse contract with far less value. That’s who the Magic should try to stick the Lakers with.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think it depends on who the Lakers trade to Orlando to make the money match up. I think Arenas got a max deal from Washington so the money doesn’t add up
Makes sense
cuz if I’m Orlando, I’m pushing Gil into any and all Howard trade scenarios…let the money work itself out.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Gotcha
and wow…Agent Zero, how far you’ve fallen.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Right
Turkoglu is tradeable, Gil is not. Amnesty him when you need the cap space.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, or traded for so long as the trade happened before the lockout. For example, Baron just got amnesty’d.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Believe me, there’s no bigger Bosh basher than I, but what do you do after you amnesty him? You’ll have to move quickly to replace that salary because James and Wade’s salary go up so steadily and it’ll diminish cap space.
I guess they could amnesty him and sign Kris Humphries. That could work. Or go after Nene but he’ll end up being overpaid (perfect fit though.)
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
You have a lot more flexibility to do things with that $16 million (seriously! $16 million for CHRIS BOSH) than what you’d save by using the amnesty on Mike Miller.
Using the amnesty on Mike Miller literally makes no sense. Both before and after you amnesty him you’ll be over the cap. It accomplishes absolutely nothing.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
But you still have to pay him and it doesn’t free up any cap space.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
You could do Bosh if you’re happy with a guy like Nene or Kris Humphries (and I could get behind that.) Otherwise, you don’t amnesty anyone.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Also, by my math you won’t have $16MM, you’d only have $10MM assuming the same salary cap figure as last season.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I mean there was $16 million coming off the books with getting rid of Bosh’s contract, not to mention the future years.
With no Bosh the Heat would have approximately $46.3MM in salary committed for next year assuming Ilgauskaus, House and Jones all decline their player options and the Heat don’t extend the QO to Chalmers (this may or may not have already happened.) The maximum salary cap last year was $58MM.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
With the amensty, you pay their salary but just not the tax on their salary, if you’re over the cap, right? I just want to make sure I understand that correctly
It doesn’t count against the salary cap or luxury tax. You still pay them.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Cool so hypothetically say the cap is $100 mil. I amnesty my player making $25mil (let’s call him C. Bosh. Wait, that’s too obvious, let’s call him Chris B.), that means my cap goes down to $75mil, although I still pay the $25mil
I LOLed at the Simpsons reference
And yes, that is correct.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
It means if you have $100MM in salary on the books and you amnesty Bosh at $25MM, team salary as used to calculate compliance with the salary cap and luxury tax payments in $75MM.
Got a little confused with your wording, but I think you understand it.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
For a bit more detail
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Correction
I meant to say Odom is underrated
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
/excited
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Per Woj
Hornets cooling on idea of Boston needing involvement of 3rd team, considering package of Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and picks for Chris Paul
The Brewers, they play in Milwaukee, were in the NLCS this year.
by fbihop on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
former Brave
Former Blue Jay
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He spends 8 seasons in Florida and you call him former Brave/Blue Jay?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Former Marlin
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 1:21 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Alex Gonzalez, not Alex Gonzalez.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
the dude with the .270 obp
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I fixed this quote from mlbtraderumors
•An executive who knows Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine says he’s very highon Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Sherman’s source expects Nakajima to reject the Yankees’ attempts to sign him, play in Japan for 2012, and sign with the Red Sox as a free agent.
For James, with love and squalor.
In another case of MLS taking over MiLB facilities
The former home to the White Sox and D-backs Spring Training, and the D-backs minor league headquarters, is now hosting an annual pre-season MLS tournament.
I often think that
Frank McCourt was so disliked by the local media and Moreno was so loved that it kind of skewed an objective view of their on and off the field success during their owner ship periods.
Well, one did go bankrupt and ruin his team while the other just signed the best player in baseball to a massive contract.
Arte didn’t go bankrupt.
/you see what I did there, Kemp is the best player in baseball!
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
but performance wise, it’s kind of a wash, yet the Angels do get treated like miles ahead of the Dodgers in local media
Amazing what not having a string of boneheaded PR moves will do for a team.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
Stupid things the Angels have recently done:
1. Changing their name to LA
2. Severely injuring their best hitter during a home plate celebration
3. Trading Napoli
Number 2 still makes me laugh
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
If they still had Napoli
Holy shit.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
A fan was also killed in a fight in their stadium the year before the Stow incident.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Something the Angels have done this decade:
World Championship
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yea, i was going for century and missed the mark
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Give me "things a Cubs fan says" for $500
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Dec 8, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
At least we’re still “we” to you. :)
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
We signed Nomar
they each won the same number of World Series with their teams
Actually, I bet Nomar was more profitable as a player considering is marketing ability than Vlad.
Always tell the story
The night before there was a rumor the Dodgers were in on Vlad (who was my favorite player with my favorite name etc.). The next morning I went to LATimes.com and saw a huge picture of Vlad. I started to celebrate then saw the Angels got him. :(
we lost out on him...twice
He was my favorite player too.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Dude never did any interviews
sure you could put his picture on a billboard but he never was out there selling the team.
dodgers signed jp
the same off-season the angels paid out the nose for sarge jr
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Was that the year of Jason Schmidt? Cause that was awesome until he started throwing a baseball.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
Yeah, we should not confuse productivity with marketability. Nomar wasn’t even that good and quickly became the face of the team, Vladdy was one of the best hitters in baseball in his early years with the Angels and simply was a face franchise guy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Kind of surprised BH went this way.
McCourt came in and fired a bunch of people the local media had worked with for years, or chased them to Arizona. McCourt then hired someone that the local media was scared of.
Montero did none of this.
Of course the local media was kinder to Montero then McCourt, one seemed like a nice man, the other seemed like a Boston prick who didn’t get the team he wanted and somehow ended up with the Dodgers even though he felt Don Sutton was a life long Angel.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Moreno
has fired a shitload of people this year, had his concession workers almost go on strike during the season, sued the City where his team plays because he wanted to do something that became a standard joke (Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim).
Is he better owner, sure. But does he get a break because he gets compared to McCourt, yes.
Moreno fired them this year because of incompetence. Based on what they have done this winter it looks like he made an excellent decision. I think Montero gets a break because he’s a solid owner and for no other reason.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Incompetence
gets covered up a lot when you spend $300 M.
I don’t expect to be agreed with, I am just telling you what I think.
I understand, just surprised you think that way, normally you have a good head on your shoulders:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I also
see people fired all the time and I am not sure it reflects one way or the other on competence
But the Dodgers would never spend $300 million under Frank McCourt.
Isn’t that why Moreno is ultimately the better owner? Because he’s investing more of his money into the product?
Question
Will he or Albert be a better player, all things considered, going forward? If it’s Matt, as I hope, the Dodgers got a huge bargain.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Over the next 8 years, most likely still Albert, but he’ll be $50M more expensive over that time and they’re still paying for two more years.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I really think to much is being made of the last two years. We gave Kemp two years to many but that is what it took. Everyone gives two years to many, who cares, the real deal is that you got a franchise player for a long time.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Mike Scoscia
personally signed Pujols and Wilson. He’s the kindest, smartest, most beloved man in baseball.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
angels went to the playoffs 1 more time then the dodgers
but they also won far more games in the regular season.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
So they did a Bones McCoy move
on Loney to calm him down. Color me impressed.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Gift Idea for Humma
Let your kids smell up the joint
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I’m only 7.5 hrs behind as I catch up on the thread…
…I actually do want to make a home-grown chemistry kit for the kids. You can’t get a chemistry kit like I had growing up, due to liability issues, but with some basic google searches you can find home chemistry kits you can make from (a) home ingredients and (b) easily obtainable chemicals.
However, at 4 and 1, my kids are a little too young. Make no mistake, tho — we are thinking about it.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
That LA Times article is terrible
It is so weird and lacking a lot of detail. I can’t really tell what happened. He sideswiped a bunch of cars and then what? Skidded to a halt in the fast lane during rush hour on the 101 and passed out? Meanwhile everyone else has stopped in the fast lane (?) only to reawaken Loney at which point he attempted to flee, but how? In his car? Or did he hoof it across the lanes of traffic?
Then the next sentence is the CHP casually discussing the event with him.
Another thing is no matter how much you think you love somebody, you'll step back when the pool of their blood edges up too close.
Loney surprises all, makes solid contact.
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by regfairfield on Dec 8, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Loney scores, runs
Loney drives ‘n’ runs
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
LOL too bad the first one is false.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
when we get new owners yes
but there won’t be a pujols next year for us to sign
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Angels payroll is spiking for one year
and then will probably steadily go down. I think phil could handle it
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How much is too much for Pujols?
I mean, those last two or three years of Pujols (ages 39-41 seasons) could be brutal.
Then again, flags fly forever.
Molitor says it can be done but yeah, no way anyone profits during those years but if they in postseason for first six years will anyone really care?
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he will pay for himself in jersey sales and playoff appearences
probably
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
just making the playoffs at all is worth a ton of money
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
even harder considering everyone just buys shirseys
now
vote for me here for hater of the year! http://sonsoftheatom.blogspot.com/2011/12/hater-of-year.html?spref=tw
Yes
but we chose to spend it on the Uribes and Lillys and the other garbage we’re paying.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
When I had my car accident in September...
…I passed out while driving, hit a tree, and woke up covered with sweat. No alcohol or drugs in me either. While I was very cooperative with all involved, this Loney thing sounds more and more like the same thing that happened to me. The good news is that it’s treatable, knock wood I’ve been fine since thanks to meds and diet.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 8, 2011 2:07 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
wow
Interesting. Thanks LBB. Hopefully this is the case
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 2:10 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Did you fall asleep?
I have had several nights where I’m driving long distance and i’m just beat down tired and have been afraid I might fall asleep.
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No, it was just before lunch, I was driving home when I started to “white out”—colors literally started fading to gray. It was very very weird.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
This isn’t about politics, but about the stupidity of some people:
Legislative aides Seth Burroughs and Elizabeth Robbee and legislative correspondent Ben Byers were terminated as a result of the Northwest Daily Marker story chronicling their baffling display of bureaucratic bravado. The article included screen grabs of since-deactivated Twitter posts in which Burroughs (therocketship1) and Robbee (betsysbites) openly banter back and forth about trashing a government-supplied Blackberry, taking shots of Jack Daniels at their desks and watching music videos on YouTube during work hours.
It would not surprise me if this is going on in a lot of offices. Most of the staffers are mid to late 20’s.
Oh yeah, I know a lot of staffers who have done stuff like this.
Then they go out and get drunk, show up hungover the next day and repeat.
I guess government work is way different then business.
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As a Hokie myself, it’s been a pretty upsetting afternoon.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Reports now that the"second victim" was probably the shooter, and the lockdown is lifted.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
I checked around 10-ish. Pretty pissed.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Right, they got the best of the best generational hitter and two rings. Plus instead of going to the Cubs he switched leagues. It was the best they could hope for.
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honestly i think they aare happy his ego is gone
and that they dont have to worry about having to pay a guy 25 MILL a year on the downside of his career… and 45 loll
Jayhawks sweatshirt sales through the roof!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
They decided they needed another fat coach
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Ned
What does “unless something turns up” mean?
Also. I really, really hate the Angels. I look forward to them missing the postseason yet again.
Like when a shark nudges the concrete near the ocean floor that was holding in place a body dumped by the mob, that body eventually turns up at the surface of the water.
ned is going to sign Natalie Wood?
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
If she gets two years
I’m going to lose it
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
so anyone have a clue as to why ALbert did this?!
For 2-3 Million dollars per year… He messed up his legacy with the Cardinals ?!
Do you think anyone really enjoys playing in Saint Louis in August?
When you it is over 200 Million bugs and weather eventually have weigh in.
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I dont’ think Californians really appreciate bug free August weather.
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I do!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Okay, but are you willing to bet Pujols gives a shit? He will be living where no other Dominicans live, it is not like he’s going to be hobnobbing with them.
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Naw
They all like to live in shanty towns, cooking on converted trash can grills. OC will seem just like home
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
why would a rich guy like him want to live around a bunch of dominicans anyways?
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He’ll want a dozen Dominican servants.
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they just won
the team’s a year older and not getting better
TLR retired (Maybe Albert felt he had a lot to do with it)
Time for a new challenge
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
the Cards’ offer was reportedly much less.
Normally I’d be sad for the fans but they just won a world series so they can’t be feeling too bad.
And, I will say again…most STL fans I know did not want to spend this much for that amount of time anyway. If the Cards were smart, they would just replace him with Prince and then beat the Angles in the WS :)
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
The Cardinals at any point could have gone “hey Albert, we appreciate you being the best player in the last 50 years, here’s a 300 million dollar extension” but they chose to underpay him his entire career then low ball him at free agency.
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Pujols’ birth certificate: good enough for post 9/11 America, but maybe super sleuth Jon Heyman can solve this mystery.
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Have you seen Albert Pujols long form birth certificate yet? Because I haven’t. Besides, Pujol’s family emigrated when he was back in High School and he doesn’t need to go back to the Domanican Republic every year to renew his visa.
Poe’s Law is taking effect and I can’t tell if this is serious.
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Thank goodness, I’ve seen too many terrible Cardinals fans today and I lost the ability to detect sarcasm.
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Everyone gets complacent
I understand completely. I like the move to the Angels much better than to the Marlins, who btw were offering 25 mill more for same years.
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Wow, just wow
dodgerscribe
Btw, Colletti said they’re considering a free-agent LH pinch hitter, presumably an OF. This could mean T Gwynn gets non-tendered on Monday
Worst GM sweepstakes is closer and closer.
by lnickerson88 on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Dodger scribe does not know that Trent fits that description on the roster.
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Yup, but if we signed Adam Kennedy and thus could not afford TGJ, it is just another sign that Ned is ……….
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Do not let him take one at bat against a Lefty
With his defense thats a damn good platoon mate for LF
I'm with NotJoeTorre
Gwynn ended up becoming one of my favorite players on the team.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Then we could non tender Andre and afford that relief pitcher Ned covets
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I’ve missed Saito, actually.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
designated left handed strikeout victim
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’m trying to compile a list of left handed outfielders who were good in 2008 but now suck.
Hermida
JD Drew
Jody Gerut
Brian Giles (comeback)
Jack Cust
Nate McLouth
Raul Ibanez
Brad Hawpe
Rick Ankiel
Johnny Damon
Ryan Sweeney
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Johnny Damon doesn’t suck :(
Ryan Sweeney is the entire A’s outfield
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To expensive, I liked him as a left handed 3rd base option but man, he’s getting way to much money in 2012.
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I guess in 2013 he will make Adam Kennedy money
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/teahema01.shtml
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I’m assuming this was after a DFA and the Sox are eating the salary.
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Dont think so
he was part of the Edwin Jackson deal, I think the BlueJays had to take Teahen if they wanted Edwin.
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He's George Costanza-ing this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yngq9NmOnFw
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pujols Fail
The guy has a statue of himself outside his own restaurant, which he unveiled a short while ago….
Im curious if the attitude here would be the exact same if it was Kemp doing it, or Kershaw. But hopefully i’ll never know….. Well, atleast Pujols didnt announce his decision on an ESPN special, so i’ll give him that atleast.
Plus rumor is the Marlins offer was for more money, so thats good to hear, that it wasnt completely about the money.
Kobe is the case, if Kobe had left instead of re-upping:
1. Won Multiple Rings
2. Best player at the time
Still think Laker fans would have gone bananas
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Agreed. Small scale riot. Lots of whining.
And that would have just been from me.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Laker fans riot when good things happen, naturally they riot when bad things happen
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Also I believe the comment he doesnt owe STL or its fans jack shit is a little harsh. I do believe in a way he does owe them. He has been the face of that franchise and that city. Everywhere he goes he is loved, gets everything for free, and is treated like a king. People would probably accept him into their home no questions asked. Yes 100 mil over 7 years is underpaid in baseball sense, but dammit I wish we call could be so underpaid…. Its different if a team cant afford you, or is offering you nothing, but he was offered enough to be set for life, and his kids, and his kids, kids, kids, for life! I think its sad he turned his back on them like that. But true if he got seriously hurt he would get offered nothing, so I guess there is 2 sides.
Hell yeah, he would for from my everything, to a piece a shit… Everytime I would take a shit Id say i gotta take a Kobe, be right back…. But seriously, yes we would of.
It will be different torwards the end of his career, when he simply isnt worth the money anymore, and Lakers decide to move on, and Kobe does so, I will still love Kobe. But if he had left us for the Clippers a couple of offseasons ago, yeah Id hate his ass as well as other Laker fans I would think.
Completely agree. If you look at the retired jerseys hanging at Staples — West, Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Worthy,… they all finished their careers with the Lakers. West, Baylor, Magic, and Worthy were lifetime Lakers. Kobe should be in that echelon.
If Kobe would’ve left at the time when he could’ve, Laker fans would’ve been on suicide watch.
but on the flip side, Joe Montana didn’t tarnish his 49er career in leaving to play in KC. Neither did Jerry Rice. Life goes on.
Shaq
could get his number retired this year at Staples and deservedly so. (Though they usually wait until the player is in the HOF)
Really, deservedly so? How many years was he a Laker? Eight, that would be shortest stint ever for retired Jersey.
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Buss is a senile fuck with blood clots who might not see next season.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Buss never had his franchise twist in the wind for a decade
and no, I tend not to make fun of people in ill health unless they are someone like a banker or politician
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Didn’t even occur to me that we retired his Jersey since he only delivered the one championship.
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They just have so many, who can keep track:)
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No, what would have been cool is if the two fucks had not been spoiled children and worked together. Who cares if they bury the hatchet now?
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I laugh when people try to take sides
like they both didn’t act like babies.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Pujols and Kemp or any other Dodger in the last 14 or 15 years are on much different playing fields
Pujols was there for 11 years, put up some of the best numbers ever, won 3 mvps, arguably could have won a few more. Cardinals fans deserve to be pissed he’s leaving, even if it’s anger Pujols doesn’t deserve. I’d be mad if Kemp had left next year, but I would have known why.
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he should a made a statue of his fans/customers instead
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Tyson Chandler reportedly close to 4-yr deal with Knicks
He will help them bigtime, and hurt Dallas!
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Sort of happy and sad at the same time:
Alex Kennedy SI:
Source says that the Lakers and Hornets had agreed to a deal involving Chris Paul, but the Lakers reneged. "Dell [Demps] is very upset.
Woj:
The Hornets are near a deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, league source tells Y! Sports.
Lakers keep Gasol and get Chris Paul.
JACFLAL
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I have to think the only reason Mitch would’ve reneged on a deal for CP3 was because it would’ve hindered his deal for DH12.
Been so long since we've seen a point guard who was an actual point guard
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Been a long time since the Lakers seen good guard play.
I can’t wait for Derek Fisher to be amnestyed.
I knew you’d be pumped about this deal. You always had that passionate hatred for Fish
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Triangle retired with Phil
right?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
doesn't mean they had to scrap the system
but this would I imagine put any doubts to rest, right?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Mike Brown will do his best to put his stamp on his team, meaning no World Championship
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 8, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Brown in huddle: “Fuck it, let Kobe do whatever he wants”
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Hey
KC Jones and Bill Fitch were even great coaches with Larry Bird!
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Threatt was the suddenly starting point guard when Magic abruptly retired for some reason.
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who the F is going to play PF? wtf is going on…. waaaaay too much for Bynum and Odom. Shit we better be getting Okafor too… please tell me we are
Looking like it. That’s the “bad” contract that isn’t really all that bad
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
CORRECTION
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says
per Woj
You fuckers are going to end up with DH too, aren’t you goddamit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess I’ll use my tickets this year
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Adios Pau. :( Hellllooooo, Chris!
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Meant to add a :) at the end of that header.
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jeezus, man, perspective and all.
;)
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he was certainly the most well rounded and interesting as a person
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 8, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
did anyone get a straight answer as to what the fuck was going on with him last year?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn't the team
tag-teaming his girlfriend or something?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
He couldn’t even win a playoff game in Memphis. He’s no Z-Bo
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
He was a playoff pussy, losing our 3 peat over a woman, fool, get another one, you are rich and famous…. girls are lined up like water bottles across the earth 7 times for you man, and you blow it all over 1???? You are just not made for LA
There's a row of water bottles
in the conference room I’m in. I’m starting to drool
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
They're wet
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'm in a fairly serious meeting
and I’m having trouble not laughing
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yeah, he's a cool guy. I wish him well.
I was not always a fan of his defense but he sure could score.
I do like me some Chris Paul, however.
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In all truth, Pau is better than Kobe. But what can ya do
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.
Starting to make a bit more sense for NOH
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
This salary cap thing still technically applies to them
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
poppycock
we’re lakers fans. we wont sleep until we have all the nbas best players. cant stop, wont stop.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a soft cap to re-sign your own players. Signing a guy like Howard wouldn’t qualify.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
You’re just now realizing that Lakers = Yankees ?
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I've known
but you never really feel it until the team loses and management significantly reacts that ensuing offseason. However, I will say that the Lakers way of maneuvering trades in a salary-capped league is more respectable than throwing irresistible cash at a free agent.
Yes, pulling off this deal is amazing considering they should have been the long shots.
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Kobe told him it’s just like champagne
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Good news for James Loney!
On the day his car crash came to light, the Angels signed Albert Pujols and the Lakers traded for Chris Paul.
by fbihop on Dec 8, 2011 3:18 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
So how long until Lamar is dumped by his Kardgal now that he’s out of Tinseltown?
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Tom Ziller
If there’s no Dwight trade, Lakers’ frontcourt for first five games is going to be hilarious.
Scary truth
He picked on the absolute smallest guy on the Mavericks
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Once again the Lakers come to Dodger fans rescue
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This. +1111111111111111
I’ve always likened the Dodgers and the Lakers to having two sons. My beloved Dodgers, the first-born, showed so much potential when he was young but can’t help but underachieve to the point that I’ve come to expect it. The Lakers, my overachieving second-born, compensates for the first-born, but is is burdened by my unrealistic expectations.
dodgers win?
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
My error. Dodgers win.
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Judge Gross: “I will say this .. I am going to approve teh motion.”
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“Something has to be written.” that is what Judge Gross meant — no written ruling tonight.
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Right, at that point Dana Eveland works
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I wonder when Garret Richards is expected to be ready
I saw him pitch the last day of the season against the rangers. got real ugly real quick.
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Before signing Wilson he was supposed to compete with Williams for a rotation spot.
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Loney’s, let’s say, situation reminds me of how sad Nick Adenhart’s story is.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Dec 8, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, so we get to open up the media rights, then quickly get hit with a Billion Dollar Lawsuit. You’d think the new owners would rather wait a year to negotiate the deal then have that lawsuit hanging over their head.
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My limited take on bankruptcy law
The Court has full power to terminate any existing contract if it believes it will benefit the creditors.
Same here. This outcome seemed like a no-brainer from the jump. Heck, cancelling contracts is basically 50% of bankruptcy law
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
That is what I thought
sure, the Court could have refused to do so but it makes sense now especially since McCourt already agreed to sell the team.
And the safety net for the buyer is that they don’t have to inherit this contract anyway.
Sure, but the creditors were going to get what they are entitled to with any sale of the Dodgers for ~$1B, wouldn’t you think? The beneficiary here seems to be the debtor, Frank McCourt.
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Fox has to sue
right? Tying this thing up even longer. This may end up being like the Tribune bankruptcy. 3 years and counting for that one
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
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Fox atty: “In all likelihood, we’re going to pursue appellate rights.”
Bill Shaikin
Fox atty asks Gross to suspend ruling. Bennett says Fox and Dodgers could continue talking.
This is the next step.
They are asking Gross to suspend his ruling (not likely) until the appellate court can hear the case and rule. With this being bankruptcy court I think Fox should just start working on negotiating a new tv deal.
So the judge could invalidate the entire contract, even the part that would make it harder for the Dodgers to make a regional sports network?
I’m pretty sure Fox still has broadcast rights for the next couple seasons. This just makes it so negotiations on a new deal can start right away. Not sure about the RSN provision but if the bankruptcy court wanted it could void it. The bankruptcy court is there to get the creditors as much money as possible.
Yes, they could.
Think of it like a lease (since that’s fairly standard in bankruptcy cases.) A store could have 50 stores, but they are losing money and they believe closing the 10 worst performing stores would turn the company around. In a chapter 11, the judge will (pretty much always) cancel the leases to allow the debtor to reogranize.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Fox is screwed
if they say offer $300M for 20 years and then the new owners say, hmm, we will get back to you later, they already set a floor.
Court case ruling
Shaikin:
Judge Gross: “I will say this .. I am going to approve teh motion.”
Dodgers win.
As the SB Nation Los Angeles Editor, today would have been a good day for Eric to have taken a snow day.
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Don't forget
Today’s real headline is the Aaron Harang story.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Judge Gross: This is the 45 days for negotiations. (between Dodgers and Fox, started as of Nov. 30 based on mediation)
Fox atty: “In all likelihood, we’re going to pursue appellate rights.”
(will appeal)
Fox atty asks Gross to suspend ruling. Bennett says Fox and Dodgers could continue talking.
Fox atty: “We think we’re going to suffer irreparable harm. We’re going to appeal. We’re going to seek a stay.”
Gross: “I am going to impose confidentiality on both sides as far as discussions with third parties.”
Gross: “I am going to impose confidentiality on both sides as far as discussions with third parties.”
Hearing over. Big win for McCourt, Dodgers.
As long as he doesn’t steal Anthony Peeler’s number I’m cool. I liked him a lot more than any rational person ever should have.
I cant think of Sedale without thinking of Pig Miller
those were the days
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 8, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
They should, it is great to get Paul, but it not like Gasol was not one of the best players in basketball. I did not see any mention of Okafor in the last release. WIth Bynum’s health history, front court be thin.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In the long run, doesn’t matter that much when you are getting the next great franchise cornerstone.
Okay but what I see right now is cornerstone, an aging superstar, and a someone who may or may not ever be an impact player. I’m just not sure this is a better team by adding Paul and subtracting Odom and Gasol.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If the Howard deal doesn’t go through then I think you have to look at this as more of getting a guy to build future teams around. I think the plan is to also get Howard though.
Building World Championship teams around small points guards has worked once in my lifetime and I’m not sure Paul is an Isiah Thomas.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Well, like I said I think the Howard deal is still something they are planning. If not Howard then they will go after another big man who becomes 1a to Paul’s 1b or vice versa.
Don’t they still have one of the greatest scorers in basketball history and a young promising center?
Sure, but Kobe is basketball old with his best days way behind him, and Bynum has averaged 51 games over the last four seasons.
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I’m a big Chris Paul fan. I seem to recall his rebound numbers are better than you would normally expect from a PG.
I honestly
don’t know who he is, other than someone apparently very good
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
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I love CP3
but trading two bigs for one small is a tough pill to swallow. It all hinges on what DH12 does now.
It’s a different NBA now with the rule changes which saw the rise of undersized PGs like Nash and Paul become dominant players.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
You're right
but it’s harder to replace bigs than smalls. Granted, CP3 is no ordinary small, but the Lakers have opened up holes in spots that are harder to fill, especially with no cap space.
some fellow named metta world peace and luke walton
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
and maybe having Paul, and moving away from the Triangle, moves Kobe to SF over time……
hmmmmm
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 8, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
It would be hilarious to watch Kobe try to guard Lebron James. Well, nobody can guard Lebron. But Kobe would still be in bad shape trying to guard a guy like Rudy Gay
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
If they ended up with a 10 year CBA, this lockout was worth it. Looking forward to the 2021 lockout : )
Poll
I have a four hour flight from Memphis to LA
Do I stay in my wool trousers, get off my lazy ass and change into some jeans in the men’s room
I would spend that time having a drink or two and then you will care less what pants you are wearing.
I have a contract to draw up
I am at my limit, if I have to think
I dare not try to fit one more down my gullet
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for reminding me that’s on. Last week I totally blanked on Seattle/Philly.
The NFL has the best playoff system in sports. I believe 12 of the 16 games this week feature teams in the playoff picture.
they have some pretty whacky stuff go on
because of all the tiebreakers.
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TIVO baby
its leave now or another night in Nashville
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 8, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
For James
Well, the holidays are upon us again (already?), so it’s time for a reprise of
’The DUI Blues (and Sea Shanty), by me, Bob Hendley, and Zach; Further contributions welcome :)
Had me a measure of rum, now my nose and mouth are numb,
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
I was pulled over by Smokey, now I’m headed toward the pokey,
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
I had too much to drink, now I’m sitting in the klink,
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
I had me one black cow, now I’m stuck in the hoosegow,
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
Was cold, pulled on my Snuggie, now my cellmate wants to hug me,
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
Had me a gin and tonic, now my bracelet’s electronic,
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
Wrecked car still in the ditch, gotta walk — sonofabitch!!
Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand.
Community service in a vest of orange, wtf rhymes with orange?
Hell yeah, ain’t life grand.
(mournfully) (hound dog howling in the background)Hell, yeah, ain’t life grand
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 8, 2011 3:48 PM PST reply actions
@dylanohernandez
Dylan Hernandez
The #Dodgers won’t bid on Yu Darvish
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Angels are gonna get Darvish for their 5th starter :-p
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And Dasrvish
won’t bid on Dodger TV rights
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yu can't be surprised.
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Only Dodger lost in Rule 5
in AAA portion. LHP Thomas Magarejo. Looks like he was on loan to Mexican league in 2011, pitched at Inland Empire in 09 and 10. Decent numbers in winter league right now, but not much of a loss.
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Sorry, Melgarejo
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
The saddest collateral damage of this trade is that now Khloe Kardashian will divorce Lamar Odom.
(I had to look up which Kardashian is married to Odom)
I get the feeling he wont be in NO for long. I think they could flip him for a young guy and/or picks.
Kevin Martin, Scola, Ariza, Okafor and Odom is at least competitive. They might have a go with the season. There’s a gaping hole at PG (go figure) but otherwise they look alright.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
A SG, SF, 2 PF, and a C. Seems a bit crowded unless they bring Odom or Scola off the bench. Doing that brings down the value of this trade though.
They might keep him around but trading him for a young PG and a pick might be a better deal. All depends on what they could get of course.
Right, they’ll have to do something to round out their personel, but these are all pretty good players. There aren’t a whole lot of young PGs out there to trade for frankly.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like Dragic is part of the deal as well.
Adrian Wojnarowski
Besides Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom and Goran Dragic, Hornets will also receive a draft pick from Houston, source says.
Okay….so what is Houston doing here? I guess they go out and sign Nene now and that gives them a talented front court with Gasol and Nene. Lowry at PG (there goes my hopes of trading for him) but no SG or SF. Maybe Ariza goes to Houston in this deal?
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
how about starting when Bynum gets hurt?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can we just add him into a 3 team trade along with Bynum for Howard? The Lakers seem to be able to pull off trades like I would in a video game so it’s got to be possible.
Assuming no trade for Howard, signing Kris Humphries makes a ton of sense
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Depends if he’d sign for MLE money. He might do it just to piss off the Kardashians.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. He’s damn good and really undervalued.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Biggest win of that trade for people of Los Angeles.
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It must be nice to be a hardcore laker fan right now
I really like watching the lakers and talking about them with friends, but I’ve known all the inner workings and plays and stuff like that anywhere near as much as I do with baseball, so while I love hearing the trade talk, Ned as our GM still depresses me more than this news makes me happy, lol
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I feel almost opposite to you
Winning in baseball is so complicated and really you just lose so much more in that sport that really I just enjoy the regular season as it plays out.
Basketball is pretty easy to understand and frankly to see Kobe and Chris Paul together will be quite a treat.
All the plays are confusing to me as far as basketball
and then the free agency stuff seems complicated, then again if i knew nothing about baseball i would wonder why the heck everything happens the way it does, lol.
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WHAT?!?!? How come I never heard anything about this until right this second?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
As was mentioned earlier, Arenas is the more necessary dump for the Magic. I don’t know if the Lakers have enough scraps to match up the dollars though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Fitting today is the Immaculate Conception
LA Sports are reborn!
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
But you do know it is the Immaculate Conception of Mary, right?
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So if Mary couldn’t have original sin to be able to conceive Jesus, why don’t Anna and Joachim (Mary’s folks) have to be without original sin to conceive Mary?
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I'm not saying they are bad
but they sound exactly the same in every album
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I almost typed the exact thing.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
consistency is great
for awhile, but whenever they release a new song I just think, “whats the point?” Don’t I already have htis album x10?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Their released, then unreleased album Into The Unknown sounds nothing like BR. Hence them pulling it back.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
You’re my new favorite TBLA poster.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
GOD AND MAN
don’t believe in
MOOOODERN LOOOOVE
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by David Young on Dec 8, 2011 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Quit calling me Mary
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Not surprising at all
1) We live in a basketball town, and basketball season starts in a few weeks
2) The Angels are not even the most popular MLB team and it’s December
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
and the pujols signing went down hours ago
the la deal went down minutes ago
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its their town
we just live in it
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Gurnick
GM’s bottom line: “It’s hard to say if we’re on the road to make a deal or not at this point. We had one with some life to it, but the team filled its need in a different direction and still has the player we like. There are so many conversations here, you don’t know if there’s still life to them until everybody gets away and goes back to their city, and then you see if there’s still momentum to take it to the next level of discussion.” — Colletti
How bout some sleuthing here?
Guessing what reliever or bit player Ned Colletti will sign next doesn’t have the same cachet to me after the Lakers traded for Chris Paul and the Angels signed Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson. At this point, who cares.
{Checks blog}
Yup, it’s still a Dodger blog.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I just feel that all of the moves outside of the Kemp signing is just Ned spinning his wheels. I’m a fan of the Dodgers, but it seems like they’re just being left behind by the events of the city.
Next year will be the same as last year for me…I will watch for Kershaw and Kemp, only going to live games when Clayton is pitching
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 8, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Gordon will change your mind. Has everyone forgotten how exciting Dodger baseball was in Aug/Sept?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
2012 Dodgers = 2010 Giants? There’s always hope?
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
That is the problem when shitty teams win a World Championship, gives to much hope to crappy teams.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When Ethier tries to finish top 3 in MVP voting himself
Loney shows all the potential all the scouts knew was there, Billingsley has his best year yet, Kemp rocks it again, and the bullpen does what it does best, this team will be right there in the end fighting for a playoff spot :)
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All we have to do is hope Corey Smith becomes a 4 win player, Zach Lee gets promoted in June and becomes an elite pitcher, Juan Rivera hits like its 2006 and we pick up Adam Dunn of waivers and he turns into Adam Dunn again.
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Jesus everything that lead to the Giants winning was dumb.
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Let's see
They had Bumgarner come up and kick ass as a rookie
Cody Ross have a pretty good year
Burrell come back from the depths
Torres have 6 WAR season doing the only thing he’s ever done
Posey as the best hitting catcher in the league up for 3 or 4 months
How much more crap was there that would blow my mind?
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Won the middle relief lottery.
Aubrey Huff had an .880 OPS.
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Halladay also might have won the Cy Young.
/BleacherReport
by Eric Stephen on Dec 8, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Gordon was fun to watch, but not why I tuned in
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 8, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Guerra to Toronto?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Reading tea leaves here... but let's see, a team filled a need, still has player they like...
Angels signed Pujols, has extra first baseman or two…
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well
on two fronts. But really they had no choice with no guarantee of him signing.
Do you think they should package Kaman and the T-Wolves pick for something.
Not anymore, no. The hole at SF is filled with Caron Butler so now the gameplan is to hold tight. Re-sign Jordan and perhaps work out an extension. I’d look to trading Kaman for a point guard (Lowry from Houston makes sense) but otherwise there’s no longer any urgency.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
I kind of want to watch a healthy Kaman and Griffin, and keep the pick. If we can’t get Howard or Paul with the pick why trade it now? This team is barely going to be playoff capable so they might as well hope to strike gold in the “loaded” draft.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Agreed
The pick is absolutely safe now.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I would loved to have dealt Gordon and Jordan for Paul/Okafor/Ariza
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Absolutely, but to BH’s point, you can’t do it without Paul being willing to sign the extension.
by Michael White on Dec 8, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Goofy won the Heisman. Congrats to Andrew.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I've been on the phone nearly all day
But besides the calls I had to take I didn’t do a whole lot of calling out to customers. Uh oh, lol.
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I've been buried all week
Barely had time to fuck off on here
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Reg gave me a good topic
I wonder how the White Sox are feeling about Adam Dunn. They’ve gotta think he is going to improve a lot, so they want to see how his first few months go. He would be a super buy low candidate at this point, I wonder what he would cost as far as a trade goes and how much salary the White Sox would eat, if any.
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So are the Dodgers, for the next two years anyway. Why not take a flier on Dunn if he costs very little?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
In that line of logic, why not G. Scott. Or Maddz.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
I would totally sign up for G. Scott and Maddz both being on the Dodgers.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see how anyone can say they're done in 2013
when no one knows what the new owners will spend
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Clearly, we’ve never met. Hi, I’m Humma. I say shit like this.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’d amnesty his ass based on the name change alone.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The hell
Does amnesty mean in a basketball context?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Team gets salary cap relief by dumping (but still paying) an overpaid player.
We would amnesty Juan Uribe if MLB had a cap.
If you just think about it, it would show just how dumb the salary cap can be.
A team is intentionally dumping a potentially useful player and still paying his salary so the team can save a few million.
Eh, it’s not like it’s something that can be used over and over. It’s a one time thing that was bargained into the new CBA and the deal most likely wouldn’t have gotten done without it.
Its the 2nd time the amnesty clause will be invoked. I guess what I have issue is that’s its being protrayed as a free get out of jail card. Its not that, you still have to pay your fine.
You don’t have to pay the luxury tax penalties that the contract could add. They still have to pay the full contract but it could still save them millions.
This is my point here. Its the cap that causes this, not the contract. The cap just makes it harder to create deals, but I personally don’t think it creates competitive balance.
Amnesty is fogiving someone for a crime
so this is forgiving a team for going over the cap? Seems a weird way to think of it
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bubble dibble
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
that’s sort of my point….Double Drible, All Pro Basketball, Tecmo Bowl all felt the need to create pixelated halftime shows and I’ve just always wondered why
Because
We weren’t that far removed from this
And that frozen penis half time show was mindblowing.
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we used to play this game
for hours at 2am on friday nights. we would do the full quarters and everything (rather than 5 min each, we would go the full 20 or whatever it is)
If you were Albert Pujols
where do you buy your So Cal house, is it Newport Beach or Laguna Beach? I don’t know where Angel players like to live.
For his salary
he can live in Palm Springs and coptor in for the game
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
WE DON'T HAVE APPLEBEES IN ORANGE COUNTY
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO OVER THIS. Its Chilis or Red Robins or bust
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ok we have applebee
and no one goes to fountain valley unless they need to go to frys
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I believe the applebees in fountain valley is where I started tweeting how terrible it was and y’all blew up my phone, to the amusement of my grandmother
A friend's daughter
lives in Fountain Valley. You owe her an apology
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
some lady
in one of my education classes was in my group and i did like.. all the work and she “rewarded” me with red robin. i was gracious and nice but damn, red robin? im such a snob
Oh come on, expensive but great burgers. Even for a snob.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
had a hamburger at ruby's last night
man that was tasty
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Taco Bell, KFC, and Inn & Out are all headquartered in Irvine. We are the fast food capital of Orange County.
or any of those places AND bust!
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You guys have a sonic
The closest to me is Bakersfield or Anaheim. It’s not fair
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sonics isn't very good anyways
and they only put that in a year or two ago
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
He can be the biggest fish
in Lake Elsinore
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Shitty day for Dodger / Clipper fans
Great day for Angel / Laker fans
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Chris Paul has an expiring contract
Gasol and Odom make some nice money, who are Lakers taking on to complete this deal
Welcome back Ariza, how you doing Mr Okafor?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Gotta be Okafor, right? They need help in the front court ASAP.
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shit I got caught up in working
and missed my chance to leave at 5. Now I have to wait till 6 so traffic is less horribad
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
{snort} "We traded for C3P0?!?" {yawns} {goes back to bed confused}
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by underdog on Dec 8, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i like it.
the snorts and yawns are really what made it for me.
true or false
this is one of the most bad ass music video from the early days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdPQp6Jcdk
Considering how many music videos
are nothing more then the band “rocking out” in a werehouse with weird lighting, I say this qualifies as a music video.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
But what would you compare it to
unless you are going to compare to every music clip from a show from the 50s and 60s when shows like Bandstand, Ed Sullivan and things like the clip above were done. I guess I question the usage of both early days and music video.
i guess
i compare it to clips from the 60s that were more than just performance based/lip synching. many bands would do a lip synch performance but try to make it look real while this performance is more choreographed and planned out and less just “rock out”
I'll be short here but
I guess my sensitivity is that I saw a lot of this stuff growing up. I saw the Beatles, Elvis, and Sinatra. I saw Bandstand, Midnight Special, In Concert, Soul Train. The music video craze, yep I was there too.
So to me, early days in music video, I tend to think of Pink Floyd, ZZ Top, Peter Gabriel, Michael Jackson of really pushing the form out. Performers like the one’s above did a good job but then I appreciate a good clip of Sinatra doing a Rat Pack gig or Miles Davis and John Coltrane performing So What.
Seeing a clip of Ray Charles on an early SNL show singing What I’d Say is classic.
Heck even Kermit the Frog singing The Rainbow Connection with Blondie is cool.
So did not want to be appear unreasonable, it is just I read the term differently that’s all.
no worries
i guess my definition of what i posted would be a lip synched performance that isn’t meant to LOOK as if it was a real live performance, but was more for the production/choreography.
what would you call Bob Dylan’s Subterranean Homesick Blues video?
I detest this version of this song. Station flipper.
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it's very good
bad lip synching, but some excellent compositions
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Cubs trade Colvin and Casey Weathers
to the Rockies for Ian Stewart and DJ LeMahieu
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
didn’t Vin make that joke too? :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve heard of that LeMahieu guy before.. Why?
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
I guess a third baseman that probably won’t amount to anything is better than a left fielder that probably won’t amount to anything.
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Le Mahaieu was an absolute singles machine in AA this year, Weathers was drafted before Jason Heyward and appears to be very bad. There’s another wash.
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I want $100
or I’m not coming tomorrow
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Depending on how many years it’s worth looking into at least.
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Fuckers
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.
Well there goes my case for not allowing vetos in my fantasy league.
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I’ll have to read much more into this but at first glance I can’t see any reason why he would kill the trade.
Woj:
The NBA has killed the proposed deal to send Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell Yahoo! Sports
To be fair they have learned being a giant baby works very well.
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The league owned Hornets were taking on around $12 mil more salary with this deal. I’m not sure how either GM thought this ever had a chance. Now if they revise it and add someone like Okafor to the deal to even out the money then the owners will back off.
Remember, at last years trade deadline Cuban and a couple other owners flipped out when the Hornet’s took on an additional $500,000.
Well you’d think after gaining massive amounts of money in a new CBA they’d be more willing to give a little hahahahahahaha
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this is bullshit
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
SCHADENFREUDE ftw.
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this is actually realliy sad if you see the full video
it was blatant neglect by the parents, the kid was freaked out for like a minute and the parents just kept laughing and filming until the kid finally lashed out
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Eek
didn’t really there was a full video posted somewhere. yeah there are some sadistic ones out there. Another video on the same site had a kid sleeping on the couch and whoever is filming is also using a laser light toy to play with the family dog and then moves it up to the poor kid’s crotch, and then the dog bites said crotch. And there was much laughter. :/
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it completely went over my head at the time
oh community
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
What bullshit though…. Lakers actually gave up alot I think, and was risky move for them. Wasnt like getting Gasol for free basically. Off a tweet I just say, and agree with The funniest part: The Hornets had probably gotten one of the better returns on a superstar in NBA history. Love this league
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1g02d17Rp
they did give up a lot
like reg said, the NBA owners are a bunch of fucking babies
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re going to pretend that the Hornets are in any way an independent team, you need to let them operate as such. As is, you got one team that is worse than useless.
The league owned Hornets were taking on around $12 mil more salary with this deal. I’m not sure how either GM thought this ever had a chance. Now if they revise it and add someone like Okafor to the deal to even out the money then the owners will back off.
by VegasBlues on Dec 8, 2011 6:10 PM PST
Remember, at last years trade deadline Cuban and a couple other owners flipped out when the Hornet’s took on an additional $500,000.
by VegasBlues on Dec 8, 2011 6:11 PM PST
I will ammend what I said above though. Evening out the money might not get the other owners to back down. Remember, the league still wants to sell the Hornets and having Paul on the roster might change the bids (I highly doubt it’s true though).
Paul has made clear he is not staying, the new owner won’t have him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Or this whole offseason sans the Kemp signing.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
hope this trade doesnt go thru
Chris Paul is a great player, but I just dont think a PG thats used to having the ball all the time can play with Kobe Bryant.
Right now, the team is built perfectly around Kobe.
If the ultimate plan is to get Paul/Howard, might as well trade Kobe.
why?
the deal is to build for the future and allow Kobe a great supporting cast for the remainder of his career.
Kobe would be able to deal with it, he knows his career is winding down
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
They did fine in the Olympics
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
damage control
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
David Stern sucks for "basketball reasons"
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
...
@TrippingOlney Not Buster Olney
HEARD THIS: BUD SELIG LOOKING TO CANCEL ALBERT PUJOLS DEAL BECAUSE OF "BASEBALL REASO
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
NS."
damn cut and paste fail.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
if the league bends over the players for billions
AND doesnt do shit to curtail the sort of thing that allegedly caused the lockout in the first place, then fuck them. this is their fault.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
my girlfriend just broke up with me because of “relationship” reasons
by dodgerpreacher on Dec 8, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Tough time of year for an LA sports fan
No baseball games, USC football season over, UCLA football team can’t find any coaches looking at coming here, USC and UCLA hoops teams both suck, NBA season delayed due to strike, Fox/Dodgers dust-up not close to closure.
Damn slow news day.
Man do I dislike Wolf. It’s amazing that such a negative guy is covering the team. I get the feeling he thinks they should discuss moves with him before they make him. Extremely bitter.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want a homer either but he appears to have some serious issues w/the football program.
He recently did an interview with 570, with Petros and Money
Both Petros and Wolf are asshats. Haven’t listened to 570 since, and not going to. I’m not sure why Petros continues to shit on USC. I get that he’s trying not to be biased being an alum and all, but he’s just saying things totally unbound. Wolf continues to harp that Kiffin is not a good coach.
I think both Wolf and Petros got stiff armed by Carroll. (I would do the same, BTW) And they’re acting like a couple of bitter old ex-wives. Fuck ’em.
Funny thing about Petros—he got an educaiton (supposedly) from SC on a free ride and he’s on radio and TV, BUT HE DOESN’T HAVE A VOICE OR A MUG FOR EITHER!!! And he’s bitching? Amazing.
I worked with a guy who once got a “$5 dollar scratcher” on a trip to Bangkok, but he was not as happy as you and certainly not richer
by KellyStephen on Dec 8, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
First the first time in a long time
Chevy Chases old man shtick paid off:
“What the hell are regionals?”
CJ Wilson’s only had 2yrs of being a good reliable starter, and he’s going to be 31 next season.
Seems like a risk to give him 5/77..
Rare for a late bloomer like that to stay good, or even bloom at all.
sometimes ya gotta take the chance
and its not like he has only pitched in the majors for 2 years, he had success as a reliever before that.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
But, those guys I think are hard to project bc his GB rate isnt that great, but somehow he doesnt give up homers.
Another guy that outpitches his X-FIP every year.
So basically he’s either a boss or just lucky?
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldnt gamble 5/77 on a guy that might just be lucky.
Plus, looking at this IP year to year levels, seems like an injury risk.
2008- 46.1
2009- 73.2
2010 – 204.0
2011 – 223.0
Thats a large spike in innings on an arm that hasnt been used to it.
Rangers not even attempting to resign him is a red flag to me.
a remake of american psycho
set in contemporary times. Its so stupid it hurts.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
…….huh?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
It was lo, these many (11) years ago.
Hollywood is really scraping desperately.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
This just in...
Ned had a deal in place to sign Fielder, but David Stern cancelled it for basketball reasons.
What? No! Not again Ned!
Dan Gilbert can suck it.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
well yeah
won’t let him go to the Lakers
basketball reasons
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
So let me get this straight
Today in Dodger news:
1) Our crosstown rivals signed one of the best pitchers available and some guy named Pujols
2) Our starting first baseman, who is one of the worst-hitting first basemen in the league, showed some extraordinarily shitty behavior
3) Our owner, who will soon be our former owner, got the right to negotiate a new TV deal, potentially opening the team up to a billion dollar lawsuit by the guys who have the current TV deal
Did I get everything?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
we finalized a deal with a pitcher who is really not all that good
and our GM is looking at some LH pinch hitter
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot about Harang! How could I have forgotten about Harang.
Gosh, what a red-letter day for Dodger fans. And by red letter, I mean scarlet. And the letter is F for Fuck Me.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
That was the good news: the shitty pitcher who we didn’t want got traded for two minor league roster fillers.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
This shitty pitcher would have been a lot cheaper than each of the two shitty pitchers we signed, letting us bring back Hiroki for another season.
by The Dude Abides on Dec 8, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
If Kershaw was offered 10/220 and left for 10/252…i’d be disappointed.
Its almost like if you’re willing to go 10/220…why not go all the way to get it done.
$252 million is still 15% more than they were offering.
Say you were looking at a house that you really liked and offered $500,000. The owners come back with $575,000 and said that they had a buyer at that price. What would you do? I don’t know about you, but I’d probably tell them to take that offer.
As a fan, I’d be pissed, but I totally get it from the owners’ standpoint, too.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Mozielak also spoke about how they made an attempt to monetarily quantify his icon status. Arbitrarily guessing $20M of that salary was “Thanks for being such a good Cardinal,” in the franchise’s estimation, the Angels probably overpaid by 50 million.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
now here's something interesting
according to this article, the player the Dodgers had been targeting in a trade was Daniel Murphy from the Mets.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM PST reply actions
yeah
that actually wasn’t there the first time I read that article.
Murphy is actually somone I would want. Young, plays 3rd, has a bit a of pop, hit well last year.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
same
that’s why it’s weird Ned was trying to do it……..
:)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Doubt the Mets would part with Murphy cheaply.
He’s played mostly 1st base with them, but has played 2b, 3b, and OF.
wonder what it was they wanted
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
IDJ
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’d give up Eovaldi/Guerra both for Murphy, and make Murphy the Dodgers starting 3rd baseman for the next 3-4 years.
He played in the minors mostly at 3b
filled in there this year
when Wright was out as well.
had a 125 OPS+
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
.350 wOBA
3.2 WAR
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
no
though it makes me wonder what they’d do with Uribe
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Its cool dudes we got jerry hairston instead
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 8, 2011 11:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Andy MuCulloch
Heard the Mets are absolutely listening to offers for Murphy and Niese. But their asking price is high, and right now no deal is imminent.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Heard this
Andy McCulloch is Scottish for Buster Olney
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
FA LH possibility
Russel Branyan?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 PM PST reply actions
Wow, guess I didn't miss much
BH- I am insulted (not really ) but INSULTED that you would think I would hop on the LAAAAAAA OF Irvine Parking Lot bandwagon for Pujols. The CARDS are my second favorite team, Pujols or not. in fact, I converted my betrothed from an Angels to a Dodgers fan. When he called tonight, the first thing I said was "If you are going to be an Angels fan again, it’s over. " No joke. He agreed the contract is a inevitable albatross of Pierre-esque proportions :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
what is with people who grow up in the heart of LA as angels fans btw?
just don’t get it. I know they’ve had more recent success… but still, really? I’ve been to Angel Stadium once with a friend who had free tickets and I really have no desire to go back and look at the fake ugly rock again.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
i was four, so, no.
BUT i remember watching dodger games as a really young child with my older brother and dad. always. never angels.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
i don't really see it that way
if grow up in LA (especially the city of LA or SFV or whatever) I dont see the appeal of the angels. It’s not like they were a dynasty during my childhood or anything. they had a couple of good to great years and then petered off. theres something more special about the dodgers franchise that the angels will never really have. it’s the history, the legends, vin, all of it. the angels just cant compete with that, in my mind.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Angels have a recent ring in a box and most of us Dodgers fans were really young in 1988.
How many casual fans are gonna jump on Arte Moreno’s Wild Ride? A shitload I assume
well then they were never really die hard dodgers fans
im a die hard. always will be. and i can’t reconcile being fans of both, although i don’t loathe the angels, i just dont like them at all.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
i sure hope so :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Personally I think LA fans should root for both teams
its dumb not too. but I also have an irrational hate for the city of Anaheim and their punkass baseball team
David Stern should schedule an appointment for a good heart-fucking
by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
And by the way
this JLo story is really upsetting….
Could it be some kind of psychological medication that your not supposed to drive on?
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Handin Out Life Lessons
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Man to woman: “Would you sleep with me for $10.00?”
Woman: “No!”
Man: “Would you sleep with me for $10,000.00?”
Woman: “Sure.”
Man: “How about for $50.00?”
Woman: “No! What kind of a woman do you think I am?”
Man: “We’ve already established that. Now we’re discussing price.”
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