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Christmas Duck Has Been Edition

For some of his past interviews you can check out the Duck Talk Section where we ask the questions we want to ask and try to see through the clichéd responses we normally get. For those of you new to Duck Talk, this is a complete fabrication based on interviews within my troubled mind.

Duck: Congratulations Ned on a wonderful winter. Couldn't have been easy to get so many players to defer millions into the 2013 season so you could build a competitive team this winter loaded with players who were once good and not having to rely on the farm system to fill the holes.

Ned : Thanks, the whole management team worked hard to build the best team we could build.

Duck: First off, the biggest and greatest move has to be the signing of Matt Kemp, making him a Dodger for the next eight years.

Ned : Yes, we were pleased to give Matt Kemp the largest contract in the history of the organization. He's a special talent and Dodger fans can now look forward to seeing Matt Kemp everyday for the next eight years.

Duck: No misgiving about Matt getting lazy and having a bunch of 2010 seasons?

Ned: A few, but when Dave Stewart looked at me with those slitted black eyes, and told me that Matt Kemp was not going to rest until he was the greatest Dodger to ever play the game, I was sold.

Duck: To help out Matt, you resigned Juan Rivera who was such a key piece to the resurgence of the team this past summer.

Ned: Juan was a huge asset to the team in the 2nd half of 2011 and we expect him to continue to do great things for us in 2012/2013. You know we brought in this number cruncher named Alex Tamin who showed us a few things we were unaware of.

Duck: Like what?

Ned: For example did you know that James Loney and Andre Ethier have zero power against left handers?

Duck: Ya don't say?

Ned: Yup, that is why we signed Juan Rivera, to help out against LHP. Alex showed us that Andre becomes Juan Castro if the pitcher is a southpaw. Only one home run all of last year. James only hit two. Heck in 2009 Juan Rivera hit 12 home runs against LHP.

Duck: Yes, Juan Rivera was quite a player in 2009.

Duck: You lost Jamey Carroll to the Twins but you quickly made up for it by signing three infielders, Mark Ellis, Adam Kennedy, and Jerry Hairston. It was quite a coup to take such highly sought after infielders off the market so quickly.

Ned: Yes, we were very pleased to sign all of them. Mark Ellis was the target because of the research Alex Tamin did related to our infield defense. Back in 2010 Mark Ellis was great and we expect him to be just as good again at 35 as he was at age 33. He was healthy enough to play 132 games last year so we think the health issues that have plagued him his whole career are a thing of the past. Kennedy is left handed infielder who can play anywhere but SS, so we got Jerry Hairston to handle that in case Dee Gordon runs into any injuries or adjustment problems.Plus Hairston can play anywhere. This might be the best bench I've ever assembled.

Duck: You spent a good amount of loose change on these guys, does this mean you have no faith in Sellers or DeJesus?

Ned: Sellers impressed us with his tatoo's last year. Who's the other guy?

Duck: Ivan DeJesus Junior!

Ned: Who

Duck: Nevermind, was Mark Treanor brought into to mentor AJ Ellis?

Ned: Hell no, we simply wanted Misty May on the teams Volleyball team. We are going to kick the Padres ass this year. Other then Misty May he brings nothing to the table we care about. That catcher I got from the Red Sox, that guy is our future.

Duck: You mean FedEx?

Ned: Who, oh I get it. That is clever, think I'll use it.

Duck: When you were unable to sign Kuroda you capped off this great winter by bringing in two pitchers who were very successful in 2011 pitching in pitching parks.

Ned: Yes, have to give credit to Tamin again. He explained how we will be playing 100 games in pitching friendly parks so we didn't have to target good pitchers, simply pitchers who used to be good. Among the group of pitchers we could afford who used to be good these were the best.

Duck: Is this your favorite kind of team? Old and expensive, with most of the cost deferred until 2013, with a MVP candidate and Cy Young sprinkled in here and there to keep the fans happy about the farm system?

Ned: Yes, this might be my favorite team ever. Everyone here was either good once, or will be. None of those Miles guys this year.

Duck: How is Uribe doing this winter, have you talked to him?

Ned: Not directly, but his waitress assured me he is in great shape, and can't wait to play baseball in 2012 for the Dodgers.

Duck: I'd be remiss if I did not bring up James Loney's accident. For whatever reason he was asleep at the wheel, were you surprised?

Ned: Surprised, hell no. James has been sleepwalking at Dodger Stadium for three years until something woke him up on August 10th of this year.

Duck: Does this team need a great year from James Loney to compete for a postseason post?

Ned: Yes, any other easy questions?

Duck: Some blogs have started calling this the has been team because most of the players you signed were good several years ago and struggled in 2011. What do you say to them?

Has been
Has been
You talkin' to me?
You talkin' to me?
You callin' me, has been?
What'd you say your name is?
Jack
Never done jack
Glad to meet ya
Who's your friend?
Dick
Don't say dick
Whaddya know?
And you friend, what's your handle?
Don
Two thumbs Don

Duck: Have to say Ned, this is not the type of winter anyone was expecting but you outdid yourself. You are simply one of a kind. Have a Merry Christmas, and do you have anything to say to the fans?

Ned: Yes, if you are going to have Duck for your Christmas Dinner, make sure you use a cherry sauce.

QUACK QUACK

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by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

Any post with a quote of a William Shatner song is a good post.

by fbihop on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

We say sabotahge, Ned says sabotadge.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

i wonder if someone in the organization ever tells Ned wtffff were you thinking ?!

by L.A.JOSHER on Dec 9, 2011 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

Funny stuff, Phil

The Duck is never afraid to ask the tough questions.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

I was gonna call this one out for props, too.

I will add that round is a great shape.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I wish that was my joke, but it’s Raising Arizona.

“Do these balloons blow up into funny shapes?”

“Not unless round is funny.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do the store clerks get the best lines in Coen Brother movies?

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Or the old “He has the body of a god — Buddha.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

So yeah, I'm the T-Mobile girl's biggest fan
FoulkesCarly
I’ve realized its damn near impossible to not quote all of dumb and dumber while staying in a ski village.

And here’s another reason why.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2011 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

Algebra question

If an X rated movie is good, does that mean one with a XXX rating is three times greater?

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

No, that means it is X times better.

by fbihop on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

x^x?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

(Malcolm) X was a pretty good movie. xXx was dreadful.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

American History X was good too.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed the first nine American History movies.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll get you yet, Humma Kavula.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sick
CHConfidential
Willie Mays posted a 6.5 WAR in 1971, the highest single-season WAR by a position player age 40 or older #ThinkBaseball

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Eric Burdon’s WAR dropped off when he got older too.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

4.5 oWAR though. He was a pretty crappy fielder even before he was old.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ruby's elbow is a jerk

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

From the Dotel article about breaking the record for most MLB teams
What’s strange about Dotel’s career: Except for his rookie season with the Mets and a few small sample sizes elsewhere, he’s been good

Oh, to be reduced to the phrase “small sample size.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

He was effective for the Dodgers, just not needed.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you saying I projected my negative feelings onto my retinas and saw something that wasn’t there?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

No. That could never happen.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no, he was bad for the dodgers

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

well his era didn't suck

his periphs sure did

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by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No, he wasn't

3.38 ERA 1.179 WHIP 10.1 K/9. This is not bad.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

1.4 hr/9, 5.3 BB/9

thats not good

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a huge amount of space between good and suck.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I said bad

not suck. he had a 186 babip against, thats insanely lucky(although not that insane since it was only 18 innings).

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

My work here is done

Now, a new question: Should Jason Phillips have started at first base instead of Hee Seop Choi?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Was it more that he had a couple of terrible outings for LA that exacerbated our feelings on the trade?

I seem to recall that being more the case than that he was bad the rest of the time.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK

WAS THE PITCHER THAT WE ACQUIRED IN THAT SHITTY TRADE SHITTY OR NOT SHITTY SOMEBODY TELL ME BEFORE I BREAK MY CAPS LOCK

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Less about Dotel and more about J-Mac.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It breaks once every 9.29 stupid signings by the Dodgers.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So, about once a week during the offseason?

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

E-Jax says: You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

similar colors

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Did they photoshop his beard?

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I will be wearing my Pujols Angels jersey shortly.

by Xeifrank on Dec 9, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Have a great time tonight

Have a drink for me while I’m writing a paper!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 9, 2011 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

you can't write your paper drunk while munching on some wings?!

some college student you are

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i'll be on a boat

in about an hour. until sunday night. with 35 11th graders.

gonna be… interesting

by mintxcore on Dec 9, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

acquisition of the offseason

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 9, 2011 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

fellow 49ers always welcome

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 9, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Do her mountains hop?

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Play her for me.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Fangraphs article

on how the Rubby injury cost the Dodgers millions

Night all.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM PST reply actions  

whoops

Right link

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

When scouting "Rubby" in person, his fastball was literally the best I’ve ever had the opportunity to see. What left me in awe was not the fact he was the first pitcher to ever touch 97, 98 and 99 MPH on my radar gun in the same outing, but that he was able to throw 96 MPH with some semblance of command, late drop and fade.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Elbert’s no slouch either.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

He is closing the following day.

by Grimjack on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

De La Rosa’s 0.6 WAR over 60 innings matched Harang’s total in 170 2/3

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

woof

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ready for this

If Scott Podsednik wins the World Series MVP, he receives an additional $25k from the Phillies (as per his minor league contract).

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

The world is not ready for that.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm beginning to doubt your existence

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Science has not given us the technology to fake me yet.

Yet.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It reminds me of the end of Goodfellas when Henry Hill is trying to explain what climate he’d like to live in even though he has no leverage.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The world will never be ready for that

by lnickerson88 on Dec 9, 2011 7:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That would hardly pay for the Dr. Scholl’s.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 9, 2011 3:44 PM PST reply actions  

Jon_Heyman
a’s expected to get parker and cowgill in deal being discussed for cahill with #dbacks. az trying to build off great 2011

Shit, I think Parker is an upgrade right now over Cahill.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

Slusser on Twitter via rotoworld
According to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Diamondbacks have acquired right-hander Trevor Cahill and left-hander Craig Breslow from the Athletics.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

What do y'all think of that trade?

I guess the DBacks really like Trevor Cahill.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 9, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a little younger than Parker

and he has a not so bad contract with team options up to 2017.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Honest question

Is he more valuable because of the contract?

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't know

if 2010 was the exception for Cahill than probably not.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Parker’s stuff is way better. And in Oakland, he’ll be great.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that's what I think too. I'm kind of a fan of this trade.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 9, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

dodgers win!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Parker was really unimpressive in 2011.

Works out for both teams. The contending D’Backs get a low upside, low risk guy and the A’s get a guy that they can gamble on. There’s a chance Parker kicks a ton of ass next year and we love it but it’s more likely that we won’t hear much from him.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 9, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Would now be a bad time to bring up Billingsley’s ERA+ last year?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Its amusing to see Angels fans who know hate Lackey

bemused at how Cardinals fans could be upset at Pujols.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

You’re a Lackey hater right?

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

not really

He did good for the Angels, and went and got paid. angels where right ot let him go, but I have no ill feelings about it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

So it looks like my best bet for spring training will be March 19-21st. Has anyone been to Goodyear Stadium (Indians)?

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 9, 2011 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

goddamn

“Following Greg (Oden)‘s most recent physical examination and evaluation, we’ve determined that he has suffered a setback,” said Trail Blazers President Larry Miller. “We’re hopeful, but less confident that he will return to the court this season. We’ve stood by Greg from the day he was drafted and we continue to do so now with this agreement.”

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

wow

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

they said he was good to go like 2 days ago

dude probably walked into an end table or something and his legs exploded..

either than or he truly is a 50 year old man going incognito

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 9, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The Valenzuela paradigm

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 9, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

lemon law should come into play here

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Good one Phil.

Jim Loney
aka
Rip Van Winkle

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 9, 2011 4:55 PM PST reply actions  

If Kuroda signed with the Giants..

would that make this off-season the worst ever for the Dodgers?

by Joey Joe on Dec 9, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

no

but that would really suck

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Signed the best player in the NL to an extension through his prime years. Can’t be the worst offseason ever for the Dodgers.

by fbihop on Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

yay us!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if we'll still get Murphy

sounds like a long shot

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

or at least a dropkick

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 9, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s not funny. at all.

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 9, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. But we weren’t gonna say anything.

I mean, because Phil is off at the Big Wangs thing.

by fbihop on Dec 9, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

nah

he is stranded on the side of a road somewhere. Is HJ making the voyage?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I can – I might stop by and wave

Got home at 10PM last night, leave at 6 tomorrow AM, if I don’t eat dinner with the Mrs tonight I might be S.O.L

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 9, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

would be funny (not haha, but interesting)

if Ned is waiting out the market, to pounce on Beltran.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 5:35 PM PST reply actions  

OR IS HE

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by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

OR FIELDER!

Hahahahaha!

{mumbles quietly to self in corner}

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 9, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

well duh

i’m spitballing……..and drinking

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

iPhone app is there. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

but then I would have to hate myself

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

have you met my friend Al?

Al Cohol?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking if our mutual friend

I am at Big Wangs in Hollywood.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2011 5:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

leave now, arrive in 2 hours, hate self:Wait two hours, drive for 1, arrive in 3 hours, like self more.

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

more like wait 30 minutes until the 4 accidents on the 405 in the 3 miles stretch starting exactly where I get on clear up, save an hour, like self more. Seriously socal drivers, go fuck yourselves

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by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

plus I get to work while I wait!

yay me!

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by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i hear ya

dave young is stuck in traffic, so we won’t get there until 7:30 or so either

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i give up

YOU WIN THIS ONE 5 FREEWAY.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

omw

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by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Prime 9 best relief season

9. Willie Hernandez 1984
8. Trevor Hoffman 1998

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

7. Mark Eichron 1986

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

6. Mariano Rivera 1996

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

wonder where they put Lidge going 44 for 44

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

5. Goose Gossage 1975

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

4. Bruce Sutter 1977

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

3. John Hiller 1973

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

84 inherited runners

13 scored

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

we know who wins this amirite

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

2. Eric Gagne 2003

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

HE WAS ROBBED

rabble rabble rabble!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

1 is eckersley maybe?

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by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

1. Dennis Eckersley 1990

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

ballsy

I would have given it to him for the year he won the friggin cy young

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

although 1990 I guess was better

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Gagne struck out 64 more dudes than Eckersley did. Was robbed.

Then again Eck walking three guys unintentionally is pretty amazing.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 9, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

0.614 Base runners/9

0.61 ERA

48 saves

only walked 4 that year

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hoffman's HR/9 that year was .25

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 9, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

and

his K/9 was somewhere in the 10s

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t think he had the 96 anymore then…..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

did he?

i hardly remember

they were going on about his change up on the show

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess his injury in 94 is what did him in

so he developed a changeup

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't realize Dee was that close to Dana Eveland
@skinnyswag9 Dee Gordon
Just lost a friend…(not in a bad way) Shrugs

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 9, 2011 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

Much more likely it’s Loney….the “shrugs” part isn’t something you’d say if your friend got traded.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 9, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe it's just some dude he knows

and got in a fight with

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT YOU, TAYLOR

when are you home?

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Tomorrow.

Where do you live, btw? Aren’t you in redondo?

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 9, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

alright, i thought you lived in redondo for some reason, because i’m going to be spending a few days in torrance with my girlfriend’s family and so that might have been more convenient.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 9, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I moved to Sherman Oaks with Maddz on Oct 1, used to live in Redondo

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, do you have an extra pair of cleats?

And what size, if you do?

I can’t fly with mine

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 9, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

check your bag, son!

I wear size 16s

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Only have 1 bag anyway

It’s carry on size, it’s already full of clothes, and i don’t wanna pay $25.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 9, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll loan you a pair of cleats for $26 :)

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I have an extra pair of cleats you can use

by G.Scott on Dec 9, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a size 15, but that doesn’t appear to help you.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm assuming it's not really a teammate at all.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 9, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Friggin' Pujols

and i’m only 7 miles north of angel stadium
right now

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 9, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That list sucks. Half are bimbos.

Juliette Binoche not on the list.

Fail.

by Freddy V on Dec 9, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Any list that ranks Paris Hilton more sexy than both Sophia Loren and Brigitte Bardot is really only suitable for use as toilet paper.

by The Dude Abides on Dec 9, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Madonna may not be that hot, but she has sex appeal like nobody’s business.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Madonna circa the Blonde Ambition Tour was hot sicka than yo’ average!

by ishXdavid on Dec 9, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I feel like I am still fighting the same fights I fought in high school.

37 goddam years old, still waiting to fuckin grow up.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

It really never changes. Take my word for it.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 9, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Clink, man.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Gift

Exchange, no sign of Ivdown

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2011 9:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Figured out I was too broke at the moment to show up

and I didn’t want to come without a gift. The plan fell apart when I went out to nice dinners twice this week, lol.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Your

Presence would have been good enough and we would have bought you birthday drinks.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2011 9:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Aw that's great of you guys

But no one wants to buy those blue drinks ;)

Hopefully there’s another event pretty soon, this one just didn’t quite work out for me.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Tot shabbat was that brutal, huh?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a parent conference today for my six year-old son. I felt like a grown up.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

Let the Right One In was really good.

by kinbote on Dec 9, 2011 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

Loney

What happened is unsettling to me because it’s quite unresolved. I think some are assuming he’s our 1st baseman, but I wonder if it’s just all going to go smoothly from now through the entire season. I hope we’re not looking at a Milton Bradley type situation.

On the other hand if James has some kind of neurological condition that’s being successfully treated I imagine he and the Dodgers have the right to keep it private.

by Freddy V on Dec 9, 2011 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

since he’s never done anything like this, I’m not too worried. Whatever the issue is, I just hope it gets resolved.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

neurological condition really seems like a possibility.

by Xeifrank on Dec 10, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Could totally see that in Loney

Not that he screams raving lunatic or anything, just that something might be not quite right about him. Of course, the way the incident is described, its entirely possible he also suffered a concussion and nobody bothered to really check.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

i must admit

the reality of Pujols signing with the Angels is settling in, and it sucks……

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

If Kemp continues on the way he did last year, I think he’s possibly the better player the next 10 years.
It would appear though the Angels have more good pieces to surround their centerpiece, at least for 2012.

I wouldn’t worry. We’ll get there eventually.

by Freddy V on Dec 9, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny, I just realized I repeated your “not too worried” about a different issue. Ha.

by Freddy V on Dec 9, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

/clink!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Hakuna Matata

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 9, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

what a wonderful phrase

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the Angels might win the season series? They’ve been doing that without Pujols

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

no Josie

becuase Pujols is awesome, in California, and not a Dodger

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

LONEY SPEAKS!!!!

ESPN article

“I decided to personally make a statement because nothing is more important to me than young fans, and I want them to hear this directly from me,‘’ Loney said in an exclusive telephone interview with ESPNLosAngeles.com. "I would never do anything to jeopardize my career. I have been working really hard to help this team next year, and I am looking forward to a great season.’’
Loney also said he was tested for several drugs at the hospital — he read over the phone a long list from a document he was given when he left the hospital later that night that included cocaine, marijuana, alcohol, barbiturates, amphetamines and opiates — and that those tests all came back negative.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 PM PST reply actions  

Way to get to the bottom of the story, Tony.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope he’s had a medical exam to see what might have caused a blackout.

by Freddy V on Dec 10, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m really excited to see if Loney will finally break out this year.

by dodgerpreacher on Dec 10, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

no, I’m not. He’s just going to be Loney again.

by dodgerpreacher on Dec 10, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s JIM Loney to you!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Conflicting reports on the tests

TMZ & Loney say the tests came back negative, but it was reported elsewhere that they were still awaiting the test results. I believe Loney, for now.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

If the elsewhere report were True TMZ would be all over it so I’m glad they are saying the same thing as Loney.

by jrock247 on Dec 10, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, since TMZ would tend to feed off of a positive drug test!

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

There can be more than one set of tests!

The blood taken by law enforcement, and the blood taken at the hospital. The hospital had to take blood tests to treat him – SOP.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 11, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guarantee the hospital alone took several samples.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

that does make sense

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact that medical personnel took him from the cops tells me it was a medical condition, not DUI.

by Freddy V on Dec 11, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He was in an auto accident on the freeway. I imagine he was taken because they couldn’t rule out head trauma on the scene.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 11, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned interview

link

Besides the usual stuff, he spelled out the bench: Sands or Rivera depending on the day, Kennedy, Ellis or Treanor, Hairston, and perhaps Tony Gwynn.

Sounds to me like Sands is a rock solid bet to start a lot for us. And the Gwynn part is interesting…not exactly a ringing endorsement.

by silverwidow on Dec 10, 2011 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

With Sands AND Rivera AND Hairston

Gwynn would make 6 outfielders. Nah, i’m good.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

backup CFer

would be? Hairston?? That is scary. I know Kemp never takes a day off, but what if….

by Xeifrank on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

We’ve always got Jamie Hoffmann at AAA…oh, wait…

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Silverio

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Team desperate for anything to surround core considering DFAing one of it’s better players.

That’s our Ned.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Alex Tamin presented Ned with the punchcard that said Gwynn isn’t a good player in spacious NL West parks. Where good defense is needed. With flyball pitchers.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

With Rivera, Sands, Kemp, Ethier, and Hairston….it’s a wash. Saying we should keep him and that Ned is an idiot is just hating him randomly. Signing Rivera in the first place, yeah, idiot. But still. Gwynn’s no big deal

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

You can have guys that can’t hit and can’t play defense or a guy that really can’t hit and can play defense. Gwynn is the third best outfielder on the team and tossing him away for nothing when you can just stash Sands in AAA for a month is just a waste.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think it is a choice between Gwynn and Sands though. It is a choice between Gwynn and some yet-to-be signed LH OF, which again is still stupid. TGJ fits his role about as good as you could expect out of any 4th OF type.

by OB12 on Dec 10, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Why switch out Gwynn for Hairston? Just because he can play the infield AND he’s 35?

by Freddy V on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Ned regarding Pujols

“For that purpose, it’s really a plus. I’d rather have him where he’s at than in any of the National League divisions.”

Right on Ned, because as long as you’re the GM it’s unlikely we’ll ever have to face him in a World Series.

by Freddy V on Dec 10, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope he's implying

that Ethier or Loney are being sat against LHP instead of Sands and Rivera splitting time, because thats a thoroughly pointless platoon if so.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

We're a loser

Steve Henson of Yahoo with his winter meeting winners & losers

Here’s the Dodger excerpt:

Los Angeles Dodgers: GM Ned Colletti hasn’t been idle during his team’s offseason of ownership uncertainty. Before the meetings he re-signed outfielder Juan Rivera and signed infielders Mark Ellis and Adam Kennedy, backup catcher Matt Treanor and starter Chris Capuano. And at the meetings he added starter Aaron Harang and super utility player Jerry Hairston Jr., and traded pitcher Dana Eveland to the Orioles for two minor leaguers.

It was the equivalent of a shopping spree at a flea market. Colletti spent about $43 million but never addressed the Dodgers’ biggest need: a middle-of-the-order hitter to complement Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier. Without it, the Dodgers again will struggle to score runs, and a rotation of Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, Ted Lilly, Capuano and Harang isn’t good enough to win low-scoring games all season.

And on Thursday it was made public that first baseman James Loney was arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence after his Maserati hit three cars on the freeway Nov. 14. Loney appeared to be intoxicated. He passed out after stopping his car in the fast lane and, when awakened by other drivers, attempted to flee the scene.

No one was injured, and the joke will be that the cars hit are lucky Loney doesn’t have any power. Loney hits 10 to 15 home runs a season, below average for a first baseman, yet he will likely get a raise to more than $6 million through arbitration.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 8:40 AM PST reply actions  

Good to see y'all last night

much-needed break from school. :)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

School is overrated

what you need is a vacation. A vacation to Pleasure Island.

by Xeifrank on Dec 10, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

What happened to the 11th-graders?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

we left just before 11

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

UCLA hires Jim Mora, Jr.

link

Should my reaction be stronger than, “meh”?

by BKnapp on Dec 10, 2011 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

UCLA tries to replicate the Carroll magic by bringing a bad NFL coach to town.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

West to Celts
WojYahooNBA:
As @Daldridgetnt reports, David West close w/ Celtics. Y! Sources say sides working on a sign-and-trade for a 3-year, $27-29M deal. [via Twitter]

Apparently Jermaine O’Neal is still alive and will go to NO with another stiff.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

He also repots the revised Paul trade has been submitted to the NBA for approval. Details unknown, but Rockets still sending out same package, so changes will come between Lakers and Hornets.

by uschris0304 on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

All I know is Lakers better not be sending anymore out, fuck that… Unless its a draft pick, then whatever.

by uschris0304 on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably will be a future pick

They have no young players except their picks this year and Ebanks and Caracter

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully, if they add a pick, it’s because they’re taking a big (and his salary) back as well.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Because Garret Anderson and Marcus Thames worked out so well

Ned needs his head examined. Better, I think he missed his calling- used car salesman.

What is his plan? He doesn’t have one. Just blows with the wind.

by Freddy V on Dec 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn kids! :) j/k, you’ve been around enough to know.
Anderson wasn’t that much of a gamble-cheap price-was still pretty good the year before. It just didn’t work out.
Thames I wasn’t so sure about, and it didn’t work out either, but if either one of those had worked, it would have been a different season.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Matsui is a great candidate for late inning pinch hitting.
I’d be fine with him for that role.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be fine with another player who could both hit and field, and was sort of, you know, not over the hill.

by Freddy V on Dec 10, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

not if Gwynn is released

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Gwynn is nothing resembling a difference-maker. If he ends up moving on, it will be okay.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

okay

3rd best outfielder on the team right now, I don’t want to go into it again but he is

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

No argument here.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Even if that were an accurate statement, the difference between him and the sixth-best outfielder is not significant.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You can disagree, I’m not willing to argue that right now. But if they enter the season with Oeltjen (or Fringe Guy X) on the roster instead of Thynn, it will not be a big deal.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

He hits righties better than both Sands and Rivera and his defense is lightyears better than both.

Hes the lefthanded answer to a LF platoon.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I want to see TGJr batting 450 times as the LH half of a platoon.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 11, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He was roughly as productive as Ethier and Loney last year. Gwynn’s not gonna be the difference between a good and a bad team but it sucks when the team cries poverty then throws away cheap, useful players.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

To Ned’s credit Matsui did slightly out hit Tony Gywnn last year.

We’re only 13 years removed from that being a good thing.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Matsui is ready to become a full time pinch hitter?

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he sure is hell ain’t fielding anything.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Vladimir Shpunt
Alex Tamin
Jim Loney

Coincidence?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

I have no idea what the connections are. Is Loney a mentalist? is Tamin a seer?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think people are vastly overstating Alex Tamin’s role with the team. The moves Ned has made are the same moves Ned has always made. The buck stops with him, so he makes the calls. Tamin may be consulted, but he’s not the Jonah Hill to Ned’s certainly-not-Brad Pitt.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

But, if we are going to blame Tamin, we need to call him Idiot Tamin.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering everything that’s been credited to “Alex Tamin” is something you can do in two seconds on B-Ref, it’s safe to say he doesn’t actually exist.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure he dots i’s and crosses t’s on contracts. Someone always has to do that, but they aren’t really baseball people.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex Tamin is an anagram for Menial Tax.

Frank McCourt paid zero taxes last year.

Need any more proof?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I brought that up a few days ago. Also, Anti Lame X so he should oppose bad signings and Ex Tail Man so he doesn’t chase skirts anymore.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Cardinals sign Furcal

2 yrs/14 mils

jcrasnick
Rafael Furcal has reached agreement with #Cardinals on 2-year deal pending a physical this week, source says

by silverwidow on Dec 10, 2011 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

I’d definitely rather have Ellis’ deal than that one. Cardinals be gettin’ desperate!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the point of a physical? He played for them last, and you know he’ll get injured sometime this season, anyway….

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Pujols contract

is it a bad deal because its a 10 year deal or is it bad because the Angels signed it?

From I gather on MLBN and the interwebz, its seems to be both.

Would people be complaining if he signed that contract with STL, I think Anaheim was the best spot because of the DH and who cares about 40 million dollars in 2020? Inflation is a bitch

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

St. Louis would have been paying the extra money as a sort of icon premium, which nobody knows how to quantify. The Yankees ridiculously overpaid #2 for his baseball skill on two separate occasions, but everyone is ok with that too.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

well if you think about it Pujols has been massively UNDERpaid for his previous years in the league

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He could have blown out his knee or had Beelzebub come collecting on their deal early in 2004 and it would have been a dreadful deal for St. Louis. They took a big gamble and it paid off for them. They don’t owe him any more money than they agreed to pay him in the previous contract.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Then he doesn’t owe them anything either

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed he does not, and St. Louis’ people agree 100%.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think everyone expects the Yankees to have those stupid contracts at 19 of 25 spots on the roster nowadays. Maybe people think Moreno doesn;t have the money, which isn’t the case

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

They ALL (except Frank) have the money. Most of them don’t want to spend it, because is it doesn’t necessarily help them make money.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Pujols will cause me to buy some tickets to some Angel games, looks like for a long time too.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

please make this happen

and make his knees hold up

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It's problamatic

Furcal
Ellis
Now this guy too?

We need back up, because we know they will go to the DL at some point in the season.
It’s kinda like turning the crank on the Jack in the Box, wondering when the top is gonna pop open.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

his grand plan could work

but unfortunately none of their acquisitions can hit like this guy, good OBP guy who is versatile, cheap and young

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like colletti and mattingly want to platoon everyone

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Murphy/Rivera platoon could work. Or they could play him at first and ditch Loney.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Dec 10, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

another interesting article

Jackie Robinson movie will star Harrison Ford as Branch Rickey and Chadwick Boseman as Jackie

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, quite a brawl during Cincinnati-Xavier hoops game. Gonna be a lot suspensions.

Pretty shameful behavior there.

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by underdog on Dec 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

How/Why is MLB reinstating Manny?

Did his suspension time count while he was “retired”?

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

If not team signed Barry Bonds, I can’t see a team signing Manny. So it is probably a moot point.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I would agree with this if 2 teams didn’t actively pursue him after he got suspended the first time

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not even sure this is all about him playing in MLB. I think this is his way of trying to get clearance to play in the Dominican League. He wasn’t allowed to play there last year due to his suspension from MLB.

by VegasBlues on Dec 10, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny = Shoeless Joe

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He is being reinstated after his retirement. He is now free to sign with a team and once that happens he will then start serving his 50 game suspension. He couldn’t serve his suspension while retired so they had to reinstate him first.

by VegasBlues on Dec 10, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh i thought they were reinstating him from his suspension.
That makes sense.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If he had never “retired” could he have taken that suspension even if he wasnt signed by any teams

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m not really against mlb knocking the suspension down, he still basically had to serve his time and more.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

They cut his suspension time down to 50 games

mostly because he missed so much time, even though technically it doesn’t count against the suspension. But he still needs to serve the first 50 games.

Odds are good he doesn’t get signed either way.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

2012 ZIPS are up, nothing really unexpected. Kenley’s projection is pretty boss at least.

Dodgers will finish somewhere between 75 and 83 wins and remain unsure as to why.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

Only three guys projected to have an OPS+ of over 100.

Kemp, Ethier and Loney (barely).

And got to like that Kemp’s number one comp is… Duke Snider.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Kemp's extrapolated career stats are pretty awesome

Though I’d hope his slugging and OBP will end up higher.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Also for Kershaw's

If he ends with 2800 plus ks and a 2.84 ERA, would it matter that he only has 205 wins for his HOF case? I suppose he would need some Pedro esque seasons or Schilling post season success to be able to make it.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless he does that in like 13-14 years

then yea it would matter a lot. Given how young he started and assuming his arm doesn’t self-destruct at 29 or something then 2800 would be a massive underachievement for him.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

A few things I see, I think Billingsley and Ethier will do better by a good margin over what they have here for them. I think the bullpen will have more above average guys in it then just 2 of them.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

Juan Castro never dies

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

They really like Scott Van Slyke’s bat…at least compared to some of the regulars in the majors

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

94 OPS+ for a bad defensive corner outfielder really isn’t that good.

Then again Juan Rivera.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Songco and him are basically the same

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s about the same as Jerry Sands too

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

They have Dee hitting a home run!

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It will be an inside the park home run.

by jrock247 on Dec 10, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Dee will get a couple in ARI/COL next season

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Iff Dee does get 631 abs, I think he steals way more than 55 bases

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If he gets on base enough, yeah

If he slumps, I think they just let him stay on the roster and bat him 8th

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Singles that he turns into doubles unfortunately won’t help with his stolen base totals.

by jrock247 on Dec 10, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if he gets 19 CS. I hope Lopes teaches him the ropes like he did for Kemp.

I could see Dee leading the league in steals for years to come if he can learn from Lopes as well as Kemp did.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

55 for 74 is fine with me, its about 75 percent

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

I think he gets closer to 70

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sands with 19 homers would be a nice surprise.

by eitherethier on Dec 10, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He'll never get the chance

if he puts up that triple slash line.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you really think, Keith Law?

Dodger Fans (LA)
Why us?

Klaw (11:16 AM)
The fact that the franchise that broke the color bar has been stuck with McCourt and McNeddy is strong evidence against the existence of karma.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/41641/mlb-insider-keith-law

by The Dude Abides on Dec 10, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

it hasn't been that bad

Law is an ass. What does he say about the Mets then?

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t say much about the Mets. And I hate Ned almost as much as I hate Frank. To me, those two go hand-in-hand.

by The Dude Abides on Dec 10, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

just saying that the Dodgers have been far from an embarrassment

2 NLCS appearances, Kershaw, Kemp, Ethier

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The last year has been pretty embarrassing, though.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

the first half, no doubt

on and off the field

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The last two years have been. Ned gets credit for Ethier, Saito, and Kuroda, and for not trading our young major league stars for crap. I don’t give McCourt credit for anything.

by The Dude Abides on Dec 10, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but that’s not what I’m arguing

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

1988

The baseball gods have been collecting ever since

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

There is talk about Jayson Werth playing CF if Harper is rushed up.

That, frankly, would be hilarious.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Werth can play CF.
He did it in LA. He’s a very good OF’er.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a good OF, it will make that contract look a tad bit better

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Any of you guys have experience with Servpro?

Turns out that we had a major leak under our house. The hot water line going to the shower. All of the soil underneath the house is mud. And I mean MUD.

The drip has stopped (capped the offending line) and we now have a fan at the entrance to our crawlspace. I hope that dries it out, but I’m worried about two things:

1. It might not dry it as well as it needs to dry and we will need a dehumidifier. I mean it is mud down there.
2. Whatever damage the leak caused. Because it was hot water the steam has made one closet right above the leak very mildewy That will all have to be checked out.

Servpro (from the Dodger ads! “Like it never even happened!”) has a handful of good reviews out there. Anybody have any experience with this or any company they particularly like?

Thanks all.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

my buddy worked at one, they do a good job and they get super overworked

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

lots of pipes burst here during the winter, they usually work 72 hour shifts and are on call.

if call them, make sure they don’t start knocking down dry wall, they do like that

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks.

Trouble is that dry wall may (or may not) need to get knocked down. You know, the moisture/steam damage up into the closet. I have no way of judging that myself.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way, the thought is to leave the fan going until Monday and then see where we are. If it’s significantly drier down there on Monday morning, that is a sign that it’s working OK and we’ll continue. If it’s still mud, I’ll call them.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Your biggest enemy is mold, you might wanna call someone just to make sure there isn’t any

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I’m putting this question here… is there any rush in calling Servpro, or can/should it wait until Monday when I know how well the fan is working to dry things out?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If there is no more leaking, you should be ok until monday. The damage has already been done. But, I would call them sooner or later.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that is the plan. On Monday, I’ll see how the fan is doing, call them if need them to dry; if not, I’ll wait until everything really is dry (and the plumber has a chance to fix the hot water line, which right now is just capped), THEN call in Servpro to inspect for mold and fix anything that needs fixing.

Thanks again to everybody for the advice. I especially appreciate BKnapp’s advice on how I might do this myself, but this is something I’m gonna bring in someone to do. I am not what you call handy. This is why I have savings and/or insurance.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The fan is a good start but is it possible to have more than one running? If you can have one pulling air into the house at one end and the other fan pushing air out of the house that would speed up the drying process.

The best stuff I’ve ever used to get rid of mold/mildew is called Moldex, and you can order it from: HDsupply
Read the label though, and watch out, because Moldex is very powerful. It is not pleasant to inhale so you’d obviously want to keep your kids away from it too.

FYI, I work for my family in apartment management so I have quite a bit of experience with leaks and mold/mildew.

by BKnapp on Dec 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

As soon as drywall gets wet, it is useless for anything except growing mold. Mold is not good. Make sure they inspect for mold after they get it cleaned up.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

My buddy wore full biohazard gear quite a few times

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully you can find somebody good

Err on the side of caution and replace anything that even hints at mold. Also see if your homeowners policy will cover some of the cost.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 10, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Humma's Laws

i’d watch it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Two and a half Hummas

But that could be a porn title too.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 10, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way, iiidown, I love this idea, and I’m gonna pitch it to Amy Pascal on Monday, unless I’m at home with Servpro, in which case I’ll pitch it on Tuesday.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

quick google search

Is she with Sony Studios?

Just to let you know, i’d absolutely watch this show, lol.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Our insurance company brought them in after lightning hit our house. I can’t say enough good things about the work they did, cleaning, wiring, painting, rebuilding the fireplace.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 10, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there UFC tonight?

if so, who should I root for

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 3:44 PM PST reply actions  

The big sweaty one.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

there is

Main event will be fun. Jon Jones(champ) vs. Lyoto Machida

Nogueria bros. fighting too.

Big Nog vs. Frank Mir

Little Nog vs. Tito Ortiz

potential for some good fights.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

but who are the good guys?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Machida and the Noguieras are the cool picks.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

But Jones will destroy Machida.

Apparently I’m the only one who likes Jones anymore.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

go underdogs!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

One Noguiera is an underdog, but the other is a pretty big favorite.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

i love Jones

but I’d like to see someone really take it to him. He’s had it too easy.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m holding out hope for Dan Henderson to knock him out.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s cocky but not in a fun way.

Also a snitch.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

whoever you want them to be

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If this event on Fox, all you will see is 40 seconds of action and 50 minutes of back stories nobody will care to see.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m rooting for the bleeders

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Machida/Jones is either gonna be awesome or really terrible with little in between.

If you want to watch some stuff for free there’s four fights on ION starting now.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get why these fights are not on FOX if you’re trying to build up UFC

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

“Hey Fox want two hours of fights with people no one has ever heard of?”

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a Sat night. FOX is showing nothing other than old I Love Lucy and COPS reruns. FOX has nothing to lose.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Costs significantly more and has the danger of hurting the brand if undercarders put on bad fights.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Versus the 40 seconds of action we did see?

Saying undercard fights hurt the brand is like saying the NFL shouldn’t show the odd Chiefs-Seahawks game because we know its going to suck.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That was at least meaningful and built up JDS name recognition which can help sell PPV.

Right now there’s two guys who will probably never make a PPV card having a mildly violent staring contest. No upside there.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Everything the UFC does is to get people to buy their PPVs. That is their business model.

No surprise that the next UFC on Fox is a week before one of their big PPV dates (the Saturday night before the Super bowl).

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Fox deal doesn’t start until next year. The Velasquez-Dos Santos fight was basically a preview.

Anyway, Fox will get four cards a year (the first one is on January 28 with Rashad Evans and Phil Davis headlining).

Once the Fox deal kicks in, the preliminary fights will be on Fuel TV followed by a couple of fights on FX then the main card either on Fox or on pay-per-view.

/UFC nerd

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

tripn'd

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The only projection that really stands out to me is how terrible they think Josh Wall is.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hideki Matsui, yay or nay?

At least you know he has good porn.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Don't see the point

he’s basically Juan Rivera at this point, and we already have the real Juan Rivera.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Matsui hits from the other box

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Matsui still is famous. He’ll bring a horde of Japanese media to every home game.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

1: Sign Matsui
2: Charge outrageous prices for Japanese media credentials
3: ???
4: Profit

Brilliant!

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Or sell Jerseys to Matsui fans, or do cross promotion with the large Japanese community in L.A. Stuff like that.

The only people who care to see Juan Rivera play are Juan’s family.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume that Matsui would be more expensive than Rivera, right?

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably. He got $7.5 million last year. But I would still rather see Matsui over Rivera, because I can at least hope that Matsui has one more good year left in him.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Braun????

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

What about him?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

according to twitter

news is about to break that he tested positive for PEDS

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Give it to Kemp!!!!!!!!

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously how gay

they knew of this positive teest before votes were casted too…. MVP could have been kemps if this broke out when it should have…

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Because we all know gay = bad, right!!?!?!

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah that was not cool, not to pile on.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

political correctness is gay

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really think this falls under the category of political correctness

by court168627 on Dec 10, 2011 5:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

And Braun was tested in the playoffs, after the MVP votes were cast

by court168627 on Dec 10, 2011 5:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

o nevermind

not gay anymore…

does still hurt that kemp didnt get it tho..

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the league could have stepped in regardless

It makes me feel like maybe the award wouldn’t have meant as much to Kemp that way, but Kemp still should have won it anyway, so i’m not sure.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not a MLB award, its an BWAAW award.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, the BWAAW then

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

They wouldn’t have known until it was public.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not about political correctness you jackass.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

People always confuse

political correctness with reasonable behavior. It’s not PC to say don’t use gay as a pejorative, it’s only reasonable behavior.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 10, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you also not say ‘retarded’ or other similar terms? I’m not being sarcastic, just curious.

by Jesse S. on Dec 10, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

One of our members said it (retarded) offended him so I think there’s been an effort not to use it.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a horrible term

by keithc13 on Dec 10, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

why are you so concerned with having an arsenal of derogatory terms?

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

stand down, i think he’s just wondering

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes he feels he wants to
(beat beat)
run away

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I am just wondering how you describe something that you do not appreciate. It seems most of the terms these days could be offensive to anyone (e.g., retard, gay, slow, etc.).

by Jesse S. on Dec 10, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What's wrong

with “I don’t like that, because xxxxx”?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 10, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s how I usually respond when I’m not all worked up about something. But in the heat of the moment, sometimes I don’t have the presence of mind to form logically explain myself.

by Jesse S. on Dec 10, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

See that doesn’t work either. I, for example, cringe inside every time I hear a swear word, especially the Lord’s name in vain. But like Joey Joe said, you just gotta choose to not get offended.

by Jesse S. on Dec 10, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

psychological studies have shown that swearing can relieve pain and can actually be a form of anger management. But I will leave that there.

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad, awful, disgusting, terrible, wrong, etc.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I say, “I don’t like this because of {reason I don’t like it}” because my working vocabulary is fairly awesome.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I try not to.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 10, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You clearly know what he's saying, even if he used that phrase

Let things go sometimes.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It shouldn’t be let go because it is extremely offensive to a number of people.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

oh please

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

o please

its a phrase… get over it

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a horrible phrase that people should stop saying.

by VegasBlues on Dec 10, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

People should stop telling other people whats ok and isnt ok to say.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

it should be obvious that imply a group is lesser than is offensive

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You can say anything you want, just sounds like something an imbecile would say, or a 12 year old.

by Freddy V on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

“It isn’t OK to tell people that what they say isn’t OK to say.”

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a phrase that ignorant, immature individuals use as a derogatory term. Congratulations for being one of them.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

its not like i called someone tht

I did not use it to call someone “gay” so therefore its not derogatory to any individual…. so nobody should be offended..

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You used it in a derogatory way anyway! Just because it wasn’t at an individual doesn’t mean that it’s not offensive.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

“seriously, how Mexican is that, Matt Kemp should be MVP”

see why it’s offensive to call things gay?

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

no .... didnt make sense...

but dont worry.. maddz explained to me … thanks tho!

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope no one says something is so Irish

I don’t know what i’d do with the rest of my life if that happened.

Or that’s so American, or that’s so fat. It could really cause problems.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Or we could try and, you know, nice to one another and not use terms that people have said offend them? Being mean is easy.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So is being nice…on a message board. It takes conscious effort to type things. You can censor yourself. Why not do it if you know other people will appreciate it?

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That's good with me

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, does your brain not work? You didn’t know that by using a word that designates a group of people to mean something is “lame” or “stupid” might be insulting?

People still die over this. C’mon.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

lol nice insult

and thank you for explaining… now I understand why it is wrong….

I am using the Word gay, and comparing it to bad and stupid…… I now understand and i am sorry if i offended anyone!

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

people die over what?

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Being gay.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hate crimes against homosexuals.

by Jesse S. on Dec 10, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

no

not :(

I’d love for you to bring this to an actual TBLA event and say it to actual people.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

TAKE THINGS MORE LIGHTLY. Or everyone can just be stressed out about everything. I already let sports get me too riled up to care this much about someone using a word that people might not care for.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Why should we take ignorance and hate (which is the root behind all of these words) lightly? You’re a smart dude. Open your eyes.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I get riled up over this, not where Pujols landed and what Ned did in the past month.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I get riled up over actual games, not moves

Harder to get into offseason moves then games ;)

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not that I don’t understand why you are saying what you are, I really do. I just know not every someone would use that word that it would be said out of hate or something like that.

I believe it was you like 2 years ago who had a problem with me using that word, so I stopped on here and I don’t even really say it in general anymore.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahaha everyone who recced this is terrible.

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by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm totally shocked you'd have a problem with it

Totally.

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL. You really are a peach

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

your language is offensive

please don’t do that next time ;)

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Stop being such a pussy.

Ooops..I think I offended pussies.

by Joey Joe on Dec 11, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

calling a man effeminate, nah, no way that could offend anyone

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely not.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think “gay” means what you think it means

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

lame, uncool, homosexual, happy, girlish,…its a word that has many meanings.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

This is such BS. What, are we just going to think its cool if somebody drops the N-Word here because they obviously didn’t mean it to refer to Black people?

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

you don't get it

and neither does anyone else who thinks calling someone gay is even funny or clever. I am far from PC, but you have to know what is actually subversive and what is infantile. You are apparently incapable of discerning the difference.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

dude ur late

ur apparently incapable of knowing that i see whatt they mean nowv as stated by my post above… but ok…

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesnt make any sense.

Matthewmafia used the term as an adjective.
How would anybody mistake it for a noun?

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

do you know what adjectives do?

they modify nouns.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

and you can make the n word into an adjective. or an adverb. not hard.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Never saw the n word used an adjective.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I would listen to Maddz…….She’s a student and knows things. Things that most of us have forgotten.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And we’re talking about exact words, not making words into something else.

If you made them something else, its an entirely new word.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

FUCK!
(May be used as just about anything)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Trey and Matt nail almost everything with that simple show.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Its all the grease in his hair. Makes me go faster.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

wither Bad Penny?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Insane

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

PEDs

National League MVP Ryan Braun, who last season led the Milwaukee Brewers to their first division title in nearly three decades, has tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug and faces a 50-game suspension if the initial finding is upheld, two sources familiar with the case told “Outside the Lines.”
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Major League Baseball has not announced the positive test because Braun is disputing the result through arbitration.
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by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

if true, this REALLY pisses me off

unless Kemp tested positive too, in which case, I might as well crawl into a whole

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It mostly pisses me off — well, that’s too strong. It doesn’t piss me off. It makes me a little sad, because Braun is a great player and I want to believe.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

is it possible that the BWAA voted for him knowing this info?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

[checks voting]

No chance

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

How would they have already known?

Kemp should have gotten the award anyway.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Please dont' even say that

That would be horrible!

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Give Kemp the trophy.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 10, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base

by DodgerofTrolleys on Dec 11, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It was probably just some bad gefilte fish

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I lol’d

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Freakin...A

I just joked that Kemp should get the MVP now, which I knew wouldn’t happen. But wtf, he got the award when they already knew? That seems counterproductive by trying to discourage PEDs.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

and your proof is…?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The question mark might point you in one direction of me actually knowing if it's true or not

Also because it said this happened weeks before he won the MVP, but I didn’t know it was after the end of the season

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

No, it doesn’t point me one way or another, because the words before the question mark don’t seem to indicate any curiosity towards whether or not they had proof.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

For one thing

This isn’t a grand jury trial, it’s a message board. Lots of things people say are speculation. That was mostly what it was. For another, I incorrectly assumed this happened before the end of the season before the vote, which it did not, and as well the writers who voted may have known, but obviously makes no sense.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

People get their day in court and are allowed to appeal. Punishing him before he goes through the process would be just as wrong.

by VegasBlues on Dec 10, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Kendrys Morales will be tendered

Wonder what he would cost?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:43 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Probably what he cost this year.

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by regfairfield on Dec 10, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

To replace him? That’s what, 25 million a year, right?

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant for a trade

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

too much imo

I like him but only as a non tender pickup, shouldn’t deal prospects because hes a big question mark

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

best women athletes?

I’m going with volleyball players.
I bet most of these girls can dunk a basketball

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 4:56 PM PST reply actions  

The front line girls.
The hitters

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA had a volleyball player who was one of the best in the country and she played basketball for a few years. She was one of the highest jumpers in the game and she could barely, barely dunk. Tried it once in a game on a breakaway and she was…unsuccessfull to say the least. She was about as athletic as it gets. I would say that very, very few of those girls could dunk a basketball.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Natalie Williams

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, her name was Kristy Porter, i think. Natalie Williams is before my time.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 10, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tennis, maybe? Serena looks badass.

I suppose it depends what you mean by “athlete,” what skills you decide to favor.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Serena, I think that soccer players are pretty beastin’ too

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tall people that can jump strike me as being most athletic

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

If you told me that Ronald Belisario took PEDs, I wouldn’t believe you.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

just a ten minutes late HOOOOLY SHIT

by truemontenegro on Dec 10, 2011 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

Just saw a rumor (could be fake)

that we are about to acquire Daniel Murphy and Fernando Perez for:

DeJesus/Sellers, Ethan Martin, and Kyle Russell

It’s from the same message board that had Garland signing with the Dodgers last year, so who knows.

by silverwidow on Dec 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST reply actions  

thats fine!

a utility infielder, a guy who has no control and may not even make it to the bigs cause of his control, and a guy who K’s too much to make it….

not bad Ned!

by matthewmafa on Dec 10, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

No way the Mets would accept that package.

They could have had Russell for 50,000 if they wanted too.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he’s the thrown in and they like IDJ and Martin (two guys who will never make it with us).

by silverwidow on Dec 10, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

NOOOOO

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

shit, I'd love that

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

way too good to be true

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Murphy is a risk too cos of the knees, so...

plus we’re talking about the Mets

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 10, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

lol?
Pmoney30 Preston Mattingly
If you test positive for PEDS you should be banned from baseball @Buster_ESPN @jaysonst @dylanohernandez @ramonashelburne @pgammo @DickieV

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

How about being banned from baseball due to a lack of talent?

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

His dad probably told him he’d be in the hall of fame if not for the roid abusers

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Could see him saying that

His dad would have certainly had a better case if not for the roid abusers. Still unlikely but his numbers look a lot better without all the Mannys and Palmeiros of the world.

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

We should trade for Braun, his value is fucked!!

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 5:11 PM PST reply actions  

MLB network should show Ken Rosenthal and Jon Heyman in their PJs just to show how serious they are in getting the story.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You know who would never take PEDs unless God asked him to? Tim Tebow, that’s who.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 5:29 PM PST reply actions  

God made man, Man made PEDs

Who are we to judge!?

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

“If God made man, and man made the Transformers… its like Transformers are a gift from God, Randall!”

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And you’re upset when people say something is gay?

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I am now intrigued

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Its ok to mock an individual person, yet its not ok to use a word that doesnt refer to anyone specifically, and is actually used an adjective?

hmmm…

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

so your complain isn’t that Tripon mocked religion (legit) but that he made fun of Tebow?

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

actually

I was really curious as to whether or not you felt that someone going after religion/Christianity was offensive but using gay was not, or if you were using this as a point to say that you can’t say mocking someone for their sexual orientation is bad and then go and blast someone on religion (which I agree with).

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think people should be able to say whatever they want.

But, if they are going to attempt to limit their speech so as to not offend anyone, then they should apply that on all levels and to all groups.

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that goes both ways, and if you’re gonna say whatever you want, you have to accept that people are going to respond, and it might not be just “haha, you’re so funny”

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. :)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

People are allowed to say whatever they want to say.

But they need to recognize that some of the things they say might make them an asshole.

by court168627 on Dec 10, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I think its worse to mock an individual person, than some idea, creed, unnamed group, etc..

by Joey Joe on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This seems backwards to me. An individual person can provide ample evidence why they should be criticized; an entire large group of people, not so much.

How much do you mock Ned Colletti here?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 11, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

TAKE IT TO THE HATE THREAD!!!!!!!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

The hate thread doesn’t deserve this.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 5:54 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Is there any other way that someone’s testosterone levels can get suspiciously high without steroids?

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

are the levels the same between athletes and regular folk?

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought they basically did continuous testing, establishing a baseline and showing an increase. But I could be 100% wrong!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 5:58 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

That would make sense, yes?

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

this is when I wish I cared about science :(

I know that it is variable across humans…G took one when he was playing ball in college, and they came back and told him that he had higher-than-normal testosterone levels but nothing high enough to arouse suspicion that he was using.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, for women, I believe a certain type of ovarian cyst can (rarely) cause testosterone levels to go sky high.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

They said it was “highly unusual circumstances” that caused the positive…and now all the reading I’ve been doing on the ancient understanding of androgyny is making my knee-jerk conclusion “highly unusual” indeed.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if Braun has ovaries…this is a possible explanation!

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I was like, what if he has secondary sex — and then I was like, man, that would be an unexpected press conference

There’s sources coming out saying his 2nd test was negative. False positive LOL?!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Every individual naturally produces testosterone and a substance called epitestosterone, typically at a ratio of 1-to-1. In Major League Baseball, if the ratio comes in at 4-to-1 or higher during testing, a player is deemed to have tested positive. The sources did not indicate how high above the threshold Braun’s sample tested.

To affirm the results and strengthen its case, MLB asked the World Anti-Doping Agency lab in Montreal, which conducts its testing, to perform a secondary test to determine whether the testosterone spike resulted from natural variations within Braun’s body or from an artificial source. The test indicated the testosterone was exogenous, meaning it came from outside his body.

link

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

“Wait, Braun is getting out of this because he’s revealing he’s part woman? Shit, why didn’t I think of that?!”

-Manny and his fertility drugs

by EMDarrow on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd imagine so

But what I read also said there was levels of synthetic testosterone. How you can tell the difference I have no clue.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Dinger of Dingersblog retweeted something that said there’s really no way to tell the difference, though they differ at an atomic level…so…

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Cancer. Your body is pushing elevated levels to fight it off.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, UNM. Barely beat USC at USC in basketball.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 6:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

That was one of the uglier games to watch in recent memory. Welcome to 2011-2012 Trojans basketball.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Lobos could not buy a bucket the last… well, the entire second half. Was brutal to watch.

by fbihop on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

sbnbaseball: A second Ryan Braun sample test was reportedly not positive http://t.co/IRIfPfiK

by Josie Becker on Dec 10, 2011 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

it doesn’t really jive with what his people have been saying? confused

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Have not read this link but jay jaffe is trying to confirm if the second test was a re-test of the first sample, or if it was a second sample.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Heyman needs to use his super sluth skills on this

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

z

Robert Griffin the Third. COME ON DOWN! You’re the next contestant on the Price is Right!

(Also, you just won the Heisman.)

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Coliseum finance director earned Visa points on stadium upgrade

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-coliseum-20111211,0,2612102.story

In a brief interview, Lederkramer defended his handling of the equipment buy, which occurred as the Coliseum was reeling from an ongoing scandal that has focused on conflicts of interest among top managers. He said the Coliseum benefited because his credit card granted an extra year’s warranty for products bought with it.

“How does the agency get hurt?” he said.

But Visa’s extended warranty is not valid for products purchased for professional or commercial use and in all cases has a lifetime maximum of $50,000 for the account, according to a Visa spokeswoman.

Lederkramer said he has used his points to travel to conferences on Coliseum business. Asked if he had documentation of those trips, he said no. “Why would I have kept that?” he asked.


Yep, he’s getting fired.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry I missed the fun earlier

I don’t like to have set rules (other than no politics) because for the most part everyone here is capable of using common sense in almost every situation. It’s really simple: just treat others with respect, even if and really especially if you don’t disagree with them.

Thanks to everyone who kept it civil and handled things like adults.

Now let’s get back to this one….

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

Most of this is true.

One of Eric’s rules are…..If you hate Dr Pepper, you better be damn interesting as a poster to not get banned!

Im looking at you, Tommy!

by keithc13 on Dec 10, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I am intriguing enough

That Eric still wants me around. He’ll destroy me when he’s ready.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 7:14 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Just know, the proper armaments have already been deployed.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I shall toast them!

/clink!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 7:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

fuckin’
a
duece
jack
!

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommy’s on thin ice, he’s lucky he posts about awesome things :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

to know awesome

It helps to be awesome.

Write that down.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 7:43 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Gotta love the Van Wilder reference

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

the suspense is terrible
i hope it lasts

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Followed directly by a Willy Wonka ref.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

lthis is starting

To sound like cushings positive test

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 7:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I hope Braun doesn’t have cancer, that would be terrible.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

so come on
i’m goin’ home

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

gonna shake you darlin
shake you
all night long

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny said this back in 2009
Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug

So even if Braun didn’t mean to, or “didn’t mean to”, it’s his issue now.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

I think there are more people that are bad than there are good
And if you’re good you’ll live forever
And if your bad
you’ll die when you die

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB can come out and say that they fucked up something fierce and it wouldn’t much matter. The damage is done

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

honestly, I don't know

if MLB came out and said that Ryan Braun was innocent and didn’t do anything or have anything to do with PEDs, what would change? I would think that people would go, “Yeah! He’s a good guy! We knew it!”

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed but the haters will still wanna hate.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

well yeah

but haters are going to hate no matter what. The people who are going to be like “Fuck Braun anyway” are the same people who said “Fuck Ryan Braun” after he got voted MVP by people. It’s not like he came out and was like THAT’S RIGHT SON I AM THE BEST MOTHERFUCKING BASEBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME. He was voted in. And in his acceptance speech, wasn’t he really supportive of Kemp?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope, for baseball’s sake, that Ryan Braun did not take steroids.

by G.Scott on Dec 10, 2011 8:07 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Same

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 8:09 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He would have to bee a very poor decision maker if he did, no?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon Jones

Ain’t no joke.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 8:09 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

If he is suspended...
If suspended, Braun wouldn’t be eligible to play for the NL Central champions until May 31 at Dodger Stadium, barring any postponements.

SI story Link

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 8:10 PM PST reply actions  

Scully: “And wouldn’t you know it would have to be against the Dodgers.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d have his first at bat being able to see Matt Kemp in center out of the corner of his eye!

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

“I swear, I could kill Ryan Braun, decapitate him, skin his skull, and fuck it with my decidedly Gentile hammer.”

— Nasty Scully

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t like that this has become a thing :( Don’t like the idea of Vin Scully as anything but my dear, sweet old story telling grandfather

by G.Scott on Dec 10, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m also not very good at it. That will be my last attempt at Nasty Scully.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

the was fine
it’s a thing
get over it

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

this whole thread managed to make everyone angry and snippy.

by G.Scott on Dec 10, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame this on two people
Pujols
and
Stern

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think most of the people on this site actually don’t care that Pujols is in Anaheim

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I certainly don’t.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than Barry Bonds?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

and he’s got 10 years to win you over

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t care that he’s in Anaheim, has nothing to do with how I feel about Pujols as a guy or player

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

best hitter in the MLB for the past 10 years

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, I’m not taking enough drugs to make sense of this

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

you will have ample opportunity to see him swing the bat in super slo mo. no one has done it better for the past decade

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And yet, I find myself not caring

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that’s baseball
Let’s take the temperature a few years from now?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

she likes Pujols, thinks he’s a great player, doesn’t care anymore than he’s on the Angels than any other non-Dodgers team. Did I get that right?

by G.Scott on Dec 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

A couple more minutes and she’d have been a dyed-in-the-wool Angels fan! :)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I get to watch my favorite player like 95% more than I used to

Great news for me

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to some Angel games next year, fuck it

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutley

I went to more Angel games this year than Dodger games (my closest friends all seem to be Angel fans, wtf is wrong with me)

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You live in Simi Valley

which is a lot like Orange County. I can see it

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Really, how so?

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

epidemic of whiteness

by G.Scott on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

that and I NEVER see cops where my dad lives. I

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't go to residential Anaheim much huh

My friend lives on a street where I see people getting arrested 1/4 times I go there, and cops patrolling the street 1/2 times I go there. It’s ridiculous

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Anaheim
Santa Ana
La Habra

Check out the demographics

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say it's close to half white half hispanic/latino

With very little else sprinkled in.

Then again, that seems to be Anaheim too.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to opening day at Angels Stadium a few years back, and I kind of noticed that the only latino there was the guy I was with. It was really weird.

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I find if you go further towards the coast

It gets a lot whiter. Costa Mesa and then Newport especially.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You talkin’ ’bout Corona Del Mar?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re mostly talking about east side Costa Mesa. Much of the rest of the town is quite mixed.

by Freddy V on Dec 11, 2011 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

seriously

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

i see tons of al races at angel games

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 10, 2011 9:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

My dad lives by Fletcher st(?)

I’ve housesat a few times now, yet to see a black dude

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t really get the “omg orange county is only white poeple”. There aren’t many african americans, but other then that there is diversity.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s profiling, and that’s just WRONG!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahaha

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Humma has been angry for years :P

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I was born angry. True story. I came out ass backwards, umbilical cord around my neck. My mom couldn’t even birth me right.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I wondered why you reminded me of Bobby. He did the same.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 10, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should have a list of all the things Bobby and I have in common. 20,000 Kavulapoints to the best entry.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

but, we’re all Hummas.

by G.Scott on Dec 10, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you saying, Bobby, that you don’t enjoy the finest cheese the world has to offer?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

American cheese is stretching the definition of cheese.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 11, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say american cheese

Any kind of cheese is great for the most part

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

its not cheese

its cheese product. And I love it

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I was born with the cord around my neck

but by c-section clearly i wanted the f outta there

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t that dramatic, I was just born 2 months early. /shrug

;)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was born uh... 4 days early

it was a planned C b/c my mom found out from my brother that she couldn’t give birth naturally

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

you musta been a teeny tiny maddz :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

4 lbs. Very teeny tiny. :)

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

awwww :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If I’d been born 10 or 20 years later, I’d have been a C-Section.

But this I was born in the 70s, when doctors smoked.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

a month before he got the MVP
just before he went on the season long home run fest
hitting in front of the Prince
btw
who was the Bison hitting in front of?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Just before the playoffs

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 8:29 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

During the playoffs. Not sure if its the NLCS or World Series.

by Tripon on Dec 10, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

its been said 40 times already

but those Marlins jerseys are so fucking ugly..

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

and his head is so small

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

“I’ve got a big head??”

- Tommyboy

by Jack Huber on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

texas

everything’s bigger. All that

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re collecting them: Kershaw, Eovaldi, Tolleson.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I think there’s a scouting trend in there somewhere.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Texas scout must be good

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s from Ohio.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 11, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait, seriously?

I thought for sure he was texas.

The tone of how i worded that makes me a total jackass now. Haha.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 11, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

DEFIANCE

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a weird dream

where my dad told me Billingsley had shot a drug dealer, and my response was “but he’s from ohio!”

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Ca,Tex and Fla are the hot spots for talent

Vegas has had some serious talent coming thru these past few years

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This does gives some slight advantage to California, Texas and Florida teams signing players nearing the end of their careers, wanting to end up close to home.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 10, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Texas sucks

/rant over

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

Im going to a War Horse screening tommorrow, so I'll have a review of it soon after

It might suck, 2 hours and 20 minutes about a horse?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

You haven’t seen Secretariat, huh?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

nope... I'm hoping this one is a winner

and I get to meet the star after, Jeremy Irvine. Yummy.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

haha Secretariat is really good :)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This movie is a drama.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll check it out

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that other horse movie from the mid 2000s. Name escapes me.

by silverwidow on Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Queen Elizabeth?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Seabiscuit!

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah yes Tobey Maguire

No wonder I didn’t see that movie. Can’t wait to see him screw up Nick Carraway.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

nope, no clue

I just know I don’t like him as an actor

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t the star the horse?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 10, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If it wasn't directed by Spielberg

I would have completely written it off

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

On Braun

so he has a second test that is clean, but couldn’t he have bought one of those GNC cleansing kits? I know someone (not me) that did that when he was about to be drug tested for a job and had smoked MJ recently. I mean….

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:51 PM PST reply actions  

I can’t be sure but I wonder if you can cleanse hormones?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

it makes me you excrete and sweat and get rid of everything in your system.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

most of those things just mask most stuff

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

if MLB drug screens are beatable by GNC.. well fuck

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a feeling it was something from GNC

that got him in trouble in the first place. It was prob a damn protein bar or something… but still, he should really keep closer tabs on what he puts into his body knowing the consequences.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB drug tests can be defeated at Rite Aide

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Has there been any confirmation whether the second test is from a second sample or a B test of the first sample? That is a crucial difference.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Jay Jaffe is working on it.

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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

jaffe tweet
so ESPN, if 2nd test was on “different sample that was tested by Braun’s camp,” then what about B sample? Did it corroborate A sample?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

more

this is pretty good. from will carroll at SI

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/12/10/2627036/ryan-braun-tests-positive-performance-enhancing-drugs-peds

Well that’s fascinating. One sample tested positive. A subsequent sample did not test positive. Something must have been wrong with the test on the first sample, right? Exoneration, ho!

Not quite. Maybe, but we don’t know how much time passed between tests. They do, but we don’t, and that’s a critical piece of information. Additionally, the first sample seems to have been tested multiple times.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I would hope – HOPE – that there is no way this story comes to light if the sample had only been tested once.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You know journalism better than that

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was just one test and nothing further at this point. I’m glad it’s not the case though

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone was saying that the first sample has been tested a bunch of times

So that one is definitely failed, so even if he’s clean the second time it might not much.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

my bad, I coulda sworn I clicked the new window box

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 10, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

do anything for dethklok, it’s chill

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 10, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 12:59 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

so are you saying alpha was below the .05 or whatever

/stats fail

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 10, 2011 8:59 PM PST reply actions  

If that's how they tested

5% of all players test positive.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Dec 11, 2011 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Tonight’s cheese is, as always, really terrific: Brun de Noix (“Nut Brown”) — a washed rind cheese rinsed with, get this, walnut liqueur. The link is to a google translate page from… the creamery? The affineur? I don’t really know.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

Well, Dwight Howard it is then.

/Lakers

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

Is there a trade close?

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I know the link doesn't say

But who would the Lakers get back?

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They will get the $8.9 million trade exemption they would have received in the original CP3 deal.

No way they hand Odom over unless they have something else lined up…like Howard

by Eric Stephen on Dec 10, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So essentially cap space?

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I know it's in an effort to get Howard

But the way it sounds isnt as a 3 team trade, but as giving up Odom to make room for Howard. Idk, just seems a lot different than baseball, haha.

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wonderful

I originally wanted Howard more, then thinking about them more as players I preferred Paul because he is more of a leader and is really exciting. Also the PG situation is dire.

I never thought the Lakers were gonna be serious contenders this year anyway. They should just keep the space to pursue Paul this summer. I don’t see him committing to an extension with the Clips or Warriors.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 4:14 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Something that can only work out well …

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 10, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard the Lakers were getting Gay

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 10, 2011 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

callback?

Lol jk. Is Gay a free agent or would they be trading for him?

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by Ivdown on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s in the Air & Space Museum

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Cue the video where he calls an ump a cunt

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If Braun is suspended

I would expect a movement from the writers to rescind the award and give it to Kemp. Unprecedented shit.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 4:18 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Excellent column on MLB drug testing as it relates to the "Braun case"

from Will Carroll of SI:

Link

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Dec 11, 2011 7:01 AM PST reply actions  

(See Maddz’ post at 11:36 PM last night.)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Dec 11, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

so nice

had to post it twice

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Partied hard last night in Montgomery AL

they still smoke in bars here – I have the after party stink of my 20’s on me

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 11, 2011 8:13 AM PST reply actions  

they still smoke in bars in Nashville, too!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Why did the Lakers trade Odom for nothing?

by Julio Nievas on Dec 11, 2011 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

What’s that mean? How do you trade for nothing? (I don’t follow basketball, so I have no idea if this was merely an outrageous exaggeration.)

by berkowit28 on Dec 11, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

traded Odom to the Mavs

for Draft Picks

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh. Thanks. So it could be translated as “traded for the future”? If it’s like baseball where the top teams get the lowest draft picks and vice versa, trading to a poor team with top draft picks could be very smart, no? Though I guess there’s a big risk involved that the top draft picks actually become the top players a few years down the road.

by berkowit28 on Dec 11, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

my guess

is they will trade the picks for Dwight Howard

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s like baseball, but the Mavs are the defending champions.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 11, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

They traded Odom for the trade exemption.

Its a contract for contract trade, not a player for player trade. You have to do this in the NBA if you want to set up trades over the caps.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Story is changing

Rosenthal:

Source: Braun tested positive for a prohibited substance, not a performance-enhancing drug. More coming on FOXSports.com. #Brewers #MLB

also, Tom Handicourt article

But my source — and again, this is from Braun’s end and not MLB — familiar with the test’s findings says the “prohibited substance” was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has “never” been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.

The source said MLB “knows that Ryan is telling the truth” and firmly believes the postive test will be overturned. Pretty amazing stuff, huh?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Haudricourt*

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea what to make of this

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

But I want to see the plot of Junior play out in real life!

How this didn’t kill Arnold’s career, I have no idea.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

it tried

but Arnold flexed and scared it off.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Braun really is pregnant!

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Contract tendering etiquette

When teams put something in before the Monday deadline, do they just tender the minimum to have something on record? Or do they put in something in realistic? My understanding is that it does not represent their number for arbitration.

by BoilerAero on Dec 11, 2011 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

They probably just submit paperwork stating intent to tender a contract

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no actual salary number (unless the two sides reach agreement on a deal); tomorrow is more akin to filing paperwork

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

To add to what’s been said, the team and player exchange figures between Jan. 5-15 (assuming no deal beforehand).

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Correction

The players file between those dates, but exchange figures on the 18th.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

TJ Yates

JUST.WINS.GAMES.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

he won his first start too

not like that Tebow guy…..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Set up a OTA antenna at my girlfriend’s house. Don’t get CBS or ABC but get all the other channels. Strange.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

does she have a cable outlet?

you can try plugging that directly into the tv, works for me. I got all basic caqble in SD and channels like ABC and CBS in hd.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

you have to go into the menu and have it find the channels for you

and tell it that the source is cable not antenna.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm… I’ll have to get a cable splitter and try that.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I was paying a ton of money for cable at the time

so no. Its not HD though, so its not perfect

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgot you cut the cord already. Strange that the cable still has use value afterward

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

NFL Playoff Picture

Through the early games:

AFC: 1. Houston 2. Baltimore 3. New England 4. Denver 5. Pittsburgh 6. New York Jets
NFC: 1. Green Bay 2. San Francisco 3. New Orleans 4. Dallas 5. Atlanta 6. Detroit

I like Houston vs. Baltimore and Green Bay vs. New Orleans.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

While I agree, there is a difference between the group saying that’s not acceptable in polite society versus a moderator saying that’s not acceptable here

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I will also admit that I misread Dave’s post and he’s addressing the same group throughout.

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Will the Packers even play Rodgers in the 2nd half of today’s game? This game got out of hand quickly.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

You and me both.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 11, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a gay ole time while Wilma and Betty were out shopping

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 11, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I find the arguments defending the behavior maybe even worse than the use of the pejorative

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 11, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I found the whole thing silly on BOTH sides

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 11, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, sure. Why try to teach a pig to sing?

But, I wouldn’t hang out here, or anywhere, if words like that were acceptable and common in usage

We all say regrettable things, I know I say and write things I wish I hadn’t, but when someone draws attention to it I have a standard – “You’re right, my bad, mods please remove my comment”

To me freedom starts and ends with respecting the freedom of others, and that includes how they feel

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 11, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

No maybe about it. Although I find myself having a hard time getting upset about having people I already assumed to be idiots opening their mouths and removing all doubt.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 11, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

is there cuddling after the after-debate?

or is that after the after-after-debate?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

well there’s cuddling, but the spoon-ee will fall asleep leaving the spooner to watch Mickey cartoons on their phone

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

man there is a lot of cuddling going on in the texans after game thread

everything is green up in there

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah, I saw that. Way to go! Now Bills, Lions have longest playoff droughts

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

really? they were way down when i checked

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

16-3 at the half

first play of the 2nd half barwin strip sacked Dalton, texans turn that into a tD. then the benagls go get 3, after that it was all texans.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Just got back from War Horse...

I recommend it, I give it a B+.. inquire further for details

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 11, 2011 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Its actually more about WWI than the horse itself.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 11, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly no....

but he has emotions, like he’s a real person. It’s really cute.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Dec 11, 2011 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

’es me ’orse sir

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Caleb Hanie is terrible

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 3:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah he is. Good thing he’s got an awesome defense that so far hasn’t let Tebow score any points.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

After how he played last year in the NFC title game, I thought he could at least be decent. Man, now I wonder how the Bears could let the No. 2 QB be SO BAD.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 3:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Guess who sat Matt Ryan and the Lions D this week?

Yeah, this guy.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

Rodgers surprisingly hasn’t had a huge fantasy game despite his team winning by 31.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Their defense has 3 picks

Rodgers hasn’t had to carry them in any way today. Also their rushing game actually showed up . The guys on ESPN Radio were saying it would be a shootout with Woodson playing. Lol.

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ordered the Bob Dylan Mono box set on CD. It’s his first eight albums remastered. Awesome stuff at his peak.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

that's awesome

I know some people don’t like it, but I love remastered albums

by eitherethier on Dec 11, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a fan of Dylan, but I appreciate his place in music history.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s funny, but some of my favorite Beatles songs had some Dylan inspiration to them. So it was easy to like the guy’s work.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember long ago listening to ‘Mr Tambourine Man’ driving home along the ocean toward Santa Barbara in the darkness of night and being totally transfixed by it.

And I wasn’t even smoking anything.

by Freddy V on Dec 11, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

according to this article

Braun’s initial test results were “insanely high”.

there were saying it was twice as high as the highest ever recorded amount.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

We've heard

Braun wasn’t on a PED. We haven’t heard he wasn’t taking synthetic testosterone

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

A synthetic testosterone isn’t a PED?

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I had that same question.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be a PED i think.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

here you go ...

espn

The positive result was triggered by elevated levels of testosterone in Braun’s system, the sources told “Outside the Lines.” A subsequent, more comprehensive test revealed the testosterone was synthetic — not produced by Braun’s body.

by Venergy on Dec 11, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

if those things are true

hard to imagine that being overturned

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If the amount was really twice as high as the highest amount, wouldn’t Braun be hulking out on everyone?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

you mean like, being 5’10" and the best hitter in the NL?

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

no

i mean like going bat shit crazy over everything.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Geez, its about to be Tebow time again.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Prater will try to one-up Gould’s 57 yarder

by Julio Nievas on Dec 11, 2011 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

Are you fucking kidding me?

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I know i saw it. I just can’t believe that teams can’t close out games against denver and each week tebow has a chance to win/tie on the final drive.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

crazy game

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

TEBOW JUST KICKED A 59 YARDER

of matt prater did

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 11, 2011 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

forget tebow

go prater

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

although it is in mile high

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Tebow pushed Marion Barber out of bounds!

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

I guess Tebow magic consists of opposing players making idiotic mistakes. The Broncos let other teams beat themselves.

Fucking incredible. MARION BARBER

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 4:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Last week it was Christian Ponder’s interception.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He transcends all. It really is remarkable.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 11, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet he could win the lottery right now if he played it.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

15-20, 163 yards in the 4th quarter

#Tebowtimeexists

by Julio Nievas on Dec 11, 2011 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

talk about a turnaround

he was terrible in the first 3 quarters

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking i should Teb

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 11, 2011 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

Adrian Wojnarowski
DeAndre Jordan has signed a 4 year, $43 million offer sheet with Golden State, agent Greg Lawrence tells Y!

I wonder if the Clippers will match.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

Barber trying to redeem himself.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

holy shit

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

I can only laugh at the absurdity

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 4:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Fuck it, I’m on the Tebow bandwagon now. I can’t fight against it!

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

I'm not surrpised he is having success

just that he is having this much success. John Fox has a legit argument for coach of the year with the defensive turnaround and his willingness to buy into Tebow.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

and then he kicked ass in the 4th. He didn’t win the game single handedly, but he had his hand in it for sure

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of it is the Bears defense doing a ‘prevent defense’.

I really hate prevent defenses. Why suddenly change gears on something you know works for the whole game and intentionally give up yardage.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

yep, that is where chicago fucked up big time.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Chicago wasn’t doing very well covering the pass all game, but Tebow made some bad passes and his receivers caught some catchable balls.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

His WRs dropped a bunch of balls earlier or he’d have been around 50% passing before he got red hot in the 4th.

by Joey Joe on Dec 11, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone seems to think any ball that gets remotely close to his recievers should be caught

I don’t think any other QB gets more leeway in this regard on the planet.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Tom Brady has made a career out of underthrowing receivers

/MW’d

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m recing this hoping mike stumbles through

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

its hypnotic

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

all hail the hypno brady

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

no shit

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

can’t stop the Broncos

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

Oh...my...god...

At this point, there is no way not to root for Tebow and the Broncos, as long as you’re not a chiefs, raiders, or chargers fan.

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

Wow.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 11, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Tebow sure does have a hell of a leg, to kick that 59-yard field goal. And that forced fumble and recovery? Awesome.

I like where he pushed Barber out of bounds, too.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

God finally has the son he always wanted.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This is way more inflammatory than using “gay” as an adjective.

Are you fn serious?

by Joey Joe on Dec 11, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Joey Joe

let it go

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, probably best not to make fun of Tebow’s religion anymore

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

/looks up from fourth century theological treatises

and also it’s just totally wrong from a theological standpoint

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha

Yes, that’s un-PC AND funny

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 6:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

His QB rating jumped from 11.1 after three quarters to 68.3 after overtime.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

His QB rating for the year is way higher in the 4th quarter than other quarters.

by Joey Joe on Dec 11, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

can we call him the Anti-LeBron?

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They gave his receivers all the room in the world in the 4th quarter.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No kidding. People’s better senses are being clouded by this nonsense. I give Tebow credit for that which he’s responsible, not players and teams throwing a game away like that.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 4:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

No kidding. People’s better senses are being clouded by this nonsense. I give Tebow credit for that which he’s responsible, not players and teams throwing a game away like that.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 4:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Tebow was 18-24 for 191yards and a TD in the 4th and OT.
He’s ice late in the game.

by Joey Joe on Dec 11, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but the Bears gave that game away. Literally.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 6:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

What a lucky break Tebow is best buds with the dude upstairs

It definitely has it’s perks

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

Colts are 0-13

Do they get a win this year at all?

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

no. this year Colts is even worse than the 2008 Lions team.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe week 16 against Jacksonville. I don’t see them beating the Titans or the Texans

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It's 250 bucks for 1 share of the Packers

It would be seriously awesome to have even just 1 share.

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

Transferable only upon death, no dividends. It’s just vanity.

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by Nolij on Dec 11, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

It would essentially be like “owning” your own star, just less lame :)

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by Ivdown on Dec 11, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m surprised that its legal to sell something with so much restrictions.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The Packers don’t even bother to inform the SEC about the sale.
The restrictions come from the fact that the Packers are technically a nonprofit corporation

You do get the right to go to an annual stockholders meeting. Presumably there are snakcs.

by btimmer on Dec 11, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

why didn’t anyone tell me that the cheese was so good?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

/Maddzpunch

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone seen this Hell on Wheels show on AMC? Any Good?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

I like it, but it’s slower than Breaking Bad with less violence

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I have enjoyed Hell On Wheels a great deal...

But plenty of other people posting their opinions on the net are less impressed.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 11, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sold on it yet

It’s not bad, but hasn’t really hooked me. I’m a couple episodes behind. The good news is that nothing could be worse than American Gothic.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 11, 2011 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve yet to watch it. Will probably go on a marathon over Christmas week when the girlfriend is gone.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It did prompt me

to buy a book on the building of the transcontinental railroad.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 11, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I like almost everything about the show except for the speed of it. It’s like it is running in slow motion.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Clipper fans, you see this?

from Chris Broussard

Hornets asking for E Gordon, Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu and 2 1st round picks, sources say

that’s for CP3

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

that seems like a lot, not knowing anything

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

its basically the clippers second best player, their 2 best prospects and a pretty good player with an expiring contract, ie its insanity

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 11, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Good job, NBA.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

David Stern

has royally screwed the Hornet franchise.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He seems to be doing what we feared Selig et al would do to the Dodgers if MLB took over the franchise

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Dec 11, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

just sad that he caved to a bunch of whiny owners.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

what i can’t believe is that for everything the lakers have done for the nba, it’s just so wrong for stern to turn his back on them like that.

by Venergy on Dec 11, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh. I’m a diehard Lakers fan and I find that argument weak. The NBA doesn’t owe the Lakers anything.

Voiding the deal might actually work out better for the Lakers anyways. The only team that truly got screwed is the Hornets.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

did you read gilbert’s letter to stern? that was all about laker hating. there is a lot of resentment out there which became obvious with the pau gasol trade.

by Venergy on Dec 11, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The NBA does own it to all teams, including the Hornets, Rockets and Lakers to not interfere during normal operating procedures, like trades.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 11, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I was saying they don’t owe anything extra to the Lakers because of what the Lakers have done for the league like was implied by Venergy.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont know how you derived that from my statement. Im not a laker fan and even i can see that sterns move was prejudiced against the lakers. Im just saying stern should have treated the lakers like every other team cuz if it was anyother team that deal would have been approved.

by Venergy on Dec 12, 2011 4:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it was in this portion of your comment


what i can’t believe is that for everything the lakers have done for the nba, it’s just so wrong for stern to turn his back on them like that.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2011 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d give them Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu, and the clippers first rounder (not the one they got from minnesota) for Paul.

by Venergy on Dec 11, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That's pretty much a crap offer

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 6:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

clippers have the leverage. and as a clipper fan i want them to hold the line. they lose gordon they ain’t getting far.

by Venergy on Dec 11, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not?

Demps might as well ask for the moon, this way Paul can eventually find himself back in the Lakers’ arms. NO won’t match the return from that Laker-Houston trade.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 6:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

With Odom being traded there is no chance Paul will be traded to the Lakers.

by VegasBlues on Dec 11, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it finalized?

I was hoping the Lakers were playing chicken and could rework the trade without Odom, but whatever. The NBA has really become a laughing stock and it won’t get better.

They didn’t address the structural problems with the league with this CBA, so the jealous and bad owners took it out on Chris Paul.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Dec 11, 2011 7:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

clippers aren’t asking paul to sign a long term contract. they just want him to pick up his 2013 option so they have him for 2 years. long enough for him to enjoy playing alongside griffin. if thats the case lakers can go after deron williams next year. even though deron said he’ll sign a long term contract with NJ, how’s he gonna say ‘no’ to the lakers, specially if they get howard?

by Venergy on Dec 11, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Non-tenders tomorrow night

Let’s see if anyone good turns up…or maybe Ned is flat out of $$$.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

If the Cowboys win tonight, today will have been a horrible NFL Sunday for me.

by fbihop on Dec 11, 2011 6:33 PM PST reply actions  

25 man roster prediction

Pitchers (12):

Kershaw
Billingsley
Lilly
Harang
Capuano

Guerra
Jansen
Guerrier
Elbert
Lindblom
Eovaldi
Hawksworth

Catchers (2):

A. Ellis
Treanor

Infielders (6):

Loney
M. Ellis
Gordon
Uribe
Hairston
Kennedy

Outfielders (4):

Kemp
Ethier
Rivera
Sands

Basically one spot left…hope it’s Daniel Murphy.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2011 6:34 PM PST reply actions  

bold to do this in December. I bet this list looks at least 20% different on 4/4

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I will be sad if Eovaldi is not starting in the minors. Kuo and TGJ being tendered would eliminate those two holes in terms of best-laid plans and all. Bard could end up on the team as a third catcher too, since JHJ can also play outfield.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Dec 11, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

barring injures, I see no other scenario where the catching situation isn’t Ellis MLB starter, Treanor MLB backup, Federowicz AAA starter, Bard AAA backup.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Random Thought

Due to the recession, is 20% tipping still the norm?

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

I would say yes, percentage stays the same, just total amount of tips would be less as a result of a decrease in how often people go out to treat themselves.

Newbie

by gdl on Dec 11, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

have tipping percentages risen

seems like it was 10% when I was growing up, then 15% and now 20%? And who sets the rates? The restaraunt industry?

by Xeifrank on Dec 12, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Food Question

How long does it take beef bourguignon to stop tasting like meat you poured wine on and start tasting amazing?

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by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2011 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

At least a couple of hours. It also helps to use the really cheap cuts of beef as well. The process isn’t designed for the expensive cuts.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Julia Child, in Mastering the Art of French Cooking, says 2.5 to 3 hours.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Dec 11, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool, I’m still good then. Just need to know when I have to go into damage control.

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by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Only have Canadian bacon on hand. Seemed like a waste.

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by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Pork Belly is amazing though.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Next time I’ll go all out but this was a zero effort kinda thing. Basically just beef, onions, garlic, carrots and wine.

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by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

cool. As the bouef juices do chemical reaction things with the wine over the next few hours, it’ll be kitty fantastico

by Josie Becker on Dec 11, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Searing it at high heat before you start the braises is very important to bring out the flavor

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Dec 11, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

dude is tight on his facts

the fact that I am posting at 2:07AM eastern time and have a morning flight bodes ill for my morrow

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 11, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If you don't

Dry the beef and cook them too close together, you will get rubbery beef.

Also, I find using chuck and cutting into 1.5 by 1.5 pieces works well.

If you use lean beef and not use the bacon, you run the risk of not having enough fat.

Also, the pearl onions, bouquet garni and mushrooms add important flavor. Also the tomato paste.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 11, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

always with the tomato paste:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 12, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Never ever get a rabbit as a pet. They never want you to pet them.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

My rabbit > your rabbit then.

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by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re so lucky. ;_;

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Game over. Blocked FG.

by jrock247 on Dec 11, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, I know. " Cool story, bro!" It wouldn’t have been so lame if they would have made the field goal. lol

by jrock247 on Dec 12, 2011 6:09 AM PST up reply actions  

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C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
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SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
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RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
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LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
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