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Can you guess the Baseball America Top 30 - 2011 edition

Since some liked the guessing game from the Baseball America chat, I will do the same for positions 11-31 in their 2011 ranking of the 12th best minor league system (in their opinion).

First a reminder of their previously published 2010 Top Ten:

1.  Dee Gordon SS

2.  Zach Lee RHP

3.  Rubby de la Rosa RHP

4.  Chris Withrow RHP

5.  Allen Webster RHP

6.  Jerry Sands OF

7.  Scott Elbert LHP

8.  Kenley Jansen RHP

9.  Ethan Martin RHP

10.  Trayvon Robinson OF

BTW, Dee Gordon appeared in all three editors' Top 50 prospect lists(22nd, 28th, and 30th) and was the only Dodger prospect to be in the Top 50.

Okay, now the game, I will try to either take a direct small quote or some fact and you try to guess the player.  Oh and when I say high round pick I mean double digit round.

30.  One of six prospects to share something in common.  - Luis Vasquez

29.  Highest round pick from this year to be ranked in Top 30.  -  Derek Cone

28.  One of  a plethora of players from this crowded position area for this team, certainly not among the more celebrated  -  Angelo Songco

27.  The plainest of names, at least last ones.  "Easy plus arm."  -  Blake Smith

26.  Ceiling is "major league set-up man."  - Javy Guerra

25.  "mechanically sound left-handed swing" and "tick above-average speed runner."  Name is the same of patriarch in long running TV show.  -  Joc Pederson

24.  compared to "Mark Loretta" and a "heady player" and "who gets the most out of what he has."  - Jake Lemmerman

23.  "solid swing that is short to the ball."  "plus speed" and a "chance to play center."  -  Scott Schebler

22.  "upside remains impressive."  "tools to become big league[r]"  -  Pedro Baez

21.  "generate average to potentially above average power" "range is good enough for now"  -  Jonathan Garcia

20.  Best two pitches are his fastball and curve.  Among the better personal stories on this list. - Ralston Cash

19.  Third player from that plethora of players mentioned earlier.  "outstanding bat speed."  -  Brian Cavazos-Galvez

18.   Command is average for his age.  Curve is his best pitch.  -  Garrett Gould

17.  His setback may have been more due to injury but has "fearless nature" on the mound and "maturity" off it.  - Nathan Eovaldi

16.  "flashing 94-95 mph" in instructional league  -  Josh Lindblom

15.  Consistent, same good number for two years and within less than 2% of having same number of something some folks dwell on.  - Kyle Russell

14.  Of all the players on this list, he could be the one who is blocked to some extent.  -  Ivan De Jesus, Jr.

13.  ceiling is a "mid-rotation starter"  - Aaron Miller

12.  I guess height and frame do make a difference.  -  James Baldwin

11.  Third potential prospect for this position, could have 4 average or better tools.  -  Leon Landry

 

Oh and number 31, I'll give you that one, Ryan Christenson, LHP from 2010 draft (7th round).

Okay, start guessing.

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A few guesses

11. Baez
12. Russell
13. A. Miller
14. DeJesus
15. ???
16. Eovaldi
17. Lindblom
18. Gould
19. Lemmerman

That’s all for now, maybe more later.

by silverwidow on Feb 1, 2011 6:21 AM PST reply actions  

I change #15 to Russell.

My new guess for #12 is Garcia.

by silverwidow on Feb 1, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

One is right

No. 15 is correct, but not number 12

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Busy

but 20 seems to be Ralston Cash?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

So far then:

13 – Andrew Miller
14 – Ivan DeJesus
15 – Kyle Russell
18 – Gould
20 – Ralston Cash

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:00 AM PST reply actions  

Dang I want to play

but I do have to get some work done.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

I have the book so i'm obviously not playing

but for those who didn’t see my comment last night in a previous post, the Dodgers minor league system was ranked #12 overall, which is about where I thought it would be, but probably higher than most expected

by Brandon Lennox on Feb 1, 2011 8:02 AM PST reply actions  

Good to hear

I was guessing 12 – 18 so definitely at the high end of what I was hoping to see.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

San Diego

being ranked above and the Giants being double digits behind would surprise people too.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

San Diego

got that bump from the Adrian deal

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup

Scouts are infatuated with Casey Kelly.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

22 Baldwin
23 Landry

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 1, 2011 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

24 Late Night

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 1, 2011 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

Yep

good thing I know the TBLA nicknames.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

11. Baldwin
12. Would have guessed Garcia
13. A. Miller
14. DeJesus
15. Kyle Russell
16. Lindblom
17. Eovaldi
18. Gould
19. Leon Landry
20. Cash
21. Lemmerman
22. Garcia
23. BCG
24. Pederson
25. No idea – TV thing threw me off
26. Solano
27. Blake Smith
28. Silverio
29. Tolleson
30. Magill

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

Now that is a player

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, of all those

besides the ones already guessed, he got 16 and 17 correct (silverwidow so close)

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn that is pretty bad on my part.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a tough game

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll also add

the last 3 names on your guesses are not on the Top 30 list.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Really

shocked that MaGill did not crack the top 30.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Solano on there

If so, is he all the way up at 12?

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

he is on the list, no he is not 12

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

if he’s not 26 I don’t see where any desc fits so I’ll go 30

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually

I was wrong, he is not on the list, sorry

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops

Blake Smith was right at 27

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see how Solano is not in our top 30, unless its A) it’s an oversight or B) They think last season was a total fluke.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

when i saw oversight i read it was overweight…which could actually be the reason based on what they said in the BA chat

by Brandon Lennox on Feb 1, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going 17 for Lindblom

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

29 for Schebler

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

No

that one might be hard since I don’t think he has been talked about much

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

How about Mathew Kirkland

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

So far

13. Miller
14. De Jesus, Jr.
15. Russell
16. Lindblom
17. Eovaldi
18. Gould
20. Cash
24. Lemmerman

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

11 – Galvez
19 – Galvez

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:18 AM PST reply actions  

11. Landry or Pederson

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

How about 11 for Garcia then

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I keep thinking 28 sounds like Songco, but I know he usually doesn’t make these lists.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 1, 2011 8:20 AM PST reply actions  

I'm sure Blake Smith

is on this list since it is BA and he was a number two pick but I’ve yet to see a description that fits him

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake Smith 21 or 25 (not sure about the TV thing though)

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

You and SW

helped narrow the choices by trying for everyone

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

No

Smith is not 21 or 25

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

You sir

are correct. Songco is 28

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Holla.

21 Baez

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 1, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

No

21 was Jonathan Garcia

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

So Far

 So far

11. Landry – BFDC
13. Miller – SW
14. De Jesus, Jr. – SW
15. Russell – SW
16. Lindblom – BFDC
17. Eovaldi – BFDC
18. Gould – SW
19 – Galvez – MC
20. Cash – MC
24. Lemmerman – GC
28 – Songco – GC

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:28 AM PST reply actions  

22 – Elbert
21 – Garcia

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

know you are busy meercatjohn

but Elbert was in the Top 10, but 21 is right.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

22. Pederson
23. Baldwin

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

No

but they are on the list. Of the remaining 7 players, 4 have been mentioned in the thread and 3 have not.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

here my guess

11-BALDWIN
21-PEDERSON
23-SCHEBLER
26-WILBORN
27-SOLANO
29-CONE

by coloblue on Feb 1, 2011 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

Of the ones that remain

You are correct with Schebler at 23 and Derek Cone at 29

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow… Schebler at 23. Nice guess Coloblue

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

30

Joc Pederson

the thing they share in common is bloodlines.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 1, 2011 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

No

and one thing is for sure, one hint is showing a generational gap of popular culture.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

So Pederson is 25? What show is that?

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

No

he is not on the Top 30 list

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

12 is baldwin

the hint was in contrast to Jonathan Garcia.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I should have known when you said I was close earlier. I was thinking too much about the hints and stopped thinking about where these guys should actually be.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

12-BALDWIN..DUH 11 WAS TAKEN
22- PEDSESON
26-SOLANO

by coloblue on Feb 1, 2011 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

#16 Lindblom

This is great news. I’d love to see him bounce back this spring.

by kinbote on Feb 1, 2011 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

Update

11. Landry
12. Baldwin
13. A. Miller
14. Dejesus
15. K. Russell
16. Lindblom
17. Eovaldi
18. Gould
19. BCG
20. Cash
21. Garcia
22.
23. Schebler
24. Late Night
25.
26.
27. Blake Smith
28. Songco
29. Cone
30.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

solano is not 26??
how about 30

by coloblue on Feb 1, 2011 9:10 AM PST reply actions  

Solano

Is not on the list

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 9:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Canuck will be up in arms!

by kinbote on Feb 1, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

30 Solano..since he is not 26
29 Tolleson
26
Wilborn?
22 NCuevas

by coloblue on Feb 1, 2011 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

all

Not on the list

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 9:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm thinking #26 is one of

Schlicting, J. Miller, Cole St. Clair…

Since its not Solano, Wilborn, Ames, Tolleson, I can’t think of who else it could be.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the Schlichting pick.

by silverwidow on Feb 1, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

nice

Try But none on the list

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 9:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

22 Baez
 
26 – Brandon Martinez

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

i wish brandon martinez was on the list, but he's not

I don’t have the list with me today but i’m pretty sure 22 is Baez

by Brandon Lennox on Feb 1, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

On Baez.

26 and 30 are both pitchers and neither of their names have been mentioned. Besides being both pitchers, they share the same thing in common with 4 other players on the list.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 9:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

all six have no chance of being major league pitchers?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Javy Guerra and Jon Link

the last two of the 6 prospects on the 40-man roster.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Vazquez

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

Yup

That is the only remaining possibility. I always blank on him.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

You are not alone.

by kinbote on Feb 1, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

but fun.

BH thanks for taking the time to do something like this.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Well done

Sorry that some of the hints were vague. And the TV hint, Jock Ewing was the patriarch of the long running CBS series “Dallas.”

The list is updated at the top with their names.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Quite an impressive ranking for Baldwin, being an 18 year old in the Arizona league. We may not have any 1st, 2nd, SS, 3rd baseman, or catchers but we’s got a boatload of outfielders.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

There are

14 RHP and 10 outfielders on this list (including Sands).

Others:
2 LHP
2 SS
1 3B
1 2B/SS

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That is weeeeaaaak up the middle. No C, 1 middle IF, and maybe 3 CFs (Trayvon, Baldwin and Landry?)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 1, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

3 middle IF and at least 4 CFers. Thats not that bad. Just no catchers.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

middle IF – Gordon, DeJesus, Lemmerman – if he sticks there. Weren’t there scouts who were pegging him for a move to 3B or am I misremembering that?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 1, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I think someone might have tossed it out there, but just because he’s a non-speed guys. He’s a SS for now. If he moves it could just as easily be 2B as 3B.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha

Coming soon: a five man outfield.

by kinbote on Feb 1, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Breakdown by drafts and FA signings

2010 – 8
2009 – 6
2008 – 7
2007 – 1
2005 – 2
2004 – 2

International signings – 4

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

Do we all agree Ned needs to take a break from trading these guys for a while? His track return on returns hasn’t been great. At quick glance, Lilly, Blake, & Hawksworth are the only guys in the mix whom we acquired via trade.

Plus, with all the expiring or near-expiring contracts, we will have a chance to radically overhaul this team soon.

by kinbote on Feb 1, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree. That is one of the main reasons I don’t like the Uribe and Gurrier signings.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You never want to

radically alter your team. It is a recipe that will not turn out well.

Also, for every trade of a prospect you regret, there all those prospects you hang onto until they have lost all value for any decent return.

For myself, sure there would be deals I probably would have questioned if I had the keys to the car but I probably would have made some other ridiculous move in the alternative.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 1, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe radically

is too strong a word, but this team is headed for some big changes. I suspect there will only be a handful of guys on the squad in 2013 that are here opening day 2011.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s pretty much what I was getting at.

by kinbote on Feb 1, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

No

don’t see much here other then Zach Lee that I’d be remiss in him trading if he actually got value back instead of Dotel. If you mean Ned should stop making bad trades I agree.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

haha

I think that is what he meant.

by BFDC on Feb 1, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

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