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A Look At Dodger Contract Incentives

Now that Hong-Chih Kuo and James Loney have finalized their contracts for 2011, the Dodgers have 20 players signed to contracts this season for a total of $92.05 million. Ten of the 20 Dodgers under contract have performance bonuses in their contract that could raise that total even higher.

Last season, the Dodgers had 19 players on the major league roster who had performance bonuses built in to their contracts:

Dodgers 2010 Contract Incentives
Player Potential Achieved
Ramon Ortiz $1,050,000 $0
Russ Ortiz $1,050,000 $0
Rafael Furcal $1,000,000 ???
Vicente Padilla $1,000,000 $0
Jamey Carroll $525,000 $200,000
Casey Blake $500,000 $250,000
Jonthan Broxton $500,000 $0
Matt Kemp $300,000 $150,000
Reed Johnson $250,000 $125,000
Andre Ethier $250,000 $0
Ronnie Belliard $250,000 $0
Garret Anderson $200,000 $25,000
Hong-Chih Kuo $150,000 $25,000
George Sherrill $150,000 $75,000
Jason Repko $137,500 $0
Brad Ausmus $100,000 $0
Russell Martin $100,000 $0
Jeff Weaver $100,000 $0
Nick Green $100,000 $0
Totals $7,712,500 $850,000*

The one very vague incentive is for Rafael Furcal, who receives $1 million annually for "maintaining a core strengthening program to keep his back healthy." That's not nearly as easy to track as, say, plate appearances or games pitched, so it's hard to say with confidence how much of that bonus Furcal actually earned in 2010. He did spend 28 days on the disabled list last year with a low back strain, so it's very likely Furcal didn't receive all of that $1 million bonus.

But for the incentives we can track, players on the 2010 Dodgers earned $850,000 of a possible $6,712,500 in performance bonuses, or 12.7%. Most of those bonuses were paid in 2010, but Matt Kemp's $150,000 for reaching 650 plate appearances in 2010 was added to his base salary in 2011, increasing it from $6.95 million to $7.1 million this season. In fact, at 668 plate appearances, Kemp finished seven plate appearances shy of another $150,000 bonus.

Here's a summary of contract incentives for the 2011 Dodgers:

Dodgers 2011 Contract Incentives
Player 2011 2012
Vicente Padilla $9,000,000
Jon Garland
$2,525,000 $1,000,000
Rafael Furcal $1,000,000 $1,300,000
Marcus Thames
$800,000
Hong-Chih Kuo $700,000
Jamey Carroll $525,000
Casey Blake $500,000
Hiroki Kuroda
$500,000
Jay Gibbons
$150,000
Andre Ethier $125,000
Totals $6,825,000 $11,300,000

That is a boatload of potential contract bonuses in 2011, most of which are in Vicente Padilla's low-base, heavily incentive-laden contract. Padilla has a base salary of $2 million, and can earn up to $6.8 million in relief bonuses, based on both games pitched in relief and games finished. He can also earn up to $9 million in bonuses based on starts and innings. Payment for all of Padilla's incentives are deferred.

Jon Garland, in addition to having up to $3.525 million in bonuses based on innings pitched, has an even bigger incentive. If he pitches 190 innings in 2011, not only will he receive his $3.525 million in incentive bonuses, but will also have an option for 2012 vest at $8 million (assuming Garland is not on the disabled list this September for an arm injury). The option currently carries a buyout of $500,000 should Garland fail to pitch those innings and the Dodgers decline his services for next year, so that's an extra $7.5 million that Garland can earn.

For more details on the Dodgers performance bonuses and various other contract information, you can click on our payroll worksheet.

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In 2009

Wolf and Hudson made almost 7.5M in incentives (combined).

by bhsportsguy on Feb 14, 2011 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

what were broxtons incentives in 2010?

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

A complicated series series of events, based on either games finished or Rolaids relief rank. He achieved none of them.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

$500,000 for 68 games finished or 1st place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$400,000 for 64 games finished or 2nd place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$300,000 for 60 games finished or 3rd place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$200,000 for 56 games finished or 4th place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$100,000 for 53 games finished or 5th place in Rolaids Relief Man standings

Per Hernandez, “The escalators are non-cumulative, so if, say, Broxton finishes 64 games and is fourth in the Rolaids standings this year, he would get an extra $400,000 in 2011.”

The Rolaids Relief Man award (one award for each league) is based on a point a point system, calculated as follows:
2 points for a win
3 points for a save
(-2) points for a loss
(-2) points for a blown save
1 extra point for a “tough save” (entering the game with tying run on base)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

So what incentives

did the future father of my bastard child fail to meet last year?

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

He came up 15 PA short

$25,000 for 600 PA
$50,000 for 650 PA
$50,000 for 675 PA

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/30/1840626/dodgers-payroll-worksheet#ethier

Last year, the bonus was double too, because he would have received a bonus for 2010, and had that same amount added to his 2011 base salary. He has the same (single) incentives this year.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the gambling aspect

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

why didn’t the Yankees bunt a lot during the bloody sock game?

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

Because bunting is stupid

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but he was bleeding and all hurt.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The Yankees could spot that brand of marker from the dugout.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to go with…

“The huffers on the Yankees sniffed out the unmistakeable smell of Marks-a-lot”

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice!

I almost said Sharpie. It would have been a nice contrast.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m all for bunting on Monte Stratton every time.

Actually, that’s pretty much by criteria. Missing a leg, you get bunted on. I would say missing a hand or arm too, but Jim Abbott was an awesome wizard.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Always

bunt in Adam Dunn’s direction. Especially if he’s playing LF.

by kinbote on Feb 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

A Rafael Furcal specialty!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still stunned by

the fact Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris were both bunting in the 61 World Series.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Oops - 1960

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The Monte Stratton team

RHP – Monte Stratton – no leg
LHP – Jim Abbott – no arm
RF – Pete Gray – no arm
2nd – Jeff Kent – no heart
CF – Milton Bradley – no epidermis
LF – Tony Conigliario – no eye
DH – Carlos May – no thumb

Now I need help

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

1B John Kruk and 3B Mike Lowell — No testicle.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to be confused with...

1B Pedro Serrano — No… Marbles.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

1B – John Kruk – one nut

by BFDC on Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

OF - Walt Williams - no neck

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

RF – Babe Herman, no brain

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

Glendale High Schools most famous baseball player rejects this. He was awesome, great old guy.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That was his rep though.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I need his 54 Topps. has cool blue background.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

What was the occasion for his 1954 card?

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Babe’s first name was Floyd

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup - Babe Herman was not Billy Herman

Babe Herman could hit
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hermaba01.shtml

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Lifetime OPS+ of 141 but considered one of the worst defensive outfielders of his era if my memory is correct. When Vinny talks about the Bumbling Dodgers he’s talking about Babe.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah billy herman more of a cub great.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Padilla

Why are his listed in 2012? :)

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

Because that’s when they will be paid, if he earns them.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a sucker

I watched Garland’s Before the Bigs last night and became a fan of his. I don’t think I appreciated him the last time he was with us. Go Big Jon!

by kinbote on Feb 14, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

His mom seems nice but comes off as a stage parent.

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched it too!

a) They had an alarming amount of Prime Ticket footage of HS Garland
b) I didn’t realize John Jackson has worked for PT for so long!
c) Garland looked like a nerd in HS, as much of a nerd as a 6-foot dude with a 90-ish fastball can be :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

ha

Yeah, the glasses were a bit much. Just seems like a down-to-earth guy.

by kinbote on Feb 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember looking at his Buddy Holly glasses on his 97 Bowman card and being flabbergasted that this guy was a #1 pick.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So I assume the pic I posted was deleted for being too big? What are the parameters? Or was it a copyright violation or something? I don’t want to make that mistake again.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Post it again, but make sure to have a subject, TBLA policy, that M White enforces to the T

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the tricks of SB Nation is that you can click on the subject to remove the photo in case you need to minimize a photo very quickly.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

neeeeeeeeeeeeeerd alert

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

anyone have one of Maddux with the cubs, with glasses?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Not quite what I expected

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

nice stache

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He left that game early to get to his other job…as a bullfighter.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

and lover of wives left alone, as their husbands fought in the war. Then there was as a riot. A zoot suit riot

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

he does look like he should have

a rose in his mouth right there

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryne Sandberg’s teammates had mustaches for a reason.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 14, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone watched a Before the Bigs show

and said “what a jerk”?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea

That would be a fail on the part of the show, right.

BTW, same job, still trying to get into IT…they just come to me with questions all the time, or refuse to accept and implement new policy on how to do things.

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 14, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

“Before the Bigs: Navin R. Johnson”

by JonWeisman on Feb 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

We all know how he was born . . .

by kinbote on Feb 14, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I like when you have these payroll posts. you are basically saying “I work hard on this worksheet, now study it you ingrates!”

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Eric

loves his Payroll Worksheet, I envision him in the pre digital days walking around the office with reams of paper under his arm full of the formula’s he needs to make it happen.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine him writing the necessary equations on his dorm window at UCSD

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

If there is one thing that I learned from Social Network and A Beautiful Mind

its that smart people write on windows unlike the wrest of us plebeians.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

if I’m a director, a shot of just a whiteboard appearing anywhere in my movie is the scariest thing ever

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

When I was 12 or so, I used to take the daily MLB leaders from the newspaper and write out what they were projected to do for the season on a piece of paper.

Not every day, mind you, but every so often when I was board.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

how about when you were plank

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

My geekiest moment was Dec 5th, 1971 when I had the LA Times roster for the Rams game against New Oleans, my transistor radio on, and for some reason started marking the number of yards Willie Ellison had gained for each carry on the margin of the paper. By the end of the game it was 247 yards and a new record. It was the only time I can remember doing it.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

we are lucky to have you

as a kid (and today even, especially during boring meetings) I kept stats of a whole imaginary baseball league. Complete with uniforms, career stats, etc…

by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 14, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad news. The Giants failed to reach agreement with Elmer Dessens.

Was hoping he’d be in their bullpen (as much as their fans are probably hoping the Dodgers put Dana Eveland on their roster.) No offense to Elmer, who has been decent at times in the past. But still.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 14, 2011 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

He was actually surprisingly good with the Mets last year

(not a big sample size but still)… so as with Mota last year I should be careful what I wish for.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 14, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

And on that topic, a tweet from Rob Neyer
From the Dept of Headlines I Never Thought I Would See: “Dessens Deal Falls Through” http://bit.ly/fEzcnw

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 14, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm kind of surprised

that GA, Reed and Sherrill all achieved part of their contract incentives…I assume Anderson’s was simply for making the big league roster, but Johnson was injured practically all year and George really screwed the pooch. On the other hand, it warms my heart to know neither Ortiz or Nick Green got anywhere close to any extra money.

Bastards.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Anderson got his $25,000 for reaching 150 PA. He had 163 plate appearances.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at that last sentence.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

we must move forward

from our dark past.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Reed Johnson appeared in 102 games last season which seems like a ton for a bench guy.

by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been suprised

that he has not been mentioned in the LF mix.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

He signed a minor league deal with the Cubs

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

That many?

Hot damn…seemed like a lot less. I liked him…was disappointed things didn’t work out better for him here.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

He is the opposite of Thames

Good defender, little power, on base skills
versus
terrible defender, tons of power, no on base skills

However they both racked lefties in their own way before becoming a Dodger. The last two Dodgers who were signed with a rep of whacking lefties were Loretta and Johnson. Didn’t work out so well.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

At least Loretta

had one playoff moment. And he still thanks Matt Holliday for the opportunity to have it.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 14, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Incredulous question or punctuation typo?

He probably wasn’t as bad as I remember, but it seemed like every time I saw him come into a game I was watching on TV, he’d either cough up a lead or not get his situational LHB out…then again, he pitched way more against RHB than he should have.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

to my memory, he got a bad rep early, but he was actually fairly average the rest of my way

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

As does mine

I can’t remember things in a consistent manner, so past events become mostly incoherently written hyperbole. I liked him, was disappointed he underperformed in 2010 compared to 2009, and was not sad to see Ned not tender him a contract this offseason.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He got better, but he was still between poor to inadequate.

Fangraphs splits

His monthly best in was Sep/Oct when he posted an x-FIP of 4.28. Had he posted that for the entire year, he would have still been one of the lesser pitchers in the Dodger bullpen. A bit better than Ramon Troncoso and Dotel.

by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is the famous Dodgers son

amazing familiar don’t you think?

Also sounds like he’s a prospect.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

Read about him and the other “if his name was Smith” guy this weekend.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

that is where I first read it. I like the fact this one, is using his Dad’s number.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That gave it away: Steve Sax Jr.? :)

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

No

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, it’s Mr. Clean’s son. I was thrown off by the number clue.

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I would think it would be pretty cool if Jr. Gretzky wore 99 though.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

him and Leyland?

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The two Steves

Garvey and Boras.

Can a father be a son’s agent?

by bhsportsguy on Feb 14, 2011 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Garveys one of the few guys who could be his own grandfather!

by Gen3blue on Feb 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the incentives targeted well?

When Sherrill led in % of incentive achieved(or at least tied for lead)! Go figure.

by Gen3blue on Feb 14, 2011 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

good question

but I’m guessing these are agent driven

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

“performance” bonus is a bit of a misnomer… They’re not allowed to reward for stats, only things like plate appearances, innings [itched, games finished, etc. I’m sure Sherrill’s was for appearances, since they kept trotting him out. Would’ve been fine, if they only trotted him out against lefties, but that was not to be.

by Dave Pomerantz on Feb 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

After August 1

(since I looked this up the other day)

Sherrill faced 33 LHB and 23 RHB

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of great Dodgers offspring

I had thought the coupling of Drysdale/ Ann Meyers ( the only two athletes to have children who were in their respective hall of fame, sorry Nomar) would have produced quite an athlete, but alas I’ve heard nothing of Don Junior and he has to be well into his early 20’s by now.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

Say, what event did you swim?

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. They both have great smirks on their faces at the time too!

by BFDC on Feb 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I already bought tennis stock in the Graf/Agassi offspring.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Sasha Vujacic and sharapova

will produce some athletes. I remember when Serena Williams was dating LaVar Arrington, those would have been some big kids.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Machine and The Russian’s offspring will have great hair :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard

she was going to dump him now that he’s a Net

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think your lip reading skills need work

She was saying “Net,” not “Nyet.”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

hey

he can score 30 points a night if he wanted too, he’s just more concerned with winning :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

or scoring

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

As trigger-happy as Sasha is

kid comes to play every day, no matter what. Methinks the Lakers could use a dash of his intensity and sense of urgency in the near future.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Zing!

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Gives her more time to practice her tennis

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t she on the “I’m so hot, I don’t need tennis to pay for my lifestyle: I’ll just become an actress and star in Enrique Iglesias music videos” train that Anna Kournikova is the conductor for?

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought

real tennis players played not for the lifestyle but for the game itself. The match

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point

Game. Set. Match.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Anna K’s top ranking in the world in women’s singles was 8. That required some performing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

As I recall...

Kiki Vandeweghe’s parents were both top athletes.
Todd Zeile married an Olympic gymnast.
Matt Treanor and Misty May’s kids have hope.
Casey Daigle and Jennie Finch will presumably give us a quality submariner.
Bret Hedican is married to Kristi Yamaguchi. Kid should be able to skate.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone can

skate if you put them on the ice six hours a day for ten years

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Jayson Werth’s parents!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 14, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone from Royals Review did a bunch of analysis on the success of top 100 prospects.

Some interesting stuff:

There’s not much difference in success after the top 20 guys
70% of prospects fail.
Once you get below the top 20 the failure rate is closer to 80%
Pitchers are more likely to fail than hitters

Basically trade your prospects for good players unless they’re truly elite.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

Yea I read through that earlier but I still think to be successful today (without a massive budget) you have to get lucky with a couple cost-controlled guys that aren’t considered “elite”

by BFDC on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

But then again

you draft more pitchers because of the failure rate and of all the skills to project, hitting is the hardest.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 14, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

So out of Brandons top 200

we can expect 60 success stories:)

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned

is kind of following that idea except:
1. He not getting good players in return
2. He failed to notice his most “elite” position player in the last 15 years

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

2. He failed to notice his most "elite" position player in the last 15 years

Also known as the 6th best catcher in MLB according to MLB Network.

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Curious

Cocaine

PED?

I say yes, but thought I would ask…

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

I believe it is classified as a “drug of abuse” under the MLB joint drug agreement.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I get that -

what I was asking is – - do you think the use makes one a better baseball player?

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Cocaine as a PED?

Not sure…doubt it. Helluva drug? Fo sho.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Total speculation on my part

But I doubt it. I would lean heavily toward saying no PED

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think one would have had to:
1. Been a real baseball player
2. Tried Cocaine
3. Tried PED

to answer that question

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Science could work too

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Rats

can’t hit a curve ball

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially not when on cocaine :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a grooved fastball

G Scott said any Rat could hit that.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

spoken like a pitcher

Pitchers think that hitters don’t actually hit, pitchers think that the only thing that matters is if or not the pitcher makes a mistake

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

good hitters can hit good pitching, bad hitters can’t hit good pitching, but everyone can hit a mistake pitch.

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

though that’s super simplistic

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just thinking that. The rat’s eyes are red from all the cocaine use and he still cracked it.

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Just thinking of the Pirates of the late 70’s and some of the positive effects of early use of Cocaine

Energy
focus
visual accuity

not bad benefits until you cross the link into addict

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Well those Mets teams in the 80s were pretty good…

by BFDC on Feb 14, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just thinking

if Strawberry was on the juice, he might be able to enlighten us all.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Rock Raines

was kind of good if you like that new fangled stats like OB and SB success rates and other nonsense.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

For those who saw $20 parking signs at Motocross at Dodger Stadium

The Dodgers said parking for MLB will stay the same ($15) this year.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

Great Hispanic Lakers?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

So none?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Hispanic Basketball Stars might be a shorter pamphlet than Jewish Sports Legends.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the Gasol brothers speak Spanish….

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 14, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Chick Hearn

Spero Dedes is excellent…Myers is alright.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing I want to hear Meyers announce is his own funeral (on tape, of course)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This made me laugh. Thank you, kind sir.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Spero Dedes

is the greatest name I’ve never heard of.

Anyone with a first name of Spero is alright in my book. Good history with that name.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Dang

if he can do basketball play by play then he can do baseball. What are we waiting for, sign him up before the old man croaks and we are left with Mundane Monday and It’s Gone Stiener

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe he does college football as well and he’s got a very good voice and a natural talent for broadcasting so you might not be far off!

by LA Taco on Feb 14, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Roger Valdivieso gets work out of this. He is fun.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless I am reading TW's press release wrong

Press Release

A single destination where Lakers fans can find all locally-televised home and away games and a variety of new and original Lakers’ content featuring behind-the-scenes, personality and classic programming.

This is a big blow for Fox Sports and KCAL if I am reading this release correctly.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

and dashes hopes of any type of major windfall for a potential Dodger network (losing the Laker partnership)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

(not that there was a major windfall to be had)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, I don’t think even the Dodgers would have dreamed that they would be able to partner up with the Lakers on a network. The Lakers would be the big brother in that relationship. Clippers or hockey.

by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought

Sterling and McCourt would be an interesting pair. The Clippers would be easier to deal with and their rights fees would be less than the Lakers.

All kidding aside, the Dodgers made out great since Fox will now be very anxious to enter a deal now.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

yes – always nice when you find some accidental leverage

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

or

accidental cleavage

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

no matter what they say

its never an accident when you see cleavage

they know the effect, that shit is planned

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i have seen before a lady holding a kid, and the kid pulls the shirt down. hilarious.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s not exactly cleavage…which tends to be a wardrobe, or posture, or both, choice

but I see where you are going with that

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers / Dodgers

it was meant to be, two whacked out owners, one network. A reality show if there ever was one, DTS will sit in the McCourt box seat and heckle Kemp when he jogs to first after hitting a deep fly that hits the wall, while McCourt will sit courtside and hound on Kaman for going boating while not being able to play for months at a time.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I had always wondered

why FSW had the Lakers, Angels and Kings and FSW2 had the Dodgers, Clippers and Ducks…divvying up the teams for equal channel viewership, I suppose.

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Feb 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m working this story for Variety … and yes, it’s as big a deal as it appears.

by JonWeisman on Feb 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

next year will be the 35th season in a row that KCAL has broadcast the Lakers.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to think a 20 year deal for all non-National TV exclusive telecasts

Plus some playoff games is worth in the neighborhood of $50-60M a year so a $1B dollar revenue tag (I have no idea what they make now)

by bhsportsguy on Feb 14, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

everything about the 80s was at the same time awesome, and should never be repeated

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

including my teenage years

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

so if I understand correctly, Time Warner is trying to get into Comcast’s game and compete with Fox Sports?

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

FSWest have been producing these Spanish feeds. They have been doing most of the Laker and Clipper games this season and they were for Time Warner cable. Looks like they liked what they saw.

by Alex41592 on Feb 14, 2011 5:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Rod Woodson raider coach. staff getting nice.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

You mean the 2012 staff.

It’s going to hurt not playing fantasy football this year.

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

they are going to play. they probably already have a deal, just want to hijack the headlines for the summer.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Short season possible??

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Short season, aka the only way the Raiders don’t win at least 10 games this season.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize the 1982 NFL playoffs were under the NBA format, basically (8 teams in each conference).

They may have to do that again with, say, a 9 game season.

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

they’re at least two years away from a ten win season

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

haters unite!

so sorry that window slammed shut on norvell’s pock marked face down there!

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I freely acknowledge an upturn, but every team in the division is on the up, and the Chargers had a bit of a head start

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

a head start...

to choking in the playoffs!

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

playoffs are random and not a reflector of talent

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

You where supposed to make fun of the Chiefs

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

You downplayed their choking against the ravens!

In 2 years it will be the Raiders turn. The year after that the Broncos will win the super bowl behind Tim Tebows record breaking MVP performance.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He will be the first fullback to combine for 6 tds in super bowl history.

He will of course also double as TE, RB, Wild Horse QB and Jesus.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not see the Broncos on the up yet

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh, it's not a big stretch to think they'll be better than 3 wins

next season ;-)

especially with one more good draft… but I do see the whole division being better next year which means no easy wins for anyone.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

just make a PBJ

Best Jelly or Jam?

Chunky or Smooth

To me if it ain’t chunky it ain’t peanut butter but that is just my own taste. My wife will only eat Grape Jam, I’m a raspberrry person myself.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

i like all berry/grape jam or jelly dont care just want something sweet.

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

how was that croissant?

by delias man on Feb 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Fabulous. Butter croissants are so moist.

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that I haven't been surprised by greedy shortsightedness in the past

but if they don’t play it will be really stupid

The challenge to maintaining the dominant position is can you see past the end of your own nose? All empires fall, be they political or commercial, there was a time that boxing and horse racing were big in America. There was a time when Wang was the computer company to be reconned with…

If the NFL fails to split up 9 billion dollars happily, it may not kill them, but it will have been a foolish risk by all parties

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Wang

call back

DEC says WTH

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

The arcade fire won an award

and people are angry about it?

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by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

HOW U SPECK ME TO MAINTAIN HOLIER THAN THOU INDIE CRED if you, the establishment, goes and recognizes them as AWESUM?! GRAMMIES WTF

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Compared to Katy Perry and Lady Antebellum?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Lady Gaga is a beautifully unique sunflower

and should have won the universe

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by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Katy Perry went to school with one of my grad school mates. For some reason that buys her a pass. Lady Antebellum gets a pass for being country, which is the most awesome of genres

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And Eminem is still alive? Jesus.

We’re grading on a curve here.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Lady Antebellum is everything I hate about country

and is why I call it pop. I’m wrong, but she isn’t helping.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Pop=rock, r&b, country, anything not classical

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Pop

ular music.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

When I think pop I think NSync

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

O course

even the beatles where at one point pop. Either way, Lady Antebellum is just so… generic country to me. Not necessarily bad, but I see nothing special about her little diddy.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I find the music boring

but even worse I find the name abhorent and objectionable

Rather than Lady Antebellum, maybe they should cal themselves" Lady Back When Owning People Was Cool"

The celebration of that old bigoted society makes me want to spit

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to celebrate your heritage

even if it sucks.

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by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I call bullshit on that

Plenty of ways to celebrate your heritage without glorifying, by name, the period of the greatest human sin (and that is saying something) in this country’s history

Call yourself my Lady My Grandma’s Biscuits – that’s your heritage too Rhett Butler

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually don't disagree with you

I’m more attempting to poorly lampoon the celebration of ones heritage blindly.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

but then the european golf tour would make you apologize on twitter.

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You can tell an appology is real if it happens on twitter – that means you are really really serious

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

especially if it’s a Keith Hernandez style apology. “I’m sorry if I offended anyone, but…”

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

it was people being pissed that an “indie” band that “No one” has ever heard of won. Mind you they are known by everyone at this point.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It was weird that they won best album but not best alternative album though.

by Nolij on Feb 14, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It is weird the things that people get pissed at

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 14, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

was it for Neon Bible? Did that come out this year?

by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

the eligibility

is from sept 1st 2009 to sep 30 2010. Talk about confusing.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Album of the fiscal year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s a 13 month fiscal!!!

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

forgive him

he works for the government

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

for 'the suburbs'

which is supposedly not even their best album. this happens when everyone is late to the party. see: outkast getting love for speakerbox which was awful because everyone wasnt paying attention for southerplayeristick… through stankonia.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 14, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I had no idea who they were

I thought you were talking about a video game

by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't count

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Eddie Collins

Jesus, this guy was was the TRUE God of Walks.

1499 BB/286 K

by silverwidow on Feb 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

he’s only 1000+ walks short of the record

The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.

by G.Scott on Feb 14, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Andre Dawson hit 49 home runs and had only an OBP of 330 in 1987

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Tony Batista 2000: 31 home runs, .270 on base.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but Tony Batista didn't win mvp

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, thought we were just talking about years that ruled.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

When you put it that way

that is kind of awesome. Go big or go home indeed.

I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY

by nolander on Feb 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

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