A Look At Dodger Contract Incentives
Now that Hong-Chih Kuo and James Loney have finalized their contracts for 2011, the Dodgers have 20 players signed to contracts this season for a total of $92.05 million. Ten of the 20 Dodgers under contract have performance bonuses in their contract that could raise that total even higher.
Last season, the Dodgers had 19 players on the major league roster who had performance bonuses built in to their contracts:
| Dodgers 2010 Contract Incentives | ||
|---|---|---|
| Player | Potential | Achieved |
| Ramon Ortiz | $1,050,000 | $0 |
| Russ Ortiz | $1,050,000 | $0 |
| Rafael Furcal | $1,000,000 | ??? |
| Vicente Padilla | $1,000,000 | $0 |
| Jamey Carroll | $525,000 | $200,000 |
| Casey Blake | $500,000 | $250,000 |
| Jonthan Broxton | $500,000 | $0 |
| Matt Kemp | $300,000 | $150,000 |
| Reed Johnson | $250,000 | $125,000 |
| Andre Ethier | $250,000 | $0 |
| Ronnie Belliard | $250,000 | $0 |
| Garret Anderson | $200,000 | $25,000 |
| Hong-Chih Kuo | $150,000 | $25,000 |
| George Sherrill | $150,000 | $75,000 |
| Jason Repko | $137,500 | $0 |
| Brad Ausmus | $100,000 | $0 |
| Russell Martin | $100,000 | $0 |
| Jeff Weaver | $100,000 | $0 |
| Nick Green | $100,000 | $0 |
| Totals | $7,712,500 | $850,000* |
The one very vague incentive is for Rafael Furcal, who receives $1 million annually for "maintaining a core strengthening program to keep his back healthy." That's not nearly as easy to track as, say, plate appearances or games pitched, so it's hard to say with confidence how much of that bonus Furcal actually earned in 2010. He did spend 28 days on the disabled list last year with a low back strain, so it's very likely Furcal didn't receive all of that $1 million bonus.
But for the incentives we can track, players on the 2010 Dodgers earned $850,000 of a possible $6,712,500 in performance bonuses, or 12.7%. Most of those bonuses were paid in 2010, but Matt Kemp's $150,000 for reaching 650 plate appearances in 2010 was added to his base salary in 2011, increasing it from $6.95 million to $7.1 million this season. In fact, at 668 plate appearances, Kemp finished seven plate appearances shy of another $150,000 bonus.
Here's a summary of contract incentives for the 2011 Dodgers:
| Dodgers 2011 Contract Incentives | ||
|---|---|---|
| Player | 2011 | 2012 |
| Vicente Padilla | $9,000,000 | |
| Jon Garland |
$2,525,000 | $1,000,000 |
| Rafael Furcal | $1,000,000 | $1,300,000 |
| Marcus Thames |
$800,000 | |
| Hong-Chih Kuo | $700,000 | |
| Jamey Carroll | $525,000 | |
| Casey Blake | $500,000 | |
| Hiroki Kuroda |
$500,000 | |
| Jay Gibbons |
$150,000 | |
| Andre Ethier | $125,000 | |
| Totals | $6,825,000 | $11,300,000 |
That is a boatload of potential contract bonuses in 2011, most of which are in Vicente Padilla's low-base, heavily incentive-laden contract. Padilla has a base salary of $2 million, and can earn up to $6.8 million in relief bonuses, based on both games pitched in relief and games finished. He can also earn up to $9 million in bonuses based on starts and innings. Payment for all of Padilla's incentives are deferred.
Jon Garland, in addition to having up to $3.525 million in bonuses based on innings pitched, has an even bigger incentive. If he pitches 190 innings in 2011, not only will he receive his $3.525 million in incentive bonuses, but will also have an option for 2012 vest at $8 million (assuming Garland is not on the disabled list this September for an arm injury). The option currently carries a buyout of $500,000 should Garland fail to pitch those innings and the Dodgers decline his services for next year, so that's an extra $7.5 million that Garland can earn.
For more details on the Dodgers performance bonuses and various other contract information, you can click on our payroll worksheet.
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A complicated series series of events, based on either games finished or Rolaids relief rank. He achieved none of them.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
$500,000 for 68 games finished or 1st place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$400,000 for 64 games finished or 2nd place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$300,000 for 60 games finished or 3rd place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$200,000 for 56 games finished or 4th place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
$100,000 for 53 games finished or 5th place in Rolaids Relief Man standings
Per Hernandez, “The escalators are non-cumulative, so if, say, Broxton finishes 64 games and is fourth in the Rolaids standings this year, he would get an extra $400,000 in 2011.”
The Rolaids Relief Man award (one award for each league) is based on a point a point system, calculated as follows:
2 points for a win
3 points for a save
(-2) points for a loss
(-2) points for a blown save
1 extra point for a “tough save” (entering the game with tying run on base)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
He came up 15 PA short
$25,000 for 600 PA
$50,000 for 650 PA
$50,000 for 675 PA
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/30/1840626/dodgers-payroll-worksheet#ethier
Last year, the bonus was double too, because he would have received a bonus for 2010, and had that same amount added to his 2011 base salary. He has the same (single) incentives this year.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
The Yankees could spot that brand of marker from the dugout.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to go with…
“The huffers on the Yankees sniffed out the unmistakeable smell of Marks-a-lot”
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Nice!
I almost said Sharpie. It would have been a nice contrast.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m all for bunting on Monte Stratton every time.
Actually, that’s pretty much by criteria. Missing a leg, you get bunted on. I would say missing a hand or arm too, but Jim Abbott was an awesome wizard.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'm still stunned by
the fact Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris were both bunting in the 61 World Series.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
The Monte Stratton team
RHP – Monte Stratton – no leg
LHP – Jim Abbott – no arm
RF – Pete Gray – no arm
2nd – Jeff Kent – no heart
CF – Milton Bradley – no epidermis
LF – Tony Conigliario – no eye
DH – Carlos May – no thumb
Now I need help
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 14, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
OF - Walt Williams - no neck
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Hey
Glendale High Schools most famous baseball player rejects this. He was awesome, great old guy.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
What was the occasion for his 1954 card?
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yup - Babe Herman was not Billy Herman
Babe Herman could hit
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hermaba01.shtml
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Because that’s when they will be paid, if he earns them.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a sucker
I watched Garland’s Before the Bigs last night and became a fan of his. I don’t think I appreciated him the last time he was with us. Go Big Jon!
I watched it too!
a) They had an alarming amount of Prime Ticket footage of HS Garland
b) I didn’t realize John Jackson has worked for PT for so long!
c) Garland looked like a nerd in HS, as much of a nerd as a 6-foot dude with a 90-ish fastball can be :)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I remember looking at his Buddy Holly glasses on his 97 Bowman card and being flabbergasted that this guy was a #1 pick.
So I assume the pic I posted was deleted for being too big? What are the parameters? Or was it a copyright violation or something? I don’t want to make that mistake again.
Post it again, but make sure to have a subject, TBLA policy, that M White enforces to the T
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
neeeeeeeeeeeeeerd alert
I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY
hahaha
anyone have one of Maddux with the cubs, with glasses?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
nice stache
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
He left that game early to get to his other job…as a bullfighter.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
and lover of wives left alone, as their husbands fought in the war. Then there was as a riot. A zoot suit riot
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
he does look like he should have
a rose in his mouth right there
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Has anyone watched a Before the Bigs show
and said “what a jerk”?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Yea
That would be a fail on the part of the show, right.
BTW, same job, still trying to get into IT…they just come to me with questions all the time, or refuse to accept and implement new policy on how to do things.
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 14, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I like when you have these payroll posts. you are basically saying “I work hard on this worksheet, now study it you ingrates!”
Eric
loves his Payroll Worksheet, I envision him in the pre digital days walking around the office with reams of paper under his arm full of the formula’s he needs to make it happen.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I imagine him writing the necessary equations on his dorm window at UCSD
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
If there is one thing that I learned from Social Network and A Beautiful Mind
its that smart people write on windows unlike the wrest of us plebeians.
I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY
if I’m a director, a shot of just a whiteboard appearing anywhere in my movie is the scariest thing ever
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
When I was 12 or so, I used to take the daily MLB leaders from the newspaper and write out what they were projected to do for the season on a piece of paper.
Not every day, mind you, but every so often when I was board.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
My geekiest moment was Dec 5th, 1971 when I had the LA Times roster for the Rams game against New Oleans, my transistor radio on, and for some reason started marking the number of yards Willie Ellison had gained for each carry on the margin of the paper. By the end of the game it was 247 yards and a new record. It was the only time I can remember doing it.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
we are lucky to have you
as a kid (and today even, especially during boring meetings) I kept stats of a whole imaginary baseball league. Complete with uniforms, career stats, etc…
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 14, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Bad news. The Giants failed to reach agreement with Elmer Dessens.
Was hoping he’d be in their bullpen (as much as their fans are probably hoping the Dodgers put Dana Eveland on their roster.) No offense to Elmer, who has been decent at times in the past. But still.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
He was actually surprisingly good with the Mets last year
(not a big sample size but still)… so as with Mota last year I should be careful what I wish for.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And on that topic, a tweet from Rob Neyer
From the Dept of Headlines I Never Thought I Would See: “Dessens Deal Falls Through” http://bit.ly/fEzcnw
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm kind of surprised
that GA, Reed and Sherrill all achieved part of their contract incentives…I assume Anderson’s was simply for making the big league roster, but Johnson was injured practically all year and George really screwed the pooch. On the other hand, it warms my heart to know neither Ortiz or Nick Green got anywhere close to any extra money.
…
Bastards.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Anderson got his $25,000 for reaching 150 PA. He had 163 plate appearances.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at that last sentence.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
we must move forward
from our dark past.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Reed Johnson appeared in 102 games last season which seems like a ton for a bench guy.
by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I've been suprised
that he has not been mentioned in the LF mix.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
He signed a minor league deal with the Cubs
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
That many?
Hot damn…seemed like a lot less. I liked him…was disappointed things didn’t work out better for him here.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
He is the opposite of Thames
Good defender, little power, on base skills
versus
terrible defender, tons of power, no on base skills
However they both racked lefties in their own way before becoming a Dodger. The last two Dodgers who were signed with a rep of whacking lefties were Loretta and Johnson. Didn’t work out so well.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
At least Loretta
had one playoff moment. And he still thanks Matt Holliday for the opportunity to have it.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Incredulous question or punctuation typo?
He probably wasn’t as bad as I remember, but it seemed like every time I saw him come into a game I was watching on TV, he’d either cough up a lead or not get his situational LHB out…then again, he pitched way more against RHB than he should have.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
to my memory, he got a bad rep early, but he was actually fairly average the rest of my way
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
As does mine
I can’t remember things in a consistent manner, so past events become mostly incoherently written hyperbole. I liked him, was disappointed he underperformed in 2010 compared to 2009, and was not sad to see Ned not tender him a contract this offseason.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
He got better, but he was still between poor to inadequate.
His monthly best in was Sep/Oct when he posted an x-FIP of 4.28. Had he posted that for the entire year, he would have still been one of the lesser pitchers in the Dodger bullpen. A bit better than Ramon Troncoso and Dotel.
by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Who is the famous Dodgers son

amazing familiar don’t you think?
Also sounds like he’s a prospect.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Read about him and the other “if his name was Smith” guy this weekend.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
that is where I first read it. I like the fact this one, is using his Dad’s number.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I know this one. The doctor’s a woman.
by kinbote on Feb 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Are the incentives targeted well?
When Sherrill led in % of incentive achieved(or at least tied for lead)! Go figure.
good question
but I’m guessing these are agent driven
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
“performance” bonus is a bit of a misnomer… They’re not allowed to reward for stats, only things like plate appearances, innings [itched, games finished, etc. I’m sure Sherrill’s was for appearances, since they kept trotting him out. Would’ve been fine, if they only trotted him out against lefties, but that was not to be.
by Dave Pomerantz on Feb 14, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
After August 1
(since I looked this up the other day)
Sherrill faced 33 LHB and 23 RHB
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of great Dodgers offspring
I had thought the coupling of Drysdale/ Ann Meyers ( the only two athletes to have children who were in their respective hall of fame, sorry Nomar) would have produced quite an athlete, but alas I’ve heard nothing of Don Junior and he has to be well into his early 20’s by now.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Jake Taylor and Lynn Wells' kid never amounted to anything either
And they were both world class athletes.
by BFDC on Feb 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Best angry conversation ever while smiling and shaking hands
“Stay away from her, Jake.”
“Suck my dick”
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
I already bought tennis stock in the Graf/Agassi offspring.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Sasha Vujacic and sharapova
will produce some athletes. I remember when Serena Williams was dating LaVar Arrington, those would have been some big kids.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
The Machine and The Russian’s offspring will have great hair :)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
I heard
she was going to dump him now that he’s a Net
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I think your lip reading skills need work
She was saying “Net,” not “Nyet.”
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hey
he can score 30 points a night if he wanted too, he’s just more concerned with winning :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
As trigger-happy as Sasha is
kid comes to play every day, no matter what. Methinks the Lakers could use a dash of his intensity and sense of urgency in the near future.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
As trigger-happy as Sasha is
Too bad for Sharapova.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Gives her more time to practice her tennis
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Isn’t she on the “I’m so hot, I don’t need tennis to pay for my lifestyle: I’ll just become an actress and star in Enrique Iglesias music videos” train that Anna Kournikova is the conductor for?
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
I thought
real tennis players played not for the lifestyle but for the game itself. The match
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Sharapova has actually performed on the court
Something Anna K never did
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
As I recall...
Kiki Vandeweghe’s parents were both top athletes.
Todd Zeile married an Olympic gymnast.
Matt Treanor and Misty May’s kids have hope.
Casey Daigle and Jennie Finch will presumably give us a quality submariner.
Bret Hedican is married to Kristi Yamaguchi. Kid should be able to skate.
Anyone can
skate if you put them on the ice six hours a day for ten years
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Someone from Royals Review did a bunch of analysis on the success of top 100 prospects.
Some interesting stuff:
There’s not much difference in success after the top 20 guys
70% of prospects fail.
Once you get below the top 20 the failure rate is closer to 80%
Pitchers are more likely to fail than hitters
Basically trade your prospects for good players unless they’re truly elite.
@andrewngrant
Yea I read through that earlier but I still think to be successful today (without a massive budget) you have to get lucky with a couple cost-controlled guys that aren’t considered “elite”
But then again
you draft more pitchers because of the failure rate and of all the skills to project, hitting is the hardest.
So out of Brandons top 200
we can expect 60 success stories:)
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Ned
is kind of following that idea except:
1. He not getting good players in return
2. He failed to notice his most “elite” position player in the last 15 years
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I believe it is classified as a “drug of abuse” under the MLB joint drug agreement.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
I get that -
what I was asking is – - do you think the use makes one a better baseball player?
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Cocaine as a PED?
Not sure…doubt it. Helluva drug? Fo sho.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Total speculation on my part
But I doubt it. I would lean heavily toward saying no PED
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think one would have had to:
1. Been a real baseball player
2. Tried Cocaine
3. Tried PED
to answer that question
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Rats
can’t hit a curve ball
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
That was a grooved fastball
G Scott said any Rat could hit that.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
spoken like a pitcher
Pitchers think that hitters don’t actually hit, pitchers think that the only thing that matters is if or not the pitcher makes a mistake
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Just thinking of the Pirates of the late 70’s and some of the positive effects of early use of Cocaine
Energy
focus
visual accuity
not bad benefits until you cross the link into addict
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was just thinking
if Strawberry was on the juice, he might be able to enlighten us all.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Rock Raines
was kind of good if you like that new fangled stats like OB and SB success rates and other nonsense.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
For those who saw $20 parking signs at Motocross at Dodger Stadium
The Dodgers said parking for MLB will stay the same ($15) this year.
If you don't like Joel Meyers
but still wanted to watch the Lakers, they reached a 20-year deal with Time Warner Cable to be a part of a Spanish-language regional sports network, the first of its kind in the US.
Great Hispanic Basketball Stars might be a shorter pamphlet than Jewish Sports Legends.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
I miss Chick Hearn
Spero Dedes is excellent…Myers is alright.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
The only thing I want to hear Meyers announce is his own funeral (on tape, of course)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Spero Dedes
is the greatest name I’ve never heard of.
Anyone with a first name of Spero is alright in my book. Good history with that name.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Dang
if he can do basketball play by play then he can do baseball. What are we waiting for, sign him up before the old man croaks and we are left with Mundane Monday and It’s Gone Stiener
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Unless I am reading TW's press release wrong
A single destination where Lakers fans can find all locally-televised home and away games and a variety of new and original Lakers’ content featuring behind-the-scenes, personality and classic programming.
This is a big blow for Fox Sports and KCAL if I am reading this release correctly.
and dashes hopes of any type of major windfall for a potential Dodger network (losing the Laker partnership)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
(not that there was a major windfall to be had)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Ya, I don’t think even the Dodgers would have dreamed that they would be able to partner up with the Lakers on a network. The Lakers would be the big brother in that relationship. Clippers or hockey.
by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I always thought
Sterling and McCourt would be an interesting pair. The Clippers would be easier to deal with and their rights fees would be less than the Lakers.
All kidding aside, the Dodgers made out great since Fox will now be very anxious to enter a deal now.
yes – always nice when you find some accidental leverage
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
no matter what they say
its never an accident when you see cleavage
they know the effect, that shit is planned
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
that’s not exactly cleavage…which tends to be a wardrobe, or posture, or both, choice
but I see where you are going with that
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Clippers / Dodgers
it was meant to be, two whacked out owners, one network. A reality show if there ever was one, DTS will sit in the McCourt box seat and heckle Kemp when he jogs to first after hitting a deep fly that hits the wall, while McCourt will sit courtside and hound on Kaman for going boating while not being able to play for months at a time.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I had always wondered
why FSW had the Lakers, Angels and Kings and FSW2 had the Dodgers, Clippers and Ducks…divvying up the teams for equal channel viewership, I suppose.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
next year will be the 35th season in a row that KCAL has broadcast the Lakers.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
I have to think a 20 year deal for all non-National TV exclusive telecasts
Plus some playoff games is worth in the neighborhood of $50-60M a year so a $1B dollar revenue tag (I have no idea what they make now)
Here’s an old Channel 9 Lakers commercial from 1988.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
everything about the 80s was at the same time awesome, and should never be repeated
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
so if I understand correctly, Time Warner is trying to get into Comcast’s game and compete with Fox Sports?
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
FSWest have been producing these Spanish feeds. They have been doing most of the Laker and Clipper games this season and they were for Time Warner cable. Looks like they liked what they saw.
by Alex41592 on Feb 14, 2011 5:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
they are going to play. they probably already have a deal, just want to hijack the headlines for the summer.
Short season, aka the only way the Raiders don’t win at least 10 games this season.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 14, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
they’re at least two years away from a ten win season
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I freely acknowledge an upturn, but every team in the division is on the up, and the Chargers had a bit of a head start
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
a head start...
to choking in the playoffs!
I'M A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE TRIUMPHANTLY RAGING AGAINST THE TIDE OF CONFORMITY
playoffs are random and not a reflector of talent
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
You where supposed to make fun of the Chiefs
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You downplayed their choking against the ravens!
In 2 years it will be the Raiders turn. The year after that the Broncos will win the super bowl behind Tim Tebows record breaking MVP performance.
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Tim Tebow will break records at Fullback?
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
He will be the first fullback to combine for 6 tds in super bowl history.
He will of course also double as TE, RB, Wild Horse QB and Jesus.
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Uh, it's not a big stretch to think they'll be better than 3 wins
next season ;-)
especially with one more good draft… but I do see the whole division being better next year which means no easy wins for anyone.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
just make a PBJ
Best Jelly or Jam?
Chunky or Smooth
To me if it ain’t chunky it ain’t peanut butter but that is just my own taste. My wife will only eat Grape Jam, I’m a raspberrry person myself.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Not that I haven't been surprised by greedy shortsightedness in the past
but if they don’t play it will be really stupid
The challenge to maintaining the dominant position is can you see past the end of your own nose? All empires fall, be they political or commercial, there was a time that boxing and horse racing were big in America. There was a time when Wang was the computer company to be reconned with…
If the NFL fails to split up 9 billion dollars happily, it may not kill them, but it will have been a foolish risk by all parties
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Wang
call back
DEC says WTH
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
The arcade fire won an award
and people are angry about it?
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HOW U SPECK ME TO MAINTAIN HOLIER THAN THOU INDIE CRED if you, the establishment, goes and recognizes them as AWESUM?! GRAMMIES WTF
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Also Arcade Fire are bad at making music
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Compared to Katy Perry and Lady Antebellum?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Lady Gaga is a beautifully unique sunflower
and should have won the universe
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Katy Perry went to school with one of my grad school mates. For some reason that buys her a pass. Lady Antebellum gets a pass for being country, which is the most awesome of genres
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
And Eminem is still alive? Jesus.
We’re grading on a curve here.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Lady Antebellum is everything I hate about country
and is why I call it pop. I’m wrong, but she isn’t helping.
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Pop=rock, r&b, country, anything not classical
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Pop
ular music.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
When I think pop I think NSync
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O course
even the beatles where at one point pop. Either way, Lady Antebellum is just so… generic country to me. Not necessarily bad, but I see nothing special about her little diddy.
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I find the music boring
but even worse I find the name abhorent and objectionable
Rather than Lady Antebellum, maybe they should cal themselves" Lady Back When Owning People Was Cool"
The celebration of that old bigoted society makes me want to spit
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
You have to celebrate your heritage
even if it sucks.
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I call bullshit on that
Plenty of ways to celebrate your heritage without glorifying, by name, the period of the greatest human sin (and that is saying something) in this country’s history
Call yourself my Lady My Grandma’s Biscuits – that’s your heritage too Rhett Butler
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
I actually don't disagree with you
I’m more attempting to poorly lampoon the celebration of ones heritage blindly.
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but then the european golf tour would make you apologize on twitter.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
You can tell an appology is real if it happens on twitter – that means you are really really serious
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
it was people being pissed that an “indie” band that “No one” has ever heard of won. Mind you they are known by everyone at this point.
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It is weird the things that people get pissed at
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 14, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 14, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
was it for Neon Bible? Did that come out this year?
by Josie Becker on Feb 14, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
the eligibility
is from sept 1st 2009 to sep 30 2010. Talk about confusing.
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Album of the fiscal year.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
forgive him
he works for the government
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
for 'the suburbs'
which is supposedly not even their best album. this happens when everyone is late to the party. see: outkast getting love for speakerbox which was awful because everyone wasnt paying attention for southerplayeristick… through stankonia.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 14, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
I had no idea who they were
I thought you were talking about a video game
by Michael White on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
You don't count
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Andre Dawson hit 49 home runs and had only an OBP of 330 in 1987
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Tony Batista 2000: 31 home runs, .270 on base.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but Tony Batista didn't win mvp
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Ah, thought we were just talking about years that ruled.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
When you put it that way
that is kind of awesome. Go big or go home indeed.
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