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Another Prospect List - Phil Gurnee takes his hacks

 

Rank Hitters Rank Pitchers
1 Jerry Sands 1 Rubby  DeLaRosa
2 Trayvon Robinson 2 Allen Webster
3 Dee Gordon 3 Zach Lee
4 Jonathan Garcia 4 Kenley Jansen
5 Brian Cavazos-Galvez 5 Scott Elbert
6 Kyle Russell 6 Aaron Miller
7 Jake Lemmerman 7 Chris Withrow
8 Leon Landry 8 Ethan Martin
9 James Baldwin 9 Nathan Eovaldi
10 Pedro Baez 10 Josh Lindblom
11 Ivan DeJesus 11 Garrett Gould
12 Joc Pederson 12 Mathew MaGill
13 Russell Michell 13 Ralston Cash
14 Tony Delmonico 14 Javier Solano
15 Blake Smith 15 Jon Link

I'm sure Zach Lee is everything we hope him to be, but I still want to see him pitch before making him the top prospect. I like to break up the hitters and pitchers since the jobs are so different. Maybe the first time so many Rookie League hitters made it into my top ten hitters list, but that is as much a failure of our pre 2010 draft hitters to impress me as it is them.    I honestly think we will be lucky to get two full time position players out of this group unless that 2010 class steps up.  Still like our pitching, I can see careers for all of them in some way.

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As usual I seem to agree with most everything you say. If anything, I would push Dee Gordon down even a bit farther. That may be unfair because I haven’t seen him play and I’m no expert on rating prospects. It is just based on how many of this type of player I have rooted for over the years an how few have had much impact. Speedy SSs and centerfielder types like Roger Cedeno and Tom Goodwin rarely seem to do much in the majors. Of course a few guys do well but they almost have to hit a career .300 or have special OBP or power like Lou Brock or Ralph Garr. And come to think of it I think both those guys had frames sig. bigger than Gordon.

by Gen3blue on Feb 18, 2011 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

Cool

I have to study this before I comment further. I do like the idea of separating the hitters and pitchers.

by kinbote on Feb 18, 2011 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

I counted up the position players. You have 8 OF, 4 IF, 1 C, and 2 ?s (Sands & Mitchell). On the pitching side, I’m a little concerned we only have 2 LHs, but clearly the pitching side is superior to the hitters (as much as it’s possible to project these things).

I’m interested in some of our post-hype guys like Russell, Baez, Lindblom, & Elbert. On both sides, we have an abundance of potential, not necessarily in the form of raw physical tools, but more like individual tools that bear watching. I’ve always been excited by following our system, but I really do see an uptick in the talent over the previous couple of years. With expiring contracts, uncertain ownership, and a core that seems to have one last chance to strike gold, I think this is a crucial year for our minor leaguers.

by kinbote on Feb 18, 2011 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

nice job

Hitters look good..i would drop Russell down a few pegs and push up IVD2 a few..
Pitchers..first 4 look good..Elbert appears to be RP but it is hard to see him at #5 given command issues..i’ d drop him below Withrow til he proves he has it together.
I would push Martin down and Gould up..
Wilborn would make my top 15 pitcher list..

by coloblue on Feb 18, 2011 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

Russell did enough for me at AA after he got orientated that I just don’t want to move him yet.

I’m drinking the Elbert command kool aid from the AFL. His only chink has been command, to be honest if Don Mattingly had not looked into my eyes and told all the good things he saw in Elbert this fall, he would have been moved down, but I was swayed by the confidence of Donnie in a guy who I think really needs his manager in his corner.

I want Gould to pitch in a full league, see how his stamina holds up and if his velocity can get back a few MPH. I moved Martin as far down as I could for a guy who was a number one pick just two years ago.

Wilborn almost knocked off Link. If Solana was not 20 he would have knocked him off but I’m a sucker for 20 year olds getting guys out in AA.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 18, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
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