2011 Dodgers Player Profile: Ronald Belisario, King Of The Restricted List
After two consecutive seasons of reporting late to spring training because of visa problems, Ronald Belisario has made it a hat trick in 2011 by failing to report on the first day of camp on Wednesday. Last season, Belisario was so late -- 35 days late, to be exact -- that he was placed on the restricted list to begin the season. This year, Belisario would be lucky if that was his fate.
Belisario was placed on the restricted last July for what were termed "personal reasons" at the time by the Dodgers. Dylan Hernandez and Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times reported a few days later that Belisario was undergoing substance abuse treatment, which was also mentioned by Ken Gurnick of MLB.com in his spring training preview. Whatever the reason for Belisario's absence, the latest check mark on an already full dance card for the reliever, it appears that reason has struck again for the reliever, as he is still stuck in Venezuela, and doesn't figure to return anytime soon. From Tony Jackson of ESPN LA:
"I'm just not very optimistic," said Paul Kinzer, Belisario's Atlanta-based agent. "He just has a lot of things he needs to get straightened out. Right now, I'm not optimistic for him [returning] for the whole season."
If Belisario does somehow show up to pitch for the Dodgers this season, just what can we expect on the mound? This shouldn't come as a surprise, but Belisario is somewhere in between the pitcher with the 2.04 ERA in 2009 and the one with the 5.04 ERA in 2010. What does look like an outlier is Belisario's strikeout rate from 2009, which was much higher than the rest of his career as a reliever.
| Ronald Belisario Strikeout Rates | ||||
| Year | Lg | Batters Faced | Strikeouts | K% |
| 2007 | A+/AA | 267 | 40 | 14.98% |
| 2008 | AA | 254 | 36 | 14.17% |
| 2009 | MLB | 299 | 64 | 21.40% |
| 2010 | MLB | 233 | 38 | 16.31% |
Belisario pitched very well in the Venezuelan Winter League this offseason. He was the closer for Bravos de Margarita, and picked up 14 saves and a 1.00 ERA in 18 innings, walking four while striking out 15.
Trivia
If the picture in last year's Dodgers media guide is representative (and not just a one-time occurrence), Belisario bowls left-handed.
Contract Status
Belisario is still under team control this season, with one year, 133 days of service time. He could have had a shot at being arbitration eligible next winter as a "super two," provided he was among the top 17% of those with between two and three years service time, but that now seems highly unlikely. The service time cutoff for super twos this season was two years, 122 days, which was the lowest number in five years.
Belisario is also out of options, so the Dodgers can't send him to the minors without exposing him to waivers. Once Belisario is 10 days late, on February 26, they can place him on the restricted list, which would remove him from the 40-man roster.
Stats
| Year | Age | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP | x-FIP | tERA | ERA+ |
| 2008 (AA) |
25 | 57.0 | 3.95 | 5.68 | 4.74 | ||||
| 2009 |
26 | 70.2 | 3.69 | 8.15 | 2.04 | 3.51 | 3.80 | 3.48 | 197 |
| 2010 | 27 | 55.1 | 3.09 | 6.18 | 5.04 | 4.31 | 3.81 | 4.36 | 76 |
| 2011 Projections - Age 28 Season | |||||||||
| Year | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP | ||||
| Bill James | 57.0 | 3.79 | 6.79 | 4.11 | 4.19 | ||||
| Marcel | 60.0 | 3.30 | 7.20 | 3.75 | 4.03 | ||||
| Baseball HQ | 65.0 | 3.46 | 6.51 | 3.88 | |||||
| ZiPS | 62.2 | 3.73 | 6.89 | 4.16 | |||||
2011 Outlook
I hear Venezuela is beautiful in the summer.
UPDATE: The Belisario situation took another turn, according to Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times:
Ronald Belisario told a Venezuelan newspaper that he lost his passport and that he should be able to report to to camp soon after obtaining a new one.
But that's news to Belisario’s agent, Paul Kinzer, who said on Wednesday that his client will probably miss the entire season because of his inability to gain legal entry into the United States.
"That would be news to me," Kinzer said. "I hope that's true."
Belisario then put on a pair of Bad Idea Jeans:
He said he hasn't called the Dodgers because he will resolve the situation on his own.
Pick up the phone, Ronald. C'mon.
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Is it typical that a person cannot acquire a visa for a DUI?
Or is it more likely that something else happened that has been kept secret?
It’s almost certainly something else. He already got a visa last year with his DUI arrest. He plead guilty to a lesser charge.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
OT: But holy crap it's squalling like crazy here in SF
/builds ark
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Cloudy, windy, 61 Degrees. Nashville. FML
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Also: Who's Ronald Belisario? Was he some sort of pitcher for us at one time?
/short memory
/moves on
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Venezuela
is not half as beautiful as Puerto Vallarta, according to my girlfriend…and let’s just say I’m skeptical of her viewpoint.
In any case, Belisario’s latest visa problem poses yet another bullpen conundrum for D2x to ponder in ST. I saw in the last post someone had the idea of using Mahay as the LOOGY and giving Elbert Ronald’s spot…I kinda like that. In that situation, the pen would be:
Broxton
Kuo
Padilla
Guerrier
Hawksworth
Elbert
Mahay
Not a bad mix of lefties and righties, and quite a few pitchers that could serve multiple roles as short/long relief or swingmen.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
And if Hawk fails to impress in ST
you can always replace him with Jansen or Troncoso and be no worse off.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Are they allowed to if it is just a work visa for a specified time?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Excellent questions, both. I think Phil has it right, but I’m not sure.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
last i checked, nobody really leaves when their VISA expires. There would be 2 million less people in this city.
Most of those people aren't "public figure"s
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
What makes a better impression – smiling or not smiling in a mugshot? Miguel looks like he was in a good mood during that shot, but then again he was probably still drunk.
EJR
Yasmine Bleeth might have the worst ugly to normal look ratio in history
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
So, will MLB hand down any kind of “punishment”
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
don't they
usually leave that up to the team to decide?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Why is he wearing scrubs?
Then again, the better question is WHY THE HELL IS THIS DIP DRIVING DRUNK AGAIN? But I’m still confused by the scrubs.
i wanna know
what is up with the “I’ll fucking kill him” comment.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
he prolly threw up on his ed hardy shirt
by delias man on Feb 17, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Blake Griffin hitting his head on the backboard
Something else happened after the game, Daily news was reporting that he was sobbing in the clubhouse after receiving some kind of personal news.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Because this guy, a close friend from Oklahoma, died.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
In basketball history I wonder if any team has ever beaten another team by 50 points and then lost to them the next game. The fact the games were played within a month is even more amazing. Even more crazy, a team who had a 26 game losing streak beats both LA teams within a week first by breaking the losing streak and then beating the two time defending champs.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
i swear
i saw that stat either here or at Silver screen and roll. I think it’s happened like 6 times or so.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
Shocking
all road loss, home wins?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Sheff
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 8:31 AM PST reply actions
Is it blasphemy to suggest
he might have been a better fit in LF than Thames?
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Yes
he’s 42 and missed all of 2010, I’d so no one ever missed a full season at 41 and was worth a contract at age 42 who was not a pitcher
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I was going to say
his bat quite five years ago but then the stats told me I was full of shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Reports-Jose-Bautista-set-to-strike-it-rich-aft?urn=mlb-322552
He may replace Dick Allen as the greatest angry black ballplayer to not be in the HOF.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Dirty Madoof money
The Mets kept getting paid because of the friendship at the expense of his other clients.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
The Mets paid him $400,000; the Tigers ate $13.6 million.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Double WOW
Almost Andruw Jones levels
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Did Sheffield exit any of his MLB cities on good terms? I don’t think he did.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
Detroit has handed out
some pretty crummy contracts in recent years…D-Will, Maggs, Bonderman.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
What was wrong with the Maggs contract?
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
Nothing, I guess
But his injuries had some people groaning for payroll relief.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Damn you Cabrera!
Missing 16 games in 3 years. Bastard!
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
thought he meant
Ordonez?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
I am an idiot!
I haven’t had my Dr. Pepper this morning :)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
see what happens?
withdrawls
Dr. P is a hell of a drug.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
He did
Eric has Miggy on the mind
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Please welcome to the stage, Miggy On the Mind!
Playing their smash single “Double DUI” featuring Donnie “Two Times” Mattingly!
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
i appreciated the use of the word "smash"ed when refering to Double DUI.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
The pun was unintended
but thanks for giving me undue credit. :-)
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Oops, 17 games. I forgot about that game 163
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
They were just lucky
idiot Jose Gonzalez never thought they would start PED testing
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Old news?
Jose Bautista with a five year extension
Cross him off your 2012 FA list
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
To be fair, he was never on my 2012 list :)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Part of me really wants him to go back to business as usual
just so his 2011 year can be studied for decades.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Like the way people pick apart Beltre’s 2004 season?
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
I remember that season vividly, but I can say I was too young to be confused how he managed to put up 50+ homers and then suck for so long after.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
but he never really sucked
he simply wasn’t a home run hitter.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
That's what I meant
My words are all jumbled this morning…not calling in sick was a mistake on my behalf.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Plus
if he does not continue to mash this might be the flukiest season since PED testing was instituted. No Brett Boone stuff going on here. Or Pujols shared his chemist with him:)
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Phil, you don't think Pulhos takes PED's do you?
For some reason I want to believe he’s naturally that amazing….especially with the stringent testing policies now.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
This makes me sad
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
To be fair I think everyone except Jim Thome does.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Come to think of it, there doesn't seem to be all that many players
getting popped with a positive test nowadays…..I find it wierd because you’d figure plenty of guys would come up positive for PED’s or recreational drugs like Pot. I haven’t seen too many 50 game suspensions since Manny’s.
What do you think the situation is?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
MLB doesn’t test for recreational drugs, the Brewers had to put one of their prospects on the 40 man because he was facing a life time ban if he got caught again.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
wow these are all things I didn't know, thanks for the heads up Reg
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
That was wrong. They do, just not pot.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
That’s why Timmah is still around, or there would have been bigger repercussions for his pot bust a while ago.
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
Also it explains the existence of Jeff Weaver and Joe Beimel.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
because pot is not a performance enhancer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTYwDTxxCw
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
We have a big enough sample size of historical player career trends to know an outlier whe we see it. Stepping into the big leagues at age 21 and proceeding to hit 37 home runs and average 40 over your first 10 years simply doesn’t happen.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
What’s sick is his numbers still own everyone even when he played in the cavernous ballparks of old. Then you see modern players complaining because Target and Citi Field aren’t hitter friendly, ha!
by DodgersKings323 on Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
I think Eric is saying that everyone wants to believe he is doing it without PEDs
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Whew…
I posted that, read through the rest of the debate, and then I began to wonder if that is what you said.
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
How is he pulling it off without ever getting popped?
If he definitely is using PED’s then I would think he’ll end up having an abrupt end to his production at some time near age 35 or 36.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
His doctor is smarter than the MLBs doctors. Steroid testing in general is a huge joke.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
This seems tremendously cynical to me.
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
It is, but if you were an athlete and you knew you wouldn’t get caught, why wouldn’t you?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Integrity?
I have fairly rigid ethical values and when I flout them, I feel absolutely terrible, so that’s part of the reason I don’t think I would do it. I don’t like taking adderall for that reason, even though that’s pretty much an academic PED.
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
I do to but we’re talking about millions of dollars at stake.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think I could take them, but (using him as an unfair example) when the difference is minor league deal Jose Bautista and $65million Jose Bautista, I’d think long and hard about it.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
I think Bautista is yet to be seen. As far as I can tell, the guy changed his swing and started to only swing for the fences.
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
just meant that if the difference between steroids and no steroids is several millions of dollars, it’d be difficult for me not to try them.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
sure
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I think the argument feels cut and dry, but is really slippery when you start wondering what is and isn’t a PED
The science is not stopping, what is today’s PED could be tomorrows nutritional supplement and vice versa
What if we start genetically modifying mood to give higher nutrition that results in athletic gains other generations could not enjoy?
What about things like making eyesight better than 20/20, or doing surgery on things not injured in order to reconstruct the body in a way that performs better
We seem to object to PEDs because we believe that they are magic pills where results happen without work…I don’t think that is reality, but that seems to be the struggle
I don’t see this close to being black and white
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
I was going to say
What if we start genetically modifying mood to give higher nutrition that results in athletic gains other generations could not enjoy?
I think they have that already, and they call it “marijuana”
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
Players are always looking for an edge
I never considered taking steroids when I played but a lot of the players I played with did.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Really though Reg?
I’m not trying to be argumentative buddy, but with all the hoopla about congress getting involved….Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, McGwire, Mitchell Report…….didn’t they legitimately tighten up the testing policies or are we going to start a whole other steriod era?
HGH can’t be detected can it? If not maybe everyone is just doing that……but if that’s the case then why aren’t there any more 55+ HR seasons post 2005?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Maybe because the link between PEDs and HR isn’t as strong as we thought?
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
HGH can’t be detected can it? If not maybe everyone is just doing that……but if that’s the case then why aren’t there any more 55+ HR seasons post 2005?
Because the pitchers are taking it too.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
If the pitchers are taking it too, then I demand to know why the hell I could still bench press Lincecum.
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
Doing steroids then watching the Wizard of Oz set to Dark Side of the Moon doesn’t get you swole.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
yeah but he'd smoke you under the table with some of
Dr. Dre’s Dank Cali Bud
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Not all steroids make you huge. In fact, for athletes like sprinters and (I would think) pitchers, some focus on fast-twitch muscles only. It’s why I was never on the “Shawn Green can’t be on roids, look how skinny he is!” train. I don’t think he did roids, but I don’t think that is evidence for why he didn’t.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
So why would someone like Shawn Green be ok? Cos he was very good but not ZOMG AMAZING?
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
he had a normal career path. hit between 11-16HR from age 22-24, 35 at 25, 42 at 26, moved to LA and hit 24, then hit 49, 42, hurt his shoulder and hit 19 but had 49 doubles because his power was gone, and trended back downwards until he was 34. I suppose you could point to the jump from 16 to 35, but he also played in 23 more games that year.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
The police are always chasing the criminals. PED tests are reactionary to whatever new drugs are developed. The process is something like: New drug developed>MLB finds out about new drug>MLB develops test for new drug>MLB tests the test for new drug>MLB has to go through hoops to get new drug on the banned substance list>MLB implements testing of new drug. There could be years between just steps 1 and 2, let alone steps 1 and 6. Until step 6 happens, anyone and everyone could be using the drug to their benefit.
And that doesn’t take into account the idea that even once a new drug is developed, they’re already working on the new drug to replace that one.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
I like you're rationalization on that G. Scott
and it makes sense to me.
It really does piss me off when a guy like Pulhos can do what he’s done in his career and eclipse Ruth & Gehrig with 10+ straight seasons of .300/30HR/100RBI…..but it’s all bull shit!
Given that this is the case Eric then I really would like to see Thome get in on the 1st ballot especially if the consensus amongst the writers is that he was clean all along.
Do you remember our 1st ballot Thome debate a couple of weeks back? I thought Pulhos was clean if he’s not then Thome should be in man….he’s the last of the natural country strong big boys who hit the long ball. Dunn is in that mold but I don’t think he’ll ever amass the career stats to warrant an induction.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
there is nothing to prove Pujols is not clean
so don’t crucify him just yet.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
This is America
he’s innocent until proven guilty. I’m willing to watch what the man does and be astonished, but if it ever comes out that he cheated I won’t be surprised. It’s more being jaded than skeptical at this point.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
You are changing your thought on Pujols because some guy on the internet said he wasn’t?
My only point is that it’s best not to put anyone on a pedestal, because the only way that can end is badly.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
I honestly thought Pulhos was clean Eric
but me accepting the likeliness that he’s not is a testament to how highly I value you’re guys opinion
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Pujols is clean
by MLB testing standards and that is all you can go by. Nothing else, what I said was simply a joke, and didn’t expect to start this firestorm.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Okay
His name is Pujols
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I think it's crazy that
he has appx. 58 career HR and 52 of them came in 2010….according to ESPN’s scroll bar this morning. Maybe I read it wrong but I’m pretty sure that’s what it said.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Nope, 113 total, 54 last year
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
He had 10 in September in 2009 so it’s probably closer to 88.
I remember when Bautista was a prospect they talked about his power so it didn’t just come from nowhere. The man completely changed his approach by doing everything columnists hate (stopped going the other way, swinging for the fences every time) and it paid off.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
IF he does it again next year, this will be a great deal. Big IF
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Amazing
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2011/02/ronald-belisario-i-lost-my-passport.html
Ronald Belisario told a Venezuelan newspaper that he lost his passport and that he should be able to report to to camp soon after obtaining a new one.
But that’s news to Belisario’s agent, Paul Kinzer, who said on Wednesday that his client will probably miss the entire season because of his inability to gain legal entry into the United States.
“That would be news to me,” Kinzer said. “I hope that’s true.”
Kinzer, again this year, might want to check with his client before responding to press inquiries.
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Only thing I can assume is that Kinzer made several unsuccessful attempts to contact Belisario.
After all, Belisario is the person who did this, per Hernandez:
[Belisario] said he hasn’t called the Dodgers because he will resolve the situation on his own.
Kinzer knows his client is a dumbass.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
amen
we all run out of dumbass patience, seems like Kinzer hit his limit
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
I doubt Kinzer is so annoyed that he won’t cash his commision check (assuming he gets one) this year.
And it wouldn’t kill him to say, “no comment.”
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
that he should have said either “No comment” or “I haven’t heard from Belisario in weeks” and left it at that.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
sure
but we are all human and pissed off people who don’t get their phone call returned sometimes say angry pessimistic things
I know I do – I also do a little irritated shrug with my open palms out to my side and my elbows folded in, looks like a cartoon Italian gesture
I even sometimes later regret saying them
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
If there has been one point that has been reiterated a bunch over the past few days, it has been that HJ is Italian.
Got any awesome recipes I could borrow/steal? :)
Day to day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in. Let another round begin...live to win. YEAH! LIVE! YEAH! WIN!
likely
what do you like to cook? How hard do you want to work? How much time do you like to spend in the kitchen?
I guess what I am am saying is that I can tell you how to combine things you might already have in the pantry/fridge, or we can talk about how to make the shit that usually makes up the pantry and then work from there.
Put another way, do you want to buy your things like bread, sausage, pasta, tomato sauce, and soft cheeses – or do you want to start by making those?
BH is also a very talented cook and well versed in a wide variety of techniques, even affiliated with a cooking school
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
oh mannnn I would like to do all of the above, though the more labor intensive stuff would probably have to wait until I was out of school…like the summer. Or on the weekends when my work load gets back under some semblance of control.
I like too cook anything, I like working hard, and I don’t mind spending lots of time in the kitchen. Barefoot, natch. ;)
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“Once you’ve put your groceries in the car, the quality of your dinner has already been decided.”
Mario Batali
Normally, I wouldn’t trust the opinion of a man who wears Crocs, but he’s awesome AND he’s besties with Anthony Bourdain, so I’m alright with it.
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so easy to tell quality of ingredients in italian food – the French seem to want to transform food into something else, the Italians more want to make food taste more like itself
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is just goofy
Obviously Kinzer doesn’t have much invested in Belisario.
I think we need a Belisario Reporting Pool
If he did lose his passport, should the Dodgers just tell him to f off. Because that is ridic.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
The newspaper reported that Belisario “tested positive” in his medical examinations with the U.S. Embassy last year.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
The US Embassy gives drug tests?
I had no idea, you mean you can’t get a visa if you do recreational drugs?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
news to me
My company is always getting visas for folks from India – not always an easy process
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
C.A. Clark at Silver Screen and Roll
Sums up nicely the point I tried to make last night about the Lakers, and flipping the switch:
At this point, I fear that the Lakers will end up with another championship trophy at the end of the season. I fear it, because as much as I’m supposed to root for them, as much as I’m supposed to be a fan of their exploits, I worry about the repercussions of such a victory. What kind of message will be sent about basketball if the Lakers put all this nonsense behind them to make another deep postseason run? Basketball is a sport, and the essence of sport is competition. If the Lakers can treat the regular season with this much disdain and still end up the victors at the end, it will serve notice that basketball’s regular season is nothing more than an 82 game extension of the pre-season. It will be a proclamation that all of these games are not competitions, that they are simply exhibitions. If the Lakers can play like this, on a semi-regular basis, and still be “the best” this league has to offer, how does that make a regular season game any different, or any more important, than a professional wrestling match? Sure, the results remain unscripted, but the results are no more important. The Lakers aren’t shaving points, or throwing games, but in a way, what they are doing is no less threatening to the game.
A competition requires that both (or all) parties in the competition must compete. The Lakers are violating that most basic tenet on a fairly regular basis. And if they go on this season to remain the champions of this league, it will confirm that the regular season has little competition to it. Such a revelation would do significant damage to the game itself. You shouldn’t be able to win a marathon by running the last couple miles better than everybody else because you walked the first 20. It goes against the spirit of competition, and against the purpose of professional sports.
Excellent points
I really enjoy reading the articles the guys at SS&R write…Dex and C.A. are damn talented.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
wellllllll
Allow me to play Devil’s Advocate:
It’s pretty much agreed that the postseason is a crapshoot. The best teams from the regular season SHOULD win, but that doesn’t happen with as much regularity as we’d like (see: Cleveland Cavaliers). If the Lakers are just a good post-season team then that’s just the way it is. Infuriating, but honestly, I think I’d rather have a team that lackadaisically trips its way into the playoffs and then kicks some ass. Otherwise, you become a Cubs fan, and I’m not sure I could take that kind of angst.
As fans of the team, we want them to play well all the time, and what fan doesn’t?
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Laker fans win SOOO much that their blogggers are now fearing another champinoship. He fears this for the good of the sport.
Seriously, you’re not ready to cross over to our side yet?
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Hahaha, I can’t just hop into the bed of another franchise just because the fans are arrogant! There’s gotta be a bit of a grace period…otherwise the Clippers will be my basketball rebound (…hmm) and then we’ll all just feel icky about it in a few months.
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use the Thunder as your rebound, then jump on the Clippers.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
yeah, but then the Thunder might run away to a homeless shelter in Knoxville and stalk me through their frie — oh wait, I’m confusing basketball with my real life again. My bad.
I would love to be a Clippers fan if only for the trifecta of liking sports and sports teams that piss off Maddz Daddz.
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the trifecta of liking sports and sports teams that piss off Maddz Daddz
trifectas require three parts, college girl.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
awww, you think you know everything about me, and that's cute
Baseball: I’m a Dodgers fan, he’s a Giants fan
Basketball: He’s a diehard Lakers fan, so being a Clippers fan would totally be hilarious
Hockey: I like the Sabres, and my dad thinks hockey is stupid.
How many is that, Mr. Business Degree? Is it three? I think it’s three.
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by Maddz on Feb 17, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
not what you said
you said the trifecta was liking sports, liking sports teams that piss off Maddz Daddz, and…
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
no
there was an “and” there
two teams and one sport(hockey)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
trifecta was meant to modify the amount of teams and sports that I like, not the categories of things I like that he doesn’t like. The “liking” wasn’t meant to be applied to each of that categories separately.
But if it makes you feel better, I can just amend it to be “liking sports, liking sports teams, and liking boys (read: any and all) that piss off Maddz Daddz”
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I don't consider NBA playoffs to be a crapshoot at all
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
but that belief doesn’t extend to other playoffs?
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The better team loses in baseball far more than in any other sport.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
reason number 2016 why baseball is my favorite sport
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly. The Spurs currently have a winning percentage of 83% at the all-star break. The 2001 Mariners had a winning percentage of 71%.
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
I think the odds are higher in the NBA that the best team wins then in baseball or football.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Home court advantage is huge in NBA
and the playoffs aren’t one and done like the NFL
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
Home field advantage
2010-2011 NBA: .602 winning percentage at home
2010 MLB: .559 winning percentage at home
2010 NFL: .559 winning percentage at home
There are 6 NBA teams this season with a losing record at home.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
It might have to do with pitching
In basketball you put pretty much the exact same team on the field every game, in baseball not so much?
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
There’s that, also there’s far more opportunities for lucky bounces in baseball.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Baseball also has a different umpire every game and while the rule book says the strike zone is a constant, we know that to not be the case.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Oh yes
basketball officiating is notoriously consistent. Consistently bad I mean :-p
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
They have the hardest job out of all the major sports refs, IMO. Not an excuse for poor game calling, mind you, but some potential slack to be cut for them.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Other then roughing the QB in football
nothing seems to rival the deference that referees in basketball give to star players.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
I agree, but I think calling pass interference has to be up there.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
I was going to try to work in referee calls as a way to show how there are lucky and unlucky breaks in NBA games as well, but I couldn’t do it without sounding like a snobby lakers fan.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
or if you prefer
DON’T SPIT ON THE LAWN
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
It could be argued
that matchups are much more important in basketball than in baseball: fewer players on the field of play = more critical matchups. In the playoffs, a team can ride a couple of hot pitchers/hitters into the WS.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
fewer players is why having 1 superstar can win you a whole bunch of regular season games in basketball and why it’s less reasonable in baseball, especially if said superstar is a pitcher.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Didn’t you tell me last night that if you have a team that is consistent throughout the season but no studs to carry them through the postseason, they’re effectively screwed?
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yep
In basketball, a superstar can get you to the Finals (LeBron 2008?). I was more referring to a mediocre but consistent starting rotation being able to maintain in the MLB regular season but when it’s Jon Garland vs. Roy Halladay in Game 1 and 4, it’s more difficult.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
LeBron? What?
2008 was Lakers/Celtics “Anything is possible”
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man if Jon Garland was our number 1 starter in the post-season, then you’d know that something went horribly, terribly awry
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amen
key part of Maddz post is “post-season”
we get there, I don’t care who is numero uno – hell he could be because Kid K clinched the final regular season game out of the pen and he is the guy who is most rested
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
moreos
if our rotation was guys like Bronson Arroyo, Jon Garland, Livan Hernandez, Brett Myers and Randy Wolf, guys who just eat innings and sit around league average, you may be able to survive the regular season due to consistency, but the playoffs are going to be a bitch.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Also your 5th starter and possibly 4th don’t matter at all in the playoffs.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I think that the playoffs in any sport are a completely different animal than the regular season. Clearly I’m alone in this opinion, but I wasn’t aware that I needed groupthink consensus before forming them. :)
I will agree that the baseball and football playoffs are less consistent from regular to post than basketball is.
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I also think the NBA having days off in between games benefits teams like the Lakers and Celtics who are starting to get old or have played several extended seasons in a row. It gives them time to prepare a new strategy and rest guys. In MLB, playing 7 games in 9 days, the only real strategy is “Starter Number 2, I choose you” and in-game managing.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
I hate the scheduling for basketball playoffs
it takes longer to get through the playoffs then it does the regular season.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
NBA playoffs: the most important 3 months of the season.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
God I hate the NBA Playoffs. To me it is the easily the worst of the major sports end-of-season formats. Indiana/Atlanta Best of Seven here we come!
only if it’s in the ECF and they both beat either Boston or Miami in the first round.
Totally agree with your point though
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
I think NBA playoff suck for all reasons mentioned
But as a business traveler I also must admit that I LOVE them.
It is awesome to have a game on everynight for 3 months, with many of them starting west coast times, so I can watch them late at night in my hotel room
Regular season baseball does much of the same, but some hotels don’t always have the right channels in the room – playoffs are always on
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
nights there is no game on in your room is when you go make friends with the bartender.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
I appears that Kin and I have a natural ken
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Good advice – I tend to drink much during my travels
But I also have a rule of the road, don’t hang out in the bar alone if you want to stay married. So when we all call it a night, nice to have sports on the TV
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I always end up sitting next to the oldest dude at the bar and seeing what stories they have to tell.
Last Saturday a guy at Seaport village in SD was telling me all about how he travels by train instead of plane because he likes to see the country not just fly over it. Gave me some travel tips for traveling by train and now I’m curious enough to try it once.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
good plan. I like old dudes where ever I find them. For some guys I imagine I am the old dude!
But I travel 120 days a year, and sometimes the old dude isn’t there but relatively good looking and somewhat bored cougar is
I am wary of testing my moral strenght while mixing the lonliness of the road, alcohol, exhaustion, stress, and the nearby access to a bed
But I think you are right, the old dude is almost always the place to go
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
In an NBA game that is tied entering the 4th quarter, is there any reason for having watched the first three?
If you enjoy watching the game, then yes. Sure. You will have seen plays in the preceeding quarters that may have delighted you
You could say the same for any sport you know…about being tied. The argument is flimsy but it travels
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Sports are all about entertainment value, so yes. If you only read the last act of Hamlet you’d only know how it ends and no clue why everyone is dead. Same in the NBA.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Couldn’t you say the exact same thing about baseball?
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I find that in basketball teams seam to go up
by such large margins, yet it always seems to be tied going into the 4th. Its probably not really true, but it sure as hell feels that way.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Basketball is a game of runs
Any team can go on 10-0 run in as little as two to three minutes, turning a double-digit lead into something much more manageable. It’s for this reason that the games seem like either team has a genuine chance to win until the final couple of minutes or so.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
They measure basketball games in points, not runs.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
No, because baseball doesn’t have quarters :)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
And it’s the only sport where the offense doesn’t have the ball.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
clearly you are unfamiliar with Kickball, which I discovered has a HUGE adult following on this blog
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Instead of talking about the NFL going to 18 games they should be talking about the NBA going to 60, it’s the ASB and what’s the point of the rest of the season?
by DodgersKings323 on Feb 19, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t agree. The point is to win a championship. If you have won enough games to ensure a spot in the post-season tournament then that’s all that matters. If the struggles are a result of tinkering with lineups or working on things that you may or may not do in the post-season, well you’ve earned the right to experiment with that.
Many teams have not earned that right, therefore the regular season is more meaningful to them.
I’m really trying not to overreact to all things Lakers, but it’s hard not to find Clark’s passage somewhat arrogant. Just because things are a certain way for LAL doesn’t mean it’s going to have a profound effect on how fans at large view the games. Regular season games are more meaningful for teams like Utah, Memphis, Portland, NOH and Denver right now than San Antonio and the Lakers. That’s not earth-shattering. The sky is not falling.
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Even though it’s human nature to do so, taking games/plays off in any sport is always distasteful to fans.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
It’s a rare individual indeed who presses to the limit of their natural abilities every single time. I know plenty of smart and athletically talented people who only “turn it on” and “flip the switch” in periods of great need. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case here.
K3vo should do a psychological study about the group dynamic behind streaks.
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even when I want to be great, some days I suck at my job
Some weeks I struggle
and then I break free and kick ass and get a months worth of work done in a 3 day flurry
why should we think them basketball robots?
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Because it’s wholly inconvenient to treat professional athletes like actual human beings with feelings and stuff.
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It is
we can’t quantify feelings yet.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Sorry, but that’s dumb.
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How is it dumb?
It is extremely inconvenient to try to judge someone based on their feelings and stuff, because we have no way of knowing what they are. I’m not saying you can’t do it, or shouldn’t try, I’m simply saying its difficult and thus inconvenient.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Just because we quantify feelings into a nice handy dandy statistic doesn’t mean they can be disregarded entirely.
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I’m not saying you can’t do it, or shouldn’t try
You seem to be trying to disagree with me on something I don’t disagree with you on. Inconvenient doesn’t mean impossible.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
I think he’s saying that if you haven’t actually talked to Matt Kemp, don’t talk about Kemps feelings.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
but equally foolish to assume that he doesn’t have feelings
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
Which is my point
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I think we’re all agreeing here.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Also sample size – so while the lakers would beat the cavs X times out of 100, with X being significantly higher than 50, X would not be 100
Thus maybe the Lakers ran into one of those games that they lose for whatever reason
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
they lacked intestinal fortitude. I could see it in their eyes. Their body language was poor and their celebrity girlfriends were making everything hard on them. I blame Jamie.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
last time I lacked intestinal fortitude I wound up in the hospital with dysentery
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
and Ron Artest tweeted about it
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
His twitter is amazing.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
but how’s his mixtape?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
formula
amount of $$ you make=amount of humanity you are percieved as having.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
d'oh (bad math)
it’s an inverse relationship. someone who’s actually good at math write that out in a way that makes sense for me please
/slinks away
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
I’m okay with more money=better than.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
The point is to win a championship. If you have won enough games to ensure a spot in the post-season tournament then that’s all that matters.
Perfectly stated. If you want to increase competition in the regular season, make it 4 teams per conference not 8.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Excellent points as well
Can’t really argue either way, but I admit as a Laker fan I’m biased. All things equal, though, like Maddz said, we as fans want our teams to win all the time, and when the talent is there but the execution is not, dissatisfaction and frustration grow exponentially, especially when the team is “used to success.” I’ve always hated the statement “the Lakers are the Yankees of the NBA,” but it stings due to some elements of truth in it.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
I’m only upset when my team doesn’t “try” or doesn’t play well in the regular season if I attended that game expecting entertainment value for my ticket and I feel like I didn’t receive that. Otherwise, it’s a long season with a whole lot of miles on those legs.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Agreed
IMHO, team sports can be boiled down to three main elements: talent, preparation, and execution. Rare is the team that is talented, prepared and executes consistently over the entire season.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
They are still collecting that 6 figure paycheck regardless, they should get fined for dogging it.
by DodgersKings323 on Feb 19, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Or cut the playoffs to the Top 4 or 6 of each Conf.
by DodgersKings323 on Feb 19, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Belisario then put on a pair of Bad Idea Jeans
Sounds like freshman year!
Real talk, this is bad. How are you like “LOL lost my passport, no biggie, guys, I’ll get it taken care of” and if you are doing that, how do you think that your employer is like “For sure, do what you gotta do” after you’ve been consistently inconsistent?!
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Rockies news
Joe Crede decided not to report to camp, and the Rox are close to a deal with John Maine.
First injury of the spring
Dana Eveland hurt himself during running drills, the third running drill of the day, per Dylan H
he sprained his double chin
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by underdog on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
tweet from Heyman about Cabrera
#tigers will seek to get miguel cabrera a doctor and additional counseling. (a driver might be a good idea, too — not kidding)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 9:37 AM PST reply actions
Want to go on record here
I hate the academy awards and what the event does to traffic patterns in my neighborhood
I resent what film actors are paid and that no one compares what they make to teachers but somehow for sports figures that is ok
I have my doubts about people who camp out to get a good seat to watch people get out their limo and walk down the red carpet – it’s not like you get to see them “act” or anything, they just get out of the car and walk for gods sake…and yet people line up
I have more to rant about, but this will have to do for now
This weekend is going to be a traffic nightmare. NBA All Star game AND the Academy Awards?
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I thought every NBA game was an acting seminar?
by kinbote on Feb 17, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
All star game is not in my barrio
all news is local or some shit like that
or
if it ain’t on my lawn, I don’t care who is on it
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I suppose I’m only going to be going to Torrence this weekend.
GScott, how much would you hate me if I told them where I was going this Saturday morning?
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
My girlfriend got a photo with Colin Firth for lining up outside some after party, so some good can come of it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I'm hoping this line of reasoning works for spring training
because I want a goofy pictures with Dodger players. Do you think if I ask them to take pictures with funny faces they’ll do it?
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I’m sure you’d have much more success at it than I would. The big guys might be hesitant but you could grab John Ely pretty easy.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
My buddy’s wife asked Chris Keamotu of the Steelers to take a picture with her after the Steelers lost the superbowl.
He is known for not being a pleasant guy, but he sucked it up and did it.
She happens to be very attractive, and was wearing a Steeler jersey, which probably helped it all work out
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
So I shouldn't be inviting you to my Oscar tweet-up?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I've never understood the
actors/sports people to teacher compensation comments. I guess if there was only 500 teachers in the United States I could get it but since they are the most common union job available, the pay scale has to be a certain value or quit whining about your bloody taxes.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
also
one is paid by the government and the other is paid by billion dollar multinational corporations. Fox has a bigger operating budget than California. That’s reality. Deal with it.
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Also
one teaches 20-30 kids a year and the other entertains millions.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
if you shift the criticism to a criticism of what people in this country (maybe the world) value, then it makes more sense.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I’m willing to shift that criticism. I’m a child of private schools, my parents invested in me at least as much as they did in their own entertainment. I don’t think that’s the norm for most middle class families.
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Jason Parks at Baseball Prospectus
Has a public service announcement up about Dee Gordon, specifically to be cautious about his type of tools. I thought this was interesting, from when Parks first saw a talented, raw prospect he thought was a skinny 17-18 year old Latin American:
For whatever reason, I just assumed he was a recent Latin American signee, getting his feet wet on the backfields. At this point, I was still unaware of who the player in question was; after all, I was watching a low minors complex game, and the players are often without identification on their jerseys. I finally walked over to the Dodgers coaching staff and asked who the fast-twitch athlete playing shortstop was. I was told Dee Gordon.
Also:
However, once you gaze at that 80-grade speed, or witness the range in person, it’s hard to tell yourself that it’s okay to want more from a prospect. I’m here to tell you that’s it’s okay to say that you want more refinement from a 23-year-old. It’s okay to say that you want your prospects to have the physical projection (read: strength) necessary to utilize their tools at the major-league level. It’s okay to want more.
FWIW, BA rated Gordon’s speed at 70. Mike Trout, OTOH, was an 80.
by silverwidow on Feb 17, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
i know they offically had him at 70
but i read an article or two where BA also said he was an 80 with speed
by Brandon Lennox on Feb 17, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Trout won't be 80 in the future.
Gordon, OTOH, will
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Gordon
can use his speed to deliver Pizza Hut while Trout will be using his in the all-star game
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
You
are totally in the minority. For the Masses I gave them a Dee Gordon profile they will love.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
But is due
to be read on Saturday so nobody will read it.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
the great thing about the internet
is that you can always go back and read it!
/ducks
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
maybe he meant it’s going out in the TBLA print edition : )
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Right
who comes in Monday and goes back to what was written over the weekend?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Me. I’m your audience. Weep.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I just get the feeling
Bellasario is really really dumb. Not like, haha he can’t get here on time dumb, but like 8 year old dumb. Telling blatantly stupid lies that no one believes.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Pedro Guerrero “so dumb, it works as a defense in court” dumb?
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
It seems more sneaky than dumb to me, like he is hiding something. If he did lose his passport then I would agree that is really dumb.
and he isn't getting away with shit
the Dodgers know he is lying, and know he isn’t being honest, which at this point is as likely to hurt him as the truth, unless the truth is a dead hooker.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Great book, band, or album title
Truth is a Dead Hooker
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Band Name: Truth
Hit Album: Dead Hooker
Tell-all Book: Truth is a Dead Hooker
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Where the cheese comes from a dispenser.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Fake nacho cheese is the best. I once turned down nachos at a local dive when the guy told me they used shredded cheese.
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Gable House actually has a Pizza Hut instead of a snack bar, so it’s got that going for it.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
thats a good thing?
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
in the same way that people who detest Wal-Mart will shop at Target
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
so true
so very true
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I also have a Sam's Club membership
Hypocrisy, thy name is TomásC.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Costco FTMFW!
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
The Sam’s is literally five minutes from my house, and the nearest Costco I know of was in Northridge before they opened up their new location in Pacoima not too long ago.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
There’s one on Sepulveda and Victory. Been going to that one forever.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
PS ARE WE KIND OF NEIGHBORS?!
DO YOU NEED A RIDE TO BOWLING?!
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
People….just go here: http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-burrito-jr-torrance
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I’m sure we’ll go there but if I’m in Van Nuys, and he’s in Pacoima, and he needs a ride, I can provide this so we can both go to EBJ
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Wait a second
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
dude, are you seriously knocking EBJ down a peg? That place is tits!
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno, I guess I just have to rethink my entire taqueria hierarchy
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
delias man is going to take me to all the finest taqueiras and strip clubs in the South Bay
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I live in Sylmar, actually
Work in Pacoima…I live pretty much right next to LA Mission College.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Do you need a ride? Aka’d as “You’re going to bowling, right?”
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
aka?
red?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
heh, sorry
red in Japanese is aka. I’m in a weird mood caused by illness.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
i thought it was akai. I only know this because we used to tease our friend in Japanese whenever he would get drunk as he’d turn bright red.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
There’s nothing funny about that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
just by itself, it's aka
but when used to describe something, you put the “i” in there.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I'd love to
Not sure if I can make it…g/f and I might have business appointments late.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Tomas
our TBLA drug connection
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Costco makes me sad. Like I get that it’s supposed to be a warehouse, but you get in there and it’s a warehouse. Like just paint something, light something already
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
The Tyson chicken tender samples don’t make you happy?!?!
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
There is plenty of light in costco
from all the tvs
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
good thing too
i need to be able to see my choices in coffins.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
You can buy two for a much cheaper cost per unit!
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
and all the checkers wear plaid shirts, which makes me self conscious about wearing plaid
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Classist
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
i kid. I mean it the same way that I don’t wear red when I go into Target, or blue in blockbuster back in the day
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Cause you look like an employee, and then folk ask you where stuff is
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
ahhhh
that happened to me once, I had a band performance, and afterwards someone at El Torrito tried to give me their order.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
hah target is the worst
because when you work there you can wear ANY shirt, as long as its red. I’ve gotten asked for help a couple times when I was shopping.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
I know…I hate companies that pass savings on, treat their employees well, and promote from within
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
And cheap respectable food
except the carne asada bake, that thing is just nasty
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
It would be better
if they could insert the quac and salsa after they microwave the damn thing
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
my half-bro
is like a regional manager back east. Makes good money.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, any one I know that works there has loved it and has move up
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
he wants to transfer out here though
he hates it back east. Hates snow and cold.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
but other than that
he loves it and has recommended to all of us to get jobs at Costco.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Target is better then wal mart
I don’t see your point.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
that Pizza Hut is better than yellow sludge from a machine on stale chips, even if it’s no Papa Johns
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Thats debatable
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Pizza hut has no flavor and sucks
Shitty nachos have a certain… charm. Plus, Pizza Hut is shit. Did I mention Pizza Hut is bad?
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
I like Domino’s cinnamon sticks…and $5 Lil’ Caeser’s pizzas have their time and place, much like crappy bowling alley nachos.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
I used to like to combine the blue and red Icee flavors. Now there are probably 800 flavors. I tell my students, "I"m so old I remember when there was one flavor of Doritos" [Is there even a non-flavored? If so, what’s the point?]
I think Icee has only a few still
but slurpees, thats a whole different bitness
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
I don’t get what everybody’s hating on, I’ve had Chicago Deep Dish from a co-op joint, Brooklyn style from a hole in the wall, I still can appreciate take out from Domino’s on a Friday night
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I love pizza
Doesn’t really matter from where: I’ve had it from practically every major chain, and they’re all good in their own ways. Spread the love for food, not the hate for pizza!
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
by TomasC on Feb 17, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Honest to goodness
Dominoes before they changed their recipe last year, and pizza hut just have no taste to me. Maybe its from working at a pizzaria that actually has decent pizza for a long time and eating nothing but pizza from there. I don’t know, but I derive zero joy from Pizza Hut pizza and its not very hard to find something better.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
I am with Josie on this…context and expectations.
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Papa John has terrible pizza
he can throw one hell of a deep out though. I envy his quick release and form.
Better commercial throwing form than Brett Favre!
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
All national pizza chains have bad pizza
but papa johns is better then most
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Papa John Creech
was a hell of a fiddle player.
Soylent Green. Now with rrridges!
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Feb 17, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
This just in
The popcorn at Target is so good, it’s worth killing over.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
it’s POPCORN! How exactly are we food snobbing over popcorn?
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
My childhood
it cries out in joy at the thought of popcorn and icees from target. Maybe I should make that my lunch today.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Don't forget
the overpriced machines in the back room’s “arcade.”
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
“Anything that you get better at as you consume alcohol is not a sport…and that is bowling” – Jim Rome
by silverwidow on Feb 17, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Beer Pong is totally a sport.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Tiger Woods disagrees that alcohol improves your golfing
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
TBLA Beer Pong Night
Who would not attend?
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
do you live on my street? I have the same neighbor???
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve over drinking games in general. They just result in fun.
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Ha
I had that with outside Texas Hold ’Em Sundays with my previous neighbors. Got real old real fast.
I finally brought over a six-pack and told the guy, “Look, my bedroom window is right there . . .”
That’s my non-confrontational approach to that kind of stuff. I had a one-year old and was freaking out about sleep. Plus, it was annoying. It worked.
Dude, I was going to ask you to be my partner..
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
OMG that would have been amazing
of course Josie is my partner.
/Vermont
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
/there were lilies
/and a harpist
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
/we wrote our own vows
/Maddz Daddz cheered
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
/and there was one hell of a dance party
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
/it was a safe to dance
/it was a safety dance!
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Turk is ready for the safety dance
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg28vbCPN11qgkqjlo1_500.jpg
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
OMG
THANK YOU FOR FINDING THIS!!!
One of my favorite moments in Scrubs, period. That and when he lip syncs to Poison.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Netflix just put the whole series up for streaming
I know what I’m doing tonight
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Absolutely
All of his dances are hilarious.
J.D.: What, Turk and Bonnie? They hate each other.
Carla: Then why is he doing his “You’re so getting a piece of this” dance?
J.D.: He’s not! That’s his “In your face” dance…. Or it’s his “There’s a sale on lotion” dance. I dunno; he’s got so many dances.
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
it’s not beer pong unless it’s natty or some sort of ice
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
we need to hang out more when i’m in town
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
my cousin
played with Jagermeister once.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
bold
and terrible
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
indeed
he will never do it again. But his wife still loves Jager, he is more a Jack and Coke man.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Last year, my girlfriend and I did JOOSE…
Don’t do it.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I had two roomates try to drink a handle of Bacardi by themselves. They figured if they played four games of shot pong they could do it.
The night ended with one of the guys fleeing the apartment and being found the next morning in the bed he slept in in his last place.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
One morning, me and my friend found his brother sleeping in the front yard. He told us his friend’s couldn’t take him in the house,so they just left him in the lawn to sleep.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
GScott even has a Dodgers beer pong table. Let’s make this happen.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
you're finally notching this?
also, i’m not sure if i should be amused or saddened that this is not the first time i’ve been called a “traitorous wench”
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
i try to be more constructive with my criticism
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
really?
cos mine is on “pitching hungover”
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I knew it!
But since this is apparently super secret I will keep it to myself
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
you should totally come
and distract me, so that I don’t heckle poor GScott
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
well I figured out the activity there are still several possible locations so you’ll have to clue me in somewhat ; )
by Josie Becker on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
saturday morning she’s going to go watch me play in my hs alumni game where i will surely embarrass myself.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
right field, baby. right field.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Are a bunch of lefties facing G.Scott? :)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Is that in the South Bay
I have to be in Torrance that morning.
by bhsportsguy on Feb 17, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I’m missing bowling night to go to a beer pong tournament, does that count?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
that makes you
a jerk
a scarfless jerk
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
But what if my neck gets cold at the tournament?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
then you’re kinda fucked, aren’t you?
Can your girl DD? just come to bowling drunk
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Now you want them to go to a Dungeons & Dragons tournament!?
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
She’s my beer pong partner. The only thing saving me from certainly getting bounced in the first round is the guy created a “guys roped into playing with their girlfriends” side of the bracket.
It’s a birthday party, so I’m probably gonna be there a while.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Why does no one want Willy Aybar?
Has he become that bad?
It was in 2007
As far as I know, nothing has happened since.
Here is a 2008 NYT article on Aybar.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Wasn't that one of the reasons
the Dodgers shipped him to Atlanta?
"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"
Heyman is betting that Pujols will end up re-signing for 8 yrs/$256M.
WTF?
by silverwidow on Feb 17, 2011 11:16 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Excellent
and a 21st century, 2nd decade version to boot
The 20th century flowchart was quite different
I wonder what the 19 century flowchart would have looked like.
Thanks for this
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I am fairly sure the last time I did/saw a beer pong
was well before any of these young ones were either born or just beginning to eat solid food.
that's good to hear
it’s cross-generational!
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
What
you think your generation invented everything. Hold on, my other can with string is ringing.
by bhsportsguy on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
I have never seen it in person
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Back in my day we didn’t need a game to get drunk…just the hope of getting some
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
that hope is still there
but now dudes think they can impress chicks with their beer pong skills
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Who isn’t impressed by the frantic blowing of a ping pong ball out of a cup
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I must admit, I have never heard of Dodgebeer
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
what is dodgebeer?
while that’s certainly true, it’s not been because i’m like “dang, that guy can sure hang onto his motor skills while drunk?”
it’s because i’ve also been playing, and losing, and totally think everyone is attractive
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
Dodgebeer
A little hard to explain, but basically you have two teams, two players on each team. You use a long table (or something similar) just like beer pong. Teammates stand on the same side of the table at each corner across from opponents. Each player starts with an UN-opened can of beer on the table in front of the corner they are standing at. Now lets say it is team A’s turn… Each player on team A has a ping pong ball in hand. The first player chucks the ping pong ball trying to hit one of the opponents cans. If you hit the can the ball will fly off in some direction. At that point if you hit their can, you can crack open the beer in front of you and start chugging until your opponent chases down the ping pong ball and touches it down back on the top of the table, yelling “stop”. This means you stop chugging and put your can down. Then your teammate goes and tries to nail a can. This can be done in rapid succession and you can hit the same opponents can at which the same person has to keep chasing the ball around.
Once both players on team A have taken their turns, then its team B’s turn and it keeps going like this. Once you have finished your beer, you are out of the game. The first team with both players having finished their beers wins.
oh
oh my god. i’ve played this game. i’ve never laughed so hard in my life. my brother gets so spastic when he’s chasing after a ping pong ball…
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
I think everyone looks spastic when they’re chasing after a ping pong ball. I’ve seen some injuries haha.
i played that on new years eve
pro tip: do not play king’s cup with your siblings, because “never have i ever” becomes fraught with danger
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
never
again
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve played a lot of Kings but not for a while. Played it more in college. Man those cups get disgusting.
new years eve: champagne, four loko, red wine with dr. pepper (ahahaha), and newcastle.
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
So what your saying is don’t play Kings Cup.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was once a victim of:
Tequila, red wine, bud light, nattys, and Red stripe, and…. JOOSE!
It really isn’t fun when you get the last king.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
It’s funny when it happens to a guy twice.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
My problem with kings
is that people cheat. They never do the ace in the face or waterfall and they never chug the kings cup. I’ve even seen really weak stuff like the boyfriend electing to drink the kings cup for their girlfriend.
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Nah,
In the parties I attend, WE HAVE to chug that shit down. I got fucked up that night…
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yea you are totally right. Some girls want to play but not deal with the consequences.
Same with the finger cup game (I’m sure it has some other name but thats what we call it)
what the hell is the finger cup game
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
You take a big cup and each person playing pours a splash of whatever they are drinking into the cup.
Then each player puts a finger on the rim of the group. You go around in a circle and call a number 0 – # of people playing. Simultaneously while one person is calling out a number, everyone can either leave their finger on or pull their finger off the cup. If the person who called out the number guessed the right amount of fingers left on the cup, then that person is out.
Last person left has to drink what is in the cup. That gets nasty. Last time I played it was generally about a half a pint glass full of a mix of a couple different beers, jameson and loko.
You guys every play russian roulette?
The drinking game, not with guns.
One person doesn’t play and fills up 5 shot glasses. 2 are with water, one is with vodka and one is with everclear. You mix up the glasses and hand them out to the five people playing.
It may not seem like much, but drinking something expecting water or everclear and getting the opposite messes with your head.
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
we used to play a similar game except instead of a finger everybody placed their
oh nevermind, I can’t even write it as a joke
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
what is this JOOSE
is it good?
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
It’s Four Loko with less booze.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t understand any of this
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
sugar + alchohol + caffiene =
4loko/joose/dead
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
You are right
and I have not seen or done one of those in about the same amount of time. I have never seen beer pong.
Do you use anything better than PBR or Bud when playing that?
by bhsportsguy on Feb 17, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Jeff Mathis, a man after my own heart
Per Mike DiGiovanna of the LA Times:
Angels catcher Jeff Mathis on four yrs sharing position with Mike Napoli: “We had a good little run.”
When you get older
you realize drinking all that beer and running around is too much effort.
That’s when you buy good bottles of gin and single malt and just sit and sip.
by bhsportsguy on Feb 17, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Easy rec
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Maddz
You on gmail?
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 12:18 PM PST reply actions
Fav
George “High Pockets” Kelly (1915-1932). Ol’ High Pockets is in the Baseball Hall of Fame and has actually been called the worst Hall of Famer ever. (At least until Jeter gets voted in.)
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
Where is The Freshest Man on Earth? That nickname is swesoke.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I’m fond of Walter “Shitty Batter” Dugan.
But for real ballplayers, I’ve always been partial to Putsy Caballero.
I do agree that we need more players nicknamed “Gentleman”. More “Handsome” guys would be good too.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
All time
Dodger nickname team?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
We aleady have Pee Wee, Duke and Babe. What more could you want?
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
And Buffalohead and Fat Tub of Goo. The ’80’s had some legit nicknames (Oil Can, Human Rain Delay come to mind).
Hell, modern players have good nicknames too — Greek God of Walks, the Mexicutioner — in addition to all the *-Rods.
Holy shit, who is the Mexicutioner. I love it.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wait, baseball players? I don’t know.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Eye Chart.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Carl "The Reading Rifle" Furillo
as well
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 17, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
NY Times piece on Don Mattingly
had me ready to feel all warm and fuzzy, but instead made me kind of irritated
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/sports/baseball/18dodgers.html
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Like this weirdly made point
“The perception that the Dodgers are strapped was not exactly dispelled by their 11 free-agent acquisitions.”
So that they signed a bunch of free agents and didn’t have the quiet off season that people expected them to have doesn’t count because they didn’t instead overspend wildly on a Jayson Werth?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I know the whole Auburn trees thing was bad, but the dude’s phone call to the Paul Feinebaum show was hilarious.
tragically funny and pathetic all at the same time
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
To counteract that bad news
Here’s a link to the largest privately owned ancient forest in Britain. Scroll down and you can see the King of Limbs, a 1000 year old oak.
Two birds were just killed with that stone. Thanks, kinbote!
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
that tree is too old
for Eric to want to punch it.
Now, a baby tree…
Baby, I remember the way you used to look at me and say, "Promises never last forever."
by Maddz on Feb 17, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
with the soil so soft. Good call Maddz.
Good looking out.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
dang
I will toss you in slow-rec softball
by robotmadeofnails on Feb 17, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
She taught you, or you taught her?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
From what I can tell
BH is the only Gentleman here.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
by meercatjohn on Feb 17, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sweet
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Tree's having a touch week
End of the road for the Old Shoe Tree
Anyone here put some shoes in that tree?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I’ve got a cool oak tree in my front yard on a busy street I planted as a baby that is now looking studly. I’m thinking of hanging some panties on it just to see if people will follow suit. Could get interesting
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
If you hang it, they will come
Just from looking at panties? There is medication that can help with that.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I keep forgetting that the meercat is such a prude
Phil, on the other hand, would appreciate it.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Clever Fan Post
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/2/17/1999748/time-to-trade-kershaw
Keep the sabers holstered until you read and understand the post
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
fuck that
THIS IS BULLSHIT WE SHOULDN’T TRADE KERSHAW HE IS THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE THE ONLY WAY I AGREE TO TRADE HIM IS IF I GET A DINOSAUR.
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
x

Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
the Vicki Mendoza diagonal
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agy6KOSwyA8
Some people think that they can outsmart me...maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
First sign of spring
is that I got the first “daily notes” email from the Dodgers.
These pitchers threw bullpen sessions today:
Garland, Kershaw, Kuroda, Lilly
Hawksworth, Jansen, Padilla, Troncoso
Ely, Monasterios, De La Rosa (x2), MacDougal, Redding
Eveland, as previously mentioned, was hurt in running drills. He was going to pitch today but didn’t.
The other 29 non-Belisario pitchers have reported to camp BTW
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
You wonder
what goes through the minds of those not on the 40 man when they see so many arms they will have to compete with to ever pitch for the Dodgers?
Like dang “I need a new fucking agent”
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
If you’re a prospect and you’re worth a damn, it should be something to the effect of, “Roman Colon? Lance Cormier? Dana Eveland? Jon Huber? Mike MacDougal? Ron Mahay? Tim Redding? Oscar Villarreal? Fuck those guys. I’m better than all of them, and I’m gonna prove it”.
At least, that’s what I’d hope they are saying. Not “well, the meal money is nice”.
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
They're probably thinking
“Good thing there is a GM who trades pitchers to the Pirates for nothing”
Eveland, as previously mentioned, was hurt in running drills. He was going to pitch today but didn’t.
Also, Dana is a girl’s name.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. It’s not like he has a very masculine, handsome name, like Kelly.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Kelly’s Heroes
is that what you call your family?
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Of course…but there are moments when I have 4 Colonel Klinks running around.
by KellyStephen on Feb 17, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I met my first Dana in the 2nd grade. He was a guy. But I am 50 years old.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
What league do you play in? WAKA? I’m playing in a big kickball tournament this weekend in South Florida.
Yes WAKA Hollywood and Silverlake divisions. I am feenin for some kickball action, but parks and rec services have our fields down for the winter.
you’re telling me there are adult kickball leagues?
The way to keep yourself from making assumptions is to ask questions.
you took
“you gotta be shitting me” right out of my mouth
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Monk is still young
but I heard Mahay added some wrinkles
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
Is Rubby this year’s “Chris Withrow” in the spring? As in, most anticipated start?
by Julio Nievas on Feb 17, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
So long as he’s not this year’s Chris Withrow in the summer, all will be right with the world.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
The Dodgers are channeling Red Auerbach
for his genius when inventing the concept of a “sixth man,” rather than just “you’re benched.” Regarding Padilla, per Gurnick:
“That will dictate how we’ll use him,” Mattingly said. “To me, Vicente can pitch with one pitch — that fastball. He can locate, do what he wants with it. The guy’s fearless. I could see if Broxt [Jonathan Broxton] saves three in a row and [Hong-Chih] Kuo’s been used, who do you throw in the ninth? He’s a guy you’d be confident to throw out there. He has a chance to be really versatile.”
“I’m confident in my ability,” Garland said. “Last year was one of my best years. It’ll be up to Donnie if he wants to change something around. But if somebody goes down, Padilla is a pretty good guy to slide into the rotation. The way he throws, he could be a closer. He throws 95 [mph], then he flips that 55 [mph] curve up there, it’s amazing. One time through a lineup, not many teams could get to him.”
The first time Padilla and confident have been in the same sentence without “he’ll lose”.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Feb 17, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
but Garland doesn’t have any for relief work; Padilla does.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
He lost me at Broxton saving 3 in a row
by Michael White on Feb 17, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Other Broxt-y Dodger nicknames
Garl
Urib
Baraj
Gwyn
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Broxton will collect three saves in three days at least twice in 2011.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
BOLD
Good news, Eric guarantees no less than 6 wins for Dodgers in 2011
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
We’d have to have two three game winning streaks for that to happen. I’m going to say no, Broxt in 2011 will not do this for the Dodgers.
Broxton will collect three saves in three days at least twice in 2011.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
I don’t know if he will or not, so I’ll put it slightly differently:
IF we get to the point that we are arguing over Broxton’s overuse because he gets three saves in three days at least twice, THEN the Dodgers will be having a very, very good season.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Feb 17, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Unless it happens in April
because Kuo didn’t get out of Spring Training again, and they kill Broxton in April and well hell, you know the rest of the story.
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
On consecutive nights? that is the leverage point in that equation for me
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I saw this website and I said
The NBA has a poetry blog?! AWESOME!
http://nbapoetryblog.squarespace.com/
Then I was like, how do I get in on the MLB poetry blog?
But it wasn’t what I thought it was.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
Pretty funny comment
from Dave Cameron during a live chat on ussmariner today. Someone asked him how he got started on his blog:
Derek Zumsteg, Jason Barker, and myself used to trade emails about the team. We eventually decided “hey, we should publish these.” So we did. We later learned that was called blogging.
I believe
Dave stole that comment from Rob Neyer and Rany
"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "
impossible
there is no such thing as stealing on the internet
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 17, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions

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