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2011 NL West Offseason Review: Colorado Rockies

Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez compare extensions.

The Colorado Rockies had visions of grandeur last season after their 2009 playoff appearance. I was convinced the NL West would be a two-team race last year, but between the Dodgers and Rockies rather than the Giants and Padres. The Rockies, like the Dodgers, had a disappointing season, ending with 83 wins. Will they return to the playoffs in 2011?

Five Questions

Colorado Rockies
2010 Record: 83-79
Division Finish:
3rd Place, 9 GB
2011 at Dodger Stadium:  
May 30-Jun 1, Jul 25-27, Aug 19-21
2011 Dodgers at Coors: Apr 5-6, Jun 9-12, Aug 26-28
SB Nation blog: Purple Row

1) Will the Rockies' starting pitchers stay healthy?

In 2009, the Rockies got 155 starts from their top five starters, and won 92 games and a playoff berth. Last season, the Rockies got 127 starts out of their top five starters, and won 83 games, with no Rocktober. They signed Jorge De La Rosa to a two-year deal, plus potentially two more option years, but he has averaged 142 innings over the last four years, with a high of 185. Aaron Cook has averaged 143 innings over the last two seasons. If 23-year old Jhoulys Chacin can pitch like he did last season over a full year, the Rockies will have a very good starting five. If those five stay healthy for a full season, the NL West is likely the Rockies' division for the taking.

2) Did the Rockies need to lock up Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez now?

Colorado was busy this offseason, signing their two best offensive players to long-term extensions. Troy Tulowitzki was already signed for three more years, with an option for his age 29 year, but the Rockies gave him seven more years with a guaranteed $132 million. That doesn't seem like much of a discount over the kind of contract Tulo would have received in, say, three or four years if the Rockies wanted to extend him then.

Carlos Gonzalez parlayed his fantastic 2010 into a seven-year, $80 million deal that bought out three free agent years. Those three free agent years came at a cost of $53 million, an average annual value exceeded on this winter's free agent market by only Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, and Cliff Lee. Hey, if Gonzalez continues to hit like he did in 2010, good for him and Colorado will have received a great deal. Or, Gonzalez could see his BABIP fall from .384 to something like the .333 he had in 2009 (when he hit .284/.353/.525, a 118 OPS+), and that $80 million could seem like quite a burden.

Don't get me wrong; both Tulo and CarGo are very good players, and I would love to have them on the Dodgers. It just seems, from afar, that the Rockies assumed a ton of long-term risk while not getting much of a discount that a team would like when providing long-term security. That said, there is something assuring as a fan knowing that your best players would in town for years to come. If the Dodgers signed Clayton Kershaw to a 10-year deal tomorrow, I'd spend a long time celebrating before I even thought about questioning the money.

3) Do the Rockies have the best bullpen in the division?

Perhaps. They made a couple of trades to add to their stable of quality relievers, and have assembled quite a crew. They have five relievers currently under contract for 2011 (and beyond), and here were their strikeouts per nine innings in 2010: Huston Street, 8.6 K/9; Matt Lindstrom, 7.3; Rafael Betancourt, 12.9; Matt Belisle, 8.9; and Felipe Paulino, 8.1. If Franklin Morales can give them anything from the left side, in addition to Matt Daley, et al, the Colorado bullpen should be formidable in 2011.

4) Which versatile infielder playing at second base this season will have the higher OBP: Juan Uribe or Jose Lopez?

The Rockies traded minor league pitcher Chaz Roe to the Mariners for Lopez this winter. Lopez, who played third base last year in Seattle after four years at second base, hit .239/.270/.339 in 2010 after hitting .285/.313/.453 in the previous two seasons. Lopez has a career line of .266/.297/.400, an 86 OPS+, while Uribe has hit .256/.300/.431, an 85 OPS+. In 2010, Rockies' second basemen combined to hit .246/.306/.327, so if Lopez can hit anywhere close to 2008-2009 levels he should represent a nice improvement over last year.

5) Have the Rockies ever won the NL West?

No.

Offseason Moves

Rockies Trades This Winter
Team Traded Acquired
Blue Jays
Miguel Olivo c
$25,000
Astros
Clint Barmes if
Felipe Paulino rhp
Mariners
Chaz Roe rhp
Jose Lopez 2b
Astros
Wes Musick lhp
Jonathan Aristil rhp
Matt Lindstrom rhp
A's
Clay Mortensen rhp
Ethan Hollingsworth rhp

Olivo had a $500,000 option buyout due, but the Rockies traded him for $25,000 to the Toronto Blue Jays, in Toronto's offseason of flipping catchers. The Blue Jays declined Olivo's option, but netted a supplemental draft pick when Olivo, a Type B free agent, signed with Seattle. So, essentially the Blue Jays bought a draft pick for $525,000.

Rockies Contracts Signed This Winter
Pos Player Type Total Contract 2011 Salary
SP Jorge De La Rosa FA 2 years, $21.5 million (+options) $10,500,000
IF Ty Wigginton FA 2 years, $8 million $4,000,000
SS Troy Tulowitzki Ext 7 years, $134 million (+option) $5,500,000
OF Carlos Gonzalez Ext 7 years, $80 million $4,000,000
RP Rafael Betancourt Ext 1 year, $4 million (+option) $3,775,000
SP Jason Hammel Arb 2 years, $7.75 million $3,000,000
2B Jose Lopez Arb 1 year, $3.6 million $3,600,000
RP Matt Lindstrom Arb 2 years, $6.6 million $2,800,000
RP Matt Belisle Arb 1 year, $2.35 million $2,350,000
3B Ian Stewart Arb 1 year, $2.2875 million $2,287,500
RP Felipe Paulino Arb 1 year, $790,000 $790,000

Betancourt was already signed through 2011, and his extension was for 2012 with a mutual option for 2013. The Rockies also signed Jason Giambi to a minor league deal, which will guarantee $1 million if he makes the team, plus an option for 2012. Colorado brought in third baseman Joe Crede, outfielder Willy Taveras, and jack-of-all-trades Alfredo Amezaga as non-roster invitees to spring training as well.

Star-divide

 

Rockies Players Lost
Pos Player New Team
RP Manny Corpas rehab (elbow surgery)
3B Melvin Mora Diamondbacks
RP Joe Beimel Pirates*
SP Jeff Francis Royals
RP Octavio Dotel Blue Jays
P Samuel Deduno Padres
OF Jay Payton still out there
*Minor league deal

Corpas, who is expected to miss all of this season after elbow surgery, was released in November, with the Rockies eating his $3.5 million 2011 salary and $250,000 2012 option buyout. Deduno was designated for assignment on January 24 to make room on the 40-man roster for Clay Mortensen. The Padres claimed Deduno off waivers on Sunday, January 30.

Here's my guess as to the Rockies' 25-man roster, with a few assumptions mixed in:

2011 Rockies Under Contract
Pos Player 2011 Age* 2011 Salary
C Chris Iannetta 28 $2,550,000
1B Todd Helton 37 $10,600,000
2B Jose Lopez 27 $3,600,000
3B Ian Stewart 26 $2,287,500
SS Troy Tulowitzki 23 $5,500,000
LF Seth Smith
28 team control
CF Dexter Fowler 25 team control
RF Carlos Gonzalez 25 $4,000,000
IF Ty Wigginton 33 $4,000,000
OF Ryan Spilborghs 31 $1,950,000
IF Eric Young Jr. 26 team control
1B/PH Jason Giambi** 40 $850,000
C Jose Morales 28 team control
SP Ubaldo Jimenez 27 $2,800,000
SP Jorge De La Rosa 30 $10,500,000
SP Aaron Cook 32 $9,250,000
SP Jason Hammel 28 $3,000,000
SP Jhoulys Chacin 23 team control
CL Huston Street 27 $7,300,000
RHP Rafael Betancourt 36 $3,775,000
RHP Matt Lindstrom 31 $2,800,000
RHP Matt Belisle 31 $2,350,000
RHP Felipe Paulino 27 $790,000
LHP Franklin Morales 25 team control
RHP Matt Daley 29 team control
gone Manny Corpas

$3,500,000
Totals (18 players, including Giambi)
$81,402,500
*Age as of June 30, 2011
**Giambi is on a minor league deal

Thanks to Baseball-Reference.com and Cot's Baseball Contracts.

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i'm starting to put my fantasy team together (in my head)

and i’m wondering if there’s a chance in hell that Car-Go repeats such a killer season. I’m thinking no way.

Trying to figure out if it’s possible for Cano, Votto, or Hamilton too…Cano seems the most likely because he has so much protection, but Hamilton and Car-Go have those parks…

by stevesaxaphone on Feb 2, 2011 7:26 AM PST reply actions  

I think Hamilton hit better on the road than Car-Go did

but what about Jimenez? Dominate first half. Second half, not so much.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

i went to school in Boulder and have a lot of friends who are rockies fans

both times kershaw beat jiminiez i kept going “Whobaldo?”

i though it was hilarious, but i am easy to please.

by stevesaxaphone on Feb 2, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

you need

the little things in life :). I was there for the first one, man that was awesoke.

Also, FYI

Road Hamilton: .327BA

Road Cargo: .289BA

Scary thing is, at home, they were practically invincible.

Home Hamilton: 390BA

Home Car-Go: .380BA

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Car-Go also had over 100 more PA

I’m sure there is a sabermetric that accounts for this, but i don’t know what that is

by stevesaxaphone on Feb 2, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this division will be Dodgers-Giants with neither reaching 90 wins.

Seems like the top 4 teams from last year all got a little worse on paper (except for maybe us), and the Rockies needed a handful of breakout seasons to even reach 83 wins.

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 2, 2011 7:40 AM PST reply actions  

The Rockies are definitely in the mix for the division, and probably should be the favorites.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

They were the favorites last year, too, right?

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

In my mind, yes. It was between the Dodgers and Rockies.

It will all depend on their pitching. If De La Rosa and Cook can actually pitch for the whole season, they will be tough.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

For sure. Someone told me the NL West was weak in class on Monday.

I just stared at him. “Are you fucking serious? World Series champs came out of there, Padres had the best record in baseball for a long time.”

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

:(

I think the AL Central is weaker.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

And the NL Central. And probably the AL West.

Basically all divisions are bad except the AL East.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

And even then, it’s just three good teams, the Orioles, and then the team you can no longer ignore, the motherfuckin’ Blue Jays.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but having three out of the four best teams does a lot.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

5?

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say it’s Red Sox, Phillies, Yankees, Rays right now.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

But…um…the Phillies play in the NL.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, three of the four best teams in baseball are in the AL East.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

OHHHH I get it. My bad.

Yeah. I can definitely see that.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm more impressed

that he ignored the Blue Jays. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re the team in the corner wanking over their wins per dollar.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Hellickson = Garza, IMO

The pen is weaker, but the offense should be about the same. Rays are still really good, though.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Also the gap between them and everyone but the Red Sox was huge, so they have a long way to fall.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You don’t think they’ll miss Carl Crawford? That guy is pretty good.

by Nolij on Feb 2, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

No doubt. They will miss him.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The Orioles in the NL West

Would likely finish higher than the Dodgers.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Led by proven ace Jeremy Guthrie.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

you underestimate the Orioles, they may not have a name pitcher, but they do have a plethora of good young pitching that could come together.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

No I see it, but after the disaster years almost everyone had you’re asking for improvements from 8 or 9 guys to make that team interesting. I think it’s too much to ask.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

They

certainly had an interesting 2nd half last year, 34 – 24 from Aug – Oct.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Also interesting

they went 9 – 9 against Boston, while combining for only 15 wins against the rest of the division.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh no question, but they weren’t a 50 win team or whatever they were heading towards before that. A lot of that was just progression to the mean.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure

I like the everyday lineup with Roberts back, if Weiters/Markakis can step it up, might be a very strong offensive team. The rotation is the question but not like the Yankee’s, Sox, and Bluejays have deep rotations.

Sox have to be counting on Beckett to be healthy, and Dice K not to suck. The Yankee’s don’t even have anyone to hope to be healthy after CC. They really only have one great pitcher, one average pitcher, and nothing else.

All the lineups are loaded, but I’m really not impressed with the rotations other then the Rays and heck Shields is a huge question mark, while Hellickson has plenty to prove.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Red Sox

also need Lackey to not suck

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Or get injured

which he has done plenty of

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Gosh

even injured he is good for like 160+ innings.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Right but even the lineup, easily the best part of that team, has four guys that need to bounce back to be any good. Practically every pitcher on that team needs to improve on last year. I think they’ll improve on 2010 for sure, but saying they could compete in the NL West is going a little far.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I still have a hard time wrapping my head around Lester, Beckett, Buchholz, Lackey, Dice-K, Wakefield not being a deep rotation.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Its not 2009 anymore?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

Lester – yes
Bucholz – good but not as good as the writers think he is
Lackey – workhorse, not really special these days
Beckett – was just about the worse starting pitcher in baseball until he stopped pitching. When he came back he was okay but he was no vintage Beckett
Dice K – sucks
Wakefield – sucks

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about Lackey

he had one ‘bad’ year, and two years before that with injuries where he still pitched a bunch of innings. I think he could be pretty good this year.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Lester: owns
Buchholz: probably the luckiest pitcher in baseball last year
Beckett: Was bad last year, but it’s an odd year so he’ll be great
Lackey: Was bad, has gotten worse every year for a while
Dice-K: Bad
Wakefield: Will be Wakefield

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

This I know, to all three of you. I feel like I’ve been pumped full of ESPN lies.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Orioles are pretty solid

Sure they aren’t without flaws, otherwise they’d be the Red Sox. But they have a solid lineup, with some excellent defenders. Three out of their five starting pitchers would probably have a FIP under 4.00 pitching in the NL West. Matusz is their best pitcher. The Orioles/Dodgers are pretty much opposites of each other talent wise. Maybe we could merge the two teams together? :) LA Dorioles??

1 2B Brian Roberts
2 RF Nick Markakis
3 CF Adam Jones
4 DH Luke Scott
5 1B Derrek Lee
6 3B Mark Reynolds
7 C Matt Wieters
8 SS J.J. Hardy
9 LF Felix Pie

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus

it looks like the DH will be Vlady with Scott moving to the OF, thus giving more of a bump to the offense, though the defense will take a hit.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

They’d also have a lineup with Mark Reynolds potentially hitting 8th. Holy damn.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The man did hit .198 last year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

But if he did hit 8th, he’d probably set the record for most homers by a #8 hitter and would likely keep it for eternity.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Being better than bad hitters does not make you a good hitter.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

No one is expecting a number eight hitter to be a good hitter. But that is a lot of pop from that spot.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

True. And I guess we both made our points. :)

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm looking for a flying pig

now that Reg is using batting average to prove a point

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s like calling a pitcher bad because he went 2-18. Sometimes that tells enough of the story.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought

you had to be good enough to lose 18 games for them to keep sending you out to the mound:)

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike Maroth agrees.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I learned that from Eric

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually Scott is a decent LFer

atleast league average. Pie is their hole on offense, in other words he is their “Pie hole”. Not sure if they will get Vlady. But for the rumored $2M-$3M, it would be good for them.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Pie is their pie hole

and scott is a piehole. :-)

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

are you just looking for fights in that class or what?

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

No

It’s not limited to class.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

/shadow boxes

He was a Yankees fan. I was obligated by like, you know, the world.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

On behalf of all of us, thank you.

Yankee fans deserve to be emotionally and physically kicked in the nuts.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I am just not sure she is the right person to be doing it.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

You can go ahead and fuck yourself. <3

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

see?

you are so emo.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh yes, so very emo. You can tell by the bright colors I wear, the smile I usually have on my face, and my musical tastes.

Ok, I’ll give you musical tastes.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

craa...

never mind

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

and the Rockies needed a handful of breakout seasons to even reach 83 wins

I don’t know if you realize how many of their players had the worst seasons of their respective careers, either.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Feb 2, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

Ubaldo, Tulo and Cargo carried the team. Past that, their best wOBA was Ryan Spilborghs at .349, the same guy with -0.2. The role players as a whole were terrible

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

So the Rockies could be viewed as the anti-Giants

in that one team, SF played way over their heads on offense, and the other, the Rox, played way beneath expectations.

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

CarGo going clubbin balances a lot of that out. Also doing things like using Miguel Olivo as your catcher for most of the year was their own damn fault.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

And then going sideways, the Padres playing way over their heads defensively, and the Dodgers not really playing at all. ;)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Both signings

Seem like a reach. Tulo seems like the better guy to bet on long term.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 7:45 AM PST reply actions  

I’d rather have Tulo than Cargo.

by keithc13 on Feb 2, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Not like they'll need it

but I wonder if either got no-trade protection.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope, neither did.

I think there’s something in there for Tulo about getting $1 mill if he’s traded, and if I remember correctly something about only being able to be traded once, or the contract voids. CarGo may have something similar, I’m not sure.

But basically, neither has strict no-trade clauses.

by holly96 on Feb 2, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Rockies to me are the class of the division because of the balance they provide from the rotation, bullpen, infield, outfield, and bench. They don’t have the best rotation in the West but they might have the best of everything else and the rotation is anchored by one hell of a pitcher.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 7:55 AM PST reply actions  

Luckily Jim Tracy is still the manager, so that well help everyone else.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoever is playing 1B is going to drag them down like an anchor

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Giambi was roughly the size and mass of an anchor, so, agreed!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure he’s gonna make it back with them this year. But if that huge vein in his bicep has anything to say about it, he will be starting.

:)

by keithc13 on Feb 2, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Giambi certainly knows how to find huge veins.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

You don’t think Joe Crede is going to make the team? I realize they have Wigginton to provide essentially the same role, but as a part time player Crede could do some damage. Be their 2010 Melvin Mora.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

No chance Crede makes the team without injuries

Wigginton is making some good coin on a multiyear deal

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahaha.

Please don’t mention that we gave Juan Uribe three years.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Andrew – we gave Juan Uribe three years and we signed Juan Castro. Just thought you should know.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Also Matt Guerrier.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I am upset about baseball dammit.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing you gotta respect about the Rockies

Is that almost their entire team is homegrown and even a guy like CarGo was got in a trade as opposed to free agency.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 8:13 AM PST reply actions  

Yes

big fan of how they built the team, how they traded Holliday, not a big fan of the long long long term deals they give their players. Maybe it will work this time, but I doubt it.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, those deals make very little sense.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

clearly

they aren’t gun-shy about it after the Hampton deal.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Hampton

was not there own but Helton was.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

oh,

you were talking about home grown guys

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

i realize that

but in the end, it’s all about money.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It is

But the investment is part of the money. Tulo’s the best SS in MLB (or very, very close), and likely to be a safe bet over the majority of the contract. Cargo’s far riskier, but “Batting Crown” + “Extension” = fans in seats = money.

Also Mike Hampton, while a decent pitcher, had never pitched in Coors for a full season, altitude, no humidor, etc. Cargo has about 1.5 years experience in Coors (I know, I know) and Tulo obviously since late August 2006.

Also: Denver loves its sports heroes

Helton and his long term deal was one of the few things that kept fans coming back to Coors during the Royce Clayton/Charlie Johnson days.

Tulo and Cargo will bring a lot more fans into the stadium than absolute wins in the form of team friendly deals and marginal wins per dollar. There’s a good chance that Colorado will make as much money on these deals as the would had they gone the more cost effective routes.

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

i get you

I’m just saying, it’s cool that the fact that the Hampton deal blew up in their faces, didn’t preclude the Rockies from giving long-term, big money deals to guys who are arguably worth it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

ah, right

I must have misread the original comment as “HEH THEY CLEARLY DIDN’T LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE HAMPTON MISTAKE” and then I’d accuse you of writing for the Denver Post by the pen name Mark Kiszla and then we’d have problems.

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s the same guy who keeps masquerading as Bill Plashke.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

in the heart

as we say around here.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

That is so dang ridiculous

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

also missing:

a) a love of sports
b) any talent as a writer

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Plaschke should stick to writing the “Bart’s People” stories, his only redeeming quality.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

c) brain or a clue

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

My god that man only owns one jacket.

And one haircut.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

And one brain cell

Which only knows one word. ELWAY ELWAY ELWAY

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

………………………………..if i promise to be a good boy will the mean man minimize the window?

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I only saw it for 3 seconds and I’m going into an epileptic seizure.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Oddly enough, that's how Woody Paige derives his ideas

from epileptic seizures.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm listening to "Feel like making love"

by Bad Company, and Paige’s hand movements match perfectly with the beat.

Worshiping the holy trinity of Cargo, Tulo, and Ubaldo

by squalene203 on Feb 2, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

yeah, that’s not what i was saying, but i can how you may have thought that.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

salright

so do we

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

we're going to tell whimsical tales of the days of Bichette

and regale our grandchildren of the Mighty Conqueror, Andres Galarraga.

You see, back in those days, the baseballs were haunted.

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Larry Walker

knocked the bejesus out of them thus ending the haunting.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Piazza MVP rage, or simply the proper way to great a Canadian?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Carlos Ruiz says, “That role around here is taken.”

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Clink!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

do you tell the tale

of the day of September the Seventeenth in the year Nineteen hundred and Ninety Six when the mysterious Tornado from the east did cometh?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

King Larry prayed to his Western Gods

But Loki had allied himself with the Eastern Dragon and the wind flew at the back of this strange intruder

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Winter is coming.

/ducks

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

It was -21 in my front yard this morning

/already here.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Rumor has it

that it was 0 degrees F in Las Vegas yesterday!! :)

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn those dice are cold, yo

And talk about getting cold-decked at the poker table

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

oh you poor dear

it was 0 degrees in Las Vegas, New Mexico yesterday. You just got X’d

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah that’s what I was referencing, wasn’t I right? Or did I just flip flop the beat?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

floppity floo!

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Half flip and half flop

You are right, it was 0F in NM not NV. But you get a flip flop on the beat for not recognizing my sarcasm in my post and not realizing it was actually me who pointed out that it was NM and not NV yesterday. Sorry for the confusion. :)

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

oh no i got your sarcasm, it was our Rocky Mountain Oyster friend who mentioned dice, et all. I was just helping him out.

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They've got a Las Vegas, NM?

If don’t run 1/2 NL, I don’t wanna go.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Las Vegas, NM: You’ll Wish You Lived In Bakersfield.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Ain't that the truth [or consequences]

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And we are back to New Mexico.
Truth or Consequences NM

by Grimjack on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that one time Preston Wilson was good.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh god

as a Bronco fan who is also a Dodger fan, and thus I suffer reading teh DP too, don’t even mention that guy’s name. Most of their columnists and reporters are terrible and totally un copy-edited these days.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah the Bronco site It's All Over Fat Man

basically collects DP links only as fodder for derision every day, or consternation or eye rolling.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Renck

and kind of like Krieger

Paige is just a goofy moron, but I don’t see him as being malicious, just too cool for school.

Kiszla needs to be publicly executed.

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes

Actually, the DP would usually be a decent read if they’d just dump Paige and Kiszla. And their comments section.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

you should see the LA times comment section

i doubt any comment there doesn’t mention McCourt at least once.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, at DP, for years and years....

…and by years and years, I mean even still, it’s all MONFARTZ ARE CHEEPZ, ROCKIES DONT WANNA WIN.

And yes, they still comment like that when the Rox don’t give Jayson Werth an 8 year deal to replace Brad Hawpe.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

ooh ooh

what ridiculous trade scenarios do they come up with?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Hynick, Greg Reynolds and Alan Johnson for Roy Halladay

Oh wait, that was Woody Paige himself.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

We're going to send Kiszla to report from Tahrir Square for a couple days

He thinks Elway’s putting on a spiral clinic.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Paige is not malicious, you're right, just a do-do sometimes.

Kiszla is terrible. I also mostly pay attention to their Bronco writers, not Rockies so…
Lindsay Jones is fine for what she does.
EVen Jeff Legwold has been terrible at the DP (his columns are often full of factual mistakes, in addition to dumb ideas.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Krieger is easily my favorite

Very good writer, fair, informative, intelligent and it doesn’t hurt that I often agree with him. Renck’s “humor” sometimes wears on me, and the fact that Renck has been wrong about as much this offseason as that ice9543 guy you banned would be gives me pause.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 12:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

same here

with Plaschke

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

How much woe has Charles Johnson wrought in the NL West? Sheesh.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I would argue that the Helton contract DID work out

1) His Fangraphs value exceeds the money he earned
2) The rebuild and subsequent lull in on field winning was due to the Hampton/Neagle deals, not Helton.
3) Sure, he’s not earning his salary now, but that is pretty much assumed at the end of any longterm deal, isn’t it?
4) The branding Helton has given the franchise gives an awful lot of revenue in extra attendance and merchandise.
5) I know you’re used to GM’s making senseless moves, so I understand the lack of faith, but do you really think the franchise would simply dole out a long term deal if Helton’s was actually a disaster?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I would not really call the deal a disaster

but it would suck to pay him so much during all those years when they were not contending. That money could have been allocated elsewhere.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair they took their other money and allocated it to Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle. It would have gone to something much stupider than Todd Helton.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Hampton probably would have ended up a sold deal in the humidor era

Given the type of pitcher he was, he would have benefited greatly from the humidor, and maintained his sinking action without screwing up his arm slot and delivery and injuring himself.

Neagle…man, I could never grasp that one in the first place.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I see why you would do it, ground ball pitcher and all, but those strike out to walk rates even before he got there were ugly.

At least he hit some dingers for you.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

That money could have been allocated elsewhere.

You would think, but no, not really. Once they committed to a youth movement, they committed to $400k rookies. It was more value to see what the Matt Holliday, Jeff Francis, Garrett Atkins class of guys could do than to block them with a Jeff Suppan

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

4) The branding Helton has given the franchise gives an awful lot of revenue in extra attendance and merchandise.

Similar reasoning is what makes the Manny contract ok to me.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers vs Rockies

Here is a preliminary (and somewhat simplified) look at how the Dodgers and Rockies stack up via my sim.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

i don’t like the results coming from your machine

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, though I do like the caveat: Dodgers might do better over the course of the season due to randomness.

:(

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

We might like the actual results even less.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

When I use a more realistic schedule

Dodgers playing each team 10 times (5×5, A/H), the Dodgers project out to 84+ wins. Luckily there are plenty of bad teams to beat.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

That sounds about right

Lotta of things have to go right for this team to win 90 games.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The simulator also does not take into account the big player being imported at the deadline!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Jim Thome?

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

if he doesn’t hit any home runs, Andrew might try and hurt himself.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I just wanna see Ol Jim Jam mash one tater is that too much to ask?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

apparently it was

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

hey, he had that really cool 370 foot seeing-eye single.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Add Jim Thome to the list of good players BTW.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

fielder of course

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha I thought that first but didn’t want to start an actual baseball discussion. By that I mean, I don’t have the time or energy to contribute so I didn’t want to get something all turned on then have to leave. I’m no tease.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I am!

Prince Fielder at the deadline – what gets it done? Aaaaaand go.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

The amazing breakout year of Jake Lemmerman?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Gordon, Withrow and Link.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

i am not in the mood for trade talk anyways. just leaving the door open for the idea.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

but in the real world

i still hope they get Mike Cameron

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Are we better then anyone?

Whose projections are you using?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Better than SD and AZ

My own proprietary projections. They are calibrated to best measure a players current true talent level. The sim is built more for day to day simulating rather than projecting wins over a 162 game season. Predicting anything out over 162 games has pretty large error bars – luckily for us. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Originally for fun

then to measure if it was any good, started comparing to Vegas. Took a couple years to get any good. Always improvements left to do.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

you interested in college hoops gambling?

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Without a good system, I’d get my clock cleaned – so probably not.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

so many variables

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd be

curious how we’d stack up against the teams in the AL East assuming the AL teams used the pitchers to hit.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

does your sim

include crazy ned’s trade deadline antics

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 2, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope

That stuff is uNprEDictable.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Gret job Eric

It’s tough to keep track of my team’s offseason stuff sometimes – keeping track of others is that much harder. You pretty much nailed it, though I’d have two corrections for you.

1) It is an open competition, but at this point, Jonathan Herrera has to have the edge over Eric Young Jr. Perhaps even Chris Nelson. If Tulowitzki gets hurt, there is no one on the roster who can fill in at SS without disastrous results if Young makes the team.

2) Matt Reynolds will make the team. The organization has being pretty clear in that regard, and he needs to so that Morales isn’t the sole lefty in the pen. Matt Daley would get pushed out

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 9:28 AM PST reply actions  

Thank you, sir. I did some research but had to guess on a few of the spots.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Matt Reynolds isn’t someone that burns up the twitter wire. I’m 100% positive on the second one. 75% sure on the first one.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Great writeup. From where I sit, the Rockies are the best team in the division.

by LA Taco on Feb 2, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

I think I like them the best after the Dodgers.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope the Rockies are the heavy favorites again this year

:-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

I think Brad Hawpe no longer being a Rockie is the only thing Dodgers and Rockies fans will both be happy about.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 9:37 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

This

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

i agree

with the Octoparrot, oh and rec

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice one. Good we can find common ground.

by LA Taco on Feb 2, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Luckily that Helton contract is not hampering you from fielding a competent 1st baseman.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

we pay our first baseman a third of the price to be a third of the first baseman.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Loney had a higher OPS+ last year

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I was counting OPS-. It includes jersey sales.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Jersey Sales

are very important when trying win a world championship. Look what it did for the Dodgers when they sold all those Mannywood jerseys.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Back-to-back NLCS?

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It got us exactly as many championships as them.

Question: would you rather have 2 NLCS appearances or 1 WS appearance?

I’m torn on both.

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

did we win

the WS?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless we win it

it might be a tie

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

did they?

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

i meant that as, no idea. Just having the opportunities.

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably 1 WS appearance, but it's close

But that’s also probably because I’ve now attended NLCS games, but never a WS game.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather all the Ruiz fucking was localized in and around his heart or person

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

How would... what?

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Namely, he should fuck himself.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Heard this

Carlos Ruiz has a terrible sense of anatomy

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Guaranteed losses for both? The choice is 2 NLCS losses or 1 WS loss?

WS, I guess, but really….

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

outcomes not guaranteed. Just that I told you in April 2007 that you’d see your team either make the WS in 2007 or the NLCS in 2008 and 2009. Which do you like your chances of winning a title better.

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Hm.

One WS. Gotta take your chances with the bird in the hand over the two in the bush.

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Does your reasoning change if you are assured that Bride will make the right decision?

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by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Bride always does the right thing.

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup

and led the league in that all important line drive % thing.

In looking at the leaderboard in line drive % can someone tell me why it is important because that top list is littered with eh hitters. Just as many “good” hitters are in the top 20 as “bad” hitters are.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Hitting the ball hard is good.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

That would appear to be true

but then why do so many players on the top of that list kind of suck as hitters?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe one flaw is they don’t count HR’s as line drives, yet I’ve seen hundreds of homers that are absolute lasers straight over the fence.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah they do.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you sure? I remember reading something about this saying the opposite. It was about 2 years ago though.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

A good number of CarGo's home runs have been absolute lasers straight over the fence

And a lot of his ground ball base hits are smoked. He doesn’t exactly benefit from a bunch of ground balls with eyes.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

We said this about Matt Kemp too.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, if 2011 CarGo hits like 2010 Matt Kemp, I'mma be sad

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Who is Denver’s equivalent of Rhianna?

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by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

John Denver

Or zombie John Denver.

Or Lilly Scott from American Idol.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Phil Simms

/Super Bowl XXI

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Line drive percentage + not striking out = good average, which is a good start to being a good hitter.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

How do they classify those "humpback liners"

You know, clearly not a fly ball, not hard hit, does clear the infield. Loney might lead the league in those. (My perception may be skewed.)

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by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

UZR at least calls them “fliners” but it’s just the scorer’s call for the line drive percentage stuff.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

can’t wait for the future when batted balls are classified by velocity off the bat and angles of trajectory off the bat.

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by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

what about those mile high fly balls that were CRUSHED to the shortstop.

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I did say “angles” of trajectory. One would be in the plane of field, with zero degrees being to dead center and +90 the left field line, the other would be on the vertical axis perpendicular to the ground, with 0 degrees being parallel to the ground and a sky high pop fielded right on home plate being 90 degrees. Or the yaw and pitch axes, if you will.

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by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a headache now.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Feb 2, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

the future

every baseball, bat, glove, base, fielder will have a sensor or set of sensors and a transmitter that will send data in real-time to a data acquisition system powered by high speed computers that will store this data in large data wharehouses where stat nerds will come up with the ultimate baseball stats. Or not.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

So it becomes football?

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

except bizarro, that’s how football is currently played, but he’s talking about cataloging baseball, which football has like no system for cataloging outside of wins and yards

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sacks, QB Hits, TFL(yards technichally)

times targets, passes dropped, passes defended

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

so yards and reasons why they didn’t get yards

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

As opposed to bases

and reasons they didn’t get bases

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

well also pitches and justifications for why some pitches is better than other pitches

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Love makes the world go round

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Short passes vs long passes

vs outs vs hooks vs post routs vs screen passes….

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Do they monitor pitch, yaw, roll, altitude, speed of thrown footballs? I am not familiar with what all is measured in football.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

They do some of that for kicks I think

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels

were interested in Beltran before the Wells deal got done.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

I wish the Dodgers were

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

should’ve asked for him in the Hu deal :)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Solid assessment

The only thing I’ll say wrt the Tulo and CarGo contracts, is that, as long as they are, Tulo’s ends in his age 36 season, Cargo’s in his age 31 or 32 season. So these can’t be viewed in anything like the same prism as the Jayson Werth or Carl Crawford deals, for instance.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

My point was that the Rockies didn’t receive much of a discount for taking on the risk that they did. As hard as it is to predict what the market will be like four years into the future, 7/$132m isn’t far off from what Tulo could have received on the open market.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You're absolutely right, it wasn't much of a discount now

However, there’s a couple things to look at here, in the case of each player.

Re Tulo, if he maintains this production, the Yanks would be offering him far more than 7/$132 in a few years, to replace Jeter. Sure, the Rox got no discount in present day dollars, but given deals like Werth’s, Tulo could command more than $20m a year by 2015.

As for Cargo, that was sorta the price for getting to buy out any FA years at all. The only words that really matter are “Boras client”. Folks think he’s had one good year, but his 2010 performance really started around July 2009, when he perhaps started to actually figure it out. There’s a reason he was the #1 top prospect in two separate organizations even before coming to the Rockies. And yes, his BABIP is high. It will be when you crush the kind of line drives he does…though he’ll certain need to learn to take a walk. But I don’t see why his BABIP can’t reasonably be a .360 year in, year out over the next several seasons.

But the real thing is, if the Rox didn’t pay him market rate for those FA years, the reality is they would not have gotten him signed beyond arb years at all under any circumstance. And for that reason, the deal’s okay.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

We said that about Kemp's BABIP

last winter. Hopefully Cargo is a chump and will now get fat because I’’m not looking forward to him torching us for the next decade.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I don't honestly know much about Matt Kemp, but....

that said, my general impression is that he’s not exactly a hard working good teammate type, who cruised by on natural talent and didn’t make adjustments. I could be very wrong, but if I’m not wrong, then they’re two very different ballplayers.

Who knows, maybe with Torre gone, Kemp will be a better ballplayer.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

ESPN

is that you?

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

God I hope not

I hate ESPN marginally less than I hate the Gints and MCC.

Like I said, I don’t claim to actually know much about Kemp.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah he's pretty hard working

in the off season even (from what I’ve been reading) but his rep was partially his own fault due to a too publicized relationship with Rhianna (now over) and then of course Jeff Kemp didn’t understand those young kids, etc. A lot of it was unfair stereotypes. He could probably still work harder, and stand to improve on some things, but yeah, not all quite fair there

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course, he's like what, 25 years old? Hardly the age when he'd be the most disciplined person

Hope he turns out the way you want, because he definitely has talent and skills. Would be fun to see a budding Kemp/CarGo rivalry for a few years.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't he move someones trashcan or something?

kids these days

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Jeff Kent I meant btw, but I guess everyone figured that out

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing is, nobody knows much about Kemp. None of us has any idea what to expect from him this year. I really hope for a bounce-back year — something close to what he did in ‘09 — but it might not happen, and if it doesn’t, I’ll be disappointed but not surprised.

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say BABIP has got nothing whatsoever to do with how hard you work.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously he doesn't hustle down the line to first

I blame Rihanna and rap music.

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember the time Kemp started to run to first and got preoccupied with the celebrity sitting in the front row and decided to party in the stands instead?

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike Scoiscisa

would never have put up with that!

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew I picked the right catcher for the Dodgers All-Spelling-Bee Team. ;-)

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by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course it doesn't.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

No, there's plenty enough to blame on Rihanna

Dude’s gotta eat somewhere.

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

And yes, his BABIP is high. It will be when you crush the kind of line drives he does…

Among 149 qualified batters in MLB, CarGo was 21st in line drive percentage, at 20.8%, tied with Chone Figgins.

CarGo was third in BABIP, at .384, and the next guy on the list (Joey Votto) was at .361.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

And Mr. Loney:)

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

So why can't a .360 BABIP be reasonably expected?

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by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Because a 20% line drive works out to a .320 BABIP. No one is able to constantly stay over .350 except the truly elite, and only a 20% line drive isn’t enough.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Cargo's xBABIP was .345 last year

So it really isn’t that unreasonable. Cargo has several things working for him to maintain a high BABIP. First, he has the power to maintain a strong HR/FB, especially at Coors Field. That prevents FB% from cutting gun down. Second, LD% doesn’t consider how hard a line drive was hit. A soft liner to the second baseman counts the same as a frozen rope the hits the wall in under two seconds. Cargo does hit the ball harder than not only average, but than any hitter I have seen in colorado in a long long time. Third, a large outfield at Coors creates a higher baseline for average BABIP hitter. Of course, he had a .375 road BABIP last year, So maybe he doesn’t just ride Coors.

This year will prove a lot, but if I were to design a player to have a consistently high BABIP and put him in a particular conducive environment for it, I couldn’t do better than cargo as a Rockie.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Second, LD% doesn’t consider how hard a line drive was hit. A soft liner to the second baseman counts the same as a frozen rope the hits the wall in under two seconds. Cargo does hit the ball harder than not only average, but than any hitter I have seen in colorado in a long long time.

I’d cut that one. That seems way too subjective and fanboyish. The rest makes sense though.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

perhaps

But when projecting a player, it can’t be 100% stats based. Scouts are paid too, and his uncanny lasershot line drives are what made him a superprospect. Btw, that isn’t my personal thought reflected above. It is a very common comment from opposing managers, commentators and fans.

If you must cut that, add that he has the best baseball speed (running) of anyone on the team. Those with speed get a little BABIP boost too

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 2, 2011 11:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Expecting a BABIP over .350 from Not Ichiro is a bad plan.

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by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

isn’t a good BABIP expectation somewhere around .330? Or am I FLORPINg again.

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

.300 is average.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

definitely FLORPing.

/urbandictionary

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

callback

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

From 2000-2010

Players with multiple seasons of .360 BABIP:

Jeter: 5 (career .356 BABIP!)
Ichiro: 4
Manny: 3
Votto: 2
Mauer: 2

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew that Jeter guy was just lucky this whole time.

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by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Jeter was only behind Rod Carew and maybe Ichiro in career BABIP.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

Kemp .411 in 2007 but only 311 at bats
           361 in 2008
          .345 in 2009
          .295 in 2010

I’m trying to find a trend here but it is alluding me.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember the xBABIP post?

didn’t it show that there wasn’t much of a trend? Where is that guy?

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

drop of 50 points
drop of 16 points
drop of 50 points
…clearly Kemp can expect a .279 season (drop of 16 points)

I do long for the days when the particular straw I grasped at was “Kemp can maintain that high BABIP because of how quickly he hustles down the line,,,”

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

My desperate line of thinking was more like mondogarage’s:CarGo

“He will maintain because he crushes everything he hits!”

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Memories light the corners of my mind
Silky water-colored memories
Of he was he was…..

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, I don't think he's going to sustain a .380.....

I do think he’ll be well over average.

But say he does BABIP a .360 or so this year. That would make 2.5 seasons at that level…at what point does it not become fluky?

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

When we accept that Carlos Gonzalez makes a better laser show than Rod Carew.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Cargo might be different though

If you look at his BABIP numbers by month since he was called up in the summer of 2009, they remain pretty consistent.

July 2009 BABIP: .324
August 2009 BABIP: .377
September 2009 BABIP: .324
April 2010 BABIP: .397
May 2010 BABIP: .329
June 2010 BABIP: .333
July 2010 BABIP: .441
August 2010 BABIP: .353
September 2010 BABIP: .440

What’s important to notice here is that his BABIP never dips below .324 in any of the nine months he’s played for the Rockies. If we saw a dip for a month or two and then huge spikes during other months to pull his overall BABIP up, I’d be more inclined to believe that a BABIP above .350 is unsustainable. However we don’t see that with Cargo. Instead we see a very high floor when we break it down month by month and five out of nine months with a BABIP over .350.

Do I expect his BABIP to drop next season? Yes
Do I expect it to drop very much? No

58 more days until the Rockies Home Opener!!!!!!!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 2, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm starting to get ticked off again about the Giants fans obnoxious banner on opening day

What can we do to counteract it? Send up a plane of our own to take it down?

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

exactly

They will always be whiny and have an inferiority complex. Let them.

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by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Or laugh because it’s actually kinda funny.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

This

because I know for a fact if we won a World Series and our season was starting in San Francisco some group down here would be trying to organize the same thing.

Ignoring stupid things that can’t harm you or those you care about physically is always the best policy.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Well we didn't do it when we won our last WS

or ever. And when the Red Sox won the WS , finally after years of frustration, did their fans rent a plane to fly over Yankee Stadium?

It’s obnoxious. Period. It’s not the end of the world, and the Dodgers can quiet it better by just winning the game. But I still think it’s obnoxious.

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Honestly

when you win your first ever World Championship in a city you have been playing in since 1958, obnoxious should be expected. Wait until you see how I act when the Clippers win in 2014:)

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait until 2014? We can just watch you now!

/ducks

<3

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Lakers fans are obnoxious every year they win

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

that shouldn't be funny

but it is

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Raiders ever win the whole city of Oakland will be on fire

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

why should we have to wait until the Raiders win to light Oakland on fire?

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Because then we would have to go to Oakland ourselves?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

but we have TOW missiles.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Oakland

… has a pretty decent Chinatown and I’d hate to see those restaraunts burn down.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

great dumplings and bao, friendlier than SF Chinatown, and you’re more likely to get stabbed!

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

And my sister and brother in law live there

as well as some other friends, so back off people.

(Note: Exception made for Oakland Coliseum. ;-) )

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I notice that folk tend to merge people and place all the time in conversation. Oakland is a city, it has buildings, and a high murder rate. Your family are people, who would still be people no matter where they live.

This also goes for M. White and the City of Portland, I’m not trying to spotlight you underdog : )

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

okay for *that* I would forgive you for obnoxiousness :-)

even as a Laker fan I would approve of rubbing it in Laker fans faces

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by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't LA have TOW missiles, and the like?

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the FAA has rules

but only for humans flying planes… this could work
http://wg.popcorn.cx/films/acs/images/plane2.jpg

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure the FAA has an exception for disposing of unwanted Gints banners

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

hah hah

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

We could murder one of them in the parking lot.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

not really

the story said that these 2 guys were friends.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Happened across the street from my old apartment in san pedro about 6 years ago too. 19 year old kids drunken fight over a girl, stabbed and left for dead on sidewalk in front of house. he didnt get murder 1 because they were BFF for last 10 years, but got murder 2 because he left him for dead without calling for help.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be wearing a Giant hat and singing in any Karokee bars that is for sure.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Alternatively: hire a plane to fly banners of the all the years the Dodgers have won a WS.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Now that I can get behind!

Or we could float up balloons carrying explosive paint packets, that blow paint all over their banner. Make it look like a Jackson Pollack.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, but we're too young though

The Giants have won a title in my lifetime, the Dodgers haven’t. The Dodgers past glory does very little for me.

Technically the Dodgers have in my lifetime, but I was 4 so.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

frank should do this

cheap way to score points with the fanbase. but hes too stupid to come up with such a ploy.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 2, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Or hire

22 planes for each year since 1988 that we haven’t

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers should sit on their hands and let the Giants have their moment, neither booing nor rubbing anything in their faces, and then both teams should go onto the field of play, because that Giant ass isn’t gonna kick itself.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, we’ve been blaming Loney far longer than Kemp.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s deserved it for longer. I’m still living off Kemp’s 7 June homers in 2007*

*some numbers in this sentence may not have survived my memory.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

He had the record for fastest Dodger to five home runs for three months!

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm still living off of Hee-Seop Choi's 7 HR in three days against the Twins,

but now that meal has been picked clean and I am left to gnaw at the bones.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

True story, his third home run to win the game landed in the section next to me. It was friggin COOL.

As the ball cleared the fence, hadn’t even had a chance to land yet, my mom says “Okay let’s go”.

It’s a wonder I still like my mother.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I was at that

game, one of my top 10 Dodger stadium highlights. I so loved doing the Hee Sop Choi chant. Cool part is that he did it against the same pitcher Radke man.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I def loved that chant.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

You can’t blame a guy that no one has any expectations for. If we suck this year it will be Kershaws fault.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You guys are too serious.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

If we suck this year I'm blaming Ned

pure and simple

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd blame the McCourts

Seriously, from the outside…Ned seems to have his hands pretty much tied here.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that 110 million dollar payroll

is really hard to work with.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Lets see

Don’t trade dewitt, don’t trade mcdonald, save 15 milllion dollars, spend it on something awesome. OOPS.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

a new house!

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

With a pool!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

And a baby’s arm holding an apple!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Feb 2, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

he wishes his hands were tied. We spent a bunch of money this offseason. If it doesn’t work out, all 5 fingers will be pointing at the fake hair, porn stash, ugly glasses and both cowboy boots.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Like many outsiders

you’d be blaming the wrong person unless you want to blame Frank for hiring Ned, then we can have a discussion.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

If Uribe puts up a .285 OBP in the two hole, that’s who I’ll blame.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

If we suck this year, I won't blame anybody

One cannot assign blame when everything goes as poorly as one expects.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Now with 33% more I Told You So.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I would like it noted how neatly I have covered my ass on this point. No one has I Told You So more than I have told you so, but I’ve also noted how everything can go right and they can win the World Series!

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

You can blame Ned

he has made plenty of bad decisions, bad trades, bad signings, that we can blame it on him.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I would blame the whole FO. Not solely Ned, but the point stands.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Ned has hiring and firing power

so still Ned?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Of the people who do scouting and are responsible for signing and drafting players?

I suppose he could tell Ned no if he wanted to hire or fire someone, but I doubt he would.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

One of the major issues in the early years of the McCourt era was the quick trigger finger when it came to firing. Now that there seems to be some stability, I think :sucking this year" is not cause for firing.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

huh?

Just saying in the end Ned has the final say on the players that end up on the field.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I dislike Ned as much as the next guy

but I would tend to believe a lot of the decisions are made in a more collective manor than just Ned ruling with an iron fist. He doesn’t seem like that type of GM.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Who hired/didn't fire the people he is collaborating with?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Its a vicious cycle.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

How long do Logan and DeJon get free passes for not having any real prospects drafted in the last 4 years outside of the Minotaur?

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't blame DeJon

he takes what Logan drafts for him. If you want to blame DeJon you can blame him for Lindblom but that is quibbling.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we blame DeJon for hiring a pitching instructor with the worst BB rate in MLB history?

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Who is that?

Vance Lovelace has nothing to do with De Jon.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

For some reason I was under the impression that DeJon had something to do with his hiring?

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty

sure Lovelace was here long before DeJon, and Lovelace is in charge of scouting, not coaching. I like to make fun of him because he really sucked as a professional but that does not mean he can’t be a good scout.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

My post above was mostly in the sense of making fun of having a scouting director who had no sense of control when a lot of our top pitching prospects have no control.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

A few years

ago they fired the dude in charge of coaching our minor league pitching because of that exact problem. DeJon fired him.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

someone is going to have to explain Charlie Hough to me.

Though I do think it’s funny/appropriate that Hough is no longer the pitching coach for the 66ers now that Haeger and Jimmy Mac are gone.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

What does major league performance have to do with coaching. Just because someone knows how to do something baseball related doesn’t mean they could do it themselves.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

wisdom bombs dude. this is why it’s a crime there are no female managers

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, until Touch By AM came along, females didn’t have anything suitable to wear in the dugout. :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

hey Majestic has a whole line of slinky women’s replica jerseys. Pop that with some hot pants, baby you’ve got a stew going

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Keith Hernandez still thinks they shouldn’t be in the dugout. Clubhouse, sure. But the dugout is sacred.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe true

but I’d rather have Don Sutton show me how to throw a curve ball and spitter then Don Stanhouse.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you differentiate that? How do you know if a guy seemed like he’d be good, but wasn’t, versus should have been good, but wasn’t developed properly?

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. I think if a system goes more than a few years without producing a MLB player (not necessarily star), both guys get the blame.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I kind of figured DeJon had a say, but moreso it’s a combination of Logan’s staff not finding the gems and us never knowing if maybe he did find the gems and DeJon’s staff wasted them.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

No one forced ned to trade McDonald and Dewitt

and sign Uribe and Gurrier

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

As noted above

if this team does not compete it really does have to sit on Ned. He was given money to spend and he spent it. If the pitching can carry this OB starved team then we have to give him credit, but if they can’t then we can certainly lay the blame at his feet. He is the one who has given us the Molina Trio (Uribe, Barajas, Thames).

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking back, I regret and withdraw this comment.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

genie, bottle.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Sublime

Just came on KROQ

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

Is this a new feature?

What song is on now?

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

FTW…this pretty much described every morning I drove to High School back in 98

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

you’re old.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn you both!

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t listen to them, they’re agist

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

elitist

That’s the elitist word for “snob”.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

at least I’m just public school snobby. Imagine if I’d gotten into Stanford? Terrible

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

You went to a private high school. You are a snob, sorry honey. :)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

and I’m in private grad school. Boohoohoo, there’s no hope for me

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I did private college and grad school too. :)

But I was in the mean streets of North Hollywood before that. MEAN.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t that North Hollywood high school for geniuses?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

…shut up

Even then, we were 200 students in a larger pool of 4500 with gang members! They were very nice.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

oh I remember, from Big Lebowski. You get like threatened by nihilists and stuff

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

30 is only old if you’re a woman.
If you’re a guy its still cool as long as you dont intend to try to pick up high schoolers..

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

College freshman are still in play!

or so the equation tells me

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah you’d think so.

But late 20s and 30 (since i just turned 30) is sort of a strange transition period. You cant really tell if you’re “old” to the 16-20 yr old crowd so it leads to some hesitation as to how you interact with them.

For example…I went to the mall the other day and bought some clothes at areopostale. The check out girl I literally couldnt tell her age. She could have been 17, she could have been 21…I had no clue. But the first thing she asks me is “Can I have your email address”…now normally I’d flirt or something and say something like “Sure, can I have yours too——just joking nothing serious”…but given that I wasnt sure how old she was…and that I have my own internal insecurity about being 30yrs old…I decided to not say anything. Bc if I had said that, and she turned out to be 17…she’d think I was a pervert or something…but if she had been 21…she’d have thought nothing of it.

So its a strange dynamic…Its probably the first time in my life where I’m not sure where I fit in.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s insanely ballsy for a 17 year old to do.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

What is?

Isn’t she just asking for his email to sign him up for aeropostale coupons?

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

Maddz with the reading comprehension fail. Must be the cat poop…

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I didn’t think that far ahead. Yeah, I guess that makes more sense.

I also enjoy that you think he wears aeropostale.

To be fair, as long as you weren’t like OH HEY GUESS WHAT, I’M 30 or look like you’re 30+, she probably wouldn’t have been creeped out.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh good lord, yeah, aeropostale.

I was distracted, there are about 4 different kinds of cake on my plate right now and I am just eating.

Won’t be 147 for very long!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol…i’m pretty sure she asked every other customer or somethin..

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was distracted by cake. My bad. :)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

If they are working at an Aeropostle they are probably in highschool.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They could be in college

college girls as I recall worked in all sorts of horrible clothing shops.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I live in Champaign IL and its a college town so alot of the workers at the mall I think are college students.

High Schoolers get more of the crappy food service jobs I think. Dept store and clothing stores I think try to employ college kids first.

I worked at Dicks Sporting Goods in college and we didnt have any high schoolers that worked there. But since we sold guns, it may have been a rule you had to be 18..not sure.

I also worked at Red Lobster and some of the hostesses were high schoolers….but you had to be at least 18 to be a server…i think probably due to serving alcohol.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hostess at chain restaurant is high on the list of people I assume is a high schooler. #1 is movie theater worker. (I don’t go to fast-food places much, is that still up there too?)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

You know, what’s sad is that a lot of my friends in high school didn’t have jobs in high school.

Laser tag is a good bet too. :D

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

My daughter’s first job was as a HS senior, hostessing at Red Robin.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

the one in the Redondo Beach Gang Hangout South Bay Galleria?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s only high quality restaurants like Red Robin there.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

when you walk into a mall and are greeted by giant signs warning you about possible death by urchin, you’re in the wrong mall.

(I dunno if the sign is still there, this was like seven years ago)

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait what?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

when you walked into the South Bay Galleria there used to be at least a sign talking about the recent gang violence and things to avoid doing to attract attention, something to that effect.

Urchin=mischievous young child, in case that was the confusing part. Not a sea urchin

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve gone to that mall my whole life and I’ve never seen that sign or a Red Lobster. I’ve been living a lie.

And you can see how Red Lobster talk would get me thinking about the wrong kind of urchin.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You really are confused. Working too many hours? Need to get out of that basement? Red Lobster or Red Robin?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And y’all were giving me crap about my reading comprehension!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair I…shit I have nothing. I even mentioned Red Robin myself.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh god dammit.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

but maybe I totallies made up that sign, I do have a very vivid imagination

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Northridge. South Bay is a long commute from the SFV for a HSers part-time job!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

right, I keep forgetting you’re not a south bay guy, cause of your job. Apparently people commute to those things now. Crazy!

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

and because of my daughter, now an LMU chick.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I recently found the on campus LMU bar. I’m all sorts of ready to bring the [college] to LMU

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is it? Is it in U Hall? Maybe near the Lion Restaurant (is that what it’s called?)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s in the dorms, uh, across from the Basketball Arena

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s kind of an odd spot for it. Awfully close to the child care center, no?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe, but it’s only open 5-7, 5-9 Thursdays

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What kind of Catholic institution is this?? That thing should be open from at least Noon to 2 A.M.!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

right? but they have the best prices, two drinks during happy hour for $3, and it’s all craft beer drafts.

Imagine, two pints of Sam Adams for $3. After 7 on Thursdays it goes to the redic price of $6 for two drinks

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I got a mason jar full of beer for six dollars in San Diego.

Don’t buy a mason jar full of beer for six dollars in San Diego.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

But those texts were amazing!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the product of starting my day seven hours before that.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

mason jar ain’t that big, can’t be that much more than a pint

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Place by my house supposedly does mason jars of gin and tonic.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

In TN? Would’ve guessed Jack and Lemonade.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose so. Lynchburg, where Jack is distilled, is in a dry county. (I think that’s right, but I may have my distilleries mixed up.) That’s gotta qualify as irony.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

fairly ironic yeah : )

FYI, you will never see me within ten miles of Lynchburg. Read that as you will.

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I immediately took that two different ways.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nashville? Please say no.

I got a pitcher of mimosas on Saturday, had no idea those existed.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, in Nashvegas

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you take one on a plane?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha I don’t know. I would say probably not.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well you aren’t supposed to take Everclear on either, but you know…

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

oh man never ending mimosas. I think I mentioned before the college experience that begat

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re the ruiner of many Sundays.

“Okay so we’re going to go to the farmers market, make a nice healthy omelet and be productive. Oh hey, we just walked by the champagne brunch place”

And two hours later you’re at the beer garden/

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That is awesome pricing. Do profs ever pop in or is it all seniors and grads? How weird would it be to meet my daughter there to buy her a drink?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

when I went with Kaci it was just us and a bunch of seniors. I think you have to be an active LMU student, they swipe your ID at the door.

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if some of that tuition I’m paying is helping to subsidize that low pricing. You can thank me later.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

you should go to the pub and demand service, since you’re subsidizing it anyhow. That’s how I justify taking pens from the English Department supply closet ; )

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

from what I can tell

and I will try to say this as PC as possible, is that the thing most fast food workers have in common is their ethnicity or possibly country of origin.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Joey, you’re my closest peer on this board. I think I’m one month older.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess that’s true, but mostly because I dated a 30 year old and it was like dating a 19 year old. Ugh.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That man does not represent my gender.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I make terrible life choices

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

And then we learn from them and make better ones.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh this was a better response than mine

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could disagree, but the above statement makes it rough

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why I’m never dating again.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear spinster is nice this time of year : )

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Already got the cat and yarn.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

just don’t get too many cats, their poop makes humans crazy

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a bit concerned as to what exactly you think goes on with my cat and his feces.

But, ok. I’ll keep that in mind. :)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever, crazy is good look for me.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

See below…I retracted my statement

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, I just don’t trust myself to make a good decision. :)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Form a panel and use them for consulting

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

I had a friend yell at me today and tell me that I should listen to my friends more often when they disapprove of my dating choices. Like I could have predicted homeless evangelism in the Smokey Mountains!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Did they predict the crazy though?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

They did not. They just didn’t think he was good enough for me.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

How’s that working for IVDown?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It also describes every morning I drive to work in 2011.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Sublime-Peppers-Nirvana-Sublime-Peppers-Nirvana-Pearl Jam-Sublime-Peppers

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

That + either Florence and the Machine or Lisztomania.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Theres a couple other really annoying songs

that they now play nonstop. KROQ is just going throw one of those phases.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

KROQ was really good around the summer of ’09, when I was going to a good amount of Dodger games and they were playing local band makes good Silversun Pickups. But this new batch of indie groups, Phoenix and the like, I could toss their synth pop in a pyre

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The french are awesome, synth pop rules. French synth pop is even better.

Phoenix really is awesome if you ignore that they only have one song, even their less synth poppy stuff.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I will submit that I enjoy Passion Pit in controlled bursts and yes the French are awesome and their Stereolabs are fantastic

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Passion Pit does have one really good song. Wasn’t too excited about their other stuff.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

and everything is moving to the beat

and everything is moving to the beat

and everything is moving to the beat

and everything is moving to the beat

and everything is moving to the beat

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey are you hosting a Sports Talk Soup MLB show anytime soon?

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

ha, no, fuck that guy

he left me high and dry to host HIS damn show twice

We’d love to have you on Purple Row Radio when we get it up and running again

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Daft Punk fan?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really. I think the stuff they do is too simple for pure Electronic music.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Now if they collaborated with Kanye on all their songs..

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean

if Kayne samples them for every song

/glare

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

And he made it like a billion times better.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

You clearly need to go listen to Aerodynamic

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I have. It’s decent.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m an electronic music snob elitist I’m sorry.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m an academic elitist, so it’s ok.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Also you’re elitist about your elitishness.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Fact

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

My younger bro

loves them, went to a concert and all that.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah from what I’ve seen they put on a good show, just not my cup of tea.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

…DEAD TO ME

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

who isn't?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I honestly didn't mind them for a while

but they have been getting shittier and shittier and they haven’t come out with anything new, they just play liztomania every day 50 times even though it got old 6 months ago.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Lasso is pretty awesome, it just hasn’t reached overplayed status.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

KROQ was really good around the summer of ’80 …..
{old}

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t KROQ introduce They Might Be Giants to the world by playing “Don’t Let’s Start?”

Hard to imagine that now.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

KROQ was really influential, even to us growing up in Austin

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you saying it’s World Famous?

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha...I dunno any of the slogans...

…but I know that when I was 15, I heard a lot of cool music on KLBJ and KUT that was played on KROQ first…

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

They introduced a lot of stuff, esp way back when “Rodney on the ROQ” was in its heyday.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You talkin the Mayor of the Sunset strip?

by Grimjack on Feb 2, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

That be him. Interesting life he’s led.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I should listen to him more often.

by Grimjack on Feb 2, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t in eons. Think he is now Sunday night at midnight or some such thing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Heck, KTCL here was really good here around the summer of '90....

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

LIKE A RIOT LIKE A RIOT OHHHHH

NOT EASILY OFFENDED

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

You left out Green Day

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Basket Case and One Hand In My Pocket or whatever the hell that Alanis song is are, in my mind, two songs that reflect early adulthood.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I approve of that rotation.

Sugar Ray – Sublime – Nirvana – Peppers -STP – Jimmy Eat World – Matchbox 20 – DMB

That 95-02 era i would listen to all day and not get bored.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Sugar Ray!

ABRA, ABRA CADABRA

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Sugar Ray is one of my favorite bands of all time and they only had a couple of albums. Very underrated IMO.

Someday,
Falls Apart
Every morning

Thats what I call “feel good” music.
If you’re feeling down…put on some Mark McGrath.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Jimmy Baaaaaaaaarely belongs in there

bleed american only came out in 2001 and I don’t think Clarity ever got radio play

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Lucky Denver Mint was pretty heavily played for a while.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

was it?

I don’t think I ever heard it on the radio.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

hm listed by kroq as their 93rd song of 1999!

http://www.radiohitlist.com/KROQ/KROQ-1999.htm

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit that site is awesome.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess JEW (did they intentionally name their band bc the initials would be that?) was more heavily played where I lived in 2002-03. I like to refer to their songs as college music..since they were played a lot when I was in school (99-04)

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Well thats what I meant

they barely fit into your time frame from what I had remembered, though I was corrected by reg that they where played in 99 too.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun thread

thanks to the Rockie folk for coming over, as always you are the only other friendlies in the NL West SB Nation world.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

I thought there were a few decent d'backs posters....

Odd, considering how nobody in Arizona even pays attention to them.

I just try to stay out of Rox/Dodgers game threads over here. Probably a smart thing to do. TBLA is a fun read otherwise.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully you stick to the articles and not the comments. ;)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

ZING!

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Always a pleasure

I hope if you folks come visit it isn’t just a chorus of DODGERS SUCKSZ LOL and suddenly nobody’s capable of intelligent baseball thought.

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I never go to other teams sites to comment because I can be such a whiny bitch when other teams fans come to TBLA or CN.

The PR crew is basically the only one I like commenting here.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure, I never go to other teams blog comments :)

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh, you're probably in 2nd place in the hated department, no?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

nope

I’m 95% sure we’re on top after 2010

HUMIDORFUCKCHEATERSFUCKJUICEDFUCKBALLSFUCKJESUSFUCKTEAM

by Andrew Martin on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get it. They won the world series, why would they have beef with your cigar preservation system?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Because Timmeh Lincecum is actually a fairly not-so-bright individual

And thinks the humidor dries out ze baseballz.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

well he is the one touching the dry balls. Maybe the balls just feel a little cracky to his touch?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

he's just mad

because he crashed before the game

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

maybe

i was referring to him coming down from his high. not being a pot-smoker i don’t know all the lingo.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

They may technically hate the Dodgers more because of history and tradition.

But the Rockies are more in their head currently, and they’re definitely not fond of PR.

by holly96 on Feb 2, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

what does that even mean? Until they start selling Beat the Rockies cups at Big Phone, I’m pretty sure we’re enemy #1. Hell, after the WS clincher, fans started chanting Beat LA. AFTER WINNING THE WORLD SERIES!

But, you’re right that’s a technicality

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Are we really arguing

about who is hated more by MCC? Really?

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

until you called it into question, it seemed like the thing to do

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate the Rockies!

Seriously, I do.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

And that's fine, we're supposed to be rivals.

I have a healthy respect for the Dodgers.

I also dislike the Dodgers.

I also like TBLA.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

So does Uncle Google

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Feb 2, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Basically, they think we cheat.

And they’re convinced they always lose at Coors in horrible, horrible ways.

But yeah, I think it’s more of a current fad than anything that would really unseat the Dodgers.

by holly96 on Feb 2, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Well at least we can all agree that the Giants and their fans are wankers.

Next topic.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Do Padre's fans exist?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

is San Diego a real place or just part of Los Angelandia?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah but you can't see 'em

when they wear those camo jerseys they disappear into the background as if no one… were.. there… It’s eerie.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

outfield logos, cut into the grass. Cool feature or annoying annoyance?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Why would that bother anyone?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I approve of grass cut art.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I’m the only person in history to get banned and then reinstated at MCC

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

of course D Young holds that distinction for TBLA

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Not singularly though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven't been reinstated, and will never ask to be

I’m no masochist.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

oh I didn’t ask to be reinstated, hence the rarity of the scenario

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Their skin is really a lot thinner than their bravado indicates

I chalk it up to all the helium and paint sniffing.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

You forgot window licking ;)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Feb 2, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

xeifrank, too, no? or is he still banned there?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Unbanned

and a semi-regular guest there.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Have to wait for the movie

Angelina Jolie plays the part of madzz, Grant’s hot and steamy lover. Brad Pitt plays the part of a nerdy stat wizard who gets banned at MCC for being a Dodgers fan.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hell, I rec’d it.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I get played by Angie?! YES, MY LIFE IS AWESOME

But also if I ever meet Grant, I am going to turn BRIGHT red because some things cannot be unseen

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

MCC just takes some getting use to

Grant probably has the best sense of humor of any SBN moderator out there. His most recent caption headline about the 2010 World Series being staged in a Hollywood sound stage is great.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Grant's not their problem by a longshot

The problem is, he’s surrounded by people who are Gints fans. That’s a lot of psychological damage to be burdened with.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The level of self deprecation illustrated by MCC and (grant) in particular leads me to completely enjoy his website and articles.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Grant is a great writer, this is true

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

This is no 4chan wannabee!

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't speak for everyone but I'm sure if Dodger fans come there and type those kinds of things

they won’t be regular TBLA readers. More likely Yahoo(s) or Dodgers.com

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Or MCCers in disguise.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

we actually had

a giant fan here the other day when there was a preview for them. Civil conversation was had.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Every nation has an ambassador

Doesn’t mean I’d want to live there or even be a tourist.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

FUCK!!

LOLDodgers!

[insert LOLCat pic]

/end, impersonation

(The blogger there is very good though.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You didn't cuss at martin dude

otherwise, NAILED IT.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

With Martin going to the Yankees

Giant fan cusses Martin
Dodger fan cusses Martin
Peace on Earth at last!

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Grant's pretty funny

He’s just got a legion of assholes following his trail of breadcrumbs, however. And really really turribad balloon pilots.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Grant is awesome and I totally didn’t have a sex dream about him. :(

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

But only on the Row...

…can you write an article of 15 dick jokes without ever mentioning dick.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Haven't read it yet

I can’t stay out of the comment threads long enough.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, ever since teh internetz froze in the -352 wind chill last night....

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, hey, 1 and a half seasons with the same team is a really long time.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

If Kobe is your teammate it is like twice as long

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

It only feels like a long time to him because he hasn't had any 10-20 games suspensions yet this year.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Shocking

we will give you Gomes for him, the Clippers need someone to kick someone’s ass.

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Would rather have Bledsoe.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I would LOVE Artest on the Clippers.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

That's good to know

I thought I’d just said something really stupid

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Artest is better than Gomes and Aminu, can hit the corner 3 and is exactly what you said, a tough guy who can be Marty McSorely to Griffin’s Gretzky.

He can be a chucker and he has other issues, but he would make a ton of sense with LAC.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Artest for a second rounder seems fair.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather give them Gomes.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers aren’t going to dump Artest for a draft pick, unless it’s part of a larger trade.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You saying Jerry Buss wouldnt trade a guy just to save money?

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The 9th or 10th man? Yes.

A starter? No.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Clippers have Minnesota’s first rounder in 2011 (top 10 protected), unprotected in 2012. Do they get to choose which year they want? I’m not familiar with this rule.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

No, the Clippers get the next first round draft pick of Minnesota that is not in the top 10. That top 10 protection ends after next season where the Clippers will get the first pick of Minnesota regardless of where it is in the order.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d try to trade Artest to the Suns for Jared Dudley.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

You’d trade Artest for a younger, cheaper, better player? You sure?

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The Suns like older veterany players – Nash, Grant Hill, Vince Carter…
I’m not sure how much they think of Dudley.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

They already have like 50 wings and they like older players because they think they are good (and Hill and Nash are good.) Even Carter was an appropriate gamble. The only thing about Artest is that he’s older. That would make no sense.

Guys like Dudley and Childress might be available from Phoenix, but not for another SF. I don’t see their being a terribly robust trade market for Ron Artest.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it then time for him to be Logan's Run'd?

calling Carousel…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

What's up TBLA????

How’s everyone’s day going? I didn’t get to read much of this thread…any main topics going?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Feb 2, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

just talking

about the Rockies, Several guys from Purple Row(the Rockies Blog on SBN) are here discussing the finer points. Good dudes they are.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha, Thanks Tommy. I noticed a thing or two about the contracts for Carlos & Tulo….I also agree that the Orioles & Rays are built for the long run….but HOW BOUT DEM DODGERS!!!!!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Feb 2, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Jason Giambi hit .244/.378/.398 for them last year over 176 ABs..I’m surprised he could only generate a minor league deal from them.

If that was truly the cost, the Dodgers should have signed him.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

Question to learned members of TBLA

Who are the best-known Angelenos who played for the Dodgers? Don Drysdale, Eric Davis, and Darryl Strawberry are the only ones that come immediately to mind.

by LA Taco on Feb 2, 2011 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

In 2015

It will be Trayvon.

by BFDC on Feb 2, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I was asking, actually!

by LA Taco on Feb 2, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The Duke

if you please

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Justin Miller
but only because Vin loved him so

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Jackie Robinson is a Met.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Willie Crawford

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Darryl Strawberry and Eric Davis!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

2011 Cy Young winner Jon Garland

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

2011 NL Comeback Player of the Year Jay Gibbons.

What will be sad is when the 2011 AL CPOY is Russell Martin.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

if that happens, do you think TBLA will join MCC in its hatred for J. Mart?

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to say. We’ll likely be pissed he didn’t figure it out while he was still here, but if he wins it while making only 120 starts, we may lay the blame at Torre’s feet.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

2018 MVP Mike Stanton

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Phil's favorite

Bobby Castillo.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Also...

Randy Wolf, Ken Landreaux, Todd Zeile, Rick Monday come to mind.

Plus Dodger fan Sergio Romo won a game for us in April :-)

by Nolij on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

eddie fucking murray!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn't there that long but had a good run:

Shawn Green. wasn’t born in LA but grew up in the environs no?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Orange County

DOES NOT COUNT!!!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

This!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Tustin

(of Anaheim) doesn’t count

by Nolij on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh crap you're right

Why did I think he grew up closer to LA?

Yah, screw that. (I still like him though.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: USA Today article

today quotes my g/f in piece on tech overload, something we all can relate to. but they couldn’t mention that she works in PR.
anyway, kind of a cool article
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-02-01-tech-overload_N.htm

even if it is USA Today. She’s scared tho ’cause in print edition they apparently used her picture.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

On a semi-related note, I saw a tweet yesterday from someone (I don’t remember whom) who said something like “My office has blocked Facebook, Twitter, and Linkedin. Which is weird since my job is social media.”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh dear. That would make life especially hard for them.

I bet their systems admin could unblock it for them in particular. If they were competent.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

This just in

Vanderbilt’s baseball team is populated entirely by dorks.

LOVE IT.

None of the guys in my class are in this, however. SAD FACE.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

Query

better Jaded TV Weatherman: Bill Murray in Groundhog Day or Steve Martin in LA Story?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Check.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Feb 2, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

This

Martin was a douche

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

This x10000 repeated days.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Recent USC backup QB

and former Arkansas QB Mitch Mustain arrested on “felony narcotics charge”. When it’s a felony charges, it often relates to sales.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

maybe he was selling to Todd Marinovich.

by LA Taco on Feb 2, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Selling prescription drugs…busted in a sting operation.

by Joey Joe on Feb 2, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Nolander took liberties with periods and now we’re all fucked.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT WAS SILVERWIDOW!

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried to defend you, but every comment I ever made kept coming up in the reply box. And I talk a lot.

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I should just go to sleep. Today is not working for me.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I did it because I care…about you and everyone else.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Aww, I’m going to buy you a western bacon cheeseburger.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently a moderator exercised his powers

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank goodness

We need more power mongering mods here, along with a little more cowbell.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce Dickinson approves this

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Feb 2, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Uhhh

Rihanna’s new music video for her song “S&M” has been restricted on youtube…apparently you need to be 18+ (and logged in) to see it.

I have this overwhelming urge to meet Matt Kemp now.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

BTW - Love the photo caption

which to me is an homage to Nick Lowe’s “Switchboard Susan”:

When I’m near you girl, I get an extension.
And I don’t mean
Alexander Graham Bell’s invention.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Fuckin’ Subway; they reel me with their $5 bullshit and the end result is long lines, stale bread and skimpy meat portions.

FUCK Subway.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Dude, you eat a REDONK amount of fast food

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true. I have no choice.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What? Do you not have a fridge?

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Or a microwave

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no time to make lunch.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I call shenanigans. I’m like the laziest person on the face of the planet when it comes to making food for lunch, and I manage to do it 3-4 times a week.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I just buy frozen shit and bring it in

its really not hard.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair this is much easier when you’re a student.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Easier to do when I was working full time, actually.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well it was easier for me when I was a student so there.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I rarely eat lunch anymore. I just walk up to Starbucks because I like to get out of the office for a minute.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

As a fat bastard who is also lazy as fuck, I call bullshit here. Maddz is right; it takes almost no time to make your own lunch. There is no such thing as “no time” for such an easy thing.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Assuming he already has the groceries

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If he doesn’t, I have a solution: play “Derezzed” by Daft Punk while doing mundane chores, like washing dishes, going to the bank, listening to GScott talk about pitching, or shopping for groceries. Everything because infinitely more awesome.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Don’t know what Daft punk is, but I laughed heartily at this comment.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re welcome. :)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

u really don’t know daft punk?

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

you have heard them 1000 times

and dont know it.

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

One more time...

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

/dance

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kayne West song Stronger samples one of their songs. Also we had a conversation about them up above with the PR people

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I generally z past music talk unless Eric and I are talking about the girly shit we like to listen to.

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

fags

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

During the Lakers-Celtics game on Sunday, I pointed out to my nephew’s wife that the Laker band was playing Bad Romance (could hear it in the background).

Fucking pathetic.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric, my love for you has just grown exponentially

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I want your love, and I want your revenge…I want your love, I DON’T WANNA BE FRIENDS

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

And yer gonna regret it when you're on blood pressure and cholesterol meds by the time you're 44

fo’reals, weight watchers is hard, yo.

I’m finally starting to regret all those Little Juan burritos I lived on in my 20s….

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey now, Weight Watchers is awesome.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, I've lost 13.5 pounds in a month, but it's hard....

….when you’ve legit never tried to lose weight until your mid 40s.

Just saying…if silverwidow actually takes a Lean Cuisine to work every once in a while instead of a foot long BMT, he won’t have to join WW at such an advanced age….

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Some Lean Cuisine's are actually pretty good too

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer the Healthy Choice Cafe Steamers, but yeah

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

too many vegies

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I call shenanigans

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't like broccoli

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

One kind of veggie is too many? Sir, can you count?

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That was an example

and the veggies that I would normally like that are in those things are nasty when put into a frozen dish.

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Naw, I just ate the Thai style chicken and vegetables

And most of the veggies were of the red pepper and carrot variety.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

*hangs head*

mumbles I don’t like carrots

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE CARROTS

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They are ok mushy and in soup

otherwise… meh

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

have you ever sauteed them? and with beets?

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if I know if I like beets or not

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

…they’re nature’s candy!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The next time I have a chance

I’ll take a big chomp of one

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

saute or stir fry it first, brings the sweetness out

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

oooeeeooo, killer tofu…

OMG, that show was totally vegetarian!

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

mushy carrots SUCK!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, au contraire

Crunchy and fresh ftw.

Mushy and cooked? Not so much…

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Congratulations! David Young and I are both lifetime, I believe. :)

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping to be...my goal is 40 pounds, but I may stretch that to 50

That would get me a bit under my rugby weight back in the day.

Main reason is actually more to support my wife in her efforts…if she can drop 40-50 pounds, she can get off 24 hour a day supplemental oxygen at this altitude. If me doing it helps her do it, I’m all for it.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Awww, extra congratulations to you!

As of today (though the amount of cake I consumed probably negates it), I have lost just about 50 lbs in a year. If I can do it (and I’m astoundingly lazy), you can do it too!

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

And go to kickboxing class several times a day.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The real root cause of that is “date two guys in a row who treat you like crap, get really angry, and then have energy to go to kickboxing class 4 times a week”.

Jerk.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You worked your ass off, it’s totally contrary to “I can do it and I’m lazy”.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite thing to do is lay in my bed and play WoW. Soooo….

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You can do both!

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, though I gained weight on my vacation. Need to drop ten or so.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

A couple of problems here:

I don’t like using the office fridge or even going into the kitchen;

Any lunch choices I can come up with that are not frozen are boring as fuck. Who wants to eat a stupid baloney or turkey sandwich everyday?

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Salad…pasta…pasta salad…leftover pizza…soup…

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I love all of those things; but I buy them ready made.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Is keeping your food in the fridge for 3 hours

that repulsive?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t want foreign stink on my food.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Tupperware?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

How are young people supposed to keep their food fresh?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Say to hell with it and eat it anyway.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I have lots of tupperware!

Wait, I’m not the best example of “young people”.

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Its ok

normal young people use tupperware too

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It puts the lotion on its skin

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The other correct answer is...

…make sure she takes a shower every day.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Tupperware makes you old?

Shenanigans

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Too radical

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I call shenanigans

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

i want to know

who YOU work with!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha

Ya, how nasty must this shit be that he doesn’t even want to walk into the kitchen

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to make extra food when cooking dinner and use those for lunch

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It's Subway

You know what you are getting going in.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not true; you can never control the freshness of the bread. And I think the “sandwich artist” screwed me over on the meat slices for real.

by silverwidow on Feb 2, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude if you flirt with the meat person you can totally get hooked up with an extra slice of ham.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 2, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ask her for her email address

by Michael White on Feb 2, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

hehe

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That's becuase he painted the meat on, instead of using actual meat

Bet it looked good, tho.

Is it ApRil yet?

Any number above zero is way too many days before Pitchers and Catchers Reports

by Mondogarage on Feb 2, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Subway meats come prepackaged. They just take that layer of meats between waxpaper and flip it onto the bread. There is no shafting involved. If you want extra meat, get the Tuna.

I try to avoid looking at my mother in the tits, regardless of the situation.

by G.Scott on Feb 2, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Who would think a 5 dollar sandwich isn't gourmet!

fucking assholes!

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Mintxcore?

I'm just a guy with a boomerang. I didn't ask for all this flying and magic.

by Maddz on Feb 2, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

mintxcore probably goes to Togos

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s because Togo’s is awesome, especially when compared to Subway.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If by awesome you mean expensive

and has a shitty meatball sandwich then yes

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

if you’re not going to Busy Bee in San Pedro, all you’re getting is doo doo on a bun

by Josie Becker on Feb 2, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

FTWMN!!!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

For the win Minnesota?

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Lighthouse Deli makes an awesome BBQ Beef sandwich with curly fries!

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 2, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The only sandwich I purchase at Togo’s is the pastrami (#9), so my view is quite limited.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 2, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Pawn Stars keeps telling me I need to buy a 5 dollar footlong

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this as Porn Stars.

by Grimjack on Feb 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

if your mom

hung out at night clubs in and around Long Beach back in the early to mid 90s I’d say there was a chance. :)

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, sorry that was meant for your comment below.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

try mid 70’s!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Try West Hollywood.

by Grimjack on Feb 2, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My kitchen: Loaf of bread, mayo, meat, cheese etc… Unit sandwich ~$0.50.
Subway: long lines, stale bread, skimpy meat portions, hair nets… Unit sandwich $5.

by Xeifrank on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

so glad you were not my dad!!!

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Song of the Day

Low by Cracker

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

New "article" up top

Time to reset the old comment counter.
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/2/2/1971141/valdez-is-coming

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

Mr. Fun Stopper

"The stripper pole is not that sturdy.. like no fat girls can go on it, but it would be pretty funny." - Vinny

by delias man on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

too soon!

I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

by nolander on Feb 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

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