Hector Gimenez, 25th Man?
The Dodgers begin a home-and-home of sorts today with the Rangers. Today they play in Surprise, while tomorrow Texas comes to Camelback Ranch. Old friend Adrian Beltre will make his Cactus League debut for the Rangers today after missing 15 games with a strained right calf.
Hector Gimenez starts at first base today for the Dodgers, his fourth straight day with a start at first (two were on split squad days) and fifth overall start at the position this spring. Are the Dodgers trying to talk themselves into Gimenez making the team as the 25th man? With the fifth starter not needed until April 12, the Dodgers can use that extra roster spot for the first 10 games of the season on a sixth bench player. I had assumed that could mean a reprieve of sorts for Xavier Paul, who is out of options, and would have to clear waivers if he doesn't make the team.
But Gimenez is out of options, too. He hit .305/.384/.533 last year, but that was as a 27-year old in Double A. I don't know his full minor league splits last year, but he did hit .331 right-handed and .289 left-handed last season. His 16 home runs were two more than he had hit in the previous two years combined. He did miss all of 2007 after shoulder surgery, so maybe it took him that long to recover; who knows? Back in 2004 and 2005, Baseball America dubbed Gimenez as the best defensive catcher in the Astros' system. I don't know if that defensive prowess is still there, but in 18 innings behind the plate this spring, opposing baserunners have stolen seven bases off Gimenez without getting caught. Maybe the Dodgers see him as a pinch hitter who could catch in a pinch if needed, an asset off the bench.
Then again, perhaps Paul and Gimenez aren't fighting for that same, temporary spot. Jay Gibbons, the presumed opening day starter and left-handed half of the Dodgers' left field platoon, will miss the next few days to undergo what the Dodgers call "extensive eye testing." Paul is starting in the outfield for the third straight day himself and, if Gibbons is out for any extended period of time, there is an opportunity for Paul to possibly seize.
Lineups
| Dodgers | Rangers | |||
| 2B | Velez | 2B | Kinsler | |
| SS | Carroll | SS | Andrus | |
| LF | Paul | LF | Hamilton | |
| DH | Thames | 3B | Beltre | |
| RF | Sands | 1B | Young | |
| 1B | Gimenez | RF | Cruz | |
| CF | Kapler | DH | Murphy | |
| C | Ellis | C | Teagarden | |
| 3B | Sellers | CF | Borbon | |
John Ely gets to test his unblemished spring ledger (six innings, two hits, no walks, seven strikeouts) against the Rangers' regular lineup today. Ely will be followed on the mound by Blake Hawksworth, Kenley Jansen, and Lance Cormier.
Neftali Feliz, last year's AL Rookie of the Year as a closer, gets the start today for Texas. Eric Hurley is also slated to pitch for the Rangers.
Casey Blake, who injured his ribcage on Saturday trying to beat out a bunt in the first inning, will undergo a precautionary MRI on his back today to see if the problem isn't something more serious, per Tony Jackson of ESPN Los Angeles:
"Just from talking to [trainer] Stan [Conte], they still think it's a couple-to-three-days type of thing," Mattingly said. "They just want to make sure it's temporary."
The Dodgers optioned Carlos Monasterios and reassigned Wilkin De La Rosa to minor league camp today, bringing the total number in big league camp to 54 players (24 pitchers, 30 position players). For those wondering about the terminology, Monasterios is on the 40-man roster, which is why he was "optioned," while De La Rosa is on a minor league deal and not on the 40-man roster, so he simply gets "reassigned."
Once Monasterios is in the minors on optional assignment for 20 days, which would be April 3 in this case, that is considered an optional year used. This is the first option used on Monasterios. Players can be optioned to the minors an unlimited number of times in the same year and it just counts as one option used. Jon Link, for instance, was optioned to Triple A on six different occasions last season.
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Vin Scully opined on baseball on television, and Dodgers VP of Communications Josh Rawitch shared the article on Inside the Dodgers:
One of the temptations we have today is like the song of the Lorelei, wrecking you on the rocks. So much is provided to you with statistics and information that you run the risk of looking down when a play is taking place. So you really have to be careful about that. Every game has somewhat of a story, an individual or maybe both of the pitchers. Someone is doing something that adds to the story. And then, of course, you can't go overly dramatic in fourth game of the season with 158 games to go. But everything seems to fall into place in terms of the schedule, the game, where you are, the history of the teams. And they can get dull. Let's face it - there are some games when nothing happens. And then it's up to you to come up with a story or a historical aticidote to add a little spice to the telecast.
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Game Time: 1:05 p.m. PST
TV: none; no radio either; game is available on MLB.tv though
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It was a sacrifice that nearly found it’s way into no man’s land in between the mound and the second baseman. Blake nearly beat it out.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric
and I talked about this after the game yesterday, in some ways, I think he is more of a risk of getting claimed than Paul has of going free through waivers. I don’t believe Eric thinks that though.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Gimenez is any good; just reporting on what has been a trend. They are clearly trying to see if his bat can play.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
How old do you think Saenz was when he had his first MLB season with over 20 at bats?
Also, Gimenez already has had a higher minor league OPS season then Olmedo ever had even with Olmedo in the minor leagues all those years. So while he may not be the Tomato at age 28 the Tomato was no closer to the major leagues then Gimenez is right now.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
What?
Also, Gimenez already has had a higher minor league OPS season then Olmedo ever had even with Olmedo in the minor leagues all those years.
Gimenez put up a .916 OPS last year, the only year he has ever been above .754. And he was in Double A at age 27.
At age 27, Saenz put up a .957 OPS in Triple A, and had already had seasons in Triple A of .762, .789, and .850 OPS.
Not even close.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was sloppy he had so many minor league seasons I missed that last season, what happens when trying to do multiple things at once. Guess my mind simply removed it since it was PCL based season.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
How many 25th players are any good? If that was the criteria, no one would be a 25th player.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
If the choice is Gimenez or Paul, I would take Paul every single time.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree, but I probably like X way more than I should.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
You still get the sense, Vin would rather do the game on radio
So where radio is the picture and presented by the announcer, television is the picture that is provided by the director. To me, silence on television is more important certain moments than anything I could say. So if you’re home and watching the game and there is a dramatic moment, it’s in the hands of the director. And the wise announcer kind of lays back and lets the director take the close-up of the pitcher or the hitter or the runner base or someone praying in the stands. That’s all part of the enjoyment of the game, besides the actual play itself.
If Vin only did radio I would listen instead of watching the game, because Vin on the radio was way better then Vin on TV, though I doubt he could do it to his standards these days.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Just saw a mock that has the Colts taking Christian Ponder in the first round. Just seems so…odd. You assume Peyton will be there forever.
For those trying to join my bracket challenge that posted in my fanpost
try this link:
http://truebla.mayhem.cbssports.com/e
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let me know how it goes.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
That works
Next time I simply ask that you ask us if we mind if you use our name to setup a bracket challenge, we have always done one ourselves.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Will do, didn’t remember one from last year. Sorry for assuming.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Adam Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Players Association now telling its players to boycott next month’s NFL draft http://is.gd/FnLba4
Uh…
On the one hand
there is no player’s association (at least as bargaining unit). And also, what purpose do they serve at the draft anyway.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I think this is referring to the top prospects who normally go up to the podium.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I see
well then that’s silly considering that the players are not members of the union (player’s assoc) yet and would not be violating anything by just showing up.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
So the draft will be quicker
with less silly fanfare. This is a bad thing why?
These hands will always be rough
Serioulsy. Do people think fans give a shit about what Blaine Gabbert’s dad thinks about his son going number 1?
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to say no
but since ESPN/everyothershittybroadcast does this shit for everything there must be people out there who care or pretend that they care when market research is conducted.
These hands will always be rough
It hurts the league by them not being able to make as much money in advertisements, i would imagine.
The only people I really see this hurting are the draftees who since childhood have dreamed of being first round picks and having their picture taken wearing the hat of their favorite team, shaking the hand of the commissioner.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
How will the draft work
With no guarantee of a season and none of the usual rookie contract guidelines in place?
They draft the rights to the players
and then can’t actually tender them contract offers.
These hands will always be rough
Vin Scully must have not enjoyed
No Country For Old Men.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
to be fair There Will Be Blood was much more deserving of the Oscar
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually No Country For Old Men
is a strange contradiction of what Vin Scully is talking about. That is a movie that tells a story with long silences and long shots, while having no soundtrack to it.
It would be cool to watch that movie with Vin to see his viewpoint on it. I bet watching a movie with Vin Scully would be exhilirating. Can you imagine Vin discussing some epic film with you while watching it? Lawrence of Arabia would be my choice.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
ok...so,
i try to keep up with the spring training games. and so far, i noticed (1) we aint doing so well, and (2) broxton giving up runs.
Dr. Keith will finish up Gibbon’s eye test and let you know
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
he got some salt in his eyes.
never throw salt inyour eyes.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
The only good news this spring:
1. Clayton and Billingsley’s arms are still attached
2. Matt Kemp looks good
3. Gerald Sands is owning up to his TBLA number one prospect ranking
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
4. Hector Gimenez, a.k.a. Vector
5. Rubby getting a start yesterday
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Hard to see trends with Donnie just yet. So I honestly have idea.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I know I want a championship now, after seeing those commercials
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
he sucks when his team plays two
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Because we have 50 something players in camp and people got to play.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
More game action for pitchers, more tickets to sell
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
We have a bunch of shitty players we want to make sure are shitty before we cut people
These hands will always be rough
by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
many of the games lost have been lost late by scrub players like Roman “Blows” Colon so I wouldn’t worry about the record. I wouldn’t worry much about ST stats either because historically they don’t mean squat. Most of the starting pitchers have looked good in Spring, which is more important, though a few have wobbled lately as they’ve been stretched. More worrying would be Jon Garland’s injury, combined with Padilla’s injury, puts someone like Ely in line to be a spot 5th starter til Garland returns. But most of the starters and starting position players look ok to me.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Also
the time-honored “because they have always done it that way.”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I enjoy the split squads when the NRI’s are not playing but the prospects are.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
to confuse us.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It makes more sense in Florida
where you have such long distances to travel and you still want to get game action for a lot of players. In Arizona, it is probably done to still work in innings for starters and get a look at NRI players. Plus there is the extra revenue for the teams hosting the games.
By the way, one byproduct of half price concessions at Dodger Stadium, ridiculous lines (even with a not full Field Level).
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
hopefully the DS folk saw yesterday as a bit of a dry run, can make improvements by Season’s beginning
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You can't really
given the set up. You just hope that not everyone decides to come at the same time or they completely change their set up for that game.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Brian Wilson
apparently thinks that the Giants will win at .700 clip this year.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
that the Giants win % will average at .700
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
it means they will only lose 30% of their games
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
No one accuse the younger generation
of not knowing their percents.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
The more Wilson mouths off
and the more he’s become a tiresome celebrity, the more I like it. Please keep it Wooly Willy.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
keep it up, rather.
I also like that there is gonna be a Giants reality series. Anything to make them overconfident and distracted is fine by me.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I had gone the whole offseason with no interest in fantasy baseball
now suddenly I have the urge. I really probably shouldn’t, I have a hard time making it through a full season of fantasy.
These hands will always be rough
I have never gotten the whole fantasty sports thing.
It bores me for some reason. But I am going to try this year, again, so I can try and keep in touch with some friends.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Fantasy baseball is way too involved for me.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much the same
I love it for a few month then get burned out. Fantasy Football feels to random to me though, so I basically am just trying to give them both up.
These hands will always be rough
Football is pretty damn easy if you read the practice reports every week and always check the inactives on Sunday. The rest is just finding guys with opportunity and good offenses.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It is about the only reason I pay attention to baseball.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a draft yesterday
And I really like my team, but then again I always do. And then they go on to suck.
I have a decent stable of Dodgers tho – Kemp, Billingsley, Kuo and Jansen (we have holds as a stat)
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 14, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Live
auctions are the best. We love each other at the start 09:00 AM, hate each other by 08:00 PM. Hard to talk shit with people you have never met, but when you spend 12 hours in a room with 20 people you get to know them pretty good. I’m still getting shit for winning my league while doing the auction in uggs two years ago.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a live yahoo public auction, but with two people I already knew. It was fun for a while because there was one moronic troll in there who talked crap about everyone’s early bids and then spent $21 on Jose Tabata. My buddies and I gave crap back to him in spades. That part was fun. Then he shut up eventually and it got kinda boring watching people buying James Loney for $13 (it was NL-only).
Also from the game notes
NBC LA is sponsoring a "drive-through" relief drive at Dodger Stadium tomorrow to help raise money for the American Red Cross Japan earthquake and tsunami relief efforts. Members of the NBC LA news team and the Dodger Alumni Association will be taking donations from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. at Dodger Stadium Parking Lot 1. Cash donations will be accepted along with checks made out the American Red Cross with "Japan Tsunami Fund" in the memo line.
Three minor leaguers active today (all infielders)
87 Elian Herrera
89 Jaime Pedroza
92 Travis Denker
podunks
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Does it count if we traded him to the Giants in the first place?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
First a Dodger though.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I wonder if Mark Sweeney is subconsciously giving him extra love in coaches’ meetings so it’ll seem like he was traded for someone who doesn’t suck.
Hey, Denker has an .820 OPS in the bigs.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
NCAA Tourney
Statistically speaking, you’d have to be crazy to pick a play-in team to advance past its first game. I also hate that I’m hearing the first round now called the second round. That will get real annoying real fast. They should call the play-in games the zero round amirite.
Why, based on fatigue? 12 seeds beat 5 seeds all the time.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
just odds
If you pick a USC to beat G’Town, for example, that assumes USC beats VCU. The farther away you get from the play-in, the less likely that team is to even be there.
Nate Silver says USC has a 17.3% chance to advance past Georgetown.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t pick USC though. You would still win if VCU beat Georgetown in this case.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see two 16th seed play-ins, but the others I don’t get — Why should they jump to 11 and 12?
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If they have to win an extra game to even get into the tournament, then their seeding should be 15 at best.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
NCAA seeds the tounranment so
the top 4 seeds generally play the automatic qualifiers from not so great conferences. USC could have a shot to beat Kansas (they almost did at Kansas this year). So you don’t want to have that as your first game for a Top 4 seed.
After that, anything can happen.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So why not just have the eight worst teams play for the right to be the 16 seeds?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
When I heard (earlier in the year) that they were having more play in games, this is what I assumed they were doing.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the biggest reason they made the switch is to make the play-in round more watchable. Not that USC is the biggest draw, but USC-VCU seems like something more people would watch than say Moorehead State v. Alabama St. (last year’s play-in)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Part of it is you never know how many
non-automatic qualifiers you are going to take.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, so you rank all the teams that qualify 1-68, then 61-68 play each other in the play in games.
Am I missing some rule that says a conference winner can’t be in a play in game? And since they made these rules themselves, why would you do it that way?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone loves the upset. nobody remembers USC beating Kansas, but they can talk about _ state beating kansas for 40 years. So they can’t get rid of all the small schools at once.
Bryce Drew and his six-year NBA career, making just over $7 million (per Basketball-Reference.com) agree with this sentiment.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, since the play-in games before this year consistinly of conference winners exclusively.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Opposite
Until this season, opening round game was always between automatic qualifiers, this is the first year two games featured at-large teams.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Here are the rules
from last July, when it was announced:
The 8 play-in teams are the final four at-large bids, and the final four automatic bids (by their rankings).
“The teams selected for these games will be like teams,” Guerrero said. “We felt if we were going to expand the field it would create better drama for the tournament if the First Four was much more exciting. They could all be on the 10 line or the 12 line or the 11 line. We won’t know until the seeding takes place and the principles and procedures are used and the teams are slotted appropriately.”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are some bad rules, but okay.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, so 11th and 12th are the worst non-auto qualifying seeds, correct? Then that makes more sense. But I think they should have made it uniform (i.e. two 11th seed games or two 12th seed games).
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well you also have the rules they try to follow
where teams can’t play teams from their conference until a certain point, geographic regions (though they are having both UCLA and UCSB fly from LAX to Florida for a late Thursday game).
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
teams can’t play teams from their conference until a certain point
Didn’t know this; when is that point, Sweet 16 and after?
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought they changed this rule after the Big East balooned to 30 teams.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, because Connecticut can play Cincinnati in the 2nd round
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t plan on it.
I can’t even get myself really into the NCAA pool. I planned on doing a bunch of research today to get in shape and haven’t done much.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
From wikipedia
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Championship#High_seedshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Championship#High_seeds" >Trends
Since the inception of the 64-team tournament in 1985, each seed-pairing has played a total of 104 first-round games, with the following results:
1. The #1 seed is 104-0 against the #16 seed (100%).
2. The #2 seed is 100-4 against the #15 seed (96.15%).
3. The #3 seed is 88-16 against the #14 seed (84.62%).
4. The #4 seed is 82-22 against the #13 seed (78.85%).
5. The #5 seed is 69-35 against the #12 seed (66.35%).
6. The #6 seed is 71-33 against the #11 seed (68.27%).
7. The #7 seed is 62-42 against the #10 seed (59.62%).
8. The #8 seed is 48-56 against the #9 seed (46.15%).
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
UCLA/Princeton from about 15 years ago was a close call.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean Georgetown / Princeton from 1989?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it was definitely UCLA/Princeton. Don’t remember if it was 1995 or 96, but the Bruins barely won.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
UCLA v Princeton
in 1996 was a 4 v. 13 match.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Georgetown v Princeton in 1989 (a 1 v 16) nearly had Dick Vitale eating his hat on ESPN.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there was a close call recenty (1 vs. 16) of Connecticut vs Albany.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Of the 4 times a 2 seed lost, I’m pretty sure I remember 2 of them since I had that team winning the whole damn tournament. I think one was South Carolina and the other was Iowa State. One of the winning teams was Hampton.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
One was Arizona losing to Santa Clara and Steve Nash
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely. It’s because it is predetermined that the Ivy League will only get 1 bid.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Was Richmond over Syracuse the first 15 seed winner?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes - Richmond was the first
1989 must have been fun year for brackets, both Georgetown and Oklahoma barely won their 1 v. 16 games, each squeaking out 1 point wins.
research is meaningless.
but i do have a hot tip on a perennial mid-major favorite who actually sucks this year. would not go with them.
A new rank: General Tightness
Jim Peltz, on Juan Uribe (and more):
Uribe, acquired by the Dodgers from the San Francisco Giants in the offseason, has complained of general tightness in his body but can still play, Mattingly said.
Uribe “seemed OK but . . . with Casey having a little thing going on, the last thing I need is for Juan to have any issues,” Mattingly said. “I’m more concerned with him feeling better before we extend him. We’ll try to extend everybody to seven [innings] tomorrow; I don’t know if Juan will get there.”
I defer to Humma Kavula, aka Colonel Clink, on this issue.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like Uribe
is our backup plan in case anything catastrophic happens to Blake or Furcal.
These hands will always be rough
Maybe he should sit in the hot tub for an hour.
That sounds like a fine idea for me tonight. A little j, a glass of wine and some bubbles….
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
How much more shape do you have to be in to be able to play seven innings of ST baseball instead of four or five?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey you don’t know how hard standing in one place and maybe moving twice in the span of 10 minutes is.
Or, have you seen Juan Uribe?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
Nice write-up on Gimenez. Right now, the Gimenez file is next to the Anything Can Happen file on my desk.
Since it’s not Wednesday, aka Surprise Day, anything can’t happen today.
by Bob Timmermann on Mar 14, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But they are playing in Surprise today! :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I pictured a very exasperated Eric, having to even write about Gimenez at this point.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to write about some of the relievers, but since Gimenez keeps getting starts I figured he was worth a write-up.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Use the Apple key in stead of the control key for basically anything.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks like this is a Gateway with Mac OS.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Then try the Windows key I guess.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Right click —> Copy
Right click —> Paste
This is the only thing that works.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh, Windows Key should work.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
While we're talking computers
One of the keys is loose on my Powerbook keyboard. Should I superglue it, leave it alone, thoughts?
Super glue and keyboards don’t mix. Best solution is to pop it off and then reattach it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
my little hard of hearing joke I play on people doesn’t really work on a message board.
If they move, Kill em
It, er, sounds like the mic is messed up for
not the lead announcer but the analyst (who sounds like Dan Plesac?) Maybe they turned his mic down on purpose.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Man I like Thames' bat
so he’s shitty defensively. So was Manny, so is Gibbons, so is Paul.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Thames is a special kind of shitty. I think the last play I saw him make as a Yankee went something like “two steps, right, two steps left, dive, miss ball by 25 feet”.
When he’s hitting dingers, yeah who cares but the man will disappear for months at a time then suddenly hit 9 home runs in two weeks.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
but still given our other shitty choices, and being prepared for those issues, I still think he’ll be a decent option out there until Sands supplants him in August ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Oh no question, I love Thames and he always ends up on my fantasy team. But because of that I know how frustrating he can be.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Was that stretch in 2009 when he had 10 homeruns in two weeks and his batting average somehow went down?
The guy literally either homered or recorded an out. It was unbelievable.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like
Carlos Pena, batting wise i mean
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Looked it up, it was 2008. Hit 9 home runs in two weeks and went from .261 to .254.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally. In two weeks he had 46 PA, one single, one double, and nine home runs. Even though his average went down his slug jumped 120 points.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing about defense
is that unless a guy flat our misses the ball and does this often, my mind doesn’t really compute bad range the same way watching a guy ground out softly to second base a lot does.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
out*
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Thames is really good at looking completely awful out there, which I would much rather see than Ethier’s “welp, ball is over his head, he ain’t getting that”.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
at least you get a laught out of it huh?
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like a round about definition of a DH?
by 68elcamino427 on Mar 14, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
the Dodgers signed noted DH Marcus Thames to be part of the left field solution.
by yours truly.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
SANDS ALERT!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Flies out down right field line
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
ASU has never won the Pac 10, I know that.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
An Arizona alum
would know this.
ASU is correct.
Arizona has been to 4, Cal 3, Oregon State, Stanford and USC have been twice, Oregon, Washington and Washington State once.
UCLA has been to 18 (though 1980 has been vacated so they in some accounts they have been to 17).
Colorado and Utah? You wrote Pac-10 (12)
Colorado in the mid-50s at least. Wasn’t Utah there somewhat recently?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Utah went all the way to the finals sometime in the 2000s with Bogut.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
1998
Lost to Kentucky. Only Tourney I’ve ever been to. Utah demolishing [top seeded?] Arizona was memorable.
yep. Defending champs with everyone back. That loss made me angry.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Utah has been to
4 Final Four, last one in 1998 (Andre Miller led team with Michael Doleac, lost to Kentucky in Championship game). Colorado last appearance was in 1955.
Doleac was a beast. Just a great team. I rooted for them to outlast Kentucky, and they almost did. Up by 10 at one point, but Kentucky’s depth won out. Great job of coaching by Tubby. In the regional, they were amazing. The crowd was stunned. Nobody gave them much of a shot against Arizona and they ran them (sorry K3vo).
Arizona State,
Washington State and USC never won a Pac-8 or Pac-10 Regular Season Title in Men’s basketball. I
Since 1968-1969
UCLA – 10 Regular Season Pac-8 titles
No other team won a Pac-8 title
Since 1978-1979
UCLA – 10 Regular Season Pac-10 titles
Arizona – 9
Oregon State – 4
Stanford – 4
Washington – 3
Oregon – 1
Cal – 1
2010 baby! Cal barely gets on the list : )
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
list is incorrect. Arizona has 12
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say three of those were WAC titles or whatever conference they were in pre-Pac
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
neg. 12 pac 10 titles
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
with this year, whoops, 10 outright, 2 ties. Okay I’m straight
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So
Basically Arizona has been the best team in the Pac-10 since they joined
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
yup, with UCLA still having it’s UCLA-ness
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Not exactly
Conference wins since 1979
UCLA 410
Arizona 400
Stanford 320
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Washington 287
Cal 282
USC 275
Oregon St. 266
Arizona St. 265
Oregon 248
Washington St. 226
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Both programs similar that up to this point in Pac-10 post-season play
Each school has 12 Sweet Sixteens, 7 Elite 8s, 4 Final Fours, 1 Title (did not count 1980, UCLA vacated one 1 Sweet Sixteen, Elite 8 and Final Four appearance that year). Arizona won 4 Pac-10 Post-season tournaments, UCLA won 3.
In 1984, USC and Washington State were co-Pac-10 champs at 13-5.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
wherever BH got his numbers from, they don’t count split titles. Cal football of 2006 says boo to that!
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s why this kind of Q is always a trick question. There was a time, the 40s and 50s, when the NIT was more prestigious than the NCAA tournament.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
True though
NCAA was not the same tournament it is today.
Al McGuire once spurned an NCAA bid and played in the NIT (1970). He could not do that today.
Just because I find it a super interesting read
http://www.pac-10.org/portals/7/images/MBasketball/2010-11media-guide/4-10-11-History.pdf
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We're watching the simpsons in class, i'll give you guys a hint of which show i'm watching
“Dental plan!.. Lisa needs braces. Dental plan! Lisa needs braces…” (lol)
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
oneof the best!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Big Book
of British Smiles. (lol)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s one hell of an education you’re getting
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Vector!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Baserunning Fail!
He’s lucky Larry Bowa isn’t still around.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I am not sure what this means
when I am guessing Kemp and Ethier would be 0-2 if they were playing today.
Rangers announcer Tom Grieve was not a fan of that double. He said it was a lazy fly that should have been caught (grieve was probably right).
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 1:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m also inclined to agree with Grieve
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Not news
chorizo and eggs with cheddar and hash browns in a tortilla makes for a great meal.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Chorizo makes anything better.
Thanks again for the Jack, BTW.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry I missed the fun
in all seriousness, Happy Birthday, I did think you would have enjoyed the Freaks and Geeks/Undeclared panel that night.
Would have loved and would have felt much better the next day.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
oh pobrecito, did all the plans to moderate go down in flames?
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Not terribly, thanks to Daylight Savings I didn’t get out of bed until four but I was in better shape than some of the other attendees.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
In drinking Josie singing voice
Breakfast Burrito, you’re so neat-o!
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I still love that Beavis and Butthead where they get served a breakfast burrito by Stewart’s mom. Butthead can’t believe there’s like eggs and stuff in there.
new episodes in the chute.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Ely looking beastly until Nelson Cruz hit the ball real hard for a base hit. And David Murphy (truly) took Ely to the gap.
Well I'll be damned.
Never thought I would be watching a Dodger game on my phone.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
yep.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
my brother just gone one of thems
they nice
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What specifically is the problem? They aren’t blacking out any spring games
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I love it, it's amazing
Except the part where it drained 5% of my batter with 5 minutes of use
by Julio Nievas on Mar 14, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
red tag
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Manuel Banuelos
will be pitching tonight against the Red Sox on ESPN2 at 4pm if peeps want to see the guy who’s better than Kershaw.
Are you referencing from that piece Rosenthal posted earlier?
by Julio Nievas on Mar 14, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
it's nothing
that hasn’t been said here before.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ely Fail and MLBTV Fail at the same time
so maybe that’s a sign I should get back to work.
Bummer, John.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Dodgers seem to have found a way to avoid the stress that can arise from winning in spring training. They just insert former Giant middle infielder Eugenio Velez. I seems like every day recently I look up and he is making the last out, or making a costly error in the field. I’m beginning to think he gets the playing time to try and make the seniors like Furcal, Carrol, and Uribe last longer.
I'm about to murder some ATT salesmen and bury them in my backyard
Sold me a TV package that had fewer useful channels than my antenna TV
Did you check the available channels before you purchased U-verse?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I told them I didn’t want TV because I hate it cable a thousand channels of BS…they said ah it’s amazing…you just haven’t had the right package…try this out…and sold me U-family….1000 channels of BS
oh yeah U-Family ain’t right. Until you get to the U-hundreds, basically it’s TV for people who hate TV
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
good lord
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A couple years ago I said something like “Tim Lincecum may win multiple Cy Youngs, but he’s gonna have a really terrible mustache at some point in his career.”
I didn’t think I’d be right so soon.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
he could totes double as a roadie for Whitesnake
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, he’d just look silly in a sleeveless T.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i’d suggest he roid up, but that boy doesn’t need any more pimples
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
Double high-five!
“I only saw you do ten.”
“It’s a running count, from all day.”
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta look good if you’re gonna live it up in South America.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta visit our Mexican friends from Columbia
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s be kind of cute, I guess, if he waited until he hit puberty to attempt to grow facial hair.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
by Maddz on Mar 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is still 400K but
Gibbons is in an odd position this spring. The assumption is that he is a lock for the Opening Day roster, but the Dodgers signed him to an unusual contract that is essentially a one-year, $650,000 deal but guarantees him only $400,000 until he is on the active roster when the season begins. That leaves the door open for the Dodgers to release him if they feel they have better options.
It is guaranteed for the minimum, which is $414,000.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
has Chris Davis
done anything today?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions
I tested my wireless interent connection the other day and realized I was getting 5 mbps
Hooked up a 50 foot cable and got 12. Changed to a shorter, newer cable and I’m getting 18. So yeah…stupid me for waiting that long.
because that’s where Donnie Two Times penciled him in.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
This is at least the second time today that the Rangers’ PBP announcer has said the Dodgers are on a split squad today.
First 3 pitches were balls
then a strike, followed by Andrus flying out deep to Kapler in CF, who took a rich man’s Gibbons route to the ball.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those to flyouts, followed by Beltre’s single, are the only three balls hit out of the infield off Elbert this year.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
is it just me or does gameday actually have full on pitch tracking today?
These hands will always be rough
If its working properly
Elbert sure is throwing a lot of sliders.
Nice
So we know he can hit 95. Awesome. :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
better than whatever gun was at the USC/UCLA game yesterday
i swear on TV they said two slow breaking balls at the end of the game where 101 MPH. i called shenanigans
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
worst replacement by a Castro since Cuba?
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been making the “trade Castro for Batista” joke for weeks with no bites so far.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason, I’m reminded of:
“well, I could tell you little girl, but the only people in this room who would understand are you and me. And that includes your teacher”
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Gibbons can’t see
Blake had an MRI on his back
Uribe was promoted to General Tightness
Elbert walked some dudes
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Steee-PHEEEEEEEENNNNN!
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Elbert walked some dudes
I don’t know what to say. Wait, that’s not true.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona wins, Dodgers lose exhibitions, someone got bad lasic, Vin Scully is good at his job
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
UCI is ranked 11
the Pac 10 continues its crusade to not have any teams ranked in the top 25
These hands will always be rough
in baseball? I wonder if any schools are looking at Cal and going, hrm, I guess we could do without baseball
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yes. Well you are ranked 25th
but I’m pretty sure you started the season much higher. UCLA and Stanford have dropped way back. Oh ASU is in the pack 10, so you have a representative in the top 10 still. Oh and Arizona is good. Damnit n/m, pac 10 is actually good at baseball, just not as good as people thought to start the year.
These hands will always be rough
Honest question
Do more people in the US care about soccer or college baseball?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey! In 1981 I practiced with the USA Olympic Field hockey team at Moorpark College. I got called for raising my stick above the waist to knock the ball down.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
huh, that’s kinda neat-o. possibly swell
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
(that’s my ‘closest to Olympic games participation’ story.)
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
My closest to Olympic Games participation story is when I asked out a girl whose brother would eventually go to the Games and she said no.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I beat a guy who ran at the Olympic Trials in the mile in high school.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just kidding about my closest to Olympic Games moment.
My REAL closest to Olympic Games moment was when I got to second base (different girl) at Jeff Blatnick Park.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, every four years, people care about the World Cup. If you count that into the average, it’s certainly soccer, yes?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
even w/o World Cup, MLS draws on a level with the NHL. We’re a much larger country with larger cities, but the Galaxy and Seattle would be in the top 15 in attendance in England.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Easily soccer. The Galaxy could fit twenty UCLA home crowds in their confines. UT has one of the biggest followings/stadiums, but a sellout would fit comfortably in MLS’ smallest stadium in San Jose.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Blair Field(Long Beach)
holds 3000, but even the biggest college baseball stadiums are no bigger then 10,000ish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Box_Stadium (holds most of the attendence records)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudy_Noble_Field,Polk-DeMentStadium
These hands will always be rough
the on-campus record for a college baseball game attendance (so that excludes CWS and teams that play in Minor League facilies) is 14,991.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackie Robinson field holds 2600 people
where did you get 1200 from?
These hands will always be rough
wait never mind you are right
but it should be noted it is the smallest park in the pac 01
These hands will always be rough
It’s also the largest park in the PAC 01
Only UCLA counts, rihgt?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
except it doesn’t, and it’s gonna be renamed the Pac 12 next year.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t one or both of the Big Ten and Big 12 keeping their names, even though they are expanding and contracting respectively.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Big 10 is a brand at this point, Big 12 you have a case for renaming, but the Big 10 changing would be like the Ivy League changing because global warming killed all the Ivy
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh. Not really. It’s no more of a brand then the Pac-10 was.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the term Big 10 was first used in 1915, as opposed to 1978 for the Pac
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Pac 12 needs a leaders and a legends division.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s just an argument to keep the name of whatever the PAC 10 was called in 1915.
If they move, Kill em
And that would have made more sense than keeping the Big Ten name after all these years.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
the Pacific Coast Conference, and it included Idaho and Montana. It’s more of an argument for Coca-Cola not to rename itself Crazy Cola
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I would drink crazy cola.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
True or False: All cola is crazy.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m showing the Big Ten went back to being called the Big Nine after Chicago left in the 40s.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I never said it was continuous, just the first use of the term.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
If your conference name has a number in it, and it doesn’t equal the number of teams in said conference, you have failed.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Big N (Where N= number of teams in the conference)
would really be the best to allow for a consistent name and keeping Eric happpy.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
so the Big 12 and Big 10 should just swap names? Cause that won’t confuse anyone
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
No I believe he was saying that should be the actual name
“Big N (Where N= number of teams in the conference)” I think analysts would get angry about having to repeat it.
These hands will always be rough
yep you got it
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, just stating the name of the conference might meet the schools’ mathematics requirements.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
on that note
I always find it amusing that no analyst would ever say Los Angeles Angels of Anahiem, but damn if they don’t say the Sugar Bowl presented by Allstate every time without fail
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
They know where their bread is buttered.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
my fav was the “Poulan Weed-Eater Independence Bowl”
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It sorta makes me want to gather up millions of dollars just to hear somebody say, “Thank you for tuning in to the Humma Kavula Clink! Bowl.”
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, in this case the game really is presented by Allstate
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, that’s a tricky one. The Big 12 screwed it up by stealing the “Big” label after the SWC died.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
well it was the Big 8 that absorbed four teams from the SWC. So that theory doesn’t hold water
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Shit, that’s right.
Well, unless the Big 8 naming going back to before 1915, they stole it at some point….
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
not til 1964. The Big 10 definitely has the rights to the “big” title. The first reference to it being the Big something was in 1899.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
that 100 Years war, a whole bunch of hullabaloo
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
And Gummo calls bullshit
on “the four Marx Brothers”
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
But Zeppo is in the best Marx Brothers movie, A Night at the Opera!
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The Zeppo Paradox
When X is the weak link, but the overall team is only good when X is a part of it
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
As best shown on the television series Buffy The Vampire Slayer and the character Xander Harris
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
wait...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Robinson_Stadium_(UCLA_baseball)
wikipedia can’t seem to make up its mind as to its capacity. On the ucla team page its listed as 2600, then in th article 1200, then later in the article 2600
These hands will always be rough
that 2600 figure must be non permanent seating
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Tons of people in the US care about soccer. Just not the people who access the mainstream media or blogs or whatever. There are a lot of non-white people in the US.
Latinos, European x-pats, and soccer moms. The bedrock of MLS attendance. And increasingly, hipsters.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
"Hey hipster, you look like a tool
when you wake up at 4 AM to catch the Italia Liga A tournament."
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
because hipsters don’t have DVRs? I used to wake up at 6:30 to catch ManU matches, til I discovered taping things
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i think it is badge of hipness
to say you woke up really early on a weekday to watch your favorite soccer team 40,000 thousand miles away.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
when you have never been to italy.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to stay up till 2AM to watch Arsenal on PBS.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
i am just joking around.
at hipster expense.
i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.
by Ian Capilouto on Mar 14, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah iiidown! Rocking it hardcore. Wasn’t there also a PBS program called Soccer Built in Germany or some such
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I liked English football at the time. I was playing in the Tri-County league, 2nd division, and wanted to learn all I could about soccer Played Left Fullback for 7 years, till the knees went.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
it’s been documented that the father is way cooler than the son
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
A few things
Soccer should not try to be something it isn’t and for now and probably forever, it won’t compete with NFL, College Football, MLB, NBA, and March Madness.
It can get competitive with other sports especially with so many games to show from across the World on an ongoing basis.
But also, it is not probably ever going to be the lead story in major markets, and you could question should they try to be even in the Top 10 markets.
the LA Galaxy, New York Red Bulls, soon to be New York Cosmos (part 2) and Chicago Fire all say “we’re doing fine” the secret seems to be building your stadium in the suburbs
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If you want to take it that way. It is racist to say “People in the US don’t care about soccer” because there are millions of people who care very much about soccer who don’t read McSweeney’s or listen to My Morning Jacket.
woah woah woah woah. Now who’s categorizing who?
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The question was are there more fans of college baseball or soccer. Nobody suggested to not count latinos in the US.
by Michael White on Mar 14, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
we are in favor of the 3/5 rule.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t that the rule for when Derrick Williams can shoot threes?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
no that rule is “100% of the shots Derrick takes are good shots” rule.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
coughthisisgoingtogonowheregoodfastcough
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
A Villareal disease, maybe?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
an allergy to the combination of wood and rawhide.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
rollin, rollin, rolling, keep moving, moving, moving
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Someday, somebody is going to make a “Less cowbell — we have enough goddam cowbell” joke, and I am going to find a way to give that person 16 recs.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
When we face the Rays in the Series.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
pitch track
on gameday .. I noticed its a. working and b. showing questionable calls. is it accurate or are the stringers in spring training too?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 14, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions
trayvon had a strike called on him that looked a foot off the plate.. then he launched a pop out to the outer regions of the warning track but not quite out of the park..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The pitch locations are determined by several cameras. What the stringer does is guess, based on speed and movement, the type of pitch
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Very good.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
don't know if anyone was watching, or cares
but Andrew Bailey just left the A’s game clutching his right elbow after throwing a pitch.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 14, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
Fortunately if the A’s are good at one thing, it’s pulling relievers off the scrap heap.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Careful
Nolij might think this comment is racist.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn’t matter what he thinks, it is clearly racist.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
would you not rest in Banana Hammock? Bear in mind I have no idea what she’s referencing, but I love it conceptually
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
it's from scrubs
“I bet it’s your ability to thrive under pressure that led you to a career in medicine.”
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Either this means Maddz got an extension
or has asked Buzz Bizz Bissinger to finish her mid-term for her.
I completely mis-read “Maddz got an extension” here as code for… something else.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
and no, no extension
I wrote 7 pages in two hours, bringing my paper to 14 pages.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
So once again folks
always go by the date not the day when it comes to deadlines (or whichever is closer theory)
Wasn’t hair I was thinking of.
I read “Banana hammock” and “Maddz got an extension” and I put two and two together….
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand, if not for the Irish, we’d never have had the potato famine, and if not for the potato famine, I’d never have learned one of my favorite facts:
It is not possible to survive only on potatoes and milk. You would slowly die of molybdenum deficiency. You also must eat a little oatmeal. It is completely possible to live on potatoes, milk, and a little oatmeal.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
which is why the Scotts didn’t have a famine?
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
were they forced to only farm one crop? I think that’s more of the issue, there’s a reason they did that whole fallow field thing.
Also, peanuts.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
I just like saying “molybdenum deficiency.”
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw making an obscure reference to the Johnson’s dictionary:
Oats – a grain, which in England is generally given to horses, but in Scotland supports the people.
by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not really good at this bright side thing
But I’ll point out that the Dodgers’ B team faced the defending AL champs’ A team.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The bright side for Humma
is that Costco sells gin in gigantic bottles so one of those goes a lot further than the ones they sell at the grocery market
Clink, indeed.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

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