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Dodgers Notes: Ely Gives Up Run(s), Elbert Still Wild, Plus General Tightness

The Dodgers fell to the Rangers today, 5-4 in Surprise Arizona. John Ely, just like Tim Redding on Saturday, allowed four runs in his fourth Cactus League appearance, the bulk of which came on a three-run home run by Josh Hamilton. Ely, also like Redding, completed four innings today, with no walks and three strikeouts. For the spring, Ely has a sparkling 10/0 strikeout-to-walk ratio in his 10 innings of work.

Scott Elbert made his fourth appearance of the spring today, and had bouts with the strike zone again today. He walked two and allowed a single in his inning of work, but didn't allow a run in his inning of work.Pitch tracking was functional on MLB Gameday today, so we can see that Elbert threw 27 pitches, 13 for strikes. He threw 16 fastballs (nine balls, seven strikes), all between 90 and 93 mph, with an average of 91.2 mph. He threw 11 sliders (five balls, six strikes), all between 85 and 89 mph, with an average of 87.3 mph. This spring, Elbert has faced 20 batters. He has walked nine, struck out three, and allowed one single.

Notes

  • Jay Gibbons will head to San Francisco Tuesday to consult a specialist to deal with his eye problems, wrote Tony Jackson of ESPN Los Angeles. Most of the time during the spring, when speaking of "lengthening and flattening," it involves retooling someone's swing, not their cornea.
  • Xavier Paul, fighting for a spot on the roster -- perhaps Gibbons' spot -- had two hits, including an RBI triple in the sixth inning.
  • The Dodgers are playing it cautious with Juan Uribe, who has "general tightness," per Jim Peltz of the Los Angeles Times.
  • Tomorrow's game is also against Texas, but will be at Camelback Ranch televised on Prime Ticket. Clayton Kershaw and Hong-Chih Kuo are scheduled to pitch, as is Ron Mahay.
  • Tomorrow at Dodger Stadium, the Dodgers will be hosting an event to raise money for the American Red Cross to aid in the Japan tsunami and earthquake relief. From 5 a.m. to 7 p.m. in Parking Lot 1, you can drive through and give donations to former Dodgers Bobby Castillo, Kenny Landreaux, Rudy Law, Al Ferrara, Jimmy Campanis and Derrel Thomas as well as some NBC LA on-air personalities. Fans who donate $20 or more will receive two tickets to one of the two spring training games at Dodger Stadium in a few weeks.

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Nope

a panic alert for a game that maybe features 20% of possible players on the Opening Day roster.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who would panic over 1 single game?

Dodgers are 5-15.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then

if they won it really wouldn’t matter either.

The team could roll out and win every game this week and it still means squat come the 31st (personally, I would be happy with a split that first weekend).

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure there’s strawmen here and there, but I doubt a team that plays 250 baseball during the spring ever goes on to win in the regular season.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers didnt play 250 baseball though.

And the Giants won the Catcus League, and won the WS.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Cleveland did.

There’s probably some minor correlation between Spring and the regular season but not nearly enough to worry about.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll give you this…

If the Dodgers continue to play .250 when they start playing regulars more than 25-30% of the time, then I might consider worrying a bit.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joey, if ya wanna be pessimistic about the quality of the team, my door is always open and I have a cocktail shaker full of Aviations that isn’t gonna drink itself and you are welcome to it.

But YCTWHISTAAITTRS.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that’s not accurate, it should be.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can easily prove your theory with that link and 20 minutes in Excel.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

Dodgers are 0-0.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

just like everyone else.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we’re no higher than Honeymoon in Vegas on the alert scale

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the alert was because half our starting lineup is hurting.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Normally losing Gibbons, Uribe, and Blake would hurt your bench…but with the Dodgers it something else.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember when Ely didn’t walk anyone for a long long time last year? Yeah, that was cool.

Who's Dioner Navarro?

by Maddz on Mar 14, 2011 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Remember when Ely didn’t walk anyone for a long long time last year and the Dodgers won those games? Yeah, that was cool.

FTFY

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Remember when Catch-57 was going places?

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on Mar 14, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Catch-57 got name-checked by someone other than me over the weekend. I’m not naming names but it was Phil.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gilbert Gottfried is no longer the AFLAC duck due to his twittering about Japan.
 I disagree with this decision.

He made worse tweets after Greg Giraldo died.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Things I did not know until just now

Gilbert Gottfried was the AFLAC duck.

That should have been an AFLAC trivia question.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

really didnt know that??

by delias man on Mar 14, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me either

why would you pay a “name” person to say “quack”

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not that distinctive.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heard this

Iago is PISSED

Who's Dioner Navarro?

by Maddz on Mar 14, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

note:

75% of the policies on AFLAC’s books is in Japan.
’Tis true.

by 68elcamino427 on Mar 14, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

AFLuck, shit lost my job.

by Grimjack on Mar 14, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Making jokes about a tragedy affecting

thousands of people in a space of 140 characters which leaves no room for any explanation is a bad choice

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he need an explanation?

He’s a comedian.
He tells jokes.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a skiper that looked like him when I was aboard the USS George Wahington (The Bad Apple)

by Grimjack on Mar 14, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just one note

according company spokesman – 75% or AFLAC’s business is in Japan. AFLAC donated $1.2M to Red Cross this past Saturday.

Also, I am not saying he does not have the right to publish jokes about it, just be prepared for the consequences.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has the right to publish jokes about it. He does not have the right to be AFLAC’s spokesduck. They can both do what they like. No issue here.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea that Greg Giraldo had died. He was funny.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember when we had six possible men for the rotation, a healthy 3rd baseman, a healthy 2nd baseman, and a left fielder who could see?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m willing to sacrifice Gibbons, Blake, and Garland if it gets Rubby/Sands on the 25 man.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rubby/Sands translates into “Cant wait to watch the Dodgers tonight”.

Ely/Mitchell translates into “Tunes in during the 7th inning to check score…makes token snarky comment….goes to bed at a normal time”

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The good thing is that

he should be able to go to bed on time since Chattanooga will be playing in a time zone more accommodating than LA. Except the Lakers will probably be playing some playoff games during that time.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s still ugly

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jay Gibbons was in charge of mailing Belisario’s RSVP to his visa appointment.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just sayin'

Monk is from the same country and he got here on time both years. A DUI can’t be that incriminating.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA Bracket Challenge

Sign up Sign Up Sign Up
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/3/13/2048764/tbla-bracket-challenge

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on, sign up. You won’t do worse than I did. I picked two play-in teams to win! I don’t know which of the play-in teams I picked because the program doesn’t make me pick between them. But I picked them!

Whoooo! Play-in #3, whoever you may be, all the way!

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I signed up, I picked against Notre Dame, cause fuck that noise, and I picked Arizona to go to the final four

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I signed up. picked all the favorites. can’t remember who won.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I realize in advance that this is probably a dumb question, but…

…if I pay for the minor league audio package — what is it, $5? $10? — can I get that audio on my iphone? Is there, in fact, an app for that?

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

That looks like a no — nothing there says audio.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe. But I doubt it. Unless the audio is in Quicktime, I guess… but usually, unless you’re talking about a dedicated app (YouTube, MLB At Bat, etc) the iPhone really doesn’t play nice with streaming links in that way.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two separate things

$20 for MLB Audio (computer only)

$15 for MLB AtBat on your phone

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I have MLB At Bat.

I’m looking for the equivalent — audio on iPhone — for minor league baseball.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, total misread on my part. I don’t believe there is yet an app for MiLB

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe this was answered above

but last year all audio for minor league games was free…although i never tried it on my phone so i’m not sure if that will work. the minor league tv package is what costs money, like $25, and i’m almost positive that won’t work on your phone

by Brandon Lennox on Mar 14, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, this is helpful.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, my familyt told me as a little kid that spring training meant nothing. Some where along the line of being beat up, by my rooting proclivities as a college student, I researched it and found that there was a weak correlation. I can’t remember what the important results were, but I am pretty sure that for the lowest quarter in spring training the correlation was almost perfect.

by Gen3blue on Mar 14, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Belesario
Padilla
Garland
Blake
Gibbons
Uribe
In a Dodger World where everything must go right in order for the winning to happen …

by 68elcamino427 on Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

You never know, sometimes injuries can become blessings in disguise:
1. Gibbons misses time, Paul wins a job he would not have, Thames gets time against both righties / lefties, hits 30 bombs
2. Uribe misses time, Carroll takes over, and continues to prove OB > Slug
3. Garland misses time, Padilla comes in and rocks our world in the five slot once he gets over his own issues
4. Blake misses time, Dodgers pick up Andy LaRoche on the cheap, he fulfills his destiny

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as you’re dreaming, how would you like a pony?

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Scott Elbert suffers a severe electrical shock while working on his pickup truck,
the result being pin point control for the rest of his career.

by 68elcamino427 on Mar 14, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kicked in the head by a mule, no longer cross-eyed. I don’t know.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Gibbons gets kicked in the head and enjoys 20/10 vision for the rest of his life.

by 68elcamino427 on Mar 14, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did he fall in a well when he left the team last year?

by keithc13 on Mar 14, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for this charity but who knows maybe the publicity will help?

On their homepage, they note that they are organizing relief for Japan.

On their calendar of events they have this entry:

UJA Federation of Northern New Jersey’s Commerce and Professional Division will hold “An Evening with Gilbert Gottfried,” March 30 from 6:30 to 9 p.m. at the Montammy Country Club in Alpine. For those who are first-time donors, the gift prerequisite to attend is $365, for those 35 years or younger, the pre-requisite is $180.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

So I hear

Rudy Seanez owns Coldstone’s around the LA Area.

by delias man on Mar 14, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Did your meeting with him happen yet, or is that this week?

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That certainly narrows down the location being how small the LA area is.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

“Cold Stone” Rudy Seanez would have been a good nickname.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly discussed back in 2009

Link

The franchise fee is around $440K on the high side.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

been wondering what to do with that cash laying around

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Coldstone I worked at in ‘03 had a brand new owner, she seemed shocked that she hadn’t earned back her $440k investment during the year I was there

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

right? Which makes me wonder how they pitch to these investors, she had an investment company, she had to know something about business

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roughly

I figure that’s about clearing $1300 a day to make that up in a year.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

A number of franchisees also contend the company misled them, giving them promises of profit potential that proved unrealistic or inaccurate revenue numbers from existing stores. And some say that they got little help from the company as their stores went under.

That sounds about right

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems if you are going to plunk down 1/2 million you’d do a better job of due diligence.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think it would be borderline illegal

if not just straight out illegal to lie to the investors about what other stores make, and what they themselves could make. Isn’t that fraud?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t sound like fraud. They said it was based on franchise reports so I’m sure SOME existing franchises hit the numbers but alot of variables would go into each stores sales.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can claim anything when I fail at something, doesn’t make it true.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea the problem would be expecting to be like the most successful stores.

I will toss you in slow-rec softball

by robotmadeofnails on Mar 14, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

WSJ

has some of the best writers in the business.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am an investor in a restaurant. I gave a few thousand to a friend who opened a Route 66-style American diner in the heart of Paris. I was prepared, and perhaps even expected, to lose everything. But the yearly dividend checks keep coming in, thanks to my friend’s hard work. He even opened a second location.

If you are in Paris and crave pancakes, or hamburgers, or drip coffee, stop by Breakfast in America, 17 rue des Ecoles and 4 rue Malher.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good for you

but no offense, the last thing I craved in Paris was an American Diner.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has to be cool to be an investor in Paris diner, is that how you hooked the Bride?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

this one?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

I found a picture of you in the investors section /stalk

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the internet, always reminding us how creepy it is

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

I didn’t mean to be creepy, it just kind of happened

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought it was awesome

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just riffing on noly’s use of /stalk, it was quite cool

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That quote is usually followed quickly by a person getting their hands zip-tied, on MSNBC

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So true

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, about that...

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like your new sig line.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

new? hahahhaa.... oh

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's cool

Such a high rate of attrition in the restaurant business; it’s nice to hear a success story.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice story

Restaurant link

After nearly two years in the making, BIA finally opened its doors in January 2003 (BIA 2 opened in February 2006). Thanks to his friends in the film industry who came on as investors, Craig was able to bring together two of his loves under one roof – the cinema and diners. Some of BIA’s supporters include the director of the film "Runaway Jury", (starring Gene Hackman and Dustin Hoffman), the writer of "Con Air", a director of "Friends", the director of "Invincible" (starring Mark Wahlberg) and French animators working at Dreamworks Studios in California. All of them can’t wait to find an excuse to come to Paris where they know a steamin’ stack of pancakes and a bottomless mug o’ joe are always waiting for them…

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No grand slam specials

11 dollars for 2 pancakes, 2 strips of bacon and 2 eggs.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which one is Humma, hopefully not the writer of Con Air, or Marty will disown him.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back in 03 it was probably not close to $440, 000. Still no franchise owner can expect to earn back their investment in a year, I smell shenanigans.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it starts with “you charge people four dollars for a scoop of ice cream, and go from there”.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is quit expensive

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell us how you ended up in this line of work.

Our family wanted to bring something fun and tasty to the Imperial Valley and we wanted to provide young adults a place to work and get work experience. We explored business opportunities that would allow us a way to help and give back to the Imperial Valley community and decided Cold Stone Creamery offered what we were looking for in a business.

Is it really so bad to just say, because I wanted to make money?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand the answer. Plenty of ways to make money when you have money, he and his family were looking for an enjoyable way to make money.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seanez made over

$9M in his career, let’s presume for the moment that he did save some for the future.

Also, El Centro is in the desert, not a bad place to sell ice cream.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

South East, South west would be problematic

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

and a Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory. Double delicious.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny “Polished” Banuelos just walked his third guy in 1.1 IP.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Martin meant to say he’s as polished as Scott Elbert

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolij thought Martin meant to say something racist, against Poland.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness, he did get out of a bases loaded jam without giving up anything.

He has nice stuff from the left side (92 fb, 81 change) but he’s no Kershaw.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I like to credit a guy for getting out of a bases-loaded jam, it is also quite important to note that Elbert himself loaded the bases.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but Banuelos was compared (by Martin) to KERSHAW, not Elbert.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I have misread something yet again.

I mistakenly thought silverwidow was crediting Elbert for getting out of a jam, not Banuelos.

Nothing to see here. Carry on.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

WAL brought to you Coast to Coast

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saying a player you are going to be catching in the future was more polished then a pitcher you no longer will be catching seems like a minor infraction, not like he went Carlos I own the Dodgers Ruiz on us.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Banuelos is only throwing 92 right now as a 20 year old, then I wonder what he can throw after a year or two. Kershaw throws around 91-92 now and only reaches 96 when he needs to. If Banuelos has a similar drop in velocity, I don’t know if he’ll have any sort of impact like Kershaw did.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only one I’ve ever heard use Kershaw / Banuelos in the same breath was Martin. No one expects him to be Kershaw.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask BA

Jim Callis:

I don’t love the Banuelos/Kershaw comparison, however. When Kershaw was the same age, he threw consistently harder and had more power to his curveball. Banuelos had more polish, though Kershaw wasn’t raw by any means. The 6-foot-3, 210-pound Kershaw also was much more physical than the 5-foot-11, 155-pound. Banuelos.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The man has six inches in height over me, but weighs just 15 pounds more. I am as small as you can get and still shop in the mens section (as opposed to boys).

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That can’t be right, Banuelos looks pretty average.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve given up believing Weight numbers.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

BillShaikin
The #Angels send OF Mike Trout, IF Jean Segura, LHP Trevor Reckling and 7’1" RHP Loek Van Mil to minor league camp.

That’s gotta be terrifying if he throws hard.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I ready “Angels send OF Mike Trout” and I was like, “Oh, man, did they get Pujols?”

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish Salmon and Trout had played in the same outfield.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

for the Marlins!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

TYG

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

gfy!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like Loek Van Mil can throw around 94-95
“I’d say I was average at the highest level in Holland, but after I signed, I went to Australia, where the level was not very good and it really boosted my confidence,” he said. “Then I show up in the States and all these 18-year-olds are throwing 94 mph, and I was 21 throwing 85. I wasn’t insecure, but I thought, ‘Wow, I’m not as good as I thought I was.’”

Another thought a couple of years later was more productive. The day after being lit up in an outing during his second season in the Minors, Van Mil was pulled aside by a coach who told him, “You look like you’re guiding the ball. Why not throw as hard as you can?”

Van Mil mulled it over that night and told himself, “Let’s get more aggressive.” Conditioning, weight-gain and technique did contribute to turning up the heat on his fastball, but Van Mil “did add about eight miles overnight.”

No wonder Van Mil remains a worthy project. Could you see any batter digging in against a 94-mph fastball slung from apparently halfway to the plate by Shaquille O’Neal?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110223&content_id=16713972&vkey=news_ana&c_id=ana

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember discussing this guy with my (now ex-) office mate, the Twins fan

back when he was in their org. Not the first Dutch guy the Twins have had.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Prior was supposed to pitch today but came down with the flu. Yes, really, Mark Prior.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

we were talking about him yesterday as a potential ceremonial first pitch thrower at the USC/UCLA game.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Todd Zeile and Jacque Jones did well!

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

was that Todd Zeile? I missed the name when they announced it. One of my Dad’s and my personal favorite Dodgers.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dan Shulman, Hershiser and Valentine are SO much more tolerable than Miller/Morgan.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Looking forward to Valentine this year.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine this year will be a lot like last year, with a pint of Ben & Jerry’s and High Fidelity/About a Boy/(500) Days of Summer marathon

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could go out with friends for drinks instead of the misery marathon.

by Grimjack on Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

you think I was miserable watching High Fidelity and eating Ice Cream? Seriously?

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I think that it is a great way to break out of the funk. High Fidelity was the begining of the end for Cusack. Well written and acted, it was the only movie that I have seen that I thought that Jack Black was well cast. I have not seen About a Boy, and (500) days of Summer was very depressing for me.

by Grimjack on Mar 14, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can simply watch 500 Days of Zooey with the sound off and be enraptured.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 of those guys should be managing the dodgers.

by delias man on Mar 14, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shulman is probably better than Eric Collins as well.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably?

Shulman might be in my top five MLB announcers right now. At the very least he’s top 10.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just being judicious; haven’t listened to much Shulman. He is excellent.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he’s the guy who worked the radio gig with Valentine, I agree.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shulman has been on Sunday nights on radio for a few years. I thought it was with Dave Campbell. But he may have worked with Valentine on some weeknight games.

I really like Shulman.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So for the first time in years, Sunday Night Baseball won’t be muted.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Shulman/Valentine worked one (or more) of the playoff series on ESPN radio.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Herishesier wanted to be a GM?

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

NTWT

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by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is the Reverse Phillips a sexual position?

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is if you ask ESPN.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he used Ng & White’s interview coach.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hershiser with a jab at Russell Martin: (paraphrasing) “With such high payrolls in New York and Boston, they’re going with unknown quantities behind the plate. Martin was an all-star but hasn’t been on top of his game for two years.”

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paps fooled Montero pretty bad with a breaking ball there.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Montero having a terrible spring

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's no Vector

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh well, no point in us coming up with more trade scenarios

if Dodgers show no inclination to bother or to be interested…

but I’m still interested!

I mean if they have Gimenez trying his luck as a backup 1b and Gibbons is hurting, and the bench is thinning…

(and Leon’s getting laaaargggger…)

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!”

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Looks like I pick the wrong we to give up drinking”

by Grimjack on Mar 14, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

“There’s a sale at Pennys!”

by EephusBlue on Mar 14, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can you not have interest in Chris Davis if Gimenez is getting time at 1st base? How can you not have interest in Chris Davis if your paying Loney almost 5 Million? How can you not have interest in Chris Davis if he can indeed play 3rd base and is left handed?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends on the asking price. I’m dubious about the Rangers’ ability to pull of a trade where they give up a MLB player for market value.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

the guy has a BB/SO ratio of over 4 strikeouts to one walk. It’s a great that he doesn’t appear to have any significant trend of success at Arlington but in reality is one strength appears to be as a platoon player against RHP. And while I know that could be done with Blake, I don’t see it with a team as currently structured.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see why not

I mean we talked about this a few days ago, we have 3 middle infielders who can play SS and 2b, so not carrying Castro Sellers or Miles wouldn’t kill us. I mean its not like we can’t find another shitty backup if something catastrophic happens to our 3 guys.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

preaching to the choir but could send that msg to Dodgers' brass

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did call the racist Indians cap the good one.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, his credibility before was 0, now it’s more 0

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say that his preference for graphics on hats shows a lack of understanding about what is good in the world

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

reminds me of three things – Tommy Lasorda, Fernando Valenzuela and the 80’s movie “From East L.A.”,

Did he mean “Born in East L.A.”?

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect so, but anyone who ranks the Yankees and Phillies hats as 1 and 2 has probably experienced some other Cheech movies, if you catch my drift.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I catch that drift, but I can smell it.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right?

If you are going to rank the Yankees caps #1 you might as well through LA as #2.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I for one really like the Astro's caps

also, he is so dumb he doesn’t understand why Houston couldn’t be the Oilers and had to be the Texan’s. Sloppy writer is sloppy.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Lindsey cut

sent to minor league camp, per Ramona Shelburne. She used “reassigned” but he was “optioned,” I’m assuming unless something else happened (would have to be DFA)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

How much is Lindsey getting paid this year?

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever the minor league portion of his split contract entails.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still no NRI position players cut. I’d expect Oeltjen, Sellers, and one of Closser/Espino to get the axe soon.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

until they cut pitchers, they won’t cut catchers.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gordon, Trayvon, and Hoffmann down to minor league camp, too. Per Shaikin.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hoffman……………..

    come
   
         back

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Guerra and Espino, per Gurnick.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I called it! :)

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that makes 48 left in major league camp (23 pitchers, 25 position players)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

23

to go
Our roster contest will indeed be interesting with the little injuries cropping up.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Sands

Very interesting that they sent Hoffmann and Tray down, but not Sands. I know with Gibbons needing treatment, they needed an outfielder. I would have thought Sands would have gone first. Does he have a shot to be on the opening day roster?

by LADMILBFAN on Mar 14, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, he has no chance. Kemp, Ethier, Gwynn, Paul and Thames will get the bulk of the OF work now.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

also Blake

no wait thats right having a guy with a bad back play the OF is a bad idea. Who knew?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

recording it.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the ending will change this time.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amazing how production values change in 23 years.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sax to Stew: I’m gonna take you deep.

Stew: I’m gonna hit you in the neck.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of our community may find it hard to believe that

on that day, I was working and I happen to look at the time and I said, hmm 5:00, wait , s**t, I need to get home.

Just in time to see Hatcher’s home run.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stew said he had no idea who Jeff Hamilton was.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he meant he forgot about him. Stew said he didn’t remember who Hamilton was.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Stewart was in the Dodger organization from 1975-1983

He had not pitched in Dodger Stadium since leaving the Dodgers until Game One of the 1988 World Series.

Jeff Hamilton was drafted in 1982, so they were in ST one time together and since Stewart was on the major league side and Hamilton probably never saw that side of the camp that much, they might not have never met while being Dodgers and Stewart never faced the Dodgers during his short stint with the Phillies in 1985-1986

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's all well and good

but Stewart was talking specifically about when MLB Network just showed him the lineup from that game.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe just not that memorable

he only faced him in that World Series, he went 1 for 7 in the series against Stewart. In the first game Stewart got him to ground out twice (once into a double play) and struck him out.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Later in the show

Stewart said, “There’s that guy again, Jeff Hamilton, that I just remembered tonight.”

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Stewart

“Until I saw the lineup, I didn’t remember who Jeff Hamilton was.”

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Gibson is supposed to be on. Wonder if they’re going to immitate the game and bring him in at the very end?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

When else do you need him? “Yeah, I definitely remember scratching my balls while Hamilton was at bat”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that we found out a new fact the other day, that he told his wife to go home so she left since he said he would be able to play.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang fingers

Not be able to play.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Davis was the 1988 version of Andruw Jones. Until Andruw would you rank him as the worst positional FA signing for the Dodgers?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Valentin?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he was injured and it was only one year. and he was cheap. I wouldn’t put him anywhere on my list of bad signings.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

How long was the Davis contract?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just two

987,000 per year

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only say Jose Valentin since he’s the only guy we signed as a starter that was as bad as Davis.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That could change this year

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he came to camp in good shape. He tried really hard that year, but nothing went his way. I really thought he was gonna be good, too.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the signing at the time. Young, left handed, power. Who knew? I mean what the hell happened. Done by 30.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strawberry gave us a great second half of ’91 and nothing else.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Samuel was pretty bad.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought we traded for him.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed we did:
December 20, 1989: Traded by the New York Mets to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Mike Marshall and Alejandro Pena.

Ouch trade, Pena had some good years.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh. And Marshall was arguably better than Samuel in 1990, albeit not at as valuable a position.

BBRef says that the Dodgers traded for Samuel, then he became a free agent and then resigned him. That seems odd.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No odder than Manny.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youo’re right. Manny’s pretty odd.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

(new keyboard……)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marshall was pretty awful in 1990 with a .294 on base from a corner outfielder and was even worse in 1991. At that point the trade is really two years of a solid middle reliever for an average second baseman. I’d say it’s a wash.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pena had one of those “hard” fastballs that as I recall were hard to hit. Man we were generating some good arms in those days.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching game 1 of the 88 series tonight, he looked filthy.

Throwing hard, ball movin all over the place.

by keithc13 on Mar 14, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fully accept that. But didn’t Samuel seem awful?

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was six at the time so I can’t say for sure but my Dad hated him.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pfft. Kids!

I’m pretty sure he was one the first Dodgers I actively disliked. I think I hated Glenn Hoffman too, though.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Samuel had all the counting stats and superficial stuff that made him seem better than he was. Especially in his earlier days.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hated Juan Samuel on the Dodgers. In retrospect, a 96 OPS+ 2B in the early 90s wasn’t so bad.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surprisingly better than I remember. You could do worse than a 99 OPS+ from a second baseman .

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 14, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like the 99 OPS+ we got from a 1B? Fred McGriff I mean, on topic, not our current one.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

*ahem*

TAKE A BITE OUT OF CRIME

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like the Clippers will not be making history tonight

Per Clipper Steve of SB Nation:

The Clippers have a chance to do something tonight they’ve never done before – win four games on a five game road trip. As sad as it is, the Clippers have never in their franchise history, even going back to the San Diego and Buffalo days, won 4 or more games on a 5 game road trip.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Mar 14, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Ken Gurnick

joining the Mike MacDougal bandwagon:

The first four starters will be Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, Ted Lilly and Hiroki Kuroda. Six bullpen spots seem securely in the hands of Jonathan Broxton, Hong-Chih Kuo, Matt Guerrier, Kenley Jansen, Blake Hawksworth and non-roster former closer Mike MacDougal, who hasn’t allowed an earned run in Cactus League play.

With John Ely, non-roster pitcher Tim Redding and Jon Link considered starters, the top candidates for the seventh bullpen spot are Ramon Troncoso and Scott Elbert, although neither has had a great spring.
In case you were wondering, here is an example of the MacDougall (the Scots spell it with two ’l’s apparently) tartan:

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

What did she wear under the kilt?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

MacNothing, made it easier for us to MacDougal

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW

The hardest hit ball by either team while we were at ST was Xavier Paul’s HR against the Rockies.

The hardest ball hit by an opposing player was a line drive hit to the 2B off MacDougal.

YCTWHISTAAITTRS

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I begin to question Twitter when my feed is clogged with Chicago Sun-Times beat writer Joe Cowley and Oney “Ozzie’s son” Guillen bitching back and forth about Kobe Bryant.

Let’s just say I don’t think either were in debate club.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

my earlier tweet got me nowhere, do you know anything about the Chivas beat writer coming over to our side to manage the Chivas blog?

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have heard nothing regarding SB Nation LA

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh. Well it’s always nice to see we snagged another one

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does SB Nation LA have to do with Scotch? I do like that this comment comes closely following the tartan discussion above.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chivas USA, it’s LA’s other soccer franchise, sister franchise to Guadalajara Chivas. Basically I’m gaining a SBN friend in the press box, just wanted to know if Eric knew anything

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

shit

is it bad I didn’t realize LA had 2 MLS teams?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It probably makes you a racist.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

not really, Chivas USA has a marketing department as effective as driving around town with your company name painted on your van. If it weren’t for the big door painted in their colors at HDC, I’d forget we have two MLS teams

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chivas USA should really play in Orange County. They would make tons of money off of the rich white Soccer moms and their kids that plague the OC.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where would they play?

Anaheim maybe since they have probably realized they can’t an NFL team and are itching to tear down the Grove.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

San Diego’s a better fit. I see a ton of Angels stickers at Galaxy games, and Carson really isn’t that far of a drive from Anahiem, we’re kinda smack dab in the middle of DS and AS

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orange County folk are fickle

sign a David Beckham and they’ll be all over Chivas

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

they should move the Galaxy to OC and leave Chivas as LA’s team. Would seem to go after demographics and stereotypes better.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chivas should move to East LA, at that rate

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

and have Michael Imperioli do commercials for them.

“Can your soccer team kick you a shot on goal?”
[kicks Beckham jersey off the table]
“Oops”

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so

otherwise I might have to switch my rooting interest. I can’t be rooting for the Lakers of soccer when I have the Clippers of soccer waiting to break my heart.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually knew that. I am vaguely aware that soccer teams sometime have no city name in them. I just wanted to mention scotch. I may have one later tonight.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

had one and a glass of wine

now in my hotel in NYC preparing a powerpoint for the morning

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool cool. I figured as such, but I never know when I’m being baited once the soccer talk starts : )

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m more likely to be baiting you with the MacDougal talk. I would be far out of my depth way to fast to try it with soccer.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I always fall for your “get Josie to talk about college stuff” traps : p

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the Lakers

Bynum had 11 boards and 3 blocks in the first quarter, but the Lakers are down 6.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I hadn't expected to actually use this feature on my Kindle

but being able to pick up my phone, auto sync to the last page read on my actual kindle, then come back home later and have my kindle be right where I left off on my phone is really cool.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Kemp to Left? Uh, no.
*A scout following the Dodgers says he does not like what he sees. A number of players are hurt, including third baseman Casey Blake and right-handers Jon Garland and Vicente Padilla. But the issues go beyond injuries.

The offense is the team’s biggest question, but the scout says the pitchers aren’t throwing enough strikes and the defense has been less than stellar. The spring stats bear out the scout’s observations: The Dodgers’ walk rate is the second-highest among NL clubs and only one NL team has made more errors.

With Jay Gibbons, one half of the left-field platoon, experiencing issues with his left eye, the Dodgers might be better off playing Tony Gwynn Jr. in center and Matt Kemp in left. Meanwhile, closer Jonathan Broxton is topping out at 91 mph and Hong-Chih Kuo is the only quality lefty in the bullpen.

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/notes_from_spring_training/4386561

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2011 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

missed it by that much

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

ITS SPRING TRAINING.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broxton hasnt k’d anyone this spring…I was wondering if his velocity is down.

If he’s throwing 91, given how horrible he was last year even when he was up in the upper 90s…ouch.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broxton has stated that he has taken it easy the past couple of springs.

If he throws 91 in Mid-April, then you can get concerned.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marcus Thames ain’t the greatest thing around, but I do imagine he is going to see significant time in LF for LA.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're really bad during spring training...you'll probably be bad during reg season

Panic Alert – ORANGE – ;)

Spring training (teams that played below .350) with their corresponding regular season record:

2010 –
Washington Nationals – (69-93)
Pittsburgh Pirates – (57-105)

2009
Arizona Diamondbacks – (70-92)

2008
SF Giants – (72-90)

2007
Chicago White Sox – (72-90)

2006
Boston Red Sox – (86-76)
Washington Nats – (71-91)

2005
No Teams Finished Spring <.350

2004
Philadelphia Phillies (86-76)

2003
San Diego -(63-98)
Milwaukee -(68-94)
Angels – (78-85)

2002
Cincinnati -(78-84)

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I will file this under things I won’t remember

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must have a really bad memory because this is really easy to remember.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I already forgot, what are we talking about?

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have a 90% chance of telling how the regular season will go based on what the Dodgers do over the next 2 weeks.

Free gambling advice.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

except I don’t. You can’t keep saying it, but you have no one on this board convinced that anything that happens in Spring Training has any correlation to what happens in the Regular Season

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t think Nate Silver will be calling you for statistical advice anytime soon.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d go back further to get a larger sample but I dont have accurate spring training records in front of me.

But if you play <.350 ball over spring training, strong indication that you’ll not be good during the regular season.

I’d tend to not care about spring training records in general…but when they get to an extreme negative level seems to be a strong correlation.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anybody on the 25 man roster gotten over 25 AB’s, or 12 innings?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean aside from the fact that 33% of our games we have purposely sent no more than two major league hitters? Or the fact that in the other 66% we’ve taken out our regulars halfway through the game?

Which has a correlation to major league success?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You maybe kinda sorta

could make an argument that bad teams give more innings to NRIs and minor leaguers in an attempt to figure out if they should be on the roster?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks – didn’t have the energy

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

All teams play their entire roster during spring training.
Thats not even a factor since it cancels out.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

so then how are you correlating games between their minor leaguers and our minor leaguers into big league, regular season winning percentages?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which means the amount of time actually logged by player who ever make the 25-man is even smaller. The sample size is far too small to matter.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

but Dave, I really ready to be down on the season. Can you help me with a better way to feel bad?

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

See David’s response below.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, we might just be one of those teams that are bad to start with.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to echo this sentiment, why, Joey, WHY are you so itching to shit on this season? we haven’t even played a meaningful game yet, they haven’t even put up the bunting at DS.

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Ronald Belisario decided to Charlie Sheen before he could do it himself?

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belisario may have tiger’s blood, but definitely not Adonis DNA.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to isolate factors in order to find correlation. Your analysis is simply too, well, simplistic. Some of the teams you listed were extremely like to suck no matter what they did in ST.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes – of course

bad teams that have bad springs will still be bad

I love where the day takes us sometimes and other times not so much

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fortunately, it will be scotch o’clock soon.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is what it is.

Very bad teams (only the worst of the worst) in spring training will tend to be bad during the regular season.

I wish I had spring training records further back, but I only pulled the stuff from ESPN and I purposedly only tried to analyze the very worst teams to see if something was there. Even the 2006 Red Sox had one of their worst regular seasons (of the 2000s) after a terrible spring training.

It makes sense that if you are really bad during spring, that you’ll be bad during regular season bc it points to weaknesses in depth (especially if the regulars arent playing the whole time during spring) at the very least that tend to present themselves over a 162 reg season.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope.jpg

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, the Yankees had Billy Crystal hit during spring training

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I refuse to believe that the playing time of the likes of Roman Colon and Jon Huber have anything to do with how a MLB team will perform in the upcoming season.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

its to the point that I am back where I started, this argument is without profit and so I will forget it starting now

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The phrase “at loggerheads” comes to mind.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come Thursday night

Hopefully we will be at lager heads.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thurs – Mon is when the hardened drinkings will be hitting Camelback and neighboring environs.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

aye, you crazy kids have fun. I’m gonna be watching Rainn Wilson and Ellen Page run around in Super Hero costumes Thursday night

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant “drinkers”, but “drinkings” as a contraction of sorts for “drink kings” works.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahem

SSS. I mean you need a minimum size of like 30. Even then…

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

96% of the teams that begin the MLS season will not win the World Series. Smart money is betting on not winning the World Series each year

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only 96%?

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

reread your comment

when you see it, you’ll something something

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I obviously can’t talk baseball right now, with soccer season kicking off tomorrow

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

so soon?

I think I"ll have to take my bro in law to a game or something.

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a long season, starts before and ends after baseball

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

At what rate does a team play a match, once a week? twice a week?

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

One MLS match a week, with US Open matches and CONCACAF Champions league matches thrown in for good measure on weekday nights. The Galaxy will play something like 60 games this year, is the number Bruce keeps throwing out

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is too ridiculously long to try and get casual fans to sustain an interest.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are really very good at this

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may have underestimated my baiting prowess.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s as long as the baseball season, give or take a few weeks on the end. 18 teams in a double round robin means 34 MLS games. The other games come in when you factor in the other competitions, but only the top clubs go to those.

The cheapest season ticket in town gets you 17 home matches, I think that’s a bargain

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interest in what?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forget, tartans?

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You say that with the NHL, NBA, and MLB in existence.

The casual fan’s interest will always wade in and out of a sport. What drives him or her to games is the social event, might as well try to have a party almost every week, eventually you’ll fit somebody schedule.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll never take basketball seriously

 as long as their playoffs last longer then the actual season

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don't last longer

yes its hyperbole but the playoffs go a little longer than 2 months which is less than half the regular season.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats still absurd to me

it would be one thing if they didn’t drag the finals over god knows how many days.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going back 40 some years

a seven game NBA Finals series takes about 2 weeks to play. Most are shorter since they don’t t go seven games.

Baseball is shorter since they do play on back to back days but that is the nature of the games.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s only been last year. Baseball was getting just as bad as the NBA on stalling series for a long while.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I don't get is

Josie’s continued defense of soccer to what I see is at least a fairly welcome group to it, I mean there are some here who still play, others who go to games and certainly watch both MLS and Premier League.

I agree, it’s probably a good value if one wants to to around 20 games of soccer in the next 4-5 months.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

But what about when I'm soon too old to play soccer?

I could become a softball-playing soccer-hatin Amerkan!

meh, probably not.

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And casual fans have little use for the regular season in those sports. They wake up for the last couple weeks as playoff berths are closed in upon, then the playoffs. Not even sure if MLS has a post-season, or how they crown a league champion, or if they even do that.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do!

they have that weird thing whree they play home and away and combinet eh score!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh right

Lacks the requisite do-or-die drama. Last two teams standing should play one match on a predetermined pitch, winner take all, a la the Super Bowl. That’s something you can sell to TV.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they do?

I think its only in the prelims that they do the 2 game thing? I don’t know, save me Josie?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just the first round, second round is a one off, Cup match is a neutral site match.

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neutral site the way the MLS all star game is neutral site, mostly used to show off new stadiums, even if they’re in Toronto in November

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

NFL does the same thing

Indy would be the site of the 2012 super bowl if it happens

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good show then.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLS has a playoff season, but MLS teams also play in international tournaments and the like.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay now you’re just serving up spaghetti and meatballs, telling me it’s not delicious!

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

100% of MLB teams won’t ever win the Champions league because UEFA is fucking racist against American teams.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

American is a race?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smart money is betting the under on the Dodgers 85 wins (over/under)…if they finish spring <.350

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smart money doesn’t talk on what they bet

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should call up your bookie and do it.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the line really is at 85, the smart money is taking the under because of the plethora of low OBPs the Dodgers will likely be carrying, not because of any ST W/L record.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

But this team will have Juan Uribe leading off some games!

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that is a terrifying thought.

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you get a lot done at work today?

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES! I was an animal right after when I drooled myself away somewhere over colorado

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good start to the week then, helping to make up for last week, eh?

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t make up, you just move ahead

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the 2010 Spring Training season
AL East Tampa Bay Rays……………20-8 (Grapefruit 1st)
AL Central Minnesota Twins……….16-14 (Grapefruit 6th)
AL West Texas Rangers…………….10-19 (Cactus 15th)
AL Wildcard New York Yankees….13-15 (Grapefruit 12th)

NL East Philadelphia Phillies………15-12 (Grapefruit 4rd)
NL Central Cincinnati Reds………….12-16 (Cactus 11th)
NL West San Francisco Giants…….23-12 (Cactus 3rd)
NL Wildcard Atlanta Braves………..17-12 (Grapefruit 3rd)

The Rangers had the 2nd worst win-loss record in the Cactus league. They went to the world series. Spring Training is important because its allows players to train.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Practice? You talkin’ bout practice?”

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 14, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

This seems like selective stats

I recall the Detroit Tigers a few years ago running away with the Grapefruit League and the losing more than 100 games (I know this because a coworker at the time is a Tigers fan and said something like “I still think they’re gonna suck”). Didn’t the Royals have a great ST record a year or 2 ago. It’s a total waste of time to be making this point imho.

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers could finish in last place in the West

Broxton could be awful and the Dodgers might have the worst offense in the last 20 years.

And more things could go wrong.

But I refuse to believe that a sub – whatever ST record set that course in motion.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Correlation doesnt = causation thats correct.

by Joey Joe on Mar 14, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the plan, at least.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a fan. If teams thought he could start, the White Sox would have done it years ago.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow thats surprising. I always thought he was relief material, maybe late innings potential? (at least from what was bandied about when we got him). EVERYONE is a starter until stated otherwise

by EephusBlue on Mar 14, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That shoulda said i guess EVERYONE is a starter until…..

by EephusBlue on Mar 14, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

...proven shitty?

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone with two half decent offspeed pitches or a fastball that won’t play in the bullpen is a starter until proven otherwise.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

BH is right, moving on (but still off topic)

The Hugh Laurie show is fantastic, but every moment he’s not on screen is boring. Except for Amber Tamblyn, but I only half pay attention to the team moment, waiting for her to do something interesting. That was a fantastic ending however, to tonight’s episode

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

He has his own show?

But not with Fry?

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I call House the Hugh Laurie show cause he’s the only thing that ever gets nominations. I didn’t mean to confuse

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

a likely story

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amber Tamblyn

was pretty cute in person when I saw her at the premiere of the first Traveling Pants (I chaperoned a buncha kids).

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by David Young on Mar 14, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

she’s pretty cute, and she’s got talent unlike the rest of House’s crew, who are about on a level with daytime television

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

but but that one chick from the OC was hot!

Doesn’t that count as talent?

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tamblyn is cute, but the show needs to stop dressing her up like she’s 8.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved Joan of Arcadia. It was possibly my favorite (although obviously not the best) drama ever.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are still tons of American viewers who have no idea that Hugh Laurie is British

which blows my mind, as a fan of Jeeves and Wooster, Blackadder, Fry and Laurie, et al.

Btw, watching and enjoying the Stephen Fry in America series, good thing to watch with the g/f’s visiting parents.

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh, finding out that not only was he British he was really famously British blew my mind. Most people probably don’t even know Christain bale is englishish

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was so convincing in Newsies!

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well Bale doesn't even know what he is anymore

his accent wavers even in interviews, depending on what role he’s doing or his mood or whatever.

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many people know Johnny Depp is American? :)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well he's a real chameleon.

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by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

he comes and goes

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen any numbers on this

but the Spurs and Heat had quite the home-and-home this year.

Spurs won at home by 30.
Heat won at home by 30, tonight.

I wonder how many times, if at all, that has happened in the same season.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

most of the teams, historically, which have lost by 30, have been really bad

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet they didn’t do so well in spring training either.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm mad.

The sub assignment I had tomorrow was canceled right now. That’s just a dick move. Argh.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I was supposed to go biking sunday

loaded my bike in my car and everything, started to drive away from my house 15 minutes before we were supposed to meet up, then got a text canceling. Lame.

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by nolander on Mar 14, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Week

Hopefully you can get something like a friend of mine used to get…he’d get a late call in the morning, and wouldn’t end up having to show up until like 10am (because of the late call) but he still got paid for a full day. There were more jobs then though.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also weak

My incorrect spelling of weak/week

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its Tuesday, there won’t be many calls in general on Tues., Wed., so I try to pre-schedule as much as I can on those days

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a good plan; sucks it didn’t work out. At least you can watch the Dodgers live! :)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where do you sub?

I could always potentially use someone competent. I’m at Uni High (LAUSD).

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Irvine Unified. If you can get on the LAUSD sub list…

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a University High in Irvine too. That’s kinda the same thing. But there won’t be any openings for subs in LA any time soon what with RIFs being thrown around like confetti. And on that note, I gotta crash early as I’m spearheading my school’s morning rally to protest the layoffs and whatever the hell else it is that we’re protesting. F The Man.

by Nolij on Mar 14, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha. Yeah. I figured. Thanks anyway.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My alma mater

back when we had an Indian as our mascot

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was and is still my high school mascot.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My school were the Saxons, but there was talk of replacing it because some people (read: The district) felt that it was too close of having an Indian group as the mascot. Never mind, nobody has referred themselves as a Saxon for about 12 centuries.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

and they lived in the Saxony part of AngleLand

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

In West Los Angeles?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 14, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, if you were talking to me, yes.

by Nolij on Mar 15, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The AFLAC duck

being fired made the evening news. It happens this fast now

by Josie Becker on Mar 14, 2011 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Props to the first newspaper that uses “Duck and Cover” as their headline tomorrow.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheesh!

I Z’d through that whole conversation above.

I thought I was the resident pessimist around here, but I got no game against Joey.

Oh, sure, I think the Dodgers will — well, I was gonna say stink, but they won’t stink. I think they’ll be mediocre. But even I can’t point to the last two weeks as evidence of that.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 14, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Was that what it was? I thought he was trolling the daylights out of people.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s like a jungle sometimes

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 14, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I wonder how I keep from going under.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take the over!

“Eric’s spring training stats usually don’t reflect how he’ll do when regular season blogging.”

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 14, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh Heh Heh, Heh, Heh Heh

If they move, Kill em

by mleadman on Mar 14, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the discussion above, I was going to make a Fanpost about the best and worst free agent contracts for hitters the Dodgers have given out, but the results were so boring that it wasn’t worth it. The only guys pre DePo even worth considering were Kirk Gibson and Brett Butler.

However, something did come of this: Casey Blake is arguably the greatest free agent signing in Dodger history. It’s a bad argument since even though Kirk Gibson disappeared in the last two years of his deal he basically single handedly won us the pennant. However, if Blake shows up at all this year he’s going to set the record for most WAR over one contract since he only trails Gibson by 1.7 coming into this year.

The right response to this could very well be “WAR is bullshit”, but for a signing that generously called inoffensive it’s at worst one of the top three deals the Dodgers have ever given out.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 15, 2011 6:04 AM PDT reply actions  

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C 17 Ellis $490,000
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C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
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SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
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RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
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LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
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DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



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Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

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