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2011 Dodgers Player Profile: Jay Gibbons, Seeing Is Believing

Jay Gibbons would like to open his eyes on the morning of March 31 and see himself on the Dodgers 25-man roster and he has endured a series of eye-related issues procedures in order to get there.

Drafted in 1998 in the 14th round by the Toronto Blue Jays, Gibbons reached the major leagues in 2001 after being acquired by the Baltimore Orioles in the Rule 5 draft. After struggling through the 2004 season, Gibbons found that his vision was in decline and he underwent LASIK surgery to correct it.  This appeared to help him to rebound in the 2005 season. Following his return to the major leagues with the Dodgers last season, Gibbons had photorefractive keratectomy (PRK) surgery to make further vision corrections by slightly reshaping his cornea.

But that wasn't the end of Gibbons' vision quest. He ended his Venezuelan winter ball stint early complaining of blurred vision, then had ongoing problems with contact lenses this spring. Finally he returned to Camelback Ranch today with a new contact lens prescription, which changed the lens magnification and flattened the curvature of the lens to better fit the changed shape of his eye.

The early results were highly favorable today. As TBLA reported yesterday:

Jay Gibbons, on his improved vision, thanks to new contacts: "When I first felt it was playing catch in the morning. It was almost a sigh of relief."

The empirical evidence seemed to agree, with Gibbons making hard contact several times in the exhibition game yesterday.

Eye problems were not the only thing that Gibbons had to overcome to return to the big leagues. His career seemed to be set back with his name appearing in the Mitchell Report:

On December 6, 2007, the Commissioner's Office announced a 15-day suspension of Gibbons for violation of the joint drug program, to take effect at the start of the 2008 season. After the suspension was announced, Gibbons said: "I am deeply sorry for the mistakes that I have made. I have no excuses and bear sole responsibility for my decisions. Years ago, I relied on the advice of a doctor, filled a prescription, charged the HGH, which is a medication, to my credit card and had only intended to help speed my recovery from my injuries and surgeries.

Following his release from the Baltimore Orioles the following spring, Gibbons experienced an odyssey of minor league contracts and independent league stints, finally ending up in the Dodgers system last season on a minor league contract. After lighting up PCL pitching in Albuquerque, Gibbons returned to the majors when the Dodgers purchased his contract last summer.

Trivia

Gibbons is another local boy made good. He attended Cal State University at Los Angeles and was the only major leaguer to hail from Mayfair High School in Lakewood until Justin Turner got cup of coffee with Baltimore in 2009,

Contract Status

From Eric's contract information:

On November 4, 2010, Gibbons signed a one-year deal for $650,000 plus $150,000 in incentives. The contract is guaranteed for only the MLB minimum (which is now $414,500), per Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times, meaning the remainder of $235,500 would likely become guaranteed once Gibbons makes the team out of spring training.

Gibbons has $150,000 in performance bonuses as well (per Dylan Hernandez):  $50,000 for 300 PA,  $50,000 for 400 PA,  $50,000 for 500 PA.

Stats

Year Age PA BB% Runs RBI BA OBP SLG wOBA wRC+
2001-2007 24-30 3035 7.1% 348 405 .260 .314 .453 .328 100
2010 33 80 5.0% 11 17 .280 .313 .507 .346 115
2011 Projections - Age 34 Season
Bill James
300 5.3% 32 42 .268 .309 .444 .328 105
Marcel
240 7.5% 29 32 .263 .322 .429 .327 104
Baseball HQ
238
2.5% 21
29
.233 .252 .375

ZiPS
302 4.3% 33 41 .263 .292 .412

(Photo by Danny Moloshok - AP)

2011 Outlook

Gibbons' career indicates that he will provide a low-ish OBP but with some power. That could be ideal for a bench bat, but may be trying for fans and management as the left-handed half of a platoon. Additionally, making a return to the major leagues at age 33 after an extended absence without a loss of performance is a rare occurrence. It is quite plausible that Gibbons provides anywhere from slightly above career-level performance to a precipitous drop that would make Acapulco cliff divers envious. I will guess that Gibbons racks up 253 PA and hits a Juan Uribe-like .258/.313/.413.

What are the TBLA community projections for Jay Gibbons in 2011?  Give us your prediction for PA, BA, OBP, and SLG in the comments, and feel free to add any other predictions you have as well.

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But that wasn’t the end of Gibbons’ vision quest.

Outstanding.

Who's Dioner Navarro?

by Maddz on Mar 18, 2011 7:18 AM PDT reply actions  

i've only ever seen the very end of that movie

when he has the wrestling match. For some reason my history teacher(who was also the football coach) wanted to show it to us.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is just such a great picture

.235 / .285 / .380

201 PA. DFA’d in early July

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Abre Los Ojos

Gibbons will begin the year strong, putting up surprising [Aubrey Huffish?] numbers in April and May, before hurting his shoulder crashing into an outfield wall. He is a major part of our 36-21 start.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

You guys are looking at Gibbons' numbers the wrong way

His career OBP of .314 is actually very good, as compared to those of Juan Uribe (.300) and Rod Barajas (.284). If Juan Castro (.268) makes the team, Gibbons will instantly become that much better.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 7:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Why I'm rooting for Gibbons

1. He’s a Dodger.
2. When the Mitchell Report came out, he apologized unequivocally and immediately.
3. When he was, for whatever reason, blackballed for being on the report, he swallowed his pride and wrote letters to every team apologizing and asking for another chance in pro ball, whatever it took.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah

i’m on that train too.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing the sub .300 wOBA after presumably getting off the juice might have had something to do with the fact that teams didn’t want to pay him money to suck.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sucking massive donkey balls didn’t stop the Dodgers from signing Gary Bennett who was never any good at any point at any level at any aspect of baseball in his professional career.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Career OBP of .302; known more for his defense ;)

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Career CS% of 22%. OPS+ of 64. Never had an OPS+ higher than 66 in any season with over 90 PA. It is pretty much a slam dunk that he sucked massive amounts of rocks. The fact that he could get a job after being named meant that teams really didn’t care about the juicing. Certainly, Gibbons was not as likely to produce as Miguel Tejada or Rafael Palmeiro but that he couldn’t even get a minor league deal or NRI at 30 was odd. But like I said, I like that he accepted responsibility for his poor choices.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

300 PAs
.250/.318/.455
18 HRs

/vomits random numbers

Who's Dioner Navarro?

by Maddz on Mar 18, 2011 8:08 AM PDT reply actions  

random numbers?

how much DID you drink last night Maddz?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

nothing

I don’t need a day to remind me that alcoholism runs in my family!

Awww. :(

Who's Dioner Navarro?

by Maddz on Mar 18, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

mine too

not irish though. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Being nice runs in my family, I’m trying to break that circle of happiness

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fight the power, Phil. :-)

"Flame yo, hot man!"
"...Flame...yo?"
"[shrugs]"

by TomasC on Mar 18, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

the trick is

learning to fuel yourself on tears and the sweet taste of sorrow.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Breakfast of Champions

by EephusBlue on Mar 18, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers lineup

Furcal SS
DeJesus 2B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Uribe 3B
Thames LF
Navarro C
De La Rosa P

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 8:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

He’s got Miles to go to make the roster

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about them Zags last night?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, how bout them.

That’s part of what I hate about college sports. I fundamentally hate Gonzaga, but Gonzaga winning last night helps the conference, which in turn helps Portland. Rooting for rivals is painful and apparently necessary in college sports, especially in mid-majors where you don’t really control your own destiny (even if you technically do.)

St. Johns went 0-2 against the WCC having lost to St. Mary’s early in the season.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Many things make me feel old, but when Vern said that Gonzaga has now been to the tournament 13 years in a row I was like WTF, just seems like yesterday they made that first crazy run.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately UCSB was down 40 5 minutes in, and I did not have to fake-root for them.

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was real-rooting for them

and it was even more painful. Ugh. I root for whichever Big West teams are in the tourney because there’s no team I dislike and it helps the conference.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone talks about what a “Good Kid” Orlando Johnson is, but he looks so cocky, and like a real good shit talker. I want to choke him every time he hits a 3.

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

First name the name of a city

Can’t trust him.

Name of a country though? That’s OK. See Chad Billingsley, Nyjer Morgan, etc

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 9:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

so I should never trust a girl named Dallas?

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

you should trust her

to give you one hell of a lapdance, but step out of the champagne room with her and you better keep a good hold on your wallet and your perspective

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 18, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you answered your own question.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 9:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This story will make you feel less like that

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20110316/COLUMNISTS/110319502/1044?p=3&tc=pg

I’ve met him once, he is a good kid. Basically, that’s all in your head.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry start here

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20110316/COLUMNISTS/110319502/1044?p=1&tc=pg

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate reading these stories. But i read it just to make you happy.

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh. human interest stories.. feh! ;)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

OJ – Kent’s People

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Miles is looking semi-lockish.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s an injury waiting to happen. Being plucky at his age means lots of time mending.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He looks fat on TV to me.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw him in the clubhouse yesterday while the game was still going (late). I think he’s listed at 5’9" and that is about right. He is not fat, but he is proportionally wide compared to his height.

Velez was hitting and I made some comment like, “I thought the camera is supposed to add weight,” and Miles said something like, “It sure isn’t adding anything for Velez and Dee Gordon.”

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 18, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think Giggles get sent to minor league camp after the game?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the middle of the game. Donny pulls him and instructs him to report to the minor league workout immediately.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

… after visiting him on the mound, stepping onto the grass, then back onto the dirt.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 18, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

May have just been a preseason game yesterday but it still had to be exciting to watch them hit those dingers to win the game in the 9th.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Castillo
mlbtraderumors:
Mets officially announce that they have released Luis Castillo.

I know, Yawn, right? But the Mets are still a mess and it’s fun.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

He had a shitty run.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think the phillies might pick him up

because of Utley’s knee problems.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not this time

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt it

they’d rather have the mediocre but cheap Miles who has already been in camp than pick up Castillo at this point…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants lineup

Fontenot 2b
Tejada ss
Huff 1b
Sandoval 3b
Schierholtz rf
Rowand CF
Ishikawa lf
Stewart c
Suppan P

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 9:04 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Carla Gugino

The Linda Fiorentina reference took me there

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 18, 2011 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

The Nuart has her in some movie playing a porn star. I think I need to go see it.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or rewatch SinCity a few times

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t tell you how many movies I’ve seen that feature a movie theater scene filmed at the Aero. That was my favorite theater growing up. Their double features ruled.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

enjoyed this

not as much as thinking about Carla Gugino, but enjoyed this

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 18, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

i give rec

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have what she's havinv.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

+g -v

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

We expect you to do that with every lineup for the rest of the year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

You started it, now you’re just going to have to finish it.

by Julio Nievas on Mar 18, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

To file under things I never saw coming

Was putzing around on the ELO rater and Bob Brenly vs. old “friend” Jeffrey Leonard came up. I was blown away that Brenly had the higher caeer OPS.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

How do Jeff Lynne and Bev Bevan rate on that scale?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Possibility that Blake could start season on DL. We missed the first part of Mattingly this morning.

Also Padilla might throw off a mound today.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 9:46 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Interesting. I wonder if that’s [partly] why we’re seing IDJ starting at 2b today.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

IDJ – 3 for 3 on opening day. 0 for his next 24.

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or is that a crazy fast recovery from surgery?

And emphasis on crazy.

On the other hand, maybe Padilla really is all man. He is a dude what shot himself in the leg, after all. Maybe he’s just that tough.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cast him as Anton Sigur in the remake. Or maybe just call him El Machete.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or, since he obviously heals so quickly, Wolverine.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the opposing manager would ask to see the claws.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if an adamantium skeleton would be classified as a performance enhancing device.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tom Dempsey says no.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He recovered quickly last year as well.

I’ve been thinking about this. If the logic of having Garland in the rotation over Padilla was Garland’s ability to pitch every 5th day and give you 6 innings, at what point do we challenge that model. Garland may be shittier in the bullpen than Padilla would be, but I’d say that Padilla would be better in the rotation than Garland would be as well. Basically, Padilla > Garland. Starting rotation is more valuable than bullpen.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially if the 6/7/8 starters are Ely/Redding/Monk.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but i like that 97MPH heat as the closer. Since it looks padilla will be in that role sooner than later.

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

?

This is a strange place.

There will be 300 posts below this write up on Gibbons and maybe 10% will have anything to do with anything germane to the authors point. The conversations can get entertaining, but they might as well be about alien visitations cuz they don’t relate much to baseball or the Dodgers.

About Gibbons, you have to go back too far to have any relevant info on how he does against RH pitching. He did fine several years ago when he was using PED’s. The sample last year was too small. Frankly, I think he will be a waste of roster space.

by Badger I on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

You may have answered your own question about why there will be so few comments about Gibbons: there’s not much to say. I’m feeling generous this morning so I’ll give him a 50-50 shot at staying on the roster all season.

So here are our choices:

1. We can spend the rest of the day parsing whether I have been too generous or not generous enough;
2. We can let the thread die and go off to other corners of the internet;
3. We can all be friends and do what friends do and talk about the myriad things that interest us.

What do you say?

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or we can talk about the other kind of Gibbons. There is probably more to say.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s purely a voluntary site. You are not compelled to stay. If your browser is directing you here without your consent, contact a priest or a rabbi.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

No need to be snide. He asked a very valid question for someone who has come to a Dodger blog expecting to only read about the Dodgers. Treat the newbies well, he asked in a very polite way a question that is probably on the mind of many of who visit here for the first time expecting a 100% Dodger blog.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now that was funny.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would have been even funnier if it had come from the Meercat.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well now I’m stumped. I’ll GFM.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just wait till the regular season begins. Boards will be loaded with baseball talk.

by Julio Nievas on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Badger I:

If you were to collect the total tonnage of posts and comments regarding Jay Gibbons on this site, it would tower over most small skyscrapers. With the regular season fast approaching, most of the commenters have run out of witty sayings, snark and drivvel regarding Gibbons, so it may appear that we don’t care. We really do, but to we have strange ways of showing it.
But, if you need a recipe or directions to a place to eat, or a movie review or some poetry, you’re in the right place!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 18, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric, David,

Do I have the secret code to gain entry to the press box correct? Two knocks, one knock, two knocks, followed by `Hey, let me the hell in! I have blintzes!’.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

The password is "swordfish"

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that the movie where Halle Berry showed off, er, Halle’s berries?

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

a yup

i worked at a theater when they were showing that movie. My co-workers had the timing down exactly of when to “inspect” the theater during showtime.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it is

But I was referencing the Marx Brothers movie with that line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrCgCKrv8U

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

looka here

i no cana leta you in until you saya swordfish….

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got a haddock!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 18, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

one of my favorite Groucho/Chico exchanges

Groucho: 1492, that’s when Columbus sailed on his vessel, you know what a vessel is?
Chico: Sure, I can vessel. (starts whistling)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to piss of Badger by talking about boobies.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why that comment?

You are guys are being kind of elitest/dickish this morning. Don’t make me bring out the Meercat.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I, for one, am elitist/dickish every day.

Plus, like all of my comments, it is not meant to be taken seriously, or, for that matter, taken at all.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but you know Badger is new based on his comment, so how would he know not to take you seriously?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I took a gamble that it would be obvious.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen Badger post a few times over the last week or two. Also, snark is snark. No reason to be all warm and fuzzy to the newbs and then treat the vets like carrion. I certainly wasn’t given a shinejob when I started posting. Mostly, though, I’m confused as to why you called Humma/kinbote/“Us” out.

by Nolij on Mar 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

It can be damn scary posting in the comments section

of a blog with a strongly established community, thats why.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Marty

Afghanistan Banana Stand

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I did save your seat location for Monday. I’ll make sure to swing by.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 18, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe. My wife moved in with that Navarro guy, I was like, who the hell is that?

pure win Josie, pure win

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike -

did Portland vote yes when they voted on letting in BYU?

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know. I assume yes. I don’t think that stuff is public and I’m not sure how many teams need to sign off when voting in a new member. It might be unanimous. The only school I heard that voted against Seattle joining was Gonzaga, and Seattle didn’t join. Gonzaga seems to be the school that is driving these expansion talks since they don’t want to admit any basketball teams that will screw up the conference RPI, like they argued Seattle would. I also heard that the non- bay area schools were not too hip to adding a 4th team from the Bay Area (like Pacific.)

I don’t think any of this stuff is confirmable though.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

i thought big money boosters like you had the info

I was sitting with LB boosters at BW tourney, and guy was telling me that they had matt doherty all signed up in 99 but he did the “i dont know the west coast” bailout at the last minute. interesting to see how many fortunes would have been changed nationwide with that.

by delias man on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot BYU was joining, what year is that supposed to happen?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Padilla threw about 30 pitches. Five topped 80 mph. Appeared to be in no pain.

Watching Kershaw throw a bullpen now, to Ellis. Kershaw’s fastball makes a noise.

Guerrier was working on his curve. Real sharp break to it. Barajas was pleased.

In PFPs, Gimenez is working out at 1B

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 10:06 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

When Gimenez makes the roster we will all owe Phil a beer.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

Padilla has mucho millions in incentives. There’s a reason why he’s ramping it up so quickly.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

However, if Padilla pitches ineffectively, that will affect his playing time.

On the other hand, with Broxton not doing much to inspire confidence (though I guess he got out of it OK yesterday), maybe Padilla figures that “Game Finished” incentive is his for the taking if he can answer the bell.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Padilla closing at some point this year looks like a decent bet. If we’re out of it, Broxton go bye-bye at the break.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the scenario that we are in it, Padilla/Broxton/Kuo have all been lights out and Ned has the luxury of moving either Broxton or Padilla for a hitter, because at some point for this team to legitimately compete they will need to add a hitter.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a shot from my phone

Dave took better pictures; will be uploaded later.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 18, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prediction

Gibbons has a terrible April — .200/.210/.200 — and the catcalls for his release start to rise. Then, at the end of the month, he missed fielding a routine fly ball and takes it square in the left eye. It is an event that is simultaneously scary and infuriating. With blood seemingly gushing out of his face, Gibbons is taken to the hospital.

He’s fine, though — in fact, better than fine. “i lost it in my contacts,” he jokes from his hospital bed. Even better, he now has 20/8 vision in that eye and goes Hank Aaron on the league, batting .357/.492/.663 over the next four months.

Just as the rosters expand, Gibbons sleeps on his eye wrong and loses his magical vision powers, bats .200/.210/.200 again.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

what would that give him

as a final stat line?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he’d be a part-time player for those April numbers. Wanna call it 75 PA?

Then he’d almost certainly be put on the DL for two weeks. When he came back he’d still be a part-time player until his new eye increased his playing time. Wanna call it 350 PA?

Then he’d be pretty much a full time player as he sucks in September. He’d lose a little time at the end, I’m sure. 100 PA.

These numbers are convenient because it means that he’d have exactly twice as many PA as Super Gibbons as Sucky Gibbons.

I believe this gives him a final line of .305/.398/.509, but I could be very wrong.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

would that be

his career year?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

silly question

just looked it up, far and away :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did out-slug that back in 2005. But when Gibbons gets his super-eye he gets the power to walk, which he has never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever done.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

by Humma Kavula on Mar 18, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was laughing throughout this.

by kinbote on Mar 18, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

sounds kind of like the plot

to Rookie of the Year.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. I noticed that too.

by Michael White on Mar 18, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel sorry for Dave today…E’s gonna be rubbing one out in the press box when he sees that.

by KellyStephen on Mar 18, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why I sit to his side, not in front of him.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 18, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Josie would now have 13,500 to buy her car, that is a 160% return in six months. Think of Capstone as Hector Gimenez, a one time high flyer who took longer to percolate then anyone expected, given up on, started to show signs of life in 2010, and is geared for a breakout in 2011:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 18, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I love stories like this.

It is one of my favorite parts of baseball.

i am not an obnoxious asshole in person. i think.

by Ian Capilouto on Mar 18, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

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