Where Do The Dodgers Rank?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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PrintToday is rankings day, apparently. The Dodgers rank...
- 11th in Baseball America's organizational talent rankings, which is based on all prospect-eligible players heading into 2011
- 23rd in FanGraphs' organizational rankings, which combine present talent, future talent, financial resources, and baseball operations.
- 3rd in 2010 sales of all licensed MLB products, behind the Yankees and Red Sox. The Dodgers have nobody in the top 20 jersey sales of 2010, however.
- 3rd in MLB franchise value, at $800 million, per Forbes. Maury Brown has all the details at Biz of Baseball.
Today's Game
The Dodgers and White Sox play today for the fourth and final time at Camelback Ranch this spring. Ted Lilly sees his first Cactus League action since March 12, making his third "A" game start of the spring. Lilly also threw 72 pitches in a minor league game on Friday at Camelback Ranch.
Following Lilly on the mound for the Dodgers will be Ramon Troncoso, Scott Elbert, Lance Cormier, Travis Schlichting, and Ron Mahay. All but Mahay will be working the second day of back-to-back outings.
John Danks starts for Chicago, and is scheduled to be followed by Matt Thornton, Will Ohman, and Sergio Santos.
Lineups
| Dodgers | White Sox | |||
| SS |
Furcal |
LF |
Pierre |
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| RF |
Gwynn |
2B |
Beckham |
|
| 3B |
Uribe |
CF |
Rios |
|
| CF |
Kemp |
DH |
Konerko |
|
| 1B |
Loney |
RF |
Quentin |
|
| LF |
Thames |
C |
Pierzynski |
|
| C |
Barajas |
SS |
Ramirez |
|
| 2B |
DeJesus |
1B |
Teahen |
|
| P |
Lilly |
3B |
Morel |
|
Notes
- The Dodgers have nine players from minor league camp in uniform for today's game: OF Joc Pederson (wearing number 89), OF Noel Cuevas (90), P Steven Ames (93), P Cole St. Clair (96), P Merkin Valdez (97), C J.T. Wise (94), IF Charlie Mirabal (87), IF Elian Herrera (91), and IF Travis Denker (95)
- For the game in Tucson on Friday against the Diamondbacks, Andre Ethier, James Loney, Tony Gwynn, Jr., and Jamey Carroll are expected to start. Carroll hasn't played in a Cactus League game since March 14, but he has played in several minor league contests in the interim
- Friday will feature a fifth starter battle, as Tim Redding starts the day game in Tucson and John Ely starts the night game in Peoria against Seattle
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Game Time: 1:05 p.m.
TV: No local TV or radio, but the White Sox claim there will be a free webcast of today's game.
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BA
I somehow missed the #11 ranking by BA. That’s great news to me. Broxton might net us some more picks after this season. Onward and upward!
What were we ranked last year?
Wasn’t it towards the bottom? Did this years draft put us up this high, or is it the progression of talent. With alot of our top prospects (going into the season, especially pitchers) having bad years last year, I thought this would go down..
Withrow, Miller, and Martin struggled.
But Rubby, Trayvon, Sands, and Webster all improved.
That + the excellent draft = #11.
by Taylor Maricle on Mar 23, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Can indulgences for SB Nation be sold?
I had to change my login, so I had to wait 24 hours to comment. I did not realize that this site had adopted the concept of Purgatory.
I imagine that one of the mods would have been willing to wave purgatory for you
for the right price…
These hands will always be rough
On the contrary, Bob should have had to wait 48 hours, he has plenty of sin to atone for.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I believe this blog changed that immediately following the 2009 NLCS when Phillies fans were unsufferable with their trolling.
SBNation overall I think did it more recently,as there was a problem with spamming ads for shoes and garments showing up in the comments.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You should have emailed me. The waiting period can be waived.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Even for a Bruin?
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I expect no special treatment. Even though I drive a Prius with those special yellow stickers on it.
That won’t be good after July.
Maybe if you start The Griddle again, you can get the red carpet treatment you deserve?
I really, really miss The Griddle.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you bet.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He occasionally publishes thoughts
on LA Observed
by bhsportsguy on Mar 23, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Just read the NCAA column. It was good.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
With Twitter
you can get instant CI reports
by bhsportsguy on Mar 23, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Bob! Nice to see you around.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Mar 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You're the stranger around here, sir! ;-)
you gonna grace here and DT with your presence when the season rolls?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yeah, I’ll probably spend some more time here now that the season’s getting underway. I don’t have particularly high hopes or anything, but I’m hoping for at least a better year than last year. I’m curious, what do people think the Dodgers’ record is gonna look like this year? Do we win 85 games, do we finish under .500, what?
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Mar 23, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll have a season prediction thread pretty soon, but I was forced to wager and if the over/under line was 85, I’d probably bet under. I can see the pitching keeping the team afloat, but 90 wins seems like a reach.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Oh, I’d bet the under as well. I just don’t know what a realistic projection would be though. Last year felt pretty miserable, but maybe we are truly a .500ish team?
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Mar 23, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You can say that again
I think predictions for LA are a bit all over the map but my own is basically: playoff contender good enough to stick with the other 2 main contenders in NL West, and win total 85-89ish.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
VISHAL
thought you gave up the blogging world for a different appetite.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Hey man! No, I just spend the bulk of my time on the Cal blog these days. There’s only so much time to waste in a day, y’know! :)
But, college basketball is winding down, and football doesn’t really start till August, so I’m excited for baseball season :)
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Mar 23, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
From end of previous thread...
Or, alternatively, [Baez is] my pick to be the next Kenley Jansen conversion project :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Eric speculated some cuts may be forthcoming. Might we see Kapler cut, so he can try to latch on somewhere else? I always like these sort of gentlemen’s agreements between players and teams. We’ll give you a shot; if not, we wish you the best elsewhere. Or will he haunt AAA?
I’m sure the Dodgers would find a plash to stash him in the minors, but that’ll be his call to accept it.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If he does not make the 25 man roster and they offer him a spot in AAA, he should take it, he will have no better opportunity to make it back quickly given the flotsam a head of him.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 23, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. If he turns that down I assume he would do so with the plan to retire altogether and not because there is a better option out there.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Kapler has said it’s Dodgers or retire, because he wants to be closer to his kids and home. He’s more likely to become a special assistant to Ned than an Isotope.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
As an ode to Eric, if he does retire
he ought to lead the last playing of Don’t Stop Believing at Dodger Stadium.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 23, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Too late
I think (hope) that already happened.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
*Lee played for the Seattle Mariners and Texas Rangers in 2010, before signing with Philadelphia in November. His ranking reflects sales of jerseys for all three teams.
I wonder what happened to all of those Seattle/Lee jerseys.
On the other hand… did they ever make a Florida/Piazza jersey? I bet some hipster would love to have that now.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
They recently auctioned a game used one off and it went for $425.
I would have been in on that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking back at BA's rankings
2001 – 28th
2002 – 25th
2003 – 14th
2004 – 2nd
2005 – 2nd
2006 – 2nd
2007 – 6th
2008 – 6th
2009 – 23rd
2010 – 21st
2011 – 11th
Big jump from 21st to 11th, partially because we did not lose any top end talent to the big club.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 23, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
how come it looks so cyclical? Oh, right.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
by G.Scott on Mar 23, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unless you are consistently
drafting up high (and even that is no guarantee), you are going to be cyclical.
I’m sure if you went back another five years there’d be a lot more 28ths.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite, in fact none
1999 – 24th
1998 – 4th
1997 – 2nd
1996 – 1st
1995 – 4th
1994 – 10th
1993 – 21st
1992 – 14th
1991 – Grade A (with Expos and Yankees)
1990 – 3rd
1989 – 6th
1988 – 16th
1987 – 7th
1986 – 6th
1985 – 6th
1984 – 5th
Interesting.
I know 98 is when they had Konerko and Beltre and 2 and 3 but what was keeping the farm propped up in 1996?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But they had graduated by then.
1996 was because we had Karim Garcia, Chan Ho, Konerko, Hollandsworth, Roger Cedeno, and Wilton Guerrero all in the top 61.
This is why I have no faith in the Royals.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not the Royals’ fault that the Dodgers traded the best of those guys for two months of Jeff Shaw.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Even then, the Dodgers got two legitimately good players, two serviceable guys and two nothings and no playoff appearances from that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
based on all prospect-eligible players heading into…
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine Dreifort still had prospect status, did he?
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope. He topped out as BAs #11 prospect in baseball in 94.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
y2k strikes at last!
These hands will always be rough
by nolander on Mar 23, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
For all the talk of ranking prospects being a crapshoot, the periods where the Dodgers ranked in the top 6 for a few years in a row yielded a bunch of legit big leaguers.
84-86 — Somewhat weak, but includes Ramon Martinez and Orel Hershiser among others. Greg Brock was a major fizzle.
89-91 — Eric Karros, Mike Piazza, Raul Mondesi, Pedro Martinez. Hell, even John Wetteland and Henry Rodriguez. Yeah, they worked out okay.
95-98 — Paul Konerko, Eric Gagne, Ted Lilly, not sure if Chan Ho counted for 95 or 96. Karim Garcia and Billy Ashley… oops.
04-08 — Our core so far looks pretty good. We can expect at least a few of Kemp, Kershaw, Billz, Ethier and ahem Santana to go on to HoF ballot careers at least, if not HoF careers.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Greg Brock was a major fizzle.
A career 105 OPS+ 1B just doesn’t quite cut it. ARE YOU LISTENING JAMES LONEY AND YOUR 108 OPS+?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
“You bet your ass it doesn’t” – Hee Seop Choi.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which, we gave Brock four full time years to be what we wanted before saying good bye.
Loney is on the exact same time table.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I expect Loney to have a wispy mustache in Milwaukee within the next few years.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be surprised if any of them have HOF type careers
mainly due to the fact that the Los Angeles Dodgers have only produced ONE HOF player on their own in their 50+ year existence.
Now that will probably go up by a couple with Pedro and Piazza but I don’t see anyone like that wit the possible exception of Kershaw who would really have to begin to dominate soon.
He said Hall of Fame ballot, which I took to mean will last a while then get on there in the Todd Zeile sense.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Hall of Famers on the whole are hard to come by, but I would be satisfied if Bills were to put together something like a Hershiser career or if Ethier was as effective as Konerko.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Just thinking
the Padres have had more homegrown HOF in Ozzie Smith, Dave Winfield, and Tony Gwynn, though Smith only played his 3+ years there, but much more then Pedro played as a Dodger.
The Giants have had zero.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Willie Mays and Willie McCovey don’t count?
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
McCovey and Cepeda were both signed in ’55 but neither played for the NY Giants, only the SF Giants.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
In that scenario we don’t get to count Koufax or Drysdale leaving us with?
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Don Sutton.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Depends on what you consider
Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal and Orlando Cepada were all originally signed by the NY Giants but debuted after the club moved to San Francisco.
Gaylord Perry was signed and debuted with San Francisco.
It was my fault. I meant to title my response to the Padres thing “Over that same period” and then comment “The Giants have had zero.” I failed, so then we had to rehash people on the Giants who didn’t suck. Let’s talk about Scott Garrelts instead.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Gaylord Perry waives a very wet hand at you.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If so from what time period, I’m confused at the parameters
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Stemmed from this from BH
the Los Angeles Dodgers have only produced ONE HOF player on their own in their 50+ year existence.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Which came from this comment from nolij
04-08 — Our core so far looks pretty good. We can expect at least a few of Kemp, Kershaw, Billz, Ethier and ahem Santana to go on to HoF ballot careers at least, if not HoF careers
Sad that 66% of the HOF will not go in as Dodgers
Chase Carey – your day willl come
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Stan Conte
Have been looking at the Bonds trial a bit and can’t help wondering if Stan Conte is testifying and what he actually knew or didn’t? He has always been seen as a great trainer and I know he is doing some serious stats work on injuries, but have always wondered about his knowledge of the case.
23Org
Really isn’t that unreasonable. It’s a little low sure, I can’t see how the Padres, Mets or Mariners are above us, but you could argue that the Royals are in a better place than us. It’s low, but it’s not a terrible mistake.
@andrewngrant
alright it is a nit pik but
how hard is it to check the open in another window box, saves having to go back then refresh losing your place in the discussion of some old actress that has died, or some such shit.
alternaticely maybe SBNation should have the box checked by default
/steps off soap box
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Mar 23, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s as difficult as either right-clicking the link and selecting “open in new tab” or pressing the wheel on your mouse.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
shit i been using a computer since puch cards
and had no idea about the wheel push.
I just need to retrain my brain.
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Mar 23, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe SBNation should have the box checked by default
THIS.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I am happy to check any box that needs checking.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I moved out of my place they day they put the sign up that said “Chipotle coming soon” across the street.
How do you go there twice a week and never try the carnitas I’ll never know.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe that Nate Appleman is working at Chipotle
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a pretty secure, good paying job. A lot securer than running your own place.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Still interesting move on both thier parts – company and Nate
I ate at A16 several times when he was there – it influenced the way I cook at home, which is about the best thing I can say about an restaurant
The cookbook is also fantastic – the secret to his chicken meatballs? PORK FAT. Mrs HJ was like you can’t call them chicken meat balls if they have a pound of fatback in them… Goodness
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
That last part
Does seem like a dirty trick.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I read the NY Times article about that.
I wonder if this quote from the head of Chipotle is just spin or if it really is the heart of the matter:
"Most people eat fast food in this country," said Steve Ells, the founder and chairman of Chipotle. "I’ve always argued that because food is served quickly and effectively doesn’t mean it can’t be good. We’re making sustainable food accessible, and a part of everyday eating."
Imagine: you get to influence 250 million meals, rather than making gourmet choices available to only a select few. You get to change fast food and maybe if you can do that you can change the world. Isn’t that worth a try?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Until all the stifling limitations get in your way?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely in believe-it-when-I-see-it mode here. But If I’m him, and Chipotle is saying, look, if you can figure this out, we’re behind you — why not give it a try?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I get it. I’m just sort of fast-forwarding.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This all makes me wonder — where are Chipotle’s test kitchens? New York, obviously. I found a link to another in Denver. I believe there’s a third; any idea where it is?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I am more than a little cynical, if you haven’t noticed
but I think that is really it in this case – and also volume sales make you richer than god, but you can do good and richer than god, or at least try
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t their food extremely, extremely bad for you? Laden with salt and calories?
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Mar 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as you get the bowl it’s not terrible for you at all.
The tortilla adds something like 350 calories and is what pushes it into the four digit range.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Man I was shocked at how bad the tortilla was
like crazy. Otherwise yeah, its not really that bad unless you are trying really hard to avoid butter, but you can always do it fajita style(peppers and onions).
These hands will always be rough
flour tortillas tend to be more caloric than corn, although that may be because corn tortillas are usually smaller.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
there was a time, before we all sat on our asses so much that they turned flat, that caloric density was a good thing
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Same way people who only ever order Pepperoni or cheese pizza I imagine
mmm carnitas
These hands will always be rough
His decision not to try carnitas is almost as controversial as Luke Scott’s Answer Man ramblings.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Mar 23, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chipotle blows
now that is really all
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
See, I am clearly less of an asshole than nolander. ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Marty, if you absolutely were forced to eat a meal
in a national, chain, fast-food restaurant, where would it be and what would it be?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
good question
I used to like Baja Fresh because of their salsas. Now they’ve upped the prices and cut back on the portions. Now I’d guess Fatburger. Or is that too small of a chain?
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
hah I just thought it was odd that he said he stopped going to baja partially because of their price
and then “pimped” fatburger.
These hands will always be rough
oh, and I'd get the burger with egg on top
That’s a pretty nice combo
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
I’ll put an fried egg on just about every sandwich other than tuna, and I like sliced hardboiled on the tuna
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
combination tuna and egg salad is pretty good
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
with mustard and pickles!
I also like tuna with mustard and pepperocini!
Marty we need to eat lunch together again!!!
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, my calendar is pretty open at the moment…
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
ok – hipster food next week! I am downtown next Wednesday for Jury Duty….
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
your'e the one who's not been to Langers?
That’s easy to do on jury duty lunch break
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Just what I was going to write, it was a glorious sandwich on a glorious day
Langers might be the call – I am open to exploring too
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, there’s a few spots downtown worth checking out. Nickel Diner, Blue Star, probably some new ones since I was last down there. We’ll figure something out
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
the sausage place, whatever it’s called.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I love the sausage and beer haven that I cannot spell
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That sounds like a brothel I will never attend.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Mar 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I just want to say that everybody has been stepping up their game lately. There have been some really, really funny comments.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Sheesh
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except for you, Meercat. Phil has been pretty funny but there’s got to be trouble at Meercat Manor or something because you’re the same sourpuss.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You are simply jealous of my rec’s. I have to use one liners you simply a limerick out of your ass and boom it goes green.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 23, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does one “attend” a brothel, or “frequent”?
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Mar 23, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
And two hard boiled eggs.
Honk!
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
And that’s what I had the last time I was in one.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Morgan Ensberg chimes in on TJ Simers
RT @MorganEnsberg I’m not ok w a story I read in LA Times about Marcus Thames. The line of questioning was cruel.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Headcase.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
@TommyLasorda I am unveiling Lasorda Wine tonight @grimaldispizza in Peoria AZ. Join me for greatItalian food and my signature Montepulciano D’Abruzzo!
Monday there were a few cases of Lasorda Wine just inside the shipping door of the Dodger office / clubhouse building.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
kemp wuz robbed
smoked that ball down the line.. nice play at 3B.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
I guess so
I had assumed Teahan was at 3rd, and I’m obviously wrong since he is at 1st
These hands will always be rough
Good play by loney, horrible throw to 2nd attempting to double up The Douche
These hands will always be rough
Speaking of lunch
Who’s up for South Bay/Westchester on Friday? I believe Truxton’s was discussed…
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
I could definitely do Friday, esp if we tweaked it to be a shade early, like meet at 11:30?
I wonder if Josie is at LMU on Fridays?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Not sure I can do it that early. I’d have to leave here at 11.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Earliest I can realistically leave the office is noon. That puts me at Truxton’s at 20 after or so. There’s also a Truxton’s Short Order at the Hughes Center which is a little closer to me and father from you.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
my staff meeting is scheduled to end at 1130 on Friday, so I probably have to back out of this one. They never stay in their assigned schedule slots.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Does postponing until Monday the 28th make more sense?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
i know for sure i’ll be free for lunch that day
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I can do Monday. The only risk is that people sometimes forget over the w/e that they have a Monday lunch date.
I wonder if Josie is at LMU on Mondays?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Don’t worry, we’ll all be here on Monday morning and we can remind each other.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I frequently brown-bag it, so when I forget, I end up with a brown-bag in the ’fridge and going out to lunch, and being annoyed that I wasted time packing the lunch (which is still usually good the next day.)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
see I'm the sort to forget to bring a lunch
so when I end up with extra food at the office, I am happy knowing that it will soon come in handy
These hands will always be rough
I could do Friday if we did 11am. I have a car and will be on campus, but have to be in Beverly Hills by noon.
by Josie Becker on Mar 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
which would take out Humma, and GScott, and the conversation has progressed, nevermind
by Josie Becker on Mar 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
what, is someone getting married, Oysters Rockafeller?
by Josie Becker on Mar 23, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If late lunches (after 1:00 or so) on the westside ever become up for consideration, I may venture out from under my bridge.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That is usually the time I go to lunch here in Culver.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The NorthWest SFV is way underrepresented. I’ve got one dude a block away but don’t know anyone else out this way on TBLA.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
maybe some day you all can come down to Irvine
we can hit up Chili’s!
These hands will always be rough
Not enough seating at flamebroiler though!
We could upgrade to Red Robins
These hands will always be rough
Hey I like souplantation! Some times, maybe once a year
If you are going to twist my arm we can hit up Olive Garden.
These hands will always be rough
I can do Olive Garden, though I prefer Red Lobster.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
What, you want us to go to north OC?
Do I look lower class to you? You know what, don’t answer that.
These hands will always be rough
If the answer is Applebee's
I don’t like the question.
Abort, abort lunch mission, abort.
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by underdog on Mar 23, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But how else will you eat good in the neighborhood?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Applebee's where they always ate in Dillon Texas (on Friday Night Lights)?
or was it just an Applebee’s clone type place?
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haha
man I would so intimidated trying to actually recommend a restaurant to the fine folks of TBLA.
These hands will always be rough
well i don't wanna be a food snob
I know people also are limited by whatever options their area allows. Of chains when those are the only options, I’ve been okay with Olive Garden, Chevy’s, I even enjoyed an Outback when visiting family in Florida. When you live in SF (or LA proper) you can get to be kinda spoiled and food snobby, I’ll admit.
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Timmermann and I both hail from Granada Hills – but no longer
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You know I live out that way, just don’t work there.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Right, this was meant for anyone who works out this way. Kind of surprised we don’t have anyone in the “business”.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Can’t type during the day. They’ve got their hands full.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I’d crack up if I saw a porn where the dude is absentmindedly banging away while scrolling through comments on his iPhone.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I had to look it up
Corollary to rule 34 is “Just because it exists doesn’t mean you can actually find it – and don’t try to at work.”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
icing on the cake of this webcast
is no Hawk Harrelson.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 1:39 PM PDT reply actions
and you can
put it on the boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooard
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
is our defense going to be ugly as hell once the regular season starts?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions
The infield actually has a chance of being pretty solid I think
the OF… ask Kemp.
These hands will always be rough
Nothing with Kemp and Ethier can be considered ugly.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We upgraded at 2nd, but everything else is the same so Yup
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
=(
having nightmarish flashbacks of the defensive bonertown that was the beginning of last season. brutal.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
dear broadcasting team
I have little to no interest about the color commentators cell phone plan
thanks
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
It terrifies me that I know exactly what you’re referring to. They went on about that for three days, didn’t they?
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Mar 23, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Associated Content is really pissing me off
I really want Yahoo! to take it out of their feeds. Some yahoo (pronounced YAY-hoo, of course) is extolling the virtues of Vector as if he’s the solution to all of our problems. Some other chucklehead is ranking ceremonial first pitches and a third dunderhead is breaking the story on how Furcal can’t get hurt. Can’t they just stick with their own hacks?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Easy solution
If it says “Yahoo Contributor Network,” don’t click the link.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
AC is ike the Bleacher Report of non-sports faux journalism
drives me batty too.
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simpatico
some things that are supposed to make stuff more efficient for you just end up wasting a bunch of fucking time, and they annoy you for the pleasure
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
bison blast for 3, please
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
where's David when you need him
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Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
nice swing
nice at bat
behind in the count and turned on the mistake
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
James needs seven to by pass Franklin Stubbs for 4th place among LA Dodger 1st baseman
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
He’s shocking 13 triples behind Wes Parker for 2nd place, but does stand all alone in 3rd for getting to 3rd.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Shockiest of all, if James Loney hits 17 home runs he will take over 3rd place for most home runs by a LA Dodger bypassing the aforementioned Greg Brock.
For all the talk of power with 1st baseman, not one LA Dodger 1st baseman who has hit at least 55 home runs in a Dodger uniform has an OPS over .800. Not one. Two came very very close but no cigar. One is a HOF. One was the batboy for Hall of Very Good.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
sad truth
We have had some good second basemen!
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
at the same time?
Maybe Garvey / Cey is it?
Karros / Wallach in 95 was okay but if they could have managed to combine 94/95 that would be a contender
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
If Garvey had been traded a year earlier, his OPS as a Dodger would have been 804.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
And to be fair, Garvey’s 122 OPS+ is far more acceptable than anything else we’ve had there.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
True, just a tad shocking the OPS is not over .800.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Yep, big part about playing in Dodger Stadium in the 70s and 80s. Hell, in 1976 an .813 OPS was a 133 OPS+.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what happens when one picks arbitrary big round numbers.
A few years ago on Sunday Night Baseball, the trivia question concerned great power-speed players. They were looking for… oh, I don’t remember… 300/300 club? I don’t remember the exact figures they wanted, except that if was for sure 300HR.
Anyway in the whole conversation as Miller and Morgan “tried to guess” and then revealed the answers, Rickey Henderson’s name never came up. The greatest power/speed player of all time (except maybe Bonds and he doesn’t count) and his name didn’t come up because he only hit 297 HR.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Willie Mays is simply not getting enough respect today:)
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
He lead the league in stolen bases four times, home runs four times.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Willie Mays was very, very good. He was better than any player the Dodgers have ever had. Is that sufficient?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Except Gimenez, though the Dodgers have Gimenez as much as the Atlanta Hawks had Julius Erving, at this point.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you referring to Garvey as HoFer? Because as I recall, both he and EK were in the .790 range.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And short of moving Ethier to first base, I don’t see how the Dodgers will acquire a first baseman who can put up an OPS of greater than .800 (in the near term.)
I guess the answer is that if you can’t buy a firstbaseman who can do that, and you can’t develop one, might as well let Sands do it for the major league minimum and use the Loney savings to upgrade elsewhere.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He means
Eddie Murray who hit more than 55 home runs as a Dodger but his Dodger OPS is .798.
Without looking the other one is Garvey.
Yes, didn’t expect this to be tough. Garvey ended at .796, Murry at .798
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Gotcha, you were only using his LA Dodger OPS, not counting the Brooklyn part.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Does it, that is amazing, he was consistent after he got the full time gig in 74. Maybe the best part of the Dodger infield, they did pretty much the same thing every year, none of this blowing cold and hot year to year BS.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Garvey is not as good as we once thought, but far better than he is regarded by most now
Only thing you can hit him for is that he didn’t walk – a fairly big thing, but still better than most people regard him now – which is like the 5th or 6th best hitter on those teams
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, he went from being over-rated to under-rated, he is exactly a Hall of the Very Good.
He did have the hottest streaks I’d ever seen by a Dodger, because he rarely walked he would go on tears of just ripping the snot out of the ball six or seven at bats in a row.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I have a soft spot for guys who didn’t walk (back then) and are now told that they weren’t as good as we thought them to be
I know why its true, still seems a little unfair, like we changed the rules on them somehow
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
like chestnuts
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 23, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I was gonna say: Ethier is Mr. Streaky but I think he’s got to be more likely than Kemp to put up a 900 OPS.
That’s the thing about Ethier. If he has a shitty season, he’ll have an 850 OPS. If he has a great season, he’ll have a 900 OPS. The window of what he might do is just so small.
Kemp… anything is possible. 900 OPS? Sure. Unlikely, but sure. 760 OPS, just like last year? Sure, again, unlikely, I think, but sure. Anything in between? Sure.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Kemp could put up a couple Beltre seasons. Will he? Doubt it. Could he? I don’t see why not.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Best LA Dodger with 900+ OPS seasons
Guerrero had 4 900+ OPS seasons in 6 years. (1982, 1983, 1985 and 1987)
Pedro was beastly and have to say I never thought he’d be beastly, just good. He was what Mike Marshall was not.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Mike Marshall's greatest failing
Respect for cold cuts.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Mar 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right. Even if Barry does show up, he’d probably only hit 25 or 30 home runs at this stage of his career.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Ha. Getting Barry and Canseco and platooning them at first base would make delias man happy.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice misplay by the ChiSox left fielder, whoever he is
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Ooh. I kind of like that idea. It would seem to be a way of weighting OBP a little bit more in the realm than OPS would. That seems on the surface to be a relatively simple metric that might be a better indicator of offensive production.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
would you
remove the decimal points, last time I checked multiplying numbers that begin with decimal points only give you smaller numbers.
But it loses the best part about OPS, which is it’s really easy to calculate in your head.
Once you get to OTS, you might as well just use wOBA or something.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ran some quick numbers.
From 2006-2010 OTS had a higher correlation to runs scored than OPS, but the difference is so slight (R-squared .909 versus .9048) that it’s not worth the extra brain power.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Some people can do three digit multiplication in their heads… And it is a simple computation with a calculator. But I completely agree that OPS is still more valuable as a quick reference than OTS.
And, bh, no, you wouldn’t, necessarily. If someone had a .400 OBP and a .500 SLUG, they would have a .4*.5 or .200 OTS. Yes, the numbers are smaller than either of the original numbers, but bigger than .350*.450=.1575, which is smaller. If you multiply two bigger numbers, you always get a bigger product. Where it becomes interesting is the ways when one is bigger and the other is smaller. So a .300/.500 would give you .150 and a .400/.400 would give .160. Both have an OPS of .800, but the .400/.400 line is more valuable.
*I think this assumes that the SLUG is higher, but there may be data that suggests that OBP without power sucks just as much as power without OBP.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Browe with “InPrivate” option on IE
Is for folks that want to check out porn on the home computer without their spouse knowing?
Yep
That is how we roll at Chez Kavula.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you know Bride’s techniques?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 23, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best possible answer.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Its for "gift shopping"
note: The gift doesn’t have to be for someone else
These hands will always be rough
Most tech guys call it “porn mode,” so, yeah.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Mar 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure
but it is much more popular there than in the high desert.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I had Peruvian food in Amsterdam. It was delicious.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
There used to be an El Pollo Inka near me. It was pretty good, but not spectacular. It’s gone now, but I think there are a few still around the city. I’m not sure there’s a big Peruvian fad or anything though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
In the last year or so like 6 have sprouted up where there where to my knowledge none
in south OC. Good stuff, but I wasn’t even aware of the concept of peruvian food until a year ago. I love how all of them have Inka in the name.
These hands will always be rough
I have noticed more Brazilian places in the last few years. I wonder if South American-styled places in the OC just call themselves Peruvian and by me they just call them Brazilian, or if there just happen to be more Peruvian expats in the OC.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I think it’s less big than it used to be. The gold standard for Peruvian chicken is still the chimney with spits at Western and 8th. Pollo alla Brasa, I believe it’s called. But it’s not a sit-down place, really, you’re gonna wanna take it home with you.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Mar 23, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In Chatsworth
There is a Peruvian/Chinese restaurant. Haven’t been there yet, but my daughter and her (ex-)BF liked it.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Right below us, been there a few times but not for a while. Did not remember it being notable.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Being above “doesn’t suck” makes the cut in Chatsworth. If I were you, I’d be in Les Sisters too much – except it can be hot in there in the summer.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
heard good things about that place
but the guy who told me about it also thinks Yang Chow is good Chinese food
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
A popular Chinese place in Chinatown that no Chinese eat at.
I realize I’m getting way to snobby
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
I would think that’s a reasonable criteria for quality…when I went to dim sum in Chinatown at NYC, we were the only people who spoke English. And it was awesome.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
You need to get to the dim sum places here
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
My friends and I used to frequent Empress Pavilion with some regularity when I was in high school. I’m sure there are some great places in the Antelope Valley.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
if by Antelope, you mean San Gabriel, there are. Elite in Monterey P:ark and Sea Harbour in Rosemead are my favorites
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
one of the best part about the collegiate life
nap time! I lamented the loss of naptime when I started to work full time.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
- is in right now for the White Sox, too.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Arrgh… that should say #57
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Boxscore says Lilly had a solid outing against the front line of the White Sox team. From some of these comments earlier I thought he was getting lit up.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
he got hit hard early on then settled down.. Kemp is having a great day as well..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
he was off in the first inning and then fine after that
people like to panic about the 1st innings of ST games though ;-)
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heh
he was just really having a hard time locating his pitches! I was overly harsh perhaps, but I was simply trying to speak truth.
These hands will always be rough
oh he definitely sucked in the first inning
i just call it a small sample size ;-)
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What happened to Elbert? Did he pitch?
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like the Sox announcers misidentified the LHP warming up
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet. I’m somewhat optimistic about him, the other guy LAD paid over slot to lure away from college in last draft.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
His name reminds me too much of Stu Pederson
Who reminds me of suck.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
But his name reminds me of Norm Peterson
which is all kinds of yes.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
the tyranny of their 3 letter names bugs me
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I was maybe being too subtle
Best Regards,
Joe
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'll be.
When Ed Amelung’s kid gets drafted, he will also remind me of suck.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Hector in at 1st base
Tons of moves:
Castro playing SS, Kaplar for Gwynn, Paul for Thames,
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Mahay screws up again
gets pulled for Lance “I couldn’t get out of the inning yesterday and you want me to get somone else out of a jam?” Cormier
These hands will always be rough
webcast color guy is high
saying you can count on Pierre for extra base hits
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
who is pinch running
looks like a teenager on the loose
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Mar 23, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
On base three times today, all three middle infielders Castro, Miles, DeJesus continue to swing hot bats this spring.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Unless Carroll can't go
and since he played today, I would think he will be there Opening Day, DeJesus will be going to ABQ but I think he has moved up into first to be called if a starter is needed for the middle infield.
“who I believe used to play for the Indians”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Bill Melton needs new notes
“A lifetime minor leaguer who got called up to the Indians a couple years ago”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Bill Melton – home run hitting 3rd baseman whose bad back side tracked a promising career is my memory.
BRef says he was done by the age of 29 but did lead the league in home runs (1971) with the grand total of 33. Did that two years in a row at the age of 24/25 then only hit 69 the rest of his career.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
What do you think Eric?
B Ref has a stat bolded if you lead the league in that category. Wouldn’t it be cool to have a link instead and that if you click on it, it displays the top ten players in that category for that season.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
That would be pretty sweet; a list when mousing over would be cool too, but that seems unwieldy.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it, but it’s not as intuitive as clicking on the MVP links, so I can see why you wouldn’t do it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically you either ugly up the page by adding underlined links everywhere, or you keep them bold which can end in someone accidentally clicking and ending up somewhere with out knowing why.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Castro getting in on the action
chopper between ss and 3b to bring in the run
These hands will always be rough
Okay if anyone is bored.
In 1971 the Dodgers had three players in the top 16 for MVP
Kind of easy for two of the three but was very surprised by the guy who came in 6th.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Ha, I would have totally thought Dick Allen was one of the easy ones, too. Not even a vote.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll go for the easy ones — Maury Wills and Willie Davis?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes, but I would have thought of them as hard, since neither had the year the other guy had, but he was a pitcher
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
They were two guys I know have 72 Topps cards of who were good. I forgot that was the year they had Dick Allen. I went and looked up Maury’s numbers and have no clue how anyone thought that was MVP-caliber, or even top-6 MVP-caliber. Wow.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I lived it and have no idea. 71 was a great year, we gave the Giants a real scare but fell one game short. Giants went 37-12 to start the season then hit a June swoon. I remember one game in June that the Dodgers were playing on TV and the Giants were struggling and Vinny chimed in that the world was coming to an end for the Giants because Willie Mays had just dropped a fly ball.
They played below .500 ball after June 1st but that huge lead was just good enough.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Nice pitch to get the second out
took something off and got the hitter out in front to pop up to second
He should be able to simply blow away the LH AJ
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
struck him out looking
pitch before aj couldn’t catch up to a fastball
These hands will always be rough
a member of the LA Dodgers 25 man roster.
Love how he has battled back after that terrible beginning.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
After 9 walks to the first 19 batters this spring
Elbert has no walks in his last 9 batters (one hit, 8 outs, 5 K)
Still doubt it, Elbert still has options, and, well, walking one out of every three batters is better than walking every other one, but still really bad.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s close to a lock IMO.
Mattingly loves him from the AFL and they can easily chalk up the early walks to “working on stuff” in the spring. Elbert has improved all spring and, even when he was walking people, his stuff was still filthy and nobody has really hit him.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that’s right, and what’s more, I think it was the plan all along. Mahay was brought in as insurance in case (a) Elbert shit the bed AND (b) they decided that they really did need another lefty besides Kuo. The fact that Elbert has righted the ship and Mahay has looked like he’s 40 years old means they get to go with Plan A.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
But if this was anyone but Elbert we’d be freaking out over Mattingly making a decision based on 9 batters faced while ignoring how bad Elbert has been for the past couple years.
Also I can’t think of the last time the Dodgers went with borderline guy with options over the veteran NRI.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not about these 9 batters faced though. Elbert has been throwing on the side, too, and has been heavily monitored. The stuff has been good, and Mattingly speaks of Elbert glowingly.
They don’t pick the veteran NRI with a terrible spring.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Adding on to Eric’s point — I think Mattingly wanted to give Elbert the job before ST started. In that sense, the job was his to lose. That said they knew that there was a chance that he would lose it, so they made a backup plan. When Elbert first did poorly, it looked like they might have to go with another plan, but he is righting the ship and showing he is worthy of their confidence. I do not think this is a case of taking ST stats and saying you got the job.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
All reasonable stuff. It’s just weird to think the team is behind Elbert when they’ve shown no signs of it in the past and the last we saw of him he abandoned the team.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
But that’s not the last Mattingly saw of him.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can totally see this, but my brain is just getting used to the idea of the Dodgers supporting Scott Elbert.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It is hard to believe
after they dumped McDonald last year the way the did.
These hands will always be rough
Much like Right Guard
Elbert never let ’em see ya cry.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Elbert was quite good in 2009, so it was only last year that he was particularly shitty.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
A mere month ago
we did the 25 man roster contest.
One week to go
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
heh, Dylan Hernandez
“This came back when he started to increase his velocity the other day,” Colletti said. “So rather than go through this all season long and wander back and forth, back and forth, this was the best course of action.” With Padilla slated to be a reliever, his rehabilitation process presumably will not be as lengthy as it would be if he were a starter. If not for Colletti, the situation likely would have been portrayed far differently in this space, as rookie manager Don Mattingly’s evasive responses earlier created confusion. In his morning briefing with reporters, Mattingly showed he had a long way to go before anyone started calling him Donnie Press Conference.
These hands will always be rough
This thread was funny, I especially enjoyed the Molina sub-thread.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Shlick-ting (as ChiSox announcers said it) nails it down!
He reminds them of Jeff Weaver, they said.
Great that Elbert settled down. A good game over all!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
is that not how you pronounce German’s name?
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
oh my mistake
for some reason I thought it was Schleeschting.
I just call him The German From Denver.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I could see that. Tall, lanky, similar throwing motion.
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
they also pointed out his long blond hair.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Dodgers are now 11-16-1
If they lose the rest of their exhibition games, they will be 11-24-1, which is a .319 win percentage. They need two wins, or a win and a tie to avoid the Joey zone.
You are about to enter another dimension -- a dimension not only of fake game wins and losses but of predictive value --
…the Joey Zone
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
they won't lose the rest of them anyway
but I like to say to people who panic about ST records, “They are 0 and 0 where it counts.”
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
11 – 24 is a good date, not a good record
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Interesting game you have there with the roster contest
it seems the only way to win is not to play.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this a trick question?
he got old – I assume
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 23, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He coached the Seahawks to a Super Bowl.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
and then sometimes writes columns for the SF Chron under the pseudonym “Ray Ratto”
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
He also does those diabeetus commericals
by Michael White on Mar 23, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He also sometimes impregnates Melissa Ethridge.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Not in the fun way tho.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You see, Marty, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much and want to make a baby….
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 23, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t watch much golf when he was any good. I am more a fan of Stadler because of his girth and facial hair.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
he cloned himself
and passed it off as his son
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Great headline on ESPN
for one of the news stories on the top right of the page:
Lawrence Taylor on prostitutes: ‘I don’t card’
Organizational Rankings
I compiled my own, hopefully more sensible than Fangraphs, organizational rankings – as an exercise in seeing how good of a ranking system I could come up with in less than 30 minutes. The Dodgers jump from #23Org in the Fangraphs list to #12 in my rankings. All my spreadsheet work is open source, so no extra points to the Dodgers for running a blog.
Two issues -
Counting wins from three years ago seems kinda pointless. The 2008 and 2009 Dodgers don’t resemble this team all that much.
Wins per dollar is completely irrelevant, but it gets a 15% ranking. I know you’re trying to measure GM strength by this, but the system says that Cashman and Epstein are worse GMs than Ed Wade and Chris Antonelli.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the comment. Wins are weighted
2011 weight of 4
2010 weight of 3
2009 weight of 2
2008 weight of 1
One size fits all but probably as good as anything Fangraphs uses.
Wins (above replacement) per dollar is not necessarily there to evaluate GMs 100%. Just how efficiently money is spent. Hard to evaluate how good the $200M GMs are until they have to walk in the Rays moccasins. Thanks for the input though. :)
Brian Wilson likely to miss beginning of the season
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2011/news/story?id=6251708
These hands will always be rough
And
Cody Ross with a right calf strain. Karma for those fucking fans flying that banner on opening day.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Exactamente!
And Cain shelled today, amidst worries about his arm.
Harumph, bring it on, let it rain down on those asshats.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Should I invite people to come watch Opening Day with me?
Or should I go it alone in a bar and wear sweatpants just in case?
Who's Dioner Navarro?
How bout your baseball class?
or is that out since the class is over?
These hands will always be rough
Most of the kids who are of age aren’t exactly huge baseball fans. By that, I mean big enough fans to want to come see a televised game between two teams they don’t care about. I have friends that like baseball but the same rule applies. I’m thinking of wearing my Ethier jersey and a sign that says GFY.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
But its opening day!
losers the whole lot of them then. Gotta pimp the Ethier jersey on opening day.
These hands will always be rough
I’ll class it up and wear leggings. They’re like sweatpants except more socially acceptable for chicks to wear.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
You see leggings are very tight and tend to accentuate certain areas of the body.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey men in leggings is totally manly, they could just be magical submission pants.
Wait…
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I got it, I just wanted to make a magical submission pants gay joke is that too much to ask?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You didn’t let me troll Nolander about making potential comments about my ass, so yes. Yes it is.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Fair enough, I’m cranky from moving from the last week and having to resort to 4 AM martini time to fall asleep last night.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew you were drunk tweeting late last night / early this morning. You and delias man too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yep, had to get really wired to finish moving at one AM, had no hope of falling asleep last night so I ended up drinking martinis and watching Americas Next Great Restaurant. I would have really preferred the sleep.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I on the other hand
applaud him saving me from my awkward self. Bravo sir, bravo.
These hands will always be rough
That would be awesome
but sadly no. One day I’ll wear bike shorts with pride! Oh who am I kidding, humanity doesn’t deserve that.
These hands will always be rough
Commented this before but
Eric and I had dinner one night in AZ with two writer/mods from Purple Row and three writers or commenter from AZ Snakepit. I proposed the toast of “Fuck the Giants” to hearty approval.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
@cgrand14 (Curtis Granderson) retweeted by @nrmnbates (Eric Enders)
I don’t like to criticize media. They have a job to do & sometimes have to be the bad guy. But @LATimesTJSimers should be ashamed of himself
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Well when the first thing out of your mouth
is an insult, most people don’t tend to play nice with you
These hands will always be rough
there was even worse language about it here when that appeared
and you should find morgan ensberg’s tweet about it today…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Hmm
this is getting bigger and bigger. Peter Gammons replied to Granderson
@pgammo @cgrand14 I know that to be true. Thank you for defending a good person
Bob
Would you mind posting the link of your tweet here too? (May as well, I’m going to quote it here if you don’t.)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
@bobtimmermann http://nyti.ms/gZURzm NY Times profile of Marcus Thames from back in 2006.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I'll do it
5 years ago, NY Times did a story on Thames (then a Detroit Tiger
DETROIT, Oct. 21 — Veterine Thames watches the world from a custom hospital bed in the back room of a modest yet bustling five-bedroom brick-and-aluminum-sided ranch in Louisville, Miss. She cannot move her legs, she cannot move her torso and she cannot grasp anything. She has been in this condition for more than 24 years.
But Thames can talk, she can see and she has persevered. She reared five children, mostly on her own, while lying on her back. One of them is Marcus Thames, who plays for the American League champion Detroit Tigers
The real crime was making a lazy “man, this guys name is hard to pronounce” joke.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 23, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part was that Simers kept using that “Timms or Thames” shtick during the questioning. That transcribing (and listening to in person, for Dave) was hell.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 23, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A year to rebound...
I’m a little surprised at the gloomy predictions for the Dodgers this year. It was a classic whole team meltdown and I expect good things this year. Ethier, Kemp, Loney, Broxton, Billingsley and Furcal had it pretty tough (not to mention starting the season depending on Manny, Martin and ? for the 4th and 5th starters). Manny and Martin obviously won’t disappoint us this year and the rest of the boys should all have better stats. I expect a great start out of the gate and a lot less blown leads from the bullpen. 89 – 90 wins should put us back in the playoffs and then anything can happen (take a look at what happened with the Giants last year).
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