2011 Dodgers Player Profile: Hiroki Kuroda, One Tough 男
by David Young on Mar 25, 2011 6:00 AM PDT
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PrintPerhaps Dodger fans weren't quite sure what they were getting when their team signed Hiroki Kuroda to a three-year, $35.3 million contract before the 2008 season, but if they trusted the pitching perception skills of Logan White, the Dodger Assistant GM, Amateur and International Scouting who scouted Kuroda several times in Japan, they should have expected a solid pitcher. White had this to say about the newly-signed hurler:
"He's got a loose, easy delivery, nice arm action," White said. "He throws strikes, he's around the zone. His basic fastball is going to be in the 89, 95 [mph] range. He locates the fastball well, he's got a hard, late-breaking slider, it's sharp and crisp. He's got a forkball that dives straight down."
Of course there were skeptics. A certain writer here made an unfavorable comparison of Kuroda to Kyle Lohse and also wrote:
That leaves two upsides to this signing. The first is that Kuroda will probably be better than Esteban Loaiza, making us a better team this year and giving us more depth when the injuries to our pitching staff start piling up. The second is that he gives us another option next year if the top arms get taken off the market and none of our young pitchers are ready. Even in the second case though, I'd probably rather give this money to Derek Lowe or Oliver Perez than Kuroda.
What Kuroda has turned out to be is a solid middle of the rotation starter that has avoided a serious arm issue over the course of his first contract. According to his fangraphs statistics page, Kuroda has averaged 92.2 MPH (about the midpoint of the range White stated) with his fastball, has thrown the slider 28.2% of the time as his secondary pitch, and has mixed in that hard "forkball" (or split-finger fastball) at 87.3 MPH. That adds up to a pitcher who creates his fair share of ground balls (1.64 career GB/FB ratio) and has increased his strikeout rate by a significant amount each season.
This is not a trend that Kuroda would seem to be able to continue, especially at age 36, but perhaps it is indicative of having an ability to adapt successfully to the hitters he has been facing in Major League baseball. Certainly it's far more favorable to Dodger fans than if it trended in the opposite direction, especially since his walk rate has been fairly level.
While Kuroda has avoided serious arm injuries, he has spent some significant time on the disabled list, mostly in 2009, when he endured 55 days on the DL with a strained oblique and 21 more days there in the aftermath of being struck in the head by a line drive. He also missed starts at the end of that season with a bulging disc in his neck. Some mild tendinitis sidelined him in his first year, but he spent no time on the DL last season, and in both those campaigns he made 31 starts, or only one less than one would expect from a full-time third or fourth starter in a five-man rotation.
If not for having his last start of 2010 reassigned at the end of last year once the Dodgers and their opposition had both been eliminated from the playoff chase, Kuroda would likely have exceeded 200 innings for the first time in the U.S.
Not surprisingly, Kuroda became actively involved in Spring Training with efforts to raise money for earthquake and tsunami relief for the people of his native Japan. The American Red Cross accepts on-line donations for their relief efforts in the aftermath of these natural disasters at this page.
Trivia
In 2010, Kuroda led all of major league baseball by collecting nine losses in quality starts. In those nine starts, he averaged: 6.44 IP, 5.4 H, 5.3 K, 2.0 BB, 2.7 R, 2.3 ER.
He was nicknamed "Giants Killer" for his work versus the Yomiuri Giants in Japan's NPR. Against the San Francisco Giants, his statistics are quite close to his career averages, along with a 2-2 won-loss record, but Dodgers fans would relish the opportunity to resurrect this particular moniker.
In keeping with the Dodger fascination with bloodlines, Kuroda's father, Kazuhiro also played in the NPR, mostly in the 1950s, and his mother put the shot in the 1964 Tokyo Olympics (source).
His first major league strikeout victim was fellow countryman Tadahito Iguchi, then of the San Diego Padres, who was the second batter Kuroda faced as a Dodger.
Contract Status
In mid-November, Kuroda re-signed with the Dodgers, agreeing to a one-year deal worth $12M plus $0.5M in possible performance bonuses. Details here.
Stats
| Year | Age | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP | x-FIP | tERA | ERA+ | WHIP |
| 2008 | 33 | 183.1 | 2.06 | 5.69 | 3.73 | 3.59 | 3.93 | 3.92 | 112 | 1.216 |
| 2009 | 34 | 117.1 | 1.84 | 6.67 | 3.76 | 3.58 | 3.66 | 3.52 | 106 | 1.142 |
| 2010 | 35 | 196.1 | 2.20 | 7.29 | 3.39 | 3.26 | 3.57 | 3.15 | 113 | 1.161 |
| 2011 Projections - Age 36 Season | ||||||||||
| Year | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP | WHIP | ||||
| Bill James | 209.0 | 2.41 | 6.20 | 3.66 | 4.04 | 1.24 |
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| Marcel | 169.0 | 2.34 | 6.92 | 3.65 | 3.55 | 1.22 |
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| Baseball HQ | - |
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| ZiPS | 164.3 |
2.08 |
6.52 |
3.56 |
1.19 |
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| (Photo by Jae C. Hong - AP) | ||||||||||
2011 Outlook
I will guess that Kuroda stays healthy again, at least for the most part, accumulates 200 innings, while posting a 3.49 ERA and a 1.20 WHIP. What's your prediction for Hiroki Kuroda in 2011? Give us your guess for ERA, innings pitched, and WHIP in the comments, and feel free to add any other predictions you have as well.
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I’d probably rather give this money to Derek Lowe or Oliver Perez than Kuroda.
You do this gig long enough (as a writer or commenter,) and we all rack up some bad calls.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Most definitely.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 25, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Well shit.
Kuroda has had a better career than any Japanese starter at least, but, wow, Oliver Perez?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, that binder was really awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Scott Boras does it again. Do you think he laughs every 2 weeks when he gets his 10% check from the Mets?
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At least I was for it coming off his good year, not 2008 where the Mets were basically forced to sign him. Still no excuse for that though.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m suddenly less upset that my webhost deleted all my databases.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Considering a webhosts job is to store data, nope. Computers are gone now.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, but I just had to go with it.
Nomo has had higher peaks, with three or seasons that stack up well, but that is an interesting angle, best Japanese starter in MLB. Better than the more ballyhooed DiceK for sure. Wish I had thought of that for an additional paragraph.
I also forgot to mention the curve he is working on this ST and has used in spring games.
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by David Young on Mar 25, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Kuroda
197 IP
3.43
1.23 WHIP
Manages to be 2nd on the staff with 14 wins, meaning not a whole lot as Billingsly has a better overall year but has hard luck w/ decisions
Fixed
Manages to be2ndtied for first on the staff with 14 wins
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Furry
My paranoia turns to shortstop. Bad meat in the DR? Sounds like he ordered the Beltre special.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Great stuff, DY
I think this will be Kuroda’s last hurrah with the Dodgers. He’ll stay healthy all year [knock wood] and D2X will try to limit his innings. He will have one freakishly good outing (perhaps a one-hitter using only 86 pitches) and his Dodger reign will end on a positive note.
I don't normally make many pop culture comments
but I thought that “Friday” song was a joke.
Now I’m told its a real song and people are actually buying the song and listening to it. Am I missing something? People’s music tastes are that bad?
I think if I was 8 years old I would still know that song is terrible. Unless it really is meant to be funny.
Many people are buying it because it is worth the $.99 or whatever to be in on the joke. And/or they feel bad for young Rebecca because an innocent, stupid thing she put together has made her into a national laughingstock.
I think a lot of people don’t realize that actual grown-up adults, unrelated to Rebecca Black, wrote the song. SHAME ON THEM.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And that Rebecca Black’s mother forked over a couple thousand dollars to those folks to write and record the song.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been operating under the assumption that it was just a cool bat mitzvah present* that turned into something else.
*I have no idea if she’s Jewish or had a bat mitzvah, but it is crazy expensive as just a thing to do for a kid.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Or in retrospect, a pretty shrewd investment
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty soon, Mr. and Mrs. Black will have a lucrative consulting business.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
“Rich Dad, Poor Taste”
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
She's not the only kid
who came out of that label where parents fork over 3 grand for their kid to record a song. There’s also:
Butterflies
Ordinary Pop Star
Without your love
You’re Welcome
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Quick reminder
I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH
debuted at #1.
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It’s about as awesome as
SNAP YA FINGERS
DO DA STEP
YOU CAN DO IT ALL BY YOSELF
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I like a lot of songs that aren’t “good songs”.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
So do I
Mickey Avalon is fantastic for example.
That’s why I thought this Friday song was a SNL song or something.
Maddz Daddz had some Mickey Avalon as his ring tone for a while. Said it made him answer his phone really quick.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
You’ve clearly never spent an appropriate time deliberating where to sit during a car ride whilst being driven around by your middle school aged friends. And been inspired enough to set it to music.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
RIGHT?
The social hierarchy of motor vehicle seating is actually quite pressing for the adolescent demographic!
Also, I liked the little joke she played on me at the very beginning of the song. “Gotta get a bowl” — Ok, Rebecca, engaging in a little wake and bake are we — “gotta get some cereal, too” — AHH I see you are just pulling a joke on me and are actually a mild-mannered kid who is just looking forward to the weekend.
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You knew if you got shotgun you were going to ride around like you were the shit.
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haha
I always hated it when they made me sit in the middle seat, because the people next to me were usually smaller. I’m sorry, I’m 5’8", I do not fit here.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Only time I rode middle of the bench seat was a boy scout trip to Camp Chawanakee near Fresno.
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Yeah, but we didn’t sing about it, we’d just give a deadleg to the dude who called shotgun, and push him out of the way.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I was 5’9 at 12, I nevr got deadlegged and never had to give anyone else one.
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Well excuuuuuuuuse me your majesty, with your civilized adolecent motor vehicle seating arrangements
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s not civilized, it’s evolution. He who does not mess with those bigger than himself gets to live.
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/youtube video of large australian kid reverse powerbombing some little dick bully
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I can retroactively mess with you, if you like. 12 year old Maddz would have been seriously unimpressed.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
12 year old Maddz would have destroyed 12 year old GScott. I was awkward, shy and generally intimidated by girls. Which, as we know, you would have eaten up.
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I dunno about eaten up. Utterly destroyed you at soccer and basketball, perhaps. But I was completely unaware of boys in any other capacity than playing sports with.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
have you guys seen this send-up of it?
a British actor reads it as if it were a classic stage text.
http://www.youtube.com/user/handsomemike1#p/u/0/f8blNEcCkDY
(the sound quality could be better but it still comes across. hilarious.)
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or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8blNEcCkDY
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To bring it all back around:
Yesterday was Billingsley, Billingsley
Today i-is Kuroda
We we we so excited
We so excited
Kuroda gonna get the ball today
Tomorrow is Lilly
And Ely comes after-wards
I don’t want this series to end
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
John Sickels has an interesting Prospect Smackdown feature up
Its kind of an odd smackdown, because they aren’t really comparable types of players (he’ll usually do one power hitting prospect vs. another power hitter for example) but I guess in this case they could be fighting for who gets called up first.
by BFDC on Mar 25, 2011 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ya, I guess you could say they are both fighting for the first vacancy in the Dodger outfield.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
If Trayvon earns the job over Sands
Trayvon to center, Kemp to right, Ethier to left.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Was
Listening to Trayvon talk to some people at Camelback and he was asked which position he wanted to play, he said center. He also matter of fact said the Dodgers had told him early on that he was going to Abq.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 8:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Depends on who gets hurt and who is playing the best. If Kemp goes down, you might see trayvon called up or you might see TGJ move to CF and they go back to calling up whoever is playing better for LF. OR, If TGJ takes over in CF they might keep the current LF platoon in place and bring up Russ Mitchell to take the bench spot.
I think for either of these guys to get called up before September we’d need multiple injuries in the OF just because TGJ can play any position without using one of Tray/Sands’ options.
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If guys are good, you don’t worry about burning option years. Billingsley, for example, has never been optioned. Service time and money is more of a worry for these guys.
If they are fringy, options matter, but then who really cares if you lose them in a few years when they are out of options?
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
But if Gibbons and Thames are doing what they’re supposed to do, and Kemp/Dre are both healthy, Sands and Tray will wait. If it’s going to just be a temporary callup, I don’t think either of them get called up.
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so basically
if we see either Sands or Trayvon in the OF, something has gone horribly, horribly wrong?
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Gibbons reminding everybody why he was out of baseball recently doesn’t seem that far-fetched. And really, Sands may well be better than Gibbons right now anyway.
If Kemp or Andre get injured, we’re in bad shape.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
But Sands would be filling the Thames side of the platoon, not the Gibbons side. If they bring up Sands to play LF, they’ve decided neither Gibbons or Thames are MLB outfielders anymore.
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That would be a bummer, but the Dodgers could deal with that.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t Trayvon on the 40 man? Meaning that he’s already been optioned this year.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Suppose so, so then why use one of Sands’ unnecessarily? I guess if they didn’t expect either of them to use all three options anyway, it might be a non-issue to the FO.
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They can’t use all three in one year, I’m pretty sure. That’s how DeWitt was able to bounce back and forth between ABQ and LA a few seasons back…that only burned one option.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Correct. Options are based on years, not individiual times.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I more meant, if he’s only going to be up for a couple weeks, there’s no reason to make room for Sands on the 40 man by DFAing someone (unless we have room) and burning an option. It’d be smarter just to bring up Russ Mitchell for that 15 days or whatever.
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Which is my roundabout way of saying I think Trayvon would come up first.
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Knowing Ned, he might pick Oeltjen, who actually might be as good as Gibbons.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
They brought up Jansen last year. If there is a need for Sands and the Dodgers are still competitive, I don’t think he’d hesitate.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
if it weren’t Jansen, who were the other options?
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I don’t remember exactly at that moment. But I assume McDonald was available as was just not making a move and sticking with what you’ve already got.
And McDonald vs. Jansen are closer to one another than Sands and Oeltjen.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
But, IIRC, after they’d brought up non-prospects stiffs like Link, Schlichting and Miller.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes, but that could be explained away by Jansen still developing. Link and Schlichting were at least developed pitchers who could provide help in a pinch. Once Jansen was ready, they utilized him.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Jansen was also used differently. Link and Schlichting were, to me, more like Jeff Weaver whereas Jansen was more like Kuo because he threw so freaking hard.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
I’m not really disagreeing with that. I think that, if they view Sands how they view Jansen last year, they won’t call him up too early. If (Insert OF here) goes down in May, then they’d probably go with the ML-ready OF (Oeltjen), even if he’s not that good, over rushing Sands or Tray.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Agreed. For a guy like Hoffmann, his best chance to get on the 25 man is to have an early injury to an outfielder. Late injuries mean that Tray or Sands might (hopefully) be ready or the club is in a playoff push and will make a trade for an outfielder.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup. I’m with you there. Also, I completely forgot about Hoffmann. If Kemp is the Bison, could Hoffmann be the Water Buffalo?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t disagree with that. Wouldn’t expect to see either of them before June just to make sure they are ready and if for nothing else, the service time issue.
I actually don’t even think they’ll really play aroudn with the service issue thing either. These guys arent’ Kershaw who you KNOW will be around in arbitration so you basically just wait to call him up. If Sands plays well enough and earns time to be a super-two, you deal with it (like Ethier.)
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
oh hey, question
would Loney going down or just being even more awful than he is right now change the issue? I know that Sands is projected to be an OF, but his bat would play at 1B, right? That could help get him through the door.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
I’d expect Blake at first and Carroll at third. Or if it was a major injury, Uribe to third and Carroll to second.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If they move Blake to first, Uribe will be the one to move to 3B with Carroll or IDJ at 2B.
They aren’t moving Blake to 1B.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I am slowly beginning to see the genius of the FO. We have a very versatile team.
A very bad yet very versatile team.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
That’s why it’s not his job. He gets a say in who he wants, but it’s Ned’s job to manage the roster. I’m sure DeJon gets involved everytime they call someone up too.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Yes, Loney going down directly brings Sands into play (if he’s ready of course.) To play first base or to do move outfielders (Thames) to first and have Sands play outfield.
Same logic though with Trayvon though. If Trayvon truly outplays Sands and they want him up first, he could still benefit. Thames to first Trayvon to CF, Etheir to LF, Kemp to RF.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
hurt, maybe. Awful, no.
Sands is projected to be both an OF/1B who will move to 1B as he ages. I think if Loney gets hurt, and it’s temporary, they give first crack to Thames while Gibbons plays LF against righties.
If Loney gets hurt between now and April 12, we might see XPaul and Thames in LF and Gibbons at 1B.
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There is plenty of crap on the 40 man roster that can be DFA’d and you wouldn’t miss them. If the Dodges are still in “win” mode, then don’t screw around with inferior talent for the sake of keeping fringy guys on the 40 man roster and conserving an option year for Sands that is probably meaningless.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree with that, but hasn’t their MO been to keep as many options around as possible?
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I think it becomes an issue when you start getting down to one option on guys who aren’t overwhelmingly MLB players.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
That has to do with guys who aren’t really MLB players, but not with options. Gimenez is still our 4th best catching option, regardless of how he hits. I still remember other teams turning walks into doubles off Piazza on a regular basis. The difference was, Piazza would get up and hit his own double.
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Ya, if Sands is a prospect worth anything, then you shouldn’t need to worry about options.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Fun read, I don’t disagree with too much of his report.
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Yah, seemed pretty fair overall
I agree that Tray could use one more full year in minors but that we will also likely see him at some point this year, and possibly ahead of Sands.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
While not the biggest Sickels fan
I thought it was an excellent piece. The more I think about it, the harder it is to separate those two. With any luck, both force their way onto our radar with solid 2011 campaigns. I think even right now, in a pinch, each could be serviceable if called into emergency duty. Let’s hope that is not necessary.
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Hit the road older Stephen, Ian, and HJ
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Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I am going for personal record of suckitude on this one, but still enjoying the heck out of the tournament
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The top 15 best scores all have kansas or Ohio State winning it all. Should be an interesting final. Come on OSU 71-70!
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I’m partial to OSU beating the Devil’s Dandy 75 – 70
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I think if Ohio State plays Kansas in the final I’m looking pretty Fing good, regardless of who wins.
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I’m glad they won, so he might come to my party tonight, and yet upset because he messed up my bracket. That being said, I had UConn beating Duke next round, so Arizona may have made it easier on me.
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Arizona – pride of the Pac Double Digits
Missed the big run they had to put away Duke, was having to much fun enjoying my Thursday Night Lineup which was good from beginning to end. I don’t know if perfect couples is coming back, but it makes us laugh. Brita was extra hot as a brunette.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I watched the early games and regretted not posting a comment I made in my head before they started, “Are Jimmer and Kemba the best two players in the tourney” [Sullinger also came to mind]. Then Derrick Williams went out and made those two look like scrubs (I didn’t see it but have read all the reactions). Just an absolutely amazing sporting event, this tourney, second to none imo.
Without question, Williams has been the best player in the tournament so far.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Wait, really? That fanpost is where a whole slew of fanposts come from. I think it contains my first green comment.
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It is irritating that, that particular fanpost shows up so much.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I actually think it's pretty interesting
in that it offers a definitive look at how TBLA views baseball. I think of it as the thread that really shows how TBLA commenters are different than dodgers.com commenters, both in comportment and in what “we” view as being important: i.e., the long run rather than the very short term.
I mean, really, despite the fact that the point made by the fan post was really, truly disagreed with, y’all were actually fairly civil and polite about it.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
It’s quite possibly the worst fanpost we’ve ever had.
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it's the fanpost
that keeps on giving
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
I enjoyed reading it now
am glad I missed it when it was posted and strangely sad that I missed it when posted
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It was the precursor to the infamous GFY, which probably should have a link in the TBLA Glossary
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
that's just the alpha version
I’m sure some pioneering moderator will clean it up and make it pretty and put the official seal of approval on it and what not.
CoughcoughMikecoughcough
Who's Dioner Navarro?
It is a wonder how Crasnick can still type out an article
With Youk and Pedroia’s dick in each hand
He must use dragon naturally speaking
I remember doing a report on dragon natural speaking in the 6th grade
These hands will always be rough
I’d love to have a Pedroia and Youk, and if we did I’d never stop writing about them.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
this is really funny
Youkilis’ scouting report isn’t so charitable. First he observes that Pedroia is trying to "bring back the comb-over.‘’ Then he suggests Pedroia’s haircut should be called "The Big Ern,‘’ in tribute to Bill Murray’s Ernie McCracken character in the bowling movie "Kingpin.’’ Finally he opts for a different sports analogy.
“It looks like the tee box at a par 3 at the Masters after everyone has been hacking away all weekend,‘’ Youkilis said. "There’s only a little bit of grass left there.’’
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Just the fact that Youk can reference Ernie McCracken makes him a winner.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Take THAT, Mel Gibson!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
You can appreciate them as baseball players
without making them seem like Hope and Crosby doing a “On The Road to Boston”
Considering the rough treatment he gave Kemp and now this, I’d say that Jerry takes the easy way out on his articles and just reinforces the popular myth around the player
The Redsox loveable gamer mythos just feels a little cheap
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Youkilis and Pedroia were on time for their interviews
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I
Recall a conversation I had with a Boston fan when both Pedroia and Hanley Ramirez were in their system. He was pretty set on trading Ramirez and keeping Pedroia
It did work out for them in 2007.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 9:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to comment on that, but I didn’t want Weisman all up in my biz again
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 25, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Just because the same guy wrote the columns doesn’t mean one point of view is correct in both cases.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL, FYI, OMG added to Oxford English Dictionary.
Only a matter of time for YCTPYDWFPYD and YCTWHISTARITTRS
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Oh OED,
I think this means I have to break up with the OED. And after it left me dismayed.
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
cause LOL has no purpose being in the OED
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
how are you going to prove first usage of an internet anagram? Furthermore, there’s nothing about LOL or OMG which suggest they will still be relevant 20 years from now.
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to hazard a guess, you know, just a wild one, and state that there are plenty of words in the OED (or were, I’m not sure what the major revision they’re in the process of doing entails) that have fallen out of favor or that no longer have their original denotation as their primary denotation.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
LOL does not belong in the OED because no one ever says "Lol"
Unlike say “Snafu” (Situation normal all fucked up) which has become a word that people say in conversation out loud
LOL and ROFL and all these other lazy signifiers and are useless in conversation
My standard, if no one says it, no one has ever said it, then it can’t be a word
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
thank you HJ, you would never say LOL out loud, or the bartender will question your manhood and refuse to give you Bud Light.
But SCUBA, or RADAR, or Snafu, or BYOB, those are relevant conversational words
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
But we say GFY in conversations all the time, does that count?
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
hey, you’re the one that said BYOB was a word. :)
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
that was Josie – HJ has never said “be-ob”
People come over, HJ buys
Now I know why Rickey talked like that, that shit is fun and addicting
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
we do, it’s meaningless to everyone outside our community. Some people use it at work, to mean other things
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Again, there’s no way you can argue that a word shouldn’t be included in the dictionary because the meaning might change or because the word might fall out of favor. The dictionary is littered with such terms. You think Lincoln had any idea that the word “score” would take on a more recognizable sexual rather than temporal bent only a century after he used it in a speech?
Who's Dioner Navarro?
I just assumed Lincoln was talking about the four hookers he pulled 7 years before the Emancipation Proclamation
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Lincoln clearly foresaw the Emancipation Dunklamation.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
His speech writer should have known but he was to busy dragging on his fag.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Changing meanings and mutliple meanings are fine, language is alive and changing
these abbreviations suffer for me because they are not a part of speech but are symbolic representations phrases that include many words when said
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I get where you’re coming from, and I kind of disagree, but it’s something I’d have to write at length to get at, rather than really succinctly state.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
no need to write at length, I can settle this right now
you are wrong. See saved you time and effort :-p
These hands will always be rough
Probably not, but he is credited for popularizing the phrase “tapping that ass”
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I say “Berb” for BRB. Should I write a dictionary entry for it?
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
hmmm – I finally found something to question about you sir
You were nearly without reproach up until that moment
Berb should not be in the dictionary and you should really stop saying it
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I was really just being a smartass, but despite that, there’s no possible way I am without reproach.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Who of us isn’t? but I thought the comment worked better giving you saintly status
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I looked up the definition of OMG in the OED
and they cite several print publications that used OMG as an acronym to denote “Oh my God”. What’s more, they designate the word as being purely colloquial. It’s going in as a widely used and widely acknowledged colloquialism.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Plus I plan on saying OMG with my last breath just in case, so it will be in oral use 26.3 years from now
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
wow, LOL was first used in 1990 in a usenet newsgroup:
1990 Jargon File Draft, part 4 of 4 in comp.misc (Usenet newsgroup) 13 June, LOL‥laughing out loud.
1993 Re: Walking out of Movies in bit.listserv.cinema-l (Usenet newsgroup) 3 Aug., LOL‥. Damn, that’s even worse‥. Ba Ha Ha Ha ha ha!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
We also can cite the origin of godwin's law
the great thing about usenet(and not so great thing) is its all getting archived somewhere
These hands will always be rough
Just more proof
that technology has made this the century of the nerd
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
whereas OMG was first used in 1917. For the record, I’m okay with OMG and FYI being in the OED, I just don’t see how an anagram from Lots of Laughs has any relevance to anything
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
now that is funny
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I do little in life to dissuade the notion that I’m a 60 year old woman
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Laughing out Loud I guess is the accepted vernacular, my sincerest apologies
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure OMG was first used in 1914, when Archduke Ferdinand exclaimed, “OMG, that guy has a gun!”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can think of about 100 bands worse than FF, just from 2010-2011. Twice my facetiosity didn’t land.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
people don’t get hyperbole on this board. It’s like we’re Canadian
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s cool because the guy’s name is Foster.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
New Strokes has that one radio song, but apparently the album is turrible
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
random rant
why do people think Death Magnetic didn’t suck? “They are totally back to their roots!” Sure, their roots, but a shitty shitty shitty worthless version of their roots.
These hands will always be rough
Well I mean the worst band part
cause if Creed qualifies then COME ON!
These hands will always be rough
Everyone here should read Steven Pinker’s “The Language Instinct.” To me, he’s the last word on the subject (he’s a pure Chomsky disciple and head of Cognitive Nuerosciences or something at M.I.T.). Language evolves, is more about usage than denotation, and is more universal than many think.
I will check this out for sure – a big amateur fan of the philosophy of language, language as a shaper of what we think. language as something that cloaks reality – can we think outside of language?
You got me excited
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
philosophical hermeneutics makes my head hurt, a lot. I’m going to go back to the philosophy of aesth — oh wait, no, I don’t like that either.
Religion, why must you not have a solid, stable methodology? Why must you pilfer from everything and everyone and thus require me to take multiple courses on critical theory?
Who's Dioner Navarro?
Yes we can think outside language :) Language exists to serve us; not the other way around. Lots of linguistic structure present in us at extremely young ages. Thanks for sharing the interest. Clink!
I propose the TBLA Philosophical Colloquium
Where we eat, drink, and talk things.
Robotmadeofnails and I can have a special talk on religion!
Who's Dioner Navarro?
I will present a paper entitled “On the Olfactory Nature of Feline Exhalation as it Relates to the Intake of Nourishment.”
Or, why my cat’s breath smells like cat food.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
My little dog has shrimp breath
Mrs HJ and I can’t figure out how she gets to the Red Lobster without us knowing…
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
damn it, I don't have time
Maddz, tell they about the words and how they shape our perception of reality
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Check it
OK used to be an anagram for “oll korrect”. I had no idea what the letters stood for, and while people do write “O.K.”, we don’t anymore, and we understand what it means. Likely parallel?
Who's Dioner Navarro?
I thought it was merely short for okelly dokelly.
Speaking of which, the OED added “D’oh” a few years back.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
They’re the OED. WTF do they need publicity stunts for?
I would prefer to assume that they really and genuinely are trying to catalogue the language.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
look, I’m throwing in my towel in this cat fight, cause I need to go review a movie. but I’m pissed at my corner man, cause I still had a few punches in me
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
This bums me out
even more than “Za” as a scrabble word
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I do hate that “Za” is a scrabble word. But since I write LOL and people know what it means, I think that it belongs in a dictionary.
Who's Dioner Navarro?
bartending isn’t in the OED. The OED isn’t just a word farm, where everyone goes around farming happy words
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure “Bootylicious” is in the dictionary.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
It’s definitely in the Oxford American Dictionary.
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
LMU’s library server is down, I can’t see your damning evidence : p
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
well that sucks. It’s not in the Oxford American Dictionary, I just assumed. Huh.
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Its a cheap scoring machine, but a real word, unlike Za which they created to balance our Qi.
But if they are going to have those words then the point value for Z and Q should come down – those letters went from being challenging to use to now the equivalent of the scrabble lottery.
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I dislike it being a scrabble word
But since its allowed, I will admit Za has pulled me out of many scrabble holes, its a great ace up the sleeve sometimes
by ManBearPig21 on Mar 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, OED?
GFY
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Mar 25, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
BFD
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
by mleadman on Mar 25, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder what Belisario is doing right now
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This is OT,
but a few months back people were wondering about the payout for extremely large lottery winnings.
http://www.usamega.com/mega-millions-jackpot.asp
There is a huge difference for the ammortized amount versus the Randy Moss method “Straight cash, homey”. Which do you choose?
I can live of 9 million a year
plus it makes it harder for me to fuck up and lose everything, though I’m sure I could use the future payments as collateral or some such thing to screw myself over before I ever get the cash.
These hands will always be rough
take it all
right now
money tomorrow is worth significantly less than money today
and I am not really scared of being an ass and losing it all
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
This
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Money today isn't worth that much either
by Greg Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Investing is wasted on the young
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I have put max contributions into my IRA the last two years and done nothing but lose value. Garbage.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
All I heard was, “Yes, I’d love t o take you on a road trip to watch the Dodgers play for a month”.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
yeah i put my 5k in my Roth for 2010 and 2011.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I started out with stocks, made a bunch of money, lost a bunch of money, put it in a low risk mutual fund until i could find another stock I wanted, continued to lose money, still looking for what I want to re-invest in.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
You are 24. Don’t treat your IRA like you are a day trader. The “R” stands for retirement. You are looking for a return more than a quarter-century from now. Put the money into a few nice mutuals, some riskier, some stabler. Rebalance periodically, like annually, or bi-annually (once every two years, not six months). If you don’t make a decent return from those kind of stock investments over 25 -30 years time, you (and everyone else) probably have much bigger problems to worry about than your retirement.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If you are investing over time for a secure retirement
then probably yes
there are other reasons and times to invest
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm using an IRA as my retirement plan too...
Ira is my father-in-law’s name. :-)
I kid. I have a 403(b) and some other various investments.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I bought a house instead
crossing my fingers hoping that works out for me
These hands will always be rough
with that much money you don’t need to invest it well – just invest it safely
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
you mean like
buy up a slew of businesses that could make me annually what my next payment would be.
by Greg Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a whole nother debate altogether :)
by Greg Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
and rumor has it that he is largely above reproach
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s because your average lotto winner was dumb enough to play the lotto.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I like
Lotto: A tax on those who cut math
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
ESPN Opening Day
I had somehow persuaded myself that the Giants/Dodgers game at 5:00 PDT on Mar. 31 – moved there from Apr. 1 original plan for Dodgers/Giants opening day after all the fuss of getting the World Series Champions SF Giants their opening game on Thursday ESPN in their home town was satisfyingly not agreed to by the Dodgers – was in fact going to be the one and only, unique, opener on Thursday, with all other games on Real Opening Day the following day, April 1.
But that is not the case. It is not even the first real season game (west coast time zone being what it is). The first game, also on ESPN, is – guess where – at Yankee Stadium, Yankees vs. Tigers, 1:00 pm their local time, 10:00 am here. It is then followed by a curious sideshow, again on ESPN, an inter-division game (to start the season??) between the Cardinals and Padres in St. Louis. Presumably these games were scheduled long before our brought-forward game. Only then do they get around to the World Series champs and their traditional rivals – albeit at prime time on the east coast in ESPN prime time.
So is this old hat to everyone else. Does ESPN always get three pre-Opening Day opening day games? A very peculiar tradition, if so. I always thought there was just one (and isn’t it supposed to be in Cleveland or maybe Cincinnati, or something?)
They have been getting one and only one game because it used to be on a Sunday, with the traditional opening day of Monday, but this year is different with the mid-week opening day.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless they open the season in Japan a week before spring training ends.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Even that is odd. Day games on a Sunday would get a huge audience – albeit being outside the regular-season ESPN Sunday time-slot – while day games on a Thursday – also outside any known ESPN time-slot – less so. What’s the reasoning, do you think?
No other alternate programming on a Thursday
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
How canw e be a marquee franchise when we’re only second best in our region?
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
It probably has more to do with the season opening on a Thursday than anything else. And the Yankees are on the east coast so they naturally start their games before us.
The Giants and Dodgers are a prime time game on a Thursday night. That’s the main event of the day for ESPN.
Red fans are still wondering why they are no longer the traditional opener.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Then they go back to their Pete Rose shrines.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I also had no clue that there are three other games besides the ESPN games this Thursday.
Braves/Nats
Brewers/Reds
Angels/Royals
It makes sense
NBA has only 2 or 3 games, no NCAA action, and hockey is hockey. ESPN probably gets good bang for the buck by blocking out this time period for baseball.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Hiroki
The article linked above was slightly before my time here, but I remember a series of exchanges revolving around Kuroda’s purported ability to “pitch out of troble” by “bearing down.” One side vocally opined that he should just avoid the trouble in the first place! Good stuff.
Jon Weisman simply does it again
A wonderful piece of writing about today’s game Tucson
What are those who lost loved ones in the Tucson tragedy told? What do they tell themselves?
As the Dodgers play baseball in his daughter’s memory, what is Dodger scout John Green to think?
Do they say to live each day in honor of your lost love? Do they say to just live?
This is not a self-esteem issue. The man lost his little girl. There is no going back from that.
And this happens every day, every hour, every minute. I know it has happened to readers of Dodger Thoughts.
It takes a special person to be able to survive this kind of loss. I don’t feel that I’m special in that way. But somehow people are?
I thought about this post as I kissed my daughter goodnight on her forehead last night. I wish I were going to be at today’s game.
Jon is pretty special – we are lucky to have him
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Tucson lineup
Gwynn CF
Carroll SS
Ethier RF
Gibbons LF
Loney 1B
Miles 2B
Ellis C
Sellers 3B
Redding P
He was
minor leaguers can suit up for games
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't you wish you had us around in class
Maddz could start to answer a question and go hey, I think Eric knows what the answer is, I’ll ask him first.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought they just referred to as
Goddess
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
only from a western viewpoint – you could be an incarnation of Tara
western religions really seem to dig the abstract
and not appreciate women much
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That was the original title of “I Am Number 4.”
True story.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
When’s the last time Redding pitched? I feel like I haven’t seen his name.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
take a look
he’ll get the hook
the Redding Rainbowwwww
Who's Dioner Navarro?
by Maddz on Mar 25, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
His scheduled got jacked on Monday
He was going to pitch the night game, but with the day rain out Kershaw bumped him. Redding threw on the side instead.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
making his
Catch-57 run at the roster
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
and I thought I read that Kemp was supposed to play. I realize they have a schedule to keep, but you’d think they’d want to throw everyone out there to start for a benefit game like this.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Ethier, Loney, Gwynn, and Carroll were listed
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
It was on a volunteer basis for veterans
since it is a 2 hour ride each way.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Also with the split squad
I believe there is some agreement that you will bring some regulars to that game so its not their regular team vs all minor leaguers and bench guys.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Then how do the Royals justify playing any games?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I hear they have already carved up a 2015 World Championship trophy to sell in pieces to their fans.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I just read that Aaron Cook broke his finger and is out until May
Is this old news that was reposted? The date on the article was old, but I hadn’t heard this before.
uh huh
hector just made the team then. So uh… who else gets to make the team now?
These hands will always be rough
What they don’t need are publicity spin classes to stretch the truth — they have that mastered.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you sure it says “strained/torn oblique” and not “phantom/missing whatchamacallit?”
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yes.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
how embarressing is that
“Look, you’re not playing well, so we’re going to send you on the DL. We are going to pay you not to play.”
Who's Dioner Navarro?
It’s not embarrassing when the guy is actually hurt.
There seems to be a lot of speculation that the Dodgers would prefer Gimenez (or Ellis) to Navarro, and that somehow this is a fake injury. That is 100% false.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
When has something being 100% false ever stopped us before?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
are you talking about hiding your attraction to men or being injured?
Just checking after our discussion on meaning
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, unless your GM is a dick and sends you down to the minors first.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Only time I remember is the A’s did it to Brad Halsey.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
It was the basis of a grievance with Tony Abreu. They compromised on the service time.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was determined that if the club tried that the union would kill them for it. We joked about trying it with Martin last year.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
My fantasy team is screwed.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You can still pick up Gimenez.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
1. You all know that I share your feelings on the lottery, even if my preferred catchphrase is slightly different (“it’s a tax on the stupid”). However, I have contributed five dollars to join the people in my office in buying tickets. I am ashamed. I have no courage of my convictions. What is worse is that I cannot be a sourpuss about it and say that we are all stupid for buying tickets. They’ll just look at me and say, if you don’t want in, don’t join in. And they’d be right.
2. I have made just two comments today, and they contain three Simpsons references. I am ashamed of myself.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
I have played the lotto... twice I think
both in a work pool. Just cause why the fuck not? Its two bucks.
These hands will always be rough
Two bucks in the lottery is still two bucks torn up and thrown into the trash.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Gambling has better than an 11% ROI, but still, it’s two bucks for a dream.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
How do you think? :-)
The last time I gambled anything more than 5 or 10 dollars was…. lessee… six years ago? Seven? A trip to vegas. I lost one hundred dollars and hated myself for it.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The $100, on the first night, was almost completely lost in ten minutes. That was fucking depressing. I was down to $10. I turned that all the way back into $200 over the next several hours. That was fun; winning was fun.
Then the next day I lost all $200, $5 at a time, slowly working my way down to zero. That was not fun. It was also boring, but I couldn’t pull myself away; the promise of winning it back was in my brain. Until it wasn’t.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I used to gamble a lot
like rated player and comped shows, meals, rooms a lot.
Fun days, Mrs HJ worked as a LV cocktail server for her dissertation and I showed up on the weekends for fun and love
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I play a single dollar on the lottery now and then
No harm as fun, a real harm when it takes up a percentage of your income or your retirement plans have lottery as an investment vehicle
If I ever won the lottery, I am pretty sure I would feel ashamed by the wealth and never tell a soul
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
i play scratchers regularly, but I just like the action. I am under no delusion that I will get rich from it.
I scratch regularly, because it hits the spot, I am under no delusion that my itch will go away.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I play the pools at work, mostly because I don’t want to be “that guy” that didn’t get in and plus it is only a few bucks.
Those are the exact reasons why I played.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Same here. It’s for fun, so why not play along.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s funny, I read OB’s comment differently (and, no surprise, more negatively): sometimes you have to do things that you don’t want to do to be a part of a group. So I’m sucking it up, shutting up (at least, I’m shutting up at work), and giving them my money, even though I think it’s foolish and I wish they wouldn’t do it.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
D-Backs lineup
Roberts 3B
Parra LF
Upton RF
Young CF
Miranda 1B
Ransom 2B
Owings SS
Blanco C
Galarraga RHP
Rick Wise for Steve Carlton
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Troy Glaus for Scott Rolen
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Dick Sargent for Dick York.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Julie Newmar for Eartha Kitt
Eartha Kitt for Lee Meriwether
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Callback?
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
by Humma Kavula on Mar 25, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric for Reg:)
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
historical
Liz Taylor for Debbie Fischer
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 25, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Sort of
But multiple players were involved too.
The coolest example, which ended up amounting to nothing much, was a three-way challenge trade of only first basemen: Lee Stevens for David Segui for Brad Fullmer in March 2000
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
PED salesman was in jail
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
The closest I can remember are similar talent level trades like:
Edinson Volquez – Josh Hamilton
Matt Garza – Delmon Young
I think my favorite trade of all-time is:
December 5, 1990: The San Diego Padres traded Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter to the Toronto Blue Jays for Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez.
Speaking of the Padres, how about Ozzie Smith for Gary Templeton?
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Authorities believe substances were involved.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
The Garza/Young trade had some other notables and Bartlett had one year he was better then either of the principles.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
My curiosity has finally got the better of me, so I'll bite
What does the hiragana(?) word in the the title mean?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Kevin winning the Dallas game last night was just the right pitch. Has he every come out a head before in anything?
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
He won the “don’t go in the bathroom after me” Dundee.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
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