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2011 Dodgers Player Profile: Matt Kemp, Primed For A Rebound

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Kemp

We have reached the end of our player 2011 profile series, and we end on likely the most important person on the Dodgers this season. Though the Dodgers will have new regulars this season at catcher, second base, and left field, the Dodger offense will likely go as far as the core of Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, and to a lesser extent James Loney, will take it. With Loney, his level of production has been pretty well established at this point, and Ethier has been fairly steady, only needing to remain injury-free. Which leaves us with the player with perhaps the widest possible range of outcomes in his 2011 performance: Matt Kemp.

Kemp had a down year in 2010, to say the least. He began the season on fire, and was atop the triple crown leaderboards after the first two weeks of the season. Kemp had seven home runs and 20 RBI in the first 14 games of the year, but then it all went south. Kemp managed to put up a sub-.300 on-base percentage in each of the last four months of the season (counting three days in October as part of September), and ended the season with a .249 average and .310 OBP.

After a half season with a .411 batting average on balls in play, then two full seasons of a .361 and .345 BABIP, Kemp saw his BABIP plummet in 2010 to .295. If Kemp in 2010 had his career BABIP of .334, for instance, adding 13 singles and three doubles to his ledger, he would have hit .276/.334/.482. For a much more detailed analysis of Kemp, his stats, and swing analysis, be sure to read Chad Moriyama's excellent article from February.

Kemp also suffered on the basepaths last year, getting caught 15 times in 34 stolen base attempts after stealing 69 bases at a 78.4% success rate in the previous two seasons combined. Enter Davey Lopes, the former Dodger second baseman and leadoff man who is back in Los Angeles after 29 years away. Lopes, now the Dodgers' first base coach also in charge of baserunning, worked with Kemp this spring. "He would set up and the first thing he would do is raise up," Lopes told Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times last week. "So you've already made a movement, the pitcher's already made a move and you're in the same place. What I would try to do is to instead of raise up, lean toward second base."

Kemp was benched for a few games last June after, let's say, a disagreement with former bench coach Bob Schaefer. While it did seem maddening at the time, it's one of those things that tend to melt away when taking the long view. Kemp started 150 games in center field in 2010, tied for the sixth most outfield starts in the National League, and he also played in every game last season. Kemp is in fact the current active iron man in baseball, having played in 204 consecutive games.

Trivia

Kemp has an active streak of five consecutive games with a a home run. It is tied for the longest streak in the 127-year history of the franshise, along with Roy Campanella (June 11-17, 1950) and Shawn Green (July 21-25, 2001).

Kemp (in 2009) and Lopes (in 1979) are two of four Dodgers to ever have a season with 25 home runs and 25 stolen bases, along with Kirk Gibson (1988) and Raul Mondesi (1995, 1997, 1999)

Contract Status

Kemp is in the final year of a two-year contract that will be pay him $7.1 million in 2011. Kemp will have one more season of arbitration eligibility, in 2012.

Stats

Year Age PA HR
Runs RBI BA OBP SLG wOBA
2008
23 657 18 93 76 .290 .340 .459 .349
2009
24 667 26 97 101 .297 .352 .490 .367
2010
25 668 28 82 89 .249 .310 .450 .323
2011 Projections - Age 26 Season



Year
PA HR
Runs RBI BA OBP SLG
Bill James
671 27 98 95 .280 .339 .484
Marcel
601 21 79 78 .276 .333 .458
Baseball HQ
646 28 84 88 .270 .326 .475
ZiPS
631 23 88 88 .271 .327 .458

2011 Outlook

No matter the reason, Kemp seems primed for a rebound this season. I can't help but note that even in a down year, Kemp hit 28 home runs. I am fully on board the Kemp comeback train, and I think he surpasses those projections above. I'll guess .286/.349/.509 for Kemp with 35 home runs.

Mondesi is the only Dodger ever with 30 homers and 30 steals in the same season, doing so in 1997 and 1999. Kemp will join Mondesi in the 30/30 club this season.

What is your guess for Kemp in 2011? Be sure to guess BA/OBP/SLG, and anything else you wish to guess.

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I'm with you on this one

I think Kemp has a big, big year. I’ll say .292/.364/.512 with 33 HR and 36 steals

by bucknellbruin on Mar 28, 2011 6:40 AM PDT reply actions  

kemp

.294 34 HR 40 steals. Top 5 in MVP voting

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

the book

I hope you are right. But until he shows us something different, I would still throw strike one right down the middle, then go high and tight low and away for the rest of the at bat. He can punish mistakes, but he will swing at balls out of the strike zone.

Maybe James didn’t see Kemp in Spring Training? Maybe he knows pitchers weren’t forcing Kemp to swing at strike one. I’ll take HQ’s numbers, with a slightly higher OBP and hope for 30 home runs. 100 rbi’s will difficult because of who is hitting in front of him.

by Badger I on Mar 28, 2011 6:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Wildly guessing numbers

.287/.340/.500 40/40

HANDLE IT, KEMP

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 6:52 AM PDT reply actions  

tea DOES revive me. oh internet, you are so full of wisdom.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m having mine iced this morning.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m having mine sweet.

/thesouth

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see the corruption has taken hold. We must get her back to the west coast before all is lost!

by EMDarrow on Mar 28, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly had a sweet ass cake. I saw the picture somewhere.

That was bad ass.

by keithc13 on Mar 28, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big year.

.296/.379/.518
32 HRs
41 SBs

by OB12 on Mar 28, 2011 7:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Matt Kemp 2011

.281/.368/.505

32 HR’s and 34 SB’s

7 IBB

by keithc13 on Mar 28, 2011 7:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Bison - 2011

.305/.375/.520
35 HR’s
35 SB’s

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 28, 2011 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

.301/.353/.502
30 HRs
32 SBs
101 RBIs

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

.270/.335/.425

Just good enough that he makes $10mil in arb next year, not good enough that he signs long term.

24 HR
22 SB

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Also

we still on for lunch today? Todd, David, Andrew, et al.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man if Kemp hits .270 and still has a slugging percentage that low, I will be sad.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

League pushes sliders away at him, he adjusts by guessing, starts getting jammed on more fastballs inside, but is strong enough to turn them into bloop singles. A la .270 with a .425.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wildly disappointing if that happens.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

did some math, .425 is super low for those numbers.

Let’s go with .270/.335/.465, a cool .800 OPS

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was told there would be no math.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 28, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Meh

If he goes back to being a decent defender I could deal with those numbers. I wouldn’t like them, but I could deal…

by EMDarrow on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

.287/.355/.518

32 HRs, 45 sb, 95 RBI

1st all-star appearance
2nd gold glove
3rd playoff appearance

by stevesaxaphone on Mar 28, 2011 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m hoping he just says “Fuck it!” and puts this team on his back and carries it to the WS.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 28, 2011 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

i knew all we were lacking was more intensity from one player!

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. So far we're a very optimistic bunch.

I’m thinking:

.287/.358/.495 with 28 homers, 34 steals and 145 references to Rihanna on ESPN.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 8:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I disagree……

There will only be 105 references to Rhianna this year.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Mar 28, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I was being optimistically pessimistic. Like, won’t be what we expect, but not enough to bitch about.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I know I’ll be bitching if he only slugs .425.

by EMDarrow on Mar 28, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp

.280/.360/.510 with 32 homers and 27 steals

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Just go play golf……….

by keithc13 on Mar 28, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the realistic projection IMO. I wanted to be more bullish for the fun of it

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

.270/.320/.470

I feel like Kemp’s problem is that he’s an amazing athlete but a bad baseball player. Anything that can’t be covered with athletic talent he’s terrible at. He can’t make contact, has no real concept of the strike zone, and takes terrible routes in the outfield. Low contact and low walk rate is a terrible combination and unless he starts hitting 40 dingers a year, he’s not going to have great production.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

This is brutal. And I can’t disagree with a word of it.
Matt’s season is really going to hinge on if he can start hitting fastballs again and if he can hold his own behind in the count.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Todd, Andrew, Josie, Marty, Josh, Gary

and anyone else in the area. Are we still on for lunch at Truxton’s today, per our discussion last week? I, for one, am planning on being there. (didn’t want this to get lost up above.)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I was just about to ask, I’m totally down for Lunch Bunch

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a nooner!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

would you be willing to drive me the five blocks over to LMU afterward, I’d take it as a kindness. I’ll be able to get over no problem, it’s the going back.

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a problem.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm up for it

and will also bring some cookies I made yesterday

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Mar 28, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are the man.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noon at Truxton’s. I’ll be there.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is when working for Konami would be oh so clutch. :(

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll dedicate my first martini to you homegirl : )

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

whereabouts do you work?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t that roughly down the street from Truxton’s? I could pick you up.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

it is close

but i was 41 minutes late to work today. not sure if i should go or not.

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

up to you man, just let me know here if you change your mind.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t make it, ended up running incredibly late today.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You and delias man were hanging out?
Or “flu-like symptoms”?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, just couldn’t sleep last night. Didn’t get to bed until 2:30 and forgot I don’t have alarms set at the new place.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry everybody

Can we push it by a half-hour and make it 12:30? It’ll be tough for me to get there by noon. Thanks all and sorry for the last-minute switch.

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just drag yourself over when you can and those that can straggle will hang with you.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right-o. See you all then.

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

BISON

.263/.337/.565

38 HR
47 Doubles
8 Triples
19 NET steals

by silverwidow on Mar 28, 2011 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Alex Eisenberg of baseball-intellect.com

has published his top-15 LAD prospect list. What interested me more, however, was this slo-mo gif of Zach Lee (which he credits to the major league scouting bureau):

He has this to say about the motion:

Lee has very workable mechanics that may only need some fine tuning. His arm action is nice and loose and the ball comes out of his hand very nicely. He’s got the equal-and-opposite mechanics working, where the glove side is almost a mirror image of his throwing arm side. It’s not a requirement, but it’s a trait you see in mechanics that are efficient.

I really like the front side mechanics — he firms his front side up to keep his front shoulder from flying open. The glove stays firm out in front of the chest. He then brings the chest into the glove, and not the other way around.

And you can see he does a good job of getting over his front side, finishing the pitch, and a giving his arm plenty of room to decelerate after release.

The one area I’d work with Lee on is right now is his balance point. I’d like to see him drift through it a little more than he does. Get the hips moving early, gather a little more momentum, and pick up the tempo just a bit, and maybe work on the rhythm between his hand break and stride into foot plant. He could up his velocity by another mph or two as a result.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Also, our own

Chad Moriyama had this tweet a few days back:

@ChadMoriyama After watching video, I sort of get the hype about Zach Lee. I was skeptical about all the top 3 rankings, admittedly.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

His leg drive and hip rotation, along with the whip his arm path and back generate is really impressive. You don’t need a radar gun to know that ball was thrown friggin hard. The only thing that worries me is that he overstrides a bit. watch where he lands on his heel because he’s a bit stretched out. There is a lot of strain on that left knee and hip, but as long as he is able to continue getting over the left leg after it extends he should be okay for awhile.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

cool

Thanks for the link

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot to mention

It’s a pay site (to which I do not subscribe), but you can see his list and the full Zach Lee writeup for free.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet! Can't wait til the General* gets into some game action.

*nickname © Underdog 2011

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

too soon?

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I was just referring to the car in the classic TV programme, Dukes of Hazzard

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely too soon then.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

He satisfies
.285 /.350 / .550

31HR
36SB

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 28, 2011 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Tall and lanky. :)

He showed a very good changeup, but he was missing badly with his fastballs. The ones he left up were hit hard.

He might struggle a lot in AA this year without great command.

by silverwidow on Mar 28, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coulda been just nervous for first "major league" action?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

New look on all the MLB.com team sites today. A bit of a different layout.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

They jacked ESPN’s layout.

by silverwidow on Mar 28, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

not really at all. To me it looks like it’s taking some queues from the At Bat app. If the website is trying to look more like the ap, is that tail wagging dog or dog wagging tail?

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s disney making a toy story attraction at the park years after TS1 and TS2, and using it to promote TS3.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

gotcha. It’s always curious what Disney choses to put in and keep out of DLand.

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like putting in an entire cars LAND?

even though its the shittiest Pixar movie by far?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

that and I was also thinking about just how little you see Pixar’s influence on the park (except for the cash cow Cars) despite Pixar winning a slew of awards for Disney. Also the fact that you still see stuff from the 90s movies, like that Aladdin show that won’t die, or that Pocahontas show which was around for a long time

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was Beauty and the Beast for a long time

then Pocahontas then an amalagum of their afternoon cartoons(tale spin ducktales chip and dale rescue rangers) now its princesses. I think thats the right order. The hard part is that a lot of those older rides are really popular and theres little land left to build on.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

The land issue is the biggest issue IMO. They royally jacked up DCA and need a billion dollar wipe to make it feasible.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

California Adventures isn't that bad

they have enough room I think with the parking lot area to add some good stuff. The problem though is instead of adding good stuff, they are adding cars, so they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not so much what they have but how they have it setup. They really missed an opportunity to have an adult park. The bug’s life land and the water ride/rocky mountain hike are big wastes of space that don’t really draw. Mostly, what makes Disneyland great is how you go from the Hub that serves as a drawing point and can go into each of the different lands. DCA doesn’t have that.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh its totally flawed

and I would never go there just to go to DCA. There is some good stuff there though. You are right that it seems like they wanted to go more adult, but couldn’t bring themselves to go all the way, and now they seem to be pushing it back towards more kiddy friendly.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll never understand why theme park designers think that people enjoy being in their clothes and getting wet.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 28, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

no shit.

at MM the longest line was still roaring rapids last time I went.

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do understand why spring break bar designers think that though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

California Adventures has a ton of Pixar stuff. Also, until a couple of years ago, Pixar was a separate company that probably wanted to hold on to some measure of its own brand. Now that Pixar is more fully folded into Disney, we are seeing more Pixar within the main Disney brand.

Also, I’m still going to disagree with Cars being the worst Pixar movie. Cars 2, however, will make Gnomeo and Juliet look like Casablanca.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just about the current executive now having the billions sunk into C.A. on his hands and trying to find a way to make it work.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

step a) find something better then cars

like oh say, the incredibles or anything not called cars.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they just wanted to shoehorn that Test Track ride from Disneyworld into C.A. in a themed way. If that’s the case, they should have just tore out the Autopia and done Test Track there.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Autopia is too incredibly popular for them to remove it

it may suck now, but it still has hour long lines

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously do not understand the fascination some adults have with Disneyland.

Admittedly, I have not been since I was 18, and I hear things have changed. But seriously – if I want to blow 100 bucks on something, I would rather blow it on a Dodger game. Or lots of books. Or a shitton of chocolate.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least for some of my friends it’s that it’s incredibly easy to sneak booze in.

I went for the first time since I was 10 about a year ago and I don’t get it either. Main problem is that my legs are too long for half the rides.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least for some of my friends it’s that it’s incredibly easy to sneak booze in.

You know what, being 19 was fun and all, but I’m kind of over sneaking booze into things.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

And that’s why you don’t know what Disney jail looks like.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I like to know things, I am glad that I was never compelled to figure that out. I think I’m ok not knowing.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it ever comes up, just remember you can avoid Disney security by sneaking into a gift shop and buying a Mad Hatter hat.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

is that like somehow magically erasing 3 or 4 stars in GTA?

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. Exactly the same. Give a dude some money, avoid prison.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was gonna go with “it’s also easy to sneak booze past the guy at 7-11, after you pay for it, and then drink it in your pajamas”

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Concerts are entirely acceptable to sneak booze into IMO, because to hell with paying 10 dollars for a drink I can only have in a sectioned off area.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’ve been to a festival that doesn’t put you in the beer garden.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Hollywood Bowl lets you bring bottles of wine!

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell I brought a pitcher of margaritas and carne asada last time I went.

The Hollywood Bowl is awesome.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

so when are you and G.

going there for the obligatory “look at us we are a new couple” date that every so. cal couple does?

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t we just go to a sports bar instead?

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

as long as it’s ESPN Zone at downtown disney : )

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

soidfhowiehfwlfehwlefwe

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to make a Bodhi account and write hilarious fanposts about things

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is step 2 toward being a cat lady, step 1 of course being buying a cat

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is step three buying cats 2-30, or is that further down the list?

by EMDarrow on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

:(

Dammit.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

She doesn’t like Disney, and as much as I think she’d have a good time going with me, I’m not going to make her do anything she doesn’t want to do. It’ll just stay a place where my friends and I hang out for now.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

so mostly sports related things?

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t spent enough time in the same place together to really know, man. So far we’ve mostly hung out at the beach and just enjoyed each other’s company. Me showing her the area where I live and her showing me where she lives.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

So this is the second TBLA romance, right? (I’m counting silverwidow and fast food as the first.)

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dunno. if you’re counting SW and fast food, I think Humma and Gin are celebrating their 40th soon.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then there’s Eric and punching babies and/or kittens (that’s more of a love triangle, I guess), Josie and Dre, and who could forget me and K3vo before I ghosted him?

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Humma and Gin are celebrating their 40th soon

Soon? Soon?!?! I still have three years before I officially have to say WTF HOW DID I GET TO BE FORTY

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get him!

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Humma Kavula

Drinking since birth.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least you didn’t fall in love at the shore

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell you what

I will go to Disney if you go to laser tag.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Done.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its still a fun place to go

but if I’m going I’m getting an annual pass and going whenever I feel like it, instead of doing the 10 hour, try desperatly to get my 75 dollars worth and fail marathon.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is why I chose to buy a membership at the zoo or the art museum rather than make the trek down to Disney

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Disneyland is funner to me

I can go to the zoo about once a year and be interested.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funner, huh

Perhaps that’s why I don’t enjoy it

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

/ducks

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone ever been to the zoo when it’s not a billion degrees outside?

I don’t think it’s possible.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

hah

Oh god the zoo formerly known as the Wild Animal Park is always over a 100 when I go.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

went last Saturday in SD. a cool 63 degrees.

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t been to the zoo in forever. I want to go.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I went to the SF Zoo the other day for first time in awhile

and they’ve improved it radically. An awesome lemur habitat (a whole island) which I could watch all day, an African world with giraffes, zebras, etc, and lots of other cool new exhibits. (Plus baby koala and baby anteater.) I was pleasantly surprised.

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by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watch

they’re opening a car ride in DCA so they can improve on the area where Autopia is now.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a crappy movie...

but it is amazing how many kids like it. I see Cars stuff at pretty much all friends/relatives with kids places, more than other Pixar films

by TurnItDown on Mar 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its not a bad movie

its just their worst by far. Its much more generic Disney then their other stuff, but I can see how kids gobble it up.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Disneyland

You don’t acquire a Disneyland passport, you acquire a Disneyland visa.

That is all.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

We really need baseball season to start.

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine that they very likely used the at bat app to test it out first

and then when that got good reception they used it for the main page.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Good, I look forward to having the website crash repeatedly like the At Bat app

by EephusBlue on Mar 28, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

WEBSITES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

GOOD NIGHT!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

And you can only click on 20 articles on Dodgers.com before they make you pay.

by Bob Timmermann on Mar 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

silly NYT, there are already about 20 ways to get around that nonsense

by TurnItDown on Mar 28, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never underestimate the Internet’s desire to avoid paying for stuff.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait. What?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even busier and “noisier”. They clearly think the whole world has ADD. Perhaps they’re right.

by berkowit28 on Mar 28, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

They need to get rid of the damn autoplay menu

that and the adds right below it screw it up for me. Without those and if they just stretched the rest out to fill the space it would look a ton better. Right now it feels… scrunched.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything she said, but I agree with her reasons why it won’t happen more than why it should happen.

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is like the baseball contraction articles that come out once a year. cute article, unrealistic.

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love the CONMEBOL World Cup Qualifying system. It’s like what the Pac-10 had in basketball scheduling (but won’t anymore… sniff….). If you could survive that process, you deserved a spot.

Combining the Americas would make the qualifying more like UEFA’s system, with groups of uneven size.

But why would FIFA want to make it harder for two big TV markets, the US and Mexico, to make the World Cup.

“Welcome to Qatar for World Cup 2022. We’d like to show you some US matches, but instead we’ll have some quality matches between Peru and Belgium for you to watch.”

by Bob Timmermann on Mar 28, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

the one nugget I did like from the article was how she mentioned Mexican clubs compete in Copa America. Right now the CONCACAF Champions League doesn’t do much to improve MLS clubs, but making it a true international experience (instead of just a chance for Mexican clubs to play in America) could really see an improvement in quality of play

by Josie Becker on Mar 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The travel is brutal for club matches. I watch a lot of Libertadores, and these teams from Bolivia, Peru, Chile, and Venezuela are just awful. And Americans will just not understand the history and excitement of that tournament.

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

About Copa America

Mexico just sends their U-23 team to that tournament to get massacred. in 2007 US did the same, and CONMEBOL told them not to come back anymore.

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m 30 and still don’t need glasses. Hopefully that’s good.

by silverwidow on Mar 28, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

My dad is 55, and he refuses to wear his glasses when he needs to. (Which is apprently all the time now). He just gets me to read anything when I’m around.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got glasses when I was 4...

my contact prescription is L:-12 and R:-11.5

without correction the world is a strange and fuzzy place

by TurnItDown on Mar 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got glasses when I was 10 or 11. I’m like 250/20 vision last I checked. It took me years to finally acquire a pair of glasses I thought looked ‘hip’. But not hipster.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, yes. His specs do look similar to mine.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp prediction

662 PA’s
30 HR’s
91 Runs
95 RBI
.293/.346/.475

by Hllywoodgq on Mar 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Tweet

@MikeSciosciasTI So long, Elbert? RT @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Cormier makes #Dodgers’ staff. #MLB

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by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Will Cormier and MacDougal be better or worse than the Ortizii out of the pen? At least neither of these guys will ever start.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s the George Sherrill this year, then?

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am really really hoping for no Sherrill since the only options are Kuo and Jansen. It’s easy to forget how good he was when he first came over in that trade before turning into the crapball he was last year.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike MacDougal, but no on will be able to figure out how a guy who throws 95mph with arm-side movement can get hit so very hard.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it will be easy to figure out

He doesn’t know where the ball is going when it leaves his hand.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

neither does Jansen but somehow the expectations of Jansen are future all star closer and the expectations of MacDougal are a June DFA.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

MacDougal has a long track record of being bad.

Jansen has a short track record of being good and he clearly has something special.

FWIW, I would like to see MacDougal suddenly figure it out. Its just not likely.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They will both end up sucking.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sucks, but I think that means I win the roster contest.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Are you kidding me? Cormier’s threat actually worked?

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to pretend they just cut McDougal instead

a guy can dream right? Or they cut Miller. Yes… that’ll do.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Miles not miller

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just want to play poker with Ned. You can bluff him every hand and win.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is horse shit. The Dodgers let a no-talent hack pull that kind of crap? Now that Mahay isn’t on the club, I now have someone to hate. Boo Cormier. I hope you tear your ACL. And shame on the Dodgers front office.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have options, will travel

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basically

is that what it comes down to?

here’s what will happen, because it’s what seems to always happen, Cormier will be okay a couple of times, and then gradually (or quickly) suck, and they’ll release him, and then call up Elbert from Albq, who will have fared well there, in, say, mid May, and that’ll be that.

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by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

And then

Elbert will suck for his first two outings, and the Dodgers will decide he can’t hack it and trade him and IDJ for (insert reliever having okay season on bad team here)

by EMDarrow on Mar 28, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep, can see that happening too

alas.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure why anyone would think Elbert had an inside track

2010 was a waste plus he walked away.

I would not be surprised if the club wants to see how he handles himself in Abq. and if he can be consistent. It won’t be a question of hits or runs in AAA, it will be his command and ability to pitch on back to back days.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 28, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean other then all the reports

that he was their first choice, but they where waiting on Cormiers decision on whether or not to accept the assignment?

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by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

There were no reports

did anyone have anyone on the record.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 28, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cormier was on the record that he was asked to accept a minor league assignment.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Dodgers don’t feel he’s ready this year, when will he ever be ready? He’s 25, he suffers from confidence issues, and has an history of arm problems. He’s as good as he’ll ever be, and you pick Lance Cormier over him. Well uh… what exactly are their plans for him?

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you think he’s as good as he’ll ever be? I don’t agree with this…

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I don’t think he’ll get any better at freaking Albuquerque, aka Pitcher’s hell. Maybe Elbert can improve from what he is now, but the only way I can see that if he’s pitching in ML games, and helped by the ML coaches. Pitching in Albuquerque usually doesn’t help your chances.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Elbert did fine there in 2009.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Elbert spent most of the year at AA. He did finish up at AAA, and had good stats at ABQ, but I don’t think its a coincidence that the longer you stay in Albuquerque, the worst you pitch.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that is true at all. All they are looking for out of Elbert is better command. If he shows that, he’ll get a chance to get called up.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. I also see some irony to the fact that he was passed over in favor of Lance Effing Cormier who walked more guys than he struck out last year (as well as notorious free pass enthusiast Mack IX). Do they think that, at 31, Cormier has finally figured out command?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they are stockpiling arms in light of injuries. Elbert had options, Cormier had ultimatums.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Basically this comes down to keeping a guy with 34 walks and 30 strikeouts in the majors, versus a guy with 37 walks and 45 strikeouts (almost all) in the minors. Hard to get worked up either way, though we all like Elbert’s upside.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m okay with this in principle, but in addition to Elbert, I think the Dodgers have several arms that I would prefer to Cormier — Link, Schlichting, even Troncoso — that didn’t make ultimatums.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is this ultimatum thing a sticking point?

It’s the end of spring training, not the middle of the season. They said, “Take a minor league assignment.” He said, “Mmm…No. Also, my contract says I can go look elsewhere starting Sunday.”

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its the sticking point

because thats why he made the roster over Elbert.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just find it to be artificial and shortsighted.

now if this were the middle of the season, and he pulled a Sherrill…

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why though?

Both Cormier and Sherrill chose to exercise rights afforded to them by their relative statuses, contracts, and service times.

There’s nothing wrong with it either way; both sides knew what they were getting into when the contracts were signed.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that the contracts are structured that way to protect the player, and I agree with that.

I guess I find the Sherrill instance to be more worthy of aggravation because his performance was hurting the team and he likely could have benefited from some time working on his stuff (and before you start up, Gary, I know he was used incorrectly…when he was used as a LOOGY instead of a setup guy, things got better) in the minor leagues.

But yeah, the contracts work this way and it’s to gain leverage in a negotiation. The Dodgers, for their part with Sherrill, could have given him the big GFY, but they didn’t. So clearly it wasn’t worth it to them.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

But the Dodgers were also like, “…and, George, we’re not gonna pay you.” I wonder if the Dodgers had made a commitment to Sherrill by paying him his major league contract if he would have gone to the minors to work things out. Maybe not; who wants to go to the minors? But at least it would have indicated that the team was his partner in trying to work it out.

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by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but I think that non-payment thing is in place to protect the team. Ohhh contracts

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it is. I’m not saying that the Dodgers didn’t have the right to do exaclty what they did. And maybe they should have done exaclty what they did. All I mean is this: if the best solution for all parties is to get Sherrill to go to the minors and work things out, then the contracts were written in such a way that, by sticking to those contracts, the best solution was not possible. There was no way Sherrill would go to the minors and give up millions, even if he thought that going to the minors would help him work things out.

If that is true, then at that point, there must be a way to look past the language of the contracts and work something else out.

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know me so well.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the issue most of us have is that the Dodgers are the ones being shortsighted here. Elbert potentially can have a long career with the Dodgers spanning years. I feel they’re mucking it up because they caved into Lance Comier’s demands, who is just not very good at all.

The issue is with management not telling a crappy player to fuck off. Not with Cormier excising his contract.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How is keeping Cormier

Preventing Elbert from having a long career with the Dodgers?

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean other then keeping Elbert off the team?

Nothing at all of course

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately at this point, Elbert is a minor league pitcher with options. Being off the team for a month or two is not going to get in the way of his MLB career (if he has one).

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

But this is one of those things that if it actually does derail Elbert to the point where he doesn’t have a major league career, then fuck him because he wouldn’t be worth a shit to begin with.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

If you think his starting this season in the minors is completely derailing his career, then he was never going to have much of a career.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I think fucking around with a player just because he has options, than yeah. Maybe he wasn’t worth much to begin with. But I would like to find out if he actually do it instead of labeling him such.

Its wasting an asset because you refuse to allow him a chance. Its like allowing food to spoil in your fridge because you ate out all week. Eventually you have to use your own ingredients at home and cook your own meals because eating out all the time is expensive, even if you go dumpster diving.

Okay, I hacked up that meataphor good enough.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh I guess

Maybe its just because I half expect Ned to find a way to trade him for Dotel at any second now.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

he has things to work on now, and will be a MLB reliever at some point.

Since when is 25 the make or break age for middle relievers?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

25 maybe the make or break age for players in general though. Sure, you can succeed if you’re older than most players are when they break in, but it doesn’t help your chances.

You’re 25, you’re facing other 25 year olds who already been playing in the ML for 2 to 3 years. They’re likely playing at a much higher level than you initially because they’re seeing better competition than you’re accustomed to.

Its Elbert’s fault for not being good enough to reach and stay in the majors in previous years. its the Dodgers fault this time for not giving him a chance to.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Elbert isn’t competing against only 25 year olds, nor only 25 year olds in MLB. We’re not wondering if he’s going to be a superstar, we’re wondering if he’s going to have a major league career with the Dodgers. The answer to that question, unless there is an injury concern later, is unequivocably ‘YES’.

It’s nether of their faults as no harm has been done to either party.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not angry with Cormier

I’m irritated with Ned.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was my point too. I’m more upset at Ned for responding to the threats of a bad journeyman than said bad journeyman himself.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

But…his threat was essentially meaningless? That’s my point. I really don’t think Ned is afraid of the big, bad, NRI.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

How is his threat meaningless?

They asked him to go down, and then he said no I won’t, and ned caved. Thats the opposite of meaningless,.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ned Cave and the Bad Seed?

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because I disagree with the use of the word “caved”. He’s an NRI, which is like by definition not someone who is absolutely a lock to make the team.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

This argument is going nowhere.

The Dodgers wanted to keep Elbert over Cormier, and told Cormier so. Cormier informed the team that he would not accept a minor league assignment.

“The ball is in their court,” per Cormier.

Well, then the Dodgers decided that having Cormier and Elbert in the organization was better than having just Elbert. It really is that simple.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and the trade-off for keeping Elbert and Cormier was that Cormier would be on the Dodgers and Elbert wouldn’t. At least for the time being.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

But since pitchers get hurt/suck all the time, we’re talking about being Elbertless for what, three weeks?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

With the alternative being Cormier, I’d hope less. But if the decision is the wrong decision, then I’d rather the team have its best bullpen the entire time. Or at least, I don’t think Lance Cormier is sufficiently talented to let you make decisions that you feel are not in the best interests of the major league team.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The thing is you really can’t let anyone who’s capable of pitching in the bigs go away, you need them eventually.

Right now the Dodgers have 19 pitchers on the 40 man, and a couple of them have no business at all pitching in the bigs so you really only have 17 pitchers available.

In the last five years what do you think is the least amount of pitchers the Dodgers have used?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

17?!

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

22.

You really do need every arm you can possibly get.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

And before anyone says “that’s because Ned brings in crappy pitchers that get DFAed in three weeks” the 2003 Dodgers used 19 pitchers.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The key is whether or not Mark Loretta counts :)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t we say the same thing with James McDonald last year? Shit happens, Dodgers release/trade said player, he might work out somewhere else because said team decided to just let him play.

That’s all I want, just let Elbert pitch. If he sucks, than fine, send his ass back down.

by Tripon on Mar 28, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

You act like Elbert has never been in the big leagues before.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's going to be longer IMO

because Elbert was a candidate to go down once Padilla came back anyway.

But yeah, someone else could get hurt in the interim or soon enough anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

McDougal

might not last long at all

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

The thing that is being ignored here

is that this conversation between GM and NRI happens a hundred times every spring. It just usually happens in private and the only news of it that we get is “NRI A sent to minors camp” or “NRI A makes team”.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are just stockpiling arms and didn’t want to lose one. If he sucks or gets hurt, he will be gone. If he does well and/or someone else gets hurt, they have him there at the back of the ’pen.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not contesting that

I was referring to the ultimatum point.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

and even still

the Dodgers could be like, “Cool, have fun” but clearly something happened where they looked around and said “We would rather have you in our bullpen than doing work for someone else”

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they care at all if Lance Cormier is playing for someone else. I think they looked at him, looked at the other options, looked back at him, and shrugged.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, ambivalence!

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m confused what you are contesting then? If he didn’t make the team he would probably go find work with someone else.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, first of all, I could have (and in fact, did) read your point about stockpiling arms higher in the thread. If I had disagreed with that, I would like to think I would have said so.

Let me come at this from another direction, that was more succinctly stated by Eric above, and made me realize how I was unclear: Cormier didn’t make an ultimatum so much as he said “Nope, that’s not what I’m here to do. It’s in my contract that I don’t have to take a minor league contract and if you don’t tender me a major league contract, I’m gone…per my contract.”

So the ultimatum point has no bearing. His inclusion in the ’pen has everything to do with stockpiling arms that are reliable and more or less unable to go down to the minors — in that I agree with you.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

If “Bob Cormier” and “Unsafe at Any Speed” don’t stick, we could always call him…

The Born Ultimatum

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

We think that it’s better to have Cormier and Elbert instead of just Elbert.

Starting Tim Redding despite our “pitching depth” should justify this, but Cormier is really really bad.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

they figured out that he can probably do what he has done in the past and be at the back the end of the bullpen.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 28, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

They didn't think he was ready now

or he had an option.

There are no absolutes here, and if Reg is correct and if these guys already are mentally strong, he should be able to go past this and work hard in AAA to show that one, he can be more consistent and two, he is no quitter.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not guaranteed to be mentally strong, just if he isn’t he’s not gonna be useful anyway.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

okay

don’t want to put words in your mouth

by bhsportsguy on Mar 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

How in the world did this happen? I had not really heard word one about Cormier until the last couple of days. Now he is in the bullpen?

by OB12 on Mar 28, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know what to think....

Scott said he wasn’t worried yesterday, because it was out of his hands. I think he’ll be fine, his head is back in it now, but he’ll kick himself about that outing on Saturday, I think if he had a shutout inning, he would have made the roster.

by ElbertFan on Mar 28, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Overall he had a positive spring training. At least he’s back on the radar. Should be the first non-Redding pitcher recalled when the inevitable spot opens up.

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they just want to see some more consistency in the command and figure they might as well have another arm (Cormier) around. If someone else gets injured then it will be nice to have both of them.

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

none is this is surprising Dodgers Opening Day Roster SOP

by delias man on Mar 28, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

DFA time

for TWO guys this week. One is obvious (Lindsey), the other is a huge mystery. I would just cut Gibbons, to be honest.

by silverwidow on Mar 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

They could cut Gimenez and use Ellis and Rod.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer Luis Vasquez.

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read an article by Gurick on the at bat app this morning

and it said it’s likely Ellis is going to stay down cos he has options. Rod is starting on the DL though…

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did I miss something? Does this say Rod is starting on the DL? Did Barajas get injured? I knew about Navarro… Barajas?

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, it’s Navarro. My mind is wiggly from all the reading I’ve been doing. My bad. :)

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say. I mean, I wish Barajas wasn’t our starting catcher, but not in that way.

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think its the sweet tea

Your mind is slipping away. Soon you’ll think the world ends west of St. Louis and preaching about the South shall rise again.

by EMDarrow on Mar 28, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean your good friend Navarro, of course.

by silverwidow on Mar 28, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh

the joke, it just keeps happening over and over again

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok

Gurick says there are strong indications that IDJ and Miles will join Gamer as the extra infielders. Apparently MacDougal hasn’t been told whether or not he’s made the club.

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m honestly disappointed that we’re taking Miles over Castro.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't Miles hit a little better though?

and Castro’s fielding isn’t as good as it has been? I don’t know, I guess it’s a Hobson’s choice…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 28, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet it has more to do with the

chuckles about how bad Castro is rather how mediocre Miles is.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 28, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

No they’re both really bad. It’s just that Castro is historically and uniquely bad and it’s fascinating to me.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe a minor league trade? Say, Luis Vasquez, for someone similar who they don’t have to keep on the 40-man?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

WAY too soon to give up on that fastball.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I finally take time to update the payroll worksheet and sidebar, including Elbert, and the Cormier news happens. D’oh.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

The Cormier News

sounds like a 1940s film noir.

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am assuming we have nicknamed Cormier "Bob Cormier"

Because we all throw up as soon as his name is mentioned.

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m still hoping for “unsafe at any speed” to catch on.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that the Corvair? I could be wrong.

Anyway, Cormier does represent the Nadir of our pitching staff. (If you can make the same joke, so can I!)

Bob Cormier taking it:

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Corvair, Cormier. Let’s call the whole thing off.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Stand By Me!

I was thinking of Robert Cormier, author of The Chocolate War, and getting confused.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

How could you forget the Bossman from KLAM in Portland?

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hunting enthusiast Luke Scott has two home runs and seven RBI today after two innings against the Tigers.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Cormier making the team:

So, I think we should keep in mind that this is still just a report…..

by ElbertFan on Mar 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

/look at poster’s name
/remembers content of previous comment in this thread by said poster

Oh?

"John Ely? I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't know who that is. Who is John Ely?"

by Maddz on Mar 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not saying I know anything on said topic

haven’t talked to him since yesterday, just saying, it hasn’t been confirmed yet.

by ElbertFan on Mar 28, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know it's almost Opening Day when:

Lance Cormier and Disneyland are the topics of discussion.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

If Lance Cormier were a ride at Disneyland, he’d be _______.

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Small World. Decent ERA, but the underlying numbers are awful.

by UCLADodger32 on Mar 28, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

The teacups, because he makes me nauseous.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cars Land

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice callback.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Captain EO. Somebody, years ago, thought it was good idea to invest in

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 28, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hooooter....

We are heeeere to save the wooorld.

Garbage.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Time Crews seems to think Disneyland rides should all be catered only to him. Kids love eo, and I loved seeing it again after so many years.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The jungle cruise

at first you assume it’s a joke, but as time passes, you realize you realize it’s all too familiar.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

right right?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers traded Elbert’s one head for two (Lance’s and Elbert’s)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Lance Cormier is the Dodgers’ glass of warm milk.

On a related note, who the hell has ever had warm milk? I sure haven’t.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

As an infant, maybe? Surely never as a sedative. There are far more interesting things that can put me to sleep.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is very good. Why am I on this ride again? I already know how it goes.

by kinbote on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I swear they used to change up the jokes more

now every time I go its the same schtick

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Mar 28, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best Jungle Cruise joke I ever heard was…. when the hippo charges, the cruise operator pulls the plastic gun and fires it at the hippo. The hippo goes back, the operator turns to the boat and says, “Welcome to L.A.”

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice one

same spot, operator fires gun into the air “Got those two in the trees”

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Enchanted Tiki room because you can’t believe that people would pay to spend their time watching that performance

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I, for one, love the Enchanted Tiki Room. It’s a good place to take a nap.

by Bob Timmermann on Mar 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also a solid place to enjoy a dole whip.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought the Enchanted Tiki Room was DFA’d a couple of years ago.

The reason I cannot be nice to people is because I am an asshole

by Humma Kavula on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Disneyland asked the Tiki Room to accept a demotion to Euro Disneyland but Tiki refused.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me keep performing or we’re making Tres Companeros Dos

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trying to stay on topic here and mix in a quick little Dodgers question. Is DeJesus or Carroll going to be the opening day second baseman? Also, which former Dodger player would be most likely to dress up as Goofy at Disneyland?

by Xeifrank on Mar 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

IDJ

Rudy Law. Dude is a clown.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I were a betting man (and I am!), I’d pick DeJesus as the opening day second baseman.

Clearly Loney on the second question.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

too soon? referring to Loney as a"former" Dodger.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh you said “former.” Hmmmm…Jay Johnstone?

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Johnstone is solid

Reuss also works

by Hollywood Joe on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Johnstone was at Angels Fan Fest yesterday, and showed up with copies of his own book to sell. Ha!

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

These things change fast

Weren’t you saying last week it would definitely be Carroll?

by BFDC on Mar 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought, but it sounds like Carroll’s finger is still a little jacked and Don likes having JC as his safety valve bench guy rather than everyday gamer.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goofy — Jay Johnstone, Roger McDowell, Mickey Hatcher

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Mar 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Elbert, Lance, Don and Uncle Ned

Reading the info over the weekend and Lance refusing demotion to ALBQ, wonder if Don who has supported Elbert over the winter and into Spring, indeed did want Elbert and would have gone wtih him accepting the loss of Cormier, but Ned over ruled and did this by leaking to Rosenthal.

by wineracquet on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Fantasy trade. Roto 6x6

H S K ERA WHIP QS

I need help on this decision. I got offered Brian Matusz for Kevin Gregg.

Currently my other starters are Cliff Lee, Kershaw, Liriano, Arroyo, Brett Myers and Dickey.

Relievers are, Brian Wilson, Cordero, Capps, Soriano, Guerrier, Gregerson, Benoit,

Brian Matusz finished really strong last season. I don’t really like Brett Myers much so might end up dropping him.

What do you think?

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Capps will be splitting closer duties with Nathan

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I saw a tweet yesterday that Nathan was named the closer on the Twins.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

just saw on ESPN that they were going to split until they feel good about Nathan

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

good thing about this fantasy is i can still get holds with Capps.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless there’s four teams in the league you have enough closers and Matusz has good upside.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea

Yea I like the upside. Seems like he could contribute more and Gregg will only really be beneficial with a lead and not sure how many games the Orioles will have a lead.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weird as it is, closers on bad teams get as much opportunities as closers on good ones.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Mar 28, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea..true..all those close ball games.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Mar 28, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp

.278 / .335 / .475
UZR 2011 in CF – 0.0

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 28, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

.293/.348/.501
34 homeruns 32 steals

by Jason007 on Mar 28, 2011 9:49 PM PDT reply actions  

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