Fractured Thoughts
We have with us today, two of True Blue's most disturbed writers, Phil Gurnee and Meercatjohn. With the 2011 season now upon us, they will pointlessly debate the virtues of the 2011 team. A fractured mind is a terrible thing to waste so lets get to it.
Moderator - Phil, what do you like about this team?
Phil - Most everyone is jumping on the rotation but I'm going to go off the board. The best thing about this team is Hector Gimenez, he's a switch hitting Venezuelan catcher with power and patience who broke out in AA last year at the tender age of 27, and is primed to be the Dodger catcher of the future. By 2013 no one will care about the switch hitting Dominican with power and patience who got away.
Meercatjon - you are an idiot
Phil - how can you not see the parallels between Victor Martinez and Hector Gimenez. They are like Twins
Meercatjohn - Twins in the way that the Gov and Danny Devito were twins with Hector playing the part of Devito.
Phil - just saying, in the history of major league baseball, Venezuela has produced three switch hitting catchers. Victor Martinez, Dionar Navarro, and the infamous Jose Lobaton. Clearly Hector is among select company, and within time will take his spot among them as one of the three best switch hitting Venezuelan catchers of all time.
Meercatjohn - I'm wasting my time here. I'll stick with my initial meme, you are an idiot
Moderator - let us move on, what else do you like
Phil - the rotation is killer, this will be the best rotation in California among the teams in the NL who are not defending champions. As Clayton showed last night we have the best young left hander in the game West of the Rockies. Billingsley will not only earn his contract, he will out point Lincecum this year in Cy Young voting. Kuroda is the best Japanese pitcher in the United States, and Ted Lilly will lead the league in home runs allowed.
Meercatjohn - how is leading the league in home runs a positive? These parameters you choose are pathetic. West of the Rockies indeed. No question the rotation is the strong suit of this team, but it is not infallible. You might be able to count on Kershaw and Billingsley but Kuroda and Lilly are old and destined for disaster. Garland / Padilla have already hit the DL , and at some point this year they will be joined by the Methuselahs.
Phil - You are an idiot, Kuroda and Lilly are going to make 60 quality starts between them.
Phil - When the starters finish up their minimum of six innings of good work then the loaded bullpen goes to work. Jansen, Guerrier, Kuo, and Broxton. No one wants to face these guys.
Meercatjohn - please you have a converted catcher who can only throw a fastball and has no clue where it is going, an overworked Twin who will be a disaster in the NL, a left hander with an arm that may be golden but will probably melt down, and finally the biggest choke artist to ever take the hill of the Ravine in the 9th inning. This team is going to need protection of one run games and Big Boy Broxton will not be up to the task. I noticed you only mentioned these four and didn't even bother to mention the jokes of MacDougal or Cormier.
Phil - that is just looking for bad news. Jansen may not have any more control then Marmol does but who cares, ain't no one getting comfortable in the box with his stuff coming at you. He has the greatest K rate in the history of the Dodgers for a reason. Broxton has had one bad 1/2 season in his whole career. Sure it came last year, but he'll be okay, if not Kuo will do what he has always done. DOMINATE. I have nothing good to say about Cormier, he'll be gone as soon as Padilla is ready. MacDougal may not be any good or have any more control then Jansen but he's fun to watch pitch and you need that for those laughers we will be winning 12 -6.
Phil - at 1st base we have the slick fielding Loney, who saves as many runs as Adam Dunn drives in. Even Logan White feels Loney is the better player.
Meercatjohn - Logan White is an idiot. Everyone here knows Loney blows, how long can you hold out hope that he "becomes" something he is not?
Phil - I keep holding out hope you will learn to write and not be a drag on this site so hopeless hope is my game.
Phil - we upgraded big time at 2nd base with Uribe, power galore, pizazz, and leadership. Even you must be happy to see Uribe instead of Denothing or Theriot?
Meercatjohn - sure big upgrade, but how many games will he get at 2nd with old man Blake manning 3rd? Plus it is only an upgrade because of what they had before. The man is a Dominican hole to an offense with his all or nothing approach.
Phil - at SS we have the greatest Los Angeles SS of all time, and waiting in the weeds is the future greatest Los Angeles SS of all time.
Meercatjohn - Rafy rocks when healthy, he won't be. If Dee Gordon has a higher WAR then Jose Offerman as a member of the Dodgers I'll be one shocked Meerkat.
Phil - Casey Blake has become a defensive whiz
Meercatjohn - right, and you wonder why UZR puzzles people
Phil - you can't have anything negative to say about Andre and Matt?
Meercatjohn - you mean the streaky guy who can't wait to get out of here? Or the prima donna patrolling CF, who thinks he's so gifted he can coast through his career? They are good, but are they great? because they will need to be great for this team to even smell 81 wins given the rest of the team you have been throwing at me.
Phil - they are great all right. Kemp is going to be in the MVP hunt, didn't you witness his three walks on opening day. With that patience, power, and speed, he'll be our version of Willie Mays.
Meercatjohn - he was walked three times because James Loney bats behind him. At least with Kemp if you make a mistake he will make you pay, with Loney he might hit a hard ground-ball to 2nd instead of a feeble one.
Phil - what an imbecilic comment
Phil - this is a solid team, great rotation, great bullpen, two great outfielders, two switch hitting Venezuelan catchers along with a Golden Rod, and a bunch of gritty players who won't fold in crunch time. If you can't get behind a team like this then you are just a negative Nelly.
Meercatjohn - other then four key players this is an old team , and those four key players will not be enough to steer this team in to the postseason. If they win 84 games I'll be impressed.
Moderator - this has been a bundle of fun, now back to your cages
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There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Second and third, one out for the Astros. Halladay at 92 pitches. Bill Hall up.
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Bill Hall gets the Astros their first RBI of the season with a grounder to second. Hunter Pence goes to third, two out. Halladay at 98 pitches now.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Chris Johnson out. Astros lead 1-0 heading to bottom sixth. Halladay over 100 pitches and due up second.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for mentioning Twins right at the beggining..
I cant think of Twins without thinking of KTLA always showing that movie and running ads with that damned jingle that is forever stuck in my head
Because we’re brothers, identical twins as you can see. Why watch another movie, when you can see two of me?"
I can’t even finish reading the post without that in my head
BTW
Most sites say that you have avoid any strenuous exercise for at least 4 weeks after an appendectomy.
How about baseball?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec’d!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I had an appendectomy when I was 17. I was laid up for like 3 weeks. I know they have trainers and pretty advanced therapy treatments, but I have to imagine swinging a bat (rotating torso) will be difficult for a while without a lot of painkillers.
I hope Dr. Hibbert is on the case. Him and his trusty pocket knife can get it done
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
What about Dr. Nick Riviera?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Didnt he die in the movie? Was that canon?
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
I think so but they'll probably find a way to re animate him (if they haven't already)
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4 months if it was done in the Dominican Republic
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 1, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. None of this.


Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 1, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching these Phillies fans with their chattering teeth makes me all the more glad that I am on the Left coast
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Could be worse
could be England where the teeth fly out of their mouths
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
WTF? In what world does Brett Myers pitch deeper into a game than Roy Halladay?!? To paraphrase the Fantastic Mr Fox “how did this happen?!? how is he doing this?!? I feel like Im losing my mind!”
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
While Phillies fans are saying
you wanna cuss with me you little cuss?
by StolenMonkey86 on Apr 1, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
“Don’t point and cuss at me!”
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
i assume every non-Phillie fan watching ESPN is going
“where’s my bandit hat?”
by Josie Becker on Apr 1, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Humerto Quintero just Benito Santiago’d Victorino (thats a lot of names in one sentence!). Just an absolutely perfect throw.
yup. Ball could not have been placed any better.
by UCLADodger32 on Apr 1, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Myers’s line thus far: 6IP, 2H, 1BB. 58 pitches, 31 for strikes. Everything else zeroes.
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You’ll take it. The IP with no runs is good for the ERA. Zero Ks not so good but your other pitchers will make up for it.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
You should trade Happ as soon as possible to an owner who remembers his Phillie days.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Found this to be a solid look at going to a Dodger game from a Santa Barbara fan. Detailed and useful to those who don’t go to many games and even to those who do.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Cool. I'll have to check but I think my stepdad (in SB) knows that guy.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So what happened at the Laker game last night? Terry shoved Blake, then Barnes shoved a coach, and then fights in the stands?
and Shannon Brown reacted to another hard foul with some shoving of his own.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 1, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i have essentials and a bag in the car
But alas, my friend pulled a “girl’s night out” card following her “break-up-but we’re gonna give it another go” situation earlier this week.
after Thames it gets very dicey
Ellis – 0
Gimenez – 0
DeJesus – 0
Miles –
Paul -
So what was your point:)
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
So their bench still has more homeruns then ours. That’s funny.
by Michael White on Apr 1, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably not I knew the 0’s for sure but MIles/Paul cant have to many but probably enough to put them over.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Miles -16
Paul – 1
Dodgers bench is 14 ahead!
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 1, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Miles has 16, Paul has 1
Brian Schneider leads their bench with 64 HR.
I don’t know its just funny to me how when you get down to it most teams benches are filled with similar players so the angst about who fills it could be misplaced.
The Bourn Supremacy? Two-run triple and he stands on third with one out.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The Pirates have something that kinda looks like a legitimate major league lineup on opening day. When was the last time that happened?
@andrewngrant
Roberto Clemente was probably still alive
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 1, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
God, Garrett Jones. I remember him totally taking the piss out of the Dodgers a year ago. I temporarily set aside my irrational hatred of Carlos Ruiz for an irrational hatred of Garrett Jones.
He is batting 7th today. Watch out, Cubs.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Garrett Jones in the first two games last year: 3-for-9 with a walk, 3 HR, 4 R, 6 RBI.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
For that one brief moment, Garrett Jones was more like Garrett Owns.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Still can’t get over the name Darwin Barney.
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How does he look? Pitchers with few hits, few walks, and no strikeouts remind me of a certain pitcher I know who leans away when taking pictures with female fans.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Myers is done now. 7IP, 3H, 3BB, 2 runs (1 earned), 0K.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't doubt that this fan went through this
@venuegurus: Dodger Stadium: Not a Major League Fan Experience http://ow.ly/4rpDH
But unless I am wrong, the Dodgers contract out their concessions and all the staffing is under that vendor’s control.
I have said it before, as much as people talk about the TV contract, its the concessions contract, I would like to see changed or at least improved.
For Opening Day, I would make sure that, all the stands are fully staffed, hire extra security and make their presence known, and make sure the parking lots are monitored well after the game is over.
Sure, but shouldn’t they contract it out to someone who can do a better job?
I got there early, so my experience was somewhat different, and on the Loge level, the fans are not as rowdy. But I agree that they could do a better job of managing fan behavior. Although where I sat, there were a number of jackass Giants fans and the Dodgers fans were better.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I'm curious
What’s so bad about concessions?
I ask this as a guy who usually eats before the game, so I don’t have strong opinions one way or the other.
by Michael White on Apr 1, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure, other than the lines being somewhat long. The author may also be referring to how the newer stadiums have wide concourses, so food lines and people walking around don’t clash as much as they do at DS.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I sit in the loge on the left field side. Not all that far from our seats is an “express” station. Grilled super dogs and the only place on the loge to get garlic fries and very, very rarely any lines. Near there is a premium beer station which also rarely has lines and I can get my Gordon Biersch Marzen.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that the point of the Field level modification several years ago? The Loge was supposed to be next but all capital expenditures were put on hold.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
Reserved Level
Gets pretty crowded, and no real improvements on the Top Deck
The Concourses are still pretty crowded on the Field Level
They haven’t figured out that you should have one person getting food and one person taking orders so you order something, they walk to go get it, order something, walk to go get it, etc.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
BS. Hell, just having one guy whose only job was beer pouring would make the line move twice as fast.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster Olney Thinks that the dodgers don't have much in the minors.
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors
From behind the espn pay wall.
Well duh
The rosters haven’t even been set yet. There’s nobody there yet.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 1, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s a Dodger fan though. I think it’s natural to oversell sometimes to try and seem impartial.
Like Herbstreet when discussing Ohio State.
by Michael White on Apr 1, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Heard this: Buster Olney is not all that clued in to minor league prospects
compared to a Sickels or Law or someone. So… meh.
(Without being able to read all of that article, I should add.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Buster is a Dodger fan.
From his Blog..
“He grew up in central Vermont collecting baseball cards and listening to Red Sox, Expos, Phillies and Pirates radio broadcasts, and was a rabid fan of the Los Angeles Dodgers.”
In fairness
Olney quoted a “respected executive” from early in the spring saying after Kemp, Ethier and Kershaw, they don’t “have much behind them.” Not Olney’s opinion and not a strong indictment of the farm system.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Old acquaintance alert!
Danys Baez pitching for Phillies. Hee hee!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I forgot Brandon Lyon was the Astros closer. God, he sucks.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
MLB.TV news
http://view.ed4.net/v/PI0QOB/L9732F/06VQAVO/77R5TU/MAILACTION=1&FORMAT=H?partnerId=ed-4583490-194194192
This is if anybody is interested.
Neil Walker of the Pirates hits an Opening Day Grand Slam
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Pirates lead Cubs 4-2
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And Susan Yeager wins a 2-night stay at any Wyndham hotel!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Only other Pirate Opening Day Grand Slam was Clemente!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow! Dempster just gave up a Grand Slam to Neil Walker of the Pirates.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
A year ago at this time Neil Walker appeared to be a failed number one pick, they moved him to 2nd and now he’s got a bright future.
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
So trading for Andy LaRoche was worth it!
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Lyon is another closer waiting to lose his job
Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown
I’d agree, but the only guy in that pen I even recognize is Nelson Figueroa.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he was the #5 starter.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Wow. Then Lyon is the only name I recognize in that pen.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Nelson Figueroa is a starter.
Brandeis represent!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
In play no out?! Fuck you RUIZ!!!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
My closers:
Axford, Lyon, Bailey and Meyers.
What the fuck, man?
Least I traded Mo in one league with CJ Wilson to get Kershaw. Tha tworked otu fine.
I drafted one, took the rest of my relievers with three of my last four picks and now I have four guys that can get saves just from waivers.
Fantasy baseball is kinda dumb.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Apr 1, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know 3rd base coaches could be cautious.
by StolenMonkey86 on Apr 1, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta use that oven for something. my company delivered all those ovens to the LA stores about 3 years ago. the drivers would fight over going to them because all the stores would hook them up with a sandwich for bringing it in..
John Mayberry can win it for the Phillies.
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Mayberry is totally gonna walk here.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I ain't lyin' when I say that Brandon should make any Dodger fan appreciate Broxton.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Lyon, is what I meant to type, but either way a lame, lame pun and who cares.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
In play, runs.
Good god, the Astros suck.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Lyon can’t throw ball for shit right now, why no bullpen? this is fuckin pathetic.
Wow now I watch walk off win for Phillies, this just ruined my day.
theyre 8th inning guy is pretty good, i think.
by UCLADodger32 on Apr 1, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t tempt fate or they will Jose Lima our team.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 1, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions

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