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4/18/11 Minor League Report - Dodger Organizations Sweep the Day

I was at the Dodger game last night to celebrate Jerry Sand's major league debut, so this minor league report will be an abbreviated version.

Minor League Player of the DayCorey Smith - 4 for 4, 1 2B, 3 RBI's.  Smith took over at 1st base for the Isotopes for the injured John Lindsay, and didn't miss a beat in his Isotope debut with 4 hits.

AAA Corey Smith made this most of his Isotope debut by going 4 for 4 with 3 RBI's, and Jamie Hoffmann smacked his first homer of 2011 as Albuquerque topped the Oklahoma City RedHawks (Astros) 8 to 6.  Nobody else on offense did anything very special, although Trayvon Robinson did have a triple and pitcher Randy Keisler oddly had a pinch hit RBI double.  Starter Alberto Bastardo allowed 3 runs in 4 innings, and Jon Link picked up the win with 2 hitless innings of relief.  Travis Schlichting was again shaky out of the pen, allowing 2 homers in one inning of work.

AA – Rubby De La Rosa got off to a great start on Monday and was reportedly hitting 100 mph on the gun, but the game was really in the later innings as the Lookouts scored 10 runs after Rubby had left the game.  He still came away with victory, however, in Chattanooga's 10 - 7 win over the Huntsville Stars (Brewers).  Almost every hitter on the Lookouts contributed as 8 different Chattanooga players picked up at least 1 hit.  Center fielder Brad Coon went 4 for 5 with 2 SB's, and Jaime Pedroza also swiped two bags to go along with a couple of hits.  Scott Van Slyke increased his average to .292 with 2 doubles in 4 at bats.

HiA Allen Webster shook off a rough outing in his last appearance to pitch 7 strong innings in the Quakes 4 to 2 win over the Lake Elsinore Storm (Padres).  Webster struck out six and gave up just 2 runs (1 earned) on 5 hits and a walk.  Jake Lemmerman had a big game at the plate, going 3 for 5 with two doubles, while Austin Gallagher went 2 for 4 with an RBI.

LoAZach Lee had another outstanding performance on the mound as he led the Loons to a 9 - 4 victory over the South Bend Silver Hawks (Dbacks).  Lee stuck out 9 batters in 5 innings of work, and was hitting 94 according to Loons announcer Brad Golder.  He also allowed just 1 run on 5 hits, although he did walk 3.  The big hit on offense came from Nick Akins, who crushed a grand slam and ended the day with 5 RBI's.  Blake Dean also had a good day with 3 hits, while Jonathan Garcia went 1 for 5 with a double.  

Albuquerque Isotopes Box Score (AAA)

Chattanooga Lookouts Box Score (AA)

Rancho Cucamonga Quakes Box Score (HiA)

Great Lakes Loons Box Score (LoA)

http://firstinning.com/daily/la

 



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@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rubby, Lee, Webster

all pitched well last night. I think we have one of the stronger organizations in terms of solid starting pitching prospects.

by wonderphenom on Apr 19, 2011 7:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I told Phil last night joking

Corey Smith will be the player of the day and then said no, it will be Zach Lee

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Lee was great

but he allowed too many baserunners. had he only allowed the 5 hits and not walked anyone he probably would have gotten the nod, but for now he needs to improve that 1.50 WHIP!

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

great write up Brandon

also, great game last night! Did anyone hear Sands postgame interview? The interviewer mentioned his double, and Sands came back with something like, “Yeah, but I gave away my last two at bats, I still have adjustments to make.”

Like the attitude. JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I like how in the FanGraphs organizational update it was all negative.

by Chad Moriyama on Apr 19, 2011 7:41 AM PDT reply actions  

THROUGH TWO FUCKING STARTS WEBSTER GOT SHELLED AT HIGH-A

I DON’T LIKE WHAT I SEE ALREADY

by Chad Moriyama on Apr 19, 2011 7:41 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

In the frickin’ Cal League. F those guys.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The article was a paragraph of “these guys are doing good” “these guys are doing bad”. Not, these guys are doing bad, so they’ll never amount to anything.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean I should go find the article and read it instead of just reacting to Chad’s comment at face value?? Blasphemy! Heresy!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

What was “I don’t like what I see” supposed to infer?

by Chad Moriyama on Apr 19, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zach Lee is sick with it.

by Chad Moriyama on Apr 19, 2011 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Me likey Zac Lee

by keithc13 on Apr 19, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noticed a couple funny things in the 'topes box.

Is that Randy Kiesler, the pitcher, with a pinch hit double? I also noticed that Link made a relief performance.. Is he going back to the pen? I’m starting to think that Link is the more valuable of the Jo(h)n’s that came over in the Pierre trade. Im I correct with that statement? And.. Thank you Brandon.. the minor league recaps are awesome.

by darrelld on Apr 19, 2011 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah Kiesler did get a pinch hit RBI double

and on a night when i had more time i def would have mentioned that because it was pretty funny. i actually may go back and add a few things now. Link’s role is still undefined, but I personally like him better as a reliever/long man.

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

We missed you last night

I was going to email you and see if you wanted to go, I think we were all spread out at the game, definitely will go to a game soon.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was like the proud dad at graduation.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Where are your seats

My usual seats are Infield Reserve behind home plate but I sold them weeks ago, instead I splurged and bought some nice ones right behind home plate on the Loge level and went with Phil and HJ.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

in my package

I never have the same seats. I am generally anywhere between 137-143 Loge.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah def

I told my wife about being a proud dad and she just rolled her eyes

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope someone had the presence of mind

to take a pic.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want a pic of Phil in the press box with that chapeau, pounding away at a typewriter.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

in black and white!!! that would be a classic

Phil was jaunty in the cap

He didn’t quite wear it as well as Hogan, but much better than Chevy Chase

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Going with this look next time

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe

OTOH Link was DFAed at the end of spring and cleared waivers, which allowed him to be assigned to Albuquerque, so there’s that.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I/we didn't put two and two and two together yesterday morning

We knew Corey Smith was getting promoted to ABQ, but nobody asked who he was replacing!

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 7:58 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

luckily

he does not fit anymore. even TGJ does not fit, and he is here.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

All the better

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assumed he was taking over RF from Jon Link.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It just dawned on me

Phil might actually be proven right. Didnt he predict Loney as player of the week? Certainly was player of the game last night with that 2out rbi single and snaring that line drive.

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

POG

was so obviously Lilly last night.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

If Loney doesnt snag that liner, as Vin pointed out, its a tie game in the 9th with everyone calling for Broxton’s head

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

i almost woke up my sick nephew

cheering that catch

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was amazing

When McClouth hit that, my heart sank for a split second. Something like “AWWerrrYEAHH!!! LONEY!!”

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of the Dodgers hitters

Loney was clearly the MVP with a WPA of .181 (Lilly was .240.) Add in the defensive bonus, and he gets closer to Lilly, but Lilly was too dominant and was the pitcher. But sure, if Loney has a few more games like that this week….

by Michael White on Apr 19, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loney

caught the line drive in the 4th

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know

that catch saved possibly 2 runs. If Atl had those runs plus the 2 Brox gave up, tie game in the 9th

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh

I see. I guess so, it’s hard for me to sometimes tie together things like that because you never what would have happened if that catch isn’t made. But now I get what you are saying.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah its true

Cant say for certain how things woulda panned out. But it woulda been a little more worrisome going into the 9th

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the game is 4-2, Lilly gets pinch hit for in the 7th, we use Guerrier and Jansen, and Broxton probably omes in against entirely different hitters.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 19, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

but then again, maybe with only a two run lead instead of 4, Broxton pitches differently and gets a 123 inning.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Also a possibility. Joe Block was commenting on twitter how proven closers tend to struggle with a larger margin for error. Is this supported statistically?

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Block seems to pull some things out of the air quite a bit, like that, or Tony Gwynn is a good leadoff hitter, etc. However, I kind of like him so far on DodgerTalk.

Side note: two weeks ago at Dodger Stadium I was going to introduce myself to Joe, but before I had a chance he came up to me and said “hey, I read your work. Great site.” I was blown away.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah! That is awesome!

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Niiiice

I noticed that TBLA was reprinted in the Dodger pressbox’s “Daily Clips” (again) when I was there Friday. I guess maybe it’s regular now?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think so

It was there over the weekend too. I don’t think they go to the trouble to see who is going to be there that day before printing those clips, so perhaps we are a staple now.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they go to the trouble to see who is going to be there that day

exactly what I was thinking.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You kept yours for yourself, I hope.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got them one of the days…I think Saturday. There were like 5 posts; we killed a shitload of trees!

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

similar to Sunday, it was the starter who was the real reason they won.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are separate awards for hitter and pitcher

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The infusion of Sands and Loney picking up his game could really do wonders for this offense.

by OB12 on Apr 19, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jerry Sands

The tonic for what ails ya.

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

karim Garcia was 19 when he made his MLB debut.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I am not comparing them… I was curious his OPS+ while he was with Cleveland when I woke up this morning, and I was checking it out, I noticed that he debuted at 19.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the game

in San Francisco. I was at my sister’s house in San Diego. Very excited for the next wave of prospects.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carlos Perez loved it more.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did love that Kemp came to Jerry's defense

so animatedly last night. That was awesome to see him up on the steps yelling at Hudson.

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:13 AM PDT reply actions  

looked like he said

“Hey! Don’t do that shit to our boy!”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was sweet

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't read his lips

but I believe paraphrased Kemp said to Hudson, “Bring that shit to me, man!”

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

First game I've gone to at D.S last night

I have to agree with Phil, et al. The stadium was noticeably empty.

by Michael White on Apr 19, 2011 8:19 AM PDT reply actions  

They just limited how many fans could come in to keep it more like a minor league atmosphere to help Jerry ease into the bigs

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loved it. Cell phone service was perfect for once.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

how soon will we know

if Paul is claimed or not?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:24 AM PDT reply actions  

9 days at the latest.
Tomorrow at the soonest.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

more like spoiler

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to imagine that if a guy like Milledge can make it through unclaimed, then Paul probably will.

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure Lastings wasn’t claimed, but Paul never high fived a fan after a home run.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also hip hop albums: Lastings 1, Paul 0.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about

coaches they’ve gotten fired.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Moses

Too numerous to track :)

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

XP is why Grady was canned?!?!

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

that was Kent

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric's comment above

There was a quote last offseason from John Moses who was release from his Albuquerque coaching job that he got fired because XPaul didn’t progress as an OF.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

ugh. email from airline sales rep this morning
Sands reminds of jeff Hamilton white dude with great numbers in the minors……………

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

A-I-D-A. Tell that fucking cocksucker to get his attention back on his next fucking sale. Christ on a stick.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know who else was a white dude with great numbers in the minors? Jim Thome.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Andy La…
Billy Ash…
Dallas McP…

I’m ging back to work.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 19, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Trumbo!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Matt Holliday, and Jay Bruce, and Buster Posey and...

Anyway, yeah. Great analysis, rep.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 19, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair I can probably name more white dudes with great numbers in the minors that suck as opposed to ones that don’t.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

You probably can do it for all dudes too.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Indians.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lee

He has that “fuck you and the horse you rode in on” look here.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

“That dude is smug as hell” – Vincent Chase.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers will never sign him, they're punting pick to 2011

/JoeSheehan

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 19, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

How can they sign him?!? HOW?!?!?! (spitting up bile)

/PeterGammons(slightly parapharased)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna hold off on being smugger than Zach Lee on this issue until he see that his differed bonus isn’t counted against this years budget.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Lemmerman is full time at SS these days

did we ever find out if they moved him there as injury protection/recovery, or if they also don’t see him ever going back there and the experiment is over?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 19, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

i thought

he was a SS in college?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Duh, I'm thinking of Delmonico aren't I?

Never mind.

All those white dudes look alike!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 19, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is that the Dodgers have a good chance to draft Nick Delmonico, Tony Delmonico’s younger brother, who is a 3B/C prospect

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't be surprised if we picked him

if he was still avaliable in the 2nd round…not sure we’d want him at 17 or whatever we pick

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah Lemmerman has always been a shortstop

the concern was that he might not be good enough defensively to stick at SS and would be forced to 2B or 3B, but so far he seems to be holding his own at SS

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's what it was, they were trying him at 3rd at one point

but he’s doing well at SS. I was thinking of Delmonico. :)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 19, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i'm not sure what delmonico is doing defensively

i forgot to ask when i was at the game this past weekend. he was the DH at the game i was at I believe

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pundits/scouting reports were stating the concerns that Brandon mentions

but the Dodgers have played him only at SS in the minor league games so far.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

So hopefully

Fuck Dee Gordon?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 19, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

nah

I’d like to see Late Night at third, seeing how we have next to nothing there.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Notes

1. James Loney catch was nice but I didn’t see anything overly awesome about it. The ball was hit right at him, just high, and he’s tall enough to snag it.
2. While the crowd was small, they were enthusiastic, friendly, and generally sober. I’ve gone to three games so far this homestand and have found this to be the case for each game.
3. While the crowd was giving Sands a standing ovation for his 1st hit, IDJ was heard to exclaim WTF
4. The weather was perfect for Lilly, really thought Kemp got all of his long fly, if that wasn’t going out,nothing was last night.
5. Ted Lilly works slow with runners on base
6. I have no idea why Broxton was pitching with a 4 – 0 lead one day after he already pitched. Now with back to back appearances, no way he pitches tomorrow, hopefully we will have a five run lead so Donnie will feel comfortable using someone other then his closer in the 9th inning.
7. Guerrier is very impressive
8. If I didn’t know who Jason Heyward is, I would not have been impressed.
9. Physically Sands reminds me of Billinsley when he walks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

7. Guerrier is very impressive

I was worried about those bombs in spring, but he’s really turned it on when it counts. Great curveball.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

9. Physically Sands reminds me of Billinsley when he walks

Big ass and thighs?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

across Maddz's face,

a blushing smile grows.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Lilly

Was certainly helped by the cold and damp (who knew Frank Sinatra was singing about DS all those years ago)

but to his credit Ted also threw some curve balls that froze me sitting in the 3rd row of the loge

and I heartily agree on Guerrier, sitting directly behind home plate he loooked tough to hit

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I didn’t know who Jason Heyward is, I would not have been impressed

In 5 games at Dodger Stadium, 2 singles in 21 AB, with 3 walks and a HBP. And 8 strikeouts.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Dodger Stadium

can turn a lot of hitters into James Loney?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

funny
I deleted the same comment

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was a little surprised by the crowd’s enthusiasm for Sands. Maybe I underestimate the crowd at DS, but I didn’t think he’d get that reception.

by guy clinch on Apr 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was an LAT article on him just the other day.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize that. Makes more sense.

by guy clinch on Apr 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was a shitload of TBLA articles about him before the game:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pimped prospects get good receptions.

IDJ, OTOH, gets no reception.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very true. I just didn’t think he was pimped in media frequented by many DS guests.

by guy clinch on Apr 19, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger Stadium isn’t exactly filled with casual fans these days.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a fair number of families last night

not all of us were basement dwellers in fancy caps

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

There can be nerdlings.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone was talking about Sands around us, but I have to say it was not always flattering for the Dodgers. For some it was cool, Jerry Sands is playing, for others, it was mocking the Dodger lineup and Frank in particular that they had to bring up a rookie to play LF

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone was talking about Sands around us, but I have to say it was not always flattering for the Dodgers. For some it was cool, Jerry Sands is playing, for others, it was mocking the Dodger lineup and Frank in particular that they had to bring up a rookie to play LF

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

there was a fairy inebriated sports writer looking mf’er a row up for us who, if not heckling Sands, was kind of like, “so it’s come to this” and talking trash to the rest of the team. No bueno

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

breaking news:

idiots walk among us.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

this other homeboy had gun earrings. Guns! And he was with like 50 women any one of whom could have been his wife.

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

i like guys like this.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno if you could hear, but I called you out to the entire stadium after you refused to wave hi : P

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ignoring Josie

He gets a notch on his TBLA cool belt.

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

the thing is...

I would be a hypocrite. I do not like wave to my friend from across the stadium guy, so I could not do it. it was not personal.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

You don’t wave on principle? What’s the principle?

by berkowit28 on Apr 19, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rule 1: Don’t look like a jackass

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wearing a hat with ear flaps would seem to violate Rule 1

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you guys are nuts, you care too much what people you don’t know think of you. If I see a friend, I’m going to try to make contact. That’s more important than what a bunch of nobodies think about me. If the friend doesn’t see me after a few seconds of this, OK, give up, don’t be a jackass.

by berkowit28 on Apr 19, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh no it’s cool, I didn’t take it personally. I called you lame out of jest

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, to be fair… IDJ is not very good.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

better cuts under a band-aid
better swings at a park

Need I go on?

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

better hacks in Saw 4 ?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

better hacks at the LA times!

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

1. Didn’t see the Loney catch because some dumb ass family thought it was a good time to take pictures
2. The crowd was fantastic, very energetic and lively atmosphere
3. Sands looked like he was having the time of his life out there. He was first stepping to beach balls being hit let alone the play at the plate.
4. Kemp crushed that ball.
5. Lilly does be slow
6. Mattingly said after the game Broxton just needed to get the pitches in. All I know is that he was throwing 95 and giving up hits, then Rick Honeycutt came out and slapped him in the balls and he through 97 to get the last out.
7. Guerrier, rhymes with career!
8. Who?
9. That’s apt. He’s got a bit of a strut to his gait.

credit half my analysis to G, of course.

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

6 – true, whatever Honeycut said worked this time

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

we had zero beach balls in our area, did you have any?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

two started with us, the first one was immediately sent up to Loge, the other sort of bounced around in that way where you can hear people behind you saying “hit it over here, I want to hit it” and they’re like 40 years old and Matt Kemp is at the plate.

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

You two should have joined us, we were right behind home plate, 3rd row, with a whole empty row in front of us.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

They were probably avoiding you Phil.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but I would have thought HJ and Craig would outweigh having to sit near me.

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

nah it was really just the seats we had. Didn’t seem to make sense to climb up higher

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

they are snobs phil, don’t you get it!!

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

says that man who couldn’t just say hello on principle : p

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any chance Lee gets promoted to Rancho this season?

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on Apr 19, 2011 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Hope not; bad environment.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It depends, the north division is very pitching friendly minus one park. Just keep him away from Lancaster and High Desert.

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on Apr 19, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to do

when you play for Rancho Cuca…….

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cuc...........

CA-monga!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they follow the Kershaw/Rubby route then no. Will be curious which way they go

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

OTOH

Eovaldi went rookie ball, Cal League, AA. So who knows?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right Withrow, Martin, Eovaldi, Webster all went the normal ladder progression but I think Lee is in the Kershaw/Rubby class.

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Withrow and Eovaldi skipped Great Lakes. Webster has seen all the sights. Martin skipped rookie ball, or course. Aaron Miller has seen every place except Ogden.

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by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eovaldi didn’t skip Great Lakes.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops

missed that. Forgot he was there and then went BACK to rookie ball.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Injury rehab was the only reason he pitched in the rookie league last year

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I need to leave this stuff to the experts. Good sign that Watson, et al., decided to have young Mr. Eovaldi start at AA thie year, right?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eovaldi did not skip Great Lakes

Withrow was a special case because he missed a whole year

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

hm?

Clayton got 5 starts in AA in 2007, his first full year, but then again he did rookie ball and lee didn’t.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think we'll see Lee in HiA

if he has an outstanding 1st half there is a chance that he makes it up to AA toward the end of the season, but otherwise I see him in LoA all this year

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Belisario update...sort of

Ronald Belisario still hasn’t received his visa, per Enrique Rojas of ESPN.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

If he gets his visa

do the dodgers actually want him? After all his bullshitting/lying about it?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

What did he lie about?

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The “everything is fine” stuff like a day after his agent spoke to media back in spring training.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't he say he had his visa and would be leaving shortly

leading to his agent directly contradicting him?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be more worried that he hasn’t pitched in 6 weeks, and needs at least a month to get back into baseball shape. (…for him anyway).

The fucker is a lost cause.

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

*shrug*

You know how much Ned loves his bullpen reinforcements at the deadline.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have Bellisario or Jack Taschner?

If the man can pitch, he’s gonna pitch.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Taschner

he didn’t get one batter out his whole time as a Dodger did he?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems the visa problems is out of his control based on past transgressions. Not like he’s in anger management

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except he’s plead down to a misdemeanor. Would a misdemeanor cause you problems picking up a visa? Furcal, and others who had DUIs seemed to been able to do it in time.

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not like that's the only thing going on

His alleged drug rehab is almost certainly a factor as well.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the State Department treats visa apps from Venezuela differently from the Dominican Republic.
there is also the drug rehab thing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would think this is in his control? He may be an idiot but I think he’d rather be making money.

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude is the Venezuelan Kenny Fucking Powers
  
He doesn’t need baseball shape once he gets his pitch back bitches

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either I’m too dumb to get B/R to work or I’m doing it wrong, but..
How can I see how often Broxton has gotten ahead in the count and how effective his fastball has been behind in the count.
It’s a simple hypothesis, but just from memory, seems he pitches behind a lot and logically, if he’s pitching behind, guys will sit on fastball and spit on slider.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 19, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

As far as I know, Baseball-Reference.com doesn’t have splits for pitch type.

They do have splits vs. power and finesse guys, but that is more generalized.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least this year it hasn’t been a problem. Broxton has thrown nothing but fastballs 2-0, 3-0, 3-1, and 3-2.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last year he threw fastballs when he’s behind ~90% of the time.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m interested how often it’s 2-0, etc. vs. 0-1, 0-2. I don’t think it’s between his ears, I think he’s in hitter’s counts too often.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 19, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

In 2010:

Count even:
Ahead: 41%
Behind: 29%
Even: 30%

The league:
Ahead: 32%
Behind: 36%
Even: 32%

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey The Steig apologized for being a dick…no he didn’t.

I had my audience in mind, and was saying that the incident in Los Angeles was an example of the out-of-control behavior that I had been writing and talking about for years. I never dreamed anybody who knew Brian Stow would read those words, and they wouldn’t have if it hadn’t gone viral.

“Okay, maybe saying Brian Stow deserved to be beaten to death was harsh. BUT THIS WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM IF YOU WOULDN’T HAVE LINKED TO IT.”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Pulling out the “I don’t know how our current communication systems work card.”

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

“h’okay so like, I was just saying this to get the um attentions or whatever. You’s guys, you is at fault cause I just wanted the attention, I didn’t want the results of attention. That stuff is like no good or whatever”

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I think the guy wasn’t seeking attention, he’s just terrible.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did not know there was a homework assignment after attending the game.

1. Whatever the size the crowd, folks seemed very upbeat and cheerful walking in. Not a lot of drinking in the stands.
2. Concession stand closures noticeable.
3. First couple of rows of the Loge section behind home plate are the best seats in the house. If there was fridge and television screen by the seat, I’d never leave.
4. Lilly had good movement and got his fastball up out of the zone to get some guys out.
5. Casey Blake just kind of grows on you.
6. Matt Kemp may have figured it out physically as far as swing but from my seat, dude just looks like he having fun and feeling real comfortable.
7. No one was happier for James than HJ and Phil (plus me) once he got the single.
8. Jerry Sands mania was quite noticeable. Though I just think it easier to yell Jerry Jerry instead of Thames Thames
9. Was more impressed by the sac fly than the double.
10. Lilly’s toss over Nate’s head had the HJ seal of approval.
11. The only thing wrong with Matt so far is that he doesn’t have a hot sister (that we know of)
12. Oh, there are a lot of uniformed police around the Stadium

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

9. agree. Both me and Gary were fooled and thought it was out.
12. We counted 6 uniforms in the quarter full left field pavilion.

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right Field pavilion looked to have 10% security compared to fans.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully to stop anyone from starting a wave in a mostly empty stadium.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was a wave

but I did not see any beach balls.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re:12

So can LAPD just say, “screw it, this is our jurisdiction now” after what happened on opening day? Were they asked to police the stadium by the organization, because I thought that the Dodgers were going to develop a private security strategy w/ Bratton’s firm.

by guy clinch on Apr 19, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure in this case, McCourt is purchasing off duty cops to roam the stadium

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Until he does, it’s nice to have some peace of mind that you won’t get murdered at a Dodger game. Or at least if you killed they’ll know who did it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well it is private property

so LAPD just can’t set up a command center and since LAPD is not by its a nature, a security force, they are being paid separately for this work.

However in terms of numbers and deployment, that would be an LAPD call.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The 30 light towers are nice, they need to keep those but just like the parking thing, eventually the increased police presence will stand down.

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yahoo

Report Notes:

When a left-handed pitcher starts, Sands will play first base and James Loney will sit on the bench. Loney delivered a two-run single in the first inning Monday, and he needs to do more of that, because Sands could end up the starting first baseman if Loney’s .150 average doesn’t go up soon.
OF Xavier Paul was designated for assignment. The Dodgers have 10 days to trade Paul or release him. They’d love to trade Paul for a middle infielder with a good glove, even if he’s not much of a hitter.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Paul for Hu:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I do trust non-attributed and no named authored reports.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 19, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

These reports are some of the most accurate I’ve seen. Just don’t know who writes them.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we trade Paul for a middle infielder does that mean no more Miles or DeJesus?

by dodgers4life on Apr 19, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Miles will be here all season.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could go my whole life without ever seeing Miles bat again and be just fine

and he needs to shave

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Literally the only reason DeJesus is on the team is because Juan Castro hurt his oblique. He’s buried on the current depth chart.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

The phrase “When a left-handed pitcher starts, Sands will play first base and James Loney will sit on the bench” seems too simplistic, compared with all the various reports that were out yesterday.

I’m pretty sure Mattingly said Sands would see time at first against “tough lefties.” I expect Sands will get a ton of playing time, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there is no strict regiment of playing time.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That probably also means that Sands will sit against ‘tough righties’ as well

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know this to be true

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sands didn’t come all the way from Albuquerque to take in the view *harumph

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I had to guess

Sands would still be down on the farm

Maybe. Sure, he might sit against some tough pitchers from time to time, but he is also here to play and I wouldn’t imagine that he picks splinters out of his ass everytime some guy with an era of 3 comes to town

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd sit him

against Lowe, who could give him issues.

Tonight’s starter, Beachy, is a big time minor league strikeout guy. Could be tough…or not. Who knows.

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

they are all tough, that’s why they are in the major leagues

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beachy might not be for much longer

Didn’t he get roughed up his last two starts?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still has a career strikeout rate of nine.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

So does Oliver Perez

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

as does this list of mostly

nondescript starters with an ERA+ below 100

                                                                  
Player SO/9 ERA+ From To Age GS IP Tm
Bud Norris 9.27 82 2009 2011 24-26 40 225.1 HOU
Mike Minor 9.00 62 2010 2011 22-23 9 45.0 ATL
Brandon Beachy 8.91 95 2010 2011 23-24 6 32.1 ATL
Rick Vanden Hurk 8.84 74 2007 2010 22-25 33 172.0 FLA-TOT
Edinson Volquez 8.74 97 2005 2011 21-27 74 411.0 TEX-CIN
Marc Rzepczynski 8.37 99 2009 2011 23-25 23 133.1 TOR
Manny Parra 8.28 81 2007 2010 24-27 74 454.1 MIL
Jordan Zimmermann 8.25 95 2009 2011 23-25 26 140.2 WSN
Felipe Paulino 8.10 69 2007 2011 23-27 34 214.1 HOU-COL
Rich Hill 8.07 96 2005 2010 25-30 70 399.1 CHC-BAL-BOS

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/19/2011.

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where’s the list of good players with a K rate over nine?

Point is that Beachy is worth giving a shot.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

much larger list, easier to fit the so so guys here:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

This looks like a list of 4th/5th starters to me.

by BFDC on Apr 19, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you did that list one start ago it would have looked a hell of a lot different.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Hudson

is a pretty tough righty.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

truth

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was waiting and waiting for this

thank you David

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

all lefties are tough for our James

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

baseball is tough for James. The roller past him in the 9th(?) was all his fault

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was kind of a funny partner, his defensive slide/dive, to his earlier slide into second base that seemingly took forever to get to the bag.

James should copyright the long, slow slide.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno what laws of physics he’s following, but they aren’t working in his favor : )

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

trade Paul for a middle IF who is not much of a hitter?

they really don’t want to play IDJ do they?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why don’t they like DeJesus?

by dodgers4life on Apr 19, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he seems to be the team comedian, so that goes a long way.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Miles also has a guaranteed contract the rest of the year and can’t be sent down to AAA without his permission.

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yet when they are both on the roster

IDJ sits on the bench for Miles.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could also be they want DeJesus to get more minor league seasoning and play every day. It was just a broken leg and two years ago he was our minor league player of the year and looked to be a starting SS of the future.

by BFDC on Apr 19, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really think that ship has sailed on SS of the future. But it is just my opinion.

Yes - I am on Team Frank.

by delias man on Apr 19, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

we still need a 2b of the future

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 19, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

They definitely want him to play everyday, but if they thought he was any good right now he would be playing more rather than Miles starting eight of 17 games.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

they thought he was any good right now

Hence the need for more minor league seasoning. To improve and if for nothing else, to boost his trade value.

I also think the SS of the future ship sailed after the broken leg. Just saying where he was not too long ago.

by BFDC on Apr 19, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather trade Paul for a minor league C or 3B with some potential.

by dodgers4life on Apr 19, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

So would all sentient life

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paul will not bring back anyone good.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

is Chris Davis "good"?

(iknowiknowsorry) ;)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy stat line of the year

Jarrod Dyson
9 plate appearances
5 official at bats
3 walks
3 k’s
5 stolen bases
TSL of 000/.375/.000

Dude has been on base only three times, has five stolen bases. Heard he was the closest thing to Herb Washington we have had.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Dyson? He sucks.

Dyson goes 1st to 3rd super fast because of his superior Ball™ technology.

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by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Grey writes about Jerry Sands
The biggest question Sands is going to have to answer is about his ability to handle big league off-speed stuff. He’ll have timing issues where he doesn’t get his foot down, and also a tendency to get a little big, pulling off the ball. However, I have seen stretches where he’s stayed back nicely in his swing, taking balls on the outer half to right-center. The strikeout totals are going to be high, but we can deal with those if the power is there, which it should be. Sands isn’t a free-swinging hacker, but a player willing to wait for something to drive, and he should hit for enough batting average to make his numbers in the power categories matter.

There’s always some inherent skepticism of lower-round picks, as people ask themselves the question, “If he was this good, why wasn’t he drafted higher?” But I go by what I see. I see some parallels to that of Mitch Moreland coming up last year. Moreland was a 17th-round pick and I said when evaluating him as a prospect that sometimes people get too focused on the things a player isn’t or doesn’t do well, instead of focusing on the things he can do well. And what Moreland could do was hit. I think that also applies in Sands’ case.

http://insider.espn.go.com/sports/fantasy/blog?name=grey_jason&id=6389212

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

with all due respect to the person I heard this from

“A guy shows up to Spring Training for the first time and after a week writes home, ‘Hey mom, ST is great, everybody is friendly and I’m doing really well’ Two weeks later he writes home, “hey mom, they started throwing curveballs. I’ll see you in a week”

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It will probably take Sands years to figure out curveballs, and if not, he’ll just be Pedro Serrano.

Also, I feel that part of the un-athletic tag that Sands is getting is because he’s huge like Adam Dunn.

by Tripon on Apr 19, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

his 3rd ab

against hudson was really good.. I think if this wasnt his first game in the bigs he would have held off on that outside slider that put him away..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 19, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

heck of a lotta Sands love there

if this then that

I thought it was a decent approach, but I am not going to excuse the K as just because it was his first game

lets hold all ballplayers to a similar standard, nothing worse than an appologist fanbase for the favorite sons

well, actualy there are many things worse than that, but we don’t need to talk about them here

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t see the four beavers he saw after his double. AAA didn’t prepare him for that:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even Sands' Ks

showed patience early on. Just not Extreme Patience™

by silverwidow on Apr 19, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

he worked the count, gotta give him credit for that

by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Moreland comp is solid but as Canuck pointed out last year the Jason Bay comp seems to be the best one. 20th round pick, 6’2 right handed hitter, quiet speed, good power, no one thought he was anything until he was. Never ranked higher then 74 by Baseball America.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

To add to this

in 2003 the Padres traded Bay and Oliver Perez for Brian Giles a great hitter in his prime. Who is playing right now that would fit the Giles comp?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the time of his trade? Matt Holliday?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

For all the anti swearing people

Next time you stub your toe, go ahead and let those four-letter words fly. Cursing actually does help dull our perception of pain, new research suggests.
So there you have it. Research shows cursing reduces pain. Maybe emotional pain as well.

by uschris0304 on Apr 19, 2011 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I curse like a sailor

I try to remember to keep it down around women and children, and in public places

but otherwise enjoy it

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

same

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whenever Broxton is pitching and I yell FUCK, I immediately feel better.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Backed by science!

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 19, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Emaus was just DFA'd by the Mets

Emaus for Paul?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

The Mets decided they’d rather lose Emaus than possibly losing Hu.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

took the Dodgers a while

to get rid of Hu as well,

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still means they think Emaus is worse than Hu.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

still

he’s only gotten 42 PA

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, but when faced with the options of:

Having Hu and
Having Emaus and a 90% chance of having Hu

They went with just Hu. That does not make me enthusiastic about Emaus. Anyway this is irrelevant since the Blue Jays get him back.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming he passes through waivers (likely).

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a Rule V pick, don’t the Blue Jays get first crack?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think they can trade him to whoever claims him

but then that team has to keep him on the roster per Rule 5….rules.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think so to

Which means it is pretty unlikely that someone trades for him.

OTOH, the Dodgers could take him and option DeJesus.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

if the rumor of what they are looking for in a Paul trade is true

my guess is that’s exactly what they’ll do.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he goes through the normal waiver process, but the rule 5 restrictions of having to be on the 25-man roster. If he clears, then I think the Jays can buy him back for $25,000 before he can be outrighted or released, but Eric is the expert on this.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah looked it up, this is how it works.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

So if some team claims him, the Mets can’t refuse that, or withdraw the waivers or anything like that, right.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure, but I can’t see why you’d go:

“we don’t want this guy on our 25 man”
“okay we’ll take him”
“whoa whoa whoa never mind we want the guy”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

only

if the Mets don’t trade him.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Emaus would be a good return for Paul.

by dodgers4life on Apr 19, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like what Dodgers want

but would the Mets want/need Paul?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Dodgers want Emaus

can’t they just claim him? (Unless someone with a worse record in the NL claims him first.)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Paul clears waivers

why wouldn’t the Dodgers just outright him? Lotta injuries in Albuquerque and Sands isn’t there anymore either.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Legs

always asks the tough questions

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking about this.

by OB12 on Apr 19, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Met fans were telling me he was the next Uggla:)

They be having a hard time finding a 2nd baseman.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

does he project

to have similar power?

i was just reading about how he and Uggla have had similar career paths.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Similar power to the guy who is the only second baseman in history to hit 30 home runs in a season four times?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 19, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

you could

just say no Phil. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Apr 19, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow - that wasn't even the Meercat

but we have lost our perspective on power porn

give me a 15HR+ a year guy with a solid glove and a good OBP and that is quite the offensive 2B package

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 19, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you travel down the Emaus road

You are never quite sure Hu is with you.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 19, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

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