MLB To Oversee Day-To-Day Operations Of The Dodgers
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 2:28 PM PDT
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The beginning of the end of McCourt ownership of the Dodgers is upon us. Major League Baseball has announced that it will take control of day-to-day operations and finances of the Dodgers. Just last month when commissioner Bud Selig visited Camelback Ranch he had little to say regarding McCourt and the Dodgers. However, today he had plenty to say. Here is the official statement from Selig:
"Pursuant to my authority as Commissioner, I informed Los Angeles Dodgers owner Frank McCourt today that I will appoint a representative to oversee all aspects of the business and the day-to-day operations of the Club. I have taken this action because of my deep concerns regarding the finances and operations of the Dodgers and to protect the best interests of the Club, its great fans and all of Major League Baseball. My office will continue its thorough investigation into the operations and finances of the Dodgers and related entities during the period of Mr. McCourt's ownership. I will announce the name of my representative in the next several days.
"The Dodgers have been one of the most prestigious franchises in all of sports, and we owe it to their legion of loyal fans to ensure that this club is being operated properly now and will be guided appropriately in the future."
It would be kind of funny if the representative appointed was Kim Ng.
Let's hope for more Rangers and less Expos in this MLB oversee.
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It would bekind of funnyfucking awesome if the representative appointed was Kim Ng.
C'mon, let's rock tonight...we're goin' right out of our minds!
by Maddz on Apr 20, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
rec'd so hard
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So Frank McCourt hires Steve Soboroff as an executive to enhance the fan experience
and one day later, Bud Selig removes McCourt from being in charge. That is some dryly funny shit from Bud.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He may have let Frank have some advance notice, and Frank put Soboroff into that spot on purpose. I’d find it hard to believe that Frank just found out this news this morning.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Oh, come on
It was an unpaid internship. Frank couldn’t find money for REAL employees.
Witty .sig goes here.
I’m curious how Soboroff will spin this.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
"Wait, they did what?"
“OK, I’m outta here”
by Greg Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You know who'd be a sick #2 hitter for us next year?
Carlos Beltran. When he’s hitting behind Jose Reyes and in front of Pujols, Kemp Dre Aramis and Sands.
Going back to work now.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Can he actually run, i.e. play the field right now? Last I heard he was pretty wobbly and hobbled.
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You mean besides the fact that I listed 2 1B?
I’m sure he could play LF as well as Manny.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I figured you intended for Sands to play 2B.
by StolenMonkey86 on Apr 20, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Player-Owner
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
He's pretty hostile to us blogger folk though
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
seemed more hostile to the paid internet writers
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I feel like there is no way that the rest of the owners would approve of Cuban
C'mon, let's rock tonight...we're goin' right out of our minds!
Nah
he said he wouldn’t as majority owner but would be interested in a minority stake.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Then we wouldn't be getting the Mark Cuban ownership
that people want. They want the crazy spend all my money version, and as minority owner I doubt we get that
These hands will always be rough
If you’re Mark Cuban, do you “crazy spend” w/out being the majority owner? I don’t think so.
Coincidentally, I had food from a Cuban place for lunch today.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
heard this
I’m going to Porto’s Bakery once I get home
C'mon, let's rock tonight...we're goin' right out of our minds!
No, Havana Sandwich on Main, across from the post office where I had to run an errand. Grabbed a ropa vieja special and headed back to my office.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Versailles is too greasy
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
And Chartes has too much salt!
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong.
The bird is the word
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The plantains are pretty good though!
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
yeesh, I'm tired. And racist
I meant any sort of food.
I was thinking mexican because I was thinking of tacos and Nashville’s inability to do them unless they’re by people who aren’t white…and they’re relegated to places of the city I can’t get to without a car
#teamng
Wut
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Where are you that you don't have food?
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
she was banned to the North Tower
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
It’s called hyperbole, I has it.
But I’m in the South, I’m a huge fan of latin foods, what they have here ranges from Qdoba to Taco Bell.
#teamng
unless you go out to the outskirts, but apparently all the white folk here are afraid to go.
#teamng
Fucking white people
What are they good for anyhow?
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
We are pretty good at being oppressive.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been away from this place so long
I don’t know any of the memes. Does this mean she’s at Berkeley?
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Nah, we banned Josie to that god forsaken place, she be in Nashville
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Thanks for clearing that up
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Nashville’s inability
This is literal.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ah okay
well when you get back to LA I’ll buy you a taco
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Obligatory
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I predict that we arent especially thrilled with whoever is awarded the team
hope I’m wrong though, Cuban would get my preliminary vote though : )
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I predict that even if he's not an exciting owner
he’ll look amazing compared to McCourt. But then I thought something similar after the Fox sale.
true, but as was mentioend below I guess you could argue that
McCourt Was a lot better than FOX, so maybe it’ll just get better and better
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I'm not sure after the last year or so
But… Fox did cost us Piazza for really no good reason, so thats a big one.
Cuban will be blocked from owning a MLB team
MLB office and the owners don’t want Cuban. They basically went out of their way to stop him at the beginning from looking into buying the Cubs.
I think a good owner for the Dodgers is a local business owner to a competent business group. The big, big problem with Frank McCourt is the huge turnover of employees since he acquired the team in 2004. They need some competent front office employees.
Who cares about front office turnover? I don’t care if they rotate through 10,000 different front office employees if they are also putting the best baseball players on the field. I have no reason to believe front office turnover has anything to do with the bad free agent signings, etc.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Security has been a problem...
One of the people fired after the 2010 season was the head of security.. besides others like management types like Dennis Mannion, which exasperated MLB Commissioner’s office.
There has been a huge amount of turnover in the front and back office in the Dodgers since the McCourt has taken over.
McCourt is a litigation kind of guy, but MLB has some mighty big guns in this territory. I bet they know how to hush Frank up.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Not saying he’d win, but i think it’s a given that McCourt takes this to court. I just dont see him rolling over on something this huge. I mean, really, what’s there to lose is the team is already slipping away.
He won’t go to court if he gets the settlement he wants.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Exactly
If he has a couple hundred million coming to him, knowing most people in LA hate him, he would be smart to take his money and walk away. Still making a really solid return on his money considering he had hardly any equity to begin with.
How to hush Frank up:
Remember that Frank “officially” hasn’t taken a salary and thus owes back taxes at the time of a presumed sale only, the time those “loans” become actual income.
It could get mighty dicey.
Witty .sig goes here.
I think the deal is...
That Selig, MLB and the other owners will try to get a good group of buyers for the Dodgers, some loans from MLB to McCourt will be forgiven, and Frank will get a pretty nice price for selling the team, probably in the $650-700 million range… or something in that order..
because it is cheaper for MLB
to get the Dodgers sold, instead of worrying if Frank can make payroll week to week.
What Selig is doing, is basically telling Frank to sell the team, forget waiting to 2013 to include the team and broadcasting rights.
Second it is also cheaper for some sort of loan forgiveness than battling out in court of months to years, much like the McCourt Divorce is probably going to cost 15-20+/- million
There’s no point in forgiving the loans though. If team is sold, for X and Frank’s total debt load is Y, then as long as X is greater than Y, all loans will be paid off.
And all loans are included in the sale price anyway as Liabilities. Just like you can’t buy the team and not pick up Juan Uribe’s contract.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Bob Slydell: Juan Uribe.
Dom Portwood: Who’s he?
Bob Porter: You know, thick looking guy, mumbles a lot, belongs on a telenovela.
Dom Portwood: Oh, yeah.
Bob Slydell: Yeah, we can’t actually find a record of him being a current employee here.
Bob Porter: I looked into it more deeply and I found that apparently what happened is that he was DFA’d five years ago and no one ever told him about it; but through some kind of glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck.
Bob Slydell: So we just went ahead and fixed the glitch.
Bill Lumbergh: Great.
Dom Portwood: So, uh, Uribe has been let go?
Bob Slydell: Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the ‘glitch’. So he won’t be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it’ll just work itself out naturally.
Bob Porter: We always like to avoid confrontation, whenever possible. Problem is solved from your end.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
by G.Scott on Apr 20, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Isn’t that what happened to Orlando Hudson?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Juan, we’re gonna need you to go ahead and move your stuff down to the groundskeepers office, we’re making some, renovations and we just, don’t have the space. Oh, your bat, let me just take that from you, alright? Thanks.
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, your bat, let me just take that from you, alright?
“Its not like you were using it anyway.”
by EMDarrow on Apr 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think any of the loans will be assumed. That would keep the debt load too high. They will all be paid off and a new owner will get loans that fit into MLB’s supposed LTV requirements.
I’m just speaking as to how sales work. It all depends on if the loans are loans to the Dodgers or Frank McCourt. If they are Frank’s loans, he’ll have to pay them back with what I assume will be his proceeds from the sale. If they are loans to the Los Angeles Dodgers, they’ll be part of the purchase price.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
“That would keep the debt load too high”
The alleged problem with the McCourts is they didn’t have enough money to support the debt load. Not the gross size of the debt. If the existing debt is too high to be serviced by the next owners, all your wet dreams about the next decade go down the tube.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I get you
Not sure if I agree, but in any case I was just splitting hairs about your assertion that the existing debt load would to high for a new ownership group.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
McCourt already has $450 million in liabilities or more with the Dodgers..
I doubt he has paid off the 2004 purchase, given most of it was borrowed.
McCourt has securitized the Parking Lots, he has securitized the ticket sales…
He has a huge mountain of debt, and his one big leverage at the moment, is holding out, he can veto the purchasing price, like something in the $450-500 million dollard range, to get a better deal. He may be in the negative after the selling of the Dodgers because of the Capital Gains tax that he will owe after he sells the Dodgers.
It depends how much banks are willing to lend to the
buyers’ group.
Don’t go by the Forbes valuation of the Dodgers, it kind of ambiguous on So. Cal market as a huge part of the value. Go more by EBITDA, annual profits, (a good year is $30 million) and how to maximize revenue streams, (much like the Yankees, have revenue more in the $450 to $500 million dollar range, with the power of YES)
If the Dodgers are sold for $700 to $750 million, with a group already in the works for a local sports channel, (which is a different story) it would be a good buy, but I see the purchase price being more in the $550 to $600 million range more because banks will be hesistant in loaning much higher.
You could be right. I would love to get my hands on one of the offering memorandums that will be sent out. All depends on what their real revenue is and what people think they can get out of a new TV deal.
Either way, Frank should be in the red unless his loan balance is much higher than anyone knows.
exactly right
I think you are looking at the high $500s for the franchise and stadium. There is deferred maintanence, the time it will take to get attendence back up, deferred payroll, rebuilding infrastructure, scouting, etc to deal with.
by silverlakebruin on Apr 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
McCourt hasn’t borrowed any money from MLB
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He borrowed money from MLB to purchase the Dodgers in 2004
Around $75 million, and I highly doubt all of it is paid off..
already signed a no-sue clause to get ownership
prolly wouldn’t stop him from tryin
I feel...unusual
MLB
knows how to protect themselves from each other. Honor among thieves, or something like that.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This could really jack with the 2012 free agent market. Not because we’ll all of a sudden be players, but because a new owner won’t be resolved by then and the market may wait us out to see what we do. Or, it’ll be an opportunity for someone else to step out while we’re cleaning house.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Vlady all over again
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Exactly
Except this time it could end up being the best hitter in a generation.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
He doesn't have a leg to stand on with all the shit he's
done. He had to of known this (or something like this) was coming
by Greg Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume someone being basically murdered in the parking lot on opening day, the $30m loans from fox and the attendance figures in the 26,000s this last week resulted in this move..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 20, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
G Scott said it would end like this
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
John Ely could be banging Jamie McCourt right now
and it wouldn’t be the big story of the day
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
like Matt Kemp's old walk up song
I’m on to the next
C'mon, let's rock tonight...we're goin' right out of our minds!
Tray with another walk and another hit
but 2 more SOs. Man he is striking out alot.
These hands will always be rough
Looking pretty decent so far
aside from those Ks.
finally a reason to play the lottery
my math is good enough to know its my only shot
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
IF WE ALL POOL OUR MONEY WE HAVE A SHOT
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
It's too bad a Green Bay Packer type people's ownership can never happen
;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
“Dark horse candidate TBLA LLC has entered the ownership race, making a strong bid backed by the entire internet.”
C'mon, let's rock tonight...we're goin' right out of our minds!
by Maddz on Apr 20, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Moments after purchase"
“The first promotion is announced. ‘Fuck You Ruiz’ night will see all fans in attendance receive a free dartboard with the face of the Phillies catcher.”
by EMDarrow on Apr 20, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Dodgers' Pick to Clink
Bombay Sapphire announces that after each Dodger loss, the ticket stub may be exchanged for $5 off the big bottle of gin.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He's on vacation.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Damn, I made the same reference above but right after this one.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
ding dong the witch is dead
see you around McGrifters
by preacher roe on Apr 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I think it goes like this
ding dong the dick is dead
the fucking dick is dead
Which old dick?
the fucking dick!
the fucking dick is dead
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with Josie
I do not care for this metaphorical image
C'mon, let's rock tonight...we're goin' right out of our minds!
My dreams are coming true?
or are these nightmares? Its so hard to tell anymore
These hands will always be rough
by nolander on Apr 20, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least the Rangers situation laid out a decent blueprint for this situation
Other than the potential litigation from Frank.
Go bankrupt, get new owners, go to world series
I approve of this blueprint. And it’s blue so it’s destiny
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Apr 20, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you mean the guy with worse finances than the McCourts?
by StolenMonkey86 on Apr 20, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not exactly looking forward to the next couple of years, but thank goodness the McCourts are gone.
http://www.dingersblog.com
Let’s not say this until they are actually, finally gone.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
What you forgot to note is that the Dodgers will relocate to Los Angeleese.
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2011 2:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Ha Ha! Hate how Selig can’t pronounce Los Angeles.
by dodgers4life on Apr 20, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
they will be called the yang-nas
TREY J FOR MVP
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Apr 20, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I rec’d it because it made me roll my eyes
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Frank McCourt has been burnt by Selig. Asshole’s Ashes.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
How long have you been saving that one for?
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A few minutes. Bad jokes are a pretty worthless commodity to hoard, so I spend them freely, much to y’alls detriment.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
As if Ethier wasn't already worried about being DFA'ed...now he's probably thinking there will be a fire sale with his name on it.
by Dr. Geek on Apr 20, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
the hilarious thing about all that
someone in my class was like, “well isn’t Ethier a FA after this year?”
Me: NO. DRE IS STUPID.
#teamng
He went to ASU
you were expecting Stephen Hawking?
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
‘Dre must be one of the smarter ASU guys; at least he doesn’t get caught shoplifting. BTW, this also explains why Rick Monday can never remember to give the score (when he occasionally did play-by-play).
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I am constantly under the assumption that I am one of 6 or 7 people here with an IQ over 100
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
sub 100 here
derp derp derp
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Your IQ is about 25? I think you’re selling yourself short.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
we've got 55 here
55…..any one else……55……going once…..goince twice….SOLD! your IQ is now 55!
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
It was 99.99999999999999993
divided by 4.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Here meaning ASU
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I should have clarified
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering for a second where you were going with that :)
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, was a little too vague with my statement there.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Your boy is back
#Dodgers lineup: Carroll 6, Blake 5, Ethier 9, Kemp 8, Uribe 4, Loney 3, Sands 7, Barajas 2, Garland 1
per @dodgers
#teamng
Uribe ain’t budging from the five spot until he hits a home run
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Uribe and Loney in the 5/6 hole is going to get Kemp to 100 walks before the all star break.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribe and Loney in the 5/6 hole is going to get Kemp to 100 Intentional walks before the all star break.
Fixed.
by EMDarrow on Apr 20, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
how long
until Sands bats ahead of Loney & Uribe?
@bobtimmermann Steve Soboroff will be entrusted with enhancing the MLB rep’s receivership experience.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Breaking
Derek Jeter retires, submits bid for Dodgers.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
@BillShaikin MLB informed McCourt last night about takeover, Selig sent letter with list of issues.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
so skip my previous comment.
Now I do wonder what the hell Soboroff is thinking this afternoon
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Joins a long list of those
lied to and abused by Frank McCourt, starting with dodger fans.
by silverlakebruin on Apr 20, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
1) The people of LA deserve a winner, because there are a lot of them
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster has these guys as speculated possible owners
Dennis Gilbert; Brewers owner Mark Attanasio; Tom Werner; Lew Wolff
I don’t know who these people are.
#teamng
Attanasio lives in LA. I’m surprised he didn’t mention Eli Broad.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Even Buster knows
Broad is a cheap attention whore who will never be serious.
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
What do you guys think about Dennis Gilbert?
by dodgers4life on Apr 20, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Geffen! Spielberg!
I’m just throwing out names from this crazy list of the wealthiest Angelenos.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm guessing the 93 year old dudes won't be a good fit...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Geffen had his little flirtation with professional ownership last year with that bizarre rumor that he would buy half of the Clippers and deliver us Lebron.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That was bizarre
I honestly don’t see him as the ownership type anyway…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Lew Wolff is the A’s/Earthquakes owner. Tom Werner owns Liverpool and the Tampa Bay Bucs, right?
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
A’s move to Portland, renamed the Beavers
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You should watch a Portland Timbers match. They’ve got excellent fans, and this guy chainsaws a log when they score a goal
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna make the trip up to check it out, also get a feel for the hipster heaven that is Portland. Also making the trip to San Jose this year
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
you keep doing that, they’re gonna stay that way
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i have big plans to give this galaxy thing a try in the next champions league
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
RSL plays Monterey tonight in the title match, a CCL win puts them in the FIFA Club World Cup, very exciting
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it the dude from Jackyl?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
There will never, EVER again be a sports team called the Portland Beavers.
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Thought the deal was Wolff gets Dodgers, Steinberg gets Mets, Tampa and A’s contracted.
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Eric was telling me that we need 2 more MLB teams, not 2 fewer
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm...
No wild card. Rockies move to a different division. That could work for me….
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Introducing your Tulsa Tumbleweeds and Deluth Miners.
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Yup, that's definitely the big problem
I have a hard time coming up with a 2nd city that makes sense (after Portland)
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I really do think Tulsa would be fantastic. I also think the South needs a team besides the Braves. Why not New Orleans?
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Nashville I hear is nice and has some money. Also Louisville, they make bats or something
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Lack of population
really hot and humid in the summer.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The Hornets are owned by the NBA
Because nobody wants to buy that team. Because they lose a fuck ton of money
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I know LSU is good at baseball, so I wonder if some of that would translate into professional interest.
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It's football country down there
There’s a reason why the Saints are the only (barely) successful sports franchise there.
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That’s not fun. I live in the East Bay and like the A’s. :-/
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry Ellison of Oracle wealth might be another name to watch
He flirted with buying the Warriors
The thong is, it happened.
MLB teams are SOOOO much more expensive though
If these guys got off the pot for a basketball team, why would they go crazy on an MLB team?
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that as Elbert
He sure is. But if not the local team with an arena named after his company, why a more expensive team a few hundred miles away?
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it was because he couldn't afford the Warriors
I think he just wanted more concessions than the guys who bought them
The thong is, it happened.
I'm agreeing with you that he could afford the Dodgers and Warriors (and a lot of stuff)
But if there was no deal in the NBA, I think MLB makes less sense.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I also question why just because someone is wealthy they would want to buy a team they have never had any connection to.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
No one was interested in the Dodgers when Frank bought the team, now the cost is twice as much, doubt there is going to be a line of interested financiers. They will be a line of people who will claim to be putting together a group but most of that will go nowhere. Hopefully someone steps up, but the idea that some white knight is going to ride in and rescue this franchise, I’m not going to believe until I see it happen.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
and things are soooooooooooo different now
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Other then Frank's loans isn't the team profitable?
How is the team a mess other then the loans?
These hands will always be rough
Those are Dodger loans not Franks,anyone buying the team is buying those loans, you cannot separate them.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
It’s business law man. I know it’s been a couple years since I took the course, but all liabilities and assets are included in the sale. If the Dodgers owe someone money, they’ll still owe that money even if it’s a different guy writing the checks.
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Yea but in most cases when you purchase an asset you are able to pay off the existing loans. Especially on very large transactions like this.
Why is this issue a sticking point?
If they pay off the loans, that means the buyer spent X and X -5 went to repay the loans.
If they don’t pay off the loans, that means the buyer spent X and 5 (loans) remains on the books.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
How?
I mean, sure it could, if there are stuff like warrants (there won’t be) or there are enormous pre-payment penalties. I don’t any of the debt is that exotic. Most of this is just a matter of adding up assets and liabilities or as somebody mentioned earlier, taking EBITDA multiples.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I mentioned
and I think we’re saying the same thing still, if the Loans are Frank McCourt to BofA, Frank would continue to pay off the loan as scheduled. If the loans are BofA to Dodgers, the Dodgers will still pay off the loan as scheduled. The difference is, Frank can pay his loans off with money from the sale, whereas the new owner of the Dodgers would also be purchasing those loans as part of the Dodgers property.
When you buy a house, you get the leaky sink too. Fixing the sink is just part of the cost of ownership.
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The leaky sink is not analogous to the loans.
The leaky sink is Uribe.
When you buy a house, or let’s say a $1 Billion office building, generally the loans on the building are paid off and the new owner gets new loans.
but what’s the difference between the Los Angeles Dodgers owing Juan Uribe $21million over the next 3 years and the Los Angeles Dodgers owing Bank of America $400mil over the next 20 years?
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A lot of things
For one, Uribe is just an employee of the team. His relation to the team is completely different than the relation of the team to the loans. The team is collateral for the loans. The team is not collateral for Uribe.
Aside from that, if a new owner wants to make certain returns, you need to look at revenue, expenses and debt service (amongst other things but this is simplistic). If you are a new solvent owner you likely are not going to want to pay the same amount in debt service that Frank has been paying. An investor just won’t want the loans Frank procured for the team unless the loans are very favorable to the cash flow.
But when you buy the house, the seller pays off all the mortgages
I don’t know anything about the Dodger/McCourt financing, but if the you buy the team and have to assume the loans, that would bring the price down.
Assets – Liabilities = Value
The thong is, it happened.
I would honestly guess the team is profitable even with the loans.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
What
was Jerry Buss’s connection when he bought the Lakers, Kings, Forum, whatnot, from Jack Kent Cooke? He was in real estate here, or something, right?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wealthy developer, Laker fan. I always thought he simply bought the Lakers to improve his scoring ability.
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Lew Wolff? Doesn’t he already own a team, and wouldn’t that be a conflict of interest?
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t stop Marlins owner John Henry from becoming Red Sox owner John Henry.
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John Henry always sounds like British slang to me. Like John Thomas.
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Hammer’s gonna be the death of me, Lord, Lord,
Hammer’s gonna be the death of me.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s gonna die with his Hammer in his hand.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess, but someone had to buy the Marlins. Maybe someone will buy the A’s, I guess.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the recent low attendence has something to do with this. Selig knows that baseball is better when the Dodgers are good. Or this recent news is becuase of Jerry Sands. JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!
look, I love the Dodgers and I'm proud to be an Angeleno but
I guess the recent low attendence has something to do with this. Selig knows that baseball is better when the Dodgers are good.
That doesn’t seem to really make sense. The Dodgers have been slightly better than mediocre to bad for the last few years
#teamng
We did win 95 games in 2009, but outside of that, it’s been .500 ball. Baseball is best when the playoff teams rotate every few years, which has been happening. Getting places like Colorado and Tampa involved while keeping LA, Boston and NY interested in important.
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you want Both LA’s and both NY’s up and thriving. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mets get a similar letter soon
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Thriving, sure. But that doesn’t mean you want the world series to be Yankees/Dodgers, Mets/Red Sox every year.
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sure you do
you want as many people in it to the last day, and then you want blockbuster tv ratings for the playoffs with major teams.
SF/TX world series is not good for baseball. It may be good for those markets, but the tv contracts are better when the teams in the WS are better.
by silverlakebruin on Apr 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya
Fuck those losers who happen to live in Pittsburgh. We deserve more than you!
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder
if this means you will be allowed to sit in the corner table in the DS restaurant now
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would individual fans of teams give a rats ass about what it is good for baseball compared to what is good for their franchise?
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he cares because he thinks Dodgers in the WS is whats good for baseball
These hands will always be rough
How is two NLCS series in two of the last three years slightly better then mediocre?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
from anecdotal evidence at least
it appears that the McCourt divorce and general McCourt fed-uppedness took a toll on season ticket holders and package plans this season
@BillShaikin Any trades, signings or other significant expenditures now subject to MLB approval. #dodgers
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Can we retroactively void Uribe’s deal?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Oh you kids and your using The Tweeter
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That Sands/Gordon for Pujols deal is looking less likely now…
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Best case scenario?
Something like Eli Broad or an AEG group?
I think we’re all going to come out of this slightly disappointed, but it may still be a great thing for the Dodgers.
Broad – No
AEG is sort of busy, and BTW boy are they going to run the lakers in the ground whenever they buy out the Busses, etc.
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
because AEG has a track record of not making the Kings/Galaxy brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
AEG is focused on football right now, but having them own everything in LA would be interesting
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
They could sign Messi to play 2nd base. To make soccer arrive in the US.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He’d be Dee Gordon. Ton of range, worried about his throwing ability.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
You should see him dive to make a play in the hole.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
what about Magic?
maybe AEG lets him go after a baseball team with a group of investors while they continue to work on the NFL
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Apr 20, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
kareem on the other hand….
Still don’t want him
No attention grabbers – I want someone who we don’t know and won’t know. I want a face behind smoked glass
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
With Scrooge McDuck coin
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ever heard of Star Wars?
Looks like that cigarette is gonna get launched at someones face.
Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think
I have seen too many people have a lit cigarette and throw it someone and scream "star wars"
Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think
I think we’re all going to come out of this slightly disappointed
While there is no certainty that this isn’t out of the pan and into the fire, and I doubt we will have a Yankees or even Phillies payroll two years from now, I am ready to take my chances with being disappointed
I am ready for the Devil I don’t know
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. I don’t think it could truly get worse. This is one of the last front offices to get with the times. I’ll gladly take smaller payroll/better decisions if that’s the Beezelbub I don’t know.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
head of aeg
basically said yesterday on Mason and Ireland they have no interest in baseball and football is their #1 priority.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 20, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's one for the ladies :)
Oprah’s retiring. She’s worth like $3 billion
Free Australian trip night
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2011 3:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
oh man…fan appreciation night just got legit
#teamng
by Maddz on Apr 20, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Man, if Oprah has to say “You get a car” 56,000 times, she’s gonna get a sore throat.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
And now for the grand prize, a 2012 Escalade!
Loge section, Aisle 19, row T aww who am I kidding, ESCALADES FOR EVERYONE!
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Just checking in to say
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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{{{clink!}}}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It will have a picture of him in a crazy outfit and be called Leverage: How I made hundreds of millions without any real money.
by BFDC on Apr 20, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone on the Cal blog just came up with the brilliant title Los Angeles Ashes.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
There was one above… but I liked this one better.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Meanwhile, on the fields
10-2 Rockies over Giants in 8th, 1-1 Cubs and Padres in extras.
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Kinda Cool and kinda really not good at all.
Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think
That’s right. Our days of discontent have certainly reached a middle, and it is likely that this is gonna get really ugly and a lot worse before it gets better.
In short, clink, everybody — and make mine a double.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
did Humma just get his Whedon on? I like!
by Josie Becker on Apr 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I try to play cool my inner Whedon fanboy, but yes, I saw every episode of Dollhouse.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t get better, that’s for sure.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I still need to finish that
There was no hope for that show though. 6 episodes of mandated dicking around to start, and the worst actress in the main cast is the star. Oops.
These hands will always be rough
you know what
and I got trolled on twitter for this, but fuck Summer Glau, I think she’s not great. I didn’t mind the Dushku. Paul Ballard was stupid hot, I loved the return of Alan Tudyk, Adele DeWitt is evil hot, the guy who played Victor is an amazing actor and…November is gorgeous and not stick thin, so I loved that.
#teamng
Adele DeWitt leaving sucked. Summer Glau is way overrated no doubt. Dushku just didn’t have the range at all for what they wanted her to due. Victor by far was the best thing about that show.
These hands will always be rough
I’m sick of everybody talking about DeWitt leaving! That is so last year!!! :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw his biography
He isn’t very nice to his friends.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, it's the guy who plays Jesse Eisenberg in real life.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
“My first move? Get ready for the Los Angeles Likes.”
Cap insignia is the thumbs-up symbol.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Winklevoss twins had this idea like 23 minutes ago
by lchristmas on Apr 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
I would rec this if
it had said “Winklevii”.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It comes as so surprise that this does nothing to change my feelings about the 2011 and 2012 seasons.
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Meh, it probably went without saying, and I probably shouldn’t have said it.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
causation, correlation???
please show your math
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
More like without anyone steering the ship
Rubby, Sands, and Gordon will be traded at the deadline for Bartolo Colon.
ok, now we’re getting ahead of ourselves.
Need a closer
Sands for Dotel
Gordon for Sherrill
by lchristmas on Apr 20, 2011 3:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
on a personal note
I was a Yankee fan in my previous life (aka. my childhood). This is the second time that a team I rooted for has been taken from its owner by the commissioner. I just hope we don’t see a picture of McCourt on the cover of Sports Illustrated, dressed like Napolean, in 2014!
You know what gets me annoyed
When a bunch of people who did not experience this hands on wants to chime in with how great this news is.
You know what, it stinks. It stinks when your favorite team is a punchline.
It stinks because I am not sure in the end that Frank McCourt is that much different than any other professional sports owner.
It stinks because if Selig wanted to do this, why not in the off-season when it could made some difference, not now when the payroll is set and bills are due.
It stinks because every other team’s fan get to say “Well at least our team isn’t the Dodgers.”
It stinks.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 14 recs
You know what, it stinks. It stinks when your favorite team is a punchline.
On the list of teams who are punchlines, we’re not near the top. The Pirates haven’t been .500 in 20 years, the Royals are a joke praying for 2015, the Cubs get to laugh at Soriano for three more years, it goes on. every team has their issues. We just might be the flavor of the week.
It stinks because I am not sure in the end that Frank McCourt is that much different than any other professional sports owner.
They may all be rich guys who want to show off their money, but at least 28 of the other 30 can pay their bills.
It stinks because every other team’s fan get to say "Well at least our team isn’t the Dodgers
If they say this, they’re jealous of our past success and are just kicking us while we’re down.
This is good news because it’s short term loss, long term gain. I understand the “devil you don’t” argument. But it’s hard to have an owner who is worse than one who literally can’t pay the players.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
The two NLCS I have rooted for is more than a lot of my friends from Chicago have been able to root for. It’s all context.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
by G.Scott on Apr 20, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You rooted for 2. They rooted for 1. Not a huge difference.
Fuck their whining about Bartman.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
But all this has been true for a while now
This is great news to me, because it shows the league cares about what happens with the Dodgers. Sure it’s for it’s own selfish purposes, but it cares all the same- just like it did with the Yankees almost a generation ago. You can’t IMAGINE down everyone in New York was around the time that Big Stein got kicked out by Fay Vincent, and we all know what happened next.
Bottom line- I’m greatful that the Dodgers matter enough for the problems to be addressed. Be thankful that we’re not Pirate fans.
I am not sure in the end that Frank McCourt is that much different than any other professional sports owner.
This is untrue in more ways then I can count, but we can start with: not liquid, in the middle of a very messy divorce, plundered the team, lived well above his means, and is now paying the consequences. Who are the other owners that have done this? He may have a few analogues, but he’s definitely not a normal 21st century professional sports owner.
by LA Taco on Apr 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only reason we know about his
personal expenses was because of the divorce. What about the teams that got revenue sharing money but pocketed it and never spent it on their team. What about owners who have a lot of money and then choose not to spend it.
I don’t mean to make him out like a saint, I am just pretty sure that he wasn’t Public Enemy No. 1 either.
Deadspin out them and Josh Johnson got a great contract out of it.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I know what you mean. Though all I could think of was this everytime you wrote "Its stinks."
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(mintxcore would rec this if he were here)
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"It stinks"
always reminds me of this.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 20, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
(Humma Kuvula would rec this if he were here)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Without even clicking, I know it’s Lobachevsky! And I rec’d it!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
MLB is to blame for allowing McCourt to buy the team with a credit card, and the continued farce of the divorce just kept nailing it in all offseason. This is extremely disturbing news, and the timing is terrible for the franchise and long term outlook of the team. I’m very upset over all of this. Thank you
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
I have to ask
Why do people think things would have been better if MLB said no to Frank back when he bought it? There were NO OTHER BUYERS. Frank had his faults, but at least he bought/financed/deferred us 2 really good teams in 08 and 09.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Eventually someone would have shown up, but it is worth remembering as we go forward there is not going to be a line of white knights.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Because McCourt wasn't a buyer either
The franchise was heavily leveraged at the time it was bought leaving no room for error off of land Frank owned in Boston. They did manage to have a successful run with some young players stepping up (along with getting Manny in a deal no one else wanted). This issue with McCourt was a matter of when not if. A more secure ownership would have come forward at some point if Fox wasn’t so wanting to just dump the team.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
There were no other buyers
because Fox insisted on a decade of undermarket value televison rights as part of the sale. If that was their condition and they couldn’t find a buyer with the enough capital to be credible, MLB should have made them keep the team until they made a more reasonable offer.
by silverlakebruin on Apr 20, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Queston from a Giants' fan
Is there anticipation that the dodgers would be forced to shed payroll to reduce expenses while their in this “receivership” or is it too early to tell?
The thong is, it happened.
I can't imagine why
The cash flow should be fine now that it isn’t being diverted to lawyers and boy toys
by lchristmas on Apr 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i don't know shit
but I assume they want to make sure the teams money stays with the team, and not to where ever he is sending it
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
dont think so?
rangers were in similar position and they traded for cliff lee last year, which took on money
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed.
I think this doesn’t point to the team being in any worse shape financially than it was, at least. Not sure about all the financials of course but as noted above, there will be less worry about money being diverted for legal fees and other off field stuff (and money spent on new position hires like Soboroff). So, sorry to disappoint you but… ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(last line aimed at goofus of course, not delias)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The good news is that they locked up Billingsley before this happened.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ethier, Kemp, and, to a lesser extent because he has more time, Kershaw. Are long-term deals with them now impossible, or just mostly impossible?
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Would you sign a long term deal without knowing who the new owners might be?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
my (un?)educated guess
it’s no worse, and possibly even better, than before this happened. Look how much the Rangers offered Cliff Lee after their financial debacle!
But in the case of the Rangers, after the new ownership was already in place, yes? The Dodgers’ situation is going to be different and will probably take a long time to resolve.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
I don’t think it will be different, and I bet they have more bidders.
These hands will always be rough
I was under the impression that Hicks basically gave up on trying to keep the team, making a sale a complicated but inevitable event.
If McCourt tries to keep the team, it will be different.
But I could be just plain wrong about Hicks and the Rangers.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier was never going to get extended anyway
Kemp and Kershaw is definitely a concern.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll have roughly $43 million on payroll next year. We’ll have enough to lock both up. According to Cots
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Cot’s is a dirty lying whore (in this case)
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/30/1840626/dodgers-payroll-worksheet
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
In any case, we can extend Kemp next season
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
If this is resolved by then. I am not optimistic about anything and certainly not that.
Your 2012 closer: Matt Gurrier.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric says we’ll have $41.8 million in 2013, plenty of money to spend.
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh, this is a case of look at the same chart and see different things. Yeah, the dodgers will have about that much… but need a C, 1B, SS, 3B, CF, RF, two SP, and an entire bullpen. Sure, some of that will come from the farm and be cheap, and $60 million is a lot of money, but that is most of a team that they have to buy.
This also assumes that the payroll is somewhere around $100 million, which may or may not be a safe assumption. I have no idea what 2013 is going to look like now.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
this is where my paper comes in handy
in my world, Dre, Kemp, and Kershaw are extended
two SP: RDLR, Z. Lee
C: lol
1B: Jerry Sands
SS: Dee
3B: lol
CF: Bison
RF: Trayvon
LF: Dre
Yeah, this means that a bunch of prospects are going to have to pan out, but we could get some guys to play Catcher and SS, if not 1B (assuming Sands goes to LF and Dre reaches FA)
#teamng
Well, sure. If Rubby, Lee, Gordon, and Robinson all pan out, that solves a whole lot of problems.
I was gonna add Sands to that list, but he’s already in the majors. I guess I could say “assuming he does not regress” but that’s a little too negative even for me.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless they turned out to set the house on fire and won 90 games.
But other than that, yeah.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
well
that’s why you gotta get big name people as FAs. If Sands does become a LF, you can try for Prince Fielder.
And by that time, if Kemp and Kershaw aren’t legit stars in their own right, we’re pretty much fucked anyway. I’d come to see Kemp and Kershaw and Billz and Sands. Oh, and Fielder and Yadier.
#teamng
Dre is extended? Too expensive for the downside of his career.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I made this very case all by myself a couple weeks ago and got universally reamed for it!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
His platoon splits and defense are reason enough
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Ya don’t have to convince me! Everybody else was like “he’s the Dodgers’ best hitter” and “he’s on the short list of outfielders who have put up an 850 OPS over the last three years” and I was all by my lonesome fending them off!
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
because I was doing it very quickly and found I could still afford him
so I shrugged and said why not.
#teamng
Just because I was critical is not universal reaming
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Just hyperbole. Sorry about that.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I may not have been around, but in conversations with you, the one area I particularly disagree is your haste to trade him. I don’t think the Dodgers get anything back that’ll make it worth it and in the meantime I like watching the Dodgers put out a somewhat competent lineup. But when his time is up, he gone.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Who do you replace him with then?
The argument is that there isn’t anyone out there to replace his bat with, so we don’t really have much of a choice.
These hands will always be rough
I don’t know. He’ll cost more than what Dunn got last year, so you look for a bit more bang for your buck.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s better then Dunn
Good hitting outfielders don’t grow on tree’s. I’m extending him.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Dre is a good hitting 1B who plays RF.
That being said, I’m not sure why “extend him” has to mean 6 years and not 3. I’d pay him for 3.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Because somebody will give him more than 3
And that is the problem
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
But would Dre take it? If I’m him, I wait out ’11 and ’12 and then look for Werth money.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He "plays" RF
he must be a good defender
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All-Star CF according to Jerry ‘Fuckwad’ Manuel
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that I expect consistency
but if he truly believed that he could be DFAed at any moment, then he would jump to sign a 3/40 contract for the guarantee. Which he won’t.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
guaranteed money is a helluva drug.
The bigger issue is, if we extend him, he’ll have nothing to motivate himself with and will suck.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Let me piss on the mood here
I was overjoyed when Frank came in, “anything better than Fox” I declared
Careful.
I am pretty sure we are not inherting a land flowing with milk and honey. Another rich asshole is queued up for our future. Maybe less a jerk than this one, maybe more
Careful
ok, now go back to the party
Just goes back to picking the Devil you know or the one you don’t.
I’m happy to roll the dice with one I don’t know.
roll the dice
Only way to win that game is not to play. You play that game long enough and you will surely lose.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well hopefully the next one sticks and makes us happy. It’s 50/50.
I for one was not enamored with the idea of having the McCourt family own my favorite sports team for the rest of my life.
You didn't like the McCourts?
Hard to tell
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
We already lost. We’re hoping the next one is a winner.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
McCourt did a lot of good things
he did a lot of bad things too. He WAS better then Fox
These hands will always be rough
I'm not sure what the reaction in the press and among the fans was when FOX bought the team
but in the books I’ve been reading, it was very clear Fox was more interested in keeping Disney/ESPN out than anything else. It seems now that the McCourts just wanted to buy a baseball team and managed to do it in Los Angeles.
Imagine if their bid to buy the BoSox had been successful!
#teamng
at least fox never did this
These hands will always be rough
by nolander on Apr 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I need a direct jack to my brain
to absorb all the posts this is generating.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Apr 20, 2011 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
I hear on Mason and Ireland Jaime states she is on Team Selig
TMZ says McCourts being audited by IRS
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
I would presume that since the team is probably collateral for the
loans, that MLB will still have to make sure all debt payments are made alone with other accounts payable. I would presume any expenditures for McCourt will be reviewed with a fine tooth comb but they cannot make him be a pauper either.
In order of importance today
1) John Ely’s near no-no
2) Luis Vazquez placed on DL with Rancho
3) MLB taking over
I hear Rancho can be career ending.
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by G.Scott on Apr 20, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Especially when Sandoval uses a KFC bucketful with his wheelbarrow of chicken wings
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Apr 20, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
larger # = more important, right?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
How was the attendance last night?
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41,000 something reportzed by Vinny.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Apr 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
I assume that was the paid attendance?
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Consider the source
It is TMZ, but they are reporting that the McCourts are under IRS investigation.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Frank has had better days
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I worked for the first half of 2010, continued to have a job at school, and then went back to school and got a learning credit.
So yes, I got a huge refund.
#teamng
This is all Fred Claire's doing
Trading Martinez for Desheilds was the end of the franchise and are still cursed I say!
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
I heard this crazy story about why he was traded
but its a secret
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Nothing is so big a secret that it can’t be anonymously bullshitted about on the internet.
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by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
lol?
petros and money basically said the only dodger employee with any cred is Ned.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
And THAT guy wears a piece. Just saying.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry if we don’t laugh
why are you here?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I was interested in hearing Dodgers fans' take on the McCourt news
I’ve posted here before and I’m hardly a troll. Is there a problem with that?
The thong is, it happened.
I have a problem with you being a Giants’ fan, but other than that. I got nothing.
You’re welcome to stay as long as you don’t mention Brian Wilson.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
"secret agent ned"
means “haha, Ned was a Asst GM to the Giants and now hes completely fucking your team up by signing ex giants” Pretty lame IMO
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(mutters under breath)
Isn’t that what Ned is doing?
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure I don’t need a Giants fan to remind me of that. You post that on MCC, and you’ll somehow get banned midpost..
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just cos MCC is full of bitches of jackasses
doesn’t mean we need to emulate them when a Giant fan comes over.
#teamng
by Maddz on Apr 20, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummmm...no
I’’ve been moderator at McC for five years and a comment like that would absolutely not get you banned
We ban people for personal attacks, racist, homophobic and sexist remarks. If fans of other teams come over, they’re welcome to talk ball as long as they’re not trolls.
My “agent Ned” comment was not “ha ha” at Dodger fans, but rather mocking the people that said he has the most cred in the organization.
The thong is, it happened.
As a mod here
I think the original comment may have been a bit too terse for the intended meaning to come across clearly. No harm done.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Why is BW verboten?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s just a joke. With his beard and the commercial it is considered overplayed.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ah. I may get shot around here for saying it, but BW is the only Giants player I actually kinda like. I wish I could imagine someone goofy and kinda ridiculous yet still very good at baseball like that on the Dodgers, but, and I hate to say it, our whole team vibe has felt kinda humorless and cold since the Fox era.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
we would probably love him if he came up in our system.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’m saying he probably wouldn’t be allowed to be a goofy, crazy character like this if he were in our organization. Do you think Torre and Mattingly would indulge that kind of thing? Or Grumpy Old Man Jeff Kent, back in the day?
I could be completely off, and maybe the Dodger clubhouse is a loose, fun place, but it sure doesn’t seem that way from the outside.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Counterpoint
Joe Beimel.
Atmosphere has been reported to be better this spring. That was before the losses started mounting though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't some over here to gloat or say neener neener
I really haven’t followed the McCourt thing closely…had no idea he had to get a personal loan to make payroll…and was curious if you all hated him as much as my Dodger fan friends.
The thong is, it happened.
Yeah, I’d say most of us probably do have a lot of dislike for all things McCourt.
And I wasn’t saying you were here to stir up trouble, but as a Giants fan it’s gotta be somewhat satisfying to come over here and soak up the collective agita of your Dodger counterparts.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 21, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly
I LOVE it when the Giants beat the Dodgers on the field, but this is one of those things that’s much bigger than the rivalry. A team in dissary is bad for the rivalry and bad for the game.
From the reading I’ve been doing, everyone will be better off the sooner McCourt is out.
The thong is, it happened.
Shaikin
confirmed that in the end, MLB guarantees all contracts so the players have no worries about being paid.
Gary Toebben, the president and CEO of the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce, said he thinks the takeover may be for the best, given the franchise’s recent troubles.
“This has been like watching a soap opera unfold,” he said. “We want a financially solvent Dodgers. We want a winning team.”
“The Dodgers are part of the heart and soul of the community,” he continued, noting that the team brings in money to Los Angeles in hotels, restaurant and advertising dollars.
The worst-case scenario, he said, would be the Dodgers leaving Los Angeles.
“Franchises move in Major League Baseball,” he said. “But I would expect that with the history of the Dodgers in this community, they will stay.”
This guy makes Ethier look like he knows what the fuck is going on
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Christ Almighty!
What a fucking bombshell!
People happy? People sad? People indifferent?
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Oh Yeah
I’d say indifferent is totally the word of the day
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The super cynical would say so
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Too big, too sudden
Still in shock
Film at 11
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Today was the colonoscopy we all knew was coming but tried to put off until we absolutely had to do it.
In the end, today probably helps us, but our ass will still feel sore for a while.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
hahaha!
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
true dat
wait to all you suckers are 45!!!!
wait a minute, I’m not 45….
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec!
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Frank is the one who got reamed, we were simply watching, no pain here.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
How long did it take for the Rangers situation to get resolved from this point?
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Did the Rangers ever get taken over by MLB?
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting point, when it became clear the team would be auctioned off, or sold.
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wikipedia says
On January 22, 2010, Hicks Sports Group officially reached a formal agreement to sell the Texas Rangers to the group headed by Greenberg and Ryan (now called Rangers Baseball Express) for approximately $570 million.15 Under the provisions of the deal, former owner Hicks stayed on as a limited minority partner, but was not allowed to retain a seat on the board of governors. Other minority partners included Dallas businessman Ray Davis, and Ft. Worth businessman Bob Simpson.15 Hicks also sold much of the land surrounding Rangers Ballpark to Rangers Baseball Express in a separate deal.
The deal was subject to approval by the other MLB owners (a 3/4 vote is required) and completed by April 1. However, one of HSG’s principal lenders (Monarch Alternative Capital) opposed the sale on grounds that the proceeds would not fully repay the defaulted HSG notes.16 On April 21, Major League Baseball issued a statement declaring the Rangers’ sale to be under the control of the Commissioner to expedite the process.1718 Because of public comments made by Hicks deemed detrimental to the process, MLB also stripped Hicks of any responsibility regarding the sale of the team.19 On May 13, MLB threatened to seize control of the rest of the team’s operations if a deal was not completed by the deadline set by the Commissioner.20
As the stalemate between HSG and its creditors continued, on May 24, 2010 the Texas Rangers filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.2122 As of that date, the Rangers and HSG had an estimated debt of $575 million.22 Much of the unsecured debt was owed in back salary. Officially, New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez topped the list of unsecured creditors with an estimated $24.9 million owed by the Rangers.22 Additionally, the Rangers also owed Baltimore Orioles pitcher Kevin Millwood $12.9 million, and current Rangers third baseman Michael Young $3.9 million.22 At a press conference, the Greenberg-Ryan group proposed to buy the team for $575 million.22 The sale would repay all the team’s creditors, including players owed back salary.22
After several attempts to resolve the deal fell through, the bankruptcy court ordered a public auction to be held on August 4. The Greenberg/Ryan bid would be the opening bid, and other offers (subject to MLB approval) would have to be submitted by the prior day in order to be considered. At the auction, only one other MLB-approved group submitted an offer – Radical Baseball LLC, a group formed by Houston businessman Jim Crane (who was previously unsuccessful in buying the Houston Astros) and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban (who was previously unsuccessful in buying the Chicago Cubs). The auction lasted until the early morning of August 5, with the winning bid submitted by Greenberg/Ryan. The bankruptcy court approved the bid later that morning and the bankruptcy case closed. The sale to the Greenberg/Ryan was approved by all 30 MLB owners at the owners meeting in Minneapolis on Thursday August 12.
"I’ll be the managing partner and CEO. If you like what’s going on or you don’t like what’s going on, I take responsibility for that. When it comes to baseball, I’m not going to interject my opinions. If Nolan and [Jon Daniels] want to discuss something with me, they can, but I have complete faith and trust in the decisions that they make. I’ll be as involved as they wish me to be, but with complete faith and confidence in them.
What I’m going to focus on, particularly since the baseball side is in great shape, is the business side. How do we connect with the community? How do we create a higher tempo of energy in the front office? How can we do a better job of filling the stands and make an impact on people’s lives? If we succeed on the business side and continue on path on the baseball side and combine it with a dynamic market like this is, we can be and should be one of the powerhouse franchises in baseball.23"
—Chuck Greenburg
The new ownership group of Chuck Greenberg and Nolan Ryan—called Rangers Baseball Express—will have Greenberg serving as managing general partner and Ryan as club president.24
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I read through that and I see the place where MLB THREATENS to take control of the team, but not the part where they actually do it.
Because of public comments made by Hicks deemed detrimental to the process, MLB also stripped Hicks of any responsibility regarding the sale of the team.19 On May 13, MLB threatened to seize control of the rest of the team’s operations if a deal was not completed by the deadline set by the Commissioner.20
Did MLB end up taking control of the team?
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the Dodgers are now under MLB control.
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We’re talking about the Rangers.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m talking about an optomistic time line, using the Rangers scenario as a reference point.
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought so, but now not sure
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Yes, they took over the sale. I see that. But it is unclear if they ever took over day-to-day operations of the Rangers.
As far as I can tell, the Dodgers are a completely different case from the Rangers, in that the owner actively wanted to sell and the only issue was the price when MLB took over one aspect of the operation of the club (that is, the sale). As far as I know, I think it’s safe to assume that Frank would like to be able to hold on to his club.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB oversaw their financial operations, yes.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
No, they didn't.
Baseball officials could not recall another instance in modern times in which the commissioner’s office seized control of a team from its owner. Before Tom Hicks sold the Rangers last year, Selig appointed MLB executive John McHale Jr. to monitor the Rangers but technically left Hicks in charge of the franchise while McHale worked behind the scenes.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
They had to approve their signings and trades though.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough. However, I think my larger overall point remains: there are a lot of reasons why we shouldn’t be looking at the Rangers as an analogy.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It also says
Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig told Frank McCourt he will appoint a trustee to oversee all aspects of the business and the day-to-day operations of the club. Frank McCourt, however, has retained Sullivan & Cromwell and was preparing to sue MLB, a baseball executive familiar with the situation told the Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because McCourt had not made any statements.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Shocked, shocked.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Perfect
Bend over, fans, this won’t hurt a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit…. Oh doc, when does that anesthetic kick in again?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
When I was at Sonoma we convinced this guy (hitter, of course) that part of the physical was a rectal exam, and that the trainer gave them. The trainer is roughly 6’4" 300lbs and has huge hands. We told him to make sure when he gave the exam that he only had one hand on his shoulders when giving the exam, not both hands.
The dude was sweating walking into the trainers room. Hilarious.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
This is the part that had me LOL
(hitter, of course)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
haha
yeah i already do this. so nothing would change
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
I could be our french teacher :p
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
It would be tragic though
The LA logo is one of the best designs
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
not a fan
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
I’m with Maddz. It’s a great logo.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the Angels could take it then...
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
“The Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
With a halo above the A
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Plan a move to Charlotte in 5 years.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Does it means the Dodger's owner will change?
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
Anyone has an idea who could own the team after Mc Court will sell it?
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
Tony Stark
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
lol
So much win.
I want an owner that can invent his own money.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Apr 20, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say, Probably eventually, but with the signifcant possibility that this could drag on for a long, long time, with things getting worse before they get better.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey
Mr. F was here for a moment.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Jon with a heck of a line for us old guys
I remember when President Nixon had to announce his resignation, and on a personal level, this feels no less momentous.
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
On the topic of contraction
What would happen to the players on those teams? Would they become free agents or divided up among the remaining teams?
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
This ain’t ever happening
ever
ever
ever
ever
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I have a question
Ever?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ever.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha.
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
When contraction was being discussed before
I think it was said there would be a dispersal draft.
You have to love Roberto Baly
but he is the Tripon of tweets about Dodger news not involving an off-field appearance.
How many commenters do we have here?
If everyone threw in some money we could get a majority stake.
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in a pizza, and it would be a medium
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Apr 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
On a side note, I’d totally throw 5k down with 10 of you to start a pizza place.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
that' what I'm doing next
when I tire of airplanes and suits
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You think you can start a pizza place with $50,000?
My buddy in paris needed — oh, I don’t remember, but a lot more than that. Five or ten times that.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
you need a bunch – the right wood burning oven can run over that easily
but you can also open on the cheap with a used gas oven and small space
by Hollywood Joe on Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
overhead in Paris even higher than LA, n’est-ce pas?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would guess so, sure. Just saying — with that data point my only knowledge on the subject — $50,000 seems like not a lot of money.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
mostly I made up a number. I would have said $10k with 40 of you to buy a Subway chain, but that seems less likely.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
you can buy a run down shithole for that much
but you need a lot more to get the place in good condition. i’m actually basing this off the owner of the pizza place I worked at doing this in the last month.
These hands will always be rough
I’ll search the couch cushions
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe we can borrow it from Fox
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Because I treasure the Human Comendy more than my baseball team
I love every part of this story
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Tough to make this stuff up and have anyone believe it?
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The downside of this
is I have one more competitor in the job market
Dick
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Same bosses
different suits mostly.
Budgets get scrutinized by people who don’t really know the business.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Didn’t you hear? Game was postponed due to a day of WTF?
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh,
Tonight’s game is part of my 14 game package.
Attending the first night of another new era in Dodgers History!
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
2011-?
The Era that MLB ran the Dodgers. Boy that sucks
Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think
From ESPN's story
Selig said he will appoint his representative within a few days. Former Atlanta Braves and Washington Nationals chief executive Stan Kasten is a possible candidate, the person familiar with Selig’s thinking said. Reached by telephone, Kasten declined comment.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6397488
He wasnt the GM, I know that much
Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think
Sam Kennison – RIP
Can I have my balls tonight ?
by 68elcamino427 on Apr 20, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What if new guy fires Ned and wants to hire someone with a history in the game.
Someone like Jim Bowden.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
it wouls be
Afghan troops this, Afghan troops that….
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
He sounds terrible
in the new radio commercials.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
if Vin is like your grandpa telling you baseball like a bedtime story
Tommy is like the drunk old uncle that has funny stories but says “fuck” too much
#teamng
by Maddz on Apr 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You can never say that too much. Unless you are Tupac in Hit em Up. that gets downright uncomfortable
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
you can enjoy the lyrics here
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/hitemup.html
Yes - I am on Team Frank.
haha
spot on
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
I have nothing to back this up with
but I suspect he’d also be the uncle that groped you a little, but you were never really sure if he meant it
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Uncles everywhere
resent this stereotype
zips up pants
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
down from 27k
I thought that was very interesting
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Cram it up your cram hole, lafleur
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/mlb-takes-over-dodgers/
Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think
hahaha
oh noes!
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Hey kids, Don’t write and toke. Get a friend to be the designated writer.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
you both are making me want to buy it, but if i do i will play Portal 2 and not write these papers.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I have 16, be jealous. Sometimes going to a school that expects less out of its students has benefits.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what you get for majoring in liberal arts
I probably wrote a total of 16 pages my entire college career.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
She’s libs, he’s Psych, and my short answer and multiple choice finals say “Business”
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
I majored in Comp Sci
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
i have to sit here and pretend to work for an hour and 15 more minutes
its going to be horrible.
These hands will always be rough
Aside from that 30 page policy analysis paper (that was supposed to be a group project last semester but I ended up writing myself because my group members had trouble with putting things like ‘verbs’ and ‘punctuation’ in their section) All my papers have been short-ish.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
the one I’m working on now is the shortest, at 7 pages. The next shortest is likely about 15 or so pages. All 20+ pagers from there.
#teamng
Suckerrrrrrrr
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
My interpretation of today's news
Dodgers = Minas Tirith
by The Dude Abides on Apr 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions
Obviously
Needs portable concessions
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Ladies and Gentlemen...
your 2011 Middle Earth Fighting Dodgers!
Braves lineup
Prado LF
Heyward RF
Jones 3B
McCann C
Uggla 2B
Freeman 1B
Gonzalez SS
McLouth CF
Lowe P
Eric works while Rome burns!!! Such professionalism! Great job…
by wonderphenom on Apr 20, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
So, if the stadium sold out tonight
That would be kind of interesting.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
And MLB = all those dead dudes that Viggo dredged up?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Casey Blake
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
It's very slimming
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Selig DOES look a little zombie like
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
He's less undead that Al
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Look at that parking mess
When are they gonna tear that fucking castle down and build a downtown one? And maybe have a train stop there too.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
HAHAHAHA
oh well done. I am cracking up
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Couldn't get that gif to post
But it sure is fun to imagine Frank as Denethor
by The Dude Abides on Apr 20, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't it be cool
(and a bit sentimental) if Paul Giamatti got together with some friends and bought the club?
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Apr 20, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions
why?
Am I missin something?
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
Paul’s dad used to be the commissioner of baseball.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
No fuck
I had no idea they were related. None at all, mind blown
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Woah
I did not know they were related. Cool
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
The beacons were lit...
…by TBLA, MOKM, MSTI, SOSG, and Dodger Thoughts
by The Dude Abides on Apr 20, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
@MikeSciosciasTI RT @JimBowdenXMFox: Doing interview w Loney, Blake yelled he was late for stretching he said " I don’t have an owner, I can do what I want"I think Bowden means Loney said that in reply to Blake.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 20, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That Loney is a strange bird
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
This is why
I hope Loney bounces back. He’s pretty much accidentally awesome.
I almost miss the joke about releasing Loney for insubordination that Joey would have made here.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry Bowa thinks it will end up distracting Matt Kemp
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes!!!
Love for Larry to head a new ownership group!
by wonderphenom on Apr 20, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
We could have a skeleton contest between Al and Larry
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
No kidding
Dude really looks like the crypt keeper in person. I am shocked he is mobile. If ever there is a life action Simpsons movie, Larry has GOT to play Mr Burns
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
News gets better and better
Incriminating photos of Jamie McCourt surface during divorce hearings
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Meme-off!
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
So, aside from the apparent financial shenanigans
What is the McCourt legacy in concrete terms?
- Added a bunch of high-priced seats, good for revenue, even if the slope is a little shallow for good sight lines
- Remodel/refurbished the field level
- Various other stadium upgrades, e.g.,, seat replacement, new video boards
- Camelback Ranch (I probably never get to ST without the move)
- Four playoff teams, two NLCS trips
- Bloggers with press access
It remains to be seen if the debt is so bad that it is crippling to new ownership for awhile.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Does he get credit
for bringing back the Dodger vets into the fold? I had heard when Fox bought the team, guys like Koufax et al were shunned and they were pissed. Frank reportedly made the effort to court them back
"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST
you can’t make me.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
then you run the risk of looking silly like mintxcore down there.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I ALWAYS look silly. I have posted maybe 4,000 times on this blog, and have maybe 12 posts with any substance.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s 12 more than me. Though I do have several dozen limericks over you.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
don’t sell yourself short, you have at least 10-15 posts of substance.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess
that Green Necklace project isn’t going to happen anytime soon.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I'm pissed
that I couldn’t get the Denethor = Frank .gif to post…trying one more time
by The Dude Abides on Apr 20, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not saying he deserved it, because I believe violence is a stupid way to resolve conflicts
But that guy is a douche.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Waaaiiit
The guy poisoned some revered trees and the on the prosecution side:
District Attorney Robbie Treese
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 20, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One of us! One of us! One of us!
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably a conflict of interest there.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d always assumed he’d killed the tree’s. Sounds like that is not the case, so good to hear the 130 year old oaks might survive. I do have a liking for 100 year old Oaks. Planted one in my front yard about 15 years ago, fine looking specimen right now.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
@dylanohernandez Ned Colletti said he still hasn’t spoken to anyone at MLB. Doesn’t know to whom he will report. #Dodgers
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Why? MLB dropped their bombshell. Unless Ned is out there trying to sign a free agent or make a trade today — which I guess is possible — then he can wait until tomorrow.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Your boss gets fired
and no one tells you or tells you who to report to. Seems pretty shitty.
These hands will always be rough
I have had this happen. More than once.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
M e too
It’s shitty, but common
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Eh
In my world, that usually happens with “line” managers, not “project” managers, so it doesn’t really affect day-to-day operations. Usually means one less person pointlessly pinging my ass. Net positive!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
are you using the new cover sheet for the TPS reports?
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Shitty, but not unusual. Happens allllllllllllllllllll the time.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
i didn't say it was unusual I said its messed up
So you agree with me?
These hands will always be rough
Sure do!
Clink!
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure Ned had a big trade all lined up that would have affected anything MLB is overseeing, too. :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he lost Kim’s number?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Typical Selig
I’m taking over the operation of the Dodgers but we don’t have the person in place to actually do this. Oh and Frank locked us out so not sure how we are are going to run the operation from the Bonaventure but we will figure it all out.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Maybe they will end up having a representative “oversee” things and leave everything else status quo aside from having MLB sign off on financial transactions (which I guess is basically everything)?
I would guess that is the case. But they will have to take on a bigger role if this stretches into the offseason/next year: that is, setting payroll.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I suspect
the baseball ops people will be around awhile. Unless Colletti was somehow in cahoots with McCourt on shady stuff, I can see scenarios where the MLB rep just sets Ned’s budget and goes from there.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
In a way, that would be the simplest & easiest way for MLB to go.
by wonderphenom on Apr 20, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
do i want food truck lot or taco trucks tonight? or something else?
this is waht i think about at 5pm.
Finally!
what were you even doing all day?
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Apr 20, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
First Mubarak
Then McCourt, your going down Kadafi!!!!
I feel like I should be celebrating, even though this is the baseball equivalent of having the state take your kids away from you.
WHEHHHEEEEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Purgatory is a step up from hell!!!
by Cool Dudes on Apr 20, 2011 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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