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Dodgers Week 1 In Review: Starting Off On The Right Foot

Matt Kemp was the Dodger offense in the first four games.

The Dodgers opened their season with the rival Giants, and got things off to a good start, winning three out of four games. The season starting mid-week has thrown things off a bit, and we open with a "week" that is really just a four-game weekend set. But whatever it was, it was good for the Dodgers.

Dodger Batter of the WeekMatt Kemp is the clear winner here, as he was the offensive star of the opening four game series. Kemp hit .417/.533/.833, which blew everyone else away, and he had three of the seven Dodgers' extra-base hits and three of the nine Dodger walks. The Dodgers have one home run and one stolen base through four games, and Kemp has them both.

Dodger Pitcher of the Week: Just as Kemp was the easy choice for batter of the week, Clayton Kershaw is the clear pick for pitcher of the week. Kershaw was magnificent on opening night, throwing seven scoreless innings, allowing just five baserunners while striking out nine.

Week 1 Record:  3-1
13 runs scored (3.25 per game)
19 runs allowed (4.75 per game)
.333 pythagorean winning percentage

Star-divide

Quality Is Job One: The five starting pitchers the Dodgers started spring training with (including Jon Garland, who is currently on the disabled list) combined for 103 quality starts in 2010, which would have tied Oakland for the major league lead. So far this season, the Dodgers have had three quality starts and won all three games. Then again, the Giants also had three quality starts in four games, and they lost two of them.

039_mediumSouthpaw Starters Two Decades Apart: Kershaw made his first career opening day start on Thursday night, and was the first left-hander to open the season for the Dodgers since Fernando Valenzuela in 1988. That season ended pretty well for the Dodgers. Valenzuela actually opened this season too, throwing out the ceremonial first pitch to a loud ovation before Thursday's game.

Worth The Wait?: The Dodgers did not hit a home run until the fourth game of the season, with Matt Kemp breaking the ice with a first-inning home run Sunday night off Barry Zito. Kemp's home run came in the Dodgers' 109th plate appearance of the season, the longest the team has had to wait for its first home run since 1996, when Billy Ashley hit home run number one in the 109th PA of the season. The last time the Dodgers waited until their fourth game to hit their first home run was 2002.

Taking One For The Team: Lance Cormier had a 6.00 ERA for the week, but I considered making him an honorable mention for pitcher of the week. Why? Well, because the Dodgers were down 8-0 on Saturday after six innings, and relievers Mike MacDougal and Kenley Jansen were already used. The Dodgers needed somebody to eat up innings at the end of the game to preserve the bullpen, and Cormier obliged. He threw 42 pitches and allowed two runs, but he got through those three innings without the Dodgers having to burn another reliever. "You hope you don't need it," Mattingly said of the mopup work, "but when you get it, it saves your bullpen." In fact, the Dodgers went into Sunday night with a full compliment of relievers available (outside of Jansen and Cormier).

Sin On Saturday, Repent On Sunday: In 2010, the Dodgers lost four games on a Saturday by a margin of eight or more runs. In each instance, the Dodgers came back to win on Sunday. The same thing happened at Chavez Ravine on Saturday, as the Dodgers were battered by the Giants 10-0, and the Dodgers came back to win 7-5, and take the series.

Transactions: None this week, the first week of the season, but the Dodgers did open the year with five players on the disabled list: Casey Blake, Vicente Padilla, Garland, Jay Gibbons, and Dioner Navarro.

Game Results:

Upcoming Week: After four games at Dodger Stadium, the Dodgers head out for an eight-game road trip through most of the NL West. This week brings trips to Colorado and San Diego, but also brings two off days, the only non All-Star week this season with more than one off day.

Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun
4
Off
5
at Col
5:40pm
6
at Col
12:10pm
7
Off
8
at SD
7:05pm
9
at SD
5:35pm
10
at SD
1:05pm


Week 1 Stats

Player PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SB/CS BA/OBP/SLG OPS
Kemp 15 12 4 5 2 0 1 3 3 1/0 .417/.533/.833 1.367
Carroll 12 10 1 3 0 1 0 1 2 0/0 .300/.417/.500 .917
Thames 7 7 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 0/0 .286/.286/.571 .857
Furcal 12 12 2 4 1 0 0 2 0 0/1 .333/.333/.417 .750
Ethier 16 15 0 5 0 0 0 1 1 0/0 .333/.375/.333 .708
Uribe 8 7 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .286/.375/.286 .661
Barajas 13 12 1 3 0 0 0 0 1 0/0 .250/.308/.250 .558
Loney 16 15 1 2 1 0 0 2 0 0/0 .133/.125/.200 .325

Ellis 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 1.000/1.000/1.000 2.000
Paul 3 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .333/.333/.333 .667
Miles 9 9 2 2 0 0 0 1 0 0/0 .222/.222/.222 .444
Gimenez 5 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .200/.200/.200 .400
Gwynn 6 6 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .167/.167/.167 .333
DeJesus 8 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0/0 .000/.125/.000 .125

Pitchers 9 8 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0/0 .000/.111/.000 .111
Totals 140 129 13 32 4 2 1 11 9 1/1 .248/.300/.333 .633

 

Pitcher G W-L Sv IP H R ER BB K ERA WHIP FIP*
Kershaw 1 1-0 -- 7.0 4 0 0 1 9 0.00 0.714 1.06
Kuroda 1 1-0 -- 7.0 6 3 3 0 5 3.86 0.857 5.91
Billingsley 1 1-0 -- 6.0 5 3 3 1 4 4.50 1.000 5.03
Lilly 1 0-1 -- 4.2 6 4 4 1 3 7.71 1.500 2.56
Starters 4
3-1 -- 24.2 21
10 10 3 21 3.65 0.973 3.69
Guerrier 2 0-0 -- 1.1 1 0 0 2 1 0.00 2.250 6.20
Hawksworth 1 0-0 -- 1.0 2 0 0 1 2 0.00 3.000 2.20
MacDougal 1 0-0 -- 0.1 1 0 0 0 1 0.00 3.000 (2.80)
Kuo 2 0-0 -- 1.2 1 1 1 2 2 5.40 1.800 4.40
Broxton 3 0-0 3/3 3.0 3 2 2 0 1 6.00 1.000 11.20
Cormier 1 0-0 -- 3.0 2 2 2 1 2 6.00 1.000 7.20
Jansen 1 0-0 -- 1.0 4 4 4 2 2 36.00 6.000 5.20
Relievers 4
0-0
3/3 11.1 14 9 9 8 11
7.15 1.941 6.82
Totals 4
3-1 3/3 36.0 35 19 19 11 32 4.75 1.278 4.67
*FIP is estimated

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I will always call those "classic" Padres colors either

“Baby Crap” or “McDonald’s”. Get right on that, Crayola.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

So McDonalds was not always red and yellow?

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the brown McDonalds uniforms, so you must too

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

we didn’t go there when i was a kid.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

look at Oysters Rockafeller over here : )

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I didn’t either. So when I turned 16 and could drive, it was all double cheeseburgers, all the time. TAKE THAT MOM!

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

my silver spoon

preferred taco bell and carls back then.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

and a train inside the house.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

one of the worst shows ever, right?

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked it when I was young.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carlton should have danced more on that show.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Other then the Cosby Show and Malcom in the Middle I’ve found every show that had kids in it to be rank.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

hipster.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Times my parents took us to McDonalds

zero

Times my parents took us to Baskin Robbins

a zillion

They had their priorities in the right order

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the opposite, the only times I've gone there were when I was a kid.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need to pound the Rockies 12 – 0 to get our pythag straightened out.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Is Gibbons going to come back this week?
If so Blake and Gibbons, which two do we lose?
Ellis, IDJ, Paul, Gimenez have to be the candidates

I’m thinking Ellis and IDJ but Donny might have liked the luxury of three catchers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

No; Gibbons needs minor league rehab games first, starting Thursday
DeJesus for Blake, (sad to say) Paul for Gibbons
Hector is a candidate for Redding/Ely/Garland on Sunday

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

IDJ for Blake for sure

Ellis or Gimenez for the other move.
I don’t see them cutting Paul yet.
When Garland’s time comes though… and then Padilla… hrm, things get dicier.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

(But certainly Cormier could be cut, or, yes, Jansen sent down.)

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by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Mac has a negative 2.8 fips? Am I reading that right?

if so how is that possible?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

strike out half your batters, good things happen.

Also, many things don’t work in the extremes.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tie goes to the defendent.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blake comes back on Wednesday, yes?

cal: ***** |* |** lad: ****** lal: **************** cfc: **** gbp: *************
@CalLadLal | Ioco optimo delactamur

by CalLadLal on Apr 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

but I could be wrong

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would bet money that Blake starts Wednesday at Coors

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Corrs Field is it’s own brand of hyperbaric chamber.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

doesn’t he have awful day splits?

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo

.681

Nice call

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

but .814 last year FWIW

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe daytime baseball in Cleveland had a bad hitters eye.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t send Gibbons there!

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also a better player than Jamey Carroll, Aaron Miles, or Ivan DeJesus. He’s playing

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

At this point I would rather have Carroll hitting.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Blake fielding at 3rd

and Uribe back at 2nd where he’ll be of better use to Dodgers. And have Carroll spot starting like he should be. imho.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Between Old Man Blake, Fragile Man Furcal, and Fat Man Uribe, he’ll get plenty of work.

by Riffraffselbow on Apr 5, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp & Kershaw

All year long baby.

Also loved to see that triple by Thames.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 10:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Thames with an infield hit and the rare Dodger Stadium triple this weekend. Not a one-tool player after all!

by guy clinch on Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that was all Thames, had nothing to do with the RFer

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s why boxscores can be deceiving.

by guy clinch on Apr 4, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

right? if only boxscores had fullsize scorecards with them, and they showed the Magellan like path he took to try and get that ball

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was definitely in part due to Huff's serpentine route ;-)

but… to be fair Thames also did rip the snot out of that ball, it was almost off the wall. A very good outfielder likely catches it but it’s not like Thames didn’t hit it there. At any rate, I have faith Thames is gonna provide some offense for LA this year, though he’ll be streaky as usual.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Madsen’s agent must love this. Per www.baseballhq.com

"Can we necessarily rely on him? I don’t think so." That was GM Ruben Amaro’s recent assessment of the chances of Ryan Madson (RHP, PHI) filling in for injured closer Brad Lidge (RHP, PHI). In the same Philadelphia Inquirer column, the team’s pitching coach is quoted discussing Madson’s "anxiety" and how the game "speeds up on him" in the ninth inning.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

True, but you don’t usually get it spelled out like that by the GM, they usually couch those comments in a different way.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

“What do you want from me? He sucks,” Amaro added. “But I’m stuck with him. Unfortunately, I have no control over the decisions of which players are hired to play for this tea—— what do you mean, I’m the GM?”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the one who signed him to a $12mil/3 year deal. Free agent at the end of the year, so who knows.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is a lights out setup man, so that contract was not unreasonable for a team with lots of mullah.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 4, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

they aren’t saying he sucks always, just that he can’t be relied on in the 9th.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was unaware that Riyadh was fielding a MLB team.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right. He’s very good. Which is why I don’t get the argument. This idea that the ninth inning is a harder 1-inning outing than the other innings is ridiculous.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, LaTroy Hawkins.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, history has shown that excellent setup man don’t always make the transition to closer. Since we know they have the stuff in inability to excel in the new role, has to be mental. Why I have no idea but we can find more then one setup men with great peripherals who did not make the transition.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, I think guys like Hawkins and Madson are the exception rather than the rule, but some guys just can’t do it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

The argument is based on him being bad in the 9th inning

in real life. If he thinks its harder to pitch in the ninth, it may actually be harder for him to pitch in the ninth.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with all points heretofore

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

“I don’t know what you’re talking about. I had no control over that dea—- what do you mean, my signature is on the contract?,” said Amaro.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Dude has the cojones of an infant,” Amaro continued. “We tried to fake-trade him to Japan, but Japan was like ‘F that, we don’t even fake trade for pussies of that magnitude.’ So I’m stuck with this jackwad.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, the game speeding up on you as a pitcher is the worst feeling i’ve ever felt, athletically or otherwise. It’s like being stuck running on an endless treadmill that is going faster than you can keep up with, with no buttons to hit to slow it down and no way to get out of it except to keep running until someone else pulls the plug.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of this. (Page is rated PG for language, don’t vouch for anything else on the site)

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

YAY

I’m moving back to Los Angeles!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Congrats, does this mean acceptance?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

If so, does Pomona really count as Los Angeles?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

probably not, though it's in LA County

I’d likely be living at home…maybe?

Now I get to make fun decisions like, where do I live? Do I buy a car and commute? Do I try and get a job in the area around school, at school, whatever?

New things to obsess over, hooray!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

the preferred nomenclature is Claremont

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you implying that the meerkat is out of his element?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

my HS math teacher pronounced that word like Norman Claycha

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Norman Claycha was rejected by CGU.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

which ultimately led to his life of crime, selling meth in Riverside County

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

And now he pitches for the Giants under an assumed name.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dan Runzler

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes (and yes), although I would have accepted just about anybody in that bullpen.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

and thanks :)

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now I’m impressed

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha me too

they’re offering me a 30% fellowship, too, which is awesome.

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is the best news of all!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You get to become a “fellow”? Dave Stewart has his eyes on you.

I really have no idea what a fellowship is, but it is must be awesoke if you think it is awesome.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

just means they’re paying some of my tuition. It’s impressive because to be considered for institutional aid, you had to apply before Feb 1. I didn’t get my file complete by then, but because of my “academic promise”, they’re giving me money.

Hooray!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

It means she gets to hang out with hobbits and dwarves.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I already have Smeagol...

awww poor Bodhi, missing a toe and slinking around

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats! Claremont should be honored to have you.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maddzel tov :-)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

so what school accepted you

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Claremont Graduate University

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some people just aren't into meth

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maddz is going to miss those road kill dinners

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

so what did you think about the end of wrestlemania?

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t see it….what happened?

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry baseball fans....

miz and cena were laying outside the ring and ref counted them out and called the match. the rock came down and said it was not going to end like that. then the anonymous GM sent an email. the rock went to read it. told the the email it doesnt matter… had the fight resumed no holds no DQ, then he rock bottomed Cena, miz covered, got the belt, then finished miz with the peoples elbow.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

sweetness.

I need to find it online today. Couldn’t justify the $70 in my mind.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who writes this shit?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

i must admit. this anonymous GM bit is great

an email is sent to a laptop at a podium, and somebody has to go read it. I wish Frank would try this out.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think its funny as hell.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bodog let you bet on Wrestlemania. Don’t bet on professional wrestling.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

i would never consider it.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had to learn that lesson the hard way.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I was 12 years old, I watched The Destroyer and Freddie Blassie wrestle. I also watched Roller Derby, until I figured out that theer were only four teams, and they kept being from new cities.
Then I grew up.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big John

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa wait, are you telling me that professional wrestling is fake?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Next thing you know you guys are gonna be telling me The Office

is not a real documentary.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m one of those people who doesn’t like The Princess Bride partly because I can’t understand a word of what Andre the Giant is saying.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody want a peanut?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not understanding what Andre the Giant is saying is one of the great joys of The Princess Bride.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll have to try it again, although I think I’m allergic to Mandy Patinkin.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I admit to being very tired of Mandy Patinkin. Here’s how I get through it: whenever I see him, I remind myself that Christopher Guest is in the movie!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily the movie came out before he was over utilized

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That should more than make up for it: comic genius.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good God

Didn’t like the Toy Story franchise or Princess Bride………..

For strike three or a new lease on life did you enjoy Galaxy Quest?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You had a good run, kinbote.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worst comment ever.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I’ll try to have my movie likes/dislikes align more neatly with the norm.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I feel you. I’ve been the jackass defending Cars.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like Al Pacino in GF3. :)

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bobo Brazil!

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Destroyer ruled.

by silverwidow on Apr 4, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude I can’t hang with tornados. That’s some real serious business stuff.

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are no joke. Glad you are moving back to where you want to me.

Good for you.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

want to me = want to be

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know….I swear to God I’m harmless.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least you’re far enough to do no harm. I liked your “/cracks another beer” comment several threads ago. Sunday night is the new Friday night.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was the beauty of it. It was 11:00 on Sunday Night for me.

I had 2 more and woke up with a headache today.

Pain is just weakness leaving the body.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Recovery

1. Sleep
2. Caffeine
3. Pain pills
4. Water

For some reason, I do okay all week until Sunday rolls around . . .

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did 1-3.

Not a big water guy….

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome. Congrats.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

You'll like this

Scott, Gary madeleine got into Claremont and they’re spotting her a 30% scholarship for her “academic promise”

11:15 AMFerguson, Mike very good
what the heck does academic promise mean? signing a 18 year old with a 3 mil. bonus?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha. something like that yeah

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.
LookoutLanding:
The Angels are paying Scott Kazmir $12 million this year, or $480,000 per mile per hour

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Trade him for Lilly? :o

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly in at a whopping 136,000 per mph.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone know if the free preview of extra innings is still going on? debating lunch at home.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks it used to be the 1st week but since the week started on Thursday didn’t know what they would do. Don’t know why I care I end up getting it anyway but being me, I don’t do it until I must.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

10th or 11th of this month

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

keith

ate at a waffle house
did not have sweet tea
took my picture at the Ryman

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

You’re fuckin up not getting sweet tea dude…..

The Ryman is sweet

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve had sweet tea before, just not in Tennessee. I had sweet team when I visited Kansas a few years ago.

Also, had Shiner Bock. Quality stuff.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

and Yuengling. Best cheap beer I’ve had.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Butler + 3.5

Love the team, will be rooting for the team, would bet on UConn.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Stranger then fiction that Butler has the experience of playing in a Championship game not UConn.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

At some point, the attention needs to go to the Butler players themselves. Everyone talks about the mystique, the coach, the school. How about the actual guys playing ball? I imagine the coach is using this to full advantage in his pep talks (See: I’m doing it too!)

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

After you make both free throws…and you will make both free throws…

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Howard is a baller, but besides him, on talent, they don’t match up with the big boys. There’s gotta be something that’s got them here besides talent. They’re executing and they’ve had some luck (see also: coaching, “mystique”)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if luck follows you around for two years. At some point you’re just good.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does the coach not get credit for taking this team of players that none of the majors wanted and making them good?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely. He can write his own ticket after this season if he wants.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mack is pretty damn good.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, they have several fine players. But it’s not like UConn was picking between Mack and Kemba.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is obvious

but Mack carries the team as much as Howard who seems to get all the attention. Maybe because he is white and apparently a really weird guy.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Howard gets the extra pub because he stands out — he has goofy hair and looks somewhat awkward — more than because he is white. In the same way, Noah got the bulk of the pub for those Florida teams, even though Horford and Brewer were as crucial. Lee Humphrey was also pretty good and got almost no press, even though he was about as white as they come.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve only seen Butler play six games, Matt Howard has been great in all of them. All one and done games. Still waiting for a UCLA player to do that this century.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am rooting for them big time.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It needs to happen

So close last year. I swear I would rather poke out my eyes than have another BCS conversation here, but it might be good for changing that as well.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will withhold my opinion on this matter, lest we rehash that old debate again

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am aware of your position on the matter, Ms. Becker. :)

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

i hope Butler wins just to piss you off.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Butler wins, that way the NIT champ Wichita State has an equal claim to being the best team this year

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or CBI champ Oregon. Go Pac-(digits)!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Oregon: CBI champs baby!!!

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize Oregon had won until I heard they won. Some time I’ll watch the highlights. There was evidently a controversial backcourt call late in the game on [the other team]—and Oregon’s court has an “invisible” center court line!

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get that analogy?

Finishing second in the top NCAA hoops tournament would = winning the NIT?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.

I went to SF State. We barely have sports. But it also made me less biased when it comes to college sports.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worst baseball field in the CCAA. Fucking Gators.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty terrible. Hurts that they just hadn't had almost any athletic budget.

Which is sad for a school that actually long ago had a great tradition. Vic Rowen-coached football teams, track and field, even pretty decent hoops teams (Div II). Oh well.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Holmgren was the QB coach/Offensive Coordinator at SFSU for a bit in the 80’s too.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

all I am saying is that 28-9 with a tournament win and 29-8 win a tournament win are indiscernible

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

One tournament is a bit harder than the other one.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh I know, this devil’s advocate argument is not going over very well. I may start dancing as a distraction

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

One team would be acknowledged to be 2nd best in the country while winners of that other tourney (or any of those other tourneys) are quickly forgotten and considered (fair or not) to be more like the 60th best team in the country.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably closer to about 45th. There are a lot of crummy conferences, and an NIT winner has got to be considered at least as good as a 10 or 11 seed.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I wasn't sure what the number would be, agree that some of the fingey teams from tiny conferences

wouldn’t or shouldn’t be considered as good as Colorado or Wichita… but that sounds about right.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fringey, rather. Fingey sounds dirty.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Legit True or False question: if Hayward’s half-court bank shot goes in last year, Butler v. Duke is the greatest college basketball game of all-time?

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe “most memorable” is a better word choice here

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hard for anything to ever beat the NC State victory with Charles slamming in the air ball as time expired.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only because I was incredibly into the NC State run.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huge favorites. Almost like UNLV losing with Larry Johnson, Augmon, et al.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a shocking loss to Duke.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

My dad is convinced that game was fixed.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can get on board with that.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

i would like to hear his reasons.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Harvey Danger agrees.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But that’s the level we’re talking here.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, if it goes in, for this generation that has to be the game

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

True or False: I should feel bad for not knowing who Chris Mullin is.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

especially if you’re white.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or ugly

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know who Chris Mullin is!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice flat top dude.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shit, is my webcam on again?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

A thousand times true

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Drafted the year before I was born, so I’m pleading the 5th. I don’t remember any basketball pre-Eddie Jones/Nick van Exel.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Cooper knows who Chris Mullin is, and also knows Mullin should have had a flattop at all times.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes that link is safe for work, and awesome

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loved Coop

as good as the West/Goodrich/Wilt/Hairston/McMillen team was, easily my favorite Laker teams were the mid 80’s teams.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

SFW says you, DENIED ACCESS POLICY says my computer.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

He meant it’s safe if you are in the porn business.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

nah, youtube gets blocked here (thank god or I’d get even less work done), but I think I know the scene he’s linking.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

(He was just saying that)

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

hanging with Mr. Cooper, Coop tries out for the Warriors

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are really kinbote-ing this up

Hell no!

That link is to the Lakers 1986-1987 championship video (“The Drive For Five”), which features Michael Cooper receiving the defensive player of the year in 1987 before Game 5 of the conference finals, then going out and shutting down Sleepy Floyd, and also swatting the shit out of a floppy-haired Mullin.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sleepy Floyd, one of the great NBA nicknames

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Robbing the world of another great Eric! :)

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s no Gentle Jeems.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m on strike 92763693694 already.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric has a separate computer already set to GFY me. He keeps it ready, just daring me to cross the line.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a supercomputer

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

What kind of superpowers are we talking about? Flight? Invisibility? Heat vision? Superstrength?…

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it a chalk outline in right field?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m . . . honored? :)

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was meant as a term of derisive endearment.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did they make any other video like that? I must have watched the Drive For Five video a thousand times as a kid

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

They made “Back to Back” the next year, which I also watched a ton.

There are other championship videos from the 1980s, but they are more NBA-general and not as team specific as those great videos are.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

 There was a NBA blooper VHS i watched 400 times. Can’t remember the title, but there was a lot of Doug Moe in it.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers!

With Marv Albert and Frank Layden!!!!

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes. I think i had volume 2

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had both

The first one, plus the first NBA Superstars are in the pantheon of epic NBA videos.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you enjoy Space Jam?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That, and Magic Johnson: Always Showtime, which was made just before the HIV, got worn out.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Non-Sequitor

I miss the Forum so much. I haven’t been to a Lakers or a Kings game since they moved

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m saying False because I have to think UCLA played in whatever is considered the best. Or that Duke/Laettner game.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

so sick of that duke game.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think maybe yes. Follow-up: what is the greatest CBB game ever? I can only think of moments (Laettner, Edney, Webber’s TO) but not any wire-to-wire games stand out to me.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Before big time TV, but people swear by the 1974 ACC Final between NC State (with David Thompson) and Maryland. That was when only one team per conference made the NCAA Tournament.

Also, there were a couple big OT NCAA finals. I think Wilt lost to UNC one year, then a few years later Jerry West and WVU lost to Cincinnati, but maybe I’m mixing up teams on the last one.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only game I remember being a big deal was Magic/Bird, but I believe that was more about the players than the game itself.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huge hype going in but to my memory it was not a classic game.

I remember one UCLA game where I think it was Richard Washington made a base line shot to win the championship but for all I know it was just a game to keep them playing. Wasn’t that Wooden’s last game?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

to me that has the one game with the most pressure on any team, you know those players wanted to win it for Wooden.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was so bummed that Washington sucked as a Pro. Glad my memory did not fail me.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers hitting Yunieski Betancourt 6th today. A shameful team.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

First five will get it done

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Four of the five.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aren’t you guy who just on Saturday warned about casting stones from a glass house?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I’m a hypocrite, but at least we didn’t trade our entire farm system to hit Yunieski Betancourt 6th.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

When Mariners fans constantly make fun of you for not being able to hit, you just might be bad.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Silly me, I thought it was to get the 2009 Cy Young award winner.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who, arguably, is largely canceled out by starting Yunieski Betancourt.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Betancourt just hit a looong double, almost a home run.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball is such a tease

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Betancourt hits his long double to lead off.

Nyjer Morgan bunted him over to third.

Will Nieves struck out.

The pitcher flew out to left.

No runs and a hit.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball is such a tease.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Danza could kick a mean field goal.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a ralk.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

ralk chaulk jayhawk

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Intent to deceive fo sho.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice perm

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bentencourt would bat 4th on these dodgers.

by Tripon on Apr 4, 2011 1:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

On Saturday, maybe

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a truly terrible lineup. I feel bad for the people who attended.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't want to sound like some know-it-all and going by GScott's standard

I could start my knowledge of sports around 1970.

Maybe it was the fact that we went to library as kids and that I liked sports so I got books about sports. I read really bad biographies and glorified histories (but also read books like “Glory of their times”, “Boys of Summer” and the Macmillian Baseball Encyclopedia.

This probably explains why I could not remember the Periodic Table or the list of Presidents.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Don’t forget the TV show and book “Greatest Sports Legends.”

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ask me any question about Evel Knieval.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

except for how to spell his name gahhh.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

We had our priorities right. Education is for the unenlightened:)

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I checked out books about old Dodgers and Yankees my grandfather told me stories about. I did not check out any Willie Mays books. Basketball is watched but not followed in our house. I knew Rodman because of the antics, the Bulls and the Lakers, in that order. I found out yesterday that he played for the Pistons.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was great on the Spurs. In case you did not know that too.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't

The more you know.

Also, bowling?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah – my friend who is actually good has been kinda sick lately.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

no worries, I just don’t check Twitter like, ever, so shoot me a fb message if you end up going.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t fb…….

no going back now

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

You and 499,999,999 others

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

you don’t make 500,000,000 friends without a few paternity suits.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like a nice three-button paternity suit

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was one of the original bad boys

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Laimbeer retired the trophy

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved the books

about Houdini, the guy who tightrope walked over Niagra Falls, etc.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s antimony, arsenic, aluminun, selenium….

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ricky Weeks hits #3

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Good.

I played the Brewers and the Cubs today…..

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to trade for him before he signed the extension. Can I take credit for that?

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Gucci Mane the worst rap name ever?

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Vanilla Ice?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second only to The Inscrutable H.U.M.M.A.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dyspeptic C.O.L.O.N

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Responsible C.P.A.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 5-tool P.L.A.Y.A.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Del the Funky Homosapien

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just name. Respect the act. Anyone De La Soul name-drops is okay with me.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Biscuit.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funky Aztecs

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hire a publicist.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will take on the work for $5,000 a month.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

and all the rap music Eric can take

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if Eric

just promises to pay for Spawn and Folly’s college education

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, he’ll do some bait-and-switch on me and I’ll be forced to send them to Grenada or something. No, I accept only cold, hard cash.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then he’ll do it for $7.35 an hour and a pint of Gin a day.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric can rest on Thursday

as no Southern California professional sports (Dodgers, Angels, Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Ducks) scheduled, there are no Pac-10 competitions in any sport and even the MLS is off.

Have not checked the cricket schedules.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Kameron Loe went to CSUN and was on the Rangers for a few years. As I recall, he’s pretty tall. Never heard of Beachy.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

So when are we reminded as to why Brewers were trendy pick to win pennant this year?

I get the Greinke thing, and they have a good lineup, but no depth, no help in farm system now, pitching questions…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the other teams in that division aren’t that good.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment. Or song.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of yeah...

Cards have issues, Cubs look meh, but the Reds sure look dangerous.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Votto and Bruce, sure but their pitching is pretty bad.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Volquez and Arroyo are awful.

Not sure about the back end of the pen either with A Rhodes gone. Cordero is a good for a gaggle of earned runs.

I like their offense though, especially in this division.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Volquez only has one good season, and personal bias on Arroyo probably but it always seems like he’s a season away from collapsing.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s gonna be this year for arroyo…….

okay maybe not, but I’m not a fan of his at all.

:)

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Reds pitching — Volquez, Cueto, Arroyo, Wood, Leake, plus Cordero, Masset and Chapman in the pen. Not spectaculat, but they’re definitely good enough to keep them in the race.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I guess the answer could be today, if the score holds up...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beachy is a 24 year old that projects to a 3.80 ERA even though I’ve never heard him mentioned as a prospect.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently had a K/BB of 5.5 between AA and AAA last year and didn’t give up jacks.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s been like #9 – #11 on all of their prospect lists. Seems like a born #5 starter. Minor will surpass him in the near future.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

And call back to Phil’s post today, he’s also an undrafted free agent.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much cooler would it be if Gameday had Counsell’s stance?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we’re putting it to a vote, I’ll play ball.

:)

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they'll figure out a way

to get Batting Stance Guy in there somehow

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Predictions for 27 weeks of baseball

Batter of Week:
Matt Kemp 10 times
Ethier takes the honor 9 times
Furcal 2 time winner
Fodder 5 times
Sands 1 time

Pitcher of Week:
Kershaw 8 times
Billz 3 times
Kuroda 4 times
Lilly 2 times
Kuo 4 times
Brox 3 times
Other bullpen guys 2 times
Rubby 1 time

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

How many times did the bullpen get Pitcher of the Week honors last year? And how often was it because the bullpen pitcher really had an awesome week, and how much was it because of lack of a viable starter candidate?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea. Those were wild guesses.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just twice

Broxton once and Kuo once.

Monk won it once, but it was as a starter.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say. Bullpen winning nine times sounds like a lot of bad weeks from the Dodger starters.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loons Roster announced

I made a fapost here. I’ll continue to update that fanpost when the other rosters are announced

by Brandon Lennox on Apr 4, 2011 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d look, but I’m not sure I can live with the disappoinment of not seeing my name……

lol

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno what you were trying to link to, but I bet it was brilliant : )

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is….

all I typed was about 5 or 6 LOL’s and WTF’s .

No attempt at a link. Sorry for the let down.

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Gameday it looks like (Not J)Martin Prado went Vlad Guerrero on old friend Saito.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

haha I thought the same thing. That pitch was way high up but he crushed it

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 4, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's probably Broxton's fault, though.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Martin Prado takes Sammy Saito deep

and it’s tied 1-1 in Milwaukee.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Please score 1 more than the Braves……….

PUHLEEEEEEEEZE beer makers

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uggla takes one out.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re full of great fuckin news.

Thanks Sammy……

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love, love that guy and so enjoyed his time in LA

but parting ways with him was definitely the thing to do. Alas.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. So fun to root for when he was here…

….but.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s pitched for peanuts and while he hasn’t been dominating he still would have been the second best pitcher in our bullpen.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surely age is going to catch up with him one of these days, though.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh he could be toast this year no doubt, but he would have definitely helped the team in 2009 and 2010.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’d still have Josh Bell and Steve Johnson, for one, though I’m not sure what that does for us nor am I upset with that trade in the slightest.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, if you’re going there… if LA keeps Saito, meaning they don’t trade for Sherrill in ’09, what happens in the NLCS?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

President Selleck cancels the playoffs after New Hampshire secedes.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Puerto Rico finally gets voting rights, becomes a state and is decalred country’s 5th best vacation destination behind Hawaii, San Diego, New York, and Fresno.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fresno?

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fastest growing city in the country

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait until they get the bullet train. you could live there in a mansion and work in LA no problem every day.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where do you get these facts from ? I don’t think Fresno is even in the top 10.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

What he means is that things grow fast there. A baby gestates in just seven months. A child is fully grown by age eight.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tumbleweeds, mostly.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The place looks like you could remake the tornado scene from “The Wizard of Oz” there.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you spend too much time in Fresno, Bakersfield starts to look like the emerald city.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. Then you’ve had to play there?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, and driven through many times.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better Fresno than Modesto.

by Grimjack on Apr 4, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no reason for Modesto…..

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no reason for Modesto to exist……

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t take you for a geographic snob

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

all-time exemption for once hosting a Dodgers farm team.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s why Fresno is lowest on the list due to the Fresno AAA Giants.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s no Lodi.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

all-time exemption for once hosting a Dodgers farm team.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually Merced is kinda cute little town

and isn’t that where the newest UC campus is? Gateway to Yosemite!

I once did the Amtrak to Yosemite thing with my g/f (train to Merced, bus in to Yosemite). The bus driver lived in Merced and went on and on about its charms. More than it deserved. But at least I left no longer thinking it was a total dump. Only partial.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dunno. I wouldn’t have guessed Sherrill or Broxton underperform against the Phillies, so I’m assuming the results still stand if you put Saito in Sherrill’s spot.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

What happens if Beimel doesn’t cut his hand in 2006?

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then, from the dugout in Game 1, Beimel is able to signal to Jeff Kent TO FUCKING STOP AT THIRD BASE and JD Drew TO FUCKING GO BACK TO SECOND.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Mets still lose in the NLCS.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Apr 4, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about that Brewers bullpen, eh?

by keithc13 on Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

but they are famous for their GC Monday’s. Other stuff is supposed to be good too

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also may be confusing them

with Clementine

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean Campanile

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Campanile tho

They have Grilled Cheese Thursdays.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

and have had their grilled cheese sandwiches too. Really good, parking is annoying.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

place is a+

they have great stuff there.. a little pricey but hey its the west side. they have a walforf-ish chicken salad that is divine.. cookies are also good too..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 4, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Unholy Grail

for mayo haters. I mean, it’s hands down.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love mayo

Just made a roast pork sandwich on french bread with mayo, Phillipes mustard and melted smoked cheese.

Divine

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re the man. I desire no man not to enjoy that which giveth him pleasure.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

gonna caramelize some onions later today for sandwiches through the week

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things I have never had

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nor I. Fruit and mayo together makes me shudder.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surprisingly it works

Apples, walnuts and chicken salad are a good combo

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think everyone’s entitled to ONE irrational food peccadillo. Mine’s mayo, my wife’s is mushrooms.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mushrooms are icky

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

mayo and sour cream. To a lesser extent, guacamole too, but I’ll have some homemade guac now and again.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to eat mayo and coleslaw until I saw my grandmother this last christmas put a big bowl of cabbage, raisins, and carrots together, then use a spatula to scoop half a Costco-sized tub of mayo into the bowl and mix it all together.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have two

pineapple and coconut (particularly sweetened coconut)

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shredded coconut really pisses me off.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I am finally recognized as Supreme Overlord of All Things, coconut will be outlawed.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coconut off to a Baltimorean start on the leaderboard.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except if you're all Tom Hanksed on an island

then it should be ok

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are things with coconut by-products I like though. Like there many delicious curries and sauces that require coconut milk. I can get on board with a Pina Colada on the beach on a hot day.

Shredded or shaved coconut mixed into something on the other hand…

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tom Yum

might be the best soup in the world. I never understand the version that has coconut milk.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea Tom Yum is awesome. The coconut milk version is traditionally called something else. Tom Kha I think.

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

German Chocolate Pie/Cake comes to mind.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overall mine would be seafood

My brain just can’t get past its prejudice against sea animals. My brain just won’t stop screaming at me that its gross even when my tongue is trying to tell it to chill out, its not so bad.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend who hates chicken

WTF?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf indeed!

Man, thats just…. weird.

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by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also never uses milk with cereal

and is a Cubs fan. So he’s pretty fucked up

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask him if he’s straight, and if so, if he thinks Christina Hendricks is the shit. If not, he is clearly the least interesting man in the world.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is

Its something I’m working on, for the sake of my wife who loves seafood. I just need to force ffed myself more crab, salmon and tuna.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crab is awesome. Especially in, like, a spider roll. That is good shit.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is your take on Sweet potato fries with sour cream and sugar dipping sauce. Had it in Nashville this weekened and it was fantastic.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t dislike sweet potato fries, just never saw the point if they offer the regular kind.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

butI'd probably eat a grilled tire

if they serve it with sour cream and sugar dipping sauce

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Apr 4, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

saw a few grilled tires while I was out there.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

RE: Saturday lineup

My boss asked about how we lost 10-0 Saturday and I explained that we had both a homer-happy pitcher going on a warm day game and rested all our starters because it was a day game after a night game. Her response?

It’s not like it’s a back-to-back in basketball. Baseball is twenty minutes of action spread out over three hours. What the hell do these guys need to rest for?

I didn’t really have a good answer for her because I’m not sure I disagree. It’s a long season, to be sure, and Furcal is an injury case, but baseball isn’t exactly the most demanding sport physically.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

While there’s something to what she said, I dunno. These guys are going to play a hundred and sixty-two times over the next six months. That’s a lot and it’ll take a toll on anyone. My personal feeling is if you’re going to have a policy of resting guys on the day-game-after-night in August, you should have that policy in April, too… but (a) maybe that shouldn’t be an absolute, and (b) resting all of ’em at once every time they need rest might not be a good policy.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

In most sports they get days off between almost every game, in baseball its day after day with the occasional off day. That’ll take its toll.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus once you factor in pregame stuff it’s about six-seven hours of kinda physical activity every day. I do say that baseball is very close to not being a sport, but I can see how that would wear on you.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re all right, it does wear on you, especially relief pitchers and catchers. But we’re also talking about Game 3 of the season and in the middle of a home series where they don’t have to worry about hotel beds or travel the next day. It was a day game sure, but it wasn’t a getaway day.

Apologies, I’m sure this was hashed out.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s not good for baseball if the champs get swept in 4 on opening week.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the “house money” argument we dissected like crazy back in 2009. D2X is basically punting that game and getting everybody their rest so that they can be ready to win the series on Sunday.

BTW, if LAD wins the first 2 against SD this weekend, watch out for a shit-tastic lineup behind Ely/Redding on Sunday.

by Michael White on Apr 4, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

but that’d give them 3 off days in a week. Do you still do it?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would I? I’m not sure. I think D2X will though with the logic of it being a long season and with the AAA pitchers throwing anyway the club is likely looking down the barrell of a loss.

by Michael White on Apr 4, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sucks that we’re giving away division games.

I fully expect the AAA lineup as well. Maybe we’ll get lucky and Richard will start Sunday so we’re at least facing a lefty with Thames and Kemp.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's what we will hear

We are in the middle of a stretch of 20 games in 20 days, day game after a night game, all the usual stuff.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

“It’s not like the Padres will run away with the division.” /fakequote

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed that twice in ST games I saw

I think it was both the White Sox and Cubs, they kept their regulars in long after the Dodgers started subbing guys out.

I would fully expect if healthy, the games played leaders will be Kemp, Loney, Ethier, Furcal, Blake, Uribe, Carroll, Gwynn, Thames, Barajas

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the fielding of the b team makes me less aggravated since they wonthe series yesterday..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 4, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Initially

I applauded D2X for his “guts” in sending out that lineup. But yes, that was a punt for sure. I don’t think he makes a habit of that if he wants to stick around.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Braun singles with one out. They’re bringing in the lefty to face Fielder. Still 2-1 ATL

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Fielder: 5-6-3 DP. We go to the 9th.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking about Prince Fielder, and I’m wondering if he is the douchiest player that I actually want to see play for my team.

I don’t really like Prince — he makes it hard to root for him when he does stuff like charge locker rooms. But both because of need (Dodgers need a big bat and at his position) and talent (no doubt he is great) I would fully support having him on the team, even if he is hard to root for.

What do you think? Is there a douchier player that you’d go, y’know, let’s go get him?

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m for any player without felony charges.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I cant believe he had the second highest fielding percentage for an NL 1B last year.. (behind pujols, tied with jim loney)

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he didn’t get to anything.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I supported signing Barry Bonds after 2007.

I think at his price point and number of contract year commands, he’d be someone we renegotiate his salary and trade for John Ely in 3 years.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That being said, I would ask for a refund if I bought tickets and it ended up being a Curt Schilling start for the Dodgers.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bonds a few years ago when he was just sitting on the free agency market basically begging the Dodgers to make an offer. Randy Johnson I would have done.

by Michael White on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would take Jeff Kent in GImenez place right now.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prince is such a risk to see his production plummet because carrying all that wait will catch up to him eventually. I want no part.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t think Prince is douchy

But I’d be okay with Carlos Ruiz at catcher:)

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

(wait for it…….)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

they are co-winners of the NL Player of the Week.

Underdog’s favorite Dodger acquisition dream, Carlos Quentin was the AL Player of the Week

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

old friend andruw jones

starting in the OF for the yankees today. break a leg, druw

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 4, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Martin: You were fat when we were on the Dodgers.

Andruw: You were shitty.

Both laugh.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cap’n Jetes: You guys best stop swearing in my clubhouse.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

From carrying that fat wallet, amirite?

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

This little thread was a gem

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least three of these should be of a different color

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yankee apologist

Cowherd was on the radio the other day trying to front like Cashman was a shrewd gm because he got chavez ‘for nothing’.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orioles looking to go 4-0

Up 5-1 right now.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

They’re going to Chris Shelton this season.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Craig Kimbrel looked incredible. Finished off the Brewers by striking out the side.

by Alex41592 on Apr 4, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

He and Venters are both nasty. Must be like facing Kuo and vintage Broxton

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah bureaucracy . . .

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice hat tip to Jon in the blurb.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of the local team blogs got callouts. Only the Phillies, Padres, and Nats did not. I wonder if ESPN has blogs for those guys, and if they do, I wonder if their authors are like, WTF?

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN.com

has local team blogs at least for MLB, NBA and NFL teams. DT joined after it was brought onto ESPN LA. The season before that, they had a smaller number of blogs, of which Chad’s was one of them.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, then, seriously: why would they give hat tips to 27 of the 30 team blogs, but leave out three? Seems odd.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they don’t have a blog for that team.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No blogs for

Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Pittsburgh, Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles Angels

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i used to live for reading this shit.

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So did I

back before I actually found blogs worth reading with comment sections full of smart(ish) people.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So did I

back before I actually found blogs worth reading with comment sections full of smart(ish) people.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

stupid!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

More ludicrous to me than 0-3 Sox still being #7: Pirates take 2 of 3 from the Cubs, get ranked 14 spots lower.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those rankings seem odd

though granted, a team’s overall worth and “power” shouldn’t be based just on first few games, which could be flukey or whatever. But then again, I have no idea what basis they are using if not for that.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our climbing to #10 after a so-so first series (won mostly because SF couldn’t catch anything) seems a little suspect.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm reading Feeding the Monster

Manny being Manny in LA seems like nothing compared to Manny being Manny in Boston

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

and it seems that Dre is just pulling a Nomar

With two years remaining on his contract, he said “Fans are going to miss a lot of good guys. I’ve said it all along. You like wearing a guy’s T-shirt with his name on it – maybe he won’t be here next year.”

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is that Dre will get traded at the deadline in 2012, and then the Dodgers will win the World Series?

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

…yes

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all Latin to me.

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

did you know

that Theo Epstein’s grandfather won an Oscar for the screenplay Casablanca?

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Philip, I guess Juiius is Phillip’s twin.

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

should have seen them at 18 months having that conversation by the ice box

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Hey, Jules! Glad I bumped inta ya. Oh you got the sand from the Jansen yard, is it good? Listen, what do you think about writing a movie, set in Africa?”

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

OWNED
It is one thing to build an analytical paradigm that leaves out leadership, hustle, focus, intensity, courage, and self-confidence. It is a very, very different thing to say that leadership, hustle, courage, and self-confidence do not exist or do not play a role on real-world baseball teams. The people who think that way, not to be rude, but they’re children. They may be 40-year-old children, they may be 70-year-old children, but their thinking is immature.

Bill James

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Sure

the problem is is how the hell do you quantify courage in baseball?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s effectively saying he doesn’t know how. He’ll leave that aspect up to the baseball guys.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dragons slayed?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s saying that certain things are quantifiable, but the very fact that their not quantifiable doesn’t mean they do not exist.

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have heart though my peripherals are lacking

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

but you can’t really expect people to be comfortable seeing a guy hit a buck fifty and suck on the field just because he is a supposed PVL.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, don’t expect that at all

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

My view is that no one ever says that it is not part of it

It’s a given that it is part of it (as it is everywhere) but the problem is trying to figure out how much of that plays a role. Also, some (not so much me) get annoyed when outsiders try to put this as the big reason why so and so player is not performing well.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mayhaps we should stop looking at spreadsheets in our parents basement.

Very, very few people think this so why bother writing it when this column has been written seven million other times.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Maddz reading an old book, so it is new for her?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not really the point I was going for but I suppose if you think your line of thinking is the only valid way to go, you get defensive when it looks like it may be impinged in any way, shape or form.

I do think that sabermetrics are a great and extremely valid (and valuable!) way to look at baseball. I just don’t think it’s completely exhaustive. I realize this is a methodological – if not ideological – quandary, but I did find it very interesting that the quote above comes from Bill James and not Buzz Bissinger, you dig?

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Besides, why would I make a parents’ basement joke when you don’t live at home? Be srs.

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But…I’m not getting defensive. When you throw down a quote that’s a strawman argument and go “boom, roasted” what else is there to say.

No one with an opinion worth listening to thinks that these guys are baseball playing robots. The thing is that players without courage or intangibles and what not tend to suck in a very, very tangible way and I’m not remotely qualified to talk about who had the most heart (and who is really?) so I stick to the tangible.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And also keep in mind that intangibles have to eventually have to turn into runs, otherwise they actually are irrelevant. And since runs don’t just appear that means that some other tangible number on a players B-Ref page has to get affected. If a player goes balls out every play that shows up on the scoresheet under the very tangible “hits”. For the most part giving a guy credit for intangibles is mostly double counting his contribution.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is one reason why Craig Biggio ranked highly on James’ lists. There is, however, the issue of being a “good teammate.” If Jeff Kent’s dickery was such a negative impact on the team that his teammates did not do their job as effectively, then some of that blame could be attributed to Kent. Whereas, if Sean Casey’s happy attitude and winning smile made his teammates play better, then he deserves some credit for that as well.

I have no clue whatsoever if either of those things really is the case, but it does speak to the non-statistical impact a player might have.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure basic stats, but if Jeff Kent’s dickery had an actual negative effect you could go back and demonstrate that Kent’s teammates constantly under performed.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

My point is that anything intangible has to eventually turn into something tangible for it to matter, and if it turns into something tangible we can study it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s say, for instance, that Jeff Kent’s shenanigans were sloughed off by most players, but only Hee Seop Choi was so bothered by it that it affected his performance. On the one hand, you can argue that Choi’s intangibles were weak which then is reflected by his performance, but in putting together a team, you would want to consider that Kent may have that negative effect on someone else.

By the same token, Matt Kemp may watch Casey Blake play hard and be motivated to play harder (i.e. better), but James Loney might not. Is there a tangible effect, sure. Is there an analytical way of isolating Casey Blake’s teammate helpfulness, I don’t know.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess once you get to that point, sure, any benefit the player offers would just get written off as statistical white noise.

But could you make a list of the Casey Blakes of the league versus the Jeff Kents? And would your list resemble anyone elses.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess this might speak to a deeper issue of the correct way to build a team and whether or not you want to go by things that are only statistically significant.

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m agreeing that this is something that you couldn’t just use numbers to identifity.

However, if it’s not statistically significant it’s probably a very minor effect because if it was a big thing, it would show up consistently in the numbers.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

How about the San Diego Padres in 2010?

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

They all played really good defense

and their pitchers didn’t get hurt like at all for the first 3/4s of the season didn’t they? Sounds tangible.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the other guys playing good defense

made everyone else try harder?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe their hot streak was random chance and they suddenly rolled snake eyes?

I want to back off of that a bit. “Random chance” is too strong. But I believe luck played a role in the Padres’ effectiveness, and their luck ran out.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh you

Instead of looking for individual statistics, I would say a team “playing above their heads” might be a sign of team chemistry.

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suggesting that playing over your head is because your team has great chemistry is just as presumptive as suggesting someone playing below their ability has some sort of mental attitude/confidence/etc issue.

Therein lies the issue. You can’t prove good teammates have a positive impact any more than you can prove poor teammates have a negative impact. Also, as someone mentioned above, the fact that casey Blake is a good teammate and impacts Matt Kemp doesn’t mean he has an imapct on everyone.

It’s an exercise in futility in baseball and doesn’t matter nearly as much as it would in a sport like basketball where the team relies on whoever has the ball to function within a system and get teammates involved.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m arguing collectively, not individually. Saying Broxton has “something wrong upstairs” is different than saying “The 2010 Mets had no chemistry, and that’s why they were terrible, collectively, as a group”

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by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are a bunch of things that are out of that team's control

the schedule, their health, their opponent’s health, weather.

By its very nature, baseball is an inconsistent game and luck plays a factor.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

and by its nature, luck is a term we use when we can’t quantify something. By my logic, team chemistry is based on luck.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone can play above their heads for 120 games, but can you do it for 162:)

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stat explanation:

The Padres have a major advantage over everyone, they play in a park that you can’t hit home runs out of. They abuse this by getting cheap pitchers that don’t walk anyone and let people put the balls in play.

Over the first four months, every single player on that team was having a career year defensively. Then they decided to screw with that by adding two mediocre/bad glove guys in Ludwick/Tejada, people returned to the mean defensively and the team fell apart.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was because they traded the Alabamian Dick to the White Sox

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was hurt anyways

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But how do you quantify in this case that Ludwick’s defense was so bad that it made everyone else’s defense worse?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because there’s a ton of luck in defensive numbers. I don’t care how much you like you’re teammates it’s not gonna stop a ball going five feet out of your reach.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Furthermore, how do you screw with someone having a career year? Break their pinky?

/weeps

But seriously, either they were really lucky and we choose to call it luck and then they regressed to the mean – Ethier coming through in clutch situations in 2009 and then decidedly not doing that in 2010 – or we start to consider that maybe you have something else in play.

Also, the Padres had the best record in the entire MLB for a stretch of time, and from what I’m hearing, a majority of those games must have taken place in Petco, right? Or at least they won an overwhelming number of games at home to displace the losses on the road?

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers also had the best NL record as late as mid-June. There is no way to quantify hot and cold streaks, why they started, how long they last, why they ended, when they’ll start again, the middle area of normalcy between being hot and cold. The best you can do is accumulate the best group of baseball players you can and hope for the best on all the intangible stuff assuming you aoid things like putting Milton Bradley and Paul LoDuca on the same team.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is when I wish I didn’t have 4 research papers due in the next two weeks so I could research some stuff and get back to you.

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Equal at home on the road last year. Good defense is good defense though and the Padres benefit more from a sudden defensive explosion than anyone.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

And really if we go down this road, I can’t win. Eventually I’m gonna hit something that I’m going to attribute to luck (since there is a ton of luck in baseball), then you can attribute it to chemistry.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why people don't like

arguing chemistry and/or mental makeup. At some point you are just spinning your wheels.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the thing

I have no idea. And I’m not sure anyone else does either. I am reasonably confident Kent is a dick. I am reasonably confident more of his teammates dislike him than like him. I have no clue at all if he affects their ability to perform.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eddie Collins a HOF second baseman

and probably a legitimate candidate for best of all time, college educated at a time that was not the norm.

He played for many good teams, one of which was the famous 1919 Chicago White Sox. It is written that no one on that team like Collins because he was getting paid more than anyone else and no one talked to him aside from on the field.

Baseball history is full of stories like that.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the flip side was that everyone on the Charlie Finley A’s hate each other and they won World Serieses. Was Collins a bigger jackhole than Reggie because his team hated him so much they dyed their socks? Doubtful, since Collins teams did win 4 championships. But did his non-stat contributions affect the team? Probably.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

keep in mind that a lot of the “clubhouse guy” stuff has zero effects on the game being played and a bigger impact on things like preparation. It’s a lot easier to want to get to the park and get your work in if the guy(s) you’re showing up with are fun to hang around versus “shit, I have to go work on double plays with that bastard? Fuck him.”

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but if people are less willing to work on double plays with him it would end up as “sucks at turning double plays” which if it’s because he’s a dick or has bad range has the same effect.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was agreeing with you. I just mean that “jeff Kent is a tool” doesn’t equal “Cesar Izturis hits .220” but it might mean that if Cesar Izturis doesn’t want to show up to the weight room or whatever if it means avoiding Kent.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

James Loney had his best years when Jeff Kent was our 2nd baseman.

Not that it means anything.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, 2007. True or False: If 2007 James Loney were here instead of 2011 James Loney we’d have much less to worry about.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that debatable?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suppose not. Hey guys, if one of our worst offensive players was our best, would you like that? Would you?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

and block Jerry Sands?!?

never!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

and here I was, going to write “Nolander wouldn’t”

and you go and prove my point. I love you

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

boom shakalaka

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe

I would love loney to suddenly become awesome, he is like my 3rd favorite dodger!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

but would it be enough to quell the offensive worries?

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we swapped Loney for Adrian Gonzalez I’d like this team a lot more.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

and if wishes were horses, we’d all be eaten’ steaks!

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in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

But James goes out of his way to show the statistics in which Biggio’s “intangibles” become tangible. The famous one is the year he got hit by a bunch of pitches and didn’t ground into a single double play. The idea was that, sure, he didn’t hit as many home runs as Griffey (James particularly mentions Griffey), but Biggio did everything else better.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was agreeing with that. I just have put a paragraph break between the Biggio point and the next point.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, i see that now. I mis-read your comment.

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by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who knows how all this works out

Jackie Robinson had not played any professional baseball until 1945. He played maybe 50 some games in the Negro Leagues before his one year in AAA in Montreal. He went from there to become for about a 6 year stretch, a legitimate candidate for a the best player in baseball. (His WAR from 1947 to 1953 is second to only Musial and from 1949-1953, he led the Majors in WAR). (Another amazing stat, if you go from the Integration era 1947-present and measure WAR for players from age 28 on, Robinson’s WAR is 9th on that list, behind Barry Bonds, Aaron, Mays, Schmidt, Musial, Morgan, Frank Robinson, and Clemente)

A phenomenal athlete, intelligent and competitor beyond compare for sure. But what if he was the fifth Black to play or the 25th, would have been so driven to excel? We don’t know how much those intangibles have to do with what he did, his tangible numbers tell us he was great, what they don’t tell us is why.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you ever read some of James writing

like in some big book someone gave you, you would fine that James is as much a lover of all those types of qualities as a player and despises some who are really rotton people (see Hal Chase).

I always thought what James point was with stubborn thinking like fast guys lead off. He was pleased when the Angels had Brian Downing lead off, felt he was second to Rickey in the AL at leading off.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew I should have changed the header. I am not complaining about James.

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to have long discussion over beers we can do that later
I do think that sabermetrics are a great and extremely valid (and valuable!) way to look at baseball. I just don’t think it’s completely exhaustive. I realize this is a methodological – if not ideological – quandary, but I did find it very interesting that the quote above comes from Bill James and not Buzz Bissinger, you dig?

Here’s the thing, using a Bill James quote without any context makes it hard to know what exactly he is talking about.

Way back, when I first bought his Abstracts, I loved how he would be able to write about new ways to look at the game. And this wasn’t like he was saying anything revolutionary, Mike Schmidt was still the best player, Rod Carew got a lot of singles, and Jack Morris won games. But he would add some nuances and make you think about why a walk was a good as a hit, why bunting was a bad idea, etc.

Like I said, he liked to examine stubborn un-truths and try to see if things could be done differently. But he never lost the human connection and you just couldn’t account for that in a tangible way.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill James flipped my world and his abstracts are my favorite books.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would argue that the sabermetric approach to the intangibles (considering them as generally unknowable) is the right one that preserves the complexity of baseball player as people.

People are extremely complex and a lot of the people who cry the hardest about the use of stats are the ones that treat players the most like robots, putting them in broad categories like hard worker/lazy or good person/bad person and assuming that people they label in “good” categories make teams win more and people they place in the “bad” piles as making teams win less. But anyone who’s interacted with people at any time in their lives knows this is not true and has seen intelligent, well-meaning people not work well together and people who you wouldn’t think would get along at all be extremely productive.

--
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by D.Szymborski on Apr 4, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

What would it take to get Chacin from Colorado? I’m serious.

by silverwidow on Apr 4, 2011 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe this is why Preston sucks at baseball?

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

age old question, stick with what you love or what you are good at.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

So which is which in this case? :)

by BFDC on Apr 4, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

As Martin Amis once wrote

“Do what you do best, not what’s best to do.”

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball stadiums should be unique and interesting

beyond that I say its all up for grabs.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is none more interesting than Dodger Stadium.

When the Astrodome was built, it was said to be the most architecturally modern stadium: more space station-like. Built for the times. But if you look at Dodger Stadium, what could be more architecturally pleasing, and modern looking, even thought it’s the second oldest stadium in the National League.. Its cut into the side of a hill, and from the aerial view is a spectacular display, and it overlooks the City of Los Angeles! How much more could you ask for?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

it really is a marvel. I think it’s the Loge entrance, third base side, that feels kind of Jet Agey to me, the one with the bar when you first walk in

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

For night games, go to the First Base side and go out on the walkway by the foul pole. The lights from downtown are amazing!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Apr 4, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I maintain that if they ever build a new Dodger Stadium, they should just build it back to back with current Dodgers Stadium and change the view to the city. New Dodgers Stadium will also be the next time they host the All Star Game. I do not, however, feel they should ever build a new Dodgers Stadium.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually kinda liked Frank’s plan to gussy up centerfield. I figured that change might be enough to draw the All-Star Game back here.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know this entire thread is classic Josie, but to be even more nitpicky, used to be Stadiums faced nice natural views…Oakland Hills, Candlestick overlooking the Ocean. Now the trend is to look at buildings, but buildings are lame. Give me my chaparral covered hills anytime over downtown Pittsburgh

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blame Baltimore

It didn’t have any natural beauty, so they made warehouses seem charming. Then everyone copied. I’m looking at you, San Diego.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t the warehouse at Petco a fake one?

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It overlooks the river!

That stadium is really nice

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh for sure. they deserve better than a AAAA team

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus, bridge!

I get what you are saying about Natur vs buildings, but thats a purty backdrop imho

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s mindblowing

dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti,
in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua

by Maddz on Apr 4, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that they only put in 34,000 seats knowing that’s all they’d need. I don’t like how they designed right field, but it’s easily top handful of stadiums in MLB.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finest modern ballpark! It would be a hell of a buy if you were a billionaire, team should be cheap and you can build up a dynasty in that fine park.

by DodgersKings323 on Apr 4, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

this would be dope but the sun would be in everyones eyes in the evening

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Apr 4, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

you bring up an interesting point. Though I think the sun would be up high enough during the summer months to not affect it anymore than it already does.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’d also change wind direction, but I don’t know enough to know if it’d be for the better or worse

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish Butler’s basketball team would play Boise St’s football team at New Yankee Stadium.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 4, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

only if it’s umpired by the Phoenix Coyotes. Hockey in Phoenix, come on.

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

or Joe Crawford.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan doing the color commentary? What sport would they play? I vote for ping pong.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Quidditch.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was also thinking that, or kickball.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

wiffleball is a harder sport than either of their actual sports.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

318, 314 Yankee Stadium fail

by DodgersKings323 on Apr 4, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boom Shaka Laka

Amazing what one little Final Four can do for you. It will become moot if he has another run, when some major conference will pay him triple.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Never pick a play-in team to advance!

by kinbote on Apr 4, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would a catcher

ask for a two seamer upstairs? Isn’t that a groundball pitch?

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

my assumption is that it was Kenley Jansen’d and wasn’t called for, but that the pitcher got around it funny and it came out with odd spin.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jansen didn’t know what he was throwing anyway.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to watch more closely, but I wonder if he throws from the same side of the rubber to every hitter. Guys learning something new tend to try to find a process flow for it and follow that pattern every time until it’s second nature. I noticed Ted Lilly changes sides based on the hitter’s handedness, but I bet Jansen doesn’t.

*Changing sides isn’t something I’d advocate for since it’s a whole different set of release points that you’d have to train.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly pitched like it wasn’t just sides of the rubber he was switching. It was which side he was on.

/that’s two cheap jokes in this mini-thread, that’s enough outta me

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He Ghamed us

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its too early for off days

NEED MOAR DODGER BASEBALL

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

two off days this week. Weird.

Are you gonna go to Angels opening day? I hear they’ve got a bomber doing the flyover

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Shit

I AM going to the opener and didn’t even know it! Seriously, my dad bought a ticket package, and is out of town this weekend so he sold me the tickets without me realizing it was opening day. Awesome!

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

your dad SOLD you tickets?

by delias man on Apr 4, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me to

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wasn't going to be able to afford the 20-25 game ticket plan

on his own, the plan the whole time was for me and my bro to buy a few games off him. That way we all get a savings on tickets. He treats me to games all the time(taking me to the angels dodgers game in Anaheim for example).

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

did they end up doing the flyover on our opening day? The Giants banner thing I mean.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it happened, there was also an LA plane, and a stealth bomber that you could totally see

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oui — and our own LA TAco matched them with a banner of his own.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Detroit will be happy to play some AL Central teams

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m sure the Twins will still have their number. I like the Twins

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t this year, going to root for the White Sox and a Dunn der Title

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don’t want to watch Pierre and Andruw in the World Series.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Pierre getting traded to the Yankee’s or is Jones getting traded to the White Sox?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jones is getting released and picked up by the Phillies.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fortunately that’s not possible.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

White Sox already won a World Series this century. Another and they’re just greedy little bitches

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not rooting for them to win a World Series only a AL Central Championship

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

She gone!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question of the day is will Kinsler hit another lead off home run. If not will he continue to slack off and only hit a home run. Will Nelson Cruz keep pace, will Josh Hamilton say screw all of you and hit three tonight, will Mike Napoli hit two against Bedard and take the team lead?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Mets are dicks

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6293296

“Yeah we used you so much we think your arm is going to fall off, sorry bro, no multiyear deal for you”

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

We did kinda do that to Russell Martin.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

we offered him multiyears though, just without garontees

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

They offered him a guaranteed deal a few years ago. He was too good for it…

by Michael White on Apr 4, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

hm
Colletti is a dick! Then again, maybe Martin deserved it.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

again the issue when your catcher is a valued offensive player and you don’t have the DH.

How many times a week do you rest Posey?

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 days a week.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

give them more reps at 1st?

Posey can probably play short as well as Tejada too.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And RF better than Huff.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This team, called the Indians is playing their’s at 1st base when he’s not catching. They did the same with Victor who is not Vector.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Posey is going to play first

where they have log jam with Belt and Huff (outside of all the other outfielders). And to some extent, is that really a rest.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It rests Posey, sure. If your question is whether resting Posey at the expense of sitting Belt or playing Huff in right field is worth it for the team, that’s a different argument entirely.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, just put Huff behind the plate for a game.

(rubs hands together gleefully)

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one put a gun to their head and told them to sign Huff to the position their best prospect plays who happens to be left handed so sitting him against LHP and letting Posey play 1st base would not have been the worse solution.

Right now they are in a pickle.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I mean huff did play 500 innings in the OF last year, fairly evenly split between LF and RF, and wasn’t anywhere near this bad.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I don’t understand is why Huff was not playing in the outfield during spring if they even had a notion that Belt might make the team. I’m sure he will settle back in to being an outfielder but he’s still going to hurt them, though he may never have as bad a series as this last one.

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did play 29 innings in 5 games this spring

which is uh probably not enough

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one also told them to do that

while paying DeRosa and Ross 12M this year, plus the Rowand money too, heck even Torres is making 2.3 million.

Pat the bat has the most friendly contract which makes him both a candidate to keep or cut lose.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corey Wade?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

We gave him a chance and then he sucked

they straight up said they wouldn’t give him more because he was used too much and they thought he would get injured. I’m a bit shocked they would put that out in the press so blatantly.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He ended up with the Yankee’s who is the loser here other then the Mets?

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

His arm?

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The correct answer is, “You’re a LOOGY. You get no multi-year deal until you provide extensive value”.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

92 appearences for a loogy

seems like a lot

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Student in class is doing a presentation on Kareem Abdul-Jabarr

Only, she refers to him as “Abdul-Jamarr” after she said his name right the first time.

by Julio Nievas on Apr 4, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Abdul-Jabbar means “servent of the mighty”

while

Abdul-Jamarr means “servent of the jabowocky”

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

His vorpal blade went snicker-snack!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure you can go choke the shit out of her and you will NOT be convicted of anything. You may, in fact, get a medal of some kind.

by KellyStephen on Apr 4, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

1200 guys

have major league contracts. I’m wondering if there’s a team out there willing to cut one of them for Jon Link.

by silverwidow on Apr 4, 2011 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey silverwidow

Your next comment will be your 15,000th.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

And apparently, I made my 10,000th comment today. This is my 10,024th.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

creepy

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

he didn’t check. he has an excel spreadsheet macrod to the TBLA articles and fanposts that alerts him when someone gets close to a milestone. Quick Humma, what’s my Comment/Day pace?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

creepier

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm at about 40 comments a day

over 23k. I take solace in it being spread between two blogs.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 4, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever your pace is, Gary, it would be better if the rest of us weren’t such assholes.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m confused.

/Crawling back to work.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just upthread there was a whole argument about stats being brought up or down by one’s teammates being “great character guys” or jerks!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha, way over my head. I thought you were making fun with how animated I get and my pace goes up.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also note how I assumed that we are jerks bringing your stats down, not great people helping you realize the best posting rate that your ability will muster.

Hm. Perhaps there is only one asshole here, and perhaps his name rhymes with Kavula.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

beinga douchey teammate isn’t always a bad thing. Sometimes that is what motivates others around you. Another issue with motivating teammates performance is that it takes many forms and is responded to in many degrees and in many different ways.

Damn it, I started the argument again.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Kent said something like “yeah, if I hated a guy I’d do my best every day just to show how much he sucks”.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That just shows how Kent and I are different. If I hated a guy, I would get strangers to buy me drinks and then complain about how much I hated the guy.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Yankees do know how to hit home runs.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

and design stadiums accordingly

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

the stadium is fine outside of those weird wings hanging off the grandstand and scoreboard

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

the championship banners?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is probably my pettiest yet


That triangle hanging off the side of the scoreboard and off the grandstand. I dunno what it’s doing there, and it bugs me

by Josie Becker on Apr 4, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

after the memories of old yankee stadium fades, they’ll use those as expansion bays to add another 8,000 seats

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also newer ballparks use a million wires to hold up the back stop for some reason, killing the view IMO when you are now farther from the field as it is. Some people didn’t like the block letters they used in LCF and the cheap “longines” type of clock they put in. I still hate split upper decks too

by DodgersKings323 on Apr 4, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

CF restaurant, ugly grey metal barriers between sections and yes those triangles, i kept up with its construction on baseballfever……..

by DodgersKings323 on Apr 4, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Dee Gordon lied to me

On Twitter he says that he will miss Chatanooga, so I asked him (basically to confirm) that he is going to start in Albuquerque. He responded, “naw sorry.”

He is now saying that he is an Isotope.

If you can’t trust Dee Gordon to give you an honest response on Twitter, who can you trust?

by Michael White on Apr 4, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

CPuck6

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on Apr 4, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think DALLASBRADEN209 would give it to you straight.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ol’ Hoss Radbourn

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Apr 4, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the team changed their mind? He could've been as surprised as you were...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 4, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

6-4-3 DP for Mr. BSOHL

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Fairly certain in my blogging lifetime I’ve never seen a player go from revered to repugnant as fast as Mr. BSOHL

You can now put it in the glossary

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

With Granderson on first, Mr. BSOHL strokes a single to right. Granderson goes to third and then BSOHL steals second.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Apr 4, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

i promise i won't ask again

but what is bsohl mean.oh wait best shape of his life.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Erik Bedard actually pitching in a big league game deserves more than a cursory mention.

He’s not doing very well.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Nelson Cruz still owns though.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Apr 4, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Texas 4 – 0 another Cruz home run

For a game in Texas, Bedard did okay

Whenever fortune smiles on you, someone else got the frown

by meercatjohn on Apr 4, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

watching Butler shoot is like, oh nevermind

best thing on in my hotel room that doesn’t cost $14.99

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 4, 2011 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I am hoping no one else makes a 2pt basket

Right now both teams 2 pt field goals are tied with Bill Walton’s 21 in 1973

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

there will be a cheap hoop or two likely

Had a PJ Clarke’s burger tonight, first time in a decade, was really really good

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 4, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

the butler kids look like they are shooting blind folded by sound

and you got your wish eh?

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 4, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

connecticut wins best is show

horrible line, really contrived

by Hollywood Joe on Apr 4, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a dog owner

and assume Christopher Guest fan, you should storm the Black Tower (CBS)

by bhsportsguy on Apr 4, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

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