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Brewers In Town For Two: Stumbling Towards The Same Goal

Manager: Ex-Dodger Ron Roenicke (19 - 21)  - Debut season for Roenicke who was the Dodgers number one pick 1977 out of UCLA with the 17th pick overall. Ron made it up to the Dodgers in 1981, don't know if he was given a full share or ring for his 54 pathetic plate appearances or not.  By 1983 we had released him. Not much impact for a number one pick, but if you look at the 1977 draft, the first round was as useless as a pen in TJ Simers hand. Hubie Brooks stands out, and if he stands out something is amiss.

Current: (19 - 21)

Outlook: Right now the Brewers are two games under .500 due to their 6 - 15 road record. The pitching has been fine on the road, so I expect the hitters are just hitting into bad luck but I didn't dig deep into this anomaly. These teams are very similar, two franchise hitters (Fielder/Braun versus Kemp/Ethier), one above average injury prone middle infielder (Richie Weeks versus Rafy Furcal), a top three rotation (Grienke/Gallardo/Marcum versus Kershaw/Billingsley/Kuroda), and the suspect bullpen. The Brewers should have more if Corey Hart could perform but so far he has not.  Billingsley and Gallardo are two of the better young right handed pitchers in the league who have already thrown over 500 innings. Marcum and Kuroda may have to face off for the prize of most underrated pitcher of the last several years. The Brewers have used six starters so far this year and not one has an xFIP over 4.00. Zach Grienke has made three starts since coming off the DL and has an ERA of 6.60 with an xFIP of 1.61.

Disabled List: Manny Parra, Nyjer Morgan, Zach Braddock, Takashi Saito, Brandon Kintzler

Old Friends: Randy Wolf, Takashi Saito, Craig Counsell

Positions:

1st Base: Prince Fielder  hit 199 home runs before his 27th birthday.  He turned 27 on May 9th and has hit two more since then giving him 201 career home runs. A quick look shows that only 25 players in the history of baseball have hit 200 home runs by their 27th birthday.  Prince reminds me of Boog Powell (he's on that list), so if history is right, whoever signs Prince to that six year deal is going to get production but nothing like what he's already done. Many have asked are the Dodgers a contending team if Prince is on the team instead of Loney?  I don't know, what I do know is that I think the Brewers have a better team, and even with Prince they are struggling to reach .500.

2nd Base:  Rickie Weeks best offensive 2nd baseman in the NL with Chase nursing his ailments. The Brewers made the right move to extend him until 2015.

Shortstop: Luckily for the NL Central the Brewers have Yuniesky  Betancourt who might be worst SS in the NL. Eventually the Giants will probably stop playing Tejada or he might start hitting, that won't happen with Yuniesky.

3rd Base: Casey McGehee continues to be an above average 3rd baseman. He's solid.

Catcher: Jonathan LuCroy might be the Brewer no one has heard off, but this no name catcher  is dealing. As of this moment he has the 2nd highest wOBA (.385), wRC (142), OPS+(142) for catchers in the NL.  That is exactly DOUBLE what he did in 2010 in 297 plate apprearances so he should be primed for one heck of a slump,

Right Fielder: Corey Hart came off the DL a few weeks ago and has yet to do anything of note. A year ago he was one of the best offensive right fielders in the game leading all NL right fielders in home runs with 31. 

Center Fielder: Carlos Gomez is what I expect Dee Gordon to become. A plus defensive player, with plus plus speed who never is able to translate that speed into becoming a useful offensive player. The one time centerpiece of the Johan Santana deal is now 1500 plate appearances into a career that has never seen a .300 OB%. He's not the worst offensive CF in the NL but he's in the conversation. What sets Carlos Gomez apart is his plus defensive skills, which is good because he's surrounded by some defensive hacks.

Left Fielder: Ryan Braun has bounced back from what for him was an off year to have his best season since his rookie year. He's peeking at a 1.000 OPS, driven down by a slow May, but unfortunately for us he's heated up again in the past week.

Bench: Nyjer Morgan is on the DL. Somehow, at the age of 40, Craig Counsell is stll playing major league baseball.

Starting Pitching:

 Dodger/Brewer Matchups
Game# Matchup Fave Win% Total Runs
1 Shawn Marcum versus Garland MIL 52 7.2
2 Randy Wolf versus Kuroda MIL


Shawn Marcum is the epitome  of a  pitcher. The Brewers engineered a great trade this winter bringing in Marcum but the price was the highly touted Brett Lawrie. The trade should help both teams; moving from the AL East to the NL central was expected to do wonders for Marcum and so far that is holding true. Entering tonight's game he has the 10th best WAR in the NL with an xFIP of 3.11. Right now he's hitting on all cylinders, a K rate over 9, a walk rate under 2.50, His Achilles heal is a ground ball rate of only 34%, but pitching on a cold night in Los Angeles against the powerless lineup he need not worry about fly balls.

Mind you he does all all this with a fastball that averages 86 MPH. He gets away with this because he throws five pitches with control, using his fastball / change up about 30% of the time each.

You all know more then enough about Randy Wolf.

Setup: Cameron Loe, Sergio Mitre, Sean Green, and WAL Mitch Stetter make up the bullpen. Three pitchers from opening day are on the DL noted above.

Closer: John Axford blew some saves early but still controls the job. For the most part he's adequate, gave up three hits in his last save.

Matchup Notes: 

The Brewers have a ridiculous 6 - 15 record on the road which is not indicative of the talent on this team. It must normalize and it will probably start right now. I expect Marcum to carve up this Dodger lineup, can Garland hold suit? Doubt it.

Kuroda will win Tuesday night, because the Wolf will not survive.

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back in the day

Disney – family, young children
Knotts – date
Magic Mountain – manic fun

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Why did Knotts appeal for dates?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

cheaper and less crowded I imagine, with a younger skewing crowd

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

arts and crafty, more simplistic rides, better food, walking stick ducks named Zoey:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

that slide show yesterday had a bunch of family photos from the 60s. Crazy that the park hasn’t changed at all since then

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I would agree. I would also think Magic is a date place too…. Disneyland can be for couples too, but more of a im in love dates, not I just wanna bang dates. I still love disneyland, im a big kid. It just brings back so many memories, and I just like the fantasy of it all. Oh and star tours which I hear has a new 3D ride or something. Good thing I have a daughter, she is my excuse to go. But I’d be lying if I said im not as excited to go as her, if not more so haha

by uschris0304 on May 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

this talk about amusement park dating

reminds me of a funny story. I was a young lad(I don’t remember how old I was but I couldn’t have been much older than 10) and we were at Disneyland, riding the Haunted Mansion. Two “doombuggys” in front of us, a couple was making out, and there was another couple in front of us that had full view of it. The ride stopped for a second, and we were sitting in complete silence. All of a sudden, from the buggy in front of us we heard “NO I WILL NOT KISS YOU FOR A DOLLAR!!” and then a loud WHACK! I was guessing the couple in front of us were poking fun at the two who were making out.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disneyland is great for dates if you buy an annual pass

but thats a big investment. I’ve done it and it works out great.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Knott’s annual pass is only $10 more than regular admission. Less crowded, food is better, and you can ride 50 year old rides that don’t star Mr. Toad

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hint

ride Splash Mountain, head for Mr. toad’s to dry off in hell.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

or have something

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have nothing but fond memories of Mr. Toad’s Wild ride.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

did someone kiss you for a dollar?

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

quickest callback ever?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want I love you, but he pays me.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Short lines and it was near the sword in the stone.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is like saying that the trip to Mars was better than the yellow Submarine.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what either of those things are, but I love autopia!

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

autopia cars suck now

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean Autopia

Cars!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

so Autopia is Cars, and they’re building a Cars land? This is why I don’t go to Disney, things change too much.

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josie making stuff up again

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont want to make accusations. But sounds like maybe she has issues from being taken to Knotts as a kid instead of Disneyland like all the other kids. Or maybe not.

by uschris0304 on May 16, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

EVERY YEAR! At the end of every school year we went to Knott’s. We only went to D-land once, at the end of 8th grade

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you don't have kids

and/or didn’t go yourself as a kid, I could see how one wouldn’t get into disneyland. I just don’t really like knotts yes it has rollercoaster but the atmosphere is… bleh. Disneyland is much nicer.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with this. If you didnt go yourself as a kid that would take alot away from it, probably even if you have kids. But disney is a brand that was installed in me from birth. From Disney characters, to the shows, to the movies, and ofcourse disneyland. Ive never seen a debate between Disney and Knotts though. its usually between disneyland and Magic. If one feels disneyland rides are lame, usually Magic Mountain is the place they like better.

by uschris0304 on May 16, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that argument always misses the point

Disneyland is an experience, not just a place you go to to ride roller coasters. Some people aren’t into that, and some people are, but people who bag on Dland cause their rides aren’t roller coaster enough are missing the point.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Autopia is not Cars-themed at all. If anything, it is Chevron claymation cars themed.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

they why did Tommy say “Autopia, Cars!”?

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is one of lifes great mysteries

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

all part of an evil plot to confuse you!

seriously though, i remember it being the Chevron thing, but I had heard it was Cars themed now, apparently that was wrong.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

you'll still get cookies

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can count on two fingers

the people here I trust enough to quote

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA

where misinformation is a way of life

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re building a Cars-themed land at California Adventures, which will presumably include something Autopia-ish. Regular Autopia is un-Disney-movie-themed altogether.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It used to be half alven and the chipmunks themed, now it just sucks

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

less fun, and not as much fun to just wander around.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

7.2 runs

yeowch

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Craig Counsell

was never my friend

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Isnt it Kameron Loe?

and why does that name sound so familiar. I know he went to CSUN, did he got to HS in the valley? Like Cleveland high maybe?

by uschris0304 on May 16, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

It is. And Granada, I think.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I just fixed the mistake his parents made.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

or maybe it was Granada High… oh well

by uschris0304 on May 16, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

A coworker mentioned his dad did landscaping for his parents

They lived somewhere around porter ranch in chatsworth. Nice houses over there

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on May 16, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

David Young might be a neighbor.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in the older, perhaps oldest, part of Porter Ranch.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Granada Hills HS. Like John Elway before him.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

SO how long until Wade Phillips gets fired? As soon as someone in the new ownership finds his phone number to call him? After the season? MLB network already talking about how they want a saber minded GM and would love to get Friedman (if at all possible)

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

You mean the Defensive Coordinator of the Texans?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps I have forgotten how to spell, I mean the GM of the Rays

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shit i meant Ed Wade sorry

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The GM of the Astros?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah yeah i was like... wtf?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean Steve? Because I don’t give a crap about whoever hired Wade to coordinate.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Short of a new Dodgers owner coming in, firing Ned and paying gobs of money to hire Friedman away from TB, he’ll be there a while. If MLB is looking for a SABR friendly GM, why would they be looking at Ed Wade? Or did you actually mean “saber” and figured he and Shawn Chacon would have a swordfight?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he means Jim Crane, the new Houston owner, wants to make changes.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he also said MLB network is hoping to add Friedman as an analyst.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the financial side? But Milton Friedman is dead.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodger defense at least could use an extra pair of invisible hands.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

because you can’t have too many obscure economics references

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was the sale price?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

like $680 million

i think

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Astros can sell for $680mil….

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure the price of the Dodgers

has been speculated at upwards of $800 million

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a stat in the fangraphs comment section in the article on Jose Bautista that completely blew my mind (other than the fact that hes on pace for the best offensive season in the history of the game)- his slugging percentage would qualify as the 29th best OPS in the entire league. That’s just not fair.

by UCLADodger32 on May 16, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I have to figure this out

I will probably be in Long Beach at the SABR convention that night but I need to get one of these

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like a character from Team America

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

that looks more Russ Mitchell than Dre

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

they aged his face too much, and it’s the wrong shape. Still, SUPER WANT!

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't the eyes much too close together?

I think if you change the nose shape, it looks more like Nomar.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it looks like Aaron Miles.

by kinbote on May 16, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a smidge Jim Morrison, the dead rock star, not the ex-MLBer.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chin Too-Long would be a cool baseball name.

by kinbote on May 16, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahhahahahaha

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

No problema

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

best

East LA band ever, the only real question with Los Lobos are they the best LA band ever? Tough competition

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a big fan of the Doors, but I think they’d have to take this one.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

my three favorite LA bands all peaked during the same era – X, Los Lobos, Blasters.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

X, Jane’s Addiction, ?

I’d nominate LL as the definitive LA band.

by kinbote on May 16, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

not that they'd make this conversation

but Maroon 5, RHCP, and Linkin Park are all from LA

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are we considering LA?

Beach Boys, Black Eyed Peas (kiddiNg), Byrds, Eagles, Chili Peppers, Van Halen.

Ratt..

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering none of the Eagles are actually from L.A., they’d be tough to let win.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Formed in LA, maybe? Dunno. You’re correct, and it’s likely Wikipedia (who knew) could be wrong.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are considered an L.A. band because they backed Linda Ronstadt and formed here, I believe, but they just can’t be #1 in my book without any locals.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

RHCP would merit consideration. Phantom Planet, Incubus and Linkin Park would not.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

RHCP v. Sublime for LA’s official alternative band?

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has Berkeley declared Green Day the winner over Counting Crows in their version of same?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

thought Green Day was from Oakland?

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Green Day played Gilman St. so they’re alright.

But I think Green Day loses to Rancid

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying Sublime is from Long Beach instead of L.A. Berkeley is the sexier city in East Bay.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't say Sublime is from LBC

they said they were from the LBC

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, they are from the LBC. So do they not qualify as an L.A. band? Are the Beach Boys ineligible since they’re from Hawthorne?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they aren't from LA then no they don't qualify

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

but that counts out Santa Monica, Pasadena, Beverly Hills, West Hollywood….

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

well when i thikn LA I think LA county

hawthorne is in LA county so it counts. Most of the planet don’t know the difference

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long Beach is LA County.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure it is. Seal Beach is in OC.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long beach has its own character I guess

just like Hollywood. As always, there is no hard and fast rule.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

oooh but then you have places like Lancaster

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lancaster matters?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly other then a few places LA is all one big blob to me

I was going to say this probably makes my opinions invalid, but then again I have the outsiders opinion/impressions/insights(lol) and that is valuable, right?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

no less valid than Josie’s

/burn

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

man nola, Eric respects the hell outta you : )

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to pretend this is true

regardless of what Phil says

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric is not from LA

he has no say in this manner.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on May 16, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It sure doesn't

Just a bunch of houses surrounding billion dollar flying machines

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on May 16, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Hey Kevin McHale, how many bolts are there in the Boston Garden?”

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are Los Angeles County number of bolts

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry, perhaps I didn’t drink enough coffee to boot my brain this morning.

I don’t care what city is “sexier”, I was asking where Green Day was from. Why this suddenly took a trip into ArgumentativeTown, I’m not sure, but I just wanted to know if they were from Oakland because my friend who worked for them said that’s where they were from.

As from Sublime being from the LBC, we seem to agree that they are from that place so whatever.

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize I was arguing. Wasn’t my intention. Green Day can fairly be considered either an “Oakland band” or a “Berkeley band.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should be considered a Has-Band.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey, their last two albums have shown a great maturity into a U2 level band

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not discrediting my Has-Band joke in the slightest. U2 – also a Has-Band.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

bingo

again

populary irrelevant is my phrase

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think of Long Beach as LA

I don’t think most people in OC do.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone does

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think of it as Long Beach

it is certainly not behing the orange curtain, but it ain’t quite LA

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long Beach is actually half and half, though I can’t remember where the line is. Long Beach is Long Beach. The Angels were gonna move to Long Beach, but the city wanted them to be the Long Beach Angels. So they moved some corn and build Anaheim Stadium

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

and 30 years later changed their name to Anaheim anyways

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

well Anaheim grew some cojones, an still got the old reach around

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

while I know many people dislike LP on principle

they’re kind of the best band out there in terms of tours and longevity. /shrug

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Social D

Once saw X, Social D, and Jane’s Addiction on the same bill. Went solo, between wifes, most fun I’ve ever had at a show.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

is Long Beach considered LA?

Bradley told me many times that “the sublime style’s still straight from Long Beach”

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

the South Bay girl is now sad, but it’s okay since I occasionally dis the valley

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t the South Bay technically a different city than Los Angeles? Cos I actually live in Los Angeles, even if it is in the Valley.

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, the communities that make up the South Bay

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

San Pedro, Wilmington, Harbor City are all in LA.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

my grandparents live in Harbor City, and I would gone to HS in Wilmington despite my Carson address, so yes, I claim city of LA status : )

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snobby me says Yes. Me in any other part of the country when asked where I’m from says “LA”.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it is easier to live in your own incorporated city like Redondo or Carson

as opposed to living in the mass conglomeration that makes up LA in terms of telling people where you live.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite LA Bands

X
Los Lobos
Blasters
Minutemen
Top Jimmy & the Rhythm Pigs
Germs

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know any of those bands.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minutemen are bad dudes! My HS band was recorded by the guy who recorded the Minutemen : )

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Double Nickels on the Dime

may be the best album of the 80’s IMO

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ever see that doc about D Boon?

Not a great film but some rare footage of him and the band and cool interviews make it worthy for fans. I had the audio cassette of that double nickels mofo in high school.

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe, because the are all over 30 years old

/old fart

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minutemen

are not LA.

They are San Pedro

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

we are becoming autonomous next year

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

now we see the violence

inherent in the system

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

it starts with a flotilla blockade of the harbor

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by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be more interested if they used tortilla’s.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

most delicious blockade ever

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

harbor water soaked tortillas do not sound delicious

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Use the Corn Tortillas

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if I'm the only one catching Tommy's monty python refs today ;-)

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll have something in common with other luminary cities as Vernon, Lawndale and Cudahy. Congrats!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always consider Pedro as LA

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

can i get a good burger in DT?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Downtown?

Petes on 4th and Main is good. Blue Star on 15th is very good

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i will maybe try one of those today

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by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You going to the game tonight? Perfect evening to lower the Dodger flaps.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i didn’t bring that hat with me today.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I put three in the truck, one has flaps but is not a Dodger hat, it is blue and it is warm. Going to be cold tonight

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for letting me know. i have not been outside today.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blue star has been verified

good stuff

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marty is my guy
Probably
.
my three favorite LA bands all peaked during the same era – X, Los Lobos, Blasters.
.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
.
by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I admit

I am partial to The Doors

Still.

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

They broke on through the test of time

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one sounds like them and after all these years I kind of find fear, sex ,and death kinda fun

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but they were my older brothers band, while X was my band. I have different feelings for both bands but love them both. Best part Ray Manzarek was a vital link between the two.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am way too young for the Doors, a little too young for X, the right age for all kinds of new wave androgeny I find blech. I was mostly a KLOS guy… Never could commit all the way to Punk, was a little too vain and found the look not to my liking. Did dig the violence of the sound and slamming until noses bled
  
I have to come clean, I am now really into some late 90’s remixes with old timely lady voices like Sarah Vaughn and Shirley Bassie and other shit like that. Also really into afro-cubano, and Brazilian jazz from the 60’s

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Germs – brings me back to the days of skating pools poorly

You no likie Ozo?

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Phil

I hope you don’t mind that I added a picture to your story. Just felt like the front page was missing something with back-to-back photoless articles.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I find the search function sucks, they should list the photos you search for by descending date. So I said fuck it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

All you have to do for that is either

(1) hit search again once the first results come up; or
(2) select the search tab first instead of typing the search from the ‘start’ menu

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now you fucking tell me.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s in the FAQ

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sucks

anyone know of someone looking for a car? :)

Also, who let James Roday model Dre’s bobble head?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

ooooh

where were you 2 weeks ago?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

two weeks ago I was still trying to sell my car. I just feel shameful saying something here.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, I see

my older brother was car shopping, but he found one he liked and bought it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine was sticker 31k, talked em down to 24, full warranty put it back to 30, I now owe about 27k on it over the next five years and while I could keep making the payments without issue, I’d really like to put that money towards rent and getting out of my parent’s place.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

word

i almost have my car paid off.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My son

Can you drive it out to MD for me?

by Greg Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me and Mrs. Dave

will be in DS tonight. No STREAK discount though; we’ll be in bhsportsguy’s seats.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

She’s still upset she had to take your first and last names in the marriage.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My cousin got seats in the Dugout Club tonight. I’ll be living the dream.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Soccer question

What’s the deal with Freddy Adu? I see he’s been on like 15 different clubs and the guys still only 21. Was him being signed at 14 year old just a PR move that made no sense (either at the time or in hindsight) ? Why would guys bounce around these lower division leagues in Europe instead of playing in MLS?

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

He was great as a 14 year old.

Never grew any bigger. He gets bumped off the ball so easy. He is too expensive to come back to MLS.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

and if he came back, he’d have to play for Chivas

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

IF they want to sign him. They can pass.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

look at you Mr. “I can’t get into MLS” : )

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

so what, I know the rules.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect he’d rather be paid in money than booze.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

A 2nd division team from Eastern Turkey can afford him, but an MLS squad can’t?

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Benfica is really paying for him.

And MLS teams have a cap and prolly don’t want to take that chance.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

and it’s a tiny cap, unless they bring him on as a Designated Player. But he hasn’t been successful enough to earn that

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm very disappointed about Adu

I saw him a few times when he played for DC United, he showed a great potential but he never reached that in Europe although he played for some different European teams: Benfica Lisbon (Portugal), AS Monaco (France), Turkey and Holland League…

I think it was so much pressure on him because the great Pele claims him as the next Pele, so he was too young to take a deep breath…

Anyway, I’m very worried abour Jozy Altidore for the same reasons…

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly think the best young American player is still playing in the US, Juan Agudelo of NY Red Bulls

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heared some good things about him but I never saw him yet…

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s got a real creative mind, rare in American soccer players

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man he's most impressive, at least the few times I've seen him

that one US friendly he played in recently, he lit things up.

Yeah he and Altidore could do great things but at this point I have more faith in Juan’s career maybe…

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not have faith in Bradley using the midfield properly to get them the service they need to dominate.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a fair concern

we’ll see… sometimes i just hope talent wins out over dull coaching.

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

but i’m not really anti-Bradley either.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, that basically describes me too

I think he’s smart and has done a fairly good job, but isn’t necessarily as creative and flexible tactically as they need to get to that next level.

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

it seems like they are always one injured MF from being better. like holden this summer.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The “Lebron” of MLS?

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like he didn’t even become the Adrian Beltre of MLS

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is funny. But I was trying to stick with the minor signing with the major league team thing.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Morgan

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Joel Guzman?

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric

how is Giada’s head so large yet the rest of her so small?

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Not all of the rest of her is small

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posted only for science.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

she seems thinner up top in today’s episode of everyday italian

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you suggesting that the Dodgers should have a Giada bobblehead giveaway?

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

the tie in would be fantastic. get foodies in the stadium. or guys who really like staring at Giada’s rack.

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

that really feels more like an Angels promotion

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

then maybe the Dodgers can steal people away from the OC whose names don’t end in -olander

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those should bobble too

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Helps if I read further down

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

First every Booblehead?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

so

13 more for Bautista, possible

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry if my eariler post was confusing, MLB Network was talking about Jim Crane buying the team and the network started talking about how the ASTROS would like a saber minded GM and that they would like to get Tampa GM Andrew Friedman to be GM of the Astros (if possible).

Just wondering how soon they would go about firing Ed Wade, since we could find ourselves in a similar situation soon (regardless of how you feel about Colletti)

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I were Crane

I would have movers come in and pack up Ed Wade’s shit today.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I don’t doubt this, but really, there’s no particular rush. As long as you have the replacement lined up and ready to go by the off-season, you can take your time with it.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what his contract status but I imagine if they want Friedman they would have to wait until the off season

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade is signed through

2012.

The Rays management team doesn’t have signed contracts with the team.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wade

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to go over and help pack McCourt and Colletti’s shit, any day any time :D

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this Dodger team a threat, hypothetically, with a Jose Bautista?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

unless we traded Kemp and Etheir for him

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

if Jamey Carroll gets on base, and then someone can homer him in, then that’s 2 runs where there are normally 0

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

Makes more sense than any piece of analysis ever uttered by krukcliffe or anyone else I’ve seen on espn in the last 10 years

by lchristmas on May 16, 2011 2:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

until they try to change his swing to go the other way all the time.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are the Dodgers a threat with Albert
                                     with Votto
                                     with Ryan Braun

I don’t understand these questions.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think my Aramis Ramirez and, to a lesser extent, Carlos Beltran trade thoughts are totally feasible.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'd kick ass with heyday era Ty Cobb

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck, we wanted Berkman for $8Mil/1 year, i’m sure waiting for Raffy and Beard would have been easier with him.

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raffy and the Beard, 70s sitcom? Buddy action show?

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by David Young on May 16, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Viva Los Lobos

not so much Randy Lobo

by lchristmas on May 16, 2011 2:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I answered some questions from Nicole Haase (if it’s prounounced like Don Aase, aawesoke!) at Brew Crew Ball.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I’d have been tickkled if it was ex Brewer Moose Haas

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Christopher Mintz-Plasse.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun stuff

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers have scored fewer runs than the Padres this season!

:(

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang, Yanks going up against the Beast from the East Tampa Bay Rays, going to be fun if they own um after what everyone said in the offseason

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Will the Yankmees bat Jeter at the bottom of the order this year? I knew this what happen and just hope it costs um a trip to the postseason. :)

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Regarding the Yankees…nobody here cares about um

Fuck um

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our crazy teen - ager disagrees

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

terrible question

would the Dodgers want to trade for someone like McGehee?

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

That is a terrible question

you didnt capitolize your first word nor nothin.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, would the Brewers be interested in trading him, No

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

As an answer

It seems unlikely. I expect any offensive upgrades to take place on the corner infield positions first.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is a corner infielder

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was a LF. That’s my bad.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was thinking Corey Hart, also not a RF, but an OF.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever

I give up.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

so are you still at that point where you get excited to see her name in the new comments popup?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as the Four Horsemen are not involved.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chapman

So what do you guys make of him walking 12 batters in 1 1/3 inning?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he was injured

based on the fact they put him on the dl because he is injured

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

brilliant

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phantom? I heard someone say Blass disease.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anxiety Disorder
coming to a stadium near you
catch it
unless Kuo throws it

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow
Lineup swircheroo: Commish Hummel confirms Pujols starting 3B, Punto to 2B. Berkman tells me hes playing 1B. Craig in RF tonight #stlcards

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Please do this 9 more times

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roto? Does that make him the best 3B in the game?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the math is tricky. He’s the best player in baseball, not sure if moving from 1st to 3rd would make him the best 3rd baseman in baseball or not.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

By that logic

If he’s the best player in baseball, why does position eligibility matter?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I can find more 1st baseman then 3rd baseman because 3rd base blows these days.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed this comment thoroughly.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last time Albert Pujols started a game at 3B

9/22/2002, Chuck Finley was the starter, JD Drew and Jim Edmonds were in the outfield and Tino Martinez started at 1B.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are just breaking that ligament good, right in time to screw who ever pays him a bazillionth dollars next year

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time flies

JD Drew will be a free agent again this winter.

Boston paid him 14,000,000 to OPS .793 in 2010. In the four year deal so far, two great years, two bleh years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

no creo guey

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cardinals to ruin best player in baseball so Nick Punto can get at bats. Seems about right.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does this relate to Punto?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols moves to third so Berkman can move to first so Allen Craig can move to right so Nick Punto can move to second.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the ligament pops like an old rubber band on a cold morning

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

More accurately it’s Pujols moves to third because Cardinals were the only team in baseball that didn’t realize putting Berkman in the outfield was a bad idea, but that’s not as fun.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not quite fair.

Craig is not a second baseman he is an outfielder
Berkman is not an outfielder anymore he is a first baseman
Albert can probably play 3rd better then anyone on the team other then Punto, but then you still don’t have a 2nd baseman.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Craig isn’t a second baseman, but that sure as hell didn’t stop the temporary LaRussa from playing him there.

Plus there’s the whole Pujols’ arm might come off issue.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know the Carson/Long Beach border is the midpoint between Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium? I couldn’t tell you what intersection is the exact midpoint, but it’s somewhere around there

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Is there a sign?

Or are you just bored and looked that up?

by Greg Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

she is obsessed with geogrophy

as it pertains to allowing her to be a hipster

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

when the MLB At Bat app looks up nearby stadiums for me, i’m about 2 miles closer to DS than Angel stadium. So I figure with my math skilz that the equidistant point must be to the east a bit, which would be the Carson/LB border

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

mlb atbat11 tells me that angels stadium is closer to my house than DS

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh, maybe I was wrong, and the midpoint is south of me not east of me.

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have the tools to figure this out

brb

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My calculaations put it right around slauson and sorenson

but I might be off a bit

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess so

I did it by “hand” so i might be a little off north or south wise

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, on a straight line, but there’s a curve you have to draw from there to make the middle line, right?

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geometry

All points equidistant to two points lie on the perpendicular bisector of the segment that connects those points.

So, what you’d do is draw the segment that connects DS and Big Thunder Mountain II. Measure that distance and divide it by 2 to determine the midpoint. Draw the perpendicular to that segment through the midpoint. Any point on that new line should be equidistant from DS and BTM2.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 16, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, obsessed with geogrophy

and yet directionally challenged. That’s quite the combo

by Greg Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

well Angel Stadium ain’t South a me, it’s….damn it’s East!

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

She’s the cook without knife skills
The baker who can’t need
The sailor who can’t tie knots
The gourmand without taste buds

ok, I am bored with myself now

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

After Basic Training I never had to tie a knot.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next time we meet

we can race to see who can tie a bowline and sheep shank faster.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You Win, I used the space in my memory to store up more pictures of Kaylee from Fire Fly

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

While watching Firefly over the past few weeks I’ve been unable to decide. They all have their plusses. Even Terminator done right would be in the mix.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kaylee can diagnose what is wronge with

Your engine on her back while doing other things. Woman is ever so talented. And she loves strawberries.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

As the crow flies

actual driving mileage, or time traveled?

by Greg Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in Hollywood (shocking, I know) the only way you are getting me to an Angel game is if a Helicopter lands on my roof and whisks me away

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or If you took the Red line to Union Station and then to the LA to San Diego Train, one of the stops is Angel Stadium.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Maryland?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be sweet

if Maryland was still exclusively catholic

would make the name make more sense

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe you wouldn’t have moved there

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers lineup - Sands sits again

Carroll SS
Miles 2B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Uribe 3B
Loney 1B
Gibbons LF
Barajas C
Garland P

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Why hit Barajas 8th?

/I know, I know, why must somebody always complain about the lineup

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe 5th, Loney 6th, LF – 7th is the real killer for this team. I’m afraid to even look at the OPS numbers for those spots in the lineup less I lose my wonderful lunch.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he can bunt Gibbons over for Jon “RBI Man” Garland

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like he is now only going to start against LHP until Thames comes back. I don’t have a problem with this, Marcus would have eaten him alive.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

did he PH after he was PH for by Navarro on Saturday?

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got 2 AB yesterday, including the game-ender

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

right, ok.

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I resent Cain, his dorky goofy look, and the fact that he is always better than I say he is

That dude is the opposite Andy LaRoche, two guys I could not have been more wrong about

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerry Pounds Sand(s) again

That is the NY POST headline if Gerald was a heralded Met prospect sitting

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should have traded Sands on April 17th

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish Jerry would have done something awesome Friday

So I could have used the headline: “Friday the 13th: J.Sands Lives”

or if he was traded to the Mets or Yankees on Friday: “Friday the 13th: J.Sands Takes Manhattan”

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wish he had done something awesome besides throw out two runners, hit a few singles / doubles to right field, and win me some beer.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It took parts of 3 seasons and turning 25

but Jose Bautista did not hit his first career home run until his 128th PA in his first full season with the Pirates in 2006.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

way to talk us off the cliff

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Tyner didn’t hit his first career homer until several thousand PA into his career.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a little confusing

it was his 128th career PA, but it happened in 2006, which was the first season he played regularly for the Pirates.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to be this guy

but its not like Jerry Sands hasn’t hit a ball that wouldn’t have been a homer if it weren’t for the marlins having a stupid stadium

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

you love being that guy and we love you for it

if not for you, one of use would have to say it, now we just wait

and viola

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hate that fucking clock so much

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

don’t hate the clock, hate the time

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not like it would make a big difference to his overall performance

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that this line up is better than yesterdays starting line up.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

how can you tell? Are you squinting?

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

and it’s green

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Castro
No Navarro

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things have come to a point

that when Golden Rod is playing, it is a good thing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats cause Golden Rod has been hitting

right now I kinda want him 5th.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point I would feel better having A.J. up and DFA Navarro, let him work out the problems he is having in AAA (if the Pirates let him through waivers) and bring him up later in the year. I don’t think that he is ready to perform at this time.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not agree with this comment because it will get me in trouble here :)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Did it seem like we all jumped on you?

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah, not on a personal level, but it was a vociferous, spirited response, let's say. ;-)

I made some minor retractions to my initial rant about Navarro and vowed to be more patient, through some teeth-gritting.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't just you

just the sentiment that he had had nothing but the ugliest at bats ever that was going on that day. You where in the wrong place at the wrong time

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Draft demands
jimcallisBA
Sticker shock: Teams being told asking price on Dylan Bundy is 6 yrs, $30 million. For Archie Bradley, 5 yrs and $20 million. #mlbdraft

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope

One day to be in the position to make outrageous demands that are based on potential and not value

eToys and ePets kinda fucked that up for us business guys, really hoping to catch the next wave…

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I demand to know what Jughead wants in this market.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

100 hamburgers

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

brilliant

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

brilliant

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

have to say I’m stunned that even a few know the characters of the Archie comic books.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to read them a lot as a kid. My sister also loved them and has been Jughead for Halloween for the past three years

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josie and the Pussy Cats

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

best answer,

though a foursome might be needed to make final judgment. Yes, I know I’m not capable of handling a threesome but since they are make believe I can make believe I can handle three make believe hotties.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

even numbers are always easier

I think Hemmingway called them “A moveable feast”

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not know that last year

in the Archie comic books, Archie got together with Valerie Smith for the first interracial dating relationship he has had.

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d have to think the parents figure heavily into this

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Unpaid advisor”: So do you want to get paid? Or do you want to GET PAID.

Draft pick: I want to GET PAID.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't help myself

Jamey Carroll does not lead off enough
1st – OPS .598
Fifth – OPS .602
Sixth – OPS – .530
Seventh – OPS – .649

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally!

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

josie

quick highlights for you from yesterday’s edition of the greatest sports rivalry on earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DOJKbrNVuI

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Wonder if we should look at Jason Michaels as a bench talent. He’s shown pop and patience in the past.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

if we signed him

I would call him “Hair Band”

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t cost more than a C minus prospect (Antonini?). Worth a look.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s doing pretty well for a guy that I assumed was out of baseball three years ago.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He used to be a SABR wet dream as I recall.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Decent pop, got on base and played a decent centerfield.

Then we learned why he wasn’t playing every day.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

why?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t hit right handed pitching worth a damn.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds important.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh totally, but when he’s not starting he’s been one of the best fourth outfielders in the league.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree. He’d just be the Jay Gibbons of Jay Gibbonses for us.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without the entertaining defense.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

First Harmon

and now another name from KC Royals glamor days in 70s. May you find some rest at the end of this difficult journey Paul Splittorf

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe one day James Loney will go down the Jose Bautista route

by dodgerpreacher on May 16, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Jose Bautista: giving you hope in your crappy players since 2010.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

If James Loney ever hit 50 HR in a season, I would personally obtain a vile of his blood for lab work.

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on May 16, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

shit.. I might do it if ever hit more than 20

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on May 16, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baller as shit.

What the hell is a Red Bull SLPT and why does it cost 50 bucks.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

SLPT you a RFY in your Red Bull.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hammer dropped on NFLPA
AdamSchefter
Owners now have the leverage. This is a complete win for the owners. Players are in trouble, based on judge’s words in this ruling.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Cliffs notes version

What happened?

My (perhaps naive) belief that the NFL would be much cleaner than the labor troubles in the NBA has led me to completely neglect following this story, so I have no idea what’s goin on.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Judge granted the stay and the lockout will remain. I can’t really explain the legalese of it all.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

"LEGALESE"

Al Davis’ favorite word

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

the next fight is June 3rd, but owners look like they have a favorable judge for them

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

basically reporters and analysts on twitter are all saying

it’s a favorable ruling but it may be good news for fans in the sense that it likely forces the two sides to come to an agreement sooner. Favorable ruling or not, NFL owners still need there not to be games missed. Basically everyone’s going to lose if this drags on too much longer.

Court was about leverage; it now swings in owners favor but many owners are nervous & want a deal done. Players now have to get a deal done
Among many other tweets I just read along similar lines, Chris Mortensen wrote:
Owners still need a collective bargaining agreement to re-gain anti-trust exemption. Incentive for both sides is there.
NFL needs NFL Players….NFL Players need NFL. They will solve it sooner than later.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

(sorry, the "among many..." line should be before the quotes)

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw that BA posted a story about Lee having "Baseball smarts"...

Is the article about him informing his coaches about his elbow issue instead of playing through it?

by Julio Nievas on May 16, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Baseball smarts meaning “smart, when compared to other baseball players.”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Besides being a great pitcher, Lee is also a scratch golfer and champion wrestler.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He never would have made it as a football player. No toughness.

:)

Baseball smarts doesn’t have anything to do with “my elbow hurts, I should stop using it” and more to do with “This guy holds his hands a little high, I’m going to jam him”.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

stop talking like that

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which part?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing the part where you jam the hitter :)

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

MIKE BROKE MY FRIGGIN BAT LAST NIGHT.

Dude owes me a woody. I don’t care how that sounds. If you played, that’s what you say. If you didn’t play and never even held a wood bat in a competitive game, feel free to drop a TWSS in the complaint box.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I need to bone my bat before I use it next time.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why don’t they use wood bats in little league? Is it a weight issue?

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

money

and kids suck, and metal makes them better

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

“What you broke the bat already? No I’m not buying you a new one”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a different swing with wood vs metal. You have to hit it on the sweet spot or it breaks. If you hit it on the label, it breaks. If you hit it off the end as most kids do, it breaks. As a result, cost.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

that being said

why on earth would you and Mike buy wooden bats?

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 16, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better feel, better sound and a more manly feeling about how you play the game.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I play in a wood bat league

and I chose a wood bat league, because I want to play with um, wood bats

but if my league allowed Metal, I would be hitting with the hottest legal thing I could buy

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which would cost about 7-10 times more then a wood bat

assuming I am remebering wood bats being like 30-40 and top end metal bats being over 200 right

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

can get cheapo wood bats for 20 at most sporting goods places not named Sports Chalet. Can get a cheap metal that’ll lose its pop but continue to be a metal bat for 120 bucks or so. Same ratio, though.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

nicest bat I ever(and still do) owned

My brother had that crazy connexion bs.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had a Connexion. Hit one ball off the connector and then had a wobbly metal bat.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those things died quicker then any other metal bat evor

My dad was able to send his bat in 3 years in a row and get them to give him a new one somehow, and I think the connexion was just what they sent him the first time.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

top end wood cost $100+ each

good wood bats cost $70 each

sporting good store wood has open grain and break way too fast for adults to swing

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t hit the ball out with a metal, at least with a woody if i get all of it and it goes nowhere, I can blame the bat and pretend like it would have if it were metal.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised you could break bats like that without bat breaking stuff.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Sir is a Low Blow, Points will be Deducted.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah, he meant little league pitchers. Valid question.

The stuff at a pro level that breaks bats is the filthy sinkers and cutters/etc that move from barrel to off-barrel before the hitter can adjust. in little league, the ball so rarely hits the barrel even on slow straight pitches down the middle that it would be the hitter breaking the bat, not the pitcher.

Plus, some overreactie parents would pull their kids out of baseball altogether at the first sight of a bat shard.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

bat shards scary

over developed 12 year old killing the 3rd base man with a shot off a metal bat not scary

mothers don’t know what to fear

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The bats get heavier every year!

and now they are all outlawing the crazy ones

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forget 12 year old, I was an assistant coach one year and while I was hitting infield I accidentally stung a line drive at the gomer kid playing third.

Mom was not happy with me.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

GScott, have you ever tried throwing breaking balls with a tennis ball? I feel like I’m completely wasting my time since the ball is so light that I can’t get any bite on it.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't that going to throw out your elbow?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes – I would be scared to – elbow and shoulder

but you can make them break, same Bernoulli principle in effect

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

more drag on a tennis ball = more break, but drive to the hospital for your surgery appointment = biggest drag.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would never, ever, ever do so.

However, if you but a cut in it and fill it with small coins you’ll have a nice weighted ball for your arm strength. Just don’t cut it open with the can opener on your pocket kniffe like I did and you won’t get a gnarly scar on your wrist.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Blowing out my elbow really isn’t a concern; I feel like I have a plus RF arm and do plenty of long toss before pitching.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

the harder you throw something too light, the more damage it’ll do, not less.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those whiffle ball leagues

the second leading cause of Tommy John surgeries

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA!

Karma
  
On the hands or the head of the bat?

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

got jammed., split from just above the hands through the barrel.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ash. Not getting a maple until I’m comfortable I won’t break it on the first swing.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

see, but wood reminds you about shit you learned forever ago but metal allows you to ignore

expensive lesson, but now you will clear those hips and get those hands through!

I used a Brett Brothers wood bad for BP – thing is indestructible (jinx!)

and regular wood for regulation games, didn’t see much of a difference between Ash and Maple, so back to Ash C243

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bat isn’t off the shelf, I have a connection that gets me minor league bats for 40 bucks each, I don’t ask how they appear in this guys possession

but that is my bat, Louisville Slugger C243 33

I experimented with all kinds of maples, swung a lot of 34s, but now I feel like I got a home

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

We bought the Big Sticks because they were 22 bucks.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s cheap, really cheap

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

in both quality and cost. Can we talk about this connection of yours? How about a couple C243 34s?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll see if I can get more than one size – I share orders of 6 bats with another guy

I don’t know when they are coming, I get a note saying “Hey, you need bats?” and I always do

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet. let me know.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used wooden bats

before aluminum bats were little-league approved, I believe.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the Duke roamed the outfield in those days?

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was still a USC football player.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he now spends his time guarding the Larry Flint porn Empire.

by Grimjack on May 16, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

like a pitcher

nobody wants to get jammed, nobody likes it at all. Bats break, hands sting, outs are made….

You don’t hear me going on and on about watching for a change to the arm slot for breaking balls, or the pronated wrist, or even how the pitcher fidgits with the ball in his glove when setting up the splitter, or how he pitches backwards when runners aren’t on base, but with runners on you can count on the fastball in a fastball count

by Hollywood Joe on May 16, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry man

brain works at a different baseball frequency.

Had a nice battle with one of the better players in the league last night. We started 1-1 count for scrimmage’s sake, went FB foul, CB foul, FB high, CB dirt, FB foul, CB foul, FB foul, CB foul, FB foul, FB K looking. Caught him guessing every other pitch because of the FB-Off pattern, just wish I had done it a couple pitches sooner.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This cracked me up just now

LOL (from Eric Enders)

RT @nrmnbates Honing their knife skills before the gunfight. RT @dylanohernandez “Early bunting practice for the #Dodgers. ”http://twitpic.com/4ym567" target="_blank">http://twitpic.com/4ym567"

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

“Your opponent cannot push the button, if you disable his hand!”

“Medic!”

by EMDarrow on May 16, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

brilliant

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers lineup

Weeks 2B
Gomez CF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 3B
Hart RF
Betancourt SS
Lucroy C
Marcum P

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Allen Webster, RHP: Webster was drafted in the 18th round from a North Carolina high school by the Dodgers in ‘08. He was mostly a shortstop at the time, got a small $20,000 bonus, wasn’t highly-recruited, and was pretty much an unknown to draft experts not in the Dodgers front office, but he’s emerged as a fine prospect and currently has a 2.40 ERA with a sharp 45/17 K/BB in the California League. The Dodgers really did their homework with this one; he’d be a second-round candidate now, if not higher.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/5/16/2173552/alternate-universe-2011-baseball-draft-part-four-m-through-z

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on May 16, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

i love how in that picture of "evil" parallel universe allen webster

he still looks entirely unevil.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

My second time in DS this season

My second Jon Garland start. The first one was bad; hopefully this will be better.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 16, 2011 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

prolly not

LOL

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 16, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t that suck? I mean, Garland’s not terrible or anything, but he’s probably the least interesing pitcher to go see at DS

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

SSS caveats, etc, but I’d rather see him than Lilly at this point.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

totally agree. I’d rather see an Ely start than Ted Lillyputian.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have seen Lilly pitch twice

and he is pitched well both times (they were at night).

by bhsportsguy on May 16, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no faith in anyone with a fastball that doesn’t register on CHP radar guns.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

so you are expecting our offense to break out tonight then?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we facing Ted Lilly?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, that’s fair. i was bummed tongiht because I thought it was Kuroda. Kuroda and (obviously) CK and Bills are the guys I really hope to see.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto

Or at least Lilly in daytime.

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

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