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Runs Have Been A Rarity For Dodgers

Heading into tonight's game with the Brewers, here is where the Dodgers rank among the 16 National League teams in offense:

  • 15th in runs per game (3.54)
  • 10th in OBP (.317)
  • 13th in slugging percentage (.361)
  • 12th in OPS (.678)
  • 10th in adjusted OPS (91; with 100 being average)
  • Sixth in batting average (.254, woo hoo!)
  • 12th in doubles (58)
  • Tied for 14th in home runs (27)
  • 12th in walks (116)

Lineups

Here are the lineups tonight that will face Jon Garland and Shaun Marcum. Marcum is fifth in the NL in strikeout-to-walk ratio at 4.17. Garland is pitching on three days rest, as he threw two innings (and drove in a run!) on Thursday in Pittsburgh before the rains came.

Brewers Dodgers
2B Weeks SS Carroll
CF Gomez 2B Miles
LF Braun RF Ethier
1B Fielder CF Kemp
3B McGehee 3B Uribe
RF Hart 1B Loney
SS Betancourt LF Gibbons
C Lucroy C Barajas
P Marcum P Garland

*****

I answered some questions from Nicole Haase over at the fine Brewers' blog Brew Crew Ball.

*****

Game Time: 7:10 p.m.

TV: Prime Ticket

MLB Gameday

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HR of the season for Garland.
Sands isn’t playing! :)

by Xeifrank on May 16, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

to g scott: Shawn Marcum
Mind you he does all all this with a fastball that averages 86 MPH. He gets away with this because he throws five pitches with control, using his fastball / change up about 30% of the time each.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

25 TBLA points for Nolander

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you’re agreeing that it’s easier to be a MLB pitcher with a high school fastball than with a MLB one?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suggested nothing, Marcum is successful, facts are facts.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one said that at any point at all ever

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s angry at work so okay to make arguments over points that were never mentioned.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t put too much stock in exceptions. They in fact infuriate me because they are brought up as evidence and instead of “see, it’s possible” I get the “no, you’re wrong”. I’m not directing this at you by any means, I’m angry at work, but this happens over and over again.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exceptions exist, they can’t be swept under the rug because they are not the norm.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

But does stuff like “sure this guy has sucked for five years, but so did Jose Bautista” really add anything. At some point you have to apply the Jamie Moyer rule or expect people to say “in general” six times a post.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve found that people who think Moyer is some lone exception are wrong. He just did it longer then most. Casey Blake is not a lone exception he is one of a group. Moyer is one of a group. Marcum is one of a group. These are not Jose Bautista once in a generation exceptions. Pitchers with control can be successful, long time minor leaguers when given a chance can be successful. It happens, and it happens more then once.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many soft tossing lefties didn’t become consistently good until they were 33?

Sure exceptions happen but it makes for much uglier writing when you have to add “usually” or “generally” to every single sentence.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should have just replied in the original thread

now this is all out of context and spinning out of control

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes you can. You ignore the outliers in any good sample size.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly has done it for years

If you can locate your pitches and have good offspeed stuff it seems like you can be successful in the league.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

he used to average 88+. Now he’s barely above 86. As a lefty, you can get away with 88. No one can get away with 86. Jamie Moyer has done it a long time, but I’m not sure I consider an ERA between 4 and 5 for the last ten years to be “successful”. He should have been out of baseball since 2001 but his price point and connections/loyalties etc kept him in.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was really good from 2000-2003, looked finished in 2004, then was an above average SP three of the next four years.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

re NFL lockout and court ruling today, here's another take

from Ted Bartlett, who is a very sharp football (not just Broncos) analyst.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

So over/under on 1.5 runs tonight.

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll take the over

with Garland batting ninth and Bills pinch hitting late

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have tickets in the dugout club for tomorrow's game

I’ve never sat there before…has anyone here? if so what exactly should i expect to get for free?

by Brandon Lennox on May 16, 2011 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully the tickets were free

I suspect you’ll be charged for anything to eat and drink just like the hoi polloi

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep they were free

I can’t believe they go for $625 per seat on dodgers.com

by Brandon Lennox on May 16, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon, did I mention your are my favorite person ever?

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

haah

are either you or Phil or anyone else covering the game tomorrow? if so maybe i’ll see you on the field

by Brandon Lennox on May 16, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we will get rained out, it would fit in perfectly with Frank’s bad luck this year. Raining out a good crowd on bobblehead night.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

mid May rainout in LA is nuts

at the very least could be some delays tomorrow or just yucky weather.

by Xeifrank on May 16, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that would be the same system that arrived here today

(it also rained yesterday morning before clearing) But really gross today, rainy and cold. Hope it’s not as bad tomorrow down there or the game could indeed be PPD.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Food. It is awesome. You will have a great time.

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

we’ll be there too. We’ll be the ones throwing peanuts at you from Res 9.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 16, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to believe there are teams in the NL who suck at offense more then we do. I pity the fans.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

It is tripping me out

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering that the Dodgers are 15th out of 16...

There are not “teams” that suck at offense more than we do.

There is “team” that sucks at offense more than we do.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re better than Jose Bautista, which is more than five other teams can claim.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

OPS+ is probably the better way to look at it, and there are 6 shittier

by Michael White on May 16, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Name names man!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank You, you save me a paragraph.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh. I was just checking in to be completely snarky. I’m not so much angry at work so much as I am totally swamped by it. But it’s five o’clock and my brain is dead.

Also, question for the tech people: I got a “stop 0×000021a fatal system error” blue screen of death. Am I totally fucked, or only mostly fucked?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/317189

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 16, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, but I don’t understand any of that. I read something on a different site about using Dr. Watson, whatever that is, to see what the problem is, which is probably that winlogon.exe is corrupted, and then replace it somehow, but I don’t understand that, either.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

System Restore is your friend.

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you mean “I should choose ‘repair my computer,’” I do that, and it doesn’t work.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

When does it happen?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Startup. The Dell screen comes up, and the little status bar that says “© Microsoft corporation” comes up, and then I get that black screen where I can choose safe mode or whatever, and then I pick repair my computer, and then I get a totally black screen, and then I get the blue screen of death.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s probably ways out of this if you know what your doing, but easiest thing to do here is to reformat.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that is when they say, dammit i was going to backup just never got around to it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

One year ago, Bride signed us up for Carbonite backup services. It is pricy — $50/year — but you never have to worry about it. It checks your stuff once a day and backs everything up automatically.

If my computer is really dead, then it is already worth the investment.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

aces for you.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing is for sure: before I reformat, I am going to get an old laptop and pull down my stuff onto that — juuuuust to be sure.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm very curious how your Carbonite experience goes

as far as restoring your files. Is it only data files, or the entire drive it backs up? If you didn’t have to re-install all your programs, that would be nice.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, but it sure looks like I’m going to find out, and when I do, I’ll let you know.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have heard in the past that Carbonite in particular isn’t the best option. Not sure why though.

by Freddy V on May 16, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what I’m doing.

I will look for my system disks. I saved everything, so if they sent me system disks, I will have them.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those porno sites, I’m telling ya…

by silverwidow on May 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it keeps happening you’re fucked. If it’s a one time thing, eh, computers sometimes screw up.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It keeps happening.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

tech support!!!!

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotten those screens regularly on a few occasions

First time, my comp had developed a dead short and fried a section of the motherboard. Second and third times, my main HD was going dead, so I tolerated it long enough to offload anything that hadn’t already been backed up.

by EMDarrow on May 16, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Set it to not restart on BSOD and copy more than that, usually it has a “SQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL” or something like that too

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you have a real Windows disc, otherwise good luck with that “system repair disc” and tech support. If you want download damn small linux (50) as a Live CD and try to run it to see if the hardware is ok, it’s just the OS that is borked.

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another reason to miss Casey Blake right no

relatively at least. He’s 3/10 vs Marcum with double and HR, fwiw.
(Navarro has actually done fairly well, 5/18 with a HR.)
Uribe is 2/11. Kemp is 0/3. Ethier has an awesome OPS (faced him once and walked)!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

+w

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The original Oceans Eleven is on TCM

When I was a kid I thought that was the greatest movie ever made.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I mistakenly bought that once from Columbia House DVD club, decided to keep it, and couldn’t last through the whole thing. Snooze fest!

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You liked Bridesmaids, I can no longer count on your barometer. It was stupid funny for about 10 minutes, the rest was a snooze fest. Yes, Molly was the best thing in it, but that is like saying Jansen is currently our best relief pitcher.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did you think of The Third Man?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

We postponed it until another night, got 1/3 way through it and Verdell fell asleep.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

As with most good movies

you need to pay attention, so it’s good you put it off for another day. I’m curious to see how you like it. It has a very “foreign” feel to it, which turns some off, but it’s one of my all time favorites.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saw a great documentary on the producer Jerry Weintraub’ of the recent Series. Man what a life. Basically has two wifes but this guy lived.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad the HD version isn’t on Directv

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs FIP coefficient

I know some have been asking about it. This is from Dave Appelman who runs the site.

We use (13*HR+3*(BB+HBP)-2*K)/IP, and then you just subtract the MLB average from the MLB FIP average. It’s 2.94 (rounded) for 2011.

by Xeifrank on May 16, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks.

How can you use the MLB FIP average to find the coefficient if you need the coefficient to find the MLB FIP average?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I second this question.

/Escher staircase

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I have to guess you calculate the FIP using 3.2 as the coefficient, then add what ever you get from subtracting the two to 3.2 to find this years coefficient.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a Q/A thread up at Fangraphs. Feel free to ask this.

by Xeifrank on May 16, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

In better news

@joe_block:
Mattingly said the discomfort when Furcal bats righty has gone away, so he is green-lighted to bat righty, as he did 2x on rehab yesterday

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

sweet

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks good for Friday, hopefully.

by Alex41592 on May 16, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone see

that David Wright has a stress fracture in his back? Mets can’t catch a break.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

They seem to be catching plenty of breaks:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

they said

he’s going to rest for 10 days before anything else. They don’t think he needs surgery. they put him on the DL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chipper might join him.
Zimmerman
Blake
Wright
Chipper

McGehee might be the best 3rd baseman standing:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chipper not healthy? I am shocked.

by Salty on May 16, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe!

Or is Uribe injured? I haven’t been paying attention…

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's healthy

as far as we know, and he walked twice yesterday!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I still don’t like Uribe.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

We liked him for two weeks of a six week season. That is two weeks more then we have liked Loney.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel I must point out that I didn’t even like him during those two weeks.

Sure, my dislike was only out of spite, but it did remain dislike.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

We wondered if Uribe could match his SF days, I wondered if he’d regress back to his White Sox days, nobody wondered if he’d be worse then those days.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it fair to say that Uribe

is also, like many other hitters like him I’m sure, much more effective when he doesn’t have absolute crap batting after him? When he’s not the third best “slugger” on the team?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably. But when you swing at anything leaving the pitcher’s hand, you are not going to get good results. He’s not Vladdy.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was on the Giants last year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also there’s no such thing as protection.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not on this team!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he's basically just as streaky as he's always been?

I kind of expected better from him at this point but expected he’d have great weeks and bad weeks and still think that will be the case all season.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

(but more good weeks and less bad weeks would be nice, Ooribe)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Eventually he’ll hit three home runs in a week and we’ll love him for a while.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but if we only get two good weeks out of every six weeks, that is not good.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wait until we get to the World Series. He’ll kick as then.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 2005, Thomas Oliphant published “Praying for Gil Hodges.” Sometime in 2010-11, TBLA published “Condemning James Loney to hell. Quickly.”

by btimmer on May 16, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zing!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

HITNG?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

While everyone is focusing on Bautista, Mr. Granderson just hit his 14th home run.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

off of David Price

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Piece on bunting and the Dodgers that wasn't as useless as I feared

even if not really that earth shattering.
http://www.dailynews.com/dodgers/ci_18070967

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Read that, meant to give it a shout out, niece piece from our local paper. Tony Jackson would never have written that piece while a beat writer for the Daily News.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’d be writing that Bills can’t pitch when Juan Castro isn’t in the lineup

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 16, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson can't pitch with a lede.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good piece

Good because it had both the average total runs scored statistic as well as the average of one run scoring statistic. However, it still doesn’t take into account the fact that not all sacrifice bunts are successful, which would skew the advantage toward the “no bunt” decision.

by The Dude Abides on May 16, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

KC pitcher did not make it out of the 1st inning but if the relief pitcher does not allow the inherited runs to score he will not allow a run.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Was he hurt?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only by his lack of control, he only walked three and they yanked him. Maybe he was hurt, seemed like a quick hook otherwise.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, yesterday at the ballgame, the guy next to me was screaming for Lilly to be pulled with nobody out, three runs in, a man on, and nobody out in the second inning. I thought that guy was crazy — sure, you could pull Lilly, but I guarantee you wouldn’t like who they brought in.

If KC’s hook really was that quick today, it looks like they let that guy manage.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned Yost not a quick hook guy – there must be more to the story.

by Salty on May 16, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might be tired of giving the ball to a piece of shit pitcher when he has arms like Aaron Crow and Jeffries waiting in the wings who can bring it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be an interesting conversation on the mound

“I’m sick of this shit. Three walks? I’m bringing in Crow!”

“Skip, Crow is still in AAA.”

“Shit!”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except he’s not.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap! Perfectly good snark done in by the facts!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 16, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

LaRussa: I played Pujols at third to get Allen Craig in the lineup.

Olney:

On Pujols at 3B,La Russa’s decision:he was trying to get Craig’s bat in lineup without having to position him at 2B. Pujols was OK with it

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 16, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

They are combined 0 – 5

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Ely was successful last May, some used Shawn Marcum as a comp for a pitcher who could be successful with a 86MPH fastball. That is about the only thing they have in common. Marcum throws five pitches at least 10% of the time, so he keeps the hitter off balance. He evidently can throw them for strikes as his walk rate has been outstanding the last two years. It was already good in 2007/2008 but he has gotten even better since then with a 2.17 in 2011 and a 1.98 in 2010. He also strikes out hitters at a decent clip with a K/9 rate ranging from 6.91 – 9.06 since he became established in 2006. He missed all of 2009 due to surgery and did came back a better pitcher due to his elite control.

He might be the softest throwing right hander who has had more then a few months success that I know of. Then again I had no idea he threw this soft until I did the preview, I thought he was around 88-89. I wonder who else is out there?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Bloody awesome

Rays down 5 – 1, score five in the 6th, take 6 – 5 lead

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Just want to say watching Elbert strike out the side last night is one of the highlights of this season. It was WAGNERISH in it’s beauty.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

If you see a goofy looking person behind home plate wearing a blue ski hat with flaps, that will be me. Night all

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 16, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Clayton Mortensen

in the top of the second inning against the Giants allowed two baserunners, and threw five total pitches in the inning.

single
GIDP
HBP
force out (2 pitches)

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Free Jerry Sands!

Imprison Jay Gibbons and Aaron Miles.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think Aaron Miles has had a great year so far but I also don’t think he has had a horrible year that would make him get imprisoned

by Dodgermanramon on May 16, 2011 6:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

true..

Relatively speaking, Loney and Uribe are much much worse

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just watched a movie about the “Yips” Fear Strikes Out

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Nate Eovaldi

6 IP, 2 hits, 1 BB, 8 K’s, 0 Runs

he’s out of the game, but I think we already have our minor league player of the day

by Brandon Lennox on May 16, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck yeah

Eovaldi is the least talked about prospect here and he’s pulling in an above average performance in AA at 21 (turned 21 a couple of months ago).

Webster is awesome, but Eovaldi is putting up a better performance than him in AA.

by Julio Nievas on May 16, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

ETA 2012 or 2013?

Man, with Rubby, Lee, Webster, Eovaldi and several other guys the system sure isn’t lacking for pitching. Let’s just beef up the position players shall we, Logan?

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by underdog on May 16, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'll be trading them for position players

I mean, come on. We’re DEEP in SP. If we’re still in contention, I’ll be shocked if we don’t trade any of them.

by Julio Nievas on May 16, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What were the Brewers thinking trading JJ Hardy for Carlos Gomez?

Was being left with Betancourt at SS really worth it?
And they have to play Gomez in CF.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

The Hardy trade was before 2010, which left Milwaukee with Alcides Escobar at SS.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he sucks really bad too

They replaced a good enough SS, with a bad one.
Then traded a bad one for another bad one.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Years from now we will all talk about that famed Escobar for Betancourt trade, with some pitcher as a throw-in.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

if Escobar was the centerpiece in giving up Grienke..

Dayton Moore needs fired before that trade takes place.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who for who? Are these Major League players? I know JJ hardy was once a decent player, but his time has passed.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, they are among the two worst SS in the major leagues.

Betancourt – 581 OPS
Escobar – 521 OPS

The Brewers committed high way robbery in getting Grienke.
They exchanged two horrible SSs, and then threw in Jeffress/Odrizzi.

If thats the price for a Grienke, then there’s no way Kuroda/Billingsley will fetch much.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Grace at his douchiest
RT @awfulannouncing: Check this out. Here’s Mark Grace mocking Hong-Chih Kuo’s anxiety disorder. http://bit.ly/jEjXtH (h/t @sporer)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

My first thought was it could’ve been worse.

by Alex41592 on May 16, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

my second thought was “why did I click this link?”

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had that thought too so I thought you should share in my pain.

You’re welcome!

My third thought was, thinking back to Saturday and watching some of that painful game and wondering why we get stuck with Grace as Fox analyst = salt in wounds.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is our pennance for having a bad team.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we've already done plenty of penance over past year

for whatever bad mojo Shpunt and McCourt wrought upon us.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

We must have been really bad in a past life.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 16, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

My fourth thought

was back to Sunday, when I passed Daron Sutton in the press box and I was again taken aback by just how freaking tall he is. On TV he seems like a regular if not smallish dude.

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Russell Martin ended the game in St. Pete with…you guessed it, a ground out to 3B

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I remember when i was there for a walk off against the Padres with the bases loaded “Don’t Swinngg!!!!!” I was picturing that ground out, but he took the walk and won the game.

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahaha

i was there too!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees have lost 6 in a row for the first time since 2007.

by Alex41592 on May 16, 2011 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Girardi, Cashmen on the hot seat, ESPN 24/7 coverage being launched, interviews from their toilets tomorrow

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

2007

what a horrible year for the Yankees. 92 wins and they finished second

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard they wanted to tear down the stadium…………………….well it would have given the construction guys less work to do…

by DodgersKings323 on May 16, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guerra on Dodgers Live right now.

by Alex41592 on May 16, 2011 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Gotta love the 4am wake-up call

by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, the Rockies lineup while still better than ours in general, isn't exactly Murderer's Row today.

Lincecum’s thrown a fairly high # of pitches considering his pitching a shutout so far vs said lineup.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Random sickening stat

There have been 3 rapes at Cal Poly in the last week, after none for the first 8 and half months

by SeanMillerSavior on May 16, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m about to get LAT’d but say hello to the next GM of the Dodgers, Brian Cashman

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

did they actually fire him?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No but I believe this is the last year of his contract and if they miss the playoffs I could see him leaving

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees starting pitching is terrible..

Considering how much money they’ve spent on their overall team.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burnett and CC

have been ok right? I know after that it’s underwhelming.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 16, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burnett blew it today, CC not doing what’s expected of him

by Mike Dennis on May 16, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

A team with a 200+million team shouldnt have to have Bartolo Colon and Freddy Garcia in the rotation.

by Joey Joe on May 16, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

no thanks

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 16, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man

the computers in Pretty in Pink sure are advanced

by Josie Becker on May 16, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

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