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Huffington Report:Giant Preview

Manager: Bruce Bochy (22 - 19) (1296 - 1319) 

Current: Scored 142 runs, given up 149  Pythag - 19 - 22

Outlook: After catching the Rockies, the Giants have lost two in a row to the first place Rockies, so they now sit 1/2 game back.. They are kind of the same team from last year, great pitching, no hitting.  9 - 6 in May, the team is waiting for Pablo Sandoval to come back and kick start the offense into gear. For the time being the Belt experience is over, so no more Huff gifts in right field. Torres is back, Cody Ross is back, bit of a logjam in the outfield as time is being handed out to everyone.  Dude named Ryan Vogelsong has stepped in for the injured Zito and has given the rotation a shot in the arm with four starts, his last two being superlative efforts. The man last pitched in the major leagues in 2006 and here he is pitching for the World Champs. 

Disabled List: Barry Zito, Pablo Sandoval

Old Friends: Mota, Cody Ross

Positions:

1st Base: Aubrey Huff is back and is now heating up with a .803 OPS in May. 

2nd Base: Freddie Sanchez being Freddie, nothing interesting going on here.

Shortstop: Miguel Tejada - worst full time hitter in baseball not named James Loney? OPS+ of 40, his full OPS of .512 is less then the slug% of Sandoval .530. 

3rd Base: Mike Fontenot and Mark DeRosa filling in while Panda heals. Surprisingly it is DeRosa who has been terrible while Fontenot is flashing some power (.426 slug%). 

Catcher:  ROY Buster Posey is not having a good year but he might be heating up with nine singles in his last six games. 

Normally I break down the outfield by position but everyone is playing somewhere so I'll hit all of them.

Cody Ross - Came off the DL on April 20th, has had a terrible year so far (.660 OPS), some nights he starts in RF, some in LF. 

Pat Burrell - Until yesterday Pat the Bat had only four hits in May but he collected two last night. He hit five home runs in April but none since April 18th. 

Aaron Rowand - got to play a lot when Torres was on the DL and has an .589 OPS since April 12th. Yet he's still getting some burn even with Torres back. Go figure. Then again we are playing Loney, Sands, and Uribe so who am I to mock a lineup that has Rowand in it.

Nate Schierholtz - Best hitting outfielder on the Giants right now who is not named Torres? Numbers say yes, with his .833 OPS. So of course he sat last night.  Normally however he's been playing RF on an almost everyday basis. 

Andres Torres - is out to prove last year was no fluke and so far he's doing the job. In fact, he's making last year look like he underperformed as he has a .900 plus OPS so far this year. Only 58 plate appearances but still he's rocking.

Starting Pitching:

 Dodger/Giant Matchups
Game# Matchup Fave Win% Total Runs
1 Matt Cain versus Clayton LAN

2 Madison Bumgarner  versus Chad LAN


Matt Cain Versus Dodgers

                                                                                            
                   PA  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
Juan Castro         3   3  2  0  0  0   1  0  0 .667 .667 .667 1.333  0  0   0   0         0
Andre Ethier       50  44 22  1  1  0   3  4  5 .500 .520 .568 1.088  0  2   1   0         0
James Loney        43  39 14  5  1  0  10  4  2 .359 .419 .538  .957  0  0   1   0         1
Jay Gibbons         6   6  1  0  0  1   3  0  2 .167 .167 .667  .833  0  0   0   0         0
Jamey Carroll      19  18  6  0  1  0   2  1  3 .333 .368 .444  .813  0  0   0   0         0
Matt Kemp          36  35  9  3  1  0   1  1  8 .257 .278 .400  .678  0  0   0   0         1
Tony Gwynn         16  16  3  0  0  0   0  0  3 .188 .188 .188  .375  0  0   0   0         0
Rod Barajas         9   9  0  0  0  0   0  0  2 .000 .000 .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Clayton Kershaw     5   5  0  0  0  0   0  0  1 .000 .000 .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Aaron Miles         3   3  0  0  0  0   0  0  0 .000 .000 .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Total             207 193 58  9  4  1  20 11 36 .301 .335 .404  .739  1  2   2   0         2

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Generated 5/17/2011.

Madison Bumgarner Versus Dodgers

                                                                  
                PA AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS
Rod Barajas      2  1  1  0  0  1   1  1  0 1.000 1.000 4.000 5.000
Matt Kemp        5  3  3  0  0  0   1  2  0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000
Jamey Carroll    6  6  3  0  0  0   0  0  1  .500  .500  .500 1.000
Juan Uribe       3  3  1  0  0  0   0  0  1  .333  .333  .333  .667
James Loney      6  5  1  0  0  0   1  1  1  .200  .333  .200  .533
Andre Ethier     6  6  1  0  0  0   1  0  1  .167  .167  .167  .333
Aaron Miles      1  1  0  0  0  0   0  0  0  .000  .000  .000  .000
Tony Gwynn       1  0  0  0  0  0   0  0                          0
Total           32 27 11  0  0  1   4  4  4  .407  .484  .519 1.002

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Generated 5/17/2011.

Setup: Mota, Romo, Runzler, Affeldt, Ramirez, Lopez - three lefties in Affeldt, Lopez, and Runzler

Closer: The bearded one, Brian Wilson 12 saves 

Matchup Notes: Our two best pitchers against the World Champs is what you hope for in key series like this. Dodgers sweep

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

due for his arm to fall off?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vogelsong is... surprising

Wasn’t he a Pirate cast-off? How is he doing it, with smoke and mirrors or is there some improvement there? He’s been pitching well.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Stop the presses!

Juan Castro is at the top of a good list!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

By any chance...

Did you just sign up to play in the Beach Cities Baseball League?

by ishXdavid on May 18, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup. G.Scott is in the league too.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Scott!

What a small world. Were you in my practice group on Mother’s Day? I’m Filipino shortstop that wouldn’t stop with the chatter.

by ishXdavid on May 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only practice I’ve been to was last Sunday. I don’t recall seeing any gregarious Filipinos.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

They often look like Hawaiian/Portuguese ;)

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

So gibbons tonight

and sands tomorrow

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully LSU slags his arms and ruins his professional career.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes I have

He’s going to be a top pick in two years. His numbers are already better than some projected first rounders this year.

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now I want a sandwich for lunch

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just remembered I have no mayo for my sandwitch...

franks red hot will have to suffice

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I put that (bleep) on everything

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I remembered

Gibbons having a HR against Cain

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

25 TBLA Points

Name three SF Giant catchers who later caught for the Dodgers.

One is a HOF
One is second in plate appearances as a Giant catcher
One is uber famous in Dodger lore

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Gary Carter

Brian Johnson

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

One right – Cross HOF off the list

the other two should be easy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carter, Haller and some other guy

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two down

You of all people should know the 3rd

1968 was the important year, anything of note happen for the Dodgers that year?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dietz played for the Dodgers?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I have no memory of him on the Dodgers.

But that isn’t unusual

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Johnson is really not the answer for #3? That seemed obvious to me.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not who I’m looking for.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Withrow line

6IP 5H 2ER 2BB 5K
98 pitches (61 for strikes)
also had 2 errors

by SeanMillerSavior on May 18, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Also, 1 HR

But those numbers are decent. Withrow has only walked batters more than 4 times ONCE this season… An improvement.

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

So lets see

probably won’t see Jansen or Gurrier tonight as they have pitched in back to back games, thought Jansen only really faced two betters. Pretty good chance we see Elbert or Javy tonight?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

More like Kershaw shaking hands with Barajas

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should never have underestimated Kid K

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or Russell Mitchell:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody wants to shake Navarro’s hand

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 18, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course not. Since he is the one who gave deuce aids.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its so wrong

that Navarro is making 2x the money that Kershaw is making.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on May 18, 2011 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw should get a move on then

and sign an extension

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Next year

Kershaw will bank 5 million and Navarro will be a NRI at best.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, let’s wait until both careers are over to compare bank books. :)

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would think short of 20+ wins and a Cy Young

Kershaw might make just below 4M unless he does a multi-year deal going into some FA years.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s going to eclipse $4 million.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

But when will he sign the extension to his extension?

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

MW,
  the only commercial that they play around these parts for Majestic is the Josh Hamilton one.
I’m assuming the guy is the same in the Loney commercial…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6rTY4hcxwA

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s probably the same guy. If not, same basic idea. Heavy, unathletic guy flailing at BP pitches.

by Michael White on May 18, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I disagree with Josh….cause I’d fuckin rake in the cage.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought surely they used the same dude.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

his name

isn’t Shirley :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

They have been playing this one a lot too. Loney taking BP, no other dude though.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im not falling for the banana in the tail pipe again and looking at one of your links…..

I’ll just assume its the one that ends with Vin saying “It’s time for Dodger baseball.”

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beverly Hills Cop was a long time ago

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im glad someone got it

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Raise your hand if you had the Axel F Theme on 45. Keep it raised if you could play it on your Casio keyboard.

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had it on tape.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Played several seasons of softball with the banana in the tail pipe cop. Nice guy, even if he does speak too white for Axel’s taste.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

they played that one a lot because they where pimping the give away day

I thought this was the commercial ya’ll where hating on till I went to the game saturday

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Furcal is ready if you ask me

 My question is this: Mitchell a shoo-in to get sent down or will they surprise us with Sands?

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Mitchell can catch, apparently. Maybe Castro?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its gonna be mitchell

Sands is their lefty “masher”

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

our 3rd catcher

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Guy wrote a big report on steroids…:)

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Gone with the Wind

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

russ mitchell

the guy who never plays

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even though I sort of like Gibbons and can recognize him, literally every time that someone mentions Mitchell, I think they’re talking about Gibbons. I share you’re confusion, Josie, although perhaps not for the same reasons.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on May 18, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Russ Mitchell is easy to spot, he’s got a mop head with curls coming out under his hat, probably the only Dodger who has that look. Plus he’s country goofy looking.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchell is toast.

The earliest Sands gets optioned is when Blake comes back IMO.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

At least toast has a purpose.

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Toast tastes good

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

and is a wonderful conduit for seedless boysenberry jam

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Enough already with the Knott’s!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

She better Knott mention that again, amirite?

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize for enjoying quality jam. I will from now on only talk about Smuckers

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I only like grape jelly

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

well we don’t even know if Arkansas has berry farms

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

They do….

Plenty of farms here.

I used to drive a tractor on a Watermelon farm.

fun work

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to drive a tractor, but I might get gonorrhea

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the tractor story?

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But I did, my boyfriend said I got gonorrhea from riding a tractor in my bathing suit

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I drove tractors on a pea farm, long time ago

Had no clue how to drive a manual, disabled three combines by the time I was done.

In two days.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on May 18, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

They get easier to drive every model. They are simple now.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, this was back in the pre-silicon era. Jimmy Carter was still president.

And the following summer, I had a job where they actually taught me to drive a stick. Soon I was driving dump trucks and stuff, so I don’t think I tractor would phase me too much now. Might be kind of fun compared to sitting in an office all day. (At least for a week or two, I know how it can get old very quickly.)

by TopDeckTrueBlue on May 18, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rank 'em

Jelly
Jam
Preserves
Marmalades

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

whats the difference between jelly and jam?

[punchline redacted]

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

jelly is jello-esque in texture, jam is more of a fruit paste. preserves are just straight up fruit, little syrup

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

marmalade is just a waste of wonderful oranges

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I hate marmalade. Have never figured out why one would want to eat orange peels.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on May 18, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

1) Jelly
T-last) all the others

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of that Lady Marmalade song, so that’s clearly fourth.

I was never a member of the Lisa Lisa cult so jam is out

So I’ll say:

1) Preserves
2) Jelly

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Preserves

and it isn’t close

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Preserves

and it’s not close

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck my ISP

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

pete’s burger was pretty good BTW.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

a bit pricey, but they’ve got a nice bar too

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marty means this …..

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Preserves
.
.
.
Jam
Marmalade
.
.
Jelly

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Though I’d put marmalade equal to jam.

by berkowit28 on May 18, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not enough people like seeds, or pulp.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The seed is strong with this one.

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

pulp is a godsend and a proof of fresh squeezeness. Jams with seeds are just jams with tiny annoying rocks

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer “Simply Orange” with no pulp.

I fear pulp

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

well we don’t even know if there are orange groves in Arkansas

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

No orange groves here

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right again! You’re two for two!

by TopDeckTrueBlue on May 18, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I join you

in pulp love. Berry seeds are sufficiently small that I don’t care if they are in my jam. But I demand there be none of that in a peach jam.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pulp? Fiction.

Strain that juice but good.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

When Blake comes back (assuming Sands goes)

Our optimal lineup:

SS Furcal
2B Carroll
RF Ethier
CF Kemp
LF Blake
3B Uribe
1B Loney
C Barajas

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll believe Blake starting in LF when I see it. I think they would start Carroll in LF (against LHP) before Blake.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know

Donny was again talking about it last night.

BTW – Casey looked ready to play to me, screw the rehab

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like that they are at least considering out of the box options.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

to that point. That exact question was asked – would you used Jamey in LF and that is when he went to the Blake in LF line.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will no longer be surprised, since D2X addressed it directly.

Thanks for that.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stick him out there a few times a week

play him at first against lefties to rest his weary legs, give him his day off once a week.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate the new-school trend of

Minor league rehab assignments being almost universal. If youre ready put on the goddamn major league uniform and get in the batters box.

by lchristmas on May 18, 2011 11:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm surprised Furcal is rehabbing for so long

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hasn’t played baseball for over a month. Understandable that he would need a few games and PA to get game ready.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

*shrug*

he has 3 games under his belt in AAA and has hit well in all of them.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s 4 games now. I wouldn’t be surprised if Furcal plays against the Giants.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Navarro’s pinch hitting days will soon be history. Luckily we have Juan Castro

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was my idea!

there is no way anyone on the internet could have come up with that without me saying it first. I demand money.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a autocorrect that

Wont allow “optimal” and “Loney” on the same page, but sadly I agree that this is the likely lineup. But Uribe 2b Casey 3b Gamer LF.

Would rather see sands get a little more rope, stay in LF, blake-gamer-raffy-uribe around the horn with loney reassigned as roving minor league shallow-fly-ball-hitting-and-taking-fastballs-down-the-middle coach.

by lchristmas on May 18, 2011 11:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

was thinking the same

by oshea2002 on May 18, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

against lefties

SS Furcal
2B Carroll
RF Ethier
CF Kemp
1b Blake
3B Uribe
lf Sands(until Thames comes back)
C Barajas

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reasons for having a third catcher

*warming up two pitchers at once
*hold umbrella while Phillie fans throw peanuts
*go out for pizza while team is on road

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

hold umbrella while Phillie non-fans throw peanuts

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

*getting ejected after punching Carlos Ruiz in the face, because fuck Carlos Ruiz

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 18, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck

I got stuck driving the visitor from China to a meeting in Industry at 2. I am gonna drive fast and scare the shit out of him.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Dude he is from china

have you seen how they drive over there?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are so right

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

trust me

there is no kind of driving that could scare a China native

by ishXdavid on May 18, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the countries I've been to

Craziest to safest drivers….

1. Filipines
2. Mexico
3. France
4. Portugal
5. Taiwan
6. Germany (mostly freeway speed)
7. USA-Other Euro Countries-China
8. Canada

They don’t drive that crazy in China. They actually drive pretty safe. The crazy part is being a pedestrian or cyclist because their rules of the road are different. The traffic in China is what I call “organized chaos”. In places like the Filipines it is just chaos. Never seen anything like the traffic in metro Manila. Chinese probably get a bad rap for driving because the ones that come over here don’t know how to drive and are then given a drivers license with little driving experience. Just my opinion. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never been to Italy, eh?

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

or Boston

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Northern Italy only, but yeah it is probably the same as France. :)

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

We invented anarchy!

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Naples is the craziest place I have driven

Sicily can be nuts too

Mexico is cake

India is insane, but so much traffic you never get above 10 MPH – also no anger

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jamaica

So much crossing into the lane of oncoming traffic to get ahead of someone. oy

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

my favorite game in mexico city was when you make a left turn, and three cars line up with you, and it is a game of chicken to see who is gonna fit going down that one way road.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never found anyone driving crazy in France but I never went to the South of France.

Are Canadians the safest people in the world? They also have guns up the wazoo but don’t make a habit of shooting people.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

South of France is nuts. Stop lights are only suggestions. Arm out your window and you are an amputee.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The #1 show in Canada is titled Canada’s Worst Driver

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

What’s his name?

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

 Lance Morin is currently Canada’s worst driver

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No chance he gets scared…..unless you pick a less than stellar neighborhood to travel through.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have already planned on that.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Atta kid.

Add to his experience

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

nothing will scare him/her

but he will be very grateful if you take him to CostCo.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman
belief around baseball is mccourt runs out of money by june. If MLB has to make player payments, he’s a goner #goodriddance

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Another Heyman “duh” prediction today:

Doubt the world will end with the subway series in progress. Just don’t see it

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Waiting until after the road trip.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

is there a time table for casey blake?

Furcal’s coming back within a week right?

by npurcell on May 18, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blake is expected to start his rehab during the road trip, while Furcal is expected to join the Dodgers during the trip.

I have heard Monday for Furcal, but I will be shocked if he isn’t playing in Chicago this weekend.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

too late!

we got 4 yesterday for 2 cars combined.

by npurcell on May 18, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you just see Fast Five or something?

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

when are we trading for prince fielder?

by npurcell on May 18, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Turns out Gillaspie left yesterday’s AAA game early not because he was on his way to the Giants, but because he sprained his ankle.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Fuckum

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers Auctioned off?

Do I hear a Loney?
Do I hear a Kemp?
Sold to the lady in the pink dress!

Mike Ozanian of Forbes is reporting that it’s looking more and more likely that the L.A. Dodgers will be auctioned to the highest bidder, in order to meet its financial obligations

Link

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

that's

what happened with the Rangers right?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB auctions always happen with a wink. Highest bidder is a term foreign to Bud

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

apparently not

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m her mother! Her sister! Her mother! Her sister!

by Josie Becker on May 18, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the Rangers went to the gentelman in the brown leather boots.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

That has not happened because MLB (Selig and owners) has final approval, they did reach agreements in the Rangers and Red Sox cases when the sale did not go to highest bidder.

I still find it hard to believe they would do this and not have the owner subject to MLB approval.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Los Angeles Trumpsters

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

reading the article

it seems they are just talking about after MLB seizes the team, they would then sell it to someone else

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is unlike the Rangers

right now, they don’t know how much of team is leveraged and which entities own what parts of the Dodgers. It’s pretty clear that the team, ballpark, other interests like Camelback, are probably all divided up in various McCourt entities and whatever obligations are tied to them needs to be sorted out and worked out.

This is why Rob McMillian believes and to some extent, I do too, that the team will probably need to go into bankruptcy unless you have a buyer who has the necessary capital to pay off all debts while still paying market price for the team.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh what a tangled web

he wove. He being Frank McCourt.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can just imagine the fun that will ensue

“McCourt Bankrupts Dodgers”… Poor Josh Rawitch.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

May 31, is when the bills come-a-due

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if Frank can’t handle it, then he’s gone? I read that if that happens, Dodger players will become free agents in 10 days, but I doubt that happens…

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no

don’t go down this FA road. Won’t happen, would never happen.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

if Frank can’t pay them, MLB steps in immediately IMO

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

how do you know if you qualify as a regular?

If your production at work just dropped 25%, you might be a regular

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

For other Bay Area Dodger fans, Dylan H will be on KNBR

1050 AM with Damon Bruce around 2:45.
Hope he’s not too depressing (my bet is it’s all McCourt and Dodgers bad offense but guess you can’t blame him) and that he doesn’t spend the whole time talking about Hank Schulman’s diet.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Expect some Stow talk.

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rawlings is going to start giving out minor league Gold Gloves this season, for full season leagues, per Baseball America.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Where can Dee Gordon go to view one?

by kinbote on May 18, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

on his mantle

it’s called incentive

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much

even a miracle near perfect season gets them 12

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 18, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you guys talking about two different sports?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

see below

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, question answered below ;-)

Yea it’s a tad early for accurate college hoops predictions. That’s a space filler.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

long beach is not good this year

go anteaters!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arkansas getting ass raped by Cincinnati in the first round would be fun

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

for you fans of the international market

NPB is going to review the posting system.

looks like one of the suggestions is to award the negotiating rights to the top three bidders.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Not having a 5 Guys or Shake Shack burger

I can’t really comment on this but for those who have, here’s something Darren Rovel retweeted from JA Adande for erious Eats.
  
The best analysis I’ve ever seen of the Burger War: Shake Shack vs In-N-Out vs Five Guys by @seriouseats http://nym.ag/jkJ4lt

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Its about taste not popularity or size

in and out is good, but the way its hyped it can never live up to peoples expectations

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to say Shake Shack is a bit better

that said, it’s more expensive, and the lines at Shake Shack are insane whereas you cant’ really eat during normal eating hours (ie – you sort of need to go b/t 2 and 4.

by oshea2002 on May 18, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

used to take my dog to Shake Shack once a week last summer for those poochinis. Still trying to lose all the weight I gained from their burgers and shakes.

ironically there’s an In N Out knock off called Fresh and Fast right by the main Shake Shack in Manhattan. Not bad either.

by oshea2002 on May 18, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

tried to go to shake shack when I was in nyc

never found the time to wait in those HUUUUUGE lines. they even have one at citi field and I stood in that line for about 10 minutes before realized what I was doing was stupid.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 18, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lines aren't as bad these days because there are more of them

Except for the line at the original one which is ridiculous. Not sure why even bother with that one.

Shake shack is probably the best burger but only by a hair. Frankly they all taste very, very similar, except the size of the patties are what give away the difference.

In N Out has best regular fries, although Five Guys cajun fries are really good if you like that flavor.

Shake Shack’s fries are the worst of the three, but they have delicious shakes, concretes, and they sell good beers which I personally love, because a good beer and a good burger on a hot day is one of my favorite things.

by BFDC on May 18, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

what are “concretes”?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically a better version of a Dairy Queen Blizzard. They have some really interesting combinations too.

by BFDC on May 18, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 Guys wins over all.

Remember those summers when you would go to your uncle’s house, the grill ready to go, the adults drinking cans of Buds which your dad would secretly let you sip form when your mom wasn’t looking? Handcrafted meat patties thrown on, cooked just right with a nice serving of lettuce, tomato, onion, ketchup, and mustard? The shaded patio on that summer day with that cool ocean breeze? That is a 5 Guys burger.

by Dr. Geek on May 18, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

so a burger

i could easily make myself?

by mintxcore on May 18, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

wah wah

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone have an ESPN insider account?

I’m curious as to what this article says about the Dodgers 1B situation.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

They take all 4 major credit cards, im sure of it!

:)

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Los Angeles Dodgers

ESPN Insider writer Matt Meyers recently noted the Dodgers’ need to expel James Loney from the lineup. Trouble is, the Dodgers are ostensibly a two-man lineup, and Loney is just one of far too many players struggling mightily behind leading men Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier. L.A. has experimented with a first-base platoon, slotting in power-hitting prospect Jerry Sands versus a few lefties.

Sands has struggled in his first few big league games, but his minor league track record (career .974 OPS) suggests upside. And Loney, who has just two extra-base hits this year, has been helpless. Other than Sands, the Dodgers’ next hope is to scour the free-agent market in the winter, but the only way they’ll be bidding for Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder is if MLB can extricate the Dodgers from the McCourt McBacle and find a deep-pocketed owner

by oshea2002 on May 18, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to pay money to get good shit like
McBacle

Sheesh.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt

Loney was not been sat for Sands, he was sat for Thames

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

People have to pay for this garbage?

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put Sands on first or hope that a new owner signs Pujols or Fielder

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you

all.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just be mindful

If TBLA ever became a subscription based site, they would not appreciate having their product pasted up for free.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry

i was figuring more on something like Julio said. Just a summary. I will clarify next time. Apologies all.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

If TBLA ever became a subscription site, I’d weep.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that quote an excerpt or the whole thing?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it is an excerpt or he writes very very very little so I’m okay with it. That is coming from someone who will post a paragraph from a pay site article without much compunction.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, an excerpt is fine, even a paragraph, but the line between okay and too much is ill-defined.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ill-Defined

was my Napster name

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You were licensed to ill.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

brilliant

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you

And I’m sensitive to that too, but excerpting and linking to subscription material is allowed by this blog (per Eric’s policies as I understand them.) The excerpt may have been a bit long, but those (like Julio) giving a basic summary seem to be well in-line of the policies.

by Michael White on May 18, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say

of the sites I mentioned, the Insider rumor stuff is just usually a collection of other things or analysis like what was printed above, the Keith Law stuff is probably a little more nuanced, thus you could say that he likes this player but beyond that, it would be hard to summarize without quotes.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I respectfully pay for

ESPN Insider (actually comes with ESPN the Magazine subscription)
Baseball America.com
Baseball Prospectus.com
BaseballReference Play Index services

If you don’t want to, that’s fine but I do disagree with the idea of asking for people to paste up stuff that others do pay for, regardless of whether or not you believe it is worth the money.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do people pay for other peoples opinions? Do they really have great inside info that cant be found anywhere else? I think its crazy ESPN asks people to pay for their opinions… and their inside stuff aint even that inside.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve paid for ESPN insider in the past. I thought it was worth the money.

by Michael White on May 18, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN the magazine makes it a easier decision.

Welcome to Thameswood / You'll be the first to go, unless you think

by NotJoeTorre on May 18, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

They aren’t just opinions. These opinions, articles, work come from experts or people with experience in their field, and people would want to pay them to hear what they have to say.

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like ESPN insider because I enjoy reading about a number of different sports. If I was only into baseball, I’d probably go with one of the others BH subscribes to above. But ESPN does put out some pretty good material about the 3 sports I follow closely.

by Michael White on May 18, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Sometimes I feel like I want to unsubscribe, then something floats up and I get my pleasure reading the article.

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Olney column

is good on a daily basis and the NBA stuff is really good. ESPN insider really became a place where they put all their sports columnists and Scout info in so overall its a pretty good value, but the Rumors section (where I am thinking) that Loney bit came from is not one of the best things they do.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s passé.

I used to sub all sorts of stuff as a teenager, but there’s simply too much information available for free now.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh I see. Yeah I guess everyone is different. I love the job you guys do here, I love DT, I love MSTI. I appreciate the work you guys put in and the info you guys provide. These sites are fun to read, and fun to chat with other fellow fans. But I wouldnt pay for any of it, because at the end of the day, all that really matters to me is if my team won, or lost. That I can see for free on TV.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Free being

relative since you have to pay for it.

It is interesting about that mindset, no one ever acknowledges the way they get something as being something they have to pay for.

There were two ways to get media content that did not cost you anything except for the device and the energy to power it, broadcast television and over the air radio.

At some point in the next few years, the Dodgers and Lakers will only be seen on Cable (outside some games on their national broadcast contracts) and heard on local radio.

So why is it with written content, there is such hesitation about having to pay people to produce it, it remains a puzzle and this isn’t the forum to solve it but I thought the free comment was curious.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

For me, it's simple

I’m not paying for text.

But I will pay to watch my favorite team play.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

would you pay

for a TBLA podcast?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

it would get quite silly

I’m sure I’d pie Eric

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

faces made for podcasts and voices made for silent films

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

[x]

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

touchy Dave

just calling balls and strikes

you guys are the princes of print

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just

running with the silent films ref.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to be the foreign correspondant for the TBLA podcast

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

just so long as I am not the show fluffer

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah true I guess it isnt totally free…. I have to pay for cable to see the Dodgers, Lakers etc. But I guess because my life is so consumed with cable TV as it is, I would still have cable even if there wasnt any sports at all. So since its not PPV, I think of it as free…. But you are right, it isnt free. Have to pay for cable. Have to pay for internet service to be on the internet.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its not written content

its just content on the internet. At some point investors will get sick of funding ventures that make no money and people will be forced to pay for things.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats a good question, would you guys pay for TBLA, or DT? for example

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would pay for TBLA….no chance on DT

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No! But I’d gladly buy Eric a beer or beverage of his choice.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

DodgerThoughts

I used to say TBLA was like a 24-hour news channel while DT was like 60 Minutes, but TBLA has really stepped it up content-wise with stellar writing from Eric, Phil, Michael, Kensai, David, et al. Jon’s writing is still nonpareil, especially his pieces that weave baseball into the thread of every day life, but TBLA has become a place that satisfies every need a Dodger fan could have.

Would I pay to read either? I guess that would depend if the content would change with the format. I find it difficult to start paying for things I used to get for free.

It’s like why I don’t have a BangBros account when there’s Spankwire and XVideos.

by ishXdavid on May 18, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If TBLA ever became a subscription site

the 10 members who could read our stuff would guard the special information as though they were guarding the ark of the covenant.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

hell yeah!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope…

I’d share with everyone and get a GFY I’m sure.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nine members then:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harper

No call-up in 2011.

NEW YORK — Don’t hold your breath waiting for Bryce Harper to reach the big leagues this season. Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo says that’s not a possibility.

Appearing this afternoon on ESPN 980 AM’s “The Sports Fix” with Kevin Sheehan and Thom Loverro, Rizzo was asked if he’s already ruled out a Harper debut in Washington this year.

“Yes I have,” Rizzo said. “It’s not gonna happen, because he’s not ready for that to happen.”

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

not surprising

but could he make AAA by the end of the season?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

He won’t get higher than AA.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woah, your two comments here appeared at the same time.

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is he not doing well?

I seem to remember a story about Harper being upset about being left off the MLB roster or something after ST.

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 18, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's doing historically great

but they just don’t think he’s ready for the Majors because he’s destroying A ball

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

gotcha

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 18, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upset? No

he just said some stuff about how its his goal to make the team by the end of the year and people freaked out cause apparently that makes him a douche.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

everything he says makes him a douche apparently

i really never got that impression of him.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger Thoughts

with a (naturally)thought provoking article detaling the Worst Starts to a Season for a Dodger since 1988

and the worst is not James Loney.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't want my first baseman

anywhere near that list. Catcher, SS, CF maybe even 2B I would expect.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the take-away here is that terrible seasons from positions that are considered defense-first is tolerable, if still disappointing. Loney has just a few extra base hits in almost 2 months worth of games, how long can that be tolerated?

by OB12 on May 18, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Until

A) A better option that is just as cost effective appears
B) He pulls out of it.
C) Next year
D) Other

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

All Star Break

He won’t get all year

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by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

benched?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what they will do

having a bench player who can only play 1st base seems like a waste of a spot. Could the DFA him and send him to the minors or would he be able to become a FA?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you DFA Loney and he goes unclaimed, he would have to be outrighted to the minors, but he has enough MLB experience to refuse the outright and become a FA.

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by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Dodgers want to send him to the minors, he needs to pass through waivers. He does have options and he does NOT have the service time to refuse being optioned (assuming he passes through waivers.)

Can’t find the link now, but that’s from Eric’s 40 man roster breakdown.

by Michael White on May 18, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would anyone really pick him up?

At the beginning of the year I say yes, but now? Well, maybe.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is out of options

too many years on the 40 man. But you may be right that he doesn’t have enough MLB service time (might be five years required) to refuse the outright.

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by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember Navarro being the only guy who could refuse the assignment.

So, having options but needing to pass through waivers is the same as being out of options, being DFA’d and then being outrighted to the minors.

by Michael White on May 18, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney has one option year remaining

He used options in 2006 amd 2007. But since it has been more than three years since his MLB debut Loney would have to pass through optional waivers before he could be sent to the minors.

Loney has no say in the matter (as of right now he has 4 years, 62 days of service time counting today; 110 days short of the 5 years needed for him to gain the right to refuse an assignment), but other MLB teams do.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you used up an option year if you spent an entire year on the 40-man? Or is that just semantics anyway because of the optional waivers?

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by David Young on May 18, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You use an option when you are on the 40-man, but not on the 25-man. Loney was added to the 40-man in November 2005, used options in 2006 and 2007, and has been on the active roster ever since.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

for those of us who don’t want to think.

Can Loney be sent down with having to go through waivers?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Optional waivers. In other words, the Dodgers can pull him back if claimed.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they have the resolve to bench him outright, they will just trade him for a couple of C-level prospects.

by BFDC on May 18, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

assuming he is worth any prospects

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

There will be teams who think they can do something with him. Kotchman for example was traded numerous times for big league talent and he never even flashed the potential that Loney has shown in the past.

by BFDC on May 18, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kotchman and Loney have been in the league for about the same amount of time

wiht similiar production, and Kotch had to take a minor league deal from the rays. If a team wants loney they will either take him on waivers or not at all imho.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I’ll just agree to disagree then. I think we can get something for him if the front office decides they are done with him.

If they wait, and just non-tender him at the end of the season, I guess that is a different story.

by BFDC on May 18, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

James seems to be very much on the Kotchman path, without the Dodgers enjoying trading him at the deadline for a real 1st baseman.

He will certainly be non – tendered this winter, and no one is going to be confident enough to give him a job as the starting 1st baseman, so he may very will have to take a minor league deal next winter.

Unless of course he turns this all around as someone predicted and lead the team to the post season.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

All we need is James to not completely suck for a couple weeks and a team to have an injury at 1B in June/July.

by BFDC on May 18, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

to dream, the impossible dream….

often means to live in a hastily constructed lie of our own best interest without a real consideration of the other guy

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that happens we aren't trading him

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other teams who would take on James salary that are in contention would also have to have no other options.
SF – Nope
Rockies – Nope
Phillies – Maybe
Marlins – Nope
Braves – Nope, plenty of back up options like Hinske who is already better
Cardinals – Nope
Brewers – Nope, they have Gamel
Reds – Nope they have Alonso
Yankees – Maybe
Red Sox – doubtful
Rays – not a chance in hell
Indians – nope
Tigers – maybe
KC – tons of 1st baseman
Angels – nope
A’s – nope
Rangers – nope

JMO

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by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pirates it is!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean the Dodger cast-off resting place?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on May 18, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not even a resting place, just a way station. TBLA LaRoche and Pee Wee Young are already elsewhere.

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by David Young on May 18, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harold Reynolds said on MLB Tonight that he thought playing at Dodger Stadium really hurts Jim Loney.

Said he could hit “20 or so bombs” if he played somewhere else.

Mitch Williams came back with “I guess Ethier and Kemp are 50-60 HR guys then?”

lol

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

what a great reply by Mitch

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its just a dumb comment

Last I checked, we play 81 a year outside of Chavez Ravine

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

love that

even dumb squirrels find a nut now and then

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Mitch Williams always do this to other analysts?

I swear someone posted another comment he made yesterday that was similiar

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just speaks what he feels to be true, I would say.

Harold and John Hart are always on the players side and all players are good its not their fault they suck.

That’s how I hear it anyway.

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

All those other parks with 250 foot fences

Jesus christ, the guy can’t hit a double

by lchristmas on May 18, 2011 3:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd like to add

I’ve hated Mitch Williams with a Phillyesque passion ever since he had the audacity to besmirch our Clayton Kershaw’s pitching mechanics a couple years ago in a radio preview of the NLCS.

by ishXdavid on May 18, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a clue how much Kotchman was making but it wasn’t nearly as much as Loney makes right now, was it? Salary alone will keep other teams from trading for him.

by VegasBlues on May 18, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kotchman and Loney were close to equal last year, ~$3M; Kotchman made more than Loney before that. Loney this year is at $4.8+M.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. If he doesn’t at least start hitting some doubles with regularity then they won’t be able to stick with him.

by OB12 on May 18, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really

can’t imagine that his true talent leve is a sub .600 OPS. I think Loney stays the whole season and at the very least plays 2/3 games at 1B because he is left handed and plays decent defense.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he makes it to the ASB at his current production, that is a whole year’s worth of ABs where he has been terrible. I think it would be a change of scenery deal where we get basically nothing back.

by OB12 on May 18, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

mike davis

what was the story of his decline? was he just old?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 18, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He got the two-out walk in front of Gibson's PH in 1988

All is forgiven.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

his first season as a dodger is so epically shitty and andruw jones-ish it just boggles my mind

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 18, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasn’t old but he sure was done, didn’t even get a dead cat bounce the following year. I was excited we signed him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

looked up his last year

played like 65 some games with a 95 ops+. not a particularly great signing.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 18, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rob Neyer's list of Five Losing Pitchers Who Shouldn't Be

includes Chad B
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/5/18/2177860/five-pitchers-fantasy-bargains

(from fantasy BB perspective but still good to see him get props. he’s just one of several dodger pitchers who would have far better records with any kind of offense at all.) Could add Lincecum to that list too.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 18, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

like Vin said

he owns the “Hard Luck Loss” award after that one-hit loss.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Donny doesn’t even let James hit with the big in BP anymore. He’s been relegated to the Miles/Carroll group. I expect it was embarrassing to watch Kemp and Andre punish the pavilion while he works on hitting looping line drives to LF.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I will say this

Simers wrote a pretty fair and good piece on Loney and it does seem that while Loney is optimistic (as he should be) he realizes that his future lies in his own production.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

well thats just sad

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

fail

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Average score in last six Dodgers games

Dodgers 1.83 – Opponent 1.67 (or 10/6, the fraction on the card in the brim of the Mad Hatter’s chapeau.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

hah

yay our pitching!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fractions!

Charlie Steiner will prolly use this tonight!

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

that feels like 1968

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by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just a flash back, sir

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You betting the under every game?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch

tweet

@MonkeyWithAHalo Super lame, top #Angels prospect Cam Bedrosian just had Tommy John surgery, now out for 12-15 months
Drafted with the pick right after Zach Lee.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I remembered that someone did

but I try not to boner gaze.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You made everyone very uncomfortable

Like not being able to talk about the elephant in the corner

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was the Oliphant in the corner.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that comment even justified?

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oliphantastic

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate had dead wood

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

called up who? did you post a pic, because I see nothing.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a Little League World Series pic of Sean Burroughs.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh

I thought that was a chick….

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pudgy little guy

Bet he liked his nachos

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

and suicides to drink…

I harp on suicides because I did too!

by keithc13 on May 18, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is cool, hope the kid can stick with the Diamondbacks.

FYI – with LaPorta looking to have played his way into being the everyday 1st baseman for the Indians, and Hafner pronking his way to success once again at DH, the rehabbing Nick Johnson could be available. Wouldn’t hurt any to find out what kind of injury he’d get after we stuff him at 1st base:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 18, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats a good idea!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil have and extra pair of tickets to Thur. game do you want them ? ( For free)

by Dodgermanramon on May 18, 2011 1:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks, no can do

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unlistenable radio

Petros and Money guest today is Plaschke.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t need Plaschke to make it unlistenable

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 18, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. Should’ve titled it “Doubly unlistenable radio”

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 18, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Radio for the deaf or dumb

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was pissed

Because I saw a headline of his article that the Lakers should hire Jeff Van Gundy, and I actually agreed with him. That made me feel dirty.

I love JVG. But I also don’t want him to coach because I really like him as an announcer. But I’d make an exception for the Lakers.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

JVG will always be hugging someone’s leg in my eye.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I root against announcers I like when they take other jobs. I wanted Steve Kerr to get fired in Phoenix (he’s back on TNT), I want Doug Collins to flame out in Philly, and I wanted Doc Rivers to crash and burn in both Orlando and Boston.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think about that

we could never say that about one MLB announcer, yet the NBA has plenty of ex-players who do not suck.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

too much time between plays for former players to say stupid things?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting you like the guy. My Laker fan buddies cant stand him, they think he is a Laker hater which would be funny if he becomes Lakers coach. I didnt mind him though.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I audibly oofed

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird that OKC/DAL is playing every other day while MIA/CHI gets big ass breaks between games.

by silverwidow on May 18, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

It didn't hurt that

Dallas and OKC are only 200 miles apart.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

NBA scheduling is stupid

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't see this very often

Gorman Erickson is fifth in the Cal League in OPS (1.019) but has yet to hit a home run in 137 plate appearances.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Follow up

The Rancho boys have three in the top 15 in OPS (Erickson, Delmonico, Gallagher) yet they have hit only six home runs combined in 404 plate appearances.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

More follow up

the OB% of our boys at Rancho is impressive as hell.
Six regulars with an OB% > .383

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

2011 MLB Draft

What position do you want the Dodgers to select for their first pick?

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

BPA!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

high school starting pitcher

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

high school relief pitcher

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

combine them

I have been told that a starting pitcher who could hit would be the most valuable player in the game

by Hollywood Joe on May 18, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you combine them, you get James Loney.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 18, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

this 1000 times over

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on May 18, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

weak hitting first baseman

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with BPA, but I’m hoping the BPA just so happens to be a 3B or C when we pick, and not another HS pitcher.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Logan should stick with what he is good at and this is identifying High School pitchers. He kind of sucks at picking hitters in the first five rounds.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Law says he heard the Dodgers are interested in 3 HS pitchers (one lefty, two righties) and a 3B HS prospect Javier Baez.

Baez is ranked as the second best short stop, but because of his limited range, scouts project him as a 3B. Dude has crazy bat speed.

by Julio Nievas on May 18, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers always seem to zig on draft day other then the obvious Kershaw pick. Don’t think anyone had us in on Martin, Withrow, Lee, Gould

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just the makeup issues alone

make me think Baez is a longshot – the lefty pitcher seems the most likely.

Drafting position players is probably the highest risk he could make, the projection from high school to MLB is so hard to predict, I can see why he picks pitchers, especially if you never pick in the Top 3 or so.

by bhsportsguy on May 18, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah he is great at finding pitchers with no control I agree…. im just kidding.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want Swihart, or that Baez or whatever his name is that Law has us taking in his mock.

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

An outfielder, 1B, or 3B. Power power power

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on May 18, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, someone with power would be great

by uschris0304 on May 18, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any chance loney would actually try to convert back to a pitcher?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 18, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

No, he understands he doesn’t get to face a lineup of Loney’s.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 18, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

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