No Offense Again Makes Dodgers Pay Towles
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:16 PM PDT
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PrintToday was a sad day. No, not because it's Oprah's last show, but rather because J.R. "National League Jeff Mathis" Towles, a catcher who came into Wednesday's series finale in an 0-for-32 slump, collected three hits, the final knock a two-out RBI single in the ninth inning to give the Astros a 2-1 win over the Dodgers.
It was a sad day because Michael Bourn hit the first pitch of the game by Ted Lilly over the fence for his 12th career home run. Lilly did settle down after that, allowing just one run in six innings before being removed for a pinch hitter in the seventh inning.
It was a sad day because the Dodgers managed just one run against Rule 5 pitcher Aneury Rodriguez, who naturally had the best start of his young career facing the Dodgers.
It was a sad day because Rafael Furcal went 0-for-4 and his 1-for-18 since returning from the DL.
It was a sad day because the Dodgers lost a series to the team with the worst record in the National League.
But cheer up, maybe new Dodgers minor league pitcher Ian Snell can help the Dodgers deal with the sadness.
The Dodgers are off tomorrow before opening a homestand against Florida on Friday.
WP - Mark Melancon (4-1): 1 IP, 2 strikeouts
LP - Matt Guerrier (2-3): 2/3 IP, 2 hits, 1 run
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fuck that guy
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Tweeted by Jon Heyman
guilty pleasure: listening to hawk harrelson.
I have now officially lost all respect for that man.
Nothing is ever easy.
To answer drulenarendes
The last time the Dodgers won a series was in Pittsburgh from May 9-11.
They have won one of their last 10 series
we would have had 3 of 4 if it weren't for mother nature being a big fat bitch
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
She does know how to bring it.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on May 25, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang
Pythag had us 20 – 30 headed into the game. We suck
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TBLA Daily Home Run Contest Result
Kemp in 3rd was picked by SeanMillerSavior, since only one was hit, he will win the 25 points.
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I am surprised
Today is “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towel_Day" target="new">Towel Day" — I’d have made a “Don’t Panic! Towel Towles beats Dodgers” headline.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on May 25, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to use “Dodgers Burned In Towles House, Cooked,” or something similar, but decided against it.
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If only the Russian novelists would have switched their opuses, you could have have
Woeful Offense Is a Crime; Punishment: Towles Toys with Dodgers
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on May 25, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wonder if Rubby Reads Russian Rubbish.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on May 25, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Which reminds me of one of my favorite puns. Imagine Buffy walks in on Giles, who is looking at his television.
Wotcha, Watcher. Whatcha watchin’?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on May 25, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
In Russia, Tolstoy disses you!
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on May 25, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
When the Dodgers asked Schieffer if they could sign Ian Snell
do you think he laughed at them, or just kind of figured this is why we’re in this situation.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Rough.
But Kemp was awesome. So hooray!
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
also…BBQ?
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
omgwtfbbq?
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...
no but seriously I want to do something on Sunday
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
haha
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
2 more people got killed in wilmington yesterday for no apparent reason other than eating at a taco truck. so it would be super exciting and daring for the tour now.
Still on Frank's team!
2 more people got killed in wilmington
white noise, unfortunately.
I still want to go to Tacos Sin Aloa again.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
their families are also lining up to sue Frank because so many LAPD officers were off duty because they racked up too much OT working at DS.
Still on Frank's team!
between the LAPD working DS and working the Stow case, the gang bangers who used to frequent DS are running wild.
/philphact
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Didn't Ray Lewis
make a statement this week that without the NFL crime will skyrocket?
Still on Frank's team!
In the treasure trove that is Ray Lewis quotes, that one might have taken the cake.
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
And I'm a bad person for living near irvine
cities is huge and yet, no crime! It helps that their police force is the only overfunded police force ever.
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Jorge DLR. Tommy John and out for a very long time.
by Alex41592 on May 25, 2011 2:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
we shoulda signed him instead of lilly
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I read that as Rubby DLR and almost had a heart attack
by dodgerpreacher on May 25, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m watching Steve Lyons throw grounders to Jamey Carroll. Yes, I have just discovered PT.
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
Guerra
first time I’ve seen him pitch. Looks pretty good, especially with that hard, spike slider of his. If he can continue to locate that fb on the corners (it’s a bit straight), no reason he can’t continue to be successful.
TBLA Home Run Series Contest Winner - NoLander
just nudging out JoJo.
NoLander – Gibbons 1, Sands 1, Kemp 1
JoJo – Kemp 2, Sands 1, Furcal 1
but NoLander wins due to having Kemp for at least 1 while JoJo had Furcal who hit none.
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nice
JoJo should get negative points with how bad Furcal played in this series
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Meh...
Raffy is so bad :( Sigh…
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
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I believe you have never tried, which is going to suck for you when you find out a Andre Either jersey is in the TBLA Store, redeemable only with TBLA points.
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I pretty rubbish at baseball trivia to be honest, unless it’s about uniforms or logos
by Josie Becker on May 25, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Most of this has come from simply guessing home runs. Even an English Professor can do that
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Or reading my reviews, which might be harder to stomach
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well I guessed none for this time, like guessing $1 on the price is right
by Josie Becker on May 25, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
only 3-4 more heavy workload seasons to catch him
With Mariono it just might happen.
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first ever to have 1000 appearances with the same team.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
saw that earlier in a tweet. That’s awesome.
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
For 22 TBLA Points
Royal announcer and long time Royal starter Paul Spittorff died today, Paul pitched on the 1980 World Series Team that lost to the Phillies, who was the RF on that Royal team?
Hints:
1. Currently a manager
2. A number one pick (9th overall)
3. Was playing major league baseball at the age of 19, at the age of 20 would amass over 450 plate appearances and never do it again.
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Clint Hurdle
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Dang that was quick
22 points to Nolij
Which hint did it for you or did you already know?
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First manager I could think of that played for the Royals. The first round pick thing jogged a memory.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I was blown away by the fact he never played as many games as he played when he was 20
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The numbers for his career are quite interesting. At 20, 21 and 22, he had OPS+ of 108-96-120. Then he never got significant playing time again.
He was a phenom with a draft pedigree, produced at a young age and then he was done, just like that.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hurdlcl01.shtml
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Didn't eric make a crack about how crapy the first round the year he got drafted was?
something about someone who wasn’t really good being the only “standout” player?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Fun scheduling quirk
Marlins will play two games after the Dodgers land back in LA before starting a three game series Friday.
by Alex41592 on May 25, 2011 2:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
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Luckily for us
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Christian Friedrich was not the next Kershaw
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Nor was
Tyle Matzek
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Could be just a spot start, with Aaron Cook close to returning too, per Troy Renck
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This has to be false
joe_block
Rubby De La Rosa had never pitched in the U.S. with less than 4 days rest until yesterday, so #Dodgers were unlikely to use him back-to-back
Rubby was a closer for Great Lakes last year.
Yeah, I saw that tweet too. Had the same reaction.
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He threw 8 or 9 pitches
How could he not be available? Anyway the weak offense was the culprit.
Persistence is Omnipotent. You hear me Bills?
13 pitches I think, at max effort, still requires a day off if you’re not used to that recovery time.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Though the Fangraphs gamelogs say Block is right
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I really love that Fangraphs has those gamelogs for the minors.
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
he made 5 starts
9 relief
as I recall he was pitching multiple innings in relief so this could easily be true
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It is
6 saves were:
4 IP – twice
3 IP – thrice
2 IP – once
All spaced out
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
From the Snell link up top
he felt “too much negativity” from the fans, reporters, bloggers and the Pirates themselves.
Goddamn bloggers.
Unless your name is Chad
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Or lilly
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Nah, Lilly is gong to remain on my shit list. He did throw a nice cutter/slider thing to Bourn in his second at bat to strike him out.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
thank you for proving my point
7 innings 3 runs in his last start, 6 innings 1 run if he doesn’t get PH for has a real shot at going 8. :-p
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Oh well, if nothing else this gave us another good pun title from Eric. ;-)
Meh. I saw Matty’s bomb when I left and then apparently did not otherwise miss anything.
Lilly really settled down, too, after he was again prematurely buried by many fans. Pen pitched around jams but was otherwise good. Offense a big zilcho. Raffy has been awful since returning, but still holding out hope he’s just a slow returner again and will pick it up at home. Team desperately needs him. Blake will help, too.
Oh well, another crummy week for offense, another mostly good week for pitching, What else is new?
Or as my dad would say, in Yiddish accent, nu?
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so...
prediction for first Dodger 10 game winning streak, anyone?
nice
I am not gonna predict a 10 game winning season at any point but have a feeling there will be a 6 game streak in June. I really do see that coming.
Also: October, Apocalypse. Bank on it. /Camping
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hah, meant "streak" not season. hopefully not a Freudian slip.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
There will be a 4-day lossless streak in July
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on May 25, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Expecting a win in the makeup game with the Pirates. I like it!
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone catch the HUGE grin on RDLR’s face when the pinch hit for him? Great stuff. He was in the freaking zone up until that point.
No Heart
he should have been pissed he didn’t get the 9th.
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should have taken a swing, two times, at DM
by Eric Stephen on May 25, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Rubby article
Today, De La Rosa throws his fastball with velocity in the 94-102 mph range, with a comfort zone of 97-98. White calls him "Mi Nino," and Rubby responds back by calling him "Papi."
Rubby was 17, 5’10 128lbs when he signed and was throwing 91mph? GFY Rubby.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
so he did put on weight!
to 185. good lord
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
How the HELL did he get a 75 out of 80 for fastball? Was it the 100mph or the crazy sink that knocked off the 5 points?
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
interesting scouting grades
i particuarly like the “life” is 50.
I didn’t know “life” is a criteria lol.
I invoke the gambler’s fallacy. Every day I think we couldn’t possibly suck again because we already sucked so many times in a row.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on May 25, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers high point last year
Was 38-27.
They are 64 – 84 since.
Almost a year’s worth of bad baseball.
LOL CSUN Hoops
Postseason ban. I thought Braswell was soooooo respected by everyone. I guess his kids did not respect him enough to show up for classes and stay on track to graduate. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6584182
Still on Frank's team!
wow, that's sad...
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bowden grades
SCOUTING GRADES (20-80)
Fastball 75
Life 50
Changeup 65
Slider 50
Control 50
Delivery 60
Arm Action 60
sorry, for rubby.
so 2 plus pitches to go along with a mlb avg 3rd pitch with plus mechanics.
sounds like a top of of the rotation starter to me.
I'm trying to keep context on this one
Bowden being a former MLB executive and all.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
When I looked at our schedule at the start of the season, I honestly thought the past several series opponents would be easy, that Blue got a break from the Scheduling People, and that Blue would be in the lead (or very close to it).
boy was i wrong.
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
maybe
the Dodgers are like that character on Heroes that absorb the energies of their opponents. We suck because our opponents suck. Maybe… with the upcoming teams, we’ll do/be better.
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
we suck because our DL is getting paid more than a couple franchises.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Heroes!!!
Always love a good Heroes reference :)
I’m playing LA Noire and a character in the case I’m working is Greg Grundberg, I was excited to see and hear him, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
if they go something like 7-12...
They should seriously considering selling before the trade deadline.
Firesale list
Guerrier, Kuroda, Blake, Kuo, Broxton, Garland, Furcal, Carroll, Gwynn
They may all have value.
Kershaw/Kemp/Billingsley/Ethier keep.
Youngsters keep.
Uribe/Lilly/Miles probably arent tradeable or wouldnt bring anything in return.
Kuroda isn’t going anywhere. He has a full no-trade.
Guerrier isn’t going anywhere, he’s signed over the next two seasons.
Furcal isn’t going anywhere, he’s owed too much money and is broken.
Gwynn holds no value to a contender.
Blake’s buyout becomes $2mil if he’s traded, makes trading for him have negative value.
Broxton isn’t going anywhere unless he proves he’s effective and healthy.
Kuo isn’t going anywhere because he still has two years of team control before Free Agency and isn’t healthy to begin with.
The only two on your list I could maybe see, is Garland and Carroll. But, if you have any intentions of signing Carroll to a 1-2 year deal while you let Dee develop more, it probably goes out the window if you trade him.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
agree
He’s the best talent that is in the last year of his deal.
And his no trade is limited….he should be the first guy the Dodgers shop.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/los-angeles-dodgers.html
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
it was a fantastic deal. on the free agent market he could have made more than Lilly. Giving him a NTC is a great way to sign him to a 1 year deal and keep him happy in LA. Also gives you the chance to sign him again next year.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
i'd agree with the Kuroda deal if the Dodgers were championship level team..
But if you are a mediocre or rebuilding team, you dont sign vets to 1yr deal and not have options to trade them to get better.
Thats why I could almost understand not signing Berkman to 1yr since he was probably not the difference…though given how he’s hit and how loney has maybe he was.
that doesn't really make sense to me
signing Kuroda for 1 year, minimizes a lot of risk and also was extremely under market value. Dodgers got a great deal.
Whether they are contending or not, they still need to fill out a major league roster and try to compete.
trying to compete is boring
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
if we trade everyone for prospects, then develop those prospects and trade them for more prospects, in 12 years we’ll OWN ALL THE PROSPECTS. It’s foolproof!
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
The pirates nod their heads
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Sometimes you trade prospects for vets, sometimes you trade vets for prospects. Sometimes you even trade a guy in his prime. It all depends on context. However prospects are one of the most valuable commodities an organization can have, and yes the strategy is one that thinks long term and functions in an endless cycle, that does not however make it wrong.
uh
no. We signed him for 1 year, when he could have gotten multi on the FA market, and part of the agreement is the no trade. Otherwise he retires and goes back to Japan. How is that stupid.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’m backing away slowly, and with no sudden movement. All yours Nolie.
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theres nothing to say
but I’ll give it a shot
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They should have forfeited the season back before free agency started last winter?
That would have been fun for everybody.
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
how does not signing kuroda make us better again?
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his salary goes to someone else
That is either younger, or a vet that doesnt have a non-trade clause.
Like to Ted Lilly!
He doesn’t have a no-trade clause.
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
not everyone else lives in a world where a team that is likely
to win 84ish games and with some luck can win the division should punt because it gives them a boner
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sarcasm?
Kuroda would of gotten 3/40 on the open market, can’t be mad with the deal. I just am not a fan of a NTC.
Scott Elbert will save us.
hah my bad
its hard to tell with the maddness that gets spouted some times(some of it my own)
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
and I would like to try to resign him next year
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
no you cant, he has a no trade clause.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 25, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t believe his no-trade is limited
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Gwynn has no real value in the trade market
Likely the same with Carroll unless you want a c prospect. I see Blake sticking with us till free agency, and no way we trade Guerrier when he signed a 3 year deal with us. Kuroda’s going nowhere either.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Due to the fact it's been 7 years and I've never even heard the name before
I’d say yes in terms of baseball.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I used to think like this. But since I think the return will be absolute shit, I’d rather keep Etheir and keep putting out a somewhat competent product
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
really? I think the opposite
I think Ethier’s perceived value is a lot higher than his actual value.
I just look around at the truly elite players who got traded and none of the hauls seem like anything to write home about (Sabathia, Manny, Greinke, et al.) I don’t think Ethier has the type of value to haul the elite prospects so why bother.
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
last big haul was what, Tex?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You still ask around, but unless you think you can get a couple sleeper prospects, it’s really worth it to just wait and grab the 2 picks.
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Sure. I’m down to shop him. Just fast-forwarding in my head, I think if a deal got done I would be disappointed.
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
what did Greinke get traded for again?
manny and sabathia are different as they were only controlled for 2 more months or so.
The Royals announced Sunday that they acquired shortstop Alcides Escobar, outfielder Lorenzo Cain and right-handed pitching prospects Jake Odorizzi and Jeremy Jeffress from the Brewers in exchange for Greinke, shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt and cash considerations.
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Odorizzi is doing very well right now
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa454394&position=P
Had a nice year last year in LoA too. By the end of this season he should be a top 50 or even top 25 prospect. Jeffress is getting groomed to be a starting pitcher again and might regain some good value that way.
Cain is an above average outfielder with not a lot of power but still doing well with over a .400 SLG % last season with the Brewers for about 40 games and doing quite well in AAA for the Royals right now.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=9077&position=OF
Not quite the Tex haul, but definitely not no one in particular.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Even though he appears to blow at the moment, I still think Escobar will end up being a plus value SS.
All in All they did okay, but then Granick had more value then anyone because he was not a rental.
I would have given them:
Gordon – Escobar
Trayvon – Combined value of Jeffries and Cain
Webster – Odorizzi
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Yeah I think that's about right
It would have been sweet to have him, too bad that wouldn’t really have helped us all that much this because of the pathetic offense, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
he'd have helped
did you see the bomb he hit today?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I recall people being underwhelmed
and Greinki has more value then Etheir.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
and wasn’t Greinke signed to a decently team-friendly deal?
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
yes
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
something you can’t sell with Dre. “Who wants this righty-mashing left-fielder who is going into his last year of arbitration with a $10mil base salary?”
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Red Sox might do it....
but do they have anyone worth trading for? I would want someone who could help next year
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Unless I’m reading that wrong, Rizzo is in the Padres system.
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, I agree the distinction between true rentals and Ethier is significant. But that’s probably adjusted for the fact that Ethier isn’t on that same level as a player anyway.
by Michael White on May 25, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Greinke's haul wasn't too bad
Though it was for Odrozzi or whatever his name was, he is beasting it up in the minors right now. Shawn Marcum got Brett Lawrie, and I wouldn’t put Marcum’s value far ahead of Ethier’s. Of course I’m not sure they would have traded him if they knew he was going to do what he has so far this year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Ethiers overall value isnt that great...
But his value to the Dodgers is…since the offense is so terrible.
And conversely…Kuroda’s value is probably higher to other teams than the Dodgers…since we have pitchers we can insert in for him.
oh man, funny stuff from my facebook
Albert Alcaraz Jr: Kim kardashian engaged, mike brown coach of the lakers, can this day get any worse??? 2 hours ago via iPhone 4 people like this.
Leslie Carrasco: Lol 2 hours ago
Gary Scott: Dodgers signed Ian Snell about an hour ago
Albert Alcaraz Jr: Fuuuuuuccckkkk
No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.
Yes it can
From: NCAA
To: USC fans and Alumni
Fuck You!
http://usc.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1225393
did you mention to him
how I ran out of cranberries and almonds?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You could, you know. buy some more.
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
I have more
at home. But thats useless to me at work :-/
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Where is Table when you need him?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
we should trade kuroda for xpaul and lindblom
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I suggested we trade him to the Reds for some of their many excellent prospects. If not for the impossibility of Kuroda not wanting to play for the Dodgers, then it would seem to be a good idea. :P
How could you not know that I already knew that??? We went over it a million times yesterday!
I’m commenting on how Nolander’s witty little fake trade comment suggests that the problem with people suggesting the Dodgers trade Kuroda is that they want to trade him in an insensible way.
The issue is his no trade clause se you so keenly point out.
Would resigning Carroll be a good idea?
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
For one year I'd be fine with that
I love me some gamer, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
he represents the genre :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bench players are a good thing to have
if we don’t resign him we will end up bringing back castro and miles and a third party that sucks just as much.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I was just thinking I’m totally down for more Jamey, except he’s 37.
"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully
Castro is like.... 39
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
My only concern would be that someone thinks he can suddenly become a starter and offers him more than two million.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on May 25, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Which will almost certainly happen. If he keeps this up if he got 2/4 after 200 PA in 2009, he’s getting way more after 900ish way better PA from 2010-2011.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on May 25, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope James Harrison gets suspended next year for a cheap hit and rage quits football
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6586630
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I fear the rest of this year until Jul 31st will be conversations like this.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
HAHAHAHAHAA you think it will end after that?
waivers my good meercat, waivers.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Losing a series to the worst team in the league via 2 walkoffs
I think it’s time for this
I’ve already decided to panic, but I have to wait for permission from my son. After that, I will scream, jump up and down, propose ridiculous trades, idiotic lineups and start blaming everyone within screaming distance.
All done with a modicum of pomp and circumstance, with background music by Wagner, and described by my favorite sportsd reporter: T.J. Simers! (Or is that Simmers?)
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
35.1% heading into today. Almost a career best!
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on May 25, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
this brings a smile to my face
I want him to be good, preferably for the Dodgers
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
he heard me
i went from :) to :D
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
hell fucking yes!!!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
fuck yeah!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
if he keeps this up
i wonder if there’s a good chance he could promoted to AAA. But if he does, what would he do there? (it would be awesome)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there any point of sending him to triple A?
pitching is worse, the ballpark would inflate his stats, but then again.. when hes hitting .365 with 23 HR in 200 ABs, his value might would be decent.
Scott Elbert will save us.
triple A is 4A pitching with prospects mixed in.
IMO, most clubs have guys who are just floating around.
Scott Elbert will save us.
heh
i don’t think all AAA teams are like the Dodgers :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Once you adjust for park and league AAA is about 5% harder than AA.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on May 25, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. But this is from an article back in 2003.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on May 25, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The PCL is a massive hitters league.
Also Jeff Suppan is probably a better pitcher than 99% of the people in AA.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on May 25, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly
its better than AA because it includes old vets throwing crap up there that young hitters have to learn to adjust to if they want to make it in the majors.
I rather have my “top prospect” face other elite prospects than face the PCL pitching.
once again IMO
Scott Elbert will save us.
It's about facing all types of pitching
The AAAA pitchers in AAA offer a different type of competition compared to pitchers coming up in the lower minors.
Better question
Any pitching prospects in the PCL?
by Julio Nievas on May 25, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
yes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
i thought you meant if he went to ABQ
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Keith
if you’re here, you gonna watch this game? Or have you given up?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
when does Kyle Russell
have to be added to the 40 man?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on May 25, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
I started laughing from this
“But cheer up, maybe new Dodgers minor league pitcher Ian Snell can help the Dodgers deal with the sadness.”
Thanks, made my day.
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