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Stanton's Revenge: Florida Marlins Preview

Dodgers lost the 2010 Series 2 - 4, 1 -2, home and road

Manager:  Edwin Rodriguez

Last time we met, the Marlins were 13 -7; they are now 29 - 19, fresh off a sweep of the World Champion Giants, and breathing down necks of the Phillies. They took two of three from us in a highly contested series, with the Dodgers winning the final game in extra innings when Andre Either blasted a home run in the 10th inning off of the possible starter on Saturday, Brian Sanches. Marlins have one of the best road records in baseball 15 - 7; luckily we will miss Anibal Sanchez who shut down the Giants, earlier in the week.

Key Additions: John Buck, Omar Infante, Javier Vazquez, Edward Mujica

Key Subtractions: Dan Uggla, Ronny Paulino, Jorge Cantu, Cody Ross, Cameron Maybin

Key Injuries: Logan Morrison was missing last time, but he's back; however, we get lucky again because Josh Johnson is nursing a wounded wing and will miss our series. Hanley Ramirez was hit on the foot Wednesday, did not play Thursday, not sure of his outlook for this series.

1st Base:  Gaby Sanchez continues to sizzle, last time we looked he had a .862 OPS, that has now risen to .885. 

2nd Base: Perennial utility player Omar Infante parlayed a successful gig in Atlanta into a full time gig with Florida. Infante shocked many by being the centerpiece in the deal for Uggla. The late blooming Infante has yet to reach the same heights with the Marlins that he reached with the Braves in 2010.  Baseball is a strange game indeed, in 2010 Uggla and Infante were two of the best 2nd baseman in the league, now they are the worst offensive performers. 

Shortstop: Since Hanley Ramirez showed up to play SS for the Marlins in 2006 he's been one of the top offensive forces in the NL. Between 2007 -2009 Hanley  posted three straight years of an OPS between .940 - .960. Last year his OPS dropped 100 points to .853. In 2011 it is .610. For years we have asked Loney to hit like Hanley; too bad he decided to do it in 2011.  

3rd Base: Headed into spring the Marlins were hoping that local Chatsworth High star Matt Dominguez was going to show enough to become the starting 3rd baseman. It didn't work out, and so the team was left to scramble for a 3rd baseman as opening day neared. Four different Marlins have started at 3rd base, Greg Dobbs, Donnie Murphy, Emilio Bonifacio, and Wes Helms. Dobbs has always been able to hit right handed pitching and nothing has changed as he leads the group with a .836 OPS. When some think that Russell Mitchell will not have much of a major league career they only need to look at Wes Helms and realize they are probably wrong.

Catcher: John Buck signed the big three-year, 16 million dollar deal with the Marlins to hit home runs after clubbing 20 with the Jays in 2010. Problem with that is that was the first year in an eight-year career that Buck had ever hit as many as 20 home runs. It was certainly the first time he'd ever been north of a .250 average, and walking is not exactly his specialty so basically what you have is a young version of Rod Barajas. He's been a 400 plate appearance catcher for most of his career but now is expected to be one of the main cogs for the Marlins.  So far that is not working out; I doubt it ever does. 

Right Fielder: Mike Stanton missed a few weeks at that start of the season. He took a while to get going but is now making up for lost time. Might be the hottest hitter in the NL not wearing sunglasses or playing for the Reds. His competition is fierce in RF, but even so, fangraphs has him as the second best offensive right fielder in the NL. Eric posted Jay Bruce's hot May in the comments, but Stanton says don't forget about me:

   99 plate appearances, nine home runs, 19 runs batted in, 1.023 OPS

Center Fielder: The Marlins finally gave up on Cameron Maybin, leaving them with nothing to show for Miggy Cabrera except some relief pitchers they got in exchange for Maybin. To plug the hole in centerfield, they moved 2009 ROY Chris Couglan from LF to CF. Couglan was a big reason why the Marlins took two of three from us, getting five hits, two home runs, driving in five runs. Since then however he has only put up a .535 OPS so hopefully his bat will stay cold for another weekend.

Left Fielder: Logan Morrison just might be the best hitter in the NL no one has heard off. At this moment he has an OPS of  .996, an OPS+ of 168, and is basically a stud. 

Bench: Bonifacio, Posey Killer, and Brett Hayes fill out the bench.

Game One Stater: One time stud pitcher Javy Vazquez goes in game one. Until his last start in which he stymied the Rays, Javy had been one of the worst pitchers in baseball.

Game Two Starter: Brian Sanches appears to be the odds on favorite to start game two but that could change if he is needed in the bullpen Friday Night. He's been their long reliever, has the second lowest ERA (1.52) on the team, but the 2nd highest xFIP (4.41). 

Game Three Starter: Ricky Nolasco is one of the big three, just a tad behind the production of Josh Johnson and Anibal Sanchez. He's coming off a one-run gem against the Giants. 

Bullpen: Leo Nunez closes for the Marlins and usually gets the job done. He'll be setup by Clay Hensley, Ryan Webb, Edward Mujica, and Brian Sanchez. Michael Dunn and Randy Choate are the left handers Andre will be facing. This is a solid group, no one is spectacular but they get the job done.  On Wednesday night the bullpen was taxed; Nunez blew the save, hopefully he has another blown save in him.

MatchUps :

Florida is a good team with plenty of firepower. Even with Hanley misfiring they can throw Sanchez, Stanton, and Morrison at us, and they are an excellent road team. We are lucky they have to throw a bullpen man into the rotation on Saturday, and we get to face Javy Vazquez on Friday. We get Blake back but - just like Rafy - he will probably struggle with rust. No left handers for Sands to feast on so Andre will need to bring his A game.  I expect runs to be scored tonight, then nothing on Saturday / Sunday. Can our bullpen match up? Rubby damn right it can.

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@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the quirky ones, not everyone does

by Hollywood Joe on May 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

there’s like a cult of Zooey here, you’re in good company

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do not, but it might be because I can’t stand any of her characters and unable to differentiate the Parker from the Posey

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Josie

My wife talked to an old friend last night who spent a month in Camelback, Andre is her favorite player and she ended up talking to him a few times. Turns out he loves 1953, Ford Trucks, if you ever need a conversation starter with him, that will get you in the door.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

thanks for the tip : ) I think I’ve watched enough Top Gear to bluff my way through a classic car conversation

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have an old friend who runs a warehouse for a car collector in the Culver City area, might be able to get Andre a tour. How many TBLA fans are into antique cars? This person has quite the euro collection.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time believing any truck actually looked like that in the 50s

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why

1950’s was the heyday of the cruising world

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

it does

look a bit more tricked out than American Graffiti (OK, that was early 60s).

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I’ll have to send him our Ford Truck catalog!

Better yet, I’ll send it to Josie, and she can hand deliver it.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on May 27, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

If got a Ford 150 that could use some accessorizing. What is your catalog?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

concoursparts. com

You can print a PDF catalog there, or get the phone number (or email) from the website, and I’d would happily send you catalog..

by jim hitchcock (railway) on May 27, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did say there was a decent chance Infante would out WAR Uggla this year.

Damn I’m good?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Uggla’s bad start is surprising to me.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had heard that somewhere

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about Hanley’s?

I think he is the last great hitter who still sucks right now. Though the difference between a normal Pujols and what he’s done and a normal Hanley and what he’s done might be close.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carl Crawford is arguably a great hitter who still sucks right now.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

You must have missed the assault the last few games

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

46 games of mediocrity + 2 good games. OPS is still .645, up from .542 on Wednesday, or .520 on Monday. I’m not ready to call his suck over yet, but he is at least on his way.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

gotta start somewhere.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just would not use the word “now” when you collect eight hits in two games. Collectively sure.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carl Crawford is still pretty bad even if he’s raised his OPS 100 points in the last two days, but I can see him not being great.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

his too

They all surprise me really, I was just responding to reg.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

and green.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols still sucks
  1. overall pick in fantasy!?!? you kidding me albert!??!

by npurcell on May 27, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah me too. Seems like the last three or four years I’ve wanted to stay away from Dunn and Uggla because lumbering sluggers do not age gracefully. The year I think “yeah, they’ll probably keep it up at least a couple more years” is when they die on me.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
For years we have asked Loney to hit like Hanley; too bad he decided to do it in 2011.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Adam Dunn struck out four more times last night including once against a LH, now 0 – 33 against LHP. Most incredible stat of the 2011 season?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Not Jose Bautista related, so no, but it’s close.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most incredible suckitude stat?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t blame BABIP, 15 K’s in 39 plate appearances

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t blame the Dodgers either. We gave him three ABs vs. Ted Lilly.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

When none of your 18 balls in play have landed for hits, it’s reasonable to blame BABIP

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha, that be true

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

but I mean even with a 25% rate of his 18 balls he’d still still be blowing Dunn chunks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

true

but we wouldn’t be saying “Damn, 5 for 33? That sucks.” because we probably wouldn’t notice it.

I wish there was a way to search Baseball-Reference via split. I want to know the most PA without a hit against LHP in one season.

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we’d still be saying it because I think we’d still notice it. That is a pitchers numbers not a guy making 15 Million as a DH.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

We only noticed it because we just played them though, and the 0-for was mentioned. If Dunn wasn’t 0-for, I don’t think many people would have known about it.

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

For instance

We all know Carlos Peña has sucked this year, but nobody talks about his 2-for-36 against LHP

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

We will now!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pena and Dunn, Chicago Power Free Agents combined 2 – 69 against LHP

Seems like a story:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Career BABIP vs LHP — .288, OPS+ 90
Career BABIP vs. RHP — .298, OPS+ 109

Historically, the only things lefties seem to really have on him is a much higher K rate and a slightly suppressed HR rate.

Bad luck seems a fair thing to point to on that.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, apparently those numbers were tOPS+ instead. I’m not really familiar with that stat, but it apparently means it is adjusted relative his only total line, rather than the league. His career OPS against lefties is still .803, which is not bad at all given how much he mashes righties.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

the sOPS+ is relative to the league for that split

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

ouch

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is on pace to break Mark Reynold’s record this season? White Sox must be loving it.

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

On pace to get around 234.644 or 235Ks this season hah.

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel vindicated

in having no interest in the Dodgers signing him as a FA.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d. They don’t need a rule change as much as they need to enforce the rule. The same way that there are rules that limit quarterbacks and goalies for their protection, the rules should be enforced to limit catchers for their own protection.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

i had to laugh

because apparently Tim McCarver wants it to be the rule that if you go after the catchers head, you get ejected and fined and your run doesn’t count.

How is someone going from standing to sliding supposed to avoid hitting a guy who’s already low to the ground lower than the head? Not that I think they should clothesline the catcher, it just doesn’t seem possible to avoid the area completely in that situation.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tim McCarver

A sure sign of a bad idea coming.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like Mike Sciosia's reaction
“Scioscia told me he didn’t like it,” McCarver said. "He said the reason he didn’t like it was that (blocking the plate) was the last vestige of courage the game has.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not like in the 80s when men were men?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also why should he care, if his catcher dies it’s only Jeff Mathis.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because you can go after a dudes fully padded head in football. It’s totally reasonable.

Really like Gary and RMON said, at some point Selig needs to step in and say “from now on if a catcher blocks the base the guy is safe” and this should all end.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn't that the rule anyway?

unless he has the ball

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they just don’t enforce it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, obstruction

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gary is pleased you remembered what he wrote. :)

"The Dodgers are such a .500 team that if there was a way to split a three-game series, they'd find it." - Vin Scully

by Maddz on May 27, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember points that agree with whatever I’m trying to argue.

Now if you want me to remember guys who succeeded in the bigs despite striking out all the damn time in the minors, good luck.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

can you really remember

something you didn’t want to check in the first place? :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

yikes for your illness

you better now?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Back at work and on antibiotics. I am just crazy weak right now, and my wrists hurt from typing

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems both of the umpires on this board agree on this point.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

as an ex-umpire...

i also agree with these sentiments.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Posey SHOULD have had the ball though

he just dropped it before cousins even got there. You are saying he should field the ball and then he can set up to block the plate?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

that makes sense

basically until he gets the ball he as to act like a 3rd baseman setting up to tag a runner tagging up from 2nd and then when he gets the ball he can go beast mode

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Scoscia would have been made irrelevant.

Why do wordsmiths not like the word irrelevant? Is it because they are irrelevant in a society that chooses to communicate with 140 characters or less?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care about the current rule

I like plays at the plate, and I don’t mind if catchers want to set up and block the plate ahead of time. They just have to know there is a price.

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Easy to say if you are fully armed and waiting for Dee Gordon to come bouncing in off of you. Not so easy if it is Adam Dunn ready to mash into the Guitar when ended up weeping.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Adam Dunn Will Kill You

Even if he’s not trying

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason I loved the way Dunn just stopped after crushing him and looked down. If he had done the Hulk move it would have been the greatest ever.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Dammit, I’m gonna get blamed for this aren’t I?”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

just the way the stand there with his hands out like...

wtf I hope I didn’t break it

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching this one highlight somewhere, very nice clip.

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

See, and I know people love to see collisions, but this is where the umpires would really need to step in. If the catcher doesn’t have the ball and is blocking the plate, the runner should be able to just run around, knowing that obstruction will be called….or the runner needs to be called out if they make no attempt to touch the plate and only go for the catcher….this is not easy to determine I know…but if people don’t want to see these types of injuries, the rules need to be enforced. If not, we need to just shut up and enjoy the show

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I mena what happened here is the catcher was stupid and sauntered up the line into Dunn

because of the poor throw. He wasn’t trying to block the plate but he did walk right into the Donkey

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it looks like Santana had his eye on the ball instead of Dunn and they bumped into each other.

Because it’s Dunn he goes flying.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, but this is one of those instances where the runner should know that they can just run around the catcher and will be awarded home plate because of obstruction. For now they are not granted this, so it is expected that they will run over the catcher

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had no idea santana was going to at the last second run into him

thats not Dunn’s fault at all. Is he supposed to olay the dude? He didn’t have time to react there except to get his arms up and protect himself.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

My comment is about the larger discussion at hand…not necessarily this play. This would definitely be categorized as incidental contact (ass kicking) because of the way the play developed.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it was my bad for responding to this gif, since I am speaking in general. This is one of those instances where if Dunn had been knocked out or incapacitated without touching home plate, he should be awarded the base due to obstruction.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

there were talking about something like that

On MLBN. Someone like Dee would have the speed and agility to get around, like Bourn did in HOU to Navarro. But someone like Cousins doesn’t have much choice if he wants to score.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cousins could become a Dodger, and practice in Maury’s pit.

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its an exciting play

someone brought up nfl and padded helmets as an example, but in baseball the runner doesn’t have shoulder pads or a nice NFL helmet to use to crush a catchers head, which is a big part of what makes blows to the head so dangerous in the NFL.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, technically this is the rule.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

From Joplin

Yikes.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

wow

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d fire the guy who poured that cement

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I see what you did there

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought only Thor’s hammer could do that shit

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gra[thar

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I fucking hate my fingers sometimes

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of, have you guys seen the Thor commercial that is based on the Darth Vader kid commercial with the car? Brilliant. (Can’t get to youtube from work, so no link here)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it is pretty good.

by OB12 on May 27, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

thus endeth the tyranny

of the vampire curb

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

took that from reddit!

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

truebluela reddit and google.com/reader

though an rss feed feels like it shouldn’t count

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to chrome: Reddit-Google-TBLA-Arseblog

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the point where I feel bad for having no idea what reddit is

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re a better man for it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

BEST SITE EVER

its kind of like Digg but one million times better. And the comments are hilarious.

and they love puns. and cats.

by npurcell on May 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric hates cats!

he does love puns though

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

you don’t want to now. Really.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

know even.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

www.reddit.com

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

now you’ve done it. There goes everyone’s Friday productivity.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on May 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

David Cone is a hardcore SABR guy
Are there certain sites or columnists that you particularly like?

Yeah, I’m a big fan of Fangraphs.com and Dave Cameron. I love reading some of his stuff. Baseball-Reference.com is a tremendous resource, as well. There’s several out there, but my go-to is probably Fangraphs and Baseball-Reference.com. I love Fangraphs and the mountains of data you can get there, especially with hitters’ tendencies and what percentage of pitches they chase outside the strike zone. Across the board, when balls are put in play — you know exactly which guys are groundball hitters, certain tendencies. Some of the defensive metrics are pretty interesting, too, although it’s probably a little bit controversial still. But interesting nonetheless.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2011/05/david_cone_on_advanced_stats_t.html

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Kevin McHale, your new coach of the Houston Rockets

I would be so pissed right now if I were a Rockets fan. This hire makes the Mike Brown hire look like pure genius.

by Greg Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

If there is any front office that whole-heartedly agrees with the “coaches don’t matter” mantra, it’s the Rockets.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rocket fans are in love with their GM, or at least where in love with him 6 months ago.

They’ll trust his decision I bet

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hm.. what about Jim Buss..
He already piss me off by hiring Brown, but doing this?

Hm.. what about Jim Buss..
He already piss me off by hiring Brown, but doing this?http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Lakers-Bynum-untouchable-in-trade-talks;ylt=A2KJ3Cck499Np3YAi3VNbK5?urn=nba-357722
Oh god….

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops I wonder why I said the first two line twice o.O

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Lakers do seem to have a surprisingly high meltdown potential at the moment.

And coaches may not matter much, but a patsy coach who will let Kobe shoot 50 times per game does matter.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

patsy coach who will let Kobe shoot 50 times per game does matter.

Is that what we have here?

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

he didn't even run his own offense in cleveland

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I heard that today.

Jerry should let him run the Sparks and STFO of all things Lakers. He has been in the shadows for so long, first behind his dad and then Phil, he wants to let the world know his views.

by Greg Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly, from what I heard, Jim Buss is the one that “found” the Bynum, thus, that is the reason why he doesn’t want to trade him, lol….

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he does not want to trade him because he’s the only young valuable asset the team has.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

ask the lakers fans lol. I just know the general attitude towards the Rocket GM from hanging our the Houston Texans sbnation site

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is he supposed to say, though? The word untouchable means as much as “no trade clause.” It is merely a vehicle to drive up the price.

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can't win here

If you are honest

I’d love to trade Bynum for Dwight Howard, he’s an injury prone kid who may or may not ever reach his potential

like Ned, you get blasted

If you are not honest like Jim, you get blasted.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it could be used like that, but Bynum is injury-prone so I’m not sure how it works in this case, but I do hope it is used as merely a vehicle to drive up the price.

by LAD17 on May 27, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

“We want this injury-prone pseudo-star gone as soon as possible. He drives all of us insane with his inability to live up to his promise due to injuries and a lack of mental toughness.”

“So, New Orleans, about Chris Paul…”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

just hoping

Jim Buss was trying to maximize Bynum’s trade value by placing this “untouchable” label on him. I can hope, right?

by ishXdavid on May 27, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bynum is untouchable to everyone but the Laker’s training staff…

by WGiles24 on May 27, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

For all the Jersey Shore fans I've seen on here

I’m headed there in about an hour. Will report back on the merciless fist pumping and hoards of skanks.

by BFDC on May 27, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Please do

I hear Karma is the place to go at night.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to my jersey friends

The highlight of the weekend will be Sunday afternoon happy hour at this place called D-Jais or something like that.

by BFDC on May 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

pshhh

Karma is in Miami brotatos!

by npurcell on May 27, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

oops

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to Miami in 3 weeks for work

and I’m definitely going to fist pump at Karma. I’ll take pictures for everyone. It’ll be glorious.

by npurcell on May 27, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Be safe. But also don’t take any shit off anyone.

And don’t let anybody, ANYBODY, call you fake. You must throw down if that happens.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is t-shirt material.

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

most importantly

don’t ever fall in love at the shore

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Webster

Reminder that he makes his AA debut at 2:15 today. This is supposedly the biggest jump in pro baseball.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

You mean except for the one to the big leagues?

by BFDC on May 27, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

From what I’ve heard, going up from A is the biggest hurdle they will face. But what I do I know?

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

in the minors yes.

but majors still trumps everything.

by npurcell on May 27, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loney and Kapler can attest to this

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ned on Rubby

Yahoo Report

How the Dodgers use De La Rosa, the best prospect in the organization who was promoted from Double-A starter to the Dodgers’ bullpen on Tuesday, will be interesting.

"If we had an injury to one of the five guys in the rotation, he would be my choice," Colletti said. "I don’t want him to not be stretched out. You never know what we’ll need day-to-day. If he does stay up the rest of the year, and stays out of the bullpen, some could be 2-3 inning appearances.

"As time goes on, I’m not concerned if he’s got enough innings to be a starting pitcher next year. We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. We’re concerned about the 2011 season. Any experience he gets up here will super-seed any minor league experience he gets as a starter."

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

verbatim from DodgerTalk

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

super-seed???

the fuck?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Virility: 80.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Must be some sort of Appleseeding derivation

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

What, you expect Yahoo to have copy editors?

:-/

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by underdog on May 27, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

still, that’s like a HS kid wrote it after sounding it out

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Daddy has a headache this morning…”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously want to see Rubby for a 3 inning save a few times

that seems like a great way to use him, similar to how we joked about using padilla after we signed him. Who says mop up guys are the only ones who can pitch more then 2 innings.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heyman article

had some Dodger stuff

• Meanwhile, Dodgers owner Frank McCourt continues to be a thorn in MLB’s side. He has said he’ll be able to make the next payroll, but it seems like every pay period will be a major question now. "He should get out. He has to know the end is near,’’ said one L.A. lawyer familiar with his case.
• While there’s speculation that the Dodgers won’t be able to keep both Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier longterm since the owner has steep financial difficulties and both players’ contracts expire after next season, one person familiar with the situation said the Dodgers "have put out no calls and received no calls’’ about either outfielder. It is believed Dodgers baseball people would love to lock up both Kemp and Ethier longterm. A new owner could help there.
• Executives say Dodgers first baseman James Loney is a likely non-tender candidate as his power has not yet developed as hoped.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Its like other GMs know Colleti is too stubborn to sell

or see how shitty our division is and realize no way we give up this soon.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll just go on record

and say I’m not a fan of locking up Dre long term

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he’s the offensive face the franchise

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

got the photos to prove it :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey no one is taking pictures of Matt Kemp for half and hour

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

not of him batting anyway

/jokebetterusedlastyear

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp has a nice face

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

they're in DC

so they’re naturally behind the curve

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s one or the other you sign Kemp. No doubt.

Kemp and Kershaw are more of a priority than Ethier, but if you can’t afford to keep Ethier, we’re probably just wasting our time because you need all those guys (and more) to be competitive.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

hopefully a new owner

can handle more than 3-4 core players. I just don’t think Dre is they type to lock up even if money wasn’t an issue…he’s not young anymore, his power has disappeared since the finger injury, and he’s not athletic or a good defender.

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya. It’s hard to disagree with this.

Especially if you think he’s in line to get Jason Bay money.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the Dodgers score 143 runs in 2013.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon

is fast yo.

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. And his crazy splits against LHP and his streaky hitting make me want to deal him for a good haul if we are out of it by the middle

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has to know the end is near

Wasn’t that last weekend?

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is the Marlins pitching what is mostly winning them games?

or is their offense better then you make it sound? Are their 3 good hitters just THAT good?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

i believe their bullpen

is also much improved

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

4th in pitching, 6th in hitting. Three good hitters will take you a long way this year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers catch a break here by playing these guys when Johnson is on the DL and missing Sanchez.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Top 3 pitchers are good to great, Top 3 hitters are good to great, bullpen has been solid. Dobbs rakes against LHP so that is four above average hitters in the lineup, not counting Hanley who we know is better then all of them.

Big dropoff after the big three unless Vazquez turns it around. He might be getting there, he shut down the Rays and had increased velocity in doing so.

If they did not have to catch the Phillies I’d expect normalizing Hanley would be good enough to take the Division. I think this team would steamroll the West. They also have a solid bullpen piece in Jose Ceda to move up. They are good enough that if they need another spot in the rotation they should go for it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dobbs rakes against LHP RHP

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am going to temper my enthusiasm that Casey Blake is coming back

having learned from Raffy. (I’m still glad he’s back but his bat is clearly still on the DL.) And it sounds like the Beard hasn’t quite been a ready for prime time player yet either. But anyone who keeps us from seeing too much Miles and Castro is okay in my book.

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by underdog on May 27, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm enjoying this exchange
@ascheink: Looking to hire some developer/journalists for a new team at the @huffingtonpost. Get in touch if interested
@DanGrazianoESPN: LOL. Run away..

also retweeted by Peter King. From wiki:

In April 2011, The Huffington Post was targeted with a multimillion dollar lawsuit filed in United States District Court in New York by Jonathan Tasini on behalf of thousands of uncompensated bloggers

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

lol bloggers want to get paid

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean

creative content generators aren’t just happy with exposure? Ingrates.

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have so many friends who wrote for Cinematical who will both laugh and cry at that.

And shake their fists.

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by underdog on May 27, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barajas or Navarro tonight?

Any indication? Tea leaves?

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

“Yes”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Appearances aside, it’s not easy being the straight man.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s probably why attendance is up at Pride! : )

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

{drums}. But seriously folks….

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean it’s not just because Macy Grey is huge right now

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Macy Grey’s weight isn’t relevant here

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't decide

If I see the face of Jesus or the face of Mary in that mug

by The Dude Abides on May 27, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lineup guesses!

Against Righties

Furcal
Carrol
Etheir
Kemp
Blake
Loney
Sands
Barajas

Against lefties

Furcal
Carrol
Etheir
Kemp
Blake
Sands
Loney
Barajas

primary pinch hitter Gibbons

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

RHP:

Furcal
Carroll
Ethier
Kemp
Loney
Blake
Gibbons
Barajas

LHP:

Furcal
Carroll
Ethier
Kemp
Blake
Loney
Sands
Barajas

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am concerned about Gibbons being the primary RH hitter

but I think Sands gets time against righties too, wouldn’t be surprised to see them split time against righties with the way sands has been hitting. I really think Sands will bat ahead of Loney against lefties too.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

gibbons gets the

“tough righties”

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gibbons intrigues me

I honestly feel like he could be a productive LF so I would hate to see him just sit on the bench and not get the chance, but I would still rather see Sands play.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone in favor of expanding the AL West with a Calgary team? Indoors, of course.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Calgary CA?

Are there enough people in Canada who would watch to make it worth it? A team in Mexico would be cool if Mexico didn’t suck so much right now.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

it would be nice for Toronto to have some company

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montreal worked until 1995 when the owner sold off all the good players. Loria just made it worse, much as he has in Miami. With a decent ballpark and deep pockets, who knows.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Miami they have put together a team much better than any in the NL West.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it plays in front of empty seats.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida hates baseball

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida hates being outside in the summer.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

what's Tampa's excuse?

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine if Dodger Stadium was in Upland and the only way to get there was via a two way bridge.

Now imagine if Dodger Stadium was completely unsuited to hosting a professional sports team.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

build a new stadium then

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, but those cost money.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

gotta spend money to make money

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

no need to imagine

other than the Upland part

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i didnt expect that from you

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, he’s a downtowner.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

clearly

how else would you know about petes burger

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

getting there is balls

but I like it once I’m in

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tampa

has one of the worst economies in the US, and has for years, and I know the stadium sucks, but if they can’t draw for that team last year they never will in the new economy of scarcity we all live in. The weather is not an excuse, the way the community is planned and organized is.

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, like I said, where the Stadium is located in relation to where people actually live is terrible.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida hates being outside

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida hates being

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida hates

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

F

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

. . -

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 27, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They put together a good team, what else can you do?

As baseball fans what do we care if people don’t appreciate good teams.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I was talking about viable homes for teams, not the teams themselves. Montreal supported baseball until the infamous “fire sale” and never came back. I doubt that it is viable now, but maybe with a major local commitment, it could be. Miami, if I lived there, I’d go see that team a lot, they’re always interesting, but Loria has a talent for undermining fan bases. I’m not sure what those folks would turn out for besides the Dolphins.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Heat?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I confess to not paying attention, did they finally sell out a playoff game?

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whenever this came up I would always say Puerto Rico and Portland.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Puerto Rico could be cool

but would they do it with how far way from florida it is? Long term I can’t see it working.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

In truth I can’t really see anything working.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

but we need 2 more teams!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why if you make the decision to expand, you have to just accept that no destination will ever be as viable as the Dodgers (or Angels), Cubs or Yankees and you have to use revenue sharing to make up for that.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

or you could contract(which will never happen)

and then go back to 2 divisions per league with the top 2 teams per division making the playoffs, and for interleague each division takes turns playing the divisions from the other league ie 1 year the al east plays the nl west and the next the al east plays the nl east. I just want a balanced schedule but thats never gonna happen.

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

why Calgary and not Vancouver or Portland?

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

too close to Seattle?

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what population density is like up there though

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pains me to say that baseball is dead in Portland. They went all in on soccer.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could Vegas not sustain a team?

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

No money to build that indoor sports complex anymore.

And, no I don’t think they could anyway. Untraditional work hours based on gaming would make it difficult to draw for weeknight games.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not enough

but a lot of road fans would be there.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend that works for the 51s and at no point did “going to go see a baseball game” ever cross my mind in Vegas.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could plan a vacation around it. “I’m a Phillies fan and the team is playing in Vegas in May. Vegas Trip!”

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you would more often if the dodgers were playing. And besides, I can’t see what anybody has to do after about hour 36 in vegas anyways.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

re-count your winnings?

by Eric Stephen on May 27, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

integers…..

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

does sleep count?

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on May 27, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It should have. Minor League ball is always fun. But MLB is very different from MiLB. If there was a major league team, it would have crossed your mind.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 27, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the hype around a Vegas team

died with the economy.

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vegas ;)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vegas!

Will be there next weekend! Party time.

by npurcell on May 27, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Western Canada

is feeling good right about now cos of their booming oil economy, it can sustain a team much better than the putrid Vega$ economy or Portland…but travel and the fact that MLB won’t expand make it moot.

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by Pure Azure on May 27, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

200 million for 49 percent of the mets seems like a pretty good deal

am I wrong?

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

No, sounds good to me.

Haven’t been paying attention, is that 49% of the holding company or just the team? The reason I ask is because SNY ( I think) does pretty well so if that’s not in the purchase it might make more sense.

by Michael White on May 27, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

SNY is not included.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it is for that much

based on estimates I have seen, that is closer for 30% or so.

by bhsportsguy on May 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

This could be interesting

Einhorn just called for Ballmer’s head because he doesn’t think Microsoft is making enough money.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend who runs a website

that gets 5 million hits a month. It relies mostly on other content holders requesting to put up links to their own sites that she in turn reviews and if approved, they go up on the site. If a viewer clicks on the link (which is imprinted on a photo that the requester submitted), they are directed to that person’s site.

My friend keeps the revenue derived from all the hits that she gets on her site but her site does direct others to other sites so they do get some benefit.

by bhsportsguy on May 27, 2011 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Is the that the “you shouldn’t” scene? I remember Jon Weisman talking about it, and I wanted to see it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

(can’t see youtube at work)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does a yellow light mean?

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 27, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

aaah ok

i’ve seen that one. heh heh

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

A’s trade David Purcey for Scott Sizemore, probably ending Mark Ellis’ career. Not a terrible get for a guy they pulled off waivers.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Sizemore was a guy

the Tigers thought of as their second baseman of the future correct?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Started him there in 2010, had 100 bad PA, has since been replaced by Will “.230 slugging” Ryhmes until a few weeks ago, where Sizemore got the job back, and then sucked again.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

wonder if this means

we can trade a pen arm for Chris Davis

Rangers want a RHP :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have a pen arm?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 27, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

hm Davis is back to not sucking

in a SSS kind of way.

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

or MacDougal or Hawksworth

before one of them comes back to earth (talking xFIP)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whenever we play on the not westcoast I get impatient having to wait till 7 for baseball

I want it now. /wahh

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

plus

10 of the next 16 games will have Vin! HOORAY!!

Actually, next month should be mostly Vin, as the Dodgers will play the Reds, Phillies, and Twins on the road. The rest are at home except for 4 games in COL where Vin will go.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I felt like someone slapped me when I realized Matt and Andre could be gone by 2013

Our window is only one year. FUCK

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

our best hope almost seems to be sands becoming an etheir or kemp type bat

and filling out our rotation with rubby and another guy from our system to give us the capital to go get another big bat or two. Unless our system manages to produce more bats, but we seem to have more good pitching then we do hitting right now, at least at the higher levels.

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

still hoping

for Kyle Russell!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

25 TBLA Points

How many home runs has Mike Stanton hit in May?
Who has hit more this week,(Mon – Thurs) Corey Hart, Jay Bruce, or Mike Stanton?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

he’s hit 9

and I believe Corey Hart

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA Bingo

Tommy answers both questions – gets 25 TBLA Points

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

boo yah!

145 for me!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hart had three in one game, so I will go with Hart

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw you say 9 in the comments earlier

but I’m too late :(

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on May 27, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Webster's off to a tough start in AA

Walked his first batter, throwing error on pickoff attempt, followed by a wild pitch. Nerves..

by wonderphenom on May 27, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Toughest jump in pro baseball. :)

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Made it through the first with no runs! Good job recovering like that!

by wonderphenom on May 27, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamer, battler, no quit, heart, grinder, gumption

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep – many would fold in that situation.

by wonderphenom on May 27, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Words used to describe Eckstein!

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should pour some dirt and fake blood on his uniform, too.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Use the mouse button to click that, btw.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Number 2 is quite high for us, we usually get mentioned lower.

Every one of Russell’s hits this week was an extra-base hit—he’s still looking to crush every pitch. And he’s struck out 55 times already—33 percent of his at-bats. It’s hard to find anyone who strikes out that often who has success at the big league level. Russell’s power is legit, but there are still some further steps he has to make before he’s ready to mash in the majors.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOT-SO HOT SHEET
• Trayvon Robinson, cf, Dodgers. A May slump (.700 OPS) has counterbalanced an April surge (.959) by Robinson, and at no time has that been more evident than this week. The 23-year-old went 1-for-21 (.048) with a single, a walk and 10 strikeouts for Triple-A Albuquerque. Robinson made the most of a bad situation by going 1-for-1 on steal attempts and by scoring a run both times he reached base.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

MAN AMONG BOYS
The 23-year-old got back on the mound with high Class A Rancho Cucamonga on Monday, returning to the same level he pitched at most of last year. The Dodgers’ top pick as a sandwich rounder in 2009, Miller tossed six innings and allowed a run on three hits in his 2011 debut. He also struck out nine and handed out just two walks. Miller proved he can handle the California League last year, when he went 6-2, 2.92, so he shouldn’t be too long for that level if he gets on a roll.

Talking about Aaron Miller

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by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm having a hard time being excited about withrow anymore

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

tru

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

might be a future pen arm

But he did do ok his last outing yes?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 27, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he could go longer then 5 innings in more starts he would look better

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should have been moved up

after one start. Guys like Savage and Newby are just warm bodies.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

/dead horse

gotta do something about the strikeouts

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

For 13 Josie points

What team is credited with putting the first logo on a baseball cap? For 5 bonus points, what year did they do it?

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Red Stockings?

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on May 27, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cheater Cheater Pumpkin Eater

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

though to varify, was it the old D or the a Tiger logo?

by Josie Becker on May 27, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

rawr

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That looks like a gay pride stance, and he’s about to use the bat to roll some dough

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good player. Young player.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good player. Young player.

by silverwidow on May 27, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could hear your voice rise

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 27, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or does he have really long legs

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. How long are your legs?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on May 27, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

no clue!

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

quick 2nd for webster

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by nolander on May 27, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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