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Elbows Sideline Ethier, Broxton

Andre Ethier is two games away from Willie Davis, and 10 games away from Willy Aybar.

As Andre Ethier tries to extend his hitting streak to 30 games today, against Carlos Zambrano of the Cubs, I started thinking about hitting streaks. UPDATE: Ethier has been scratched, with a sore left elbow, per Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times. Elbow problems abound!

Ethier has exactly one hit in each of his last three games -- two infield singles, and a looper just over the outstretched glove of second baseman Darwin Barney last night -- and I wondered, what is the longest LA Dodger streak of getting exactly one hit in each game?

Willy Aybar leads the pack:

Longest LA Dodger Streak With Exactly One Hit
Player Year Games
Willy Aybar 2006 13
Cesar Izturis 2003 11
Rafael Furcal 2009 10
Cesar Izturis 2004 10
Adrian Beltre 2001 10
Duke Snider 1961 10

Ethier is 8-for-18 with a double and two walks against Zambrano in his career. Ted Lilly starts for the Dodgers. Both Lilly and Zambrano pitched in the series in Wrigley Field a week and a half ago, in separate games, and both pitched badly. Each pitcher allowed more runs than innings.

Broxton Shutdown

In the least surprising development of the day, Jonathan Broxton has been shut down with elbow pain, per Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.

Lineups

Jay Gibbons and Russ Mitchell become the 19th and 20th Dodgers position players to start a game this season, in their 32nd game of the season.

Cubs   Dodgers
SS Castro LF Gwynn
2B Barney 2B Miles
CF Byrd RF Gibbons
3B Ramirez CF Kemp
RF Baker
SS Uribe
C Soto 1B Loney
LF Soriano C Navarro
1B Peña 3B Mitchell
P Zambrano         
P Lilly                  

*****

Game Time: 12:10 p.m.

TV: Prime Ticket

MLB Gameday

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Broxton has been shut down with elbow pain, per Mattingly via Gurnick

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

And so it begins. Cue up the blame Torre express line.

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a long line.

I’ll just do self-check out.

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

it sucks trying to use coupons in the self-checkout line

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It does indeed.

Reminds me of this hilarious Patton Oswalt bit.

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he and his agent are double-checking the “games finished” incentives in his contract.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

So we now we wait to find out if it is day to day or DL time. MRI probably going to happen today or tomorrow.
Kenley
Link
Lindblom
Elbert

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on May 4, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Link is my guess

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not on the 40-man anymore

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

elbert it is!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has to be Elbert of that crew

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

It can be Kenley, right? Broxton to DL, Kenley’s option canceled.

by silverwidow on May 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It can be, sure. I just don’t necessarily think it will be.

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially since he “pitched” today.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

They can always kick Gimenez to the 60-day to make room for Lindblom, or even Link, but I wonder if that will happen.

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quick

who gains the most incentives based on PT who can still reach that incentive :)

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe thinks he’s a wuss.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

least surprising.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on May 4, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s that inverted W motion. His elbow goes way over his shoulder.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on May 4, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

your elbow HAS to go over your shoulder or you hurt your elbow majorly. It’s far more likely from all the torque on such a pudgy frame.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew what he meant, but that motion is totally normal as long as your elbow then gets above your shoulder before release, which IIRC Broxton does.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m actually a lot upset that I never noticed that. I always saw that he did the inverted elbow thing, but he threw so hard I assumed he got to where he needed to be. I’ve looked at a lot of pictures now of him and they’re all the same.

Thanks for this. I’m going to keep a better eye on this for other pitchers and my students.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give us a narrative please. Is there something he is doing wrong or right? Details, we want details.

by Xeifrank on May 4, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok so

if your elbows are above your shoulder when you land, it’s extremely difficult to get your elbow back above your shoulder on release, and you end up pushing the ball and putting all that torque on your elbow. It is, however, possible.

If you get your elbow above your shoulder on release like you’re supposed to, then the whip of your arm extends out passed your elbow to your forearms, wrist and eventually fingers. Otherwise, you just whip your arm until your elbow and then push the ball with almost entirely your elbow as the driving force.

Does that make sense?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably makes sense, but I need a checklist version. I work in checklists.

Where should your elbow(s) be when you land?
Where should your elbow(s) be when you release?

by Xeifrank on May 4, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Easier way to say it might be: that it relates to timing. It is believed you want your forearm at a vertical position when your foot lands and you prepare to release. Inverted W causes a lag (especially if your stride isn’t long enough) that then puts extra stress on your shoulder and elbow.

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

correct. It jacks up the timing and changes where the end strains are. Pitching is already stressful and unnatural on your arm and body, taking the pressures from the big muscles and puttinng it on small muscles and tendons/ligaments is no go.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check it

Strasburg has the same issues. Inverted W, elbow below shoulder at release

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

And a lot of people saw his issues coming

Used to hear a lot from people who wanted him straight to the majors, the big reason was that his arm was gonna explode at some point, might as well maximize the ML innings.

by EMDarrow on May 4, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

when your front foot lands, your upper arm should be parallel to the ground, with your elbow even or (very) slightly below your shoulders, lower arms making a 90° angle also parallel to the ground.

when you release, your elbow should be above your shoulder, your hand above your elbow, arm extending towards home plate

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

From here he looks okay

It’s totally possible that he started dropping his elbow after the overwork issues mid-2010.

This is a picture of him at the 2010 All Star Game a month after the Yankees series. Maybe he’s just not consistent.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

and on that night he threw between 98-100mph

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

But there are people who think the inverted W theory is BS, right? I don’t know enough to comment either way.

by guy clinch on May 4, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think a big thing is that we really don’t know so a lot of this stuff is still developing and can change suddenly. Hell “Inverted W”ark Prior was praised for his mechanics when he came up.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on May 4, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think its BS

becaues it should just be called the M theory

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of people think (and I agree) that it is just a timing thing and this particular brand of mechanics contributes more to bad timing than others. It could just as easily be blamed on bad stride length than what your arms are doing though.

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea I never picked up on it either. Harder to notice with him in one inning stints plus he hunkers down a lot more before he spreads out.

Looks a lot like Wainwright, Reyes, Bonderman, et al. The big problem too with these mechanics is that he doesn’t stride far enough, and its likely this has gotten worse as he has gotten more out of shape.

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

What bothers me is, if all of this stuff is available and noticeable to us, what have the Dodgers noticed and what are they doing about it?

No offense to G., but an MLB team should have people far more skilled and knowledgeable and trained than yahoos like us on a blog to diagnose and treat these kinds of problems. If the Dodgers can’t see a problem like this, then they are guilty of baseball negligence. If they see these problems and aren’t willing to do what it takes to fix them, then they are guilty of baseball malpractice. If they see these problems, are actively trying to fix them and not getting results, then they are guilty of baseball suckiness and need to be fired, and new coaches/medical staff need to be brought in.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably because not everyone with these mechanics gets injured. There is just a correlation. They’re not going to mess with a guy’s mechanics when you’re a lights out pitcher (or at least was). Same goes for guys like Wainwright, Strasburg, etc…

Plus this is newer info. I’m guessing now that it is coming to light, the steps to take are just to get your younger pitchers away from this.

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, even if a coach, trainer, whoever, sees it, the player still has to want to change. I’d guess many/most won’t want to change anything when they can throw 95+ and got to and have stayed in the majors this way.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is more what I assume

“Jon, if you keep doing that your elbow is going to blow up”

“Fuck you, I’m the millionaire throwing 100mph”

/speculation

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or

even if he wanted to change, he’s probably been doing it since he was 9.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand what you’re talking about, show me a picture of him at release.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marty is stronger than he thought.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe he hastned the fall

but the fall was coming eventually one way or another

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going with XPaul’s hitting coach.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers against Zambrano
PA  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS

Aaron Miles 37 10 1 1 0 0 2 2 .294 .351 .382 .734
Juan Uribe 32 6 1 0 1 5 2 8 .214 .290 .357 .647
Andre Ethier 20 8 1 0 0 1 2 3 .444 .500 .500 1.000
James Loney 18 5 0 0 0 2 1 0 .313 .389 .313 .701
Matt Kemp 14 5 1 0 1 4 1 6 .417 .500 .750 1.250
Tony Gwynn 13 5 1 0 0 1 1 1 .417 .462 .500 .962
Jamey Carroll 9 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .125 .125 .250 .375
Dioner Navarro 6 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .200 .333 .200 .533
Rod Barajas 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Chad Billingsley 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
Hiroki Kuroda 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
Vicente Padilla 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .000 .500 .000 .500
Jay Gibbons 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000
Total 162 42 6 1 2 15 11 25 .292 .356 .389 .745

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 5/4/2011.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on May 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

we got this

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by nolander on May 4, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I could have removed the pitchers:)

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on May 4, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Gwynn instead of Gibbons would've been the only other idea there

Given it’s a day game and thus players rested, seems the lineup is about as sensible as it could be. If still sucky. But… if Zambrano can melt down on cue, we got this.

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would have like to see Gwynn given Lilly’s fly ball tendencies and its a day game, but whatever.

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The C Team

Starring Jay Gibbons, Russ Mitchell and Dioner Navarro. Special guest appearance by Aaron Miles.

by Xeifrank on May 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Andre Ethier has a sore elbow too. Clearly, we need to get Casey Blake the fuck out of that clubhouse.

Quarantine!!!

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

this is going to be the

“everything goes wrong” season isn’t it

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

2005v11

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

pretty sure that happened last year

because the only thing worse than the dodgers sucking is the giants winning on top of it.

by stevesaxaphone on May 4, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda feels like it already is. Except last season was, too.

:-(

Is there an animal sacrifice we can perform, a la whatever the Giants did last year, to get out of this mojo?

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

last year we just sucked

this year we suck AND are injured

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, but there was also Manny-gate early in season

and McCourt Divorce, etc. lots of bad stuff started last year. This year they would suck less without injuries.

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Without injuries, that Furcal, Sands, Dre, Kemp, Uribe, Loney, Blake, Barajas lineup with the Broxton, Kuo, Padilla back bullpen looks sexy.

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah honestly the lineup would be totally fine if everyone's healthy

We could of course argue they didn’t have good enough contingencies in place for 2 players who are injury prone or older (Raffy or Blake) but if healthy the lineup would not be an issue. They’d score runs. Depending on Brox and Kuo and Padilla also might have been too much, too…

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the Dodgers
Mattingly: Broxton came in today and complained about some right elbow pain. Didn’t give a length of time that it was bothering him

Classic “I’m fine, I’m fine, I’m fine, it hurts.” player move

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

smh

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Classic “I better be fine, it’s my contract year, shit I’m not fine, I hope they offer arbitration still” move?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Strong post-surgery September will boost his value :)

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

it only takes one September 97mph fastball for him to go back to that 3 year 30mil deal. Is he the new Kerry Wood?

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nooner

Early game today, last call for contest-hol. We reset our points, so it’s a good time to jump in. Today’s five questions along with the game score are…

A. Dodgers runs minus Cubs runs: 0.5
B. T.Lilly strikeouts minus C.Zambrano strikeouts: 0.5
C. Andre Ethier hitting streak: 29.5
D. Dodgers extra base hits: 2.5
E. Dodgers bullpen total pitches: 44.5

Bonus Question
F. Number of sore Dodgers players with sore elbows: 2.5

by Xeifrank on May 4, 2011 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice

I took the over on F

No Rafael Furcals were hurt in the making of this video.

by G.Scott on May 4, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the heads up

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

Kristen Schaal is so many levels of hilarious

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

her bit on the human giant mtv special was amazing

she basically pretended to play the accordian after suffering a severe headwound. crying and bleeding as she played and sang. I died.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 4, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jealous! She must be fun to talk to and hard not to giggle.

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh I was cracking up the whole time, she has the best comedic timing among female comics right now.

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

By far the funniest Daily Show correspondent right now.

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on May 4, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

(Olivia Munn is by far the least funny)

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on May 4, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is baseball. And baseball is unpredictable. We will score 10 runs today.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Fact. This motley crew will come together in the face of adversity and win one for the yipper.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which will convince D2X to start several of these guys more than he should, at which point they’ll revert to their typical level of suck and we’ll average like 2 R/G over the next week or so.

by EMDarrow on May 4, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if you and Kinbote are both correct

That’s a total of 4 runs for the next 6 games combined. I’m no stat geek, but that’s not good.

by Greg Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nabokov talk

I put in a 2 week notice which means I will be sipping tea and reading at my desk. I have the Nabokov short stories in my backpack. Any favorites?

by guy clinch on May 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lance

is his greatest (imo), and it’s also his last. Just an amazing work.

(I love them all, of course—they are like Shakespeare’s sonnets. Each has detail, style to spare.)

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. And that one was written in English, no?

by guy clinch on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. I almost know that opening paragraph by heart. (That story is one of his only plays on science fiction. If it doesn’t move you, I dunno . . .)

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Signs and Symbols is pretty incredible, too, iirc

and The Vane Sisters

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big time

Those are of the same period. Great choices. Another that’s frequently anthologized (with good reason) is “Spring in Fialta” [is cloudy and dull]. Sorry folks.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

“The Vane Sisters” has a hidden acrostic in it that’s pretty cool and prefigures some stuff in Pale Fire.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heard this

Ned read it and was so moved, he refused to ever let it go.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you dare! I don’t like the name, and that’s why it was never in consideration for either of my sons’ names (my firstborn’s middle name is Vladimir), but my second son’s name can be made from letters contained in Lance (not all of them). I like the associations with Lancelot and the fact it’s a weapon (like a bodkin), but, yeah, it’s also the name of two crummy relievers we’ve had. :)

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

The one where he choked and the Sharks didn’t win the series. It was so awesome, I read it practically every year in the aughts.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have no idea how badly I wanted that jersey. Until I found out how much jerseys cost.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

My elbow hurts now

Fuck

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 4, 2011 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

You had a good run.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Ethier's streak ends we can blame Gary Radnich on KNBR

who, to his credit, said it was worth talking about that streak and he was even rooting for him to keep it going. He and Bruno chatted about it briefly. But of course now it will end… thanks Gary!

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by underdog on May 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

FUCK

Ethier now scratched too

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I blame Gary Radnich

Bleh.

WHO HAS CURSED OUR TEAM!?!

I blame McCourt.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t hassle The Hoff.

by silverwidow on May 4, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trent “I’m going crazy at AAA” Oeltjen says hi too.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sands in right?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Miles

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha

Thank god we have him.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gibbons in RF, batting 3rd.

Gwynn leading off in LF

Refresh

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gwynn in LF

Gibbons in RF. Apparently, per Dodgers Live.

by Alex41592 on May 4, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Ethier scratched w/left elbow inflammation, Gwynn will lead off in LF, Gibbons shifts to RF and will bat 3rd

http://twitter.com/Dodgers

by Alex41592 on May 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is comic gold.

by OB12 on May 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t see can’t field
What can you do
Can’t see can’t hit
What can you do

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another inflammation! What is there staph in the team showers?

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frank hogs all the chlorine.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha. I knew there had to be a good joke there

by BFDC on May 4, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

ugh

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Winning > Streak
joe_block: Mattingly said pre-game if (injured) Ethier didn’t start he’d still pinch-hit him if he thought Ethier could help win game

by silverwidow on May 4, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Also streak = winning :)

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Way to go, Mr. Noble.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

last year, Andre-meter, Andre breaks his pinky. Now he’s got Elbow inflamation, mere moments after this article was posted : )

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

the pinky was his own fault

he shoudln’t had said he didn’t knew who ely was.

by XXDC2XX on May 4, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Inverted W

So I’m sitting here waiting for the last student in the last final of Hellmester 2011, reading through the page, and I have to ask…isn’t an “inverted W” also known as an M?

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I made that joke 30 minutes ago!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, skimming through the page….

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

btw, an inverted w is not an m. one has straight lines the other angles. If your kid made an m that looked like an upside down w they’d go to special school

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its an uppercase not lowercase W

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is somebody eating Alphabits right now and can help?

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Why are there no vowels in my bowl of Alphabits?”

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

m/w does not equal M/W, as both of the latter are pointy.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

but still, the M isn’t angled like the W

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The M is skinnier, which I will grant does not fit Broxton.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Statement Followed By A Question Separated By A Colon: An Effective Journalistic Technique?

/theonion

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

With an injured elbow, I think he’s currently the square root symbol.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are we talking cursive or print here? I assumed cursive.

by Xeifrank on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

MWhite should settle the matter.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t post here anymore..

:)

by keithc13 on May 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Straight lines. Angles. You’re absolutely killing the Geometry teacher in me.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least I didn’t call it a parallelogram

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the outline of a capital M is a parallelogram, insofar as a rectangle is a parallelogram. A W would be an isosceles trapezoid.

The geometrically-correct way of stating your point is that the sides of a capital M are parallel (and vertical), whereas the sides of a W are not parallel (and diagonal oblique).

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally understand you.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 4, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do the Liberal Arts.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like Debbie does Dallas amirite?

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been looking for a big W

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on May 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was searching for some treehouses to visit and I came across a “tree circus” with all these shaped and molded trees. Weird stuff. Unnatural.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

dooouuuuuble-uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 4, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if this means we’ll get the very very rare live Vinny open.

by Alex41592 on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Assuming he’s also not nursing a sore elbow.

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m tempted to put Bill O’Reilly’s picture up here.

by silverwidow on May 4, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

how dare you put O’Reilly in a Vin thread

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

O’Reilly? Ya’Reilly.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did Vin

say anything last night about the current events? He’s always been such a supporter of the military.

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

He was describing the scene the previous night at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia as the Mets were playing the Phillies. Word of bin Laden’s death spread through the stands and the crowd began chanting “USA!! USA!!”

“And you know where they were in the game at that point? The ninth inning,” Scully said. “The score tied 1 to 1. Nine one one. Nine eleven. How about that?”

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/Scully-tells-bin-Laden-Anecdote-121171844.html

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

the Mets wore the American flag caps Monday night

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vinny loves his numerology :)

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on May 4, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dueces wild is his fave.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's true

2 balls, 2 strikes, 2 on, 2 out, bottom of the 2nd, score tied at 2 would has to be his favorite game situation.

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on May 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Maddz can school him in gematria.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He mentioned it on Monday night

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s right, last night was Tuesday. But I watched Monday night’s game too. I must have just not been paying attention. Pregame or 6th inning?

by Josie Becker on May 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier sitting today

Always forget the rule, but if Ethier doesn’t play at all today, but has a hit on Friday, does the streak go to 30 consecutive games? Know Davis didn’t miss a game nor do I think Rose did.

by wineracquet on May 4, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Streak only counts games actually played by the player.

by Eric Stephen on May 4, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The PH grand slam he hits in the 8th today will be epic.

by keithc13 on May 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Donnie will pinch hit with Blake first before he uses Dre.

Let the Bison roam.

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 4, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

what kinda lineup is this? I guess i’ll call this the forfeit lineup because thats basically what were doing today IMO

by uschris0304 on May 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vin Scully Doesn’t Understand Your Newfangled Haircut, Troy Tulowitzki

http://deadspin.com/#!5616896/vin-scully-doesnt-understand-your-newfangled-haircut-troy-tulowitzki

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Is the To Kill a Mockingbird sig new in honor of this post?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 4, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

nah

I’ve had that for a few days now

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on May 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Way to bring it full circle.

by kinbote on May 4, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

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