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We got this

If such a gifted and renowned baseball writer such as Dave Cameron can predict the Rockies to win the Western Division based on just a few weeks of baseball games, then a flawed blogger can predict the Dodgers to win this Division after one third of the season has been played,  even while sitting in fourth place.

I know I'm not climbing out on the kind of limb that Dave Cameron climbed out on. It took an arrogance rarely seen other than in ESPN writers to call a division in April.

For the educated baseball fan  there is little evidence the Dodgers can pull off this feat. The Dodgers are in fourth place, closer to last place then first place, have never been able to string together more then three wins in a row, and are embarking on a road trip that will see them take on contenders not pretenders on every stop.

No matter, we got this. 

Everything that could go wrong for the Dodgers may have already happened. The Dodger setbacks  were short term, the loss of  Buster Posey and Jorge De La Rosa are long term.  This is a non stat zone analysis, completely subjective, no WAR, no OPS+, no ERA+, no xFIP, just simple old fashioned bullshit. 

The Dodgers entered the 2011 with some givens and some questions.

  •  One of the best rotations from 1 - 5 in baseball
  •  A deep and gifted bullpen
  •  A strong hitting right fielder
  •  Which Matt Kemp would show up? The good one or the GREAT ONE
  •  Would Juan Uribe help or hinder the offense?
  •  Rafy Furcal would get hurt, Jamey Carroll would replace him with no one the wiser.
  •  Would anyone step up in left field or would the platoon be the answer?
  • An enigma at 1st base
  • No money for reinforcements
  • A distracting ownership situation

It is obvious what has put the kibosh on the Dodger season.

  • The deep and gifted bullpen lost every single member of the original bullpen that they were counting on other than Matt Guerrier. Broxton lost to stubbornness, Kuo to mental anxiety, Padilla twice to arm trouble, Jansen to arm trouble, Hawksworth to groin trouble. 
  • James Loney decided that his ineptitude in the 2nd half last year could not only be replicated but surpassed.
  • Casey Blake got an infection, not the normal injury that shelf's a major leaguer for a month. The domino effect of losing three infielders at the same time (Blake, Uribe, and Furcal) meant the Dodger infield resembled the Good (Carroll), the Bad (DeJesus), and the Ugly (Aaron Miles).
  • Hector Gimenez  counted on to be the lightening rod of triumph was shelf-ed and may never be seen again
  • Juan Uribe proved that he can look as awful at the plate for stretches of time as anyone who has ever donned the blue.
  • Early on left field was even more of a problem than even the most pessimistic fan would have expected. 

Within all these troubles,  a sliver of hope emerged from each one of them, hope that one can easily grasp onto if they look hard enough.

  • The original bullpen may have blown a gasket, but the kiddie playpen did just fine in their absence. Scott Elbert, Javy Guerra, and Rubby De La Rosa, stepped into the void and performed well enough that as the broken brigade start to filter back one can feel confident the Dodgers have some arms for the long summer battle for supremacy.
  • James Loney came off his putrid April to put up a decent May. It was not great, it was however productive, and that is all we ask of James Loney. Don't create a maelstrom that sucks everyone down with you, stay afloat, catch the occasional wave, paddle back out, and for Gods Sake stop playing against LHP. 
  • Casey Blake is back, he should be ready to go for the rest of the season, getting the occasional day off someone his age needs to stay energized. 
  • As bad as Juan Uribe looked at times, his defense was solid and sometimes spectacular at 3rd. When he was locked in for that one week, he was terrific. It seems obvious that when he comes back he will have more stretches of terrificness then suckiness because he already had so many of the suckiness weeks. Why else would Ned have given him all that money? When Uribe comes back, Casey Blake can play 1st base against LHP, letting Jamey Carroll play some second.  When the infield is healthy it is one flexible unit that need never let Aaron Miles get off the bench. 
  • Left field might be in good hands. Maybe not Apartment 4E good hands but still Jerry Sands looks like he will be an average left fielder. He is certainly no Billy Ashly, maybe more a right handed Todd Hollandsworth type. If Gibbons and Thames had not been hurt, we might not have seen the promise of Sands, so hopefully good came from the bad. At the least he appears to be a lefty masher, the real question is will he hit right handers enough to keep Gibbons on the bench. This writer thinks he can.

Some of the good things Dodger fans counted on have happened. The Dodgers have a rotation that has missed only one start, a rotation that may boast the best pitcher in the NL West, a rotation that may boast the best number five starter in the Division, a rotation that has the best Japanese pitcher in the country, a rotation that has the best over 30 lefty in the Division, a rotation that has a man with emotional issues that only certain writers know about who may overcome those demons of a shy personality to take his game to a level only his fans can dream of. A rotation dreams are made of. Neds dreams. Our dreams. Dodger dreams

While the rotation is just about all you need to call the Division the Dodgers have more. A right fielder who has yet to hit the hot streak he is famous for, he still has 25 home runs to hit this year, the center fielder who would appear to be capable of making a claim for the MVP. A one / two punch the envy of baseball. Sure they don't have 10 year, gazillion dollar contracts, they don't inspire the press unless they are part of trade talks,  but by the end of this season will there be any doubt that the CF/RF combination of Matt / Andre was the best the Ravine has ever had paired together?

No one has a Jamey Carroll. The Diamondbacks may think they have one in Bloomquist, but they don't. The Giants thought they had one in DeRosa but not surprisingly he ended up with a limp wrist in San Francisco. Our Jamey plays second, SS, or 3rd with aplomb, while slapping singles wherever he can, and doing whatever he can to help the team be the best they can be. 

By Sept the Ravine will be full again as the Dodgers mount their victorious comeback, no longer will we hear Vinny say 36,000 in attendance with a smirk in his voice as he looks upon the empty seats. Instead he will again revel in the roar of a sold out crowd as pennant fever grips this town. Gang bangers will return and  be high fiving the crowd as they are escorted away, beach balls will fly, peanuts will be thrown, history will be made.

Be there when it happens, don't miss the chance to tell the kids, you were there when the Elevens made their mad dash to glory. These things only happen once, and once can last 25 years.  

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wow kershaw and lincecums stat lines are almost the exact same!!

by matthewmafa on Jun 2, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreement

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Every year I’m optimistic about the Dodger’s chances. However in a year like this, my optimism can only lead the Dodgers to about 84 wins. It’s likely that that won’t be enough, and even if it is, there is a greater chance that the Dodgers fail to meet that greatest of optimism. So much can go wrong, so much already has. If the Dodgers could do it all over again 100 times, I’m sure they might make the postseason their fair share. However their chances have already been stymied by a poor first two months. Take off the blue tinted glasses and realize that there is a good chance that this should be a sell year for the Dodgers.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

boooooooooooooooooooooooring

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing your favorite type of season comes in the 07 variety

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

David Wells, Ramon Hernandez, and Luis Gonzalez all the way to 82 big ones

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

clear-eyed realist

I agree, but willing to see what happens in the next 6 weeks

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jun 2, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, your Gimenez comment cracked me up

I share the reason for (very cautious) optimism that they’re still in it. And of course know that alas even more could go wrong. But it’s hard to picture that. Now other teams in the division are having some o f the bad mojo the Dodgers had, so you never know.

Baseball’s a funny game. and this is an especially strange year.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Q asked in Rob Neyer's chat today
What are the odds Matt Kemp ends up Cincinnati? What would it take?
by GM at 11:19 AM

Neyer: I don’t really see it. It’s not like the Reds have a crying need. Better to find a bat for left field.

Is it just me or did he take that question way too seriously? On what planet is Matt Kemp getting traded?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

oh good we can hash this out again

booooooooooooooooooooring :-p

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is than inside joke? Or did you just not take your happy meds today? :-P

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah no I'm just tired of the constant nashing of teeth

about people wanting to trade for our stars and espn thinking it could happen

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If any team has the pieces it’s the Reds.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love it if Neyer just said
Joey Votto, next question

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs has had a trade series by position

So far Ethier, Kemp, Furcal, and Broxton have all been named

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

and

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s not just ESPN

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think you get my point

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all do

he wants to make trades, you don’t.

If you do not engage Table he can only talk to himself.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a Table all discussions rule in effect

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah seriously, I just thought it was funny and out of the blue...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

why not, we do it every year too.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not annoyed by people wanting to trade for our players

I’m tired of people complaining about ESPN and Fangraphs thinking we could trade our players. TL;DR ESPN and Fangraphs say things that make us sad. The End.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but then we sit here and wonder what it would take to get Prince Fielder, if a new owner will have room in the budget for Albert Pujols, etc etc. I don’t know that you specifically do it, but we are as much at fault here as they are.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Weisman hated silly trade talk. I enjoy trade talk, but I don’t enjoy uninformed trade talk. If I wanted that, I’d hang out with ignorant fans instead of this group. Sometimes my expectations of TBLA commentators is to high.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for irony.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp will not be traded, even I would never propose that.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rob Neyer is not Keith Law

he tends not to mock so freely

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

But the correct answer is:

The Dodgers are not trading their franchise player while they have as much a chance as the Reds do for the postseason.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reds are way better than the Dodgers

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better hitting, nothing close to our rotation. In case you didn’t notice Volquez is in the minors. Bailey is doing his 2nd DL stint, LeClure followed Baily to the DL, Chapman is suffering anxiety disorders and is in the minor leagues, Mike Leake is not very good.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reds run differential +14

Dodgers run differential -30

both have had trouble putting their best players on the field as you say.

One team is in a position to bolster their team at the trade deadline and another is not.

I’ll give the Reds the edge thank you.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the reds do not need Matt Kemp, for one thing.

They would need Chad Billingsley or something if we’re making up trades regarding Reds and Dodgers. ;-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, I’m just saying the Reds have a better postseason chance here, not related to the Kemp to Reds comment.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Reds have a tougher road with the Brewers and Cardinals then the Dodgers do.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed, it’s just that wildcard……

Also it could be argued that their chances at the division are lower due to them sharing the pie with AZ, CO, and SF while CIN has two other teams sharing the majority of the division chances pie.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wildcard – Florida / Atlanta / Cardinals / Brewers / Reds with one of those three representing the NL Central. They get two chances instead of just one, but given their pitching problems I don’t see how their chances are any better then ours. I love Bruce/Stubbs/Votto/ and even Philips to a degree but Rolen has fallen back to hurt production. If Bruce continues to go Baustista and Votto never slumps, yes, they are contenders, but I would not make them favorites.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reds would probably be interested in Kuroda and Furcal if such a transaction were possible

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not quibble that the Reds have been the much better team for the first 1/3 of the season. I question if that current ensemble of a rotation can continue to make that happen.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont ever take sides with anyone against the family again. Ever.

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You’re my brother and I love you.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm SMAAAAT!

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jun 2, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was told there would be no stats.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only reason the Dodgers have trouble putting their best player on the field is because starting pitchers need rest.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

you fail to heed your own advice

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with these type of discussions, I’m quite versed in the ability of every team in baseball.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like NoLander I tire of the of sell now mentality on June 3rd. By July 20th, I’ll get interested.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya know…..I really sorta agree with that.

I just might shut up about it for awhile.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah 29-28

is waaaay better

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

we’d be 2.5 out instead.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Table

Are you Jose Mesa? Just wondering.

by preacher roe on Jun 2, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

probably

I want that beard

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

stronger division or no, Reds have a better shot at the wildcard.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The correct answer is 100%

Since Kemp will surely be on the team plane that takes the Dodgers to play the Reds this weekend

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The correct answer is 100%

Since Kemp will surely be on the team plane that takes the Dodgers to play the Reds this weekend

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Love it!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Are we talking Plan Z?

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zombies?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just watched the Spongebob movie with my students. Plankton says he’s tried everything, plans A through Y. :)

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

he tried all those already!

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

noah (la)

I have seen you peg the Dodgers for a first round bat. Do you think Logan still goes away from the high school arm that he always takes in the first round?

Klaw (1:10 PM)

I’m hearing Robert Stephenson, RHP, there very strongly. And am hearing they can’t go over slot on any pick.

by Julio Nievas on Jun 2, 2011 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I just hope we can go slot. Where is the bonus money going to come from?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although, aren't the guys that people "hear very strongly" every year for the Dodgers, almost never the ones they pick?

They seem kind of secretive about it for the most part (as they should be).

Or do these rumors often have legs? Stephenson would kinda make sense though.

I will say that they were not expected to go over slot, nor expected to sign Lee or Gould, and they did. That said… the situation with McCourt at the moment is obviously even worse than it was last year.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

i remmeber dodgers had huge boners for kershaw.

but then again, everyone did soo…

by npurcell on Jun 2, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The “very strongly” is always hyperbole, and “people with the team” are always secondary scouts that get secondary information themselves. The top scouts and decision makers will never ever ever ever let you know who they want to draft, from the first pick to the 50th.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you watch that video Tommy posted earlier of Logan White discussing the draft? Looks to me that he’s checking out arms more than anything and which mid-90s pitcher to select from, since there are so many. That, and history, is why you have Law and BA guys say Stephenson may be our guy. He did say a lot of teams will strike on a premium mid-infielder if they are available, or something like that. If Javier Baez is not selected by #16, I would select him in a heartbeat.

by Julio Nievas on Jun 2, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The top scouts and decision makers will never ever ever ever let you know who they want to draft, from the first pick to the 50th.

Logan is just talking.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The draft is all about misdirection.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or is it?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heard this

Logan’s now looking hard at a short fat long reliever who’s a fifth-year college senior. He only throws one pitch (palm ball), his arm action is “robotic,” and he showed up late for his workout.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s signable!

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't post it

Eric did, i just referenced it.

gotta give credit where it’s due

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW, Robert Stephenson is legit. Wiry local kid who already throws 96 and is projected to throw harder in time. Has two off speed pitches that can be very good.

by Julio Nievas on Jun 2, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to Alhambra High School. But the one actually IN Alhambra, not Martinez, CA.

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

He’s all knees and elbows right now. so lanky..oozes projectability.

by npurcell on Jun 2, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe nobody’s made a Jekyll & Hyde crack yet. I miss Humma :(

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

we already got one of those

Jansen…referring to a J&H

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jun 2, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss Humma

I do too, believe me. Things will calm down in a couple of weeks.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get the DAMN KIDS in line, Humma.

We need you drunk and posting n game threads, STAT!

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

- Kids out of control
- Work out of control
- Bride out of control (and not in a good way)
- Computer out of control (it died on May 15; just getting back up and running now)
- Health out of control (sick as a dog)

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speakin of Nuthin but a G thang.

You need some tanqueray and chronic

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need a morphine drip and for the earth to stop spinning for six months so I can sleep.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just can’t wait to refer to this team as The Elevens for years to come.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 12:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Hey, you read to the bottom:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto

I really enjoyed this. Irrationally so.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was fun to write, honestly your prediction last week is what set it off. Originally I had planned a snarky reply to your prediction with a full on bet based on how close you came to my dismal prediction. Then I looked at the preview and said, fuck it, why can’t we do this.

Then we won four out of five.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I don’t know man, I just saw guys coming back off the DL all at the same time, saw the Rockies and Reds staffs we were going to face andgo optimistic. Though, I think it’s been 3 of 5, no? 15-4 was way high, but being over .500 isn’t out of the question and a .500 May would have put us about 2 games back.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was 4-1 on the homestand

Until last night.

The 19 games are the 6-game homestand, 10-game trip, then 3 at home with the Reds, right?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, so we’re 4-2? So I need us to go 11-2? Got this.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Injuries to De La Rosa & Posey changed everything for me.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remembering that the other teams in our division still sucked as much as i expected them to

and realizing we where about to get healthy bolstered my faith when it was at its lowest.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney starting to rake made me realize anything is possible.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of us had faith :-p

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even little Frankie made payroll!

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I so want to write a Pro Frankie bit, but so far have been unable to come up with an angle that I can get on board with

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

NLCS 2 years in a row!

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

email me

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re not the boss of me

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guerrieri

I really like his delivery, arm action and frame. I can see how he has helium right now. What are his bonus demands?

by npurcell on Jun 2, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

200/8

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guerrieri

Is the pitcher I want to have. Looks like a Logan guy. Clean delivery, throws a nice curveball. I read he’s very signable.

by Julio Nievas on Jun 2, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d take that guy too.

by BFDC on Jun 2, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

small balls?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or he has a tiny head.

by BFDC on Jun 2, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha dam… is he a football player too?

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

thas a big neck

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

he looks like a dick

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s an eight-neck. (Did I do that right?)

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is his name pronounced Guh-REAR-ee?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'll only watch it

if they don’t eat anything. I think the show became more that than anything else fear related.

also, i’m lying, i won’t watch it anyway.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d only watch the Chappelle’s Show version

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I smoke rocks Joe Rogan

by BFDC on Jun 2, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I've watched a total of 10 minutes of fear factor

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

and

they were eating something gross right?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dead People Fear Factor would be way too macabre. But probably a better show.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 2, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very amusing, rec.

by Table on Jun 2, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

so i will rec it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The entire paragraph about the pitching staff is awesome, especially about Billingsley.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have one question,

Why am I the only one to req this article so far?

by Grimjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’ing articles doesn’t do anything, at least not like comments or fan posts.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought I got a $ per rec?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll buy you a beer at the next meet up that we are both at.

by Grimjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

skirt and ArKansas only

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed out loud at the Billingsley thing and the Gimenez thing.

by Michael White on Jun 2, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed that paragraph as well

The part about bills was great, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT NFL Labor

supposedly they have now gone from “secret talks” to settlement discussion. This would be really good news. I have but one source, and that is this article http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/6/2/2203052/labor-wars-a-new-hope pointing to a houston sports radio

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

STL

Cardinals having to field a hobbled lineup today. No Holliday (DL) and no Berkman.
1. Ryan Theriot SS
2. Jon Jay RF
3. Albert Pujols 1B
4. Allen Craig LF
5. Yadier Molina C
6. Colby Rasmus CF
7. Tyler Greene 2B
8. Tony Cruz 3B
9. Lance Lynn P
- bet they wish they had Aaron Miles back. :)

by Xeifrank on Jun 2, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope you bet the over. Allen Craig is gonna hit 3 bombs.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have the "under’, which means the “over” will hit. I got the over in the Mets game earlier, which will offset my losings from the Giants game.

by Xeifrank on Jun 2, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mets are about to combust. Entertaining year to be anti-Cubs/Mets/[Dodgers?]

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Collins already did

at least at the press

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, there are going to be changes . . .

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I speak for America when I ask who the hell is Lance Lynn?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to look it up last night when punching in the lineups. Mid+ level prospect with sinking fastball. Seems like a perfect fit for Dave Duncan tutilage(sp?).

by Xeifrank on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So 14-9, 3.78 the rest of the way? :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

keith law says he is a future #4 or 5 starter

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

future?

the future is now good sir

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

“4th/5th starter, liked his brk ball in college, aggressive w/FB, competes”

never said future. My bad

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh was just joking that he was pitching in major league games

so the future has arrived

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amazing how Pujols legitimizes almost any lineup.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

French Open semis have two fantastic match-ups: Roger vs. Njokovic, Rafa vs. Andy Murray.

It’s always fun to root against Roger and it’s cool that Njok is better than him now.

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

And I also butchered his name: Djokovic

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

No sport does “best ever” in more rapid succession than tennis.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

See: every olympic sport.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Olympics also have the ‘best-ever corrupt process,’ narrowly edging FIFA.

@3_2count

by fbihop on Jun 2, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

but I mean, track and field has a new record holder every 2 years in nearly every event. Swimming went from Thorpe to Phelps to whoever in 6 years.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty certain no country will ever outdo China for its opening ceremony.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Unless you count the next time China hosts again.

by Xeifrank on Jun 2, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or the next time anyone hosts again.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I normally don’t care about such things, but they kinda went all out. The whole number thing was very cool, imo.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife and I started taking Mandarin right after the opening ceremony.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I ate Mandarin through the whole thing

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

except when they had the pretty girl lipsyncing the song that the not-so-pretty little girl was singing

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just remember the sideways walking guy (around the arena), the coordinated fireworks, and the CRAZY drum or something whatever that was actually people but looked like something else.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

we started that trend 80 years ago in the talkies

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

gonna

have to bring you along next time I go to China so you can get some appreciation. Place kicks ass to USA culture wise.

by Xeifrank on Jun 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

they only have thousands of years on us

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

culture is overrated

Give me a beach, bikinis, any kind of floating thingamajig, sand, abundant fresh water and you can have your culture.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will save my xenophobic ramblings for another time

but beijing was amongst my least favorite places to do business

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your xenophobe to Xei’s Sinophile. It all balances. TBLA has good feng shui.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, great semi-final. And Li Na in the womens.

by Xeifrank on Jun 2, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, Blake Hawksworth (pitching one inning) and Juan Uribe are both starting tonight in Rancho.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

We really got this

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

More proof that minor leaguers pay their dues…when the Quakes played in Lancaster last week, they drove from Rancho to Lancaster and back each day (~76 miles one way).

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmmmmmm, college.

Driving from Carson to San Diego on Fri, Sat and Sun was fun though.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuel for 3 days - $750.00

Hotels for 3 nights – 2 grips

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forget

Is this the grip = 1000 scale?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

grips are undertermined

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

This does not help me

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is torturing you

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

go to 21 and lewis and ask around

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just went to 21 and lewis, some brothers were shootin dice so I said lets do this…. a grip is alot of cash….i.e. Dam cuz, this shit cost a grip B…. but doesnt have an exact dollar value, get it??

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

G.Scott and I are now sad.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

u ever listen to that remix?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I have, I think anyways

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am sad, I haven’t found the remix. I did however, watch the Tim McCarver auto tune commercial on my lunch break.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that commercial last night for the first time, expecting nothing and instead got hilarity.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man that was great

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mccarver+autotune&aq=f

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully I remember when i get home. No youtube at work.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah just search regulate jammin remix

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

will do

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how often the phrase “Ooh, I like your size” works.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

around hos i would assume pretty often.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

What would get a better answer, from me on 21 & Lewis?

“Ohh I like your size”

OR

“Excuse me, sir, how much is a grip?”

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

grip

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

For instance, I have 18 whole dollars in my pocket right now. If I fold it over a few times, I could pass this off as a grip.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think grips also depend on how big your hands are

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of grips and hands… am i the only curious to watch ice loves coco?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

like measuring hands on a horse

or a mouthful on….

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to also complain that the game Big Bank Take Little Bank really tends to favor the rich man.

Though why would someone poor ever play that game?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know a guy that loves to play that game. but only on the days he wants to strange enough.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put the five on the outside and the 13 ones underneath. Respect.

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

a grip could also be a small amount of cash, if that small amount is too much for something. Like 5 bucks for a hot dog…. Dam, they want a grip of money up in hurr for a hot dog, shiet…. So its either carrying alot of cash, or something costing more then it should haha

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is a word

that will not end up in the HJ lexicon accept to use it in mocking manner when others least expect it

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

For

one bus?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so late to the party

I’ve been out of commission for… is it weeks now?…

But I just wanted to check in to say, after reading this article, NAOYAHN

Not All of You Are Hummas Now

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Nuthin' but a G Thang

Why would the girl that got her bikini top ripped at the BBQ show up to the party later that night?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

She must have liked someone’s size.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

cuz she a Ho, act like you dont know

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’s mad forties up in dat fridge son!

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Colder than Professor Parks’ fridge.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Colder than a boiiled hot dog as it watches all the grilled ones get taken first.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Dre, when is this Detox CD coming out already?

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

never. deal with it

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha dont say that man. We need Dre to restore glory to the rap game. It is him that will rebuild what he built in the first place.

by uschris0304 on Jun 2, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pirates up 7 – 0 after three, lose 9 – 8

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

The X-Man with four hits

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

stole two bases

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

[Scans box score for Paul, Hanrahan]

by kinbote on Jun 2, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unscathed

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Isringhausen with his first win since 2008

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Todd Van Poppel weeps

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I wish the Dodgers were facing Paul Wilson in Cincinnati this weekend.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top of the 1st inning May 6, 2005 in Cincy

HBP
HR
single
HR
walk
double
double
Wilson removed
sac bunt
ground out
walk
walk
double
strikeout

10 runs, 6 hits

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

who was the 3rd man of that trio (Wilson, Isringhousen) and ……….

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Pulsipher.

Generation K!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Poor Man’s Kirk Dressendorfer, Todd Van Poppel, Dave Zancanaro and Don Peters.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 2, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blast from the past via memory

Pack your grip
Taking you on a trip
Ain’t no seats
All we got dancing feets

Leave your worries behind (Leave your worries behind)
Cause rain, shine
Don’t mind
We’re riding on the Groove line tonight

by bhsportsguy on Jun 2, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

For G Scott and some TBLA points

Fun story up on Rotowire regarding successful pitchers right now who throw no harder then 87 MPH. The info on them does not start until 2/3 down. Successful being defined lightly.

11 pitchers made the list. For each pitcher on the list you get 10 TBLA Points

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Ted Lilly. Jamie Moyer.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

`

10 points for Lilly

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Lilly (86.6) – As his velocity has declined over the years, his control has gone in a positive direction. Lilly once had three consecutive years of 4.0-plus BB/9, but the last three seasons: 1.8, 2.0, 1.5.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doug Davis
Ted Lilly

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close enough to the Humma post, 10 points for Lilly, D Davis not on the list

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points
Shaun Marcum (86.6) – Marcum has the requisite control (2.2 BB/9) for this list, but what sets him apart is an 8.5 K/9. What sets Marcum apart is his command. He has a unique ability to get hitters to chase pitches outside the zone, and more often than the average pitcher, he’s successful in minimizing the damage when hitters do chase. The numbers bear this out, as hitters chase 32.7 percent of Marcum’s pitches outside the zone (league average: 29.1 percent), and they make contact in those cases just 56.2 percent of the time versus a league average of 67.9 percent.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Wakefield. RA Dickey.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

RA Dickey for 10 points

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He threw 91:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the ones I would have thought of are off the board.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zito

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope- probably because he's on the DL

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

/pout

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about my boy Nelson Figueroa?

(Note: I have no idea how fast Figueroa actually throws.)

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not on list

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hints

We are facing one this weekend
We faced one in the recent past
One used to be a big time prospect for one of our enemies but is now in the AL

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

One is on the most surprising team in baseball, one is on the sixth best organization in baseball

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pineda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jk

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bronson Arroyo
Jason Marquis

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points for Arroyo

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

he still exists?!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shut down your Angels just the other day.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

burn

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are they your angels when they do well

and my angels when they do bad?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

only when you diss a pitcher who owned them

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah I wasn't trying to be mean

I honestly just hadn’t heard about him in a long long long time.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not on list

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It did say “successful”

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other then Marcum, Nolasco is more successful then anyone on this list

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume you mean this year specifically

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

the final four are the hardest throwers starting out at 87.2 – 87.4.

Two are retreads working in a big fruited city
one came from that city but now does his work on the west coast

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Colon?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Issringuasen?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

just starters

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points

3 left, you guys doing great work

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHRIS YOUNG!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the right track

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

AL Western team not in California:)
NL Eastern Team
AL Central Team

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jair Jurrjens?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought he did too

but both baseball tonight and MLBN were talking about how he was getting by without a plus fastball.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

bastions of knowledge

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

they're not

complete morons, well not always :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s NL Pitcher of the Month Jair Jurrjens to you pal

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clayton got Kershawed

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just noticed that Jeremy Hellickson got both AL pitcher of the month and AL rookie of the month.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is ridic, Pineda owned.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hellickson: 4-1, 1.36 ERA
Pineda: 2-1, 2.81 ERA

Though Pineda had better peripherals (36/7 K/BB compared to 23/15 for JH)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jurrjens was 5-1 with a 1.65 ERA in 43 2/3 IP. 2nd in NL in both ERA and IP for the month.

Lincecum had a 1.47 ERA, but in 36 2/3 IP. Not sure who had more innings, probably Halladay

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, 45 innings for Roy H. A sky-high 3.00 ERA though. Phillies might be done.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My nephew went to high school with him (Vargas, not Silverwidow)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL at the last part

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s had a heck of a comeback after being released. The Mariners have quietly put together a rotation. Why if they had Andre Ethier they might be real contenders.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 points – he throws the lowest at 83.7

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The final one

Dave Bush?

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Jun 2, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

research supporting the hypothesis that long toss is bad

http://topvelocity.net/the-proper-research-on-why-long-toss-is-bad-for-your-arm/

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I can’t imagine throwing a ball 300 feet, but I know it’s done as part of a long toss training program. Anything passed 120’ feet is pointless, anything passed 180’, per Dr. Andrews, is dumb.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just perusing the Dodgers' roster

After tonight, 23 of the 40 players who have played a game for the Dodgers this season have also played at least one game in the minors this season (12 of 21 position players, 11 of 19 pitchers).

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Including or not including the rehab stints?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

including

Without the rehab stints, it is 6 position players and 7 pitchers who have also played in the minors this season.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

impressive, or something, either way.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great article

Whether you not you agree with Phil’s take here, there is no doubting that the writing here is superb. There were several lines that absolutely slayed me. Too many to quote. You know what they are anyway.

Also, I can’t think of a better LAD CF/RF combo than Matt/Andre either. In a somewhat different way: Brett Butler and Darryl in his first year here. Butler and Mondesi one season three years later. In ’74, the Toy Cannon and Willie Crawford (130 OPS+) w/ some Joe Ferguson (132 OPS+) was pretty darn good. But those are single years. Andre/Matt are giving us several.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, those two will be linked for some time, especially when both sign extensions before next season.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have been driving the “trade Andre” bandwagon because I am under the assumption that he wants and can get Jayson Werth money.

If it is a given that Andre will sign an extension this offseason, I think then it is also a given that it is for a small single-digit number of years. And if that is the case, then I wholly support keeping him around.

Andre is older than the rest of the crowd and I don’t want to pay for three years of sub-par performance when he is in his late 30s, but if we can see him through his (say) age 34 season and then say sayonara…. well, sure!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna start taking a hatched to that wagon

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to keep him around

since he is going to lead us to championships in 2013 and 2014. Who the fuck cares about 2020?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You will, in 2020.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

we’re talking about a baseball team though, not an economy

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll just think

man, I would love to have that 18 mil back, but 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS BITCHES!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they win even one championship in the next few years I don’t care if they field a little league team in 2020

by Michael White on Jun 2, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said that in 1985

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t care about 2020 way back in 1985? Boy, that is thinking ahead.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the world was ending in 1999

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two thousand, zero zero, party over. Whoops, out of time.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, then this should all be gravy for you. The world didn’t end! Baseball goes on! How do you muster up the emotion to care about who wins or loses?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

;-) Belated rec. (I just got here.)

by berkowit28 on Jun 2, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks David

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it too late

for me to start being a dick today? Or to call people dicks?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

What did Eric do now?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sorry :(

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Philip Rivers here?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is more fun to have a dick

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah I don’t get how you guys manage with those things

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s awfully nice not to have to sit down every time you use a public restroom.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

awful nice to never have to worry about having a boner on display in public

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a problem in 8th grade.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what notebooks (and record albums when saying goodnight to the girlfriends parents) were for.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jun 2, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

OTOH, I can wear white pants any day of the month.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

CBYWT

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

cock block your white thong?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s never appropriate to wear white pants. Not since Saturday Night Fever.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

My fourth grade yearbook begs to differ

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wrote “can”. Whether or not I should is a different issue.

I should dig up some pictures of me from the pastels and white coat Miami Vice look days.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

About 65% of our readers are wondering why you would dress up like Jamie Foxx and/or Colin Farrell.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out

why colin farrel needed that mustache for the movie. Not his best look.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monty Python had a song about that.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 2, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

penis.

Wait, that doesn’t work so well when a guy starts it.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the inflection and what follows it.

by KellyStephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the infection

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was so great :) Very well done

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 2, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, this line had me laugh very hard
The Giants thought they had one in DeRosa but not surprisingly he ended up with a limp wrist in San Francisco.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 2, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Per rotowire:
Yhency Brazoban (P) 6/2/2011
Brazoban has been released from Triple-A Round Rock, reports Jeff Wilson of the Ft. Worth Star-Tribune. Brazoban requested his release because he was pitching well (10.6 K/9, 3.42 ERA), yet the Rangers were not adding him to their 40-man roster. He may be able to see some time in a major league bullpen with another ballclub.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Wonder if MLB doesn’t work like the NBA or NFL where you’re allowed to seek a trade while under employment. Why would he ask for a release without an offer lined up?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much reached a dead end there. Release = he controls where he goes, at least more than if he had been traded.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if he isn’t getting added to the 40 man, at least ask the Rangers if he can seek a new deal with a new team while pitching for them. Dunno though, kind of sets an awkward precident.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Happens all the time.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s kinda what I figured.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

let’s do it

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Rotowire
Vicente Padilla (P) LA 6/2/2011
Padilla (forearm) needed just 13 pitches to get through two scoreless innings for High-A Rancho Cucamonga on Thursday, the Dodgers’ official site reports. Padilla is on track to be activated Friday and while manager Don Mattingly wouldn’t commit to using him as a closer, don’t be surprised if that ends up being the case. “We haven’t really talked about it too much,” Mattingly said. “But with him we’re not afraid to put him in that role.” Mattingly also noted that for now he plans to pick a closer based on matchups, but admits that he’d like to eventually find one hurler to turn to regularly in save situations. “I’d like to have that guy in the ninth where we say this is our guy in the ninth, this is where we go and we work to him,” Mattingly said. “We haven’t been able to put that scenario together, so we’ve been really flexible as to how we’re doing it, but I’d still like to have that guy.”

Did he really pitch today or is that a mistake?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

He pitched Sunday and Tuesday

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I misread the comment

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

I’m still confused. Doesn’t the first sentence in your quote say he threw 13 pitches on “Thursday”? Which is today? They must have meant Tuesday; the Quakes play tonight.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must have.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs is clocking Rubby’s avg FB as 96.3 and also registering his #2 offering as a splitter at 87.3. I guess it’s harder than your run-of-the-mill changeup.

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Phil, I love your bullpen nickname

“The Playpen”

Hopefully these guys can keep that as a badge of honor and not something negative. Go Playpen!

by LA Taco on Jun 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

never were

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

the506 tells me no

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

506 doesn’t have this week’s map up yet

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

aw man…

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Friday – Prime Ticket, 4pm
Saturday – Fox, 1pm
Sunday – KCAL, 10am

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

My head is spinning

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all agree that this guy is useless, right?

by Michael White on Jun 2, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

after one inning?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t regfairfield insinuate that his pitches were so flat he could be used as a level? The Level.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was kidding.

It was funny, in the game thread, there seemed to be quite a few comments like this where I couldn’t tell if they were serious.

by Michael White on Jun 2, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was serious

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t namesake’s get a break?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was never high on Delwyn Young.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have rooted harder for Eric Stults if the Dodgers went little league style with first names and last initial on back of the jersey

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I should be a big Craig Shipley supporter?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

neg

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

for me

only LA City HS players get a break

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Dodgers don’t draft Ryan Garvey because fuck Palm Desert High School

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Darryl?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

#53
Eric
Eddie
Jon
Garrett
Trayvon?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah blah we’ll see

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

don’t take it personal

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t, I pictured you doing your best Ke$ha impression.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tito

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Willie Crawford!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fremont

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB players I played against from LA City schools — Jon Leicester (Pali), Doug Slaten (Venice), Token Old-Friend Brian Barton (Westchester).

Other Western Leaguers off the top of my head — Vic Darensbourg (Westchester), Kevin Millar (Uni), Roy Smalley (Westchester)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 2, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other Valley dudes

Randy Wolf, Conor Jackson – El Camino Real
Bret Saberhagen – Cleveland
Robin Yount, Rick Auerbach, Gabe Kaplar – Taft
Dwight Evans – Chatsworth (from when it was still mostly orange groves and horse ranches)
Ryan Braun – Granada Hills
Doug DeCinces – Monroe
Leo Rosales – Reseda (not that Reseda boy!)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

In addition to Garland and GA, Kennedy has had a few others. Terrmel Sledge is the only other one I can think of offhand. Kameron Loe went to Granada…

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 2, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think GMJ is also Granada. Couldn’t think of anyone from Birmingham.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Likely better than The German. Could be a useful spare part for a few years.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone played Undead Nightmare, the Red Dead Redemption addon?

I just was finally able to download it last night and i’m thrilled with how fun it is :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 2, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Mariners have three left fielders

hitting below .170, not even including the released Milton. Roto owners might want to jump early on Mike Carp who has started playing LF in AAA.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

He needs to get into an outfield with Mike Trout.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Salmon would just unretire....

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

shit happens.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

but when it does, it will be Rubby cleaning up after the horses.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Logan White is looking for HS power arms

Link

“For us, there isn’t a hitter at 16 that we can insert into left field or the lineup. This Draft is thin at catcher and thin up the middle infield, two areas I’d like to put in the organization.” — White

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

This was written in 200x :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s part of the Logan White Mad Libs press cheat sheet.

For us, there isn’t a hitter at ____(number) that we can insert into ______(offensive problem position) or the lineup. This draft is thin at _(position) and thin at _(position), two areas I’d like to put in the organization.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

For us, there isn’t a hitter at 69 that we can insert intocyour vagina or the lineup. This draft is thin at tongue and thin at cock, two areas I’d like to put in the organization.

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frustrated?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the way we played Mad Libs back in the day

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Mad Libs went out when I was like, 9, so we used hilarious words like ‘smelly’ and ‘gross’.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

was implied within smell and gross.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

toilet was always good.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was expecting 69 as a position.

BTW, you are younger than my youngest brother. By about six months, so you’re still old.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

that means you are dirt

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

more points for “reverse cowgirl” though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sun continues to be hot.

Also, I hope we never ever draft another catcher. Ever.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take Lasorda’s great-godson in a late round.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outlier.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take Yeager, Fergy, Scoscia.

What is up with the catcher hate.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too easy to convert an infielder or outfielder with a strong bat and teach them the position without them having all those miles on their knees from high school or college.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet the major leagues are filled with drafted catchers, not converted catchers. Logan hit paydirt with Martin and Santana, struck out with May and Delmonico. The rest of the world drafts catchers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I know this. I just find it more feasible to draft the bat and adjust their position accordingly.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spoken like a pitcher. :-P

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, you suck at hitting, can you catch?
You drop bombs, can you play first?
You’re kinda fast, how’s your arm? Can you play center?

Defense is the easiest thing to teach in this game. It’s 100% repetition.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should look harder then. Fire this guy already….

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

he only works with what his scouts tell him. If he thinks the draft is thin at catcher, and it’s not, it’s because he doesn’t have enough scouts or not enough good scouts, not because he’s bad at his job.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of his job is to hire good scouts, no? A manager is judges by the performance of his staff.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Budgets are pains in the ass.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of this is probably misinformation.

In 2002, he said he was looking to draft a college hitter close to the big leagues in the first round.

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was talking about the A’s drafting a college hitter who was close to the majors for us.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roy Halladay has averaged 7.60 innings in his 45 starts in the National League.

In a typical start, his bullpen only needs to get ~ four outs.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

OK, I have decided to go to Rancho tonight to see the Quakes play. First time at the Epicenter.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this just a bad pun or is Rancho known for quakes?

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No more or less than the rest of SoCal.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you live in Southern California?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have experience roughly two major quakes in my lifetime.

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of

When they moved to Rancho, from the team website:

Fans were asked to select a name for the new team and on September 30, 1992, it was announced that six people had suggested the name “Quakes,” which was chosen by the teams’ management as the winner from over 200 different choices. A fitting name it is indeed, as the ballpark sits adjacent to a number of earthquake fault lines.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are likely the closest Cal League team to the San Andreas Fault as well, narrowly beating Inland Empire (San Bernardino) and High Desert (Adelanto)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

San Jose should be close to the northern segment.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the heads up

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you just find out Hawk’s sister is going to be in attendance?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Was tired most of the day, just decided 30 minutes or so ago, emailed to get a credential, and I’m in.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask Lemmermann what his most impressive tool is:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 2, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I probably won’t get there early enough for any pregame stuff. Maybe I’ll get to talk to Hawksworth or Uribe when they come out of the game though.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

look for juan after the game

with the meet juan sign taped to a tree

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 2, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should go to the nearby Spaghetti Factory for dinner just to spite Silverwidow :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 2, 2011 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

No good food has ever come from a place that ends in “factory” or “depository”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 2, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.yelp.com/biz/chinatown-ice-cream-factory-new-york

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna say

Kelly’s has to be at least not bad. I mean, fudge!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please don’t order spaghetti

by silverwidow on Jun 2, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Daily double if they serve Dr. Pepper.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question

team color is black, but we can wear any hat we want. Do I get a black Dodgers hat, or do I stick with the blue one, or do I go sport like, a Pirates hat?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

this one of course

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1869697&cp=1452363.1452860.1168847

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That pic is too small for the awesomeness of the pillbox hats.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This hat

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somewhat more seriously

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its a baseball game not a track meet

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the clear front-runner must be

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah thats totally the best idea.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

How did I not think about that hat? I OWN that hat!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you rocked it!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you get it online? I’m interested in buying one so I was just wondering.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I recall correctly I called them and ordered it

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also considered just showing up like

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But your arms don’t look like that…

I MEAN WHAT

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 2, 2011 6:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m sure you would, but what cap should G wear?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look Samantha Semantics, the Orioles are black and offend no ones sensibilities, except for maybe Yankee fans

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought the saaaaame thing.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also - Team nae: California Ironheads

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Craig Heyward was black, but he’d make for an uncomfortable hat.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 2, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recommend wearing a hat you don’t care about ruining with sweat

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 2, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no such thing as ruining a hat with sweat!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am just saying if you want to wear it other places. My River Cats hat is trashed from softball

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 2, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take the opposite of Phil's approach..

After the Dodgers get done in Philly next week…they’ll be 9 games out of 1st place.
At that time, sell everything

The greatness of Kershaw, Kemp
The goodness of Billingsley, Kuroda, Blake

isnt enough to overcome the mediocre or bad of the other 20 guys.
At least…not 84 wins worth (what it’d take to win the division).

by Joey Joe on Jun 2, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m in no way shocked you would bring down the entire thread.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

it’s an off day, baseball doesn’t exist once the work day is almost over.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

you could say that for most threads here

people at work = comments
people not at work = commenting? meh i got things to do

by Joey Joe on Jun 2, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I more meant, it’s a positive thread, get out of here with your negative nancy bs.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 2, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't feed the troll

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am going to say it once more
before I get up and roar

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 2, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

There needs to be a movie about G. Scott .vs. Joey Joe.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be like the first five minutes of the social network for two hours. With less writing on glass.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 2, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

hats are neat-o, I think the Isotope hat might be a good idea. Do the Quakes had a black hat?

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the kind of hat you wear when robing your local five and dime

by Josie Becker on Jun 2, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you want to rep your local team while you do that?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 2, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are there any Five and Dime stores left?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 2, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They had a dark one when they were the Angels team. Idk about now. I would totally go ‘Topes. In fact if I can find somewhere that they aren’t 32 dollars I am going to purchase one now.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can't

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was about to type eBay but… Eww. But, thanks at least for letting me know I have no choice.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

I mean you can try its been a year since I looked, but I couldn’t find anywhere other then directly from the team.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a link for one for 20 by someone but it said Replica so I think I’m just gonna say screw it and go for the normal hat…

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shipping was not cheap when I got mine

it was like 8-10 bucks for shipping

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they ship it in a fucking microwave?? Its just to SoCal… Ugh. $40 for a baseball hat… Its worth it.. Kinda.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could just drive down to the stadium and buy it for you and send it. I bet that would be cheaper.

@3_2count

by fbihop on Jun 2, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I usually go to a game or two every Isotopes homestand. Wore the Isotopes hat out today, actually.

@3_2count

by fbihop on Jun 2, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is very cool. I live right bewteen Rancho and IE so its very easy for me to see Hi-A.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 2, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck positive thoughts

Let’s just forfeit.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 2, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time

to set my watch.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

rasmus with the triple to put the cards up on the Gnats 3-0

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Yah Sanchez having control problems

Get into that pen, Cards! Tire em out for the Rockies series and then those teams can beat each other up.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 walks in 3.2

5 if you include this IBB

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants announcers sound exasperated with him

heard a little bit of his last game, on the radio, too, and it was the same thing about him not giving up many hits but not controlling it well and walking too many guys. Today he walked the pitcher which made Dave Flemming irritable. Hee hee.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants have a weird split...35th road game tonight vs 21 home games so far

Last year, their home record was 49-32
Only 43-38 on road.

Not a huge split, but the Cards announcers they would probably make a run due to so having so many home games coming up.

by Joey Joe on Jun 2, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course

of course now sanchez has settled down and just scored tying run so I should shut up. Cards have rookie pitcher goimg.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 2, 2011 6:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

he has always had control problems

its his achillees heel

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice job, Phil.

I just got home and read your article. I believe you’re right. We have had almost everything bad happen that could possibly happen. It’s all gonna be downill sledding from here on! Everybody seems happy to be here, and the offense has shown signs of the production that we expected, although, you are correct, it has come from some weird places.
I’m looking forward to the next third of the season. I think there will be some major changes in the standings of the NL West.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 2, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Wahhhhhambulence called for Sabean

Sabean rips Cousins and I don’t buy the BS that he would have called out his own players. Had this been a Russell Martin/Pablo Sandoval collision it would have been just a hard nosed baseball play.

by arbfuldodger on Jun 2, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Sabean is 100% right.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 2, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Malicious?

doing something within the rules to try to win the game isn’t malicious. If he did it with the sole intintion of injuring posey, THATS malicious.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 2, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My cousin is a Giants Fan

But her boyfriend is a Dodgers fan, so between the two of us, we should be able to solve this problem. Also, I showed her a picture of Matt Kemp. Should be a breeze.

Great post, Phil.

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 2, 2011 6:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

So you like her boyfriend more….

by keithc13 on Jun 2, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t met him yet. She apparently agreed to learn about the Dodgers in exchange for him seeing the Justin Bieber movie.

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 2, 2011 7:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tough trade. Your cousin must be pretty young.

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by David Young on Jun 2, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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