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Michael Morse leads the streaking Nationals with homers galore as he has hit eight in the last 28 days  (Photo by Denis Poroy/Getty Images)


The hottest team is housed in our nations capitol. The Nationals are 9 - 1over their last ten games and have evened their season record at 37 - 37. Their three best offensive players could not be guessed by 99% of baseball fans.  Michael Morse (145), Laynce Nix  (126 OPS+) and Danny Espinosa  (116 OPS+).  Ryan Zimmerman only has 73 plate appearances so I did not include him. Overall the Nationals have six players with over 100 plate appearances with an OPS+ over 100. Ryan Zimmerman will soon make it eight.  Michael Morse might be the best kept secret in baseball. Some TBLA members campaigned for him to become a Dodger and solve our LF problem this past winter. If only that had come to pass.

The Brewers put a move on the Cardinals even before Pujols got hurt. With the big three of Zack Greinke, Yovani Gallardo, and Shaun Marcum doing good work, they are a team to be reckoned with. Some may look at Greinke's 4.77 ERA and think he is struggling but his xFIP of 1.84 along with a 11.93 K/Rate supplemented by a 1.34 BB/rate tell us the real story. Grienke is dealing and the Brewers are surging. Prince Fielder has the second best wRC in June at .266 trailing only Paul Konerko who has an unreal .305.

Best hitting SS in baseball in June is JJ Hardy who has slugged seven home runs to augment his .730 slug%.

Phillies continue to dominate pitching. Doc is the overall best pitcher in baseball so far this year, but his teammates Cole Hamels and Cliff Lee have been the 1st / 3rd best pitchers in June.

Michael Pineda and Alexi Ogando continue to fight for ROY pitching honors, with Zach Britton tagging along in case they struggle.

The Giants have FOUR starting pitchers in the top 11 of WAR. That is even after Bumgarner gave up eight earned runs in one inning this week.

Jered Weaver is number one in WAR in the AL. Kershaw is number three in the NL. They meet this Sunday. Might want to bet the under.

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That Kershaw – Weaver game is gonna be fun.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I have tickets to Sunday’s game and I can’t use them. Parking, too. All free to a good home but you have to pick them up from me. I live near Rosecrans & Aviation and I work near Overland & Washington.

Email me at todd dot kaplan at gmail dot com.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

how many?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three tickets.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are claimed, by Young Jocelyn.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool

was about to say, they weren’t enough. I have many people who want to go to a game.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the only question left is, who is giving Jocelyn a ride

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

to the game

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or to pick up the tickets, even.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

odd

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

mom’s car to pick up the tickets, my dad, brother and I are going to go to the game together. The only reason I needed a ride before is cause we need three tickets or we don’t go and I just have two vouchers (family thing)

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I got someone to switch with me for Sunday so I can go :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 23, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

James Loney now has an OPS+ of 93

whats average for first baseman this year?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t believe this

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s true.

That’s MLB but NL is also 124.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the MLB list

Split PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS tOPS+
as C 8896 7919 854 1920 386 21 222 952 793 1671 .242 .315 .381 .696 96
as 1B 9577 8413 1109 2265 463 20 335 1225 987 1733 .269 .349 .448 .797 124
as 2B 9611 8662 1077 2175 417 57 170 921 702 1516 .251 .312 .371 .683 93
as 3B 9286 8334 961 2048 458 26 175 1003 752 1578 .246 .312 .370 .682 93
as SS 9573 8655 1100 2263 423 71 137 862 674 1380 .261 .317 .374 .692 95
as LF 9547 8576 1074 2175 428 44 233 997 783 1848 .254 .320 .395 .715 101
as CF 9824 8809 1288 2307 458 95 216 925 803 1864 .262 .327 .409 .736 107
as RF 9618 8514 1109 2271 444 47 295 1123 907 1736 .267 .341 .434 .775 118
as DH 4430 3920 459 1019 213 10 118 519 443 790 .260 .338 .410 .748 111
as P 2773 2382 118 315 56 1 12 123 90 926 .132 .165 .172 .336 -4
as PH 2309 2034 225 451 65 4 39 253 215 567 .222 .299 .315 .614 74
as PH for DH 33 29 3 5 2 0 0 5 4 9 .172 .273 .241 .514 47
Other 9 8 1 4 0 0 0 4 1 1 .500 .556 .500 1.056 202
as Infield 46943 41983 5101 10671 2147 195 1039 4963 3908 7878 .254 .321 .389 .710 100
as Outfield 28989 25899 3471 6753 1330 186 744 3045 2493 5448 .261 .329 .413 .742 109
at Def. Pos. 37904 34045 4319 8665 1684 244 745 3660 2972 6431 .255 .318 .384 .702 98
at Off. Pos. 38028 33837 4253 8759 1793 137 1038 4348 3429 6895 .259 .331 .412 .743 109

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 6/23/2011.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I need to bookmark this list

so I can bring it out every time someone complains that we aren’t getting enough power from 3b(not that that happens that much). 3bman are hitting worse then shortstops.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

and 2bman

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder what the .736 in CF becomes if you take out Kemp’s 1.020

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worth noting, at 3B

The Dodgers have 6 home runs out of 3B. There are a number of teams worse:

Florida, Detroit have 2.
White Sox and Mariners have 1.

Seattle 3B are hitting .186/.236/.249

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

clearly the solution is to make Small Game James our third baseman

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't have time

to teach him to throw right handed :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

clearly the solution is to dump No Game James

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

suppose it could be a pinch runner that bats around and hits as well.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe you both are correct.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

there can only be one

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the PR turned hitter is one way. I’m not sure if you are still considered a PH if you get to the plate twice.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are a pinch hitter until you’re assigned a defensive position

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

You are a pinch hitter once, when you are pinch hitting for someone. If you happen to bat again during the inning, that falls under “other”

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It happened against the Dodgers earlier this year

when the Braves tacked on 8 runs in the 9th against Jancoso. Eric Hinske pinch hit for Jonny Venters and homered, then later in the inning batted again, as “other,” and singled.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

From that night’s recap:

Braves pinch hitters were 0-for-25 on the season (with no walks and eight strikeouts) before collecting two hits in two at-bats tonight. Brooks Conrad singled under James Loney’s glove in the top of the seventh inning off of Blake Hawksworth, and Eric Hinske put the game away with a two-run home run off Jansen and a single off Troncoso in the ninth inning. That’s right, Hinske had two plate appearances in the ninth inning, as the Braves batted around. Only the first PA counts as a pinch hit appearance though; the second PA for Hinske in the ninth was the rare “no position” PA

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s still weird.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So are pitchers, and left-handers, but what are you gonna do?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figure it this way: 7% of the population is left-handed. In science, that’s a mutation. Lefties are mutants.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I once wrote a book called Hell is reserved for Left Handers

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. They’re mutants. They make baseballs move in unnatural ways even though they throw it the same way, and they make eating together at a table difficult.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

But certain righty’s make baseballs do crazy shit. Now I’m not standing up for the uncommon man here…..

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always put them at the left end of the table so their sinister elbow isn’t sticking toward anyone. There’s one of those spots on each side of the table, so that is sufficient. You’d never seat more than two LHs at one table anyway.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’d never seat more than two LHs at one table anyway.

Haha

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

What TBLA regulars are lefties?

I’d bet on silverwidow.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Y’all can go to hell.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually knew this, but wasn’t going to say anything. Much like Lilly not ending all our winning streaks with day starts, this was too funny not to let go.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So did David but he forgot the wiffle ball game

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can picture Andrew batting, but I don’t remember him throwing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll go with Elbertfan

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I picked up hockey and golf lefty but I switched early on. I can play hockey ambidextrously. I can write with both, but its shit either way.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Duece is left-handed.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

thought process: italics are my thoughts

“I’ll go with ElbertFan”
Leftyism: As contagious as AIDS. RIP Duece“I bet Duece is left-handed”

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

be careful, if you get too close, you’ll catch it too.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

half my family is lefty

I don’t trust them…

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

My old man

is a lefty.

An old girlfriend was a a lefty. She french-kissed in the wrong direction.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

my older brother is right-handed

but bats lefty

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only California homes that have basements are ones with more than one left-hander. While one sits at the table, the other is forced to remain downstairs, as the rest of the family throws scraps down the staircase for nourishment.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which reminds me, I eat with either as well.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brother hits, kicks and throws right handed, but eats and writes left handed. What does this mean?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 23, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It means

Your dad cost him a lucrative career as a LHP.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was 14%? Lefties are sinister anyway.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Erroneous.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

And righties are Dexter. [puts away murder implements]

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The final arbiter of all knowledge*, Wikipedia, says 10%, so you two can meet in the middle.

*Hat tip to Andrew Shimmin, wherever he and his pens are.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read “pens” as “penis”. my b

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 23, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

One-track mind.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had the same thought, what does that mean?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same as me or same as her?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

as her

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recommend for self-reflection for you then and make sure you know who you really are.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

heterochromia is my favorite mutation, followed by auburn hair

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You love you some Max Scherzer.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a lefty

tho my older son is. he’s all kind of cool.

by kinbote on Jun 23, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Average OPS for 1B with 200+ AB = .809

James Loney in 286ABs has a .675

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

In his last 197 PA

he has an OPS over 800. It dips under 800 when you go to 202

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t ask for the average OPS for all first basemen since James Loney started doing better :)

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just excited to see him being average over his last 200 PAs

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. MLB avg OPS for 1B last season was .800, so .809 is a bit higher.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Loney goes

5 for 5, with four singles, one double and two walks in his next 7 plate appearances he will be at replacement level (hitting) for first basemen (wOBA style). A far cry from where he was a month or so ago.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was thinking the numbers above might be skewed by a couple otherworldly performances

although Pujols is not exactly Pujols this year, so maybe median is more interesting than the average, but the median OPS team performance at 1B is about .789, so that actually agrees with the idea that getting an .800 OPS is slightly better than average. The sOPS+ column bears that out too. Loney’s start was so horrendous that it still really drags down the Dodgers’ season-to-date performance at 1B.

Rk 		BA 	OBP 	SLG 	OPS 	tOPS+ 	sOPS+
1 MIL .297 .418 .594 1.012 173 152
2 CIN .313 .434 .491 .926 154 134
3 COL .293 .370 .527 .896 143 124
4 FLA .298 .371 .491 .862 148 116
5 PHI .259 .353 .500 .853 142 113
6 STL .271 .347 .475 .822 117 106
7 NYM .280 .350 .444 .794 124 99
8 CHC .227 .344 .438 .783 120 96
9 HOU .287 .374 .409 .782 126 98
10 WSN .240 .330 .441 .771 126 93
11 ATL .267 .335 .413 .748 116 88
12 ARI .250 .321 .406 .727 97 83
13 SFG .243 .311 .380 .691 108 74
14 PIT .229 .310 .356 .666 101 68
15 LAD .265 .311 .340 .651 88 65
16 SDP .216 .283 .348 .631 97 59
TOT .265 .349 .440 .789 124 98

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to do that for the same reason

thanks for the work.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morse
Some TBLA members campaigned for him to become a Dodger and solve our LF problem this past winter. If only that had come to pass.

I was one of those guys, but I got the idea from MSTI. Man that would have been awesoke

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of Morse, another Mariner who was given away. He also was suspended for Roid use.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Some may look at Greinke’s 4.77 ERA and think he is struggling but his xFIP of 1.84 along with a 11.93 K/Rate supplemented by a 1.34 BB/rate tell us the real story.

Chad Billingsley agrees

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

When Chad can sniff those peripherals, I’ll agree.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy your selectivity.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come now, Chad has an xFIP almost two runs higher then Zack.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying Chad = Zack. I am wondering why you choose to use xFIP when it suits your needs and ignore it when it doesn’t.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

xFIP is a flawed stat that people use to suit their purposes. Duh.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

they should use ERA and ERA+

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah.

I don’t think it says much when you use x-FIP for a flyball prone pitcher like Lilly.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

but Lilly wasn’t in the conversation.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

was yesterday, which is why you decided to mock me. =P

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s like, the point of xFIP.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Erroneous.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

We shouldn’t hold giving up home runs against the pitchers.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not really. It’s saying that home run rate is tied to fly ball rate.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

dammit, forgot the :) again

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering that a x-fip treats a pop up as a fly ball, I’m still skeptical.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well that part is dumb and the original stuff on xFIP specifically said popups don’t count against you, so I don’t know why Fangraphs does it that way.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I generally don’t agree with the premise of xFIP.

Homers are the mistakes of pitchers and shouldn’t be normalized as if not giving up home runs aren’t a skill.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actual data disagrees, this isn’t something someone just pulled out of their ass.

Second it’s saying the skill is keeping the ball on the ground, not keeping it from going over the fence.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, didn’t think of it like that. Hmm, okay.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

tERA also assumes pitchers can control line drives, which is certainly up for debate.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still better than xFIP

I’d sooner believe that a pitcher can control line drives than that a pop-up to SS can go over the LCF wall.

by Taylor Maricle on Jun 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

consider that a line drive is a hard hit ball that should count against the pitcher, and that a fly out to SS is about 1/8 of an inch away from being over the LCF wall, and you start thinking about it differently.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

If xFIP only counted outfield fly balls how would you feel.

Last thing I saw there was actually a negative R value when you tried to find a correlation year to year in line drive percentage, which explains why BABIP is so unstable. I can’t use tERA because of that.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're just trolling me

haha

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 23, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t think that is fair. I’m unhappy with Chad in June and his xFIP in June is 4.38.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Besides that, it’s bloody hot in Chad in June. April is pleasant though.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

His K/9 rate is down to 7.11 and his walk rate is up to 4.74. That is not getting it done.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Telling you

next start: like a boss

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure the BABIP is out of this world, but that kills when you have a walk rate that high.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve also used xFIP in every single team preview I’ve ever done. Sorry if you have been offended that I’m not a big fan of Chad’s at the moment.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

but I think your comment was bullshit.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t like this comment of yours yesterday, regarding Billingsley:

peripherally he’s awesome and that is all we really care about as long as we are talking about our own pitchers.

That’s what I objected to. Yes, Billingsley has struggled in June. That is plain to see. Yes, his start Tuesday was an improvement over his previous three. That’s all.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was an improvement, he could have rolled the ball to the plate and it would have been an improvement. As I said I only watched two innings and was unimpressed.

Anyway in the comments I think I can be more subjective and more of a fan then in my columns. Bringing up something I say in comments when I make a few hundred a day to compare to a column, hell you could do that all day and make me look stupid.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bringing up something I say in comments … to compare to a column

Wasn’t this part of Molly’s argument? ;-)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did no comparing, I was just commenting on the comments, but the point is valid.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just thought it might be a touch ironic.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

As soon as someone writes xFIP or the like, my eyes glass over and I hit the ‘Z’ key.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 23, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enjoyed Grant's article about Broxton

let’s not forget just how dominant this man was.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/6/23/2238813/jonathan-broxton-injury-los-angeles-dodgers-news

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

this cracked me up
Don’t get me wrong — I’m a Giants fan, and I’d prefer that Mattingly sent home the entire starting rotation and said, “Broxy, I’m going to have you start every day to build up your arm strength for the rest of the year. Also, you’re hitting cleanup.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

saw that

i was at that Yankee game, twas brutal. But yeah, he was lights out before that. Hopefully he can find that again.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he and Furcal come back and the team makes a run. If not, hopefully he and Furcal come back, stay healthy, play up to their potential, and we get Austin Romine and Yonder Alonso out of them.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

except let’s go for Montero :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m reaching on Furcal for Alonso. If Broxton is legit again, we should be able to pull Romine.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

or at least like, Ramos. Imagine if we trade Broxton for Ramos. It’s like saying 3 months of broxton = 1.5 years of matt Capps.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

nor do they really need a closer just yet.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

if Broxton is healthy and effective

i believe there will be a number of suitors for him.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

You guys sound like you are giving up. Won’t we need our closer in Sept?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’re not trading Javy Guerra :)

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure we can afford to lose the two games Javy will blow for us before Donny realizes that confidence does not save games.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Experience does, right?

by kinbote on Jun 23, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he and Furcal come back and the team makes a run. If not, hopefully he and Furcal come back, stay healthy, play up to their potential, and we get Austin Romine and Yonder Alonso out of them

.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

right

this is just the scenario if we’re out of it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if we are out of it because Broxton came back still broken, and Rafy sucks as bad as he did before he got hurt?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

then we get more Dee and we win either way.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do we

do we really

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, that bandwagon had an ejector seat for you.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never felt comfortable in it

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s fast!

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

the more interesting question is, what if we’re in it but Broxton is still broken and Furcal sucks as bad as he did before he got hurt? Trade, don’t trade, promote, demote?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily that won’t be the case.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two big series right after the ASB

3 in AZ, 3 in SF

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hated that game. Joe Torre just put his fucking brain on autopilot and fucked up Broxton’s arm.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dang

I was hoping there would be some more 5/6pm games to go to (other than July 4th). The 1:10 starts are at nap time for my son, and the 7:10 starts are leading up to bed time. Hmmmmm. I will just have to do a 7:10 on a Friday or Saturday and stay until melt down mode kicks in.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

No better place to take a nap than under the shade at Dodger Stadium.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because nobody is there?

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Warm afternoon game, cool breeze under the awnings, white noise of crowds and baseball, it’s bliss.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved my Grandparent's seats

Reserve Level, Section 2, Row P

Under the top deck so plenty of shade, right behind home plate.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

My seats

Reserve Level. Aisle 1, Row R.

We were right by each other.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

cool

they didn’t renew them this year, we were all sad. I still have yet to go to a game.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to go a game

let me know. I have plenty of seats, in fact I have seats for this weekend plus every game of the next homestand except Andre bobblehead game

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you wanna go Sunday, I’ve got your ticket, all I ask for is a ride : )

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are going to miss river vs. belgrano’s second leg?

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m covering the Gold Cup final, I doubt r v b tops that : )

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

gold cup saturday
relegation sunday

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

here... look what happened last night

river fans invading the pitch, to fight river players, because they are getting beat again! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZkAb5WvzKU

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

This awesome. Thank you

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow, Argentinians are insane people.

But this doesn’t beat Kershaw v Weaver

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who is favored to win?
Who will have more fans?
How many will get arrested?

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mexico favored because it is a home game for them?

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like I will be the only US Fan there.

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

How is that possible? I was led to believe that the US is filled with soccer fans. Are they all foreigners?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

building US Soccer how we built the US: on imports.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much exactly. Soccer sells out in the US, you just have six year olds wearing Spain jerseys because “the US doesn’t win”

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

at the Houston semi, Reliant was half full and quiet for America, and sold out and loud for Mexico.

The Rose Bowl I imagine will be 60/40 Mexico/US and that’s generous

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope they don’t throw urine on our players this time. That’s where I draw the line.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Throwing is better then the alternative

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tangotiger thinks this is week :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha! yes, throwing urine on the other teams players serves a reasonable purpose. It helps fans self police the game, by keeping the players sharp and smelling good.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m ignorant – does this happen? they urine into vials and then throw it?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking it, and you asked it.

Thanks

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

in some countries

at games they dont sell soda in cups, but in plastic bags with a straw. then you are too into the game to go to the bathroom, so you relieve yourself in the bag and bombs away.

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

If they throw away the urine what will they drink later in the day?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The soda bag is not something I have enjoyed, but outside of a few hours in Tijuana I have never been outside the country. It seems like something Anthony Bourdain or Andrew Zimmern would point out.

/first world problems

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have never enjoyed a soda in a bag either.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

damn, I thought bagged soda was a staple of MREs :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

nope.

they have koolaid type shitty stuff to put in your canteen.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ar-Kansas may be the only 3rd world county that does not use soda bags

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hatred running rampent in my mind right now.

And I have only had water for the last 12 days.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

That should give you plenty of urine to throw at people

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha -isn’t this better then soccer talk:)

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wait

it is soccer talk

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you going to the Dodger game on July 5?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am planning on it. Bummer we can’t bring a guest though. Damm SoSG and their 20 cast crew.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

True story

CSUDH at Chico State, 2004. Chico State fan got drunk, was heckiling (sp?) our team, so the assistant coach went to the corner of the dugout, pissed in a cup, and trhew it on the fan.

The fan shut up, no punishment was rendered. Simpler times.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Bauer style justice

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I fail to see how this did not result in fisticuffs.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sober enough to realize a 1 versus 26 guys with bats match was gonna go badly?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was too drunk to know it was urine. I’m sure if he knew it was urine, he wouldn’t have stayed for the rest of the game.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is the only plausible explanation

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

How long did the girl who got sprayed stay in the Nuthing But A G Thang video?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

As far as you know

I’m waiting for the prequel video to come out to explain it all.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

it will come out right after Detox!! LOL

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a difference?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

when is this game?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's what the sign in Pasadena was referring to

Said, “Sold out soccer game, Saturday. Heavy traffic expected, or something like that.”

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

is this going to affect my commute home from dodgers stadiuM?

if so, balls.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shall be at Lego Land with a thrilled 3 year old (pretending he is 2)

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pirate

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except for the joust ride, when you will pretend he is 4.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could not believe how empty the parking lot and stadium was on Monday.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder when Frank McCourt finally realizes that lowering the parking price might entice more people to come.

Or did he do that already? Paying $15 for parking blows.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

He bans parking at Elysian Park before he does that.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

He can’t do that but he can charge a walking toll. Since everyone who parks outside of the stadium has to walk through the gates to get inside he could legally charge something like $5 per person to walk inside.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since less people come

the areas outside the stadium don’t get filled up as fast (though I have yet to park there), maybe if I go this weekend, I will.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I parked outside the Scott Ave area (where we had the BBQ) last Monday. I pulled up at 6:15 and no one was there. It is normally packed by then

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, that is how you know the lower econ fans are staying away. I’ve had no problem parking outside this year. Only done it twice but as you said normally it is filled long before game time.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, I have parked outside for the past 3 years, normally arrive around 5:45. I could have continued up the hill and parked at Academy if I had known it was so dang empty.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just to show how long it’s been since I drove to Dodger Stadium, parking was $7 last time I drove.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 23, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

they post signs saying No Dodger Parking in the park. Cars will be towed at 9pm, etc etc

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are those recent? Because I’ve had no problem parking there before.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never seen it, parked there last week.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

on the other side, in the solano canyon park

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, right off of Academy? I just park on the street, flip a u-turn after I pass that park and park on the other side. That one actually has a gate that can close, so I never risk it.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shadows play a role in 5/6 games, which is one reason they are frowned-upon.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

On MLB Network right now...

They are showing the 50 greatest ejections. They showed the one where Milton Bradley throws the baseball bag on the field, and throws a ball into the stands.

Vin Scully’s description of it “Milton Bradley throwing baseballs like rice at a wedding”

Vin is the best

by Billyum on Jun 23, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

No


at least not according to this guy.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jun 23, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops fucked that up. Here is the link

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man i wish there was video

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT - Since this is an off day - Jon posted this link last night and I found the article interesting

dodgerthoughts

MLS must choose between more markets and quality of play http://bit.ly/kuvMLr Persuasive piece by @BCBenGrossman

I think you could argue this for any professional sport and I am certainly not even a novice watcher of soccer so I can’t tell how good the level of play is in the MLS.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I feel like someone put a knife in my back

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, if you are now bringing up soccer, all is lost.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just accept it

you should start small, just get into the national team and see if you like it. give it 3 years. thats like 8 games a year, small investment.

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

We gonna win on Saturday?

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey do you know if that game (last night's) will be repeated on TV?

I can’t find evidence that it will but maybe I missed it. Like I missed the game.

(Or online somewhere, though I doubt it.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fox Soccer always repeats the crap out of things. I would check your local cable listings

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah finally found it

repeated tomorrow night (Fri) at 8 PST/11 EST.
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/tvschedule

Was scrolling through local channel guide on screen and couldn’t find it. Thanks.

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

you see folks, this is why we can’t get supporters for the National Team

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Foreigners

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

coincidentally

this was also the problem the original major soccer league in the US had, back in 1920. There was a large base of foreigners who supported soccer back home, but wanted to assimilate so they supported baseball in America.

The league games wouldn’t draw, but bring over a German all-star team and they’re hanging off the rafters in Yankee stadium

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to assume this is fact, though I’ve never actually seen a fan hanging off a rafter. However since these are the same folk who were walking five inches of steel 100 yards up in the air, I think it might have been so.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dempsey, Agudelo, Bradley. 3-1, USA.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 games a year? no wonder I can’t follow it, there’s nothing to follow. It was on at BWW last night, so I watched soccer between Phillies/Cardinals innings.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

8 games a year

is not enough to show I care

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s why I like baseball. Oh I can’t watch today? I’ll watch tomorrow and follow along with the season. You miss a game and there isn’t another one for a couple months? Dang.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

And if the games are that infrequent, the average sports fan is gonna be too drunk to remember any of them.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is why

you have your national team and your club team.

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

same here

love Baseball for that, not only that though :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

sorry, we could talk Lamar Odom for the second pick in the draft talk.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's old news

now it’s Odom and Walton for Andre Iguedola

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

bh was very kind to point out yesterday that we have a soccer blog now, where these things can be discussed : )

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes he was, now if he only followed his own advice.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's true

I was going to post it there but then I forgot.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will do so

only to get that cool logo on my member page

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna throw up the link as a fanshot, people can come check out the cool logo if they want : )

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s why Weiner did it

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

How many home runs has he hit

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will be impressed only

if he Rick Wises it.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

We can talk about baseball.

Like why Cal should have gotten rid of their baseball team once and for all. :)

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

And how well all of your schools are doing at the College World Series.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

My school is doing a great job at not being Cal.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, clearly that is better.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

MY TEAM IS TOTES IN THE CWS

WOOOO GO DORES!!!

and I actually know people on the team!

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

neato! We were wondering if you were fist pumping over Vandy’s good show

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

neato!!!!!!!!!

sometimes I feel the youth has stumbled back into American Graffeti

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least now

I won’t have to worry about some UC Irvine crusade against UCLA for last year.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of UC baseball

UCSB made a nice baseball coach hire this week, from what I can gather. Oregon’s top recruiter + pitching coach, formerly of UC Riverside.

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

now its Virginia. Those fucking bastards.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

if by robbed you mean they lost the game. I mean it’s okay being the losing team, it just means you lost.

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

there’s gotta be a Cal blog somewhere, right?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

There probably isn’t a Dominguez blog.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nor should there be. It’s college sports, you’re 35 rooting for children.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not 35, and rooting for alma mater makes at least as much sense as rooting for a geographic team.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

if not more since it’s the way it’s been since Oxford and Cambridge were founded

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Virginia rushed the field before the 2nd run crossed the plate. If the umpires did their job, he should have been called for obstruction and the inning over with the game tied.

I’m annoyed the umps didn’t do their supposed jobs.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

winning on technicalities is the best kind of winning

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

So don’t rush the field then!

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really

that is quite the whine Tripon

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or is that interference. Blargh, I don’t know.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is baseball, not lawyer ball.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that when Don Mattingly walks to the mound two times in one inning so George Sherrill has to pitch.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you wish that your team could win because of a technicality, yes, you should.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, in this case, tied.

And calling that a technicality is like saying you don’t need to touch home plate to score.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't get bitter, get better.

Robin Ventura should have been credited with hitting a grand slam because the ball cleared the fence with bases loaded, not a single because his teammates kept him from touching second, third and home.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it was a single up the middle, where UCI catcher had the potential to tag the 2nd runner at home if he wasn’t rushed by Virgina’s team. Urgh, Why am I remembering all of this.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or trying to lawyer a man out because he missed the plate on a home run trot.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was trying to draw a much more fair comparison.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets just argue what actually happened.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay. Don’t play lawyer ball.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

So your argument is that the catcher had an actual chance to tag out the winning run but was never given the chance because the opposing team rushed the field and obstructed his ability to make the tag?

Does anyone who did not have a rooting interest in this game agree with Tripon, that the catcher had a chance?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The tough thing here is that you can’t really make the ruling on that “did he have a chance or not”. I would argue (from the umpire perspective) that the fan interference did not give us the ability to see how the play would have turned out, so it needs to be called.

Of course, I have not seen video of this yet.

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5kTf_1XcU

On first glance: absolutely no chance to get the runner.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

So was it called back?

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, thank God. No interference there

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard it

never saw it

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is the ball in play on a home run?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a situation where the only way to actually get the guy out is by playing lawyer ball.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That said, but any team who storms a field before the runner crosses the plate should have urine thrown at them.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes

Virginia is a bunch of dicks. They will rue the day!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is all I ask for!

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you think no one watches Yachting?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because Dennis Conner and his white lips retired.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hear rowing is exciting at the end, when all the Harvard alums give you expensive booze!

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

with the bused-in eye candy.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some would call that McCourt ball

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

“You don’t buy verdicts, you buy jurors. And we can get several of these jurors on the cheap”
-Peter Brand

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you flip that, but I still laughed. verdicts = wins, jurors = players.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was playing off runs and wins, but you’re right, I missed the earlier part of the quote. Yours works better.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like a Boss

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jonah Hill in "Get Me To the Coliseum"

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can't we just blame Mike Gellespie

for thinking it was a good idea to pitch his starter on one days rest and then after he walked a guy on 4 straight pitches and failed to bring in the reliever who was ready to go?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I hate Mike Gellespie too.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Wingo still playing?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was talking about Ronnie Wingo Jr. RB for Arkansas.

Yes, he still plays.

:)

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that pick will turn out to be a steal for the Dodgers

or if there are reasons for concern about how he’ll translate into pros that turned some scouts off?

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

he’s been a stud in the WS, I see no downside

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

kiss of death ;)

I’m sure Wingo’s just happy to be thewe.

by kinbote on Jun 23, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does it bother me

(other than fact that I respect him) that Jay Jaffe rips the Dodgers more than a Giants blogger does, even though he is purportedly a Dodger fan…? Maybe because he covers the Yankees a lot more than he covers the Dodgers and then when he chimes in it’s usually super negative about everything. I can’t blame anyone for being negative in general about the state of things right in the here and now, but I find it a little tiresome and disappointing since I like Jay.

Anyway… as you were. #nobodycares

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

First, I didn’t know Jay jaffe was a Dodger fan.

Second, and most importantly, he rips the team because he’s a Dodger fan. If he wasn’t, the only emotion that should be shown to the team with the 7th worst record in baseball at the moment, is ambivalence.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Jaffe claims a lot of teams. He claims to be a Dodgers, Yankees, and I think… Reds fan?

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how people are fans of multiple teams in the same sport. You’re a fan of one with an interest in others? Fine. But you root for one.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

some of us are baseball fans first.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I tried scouting and failed because I couldn’t just watch a game between two teams I had no rooting interest in.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of, have the guys locked in the Fancave tried desperately to escape?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

if he hasn’t chewed off his own foot from crazy then psychology is wrong

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

they have their turkey

and fishing pole, they’re fine

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Put some money on the game and then go watch! :)

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy sports betting with friends, but I don’t trust gambling sites or agencies. It would take a lot for me to feel comfortable betting on sports with someone I don’t actually know.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

bring a friend, or bet one of the parents. :)

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better to win money from a faceless conglomerate.

Also, better to siphon fractions of cents into a separate bank account, causing a big problem down in accounting.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because he cares and like most sabre fans has had a dislike for McCourt/Ned ever since Depo was fired only two years into his contract and replaced with a Giant Assistant GM. JMO

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hear Ned Colletti just signed another 5 year extension.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jay is a Dodger fan but if the McCourts can get Roberto Baly upset, who could blame Jay

Of course, I do have this belief that Baseball Prospectus had this thing against the Dodgers when that happened (I think Cristina Karhl will be at the SABR convention next month so if I get the chance, I will ask about that).

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

felt that BP had a bit of a vendetta even if they didn’t realize it.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would be interesting to hear, if you do talk to Kahrl

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Always thought she was the fairest of the BP writers, and the most clever with the turn of the words. Her transaction analyst used to be a must read.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s just flamed out on the McCourt stuff, which I can’t blame anyone for.

If there was an actual good team to support it might distract from this whole mess, but right now there’s nothing really worth paying attention to but the McCourts.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

So true

the MVP season Kemp is throwing up is boring.
The break out season by Kershaw is so yesterday’s news

Nothing to see here, move along

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

If a player has an MVP season and no one notices, did it really happen?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

My AL friends became Kershaw fans at the game on Monday. The power of the stupid swing

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah honestly I can't blame him for much of it

and I realize that professionally he covers the Yankees while in his heart he is a Dodger fan (he said in interview his family was Brooklyn Dodger fans and he stayed that way too). I don’t want him to be Pollyanna anyway, just he never even chimes in about Dodger prospects, AA pitchers, Dee Gordon, Rubby (that I can recall), etc. That’s all I was saying. Not being totally rational here. :-)

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do people care so much about what writers think?

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know! But as a writer myself I am glad

that some do, for whatever reason. ;-)

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gonna be tough for me to hit the over….

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

rule of thumb

never wager money that relies on the Seattle Mariners offense to do something.
Xei’s Third Principle of Baseball

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know…..I was thinking they would hammer Marquis.

Guess not.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marquis has quietly put together a decent year. His triple slashes are all around 3.70. He makes me nervous though as he allows a lot of balls in play. Just gotta hope they are of the ground ball variety like today.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah….

I just blew that one. I am 9-2 this week so far.

I played the over in the Seattle/Washington game today. The under Minn/SF. The under in STL/Phi. and KC and the over in the KC/Az game.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got…
SEA/WAS under
PHI/STL under (same as you)
OAK/NYN under (rain delay)
ARI/KC over (same as you)

ML WAS +111
ML NYM -133
ML MIN +169
ML PHI +103 (Oswalt)

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yahoo had an interesting article

saying Ichiro should try hitting for more power, as he’s been struggling to maintain his average.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ty Cobb style…

“I could hit Home Runs when I wanted to…”

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

here it is

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Washington Nationals have swung at 47 pitches today and whiffed on 17 of them.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

What’s league average out of curiousity?

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wilfred premieres tonight on FX. Looks so bizarre, worthy enough to at least check out the opener.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I will admit to being curious

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve adopted that as my Shoe In Of the Week for best summer comedy

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I look forward to checking it out though

I can’t imagine how it’s going to not get old rather fast… we’ll see.

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the pilot and liked it. Weird as hell but kind of darkly fun. Good combo with Louie.

by JonWeisman on Jun 23, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

i don't think i've seen a commercial for that

with the sound on, so i have no earthly clue what the premise is other than a man in a dog suit talking to Elijah Wood

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The world sees Wilfred as a dog. Elijah Wood sees him as a man in a dog suit.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

thank you

i was wondering if that was it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would loved to have been in that meeting

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s based on an Australian series.

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucking Aussies, they have replaced all our actors, now they are doing it to the writers. No wonder the Underdogs of the world can’t get a meeting.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell me about it!

Thinking of faking an accent and adding an Oeltjen-style grin.

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I was an actor I would totally pretend I came from down under to make it big in Hollywood.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn't that a movie plot?

if it isn’t, sure sounds like one

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

there was that one movie where a guy put on black face to get a minority scholarship.

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or if you change it into a man pretending to be a woman to get acting gig

 you have Tootsie.

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shakespeare did it best, but it’s not really a well I’d keep going to

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shakespeare did it best, but it’s not really a well I’d keep going to

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

right, i know of that one, haven't seen it

they should have Hugh Laurie as a down and out American actor, who pretends to be British to become a star!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should make an American Western with only Aussies.

They already started with James Bond

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

better yet

the next James Bond should be American!

ANARCHY!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see Robert Downey Jr as James Bond

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s already doing that as Tony Stark

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robert Downey Jr played Sherlock Holmes, it goes both ways

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he was awesome

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not often, it takes a good American actor to pull it off. We don’t have many. We have the Jonah Hills of the world.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

awkward

is in right now

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Cera needs to milk this phase for all its worth

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure does

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

3:10 to Yuma with Russell Crowe and the Wales-born Christian Bale (of a South African father and English [I think] mother, sorta trends that way.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nails it.

and it was a decent Western.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

C. Thomas Howell was a G. By G, I mean “crappy actor.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This grin?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine being a major league player and having an Aussie accent.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear Vin do it every at bat. Also, I assume you get your pick of the ASU girls in February.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect even the Cal girls fall prey to the shit eating grin from down under

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he’s a good looking dude anyway, on top of all that. I am certain he is not hurting for dates.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s a good looking dude for sure

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 23, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

I took that photo. The ladies were liking him a lot.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a whole lotta Aussie.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda looking forward to it

On the other hand, Falling Skies sucked, I thought

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Jun 23, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least you didn’t have to review it : p

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that the one with Noah Wylie?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

dah. And he’s trying to win back Boston from aliens

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

To bad

poor SciFi is the worst. Bothers me to know end that we have tons and tons of brilliant sci fi already out there yet they let hacks try to create something that ends up being just crap giving sci fi a poor name.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

(sheds a tear for Firefly)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spielberg backed the project, so it at least looks pretty, but yeah for every good sci-fi series there are three bad ones

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t say that

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

then you need to watch Battlestar Galactica

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched it last night and it was horrible.

Bad acting, bad writing, bad… everything.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know I taught history, at the unnamed Boston University? And with my knowledge of military history, I shall lead a militia. Because I taught history, did you know that? WHERE IS MY SON?

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, did you know that I’m a Captain and I hate civilians? We call them eaters!

And I dislike you, professor at the unnamed Boston University, but I will give up our best weapon to white supremacist (maybe) criminals to get you back.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You both have saved me an hour of torture

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was

vastly entertained by that summary

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even worse: It was a two-hour premiere.

really just two episodes put back to back, but still.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil watches all things on double speed.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do, do alot of fast forwarding when I’m the only one watching.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

you can only hear, “I don’t have money for this pizza, is there any other way I can pay?” so many times before it gets old. Let’s see some action!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of TV

Aqua Teen Hunger Force is apparently called Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1 now.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

wat?

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broxton pitching for the Isotopes again tonight

From Isotopes’ announcer Rob Portnoy’s Twitter:

Broxton throws one inning (max 25 pitches) in second rehab start for ABQ tonight!

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope we don't hear too many Portnoy Complaints

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So Broxton is throwing to just one batter then?

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Buffalo Wild Wings

I’m going to the Rancho game tonight. Anyone else going?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I wanted to write about the Chan Ho Park v Tim Belcher kick from 1999, but stupid Getty Images doesn’t have a photo available.

Back to the drawing board!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

That was the moment I stopped being a Chan Ho Park fan.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers were even wearing the blue jersey tops that day. And the Angels were in their pinstripes and periwinkle combo

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Given that Chan Ho purportedly had a black belt I would have thought this was a felony.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’d have trouble getting into banks too.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

blackbelts are a necessary part of the game of baseball.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

MLB network had a clip of Sheff in a blue jersey the other day.

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not Getty, but

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the Mo Vaughn factor.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Angels are still trying to forget.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 23, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is clearly in the middle of saying, “Aw, Dayumn.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

truely, that scene is straight out of a Chris Tucker, Jackie Chan buddy movie

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Black dude and Asian dude what else do you need.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

An evil Asian dude and/or girl.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously those have to be the worst jerseys of all baseball time

(i’m not including jerseys that are worn like 3 times a year)

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s a meeting I would love to be in.

“Hello, hello, we’re Disney, and we’d like to make a few changes. PInstripes are cool, lets get you guys some pinstripes. The Rockies have pinstripes so they must be cool. Ugh, I’m tired, I’m going on break. My five year old son will fill you in on the rest”

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alfredo Silverio was named to the All-Star Futures team.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s an interesting choice.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems reasonable, he’s been rocking.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do we keep on sending players who have no shot of making a team. We kept on sending Pedro Baez for years too.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because Rubby is on the major league team.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Garcia or Garret Gould would have been more reasonable choices. If both have only a say, 25% of making the majors, than Silverio would have only, say a 5% of doing that.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are in Single A, don’t think they are allowed. Garcia is from Puerto Rico so he would rep the USA side would he not? As is Gould, they are looking for international players. The concept is one player from each team for the International and USA side.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

On quick glance

9 players from Class A on US roster, 7 players from Class A on World roster.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

and as you are well aware we do not spend much money in the DR.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dee was there

last year

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nats manager

doing something crazy. Letting Marquis hit with first and second two outs in the B7th at 94 pitches in scoreless game. Let’s see how this turns out.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

and he struck out

If Mattingly did that, Eric would need CPR.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the choice was Navarro…:)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marquis can hit.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not as good as Jayson Nix. Now watch him get pulled after one or two batters.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean Lance, and from I heard, Lance is hurt.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Supposedly it was announced he was available to PH today. Ballsey call by Riggleman.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harumph, and apparently not much since 2005.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Formatting is probably crap, but...World roster

Pitchers (10)
Alvarez, Henderson (Blue Jays)
Hendriks, Liam (Twins)
Herrera, Kelvin (Royals)
Infante, Gregory (White Sox)
Marinez, Jhan (Marlins)
Martinez, Carlos (Cardinals)
Paxton, James (Mariners)
Perez, Martin (Rangers)
Teheran, Julio (Braves)
Vizcaino, Arodys (Braves)

Catchers (2)
Player (Organization)
Rosario, Wilin (Rockies)
Valle, Sebastian (Phillies)

Infielders (8)
Player (Organization)
Alonso, Yonder (Reds)
Altuve, Jose (Astros)
Marte, Jefry (Mets)
Martinez, Francisco (Tigers)
Lee, Hak-Ju (Rays)
Liddi, Alex (Mariners)
Profrar, Jurickson (Rangers)
Schoop, Jonathan (Orioles)

Outfielders (5)
Player (Organization)
Chiang, Chih-Hsien (Red Sox)
Fuentes, Reymond (Padres)
Marte, Starling (Pirates)
Silverio, Alfredo (Dodgers)
Viciedo, Dayan (White Sox)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

U.S. roster

Pitchers (10)
Player (Organization)
Cosart, Jarred (Phillies)
Gibson, Kyle (Twins)
Harvey, Matt (Mets)
Miller, Shelby (Cardinals)
Moore, Matt (Rays)
Peacock, Brad (Nationals)
Pomeranz, Drew (Indians)
Skaggs, Tyler (D’Backs)
Thornburg, Tyler (Brewers)
Turner, Jacob (Tigers)

Catchers (2)
Player (Organization)
Mesoraco, Devin (Reds)
Romine, Austin (Yankees)

Infielders (8)
Player (Organization)
Arenado, Nolan (Rockies)
d’Arnaud, Chase (Pirates)
Darnell, James (Padres)
Goldschmidt, Paul (D’Backs)
Green, Grant (Athletics)
Kipnis, Jason (Indians)
Machado, Manny (Orioles)
Middlebrooks, Will (Red Sox)

Outfielders (5)
Player (Organization)
Brown, Gary (Giants)
Harper, Bryce (Nationals)
Myers, Wil (Royals)
Szczur, Matthew (Cubs)
Trout, Mike (Angels)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a hell of an outfield. USA! USA! USA!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Szczur signed up to bring extra consonants in case anybody needs one. Too bad Eovaldi didn’t make the squad.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

you have to pay

for vowels

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

USA should own. We have about 4 of the top 5 prospects in MLB.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, they all play in the minors. In that sense, they’re all ‘ours’.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where have you gone, Ottawa Lynx?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers could not get one guy on the USA team?

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That blows chunks

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

50 spots, 30 teams. Not everyone gets two. Maybe they didn’t want some pitchers going.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tolleson needs to play for more teams this season.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rest easy folks

Travis Denker has been promoted to Double A.

Pedro Guerrero (no relation) has been activated from the DL for Rancho

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Travis one step closer to failure once again.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn’t really fail before. I’m glad he got the promotion. Sticking him in A was pretty uncool.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he is going to play 3rd and if Baez is going to the mound? Pedroza is still at second and they have no room to move him to AAA.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

is this about the time

promotions start happening? Just wondering if we’ll see more soon

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usually after the all-star games you start seeing some.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pottermore

Uh, did anyone tell J.K. Rowling that pirated copies of her books existed for years?

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

not everyone is a dirty pirate hooker

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

some are clean

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some hookers don’t even like pirates no matter the hygiene

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i imagine it's the hooks

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

how exactly

are those two statements related?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Her new online venture main business is selling e-books.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

well since people can download them illegally

she shouldn’t even bother trying to make money on her own works right?

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m saying she’s missing the boat on actually making money on her stuff though the interwebs.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t she now one of the richest people in the world?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

richer than the queen

last I heard

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, but she’s trying to bank people will buy a digital copy of her HP books.

If it was something new, I would understand, but everyone who wanted to read HP already has physical copies of her work.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

lots of people are moving to e readers now

theres a market for it

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

New kids are learning how to read every day. That is like saying no one will ever ever need to download a Beatles song.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those new readers probably have a parent or an older sibling who was already into the series to borrow books from.

And she’s marketing the website to current fans of the series already.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

tell Disney

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure you paid for your copy of Microsoft word at full price.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting things on sale

makes you a dirty pirate hooker?

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh is he saying my student discount is piracy?

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

tripon is just being tripon right now

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about student discounts.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course the question should be if you got it when you were a student!

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup, purchased Word for Mac for $80 when I enrolled at LMU and knew I’d need to have a reliable way to write papers

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, mine was only $20 but then again my brother got it though Disney.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh Disney is fantastic with their discounts. My mom could have gotten a new iphone for $50

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you pirated it from your brother?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you read the disclamiers, there would be install on 2 or 3 PC restrictions.

I won’t go on another rant about that.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Used to be in the same household. Like one for your laptop, one for you workstation. Not one for your cheap ass brother.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brother paid for it, he should be able to use it as you wish.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t you download the open source version for free online?

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

only recently

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I consider people who read this blog who have never donated pirate scum.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

piracy is wrong

but I still pirate movie because f the IRA. If I want to support a musician I’ll buy a shirt or see them in concert.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Irish Republican Army?

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s where my head went too. And fuck them, pipe bombing terrorists

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what is he talking about

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pirate the shit out of music

because artists get almost nothing from cd sales. Sorry for mangling that so badly.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

at country music concerts, they always thank country radio, not their label. The labels are sort of a neccessary evil to get true publicity going, but nolander’s right, buying a cd doesn’t support the artist

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is an odd typo

RIAA

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also said movies instead of music

WTF

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I like about this blog

someone will Nolander a statement and it will hang out there for a few minutes but at least one brave soul will finally say WTF are you trying to say.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will now call that a Nolander

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be angry if it wasn't true

so I’m going to laugh instead

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I thought my typos were bad.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

She was probably too busy cleaning money out of her wazoo to notice.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

100 each?

cool.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

better then the 60 each though?

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

she is a girl

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now

I have two Twitter accounts. What does that make me?

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

unable to grasp a bad joke

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am also unable to grasp good jokes.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

your timeline just isnt calling me

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did this become about you?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

now you are making it about you

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

never realized how much you look like Emma Stone ;-)

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

no need to be mean there UDog

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wha...? Emma Stone is adorable, whatchutalkin about Willis?

(Plus referencing JL’s twitpic is of Emma Stone, so, that.)

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe G meant mean to Emma.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a name I hear alot I guess the only movie I’ve seen her in was Superbad and Zombieland.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

She is going to be in a lot more stuff going forward I believe

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

See "Easy A" too. She is awesome in that.

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

She was really good in that.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'll have to see that

i remember the premise sounded pretty good

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

rob (Richmond, VA)


Does Dodger prospect Nathan Eovaldi project as a starter or reliever? Thoughts on his potential?
Klaw
  (3:13 PM)


Starter. He’s come on suddenly this year – not out of nowhere, but a major leap in performance in one year.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

That is the kind of insight you pay for.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

or use your brother’s login!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, because we know Tripon did not ante up for any ESPN insider, unless they are taking payments in donuts.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The chats aren’t part of insider anymore.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Silverio also got Southern League hitter of the week.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I absolutely love his XBH line

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nats win the pitchers duel 1-0

pinch hit sac-fly by Nix wins the game. 38-37 now. jealous?

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Jason Grey

of ESPN Insider listed Trayvon Robinson as the 3rd best prospect for the rest of 2011 (for fantasy purposes). He does not include players that have already appeared in the Majors.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

for the Dodgers?

or everyone?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

For that to happen he’d have to be the next player to get a crack at LF and then succeed at it.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the Town last night. I had been led to believe this was a good movie. I was misled.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

The movie where Ben Affleck is a bank robber?

My girl wanted to see that movie…couldn’t get into the premise enough to drag myself to the theater.

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by TomasC on Jun 23, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it had good acting, but the ending was just BS.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s funny, I watched it last night as well. I thought it was decent enough but felt it ended somewhat abruptly.

by OB12 on Jun 23, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gone Baby Gone

was fantastic. Have not heard good things about The Town.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was disturbing and good, expected The Town to be the same, but it was like Disney took over the end of the movie.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

spoilers I guess, 2 of 5 people live, the boy doesn’t get the girl. Thats not disney dude.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes Gone Baby Gone was very good.

by OB12 on Jun 23, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is the kind of movie that is good if you watch it on Netflix streaming. If you have to wait for the DVD, you are disappointed. I call this “watching with streaming glasses”

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by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually makes sense

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Prophet

Best film of the Decade…A crime film as well…but much more than that.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is an excellent movie

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by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Spiritual and compassionate film. Also and incredible insight into post Sarkozy Neo-Lib/EU France. Just great. Prison as the post modern Biblical Landscape…damn..so good.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

On my list

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great movie, very powerful

Yeah I thought the Town overrated, too, so many people told me how great it was and it fel t like a bunch of ludicrous plot threads I’d seen done better before. Ending was bogus. That said, I still found it watchably engaging at least

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

streaming glasses!

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

erroneauos

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That word

always makes me think of Vince Vaughn in Wedding Crashers.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 23, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josie and other Sci Fi fans who read

I’d like you to read Glory Road by Robert Heinlin and let me know what you think.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Time to get back to work luckily.

by Xeifrank on Jun 23, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The plucky upstarts from Texas Western morph into giant bugs and eat lily-white Kentucky players and spit them out on Adolph Rupp?

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

close

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chone Figgins has officially lost his 3rd base job just 1 1/2 years into his contract. Even worse, he’s being replaced by one Adam Kennedy. Can’t blame that one on Bavasi.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d cal for Chone Figgins to be released, but Eric would blast me for it.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

they see me trollin...

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

when they were #6org

seems like their GM could do no wrong, I wonder how they feel about him now.

(i won’t even attempt to spell his name)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should trade Uribe for Figgins. :-)

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by TomasC on Jun 23, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

.755

thats AKs OPS in 199 abs this year

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should bet on that staying at that level the rest of the year.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

.724 OPS over his last 1050 PA.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

hit me with a rock

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give me a second to find a big one

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been told things that 200 PAs is a legit sample size

in a full year in 2009 he put up similiar numbers. What I’m saying is… he will probably be good for a third baseman this year. At least at the plate. 3rd base is a wasteland this year.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is still a disturbing truth

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have good memories of AK

him doing well pleases me

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

big time home runs once upon a time in the ALCS. Not his fault but I never liked him because he was in the Edmonds deal.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

They traded Edmonds for aWS :-p

I’ll take it. /lalalallala I can’t hear you

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

what?!

why?

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 of 11 was not good enough?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

very surprising

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always liked Riggleman.

He did a great job with the Cubs. Lots of good common sense lineups.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your lede

jinxed the Nats.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought they won?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Management upheaval! Chaos in the Clubhouse!

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

apparently over his contract?
Rizzo: Jim Riggleman unsatisfied with contract situation, has resigned effective the end of this game.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.federalbaseball.com/2011/6/23/2239995/rizzo-jim-riggleman-unsatisfied-with-contract-situation-has-resigned#comments

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Nationals will dump all that money on Jayson Werth then lowball Riggleman?

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good to me.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the manager, very few are worth more than bumbkis.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keith Law agrees:

I would be very impressed by Riggleman’s move if he wasn’t thoroughly replaceable as a manager.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll never know

If that is true or not. Do the 88 Dodgers win without LaSorda?

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

not saying all managers are replaceable, just that it’s Jim Riggleman, not Connie Mack.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst manager in major league history

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just had a funny image in my head of Frank McCourt, MLB manager

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 1:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

At least Cornelius McGillicuddy wore a tie with his suits.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

no because someone had to fill out the lineup card. And I don’t know if anyone else would have cussed out Jesse Orosco on the same pitching mound where he pitched in a World Series two years prior to the 1988 NLCS.

But in all seriousness, 1988 was probably Tommy’s best year as manager.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im not fan of LaSorda, but he seemed to have something with that 88 team. I can’t think of any other explanation.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe but some managers would not have kept playing Michael Morse after his slump to start the year.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s trying to get out while the Nats are over performing so he’ll get all the credit for their success when they regress to the mean.

Then the Dodgers will hire him.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going with he heard they were going to fire him before this recent hot streak and this is his big FU to them.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So letting Marquis hit was pretty much a “fuck it Im done anyway”. Nice.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats crazy. The guy just quits on his team because his option wasnt picked up? I understand wanting the security but he signed the dam contract, he should honor it. The team doesnt have to pick up the option or work out new deal until the offseason.

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s gotta be more to it.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you feel about NFL draftees holding out?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats different because they havent signed a contract. They hold out to get the best contract they can, or because they dont want to do mini camps or preseason haha. But anyways, I just dont see how Riggleman walking out helps him. I think it makes things worse, but I could be wrong. But why not just finish out season and see what happens in offseason? He wont get a new job before then anyways I dont think.

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Riggleman is an idiot

WAHHHH WAHHHH

Good luck finding a job better..

by Julio Nievas on Jun 23, 2011 2:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can't remember another time one of the hotter teams in baseball has their manager resign that abruptly.

bizarro

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

JEBUS!

524 comments in just over three hours?

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

All discussing my tidbits

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope we have another no-hitter on Sunday, but this time Kershaw throws it

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Knowing us we’d get no hit by Weaver simultaneously.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, but we would still win again!

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by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be insane to beat someone twice while being no hit.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

what comes first...

Kershaw no no, or Miles with a Multi walk game?

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bet the under.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

if Mark Cuban were somehow able to own the Dodgers

would he put the games on HDnet?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

But then C league kick boxing would get preempted.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

just use it as a segue

into Art Mann Presents

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe

MLB owns the rights to all digital forms of broadcasting games (really they own all rights since they have to approve all media deals).

But only in rare instances can a team stream games on a non-MLB site.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that a no then?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bh

works with lawyers, you will rarely get a yes or no, simply facts to back up his line of thinking.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

and HDnet is a cable channel

not a web site

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

HD Net is a TV network is it not?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ah

will then unless HD Net is willing pay multiple millions plus the fact that Time Warner, Direct TV and other carriers won’t be willing to charge customers 2 bucks a month for HD Net make it an unlikely business deal.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should function similar to YES or NESN. Cuban owns the network and would own the team too, no? I suppose it could work the same as the Fox ownership, but I doubt that.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

HDnet would still have to negotiate payments to the Dodgers.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, but if Cuban sits there and says “I’m going to pay my left pocket $3billion dollars from my right hand”, what does it matter?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because that’s what Frank McCourt has been doing with the Dodgers the last 8 years, and it turned the franchise into a clusterfuck?

You need some sort of ethical reason why you’re doing something.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would think it would be like if McCourt started a Dodger network

the money would then go back into the team.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least

that would be the idea.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cable (and Satellite)

work this way.

The channels/networks work out a distribution deal where they pay the station a certain amount each month (ESPN famously gets $4 per subscriber each month whether or not that person ever watches that channel).

The rights fees are sold by the team/MLB to that channel.

The reason why Fox Sports may pay more for the Dodgers is that without the Lakers, they may not have enough content to realistically charge the carriers whatever they are getting.

I doubt HDNet gets much in subscriber fees now plus since (I assume) they only broadcast nationally, they would not want to have most of the country blacked out while they showed Dodger games in LA area.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake Smith out 4-6 weeks

Having surgery for a sports hernia. Anthony “return for Dotel” Jackson demoted from Double A to replace Smith on the Rancho roster.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

bummer

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t we just see him on Ogden’s roster?

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

soccer ballin

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you explain how to kick a soccer ball

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I should go there

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say

if the commenters are Josie, Maddz and GScott, what would you expect.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly

calm, collected, rational thinking. And bubbles.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is sort of like TBLA overflow at the moment…..but there are bubbles!

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check yo phone sucka

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

any mention of the site should be accompanied by a link

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is linked, everytime she comments

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

nobody looks at sig tags

its programmed into us nowdays to ignore them

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed it right away

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not know that until now

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

word.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eww

Someone at work showed me this disgusting video of a chick sitting on the men’s whatchamacallit that they piss in at Dodger Stadium.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

I refuse to call those a urinal

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah, but those multi ones are called something else.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohh right right.. I was just there.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

He never goes there. he would not know what they are called

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trough pissing is a lost art

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steps

1) if no one else is using it, go wherever.
2) if one other person is using it, select furthest non-awkard point away from them
3) if more than one other person is using it, select anywhere at least one person-width away from someone else.
4) if only the person-width gaps are available, you may choose any spot where you won’t bump shoulders with either of the people on your sides.
5) if bumping shoulders is the only way for you to get to that spot, hold it.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

6) don’t piss next to the person you are at the game with

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you, forgot this one. 6 is vital.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

why not? Whats the big deal about pee? Who cares where you pee man haha

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crossing Streams

not about the river flows

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a guy pick up a nickel out of the trough in the top deck once. While I was pissing 12 inches away!!! Approximately 2002.

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha, I’d have thrown a quarter in to seen what would happen:)

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember in

My psych 10 class at UCLA, we were discussing a study where they tracked what happens when a guy goes to the men’s room and one of the 3 urinals are taken, does he take the one next to person using it or does he choose the one at the other end.

I believe the results were inconclusive.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect it would depend on how comfortable they are with their unit.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I REALLY want to see this video

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 troughs, 3 stalls

millions of pounds of non-liquid being served.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This definitely isn’t true in the top deck.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have not been in the top deck since someone threw up on my friend. That was 36 years ago.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only times I've been on the top deck recently

is on my way to the press box.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only way to sit behind the plate without spending 30+ dollars. I’m willing to deal with the occasional blackout drunk.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worse

it was a young kid who simply ate to much

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch. Only kid I’ve seen throw up was in the field level after his Dad didn’t give him any sunscreen and he turned deep red.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a dad whose kid had thrown up on him walk out carrying the sick kid at a Nats game once. My section applauded him.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jun 23, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to induce vertigo.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Row A is actually some pretty sweet seats. Walking down the stairs is a bitch but the seats are great.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of Row A on the top deck since there’s like half the leg room.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Row A on the field level is a farce. not allowed to put your feet on the old dugout..

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

My old mini-plan on the TD was 12 games for $48

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zooey Deschanel got a new TV series called the New Girl

About a girl who moves in with three guys who try to hook her up with other men after she is dumped by a long term boyfriend.

I do not know if the three men she is shacking up with on the show are gay.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw the three-minute preview for it.

And it made me sad that it seemed so horrible.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet someone in the end she will end up having flirtatious affairs with each of the men one season at a time

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That show looks terrible from a social and comedy standpoint.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

three gay men is more than the standard one token gay : )

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

They come in pairs now

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure there’s no gay involved here.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Wikipedia
The show will star Zooey Deschanel as Jessica Day, a well-liked, bubbly, and adorable woman in her late 20’s who is trying to get over her surprise breakup with her model boyfriend. She eventually finds a new place to stay when she moves in with three single guys; Nick, a bartender, Schmidt, a professional and modern-day casanova, and Coach, a former athlete turned trainer. Rounding out this unlikely bunch is Jessica’s street-smart model friend Cece. Together, this group of friends try to help Jessica learn a lot about love, life and mostly about herself, while at the same time learn a lot about themselves.

This show will be fabulous.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Zooey is Johnny Drama to Emily’s Vinny at this point.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

She’s gunning for Frank to Emily’s Sly Stallone with this show.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Means she has been dumped by 25 men but shockingly is still able to give romantic advice because even though she has picked losers every time, she can pick a winner for her friend.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And she’ll have a British accent. Because then you can tell she has traveled the world. Or at least two countries.

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather watch Murder She Wrote

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

500 Minutes of Summer...

before it’s canceled?

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even I

am not excited by this show.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed at the commercial, when the bow dropped to the floor.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t seen that.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

roommates with benefits

would that work out?

it sounds like it would be fun for a few days, then just go bad from there

by eitherethier on Jun 23, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would have to be one slutty roommate too work out.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy, any big hockey fans here?

On the heels of Jeff Carter’s exodus from the Philadelphia Flyers, Mike Richards has been traded to Los Angeles for Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds and a second round draft choice.
Good deal for Kings?

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

In the now, yes.. In the long run.. Maybe..

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

This guy better be a dam good player… Kings gave up alot for this guy. Isnt Schenn their top prospect, and top prospect overall in the NHL? Simmonds is pretty good too.

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richards is a damn good player. And still fairly young.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Simmons.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly why I’m torn over this.. I think we have a real shot at the cup now. Richards is capable of 30 goals and we needed someone like this last season and now we have it.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the trade. We have centers on the roster that would keep Schenn down another year, and Richards had 60+ points last year. Sucks about the pick, but Richards also has a long term locked in contract, so that’s nice for the chances of signing the rest of our young stars. Who all still needs extended?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew Simmonds did but he’s not our problem… Doughty I think.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Williams got extended

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

as did Jack Johnson. I think you’re right, I think it’s Doughty’s turn.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m fairly sure thats it. I know Handzus is a FA and he could get resigned. I would really like us up the middle if Zus returned. Although that would block a younger guy.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

not anymore it wouldn’t :)

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it would cause Its Kopi-Richards-Stoll-??? up the middle now. Zus could fill it or we could have a young guy do it. Depends how much money Zus wants.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richards = Richardson?

Trevor Lewis looked okay.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bust. Lewis looked pretty good, but he can play RW… Simmonds spot. His natural spot was RW at first I thought.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could be, I don’t remember.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point is he can be Line 3 RW. Line 3 could be Clifford/Stoll/Lewis and that looks pretty good. Or some o f them could be on line 4. We are a deep team so we have options.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice to see. Wonder how much Kings tickets are.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha well they just released the NHL schedule, so at the very least you can pick some games.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Richards better then Carter whom Philly also dealt? Seems like less was given up for Carter, wonder why Kings didnt go for him?

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

both had 66 points, Carter more goals than Richards. Maybe wanted the LW instead of RW? I don’t know.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. RIchards is good, but Brayden Schenn is a top top prospect. This is like Mike Trout and Howie Kendrick for Jayson Werth.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richards is more top line player than a Jayson Werth.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully also younger

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

26

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

26 with 9 years left on his extension.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andre Ethier then? He’s a good player, but he’s not a superstar. A non-superstar should not cost Schenn and a solid player and a high pick.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

more like, Matt Kemp. Maybe not in the Pujols territory, but very very close to that tier.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

AND we have him for 9 years.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t have as high a ceiling as Matt Kemp. Maybe Adam Jones?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s more like, getting a ball in your ribs for nitpicking :)

Dude is 26, already a very good player and a rising star. He’s Matt Kemp with a 9 year extension.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

30th in NHL in scoring in 10-11, 49th in 09-10. So let’s call him about the 50th best player in the league, factoring in defensemen and goalies. He is young, he is good and he is locked up long-term. I don’t have a problem with the acquisition, just the cost.

Making a comparison to Bonds or Pujols is ridiculous. Kemp isn’t a ridiculous comp, but I don’t think Richards is as good as him.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is more than scoring. Defensive play, he’s a top scoring center, which are rarer than top scoring wingers.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s more like, Hanley Ramirez then? positional value and all that.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Jose Reyes? I guess it depends on how high you are on Hanley or Jose. But not how high you are, in general.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was going to say Utley, but he’s older now. Reyes works, if he had a 9 year extension for $5mil per year.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

$5M/year is a very high hockey salary.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why Smyth is almost guaranteed a way out.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

and why he’s Hanley.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he apparently wants back to Edmonton.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alberta can fight over Capt. Canadia for all I care.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If in 2007 I thought I could trade Kershaw for Barry Bonds, and that would make me a bonafide title contender, I’d do it. I think this move makes them very, very strong.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

And for years too. Richards is 26 and putting 60+ points up. Him and Kopitar are one heck of a 1-2 punch.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schenn’s ceiling was Mike Richards. We got Mike Richards.

by Alex41592 on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

I like the move.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jun 23, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I completely see this line of thinking. The trade makes sense, but they are out three chips. I still wonder if they couldn’t have gotten more (i.e. another usable player like a 4th line winger) or given up a lesser player or draft pick to go with. I’d have expected more like Schenn+Simmonds+5th. I’m probably just quibbling over the small details. This trade definitely makes them better now and for the foreseeable future.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love it

I literally have no idea who they are

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Alex Gordon was supposed to be George Brett

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Gamel for the Brewers was supposed to be a bad ass.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Jon Heyman on potential trade pieces

Kuroda and Lilly come in at $5 and #6 on his list. Of course, it is Heyman so…lol at his comments.

5. Hiroki Kuroda, Dodgers SP. It’s probably premature to consider any of the L.A. pitchers yet. But if the Dodgers slip further, there’s a treasure trove of veteran pitchers, starting with Kuroda, whose expiring contract may actually be seen as a plus. Very solid pitcher (5-8, 3.07 ERA this year).

6. Ted Lilly, Dodgers SP. Gutsy lefthander who gets a lot out of his ability and would draw interest if available. Having his typical year (5-6, 4.26), and his $33 million, three-year deal is fair.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Please take Lilly away from us.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last pitcher with two and a half years on his deal to move at the trade deadline was…

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Penny?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He got extended as soon as we got him. Not sure what his service time was before that.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

even better

about 80% of the life of his contract

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin Brown?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Weaver in the same deal?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t that in the off season?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah – good point

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chan Ho Park from Texas to somewhere

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

1.5 years left.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brown’s trade was before Brad Penny, wasn’t it?

by Tripon on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Javier Vazquez signed a 3 year deal with the white sox in 07 then got traded to the braves in dec 08.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not mid season.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What games have been day games?

Does anybody have a list of day games so far this season for the Dodgers? I know the total amount but need to know which games were day games.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Eric did this in the game thread yesterday. Take a look and you will find it.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

i see it

i kinda need to know which games were day games. I was hoping i could find a schedule with the times the game started but not having any luck.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

dodgers.com/schedule or when you click on the box scores, it should show you the start time at the bottom

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, now that is a pickle that I will not get involved in again.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you look under the tab

“Schedule” you can get a download version that gives you the schedule in a excel file where you can get all the games, start times, etc.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

start times are usually 11am, 1pm, 5pm or 7pm local time. 5 is a night game, anything prior is a day game.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball-Reference has the game time at the top of each box score, but if you have a media guide or a pocket schedule handy that is the best quick way.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric..

you said in your thread yesterday that there have been 23 day games..was this before or including yesterdays game?

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 23, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

24 of 76? I want to own the Dodgers and make all non-Sunday games universally night games and Sunday games start at 5pm.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spoken like a true Bud Selig.

Short term gain without thought for long-term ramifications.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

but it’d be worth millions. Plus, if we never have Sunday afternoon games, we never have house lineups or god bless america.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

so that means 24 as of right now..i have 23 on my spreadsheet and I can’t find out where I’m off a game..

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait..

I think I found it,…i was missing may 14th..a 4 pm game at Dodger stadium

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 23, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

NICE

and my statistics match up now..thank you for telling me about the schedule exported into excel

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 23, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

you don't need to ask :)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did he just no-hit the Twins? Haha

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. But 12K through 7 IP.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

is he playing in the BCBL?

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

that twins lineup is ... definitely a day getaway game lineup...

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just need the scoring to a minimum in that game…..

I like 2-1 Minn…..

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

see above

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by underdog on Jun 23, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just got this note
You will automatically be upgraded to New Twitter very, very soon.

GFY!

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

do you have a twitter account?

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

A very boring one, yes.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

nevermind

I found you and am now stalking ……er following

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to start tweeting and realized everything I had to say was mean spirited but funny as hell. So I’ve never hit the trigger.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that is right up my alley.

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

all my tweets would be WTF stuff.

not like horribly, just in a “why would you have that thought?” way

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can only make Twitter better.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m shocked that none of you have protested my “funny as hell”. As in you aren’t funny here why would you be funny on Twitter.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because we find you funny

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with it.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

delias man and michael white used to be quality follows

MW never says anything anymore

delias man used to bring it, now he just tweets about lame ass soccer shit that no one cares about

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

lame ass soccer shit huh?

what would you rather read? something like “oh no here comes macdougal! get me a barf bag noooooo!!!!”

by delias man on Jun 23, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to hear your thoughts on Jeremiah Weed

by Josie Becker on Jun 23, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evan Longoria

WTF happened? .226/.325/.396

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Oblique injury’s are a bitch?

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

His value is down! Lets trade for him

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

sucks to be a 3rd baseman, just ask David Wright

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can he ask Casey Blake, or does Blake play 3rd anymore?

:)

by keithc13 on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hes looking more like a bench coach.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hurt himself in a freak jumping from a helicopter incident

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those are the worst.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dr. Romano isn’t impressed.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he got his hat

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should trade for Hanley Ramirez

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

do we put him at 3rd?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, Dee has to run like the wind in Florida

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES! He is terrible at SS

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like taking speedy SS’s and turning them into 3rd baseman. When has that ever worked? I’m moving him to 1st base:)

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

30/30 from your 1st baseman? Oh man.. MVP for sure.

That AROD guy never lived up to expectations. His thighs did however.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Won’t have to worry about a place to put Dee Gordon if we get HanRam

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of ___Ram nicknames

Those probably end when baseball gets its first Asdrubal Ramirez, right?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see Steiner let out a accidental “AssRam”

Rubal Ram sounds kinda cool.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would just call him Manly Hanley.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re just on a roll with names aren’t you?

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hemi kind of sounds like Hanley, too.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

or if Dave’s daughter marries a dude named Ramirez and they name their first son after grandpops, Dave’s grandson could be El Lay Ram

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

not worried about it like that

reading the scouts saying they believe a position change is in order for him

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

we put him at second

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

More valuable?

.367/.477/.578 shortstop
.299/.355/.700 catcher

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

That first line looks pre 1920s

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The SS

OBP more valuable that slugging with equal OPS.
The SS needs less days off than tne C.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I figured

It’s just that the media gets a boner at the sight of a power hitting catcher.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to go out on a limb and say any catcher/baseball player period who has a slug% of .700 is going to have an OB% > .400 just because you simply don’t pitch to him.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that is true 100% of the time - only 33 seasons of a .700 Slug%

Player OBP SLG Year AB HR RBI BB IBB OPS Pos
Barry Bonds .609 .812 2004 373 45 101 232 120 1.422 *7/D
Barry Bonds .582 .799 2002 403 46 110 198 68 1.381 *7/D
Ted Williams .553 .735 1941 456 37 120 147 0 1.287 *7/9
Babe Ruth .545 .764 1923 522 41 131 170 0 1.309 97/83
Babe Ruth .532 .847 1920 458 54 137 150 0 1.379 *978/31
Barry Bonds .529 .749 2003 390 45 90 148 61 1.278 *7/D
Ted Williams .526 .731 1957 420 38 87 119 33 1.257 *7
Babe Ruth .516 .737 1926 495 47 146 144 0 1.253 *79/3
Barry Bonds .515 .863 2001 476 73 137 177 35 1.379 *7/D
Babe Ruth .513 .739 1924 529 46 121 142 0 1.252 *97/8
Babe Ruth .512 .846 1921 540 59 171 145 0 1.359 *78/13
Babe Ruth .495 .700 1931 534 46 163 128 0 1.195 *97/3
Babe Ruth .493 .732 1930 518 49 153 136 0 1.225 *97/1
Rogers Hornsby .489 .756 1925 504 39 143 83 0 1.245 *4
Frank Thomas .487 .729 1994 399 38 101 109 12 1.217 *3D
Babe Ruth .486 .772 1927 540 60 164 137 0 1.258 *97
Lou Gehrig .474 .765 1927 584 47 175 109 0 1.240 *3
Lou Gehrig .473 .721 1930 581 41 174 101 0 1.194 *3/7
Mark McGwire .470 .752 1998 509 70 147 162 28 1.222 *3
Jimmie Foxx .469 .749 1932 585 58 169 116 0 1.218 *35
Mark McGwire .467 .730 1996 423 52 113 116 16 1.198 *3D
Lou Gehrig .465 .706 1934 579 49 165 109 0 1.172 *3/6
Mickey Mantle .464 .705 1956 533 52 130 112 6 1.169 *8
Babe Ruth .463 .709 1928 536 54 142 137 0 1.172 *97
Jimmie Foxx .462 .704 1938 565 50 175 119 0 1.166 *3
Player OBP SLG Year AB HR RBI BB IBB OPS Pos
Rogers Hornsby .459 .722 1922 623 42 152 65 0 1.181 *4
Larry Walker .458 .710 1999 438 37 115 57 8 1.168 *9/D
Hack Wilson .454 .723 1930 585 56 191 105 0 1.177 *8
Larry Walker .452 .720 1997 568 49 130 78 14 1.172 *9/38D
Stan Musial .450 .702 1948 611 39 131 79 0 1.152 *987/3
Jimmie Foxx .449 .703 1933 573 48 163 96 0 1.153 *3/6
Sammy Sosa .437 .737 2001 577 64 160 116 37 1.174 *9
Al Simmons .423 .708 1930 554 36 165 39 0 1.130 *7/8

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

No catchers so if you find one with a .700 Slug you can bet I’d boner up.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you go from 500 PA to 400 you get three more seasons but still no one below .400 OB

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arky Vaughn

Had the greatest single offensive year as a SS – .385/.491/.607, he walked 97 times and struck out 18

A-Rod’s switch to 3B (plus his admission to using PEDs) will certainly cloud his claim as the greatest offensive SS in MLB history but he had 5 of the top 8 qualified best OPS seasons.

Nomar’s injuries curtailed a potential HOF career as a SS as he had two of the top 5 OPS seasons as a SS.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Parkman?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amazingly I forget just how great Babe was

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Babe vs. Kershaw. Talk about a dream match.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Babe vs. Billingsley

Babe pitching, Billingsley hitting.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Babe

is the only pitcher on that list

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait until Billz finishes the season…

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do we make of Babe’s high career BABIP?

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Played against drunken longshoreman with gardening gloves. Almost all the high BABIPs are from that era.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take it they didn't track IBBs

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

must not have

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

In those days, IBBs were only for wusses. Old Hoss Radbourn would never IBB a guy.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

An intentional walk to Ol’ Hoss Radbourn was plunking the batter in the head.

by fbihop on Jun 23, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other note

other then Barry Bonds, Frank Thomas, PED Sosa, that is one white list.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mostly pre-integration. I’m not sure what the issue is.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No issue, just sometimes I forget how high the slug% were of the great hitters before integration and introduction of night baseball, sliders and so forth.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. The nicknames were better too. Bucketfoot and The Rajah scoff at all the X-BLAHs of today.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 out of 15 names.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is not PED Bonds on there?

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

His highest career slug pre roids is a miserable .677.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I took out post integration and tainted years, would be a tiny tiny list.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

List this

Rk Player OBP SLG Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OPS Pos
4 Ted Williams .526 .731 1957 38 BOS AL 132 546 420 96 163 28 1 38 87 119 33 43 5 0 2 11 0 1 .388 1.257 *7
6 Frank Thomas .487 .729 1994 26 CHW AL 113 517 399 106 141 34 1 38 101 109 12 61 2 0 7 15 2 3 .353 1.217 *3D
9 Mickey Mantle .464 .705 1956 24 NYY AL 150 652 533 132 188 22 5 52 130 112 6 99 2 1 4 4 10 1 .353 1.169 *8
10 Larry Walker .458 .710 1999 32 COL NL 127 513 438 108 166 26 4 37 115 57 8 52 12 0 6 12 11 4 .379 1.168 *9/D
11 Larry Walker .452 .720 1997 30 COL NL 153 664 568 143 208 46 4 49 130 78 14 90 14 0 4 15 33 8 .366 1.172 *9/38D
12 Jeff Bagwell .451 .750 1994 26 HOU NL 110 479 400 104 147 32 2 39 116 65 14 65 4 0 10 12 15 4 .368 1.201 *3/9
13 Stan Musial .450 .702 1948 27 STL NL 155 694 611 135 230 46 18 39 131 79 0 34 3 1 0 18 7 0 .376 1.152 *987/3
14 Albert Belle .438 .714 1994 27 CLE AL 106 480 412 90 147 35 2 36 101 58 9 71 5 1 4 5 9 6 .357 1.152 *7/D

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Williams at 38 years old is just silly shit awesoke

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always like Larry Walker, but I kind of feel like he should get excluded to because of his extreme performance enhancing ballpark.

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by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bagwell, Belle and Thomas had whispers too even before the McEra. Walker is at least tainted by Coorstosterone. So your list would be Williams, Mantle. 1948 is still before baseball was even close to full integration.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only suspicion around those guys are that they were good.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why Bagwell is in the Hall of Fame? There were definitely insinuations.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, there really weren’t.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you realize both the audacity and dickishness of your comment.

In the early ’90s, everyone knew about steroids. The voices relative to Jose Canseco by 1988 had put the buzz out there. The biggest difference between 1991 whispers and 2001 whispers is that the former was kept out of the mass media and by the latter, the accusations were flung freely.

Anybody who had a dramatic improvement (i.e. win RoY straight out of AA) was immediately accused of steroids. It was not just Canseco. Tracy Jones was a fine skinny ballplayer in Hawthorne in the early-80’s. In between high school and replacing Pete Rose, he put on 30 pounds of muscle, went from mild-mannered to aggressive and bragged to his friends (including my uncle) that he had hit the weights and found nutritional supplements, which he would talk about with a wink.

There were guys juicing at that time and there were plenty of accusers.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, so cite a better source than your uncles friends that Bagwell or the Hurt was roiding.

I mean, they probably were, but there’s just as much evidence against them as anyone else.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whereas you saying “Nobody ever accused anybody” is a better source?

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s hard to cite something that didn’t exist.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The internet doesn’t catalog 1991 the same way it does 2001. The mass media was not the same in 1991 as it was in 2001. Being cavalier doesn’t make you right. I do not have a source and I don’t care to check through microfiche to find one, that does not make me wrong.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

When all you’ve got is hearsay from a third hand source it doesn’t make you right either.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It sure seems to make him smug though!

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

When we’re talking about hearsay, it does.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how this means this proves your point. Sure plenty like the Boone’s of the world changed, but Frank Thomas came into the world looking like a monster and left the same way. Of anyone during his era they usually said “other then Frank Thomas”.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never heard a whisper about Frank. I was going to remove Walker but you can do that with your minds. Yes, 1948 is close, but the Williams year is still pure glory

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Williams at age 38 still hadn’t had a black teammate.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pumpsie Green was still waiting his turn.

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got his run for the last season and one half of Ted’s career. Didn’t know until I saw his wiki that his brother is Cornell Green, an ex-NFLer whose name I recognized.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither in the field or in war

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine the collective boner (even the gynocracy) would have if we had a 24-year old putting up Mantle’s season.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats what everyone will be expecting of Bryce Harper.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized I left out “TBLA” right after “boner”. Can’t believe I was that distracted by a boner.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So silly of him to take roids

oh well

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he wouldn’t have he would have been only barely better than Ted Williams.

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by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just laugh and shake my head at this

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ego is a helluva drug.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

From 1958

to 1993, not a single player had a .700 or higher slugging pct (qualified).

From 1994-2004 the lowest leading slugging pct. in baseball was Albert Belle’s .690, the only other year where the leader did not top .700 was in 2000 when Todd Helton topped all batters with a .698 slugging pct.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or

E)

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson!!!! YES!

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Was there a story about Clairol products killing people?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nats GM Mike Rizzo, understandably unhappy:

“I learned of Jim’s decision just prior to today’s game. He told me that unless his current contract was extended for another season by the end of today’s game he intended to immediately resign as manager and would not be accompanying the team on the scheduled road trip to play the Chicago White Sox.

“I believe, and I told Jim, decisions as important as this must be made thoughtfully and methodically. I was not willing to make judgments of that magnitude in the course of a nine inning game.

“I talked to Jim before the season and have emphasized since that no decision would be made on his extension until after the end of the season. I am surprised and disappointed, personally, and am even more disappointed for our players and fans. I was always taught that one of the cardinal rules of baseball was that no individual can put his interests before those of the team.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

what a jerkoff

Good luck getting another job.

by Joey Joe on Jun 23, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

There has to be more to this

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 23, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw this note in a story re Rockies and I found it funny it omitted the most important part of this small tidbit

MLB.com story

George Frazier, color analyst for Root Sports broadcasts of Rockies games and a former Major League pitcher, will play in the Old Timers Game on Sunday at Yankee Stadium, before that afternoon’s Rockies-Yankees contest. Frazier was a relief pitcher for the Yankees in the 1981 World Series.

They forgot to add he was the second pitcher to ever lose 3 games in a single World Series (unintentionally since Lefty Williams lost 3 games in the 1919 World Series)

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

He was my favorite October pitcher for a long long while

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

404 error

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

really? my bad I dont know then, just got to TMZ if interested. Basically Ron Artest wants to legally change his name to Metta World Peace and wants Peace on the back of his jersey next season.

by uschris0304 on Jun 23, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

worked for me
Ron Artest: I’m Changing My Name … RADICALLY

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Square Root Artest?

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by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

A poor man’s World B. Free

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better choice, World B Free flows easily.

Soon they will be chanting Peace of Shit, not a good choice for a guy who plays in front of rabid fans and is quickly watching his skills deteriorate

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

that picture is great

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

must’ve been a work comp thing. It works at home

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter is 1 – 7 on a team in 2nd place.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Johnny Cueto should kick him again.

by kinbote on Jun 23, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

NFL Labor: This will make some on this board happy

http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/83235781786869760

More at ESPN: If and when agreement is reached, all players with 4, 5 and 6 years of service are expected to be unrestricted free agents.

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Is Andre Johnson signed?

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

For 8 years

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming this deal gets done

The free agent signings/rumor mill is going to be a shitstorm.

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by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

CURSE YOU HASHBANGS

I will best you one day….

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

In tracking active leaders

Baseball Reference uses 3000 PA as the minimum.

In 1990, who was the active leader in slugging with a career average at that time .520?

Also fun note, between 1961-2000, the active leader in slugging was not over .600 (Ted Williams retired in 1960 and it wasn’t until Todd Helton went over .600 after the 2000 season, did the active leader go back over .600)

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Mike Schmidt?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

he retired after a nice run as the active leader. I will add this player was only the active leader in that year.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andre Dawson?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 23, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

but you are in the right division

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strawberry?

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jun 23, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Jose Cansesco was the leader in 1991 for a year and then it moved on.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since when are the Mets in the same division as the Cubs?

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

in 1990 Andre was a a Cub and had been since 1987

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh never mind, now I get it. I’m thick.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

stupid expansion

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

stupid expansion

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Davis

Worried about the 3000 PA’s

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good guess, here was his total stats as of the end of that season - 1990

2983 PA .272/.364/.522

After 1991, he dropped to .509, Jose was at .519, and then Eric was never above .500 for a career slugging for the rest of his career.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am sure this is emptiest .423 average in history
Dodgers
June Bloom: Aaron Miles leads the NL with a .423 batting avg. this month #Dodgers

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

is that a screenshot from Sister Act 2?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd have gone with

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Pierre

is bad at baseball:

.253/.313/.295
10 SB, 9 CS

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

His defense in LF isn’t that bad :)

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heard Ibanez is #1 on low OPS list. (Pierre #2)

by kinbote on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also bad at baseball:

The Giants:

41-34
run differential: -8

by Joey Joe on Jun 23, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitching scoffs at Pythag

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are World Champions
They are probably going to win the division again

Calling them bad at baseball based on pythag seems to focus a little to much on the algorithm and not on the playing of the game.

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by meercatjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

they've scored the fewest runs in the major leagues

If their offense doesnt improve, they will not win the division.
Arizona or Colorado will

by Joey Joe on Jun 23, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

also last year Giants were great

Their X/WL was 95-67.

This year the offense is historic bad levels

by Joey Joe on Jun 23, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be pissed if they win the division 5 more times in the next 5 years

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by nolander on Jun 23, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m glad we’re at the point in the season where TSL are no longer SSS.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lookouts aren’t helping Webster at all…

by Julio Nievas on Jun 23, 2011 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Only 1 K in his last 7 innings.

by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

1057 comments

on an off day….bad day for Comcast internet to go on the fritz.

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by Pure Azure on Jun 23, 2011 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Shows exactly what we have to do on an off day.

Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 23, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I aspire to a job

where I can just goof of for hours on the internet all day…oh wait, I “work” from home.

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by Pure Azure on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes we look at 2003 and say how frustrating a year that was to watch

Really, in the second half, the pitching could not keep up with a pace of allowing 3 runs a game (actually at this time in 2003, the Dodgers had 42+ run differential and were 13 games above .500. They ended up with a 18+ run differential and a 8 games above .500.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

who's watching

the NBA draft?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

me

seeing if the Lakers make a move tonight

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by Pure Azure on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

same here

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

would you do

Odom for Iguadola? I would, I don’t know the contract numbers though.

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by Pure Azure on Jun 23, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iggy is owed some cash, like $44m

I like Odom a lot, but Lakers do need to get younger. I’m on the fence. Wouldn’t mind getting rid of Walton though. I don’t hate him, he just contributes very little

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mitch's worst contract

I don’t know what he was thinking there with Luke…a stalwart at SF for the pre-Gasol years? LOL

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by Pure Azure on Jun 23, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would. I don’t think Philly will though.

by VegasBlues on Jun 23, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

word is

they want to move him to clear his contract

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cavs take

Kyrie Irving #1 overall

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

How tall is he? 6’3

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't know

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw him speak for a few seconds, he looks about an inch taller than the reporter on the floor.

by NotJoeTorre on Jun 23, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing he won’t be called Dr. K.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

T-Wolves take

Derrick Williams #2

I’m doing this for you Julio, BTW

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you name the last 5

Number one overall NBA picks to be on a NBA Championship team and only one did not do it on the team that drafted him.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Tyson Chandler is the #1 who didn’t go with the team who picked him.

Other guesses: tim duncan, shaq, david robinson, hakeem, worthy.

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by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyson Chandler was 2nd overall behind Kwame Brown.

Shaq is the one the went with a team that didn’t draft him. I believe all your other guesses fit the criteria, just don’t know if they are the among the last five. The five may be your five “other guesses”.

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by David Young on Jun 23, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i always mess up the chandler thing

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 23, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derrick Williams goes from the warmth of California and Arizona

to Minnesota, who might not win as many games as his alma mater in 2012.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2011 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

they might be trading him

for a Vet

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 23, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

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