Topgear series: Angel Preview
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:01 AM PDT
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PrintManager - Mike Scoscia (37 -39) Career (1017 - 841) .547 Winning %, One World Championship
Current Status - The Angels have struggled to a 37 -39 record, however due to parity in the AL West they find themselves only three games back from the division leading Texas Rangers. The Angels endured a six game losing streak in early June but have won their last two series, both coming in interleague play. So far in interleague play they are 6 - 3. They have had to turn to rookies at key positions 1st, C, CF, Starting Pitching, and closing. These kids are helping and hurting but without them they would be in deep trouble. They are 10th out of 14 in wRC (95), for perspective the Red Sox lead with 121, the Mariners are last with 80. The strength of the team has been the rotation where they rank second in WAR. The infield has more then held their own, the outfield is where the lack of offense has been hurting the team. All the salary is in the outfield and yet they have produced a paltry portion of the offense.
DL - Kendrys Morales, Fernando Rodney
Position Players:
1st Base - Mark Trumbo: They had expected Morales to play this year but he's done so the rookie Trumbo has had to step up and he has done so. He's been remarkably consistent, posting an OPS+ of 118 overall. His name should get mentioned when they discuss ROY if he keeps this up. Almost league average production from a rookie 1st baseman is more then the Angels could have expected from someone who struck out so much in the minor leagues.
2nd Base - Howie Kendrick: Is tied for Cano for best offensive 2nd baseman with a 138 wRC. For the first time in his career Howie is putting together the offensive season that many expected from him when he first burst upon the prospect scene. Average, OB, Power, he's doing it all this year, while also providing solid defense. His TSL is .305/.362/.481.
ShortStop - Erick Aybar: sits right in the middle of the pack for AL SS. He's solid.
3rd Base - Maicer Izturis: Mighty Maicer might better fit into the role of super utilityman but going forward I expect him to get the majority of starts at 3rd base. Maicer can play anywhere, and produce both defensively and offensively when he does. His current OPS+ of 118 is the best of his career and will probably drop the more he plays.
Catcher - Hank Conger / Jeff Mathis : Jeff Mathis continues to be one of worst offensive players in baseball with an OPS+ of 44. Hack Conger on the other hand can hit a little. What jumps out at you with Conger is his 18% walk rate in June.
UtilityMan - Alberto Callaspo
RF - Torii Hunter: is having a bad year and an extremely bad June. His overall OPS+ is 96, in June he has an OPS of .578. Hunter is banged up and may not play giving the Angels a spot to put the DH Abreu.
CF - Peter Bourjos: the best defensive center fielder in baseball may not hit enough to keep his job. He's actually hitting better then Wells or Hunter but they are not going to bench those guys when Mike Trout comes calling. He's another in the line of defensive first speedy center fielders like Carlos Gomez.
LF - Vernon Wells:: is dreadful but his bat has shown signs of life in June. Three of the nine worst hitters in the AL this year are Vernon Wells, Chone Figgins, and Alexis Rios. They make a combined 44 Million Dollars. Wells brings in 23 of that. Think of that, and yet they traded for him by giving up a functional offensive player.
DH - Bobby Abreu: he continues to get on base, even steal bases, his once functional power is gone. That OB however still plays as he only one of five qualified (150 PA) in the AL to have an OB north of .400.
Bench -
Pitching Matchups:
Win Prob and Over/Under provided by Dodger Sims
| Pitchers | TripleStateLine | WinProb | Over/Under | |
| Dan Haren vs Rubby De La Rosa | 2.99 / 2.66 / 3.04 / |
Angels 54.83% | 6.72 | |
| Tyler Chatwood vs Hiroki Kuroda | 3.84 / 4.51 / 4.79 |
Dodgers 56.10% | 7.27 | |
| Jered Weaver vs Clayton Kershaw | 2.01 / 2.49 / 3.42 |
Dodgers 53.17% |
5.73
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Everyone knows how good Haren and Weaver are so I'm only going to talk about the rookie Tyler Chatwood. On the surface Chatwood appears to be having a great rookie season but underlying the ERA are some real dismal peripherals. Yet he's a rookie with very few professional innings, and his stuff does look like it could play, so maybe he will grow into the role. It is possible that as his numbers normalize he simply starts learning how to pitch at the major league level. I can see some regression but I'm not sure it will be as large as some anticipate. So how about those peripherals.
Here is the Baseball HQ Analysis done on June 23rd:
6/23/2011 - Chatwood: Not what it seems ... Things seem to be going swimmingly for Tyler Chatwood (RHP, LAA). Called up to the bigs barely a week into the season, Chatwood has made 15 starts, and that sub-4.00 ERA makes it seem like he should be due more than just his total of four wins.
Year IP ERA xERA Ctl Dom Cmd H% S% hr/f hr/9 BPV ==== === ==== ==== === === === == == ==== ==== === 2011 82 3.84 5.36 4.6 4.7 1.0 29 75 7% 0.7 -19In reality, Chatwood is lucky to have four wins, as this is a skill set in need of more Triple-A refinement:
- His 4.7 Dom is far below what is necessary for prolonged MLB success. In fairness, his 2010 MLE of 4.4 (in 74 IP) gave us fair warning.
- Perhaps more troubling is his 4.6 Ctl: though 82 IP, he's struck out only one more batter than he's walked (43 K / 42 BB).
- He's done this honestly, for the most part: H%/S% is fine at 29%/75%, he's only be slightly fortunate with a 7% hr/f.
- xERA is a full run and a half higher than his ERA; a -19 BPV gives very little hope for an immediate improvement.
At this point in his professional career, Chatwood has logged more innings in the majors (82) than Double-A and Triple-A combined (74). Given his poor BPI, he really does need more work before fanalytic owners can count on him--but given his "success," that's not coming anytime soon. Our best advice: bail on Chatwood now; the ugliness could begin at any time.
One thing to note on Tyler. He's only 21. His stat line reminded me of a 21 year old Chad Billingsley who only managed a 5.8 walk rate and a 5.9 K rate his first year in the major leagues. In June Tyler has a xFIP of 4.03, and has improved his K rate upward and walk rate downward. I'm not nearly as pessimistic as Baseball HQ on his near term future. He was thrown into a deep pool in April, he survived, and now might be learning how to swim. He sports a 93 MPH fastball to go with his curveball and change up.
Bullpen:
Closer - Luckily for the Angels they had fireballing Jordan Walden to step into the breech when Rodney failed once again as a closer. Walden is elite and he's getting better the more the pitches. In June he has yet to allow a run, he has a K Rate of 14 and walk rate of 2. He's the real deal and shows what you might get when you convert that hard throwing minor league prospect into a short inning stud.
Setup - Hisanori Takahashi is the workhouse in the bullpen, along with Scott Downs I can't imagine two better left handed relief pitchers. Andre and Loney will probably not be factors after the seventh inning.
Tough matchup for the Dodgers this weekend having to face both Weaver and Haren. However we do have Kershaw going against Weaver so if we have to win another no hitter, so be it. The Dodgers must win on Saturday and I expect them to. The Dodgers are terrible against the AL, the Angels are not. The Angels may be forced to stick Abreu in the outfield to get his bat in the game. That would allow for some Huff like work out there, and one thing you can say about this Dodger team, the defense of their opponents likes to give them games. Heck our two best offensive weapons this year have been Matt Kemp and the other teams defense.
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It will be 1/2 that:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Lowest of the year so far
From Vegas is…
5/21 Seattle vs San Diego (Pineda vs Richard) 5.6 runs, Seattle won 4-0
(Sim was 5.86 for that game)
From my simulator is…
5/22 Seattle vs San Diego (Hernandez vs Stauffer) 5.26 runs, Seattle won 6-1
(Vegas was 5.9 for that game)
Will be interesting to see how far below 6 runs Vegas will take the over/under. Chances are it will be 6 runs with vig penalizing the under bettors. I have a way to convert that to 10ths of a run.
I know some people here are into baseball cards
so I had to reference this article about Topps Big
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
so did the author of that article
can’t say I blame you.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Conger was getting most of the starts early in the year
then went into an abysmal slump. He seems to have come out of it, but thats likely why Mathis has gotten so many starts. That and Scoiscia loves him for no apparent reason.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Yep, when I checked on him a couple weeks ago he wasn’t much better than Mathis. Must have been a good two weeks.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine two weeks has changed the OPS by 30 something points. The only thing Conger has done this month is walk, he’s not really hitting.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
He wasn’t at Mathis’ level, but he would have been right at home on the Dodgers.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
he still isn't doing great looking at the numbers
but he is doing better, and is at least average in june, which is more then you can say for mathis
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
He hasn't homered since may 1st
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
The walk rate is masking his offensive production, but getting on base is kind of important
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
/Peter Brand
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently Conger can’t throw to second, which is kind of important
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Matt Kemp got yelled at when Russell Martin couldn’t throw to 2nd. Apparently, it is only important when you can yell at somebody for it.
by Tripon on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve found both to be stupidly entertaining, low expectations, big screen goofiness.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I liked the first a lot actually
I found it to be really funny for some reason. The 2nd tried way too hard and was… a little racist, but the action was better. Not sure what to expect from the 3rd one since its a new scriptwriter. Oh thats right, its Michael BAy and giant robots.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I always figured those of you who played with Transformers would love them or hate them, those of us who didn’t were simply looking for entertainment. Same as when they make a book I’m partial to compared to making a movie about a book I never read.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I think one problem
is that people forget it was a saturday morning cartoon that was made as a long from toy advertisement(the toys existed first!). So then people get upset when its goofy like a saturday morning cartoon and has lots of product placement. DOH! I was just happy the CG was so amazing.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I have an bias against 3D movies in general, and the trailers for 3 just look dumb. In particular the new super model girlfriend walking though a battlefield that would KILL HER.
BRING THE RAIN
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Same for me
especially for the first one. I had no intentions to see that movie, but my nephew convinced me to watch, and it blew away my nonexistent expectations. The second one was just okay, but I knew what to expect going in.
That said, I have low expectations for the third one.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Although I have no interest in those movies at all and Transformers 2 was so ludicrously bad that
Michael Bay even sort of apologized for how bad it was, have to say of the three, the trailer for the third makes it look like an improvement imho. Has better people in and behind it and seems a little less stupid. That said… I still have no interest in watching it except maybe on cable late one night.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
am I going to like Inception? I get it tomorrow
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If you pretend you hadn't heard anything about it
you probably will. I liked it but it ain’t flawless. But very creative and visionary in style and concept. Wonder how it will play on the TV screen…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yesterday from 2:30 to midnight I was lucky/crazy enough to go on a ride along with a couple badasses from the Compton Sheriff’s Department. One of the craziest days of my life, including going like 120 on city streets in response to this- I saw a dead dude.
things I did not know
- Tritia Toyota, of “(I’m Stuck in a Pagoda with) Tricia Toyota” fame, stopped working as a news anchor in 1999 having never taken another anchor job after leaving KCBS and is now an adjunct assistant professor in anthropology, Asian-American studies and the media at UCLA.
- Her real (birth) name is Letritia R. Miyake. (No, her husband’s name wasn’t Toyota either.)
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by David Young on Jun 24, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, wonder why she gave up the gig. These anchors usually eventually end up working for every station it seems
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rii8LTPCbE
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Fangraphs Runs Created
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want to get banned, but I strongly dislike those Fangraphs box scores. Messes with some Platonic ideals I have in my head, along with a twice folded sports page to peruse the standings.
The time-honored “what’s more convenience to read while dropping a deuce” system
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Things that sound greater in theory than they would be in practice: a drop-down bathroom laptop shelf.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Can't stand the Fangraphs box scores either
by The Dude Abides on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I like them, but mostly because I don’t have a lawn.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never viewed a Fangraph box score, now I’m frightened by what I might find.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
from last Lilly start
http://www.fangraphs.com/liveboxscore.aspx?date=2011-06-22&team=Dodgers&dh=0&season=2011
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
information overload
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Your nerd membership will be revoked?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Basically how important your at bats were. High pLI means you came up a lot with the bases filled or in a close game.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems interesting enough
oh look you went 2 for 3 but you came up with the bases empty and two outs so who cares.
oh look you went 0 for 4 and your at bats were really important. You suck, Uribe!
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
The LI stands for “Leverage Index”.
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by David Young on Jun 24, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
1.013 wOBA is the negative FIP of hitting.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
brain explodes
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone know the Dodgers v. Angels head-to-head record?
"Fast just got Faster"
Dodgers are 34-46 against the Dodgers
20-20 at Dodger Stadium
14-26 in Anaheim
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
that second “Dodgers” should be “Angels.”
That B was a typo
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of KCAL
You won’t get to hear Vin this weekend, as Fri/Sun are on Prime Ticket, and Saturday is on Fox. However, you will be able to see all three games, since the Fri/Sun Angels telecasts are on KCOP
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Matt Kemp seems to be the headline of MLB.com today but unable to get the link to work.How about you guys.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Kemp the sequel
better than original A year after appearing to squander his talent by going Hollywood, Matt Kemp is a Triple Crown threat.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
ugh
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
My translation without reading the article
Kemp got the “banging a hot celebrity” out of his system and is now focused on baseball and the results are showing.
"Fast just got Faster"
They are a bit fairer then that in the actual article
they talk more about the pressures of being in the public eye as much as he was last year because he was dating Riahanna then about him chasing fame or anything like that. Its actually a pretty good article overall.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I liked it, think Gurnick did a fine job.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would they take that down?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
In 2001, while playing in a High School All-Star Basketball tournament, Matt Kemp, along with four teammates, including Williams, were accused of raping a 19 year-old woman on January 20, 2002 at the Columbus, Ohio Hyatt hotel.456 The players were suspended from the team during the investigation.7 The woman did not press charges, and the district attorney opted to not pursue the matter due to a lack of evidence.8
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Because if you read the article, it claimed that he was with the party, but nowhere near the actual incident. Notice the wiki entry says nothing of this.
Then go edit yourself
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
edit it yourself
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I just read the articles that are still up and neither of them say that
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
unfortanetly 2 of the links aren't working
and the 3rd of 4 is behind a pay wall now
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I'm not seeing anything to substantiate your claim
it does say that he was one of the 3 accused of rape, and that there where two additional people in the room who where witnesses.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I did a fanpost on the original AP story back in the spring of 2010. I was chastised for bringing it up so I’m not going to bother to look it up. All charges were dropped, but as in any rape case involved big time athletes in this case the top high school basketball player who went eventually went to Duke, I’m always skeptical that someone didn’t get paid off to drop charges. Either way Kemp at worst a spectator who did nothing, at best a bogus charge. We will never know.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Excellent , thanks
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Some very good stuff
He showed up on the Dodgers radar by accident, according to White, who joined scout Mike Leuzinger at a tournament looking to see a hyped left-handed pitcher who never made it. White, however, liked the right fielder with the “baby fat,” was confident Kemp would make the switch from basketball and signed him for $130,000.
“To be honest, I was a little naive, but I did some research and figured he could play Division I basketball, but he wasn’t going to play in the NBA,” said White. “He was mid-range — not tall enough to be a big man and not small enough to be a ball handler. We drafted him and went to his home, met his mom and he signed quickly. But the first year, I would get a lot of voice messages — ’Don’t know about this Matt Kemp kid. Very long swing.’ He hit .240 that first year, one home run in the last game of the season, two stolen bases. That first year, he was homesick, miserable. The next year, he started to show he could be special.”
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish more teams did this with late round draft picks.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
out of 50 rounds?
I guess when the talent level drops off so precipitously after the first maybe
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
your last 20 picks could be all football and basketball guys who won’t make it who are athletic and strong who you could turn into baseball players. if one out of 40 (one player every other draft) works out, it’d be worth it, especially with how little those guys get for signing bonuses.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I think it should be decided partially by bonus money. For instance, Nate Nolavdi shouldn’t be considered a late rounder despite being picked 10th because he got a quarter mil to sign.
wasn't Buerle
like a 20 something round pick?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Pure new school lol
It would be tight, to be the first Dodger to do that
"Fast just got Faster"
That answers that question :)
“Everybody comes into the season wanting to be an All-Star,” Kemp said. “It’s something you dream about, to be in the Home Run Derby, playing at the top level with your favorite players, with your family there knowing that you’re living your dream and accomplishing those things. Hopefully it happens.”
emphasis mine
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the last paragraph too
“I just know that the longer he plays the game, the better he’s going to get,” said [Casey] Blake. “He probably still hasn’t reached his full maturity as far as baseball goes. I’m still learning, everyone is still learning. I hope he keeps pushing himself. If that’s the case, there really is no ceiling.”
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Justin Ruggiano
has a .977 OPS in 44 at bats. He better take a picture.
Kind of amazing the kind of production the Rays have gotten in short spurts from Fuld and Ruggiano. It would nice if Gywnn (Fuld) or the Aussie(Ruggiano) could have managed to get hot for at least one week. One day?
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2001 dodgers playing on espn classic. Ricky Henderson broke Ty Cobbs runs scored record.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jun 24, 2011 10:40 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Tonight would be a good time for Rubby to pitch like a Ruby
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He's gonna have the Angels seeing red
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Baseball HQ does a quick first impression of Rubby
However, it should be noted that he has been a vastly different pitcher as a starter and a reliever so far in the majors. As a reliever: 1.80 ERA, 1.8 Ctl, 9.0 Dom, 5.0 Cmd, 2.70 xERA, 133 BPV. As a starter: 5.52 ERA, 6.7 Ctl, 9.8 Dom, 1.5 Cmd, 4.02 xERA, 22 BPV.
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De La Rosa is one of the Dodgers’ better prospects (he received a 9E rating from BaseballHQ.com), and his skill history shows signs of that talent beginning to emerge. But there are legitimate concerns about whether he belongs in the L.A. rotation right now. He hasn’t gone beyond 5 IP in any of his starts, and has struggled badly with Cmd. He was drafted into starting as an injury fill-in for Jon Garland, and with Garland’s return date still indefinite, De La Rosa will probably get at least a few more starts. But unless his skills make a dramatic turnaround, you’d be best served waiting for a return to the bullpen.
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I think that means near elite level ceiling, but not a huge chance to actually reach that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Phil or anyone else who frequents Baseball HQ, do they have equivalencies for their ratings?
i.e. does a 9E rating have a lower equivalent, like a 8B or something? Or is that even useful to have more than one rating? I don’t know.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I hesitate to even add those anymore because I think they are kind of hooey, but it was their quote so I left it in. Suffice to say they think highly of Rubby.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it was
A- 90% chance
B- 70 % chance
C- 50% chance
D- 30% chance
E- 10% chance
and then:
10 HOF
9 Elite
8 All-star
7 Above average
6 average
Or something like that.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 24, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing Sands
is a 7D or 6C at this point.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
kind of a SSS for his Bullpen innings right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
If Rubby controls his fastball command, he’d be owning. Simple as that.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 24, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t say I agree with them. I mean, sure, Rubby needs to start pitching longer in games, but he’s just as likely to do that as anyone else available to start right now (Ely, Eveland, and the rest of the ABQ crew). At the very least until Garland gets back (which might be never, we don’t yet know), I think Rubby should be in the rotation unless he takes a dramatic turn for the worse.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember this is roto advice, so basically they are thinking that if Rubby does continue to only go five innings per start they might look elsewhere until Garland is ready. However you are right in that we don’t really have any other choice unless they roll with Eveland and I think Rubby would have to do much worse then he’s done for that to happen.
As for someone else yes this is all SSS which is why the article is titled First Impressions in which they review how prospect have done after a few weeks.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about the roto factor. Thanks.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I seriously forgot that Garland was on the team
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
It usually happens even when he’s healthy.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
There are a lot more than that. Just look at all the leagues! :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
There are too many of them, I’d really like it if they eliminated three.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
From the shear amount of data. I hit a huge snag when I found out it takes my computer 15 minutes to get through one day worth of material.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the perfect excuse to build a super computer!
or a server! Or both!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Yeah, I’m buying a desktop in the near future.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Appreciate it but I’ll pass :)
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
FYI
no one is currently sponsoring Matt Kemp’s B-R page.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
waiting for the $190 to go way down.
I think I paid $35 to sponsor Billingsley’s page
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Does an MVP rate go down:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
you're gonna have to pay
just like Frank next year
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Are you going to reserve it to add your Facebook link? :)
by Julio Nievas on Jun 24, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
No one likes being called a Geek or a Nerd simply because they like baseball statistics. What would be a flattering name?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
see my comment above
:-p
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
all the words I can think of just lead back to nerd or geek
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Sabre-nerd
where sabre invokes the sword as the nerd cuts a swatch through antique statistics as they continue the quest for the one true stat that will bring baseball to its knee’s.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Its a trap!
a trap filled with bad jokes about cake
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Until “hey check out my level 80 wizard” is a pickup line geekdom isn’t cool.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
If I said I talked to girls about pokemon and they were interested, would you believe me?
If you did, you are a fool.
fo(spelling?) geek is cool
real geek is not
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
this homegirl at my school
was wearing a tshirt featuring Mickey Mouse wearing glasses, that said Nerds Rock. The third in our group said she was glad geekdom was becoming cool.
I said are you fucking kidding me? It’s Minnie Mouse with glasses, until she starts reading Captain America that’s just pandering
by Josie Becker on Jun 24, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh I get to post this again
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I would go with Beck, but yeah.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing nerdy about that guy except that he wears glasses.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Thats the point!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Hey you can see Star Wars twice or something.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
and he plays Doctor Who, there isn’t even a proper American nerdy equivalent : )
by Josie Becker on Jun 24, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
oh Doctor. Let’s go explore the universe together. And you can teach me about what’s cool. And we an make out
by Josie Becker on Jun 24, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
TBLA has a T-Shirt ad of a very hot girl starting to take off her T-Shirt that reads Geek is Sexy with eyeglasses. I would not argue with her.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
On ESPN last night
they were pimping some new stat which was ERA + WHIP * 9 and then you take that number and subtract it from the league average.
A number over 5 was considered historically great. I think it was called PP something
this sounds dumb
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Was this Jim Bowden? He sure likes adding stuff.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Curt Schilling invented it
and by his new metric Pedro Martinez had the two greatest seasons by a MLB pitcher (since 1960) in 1999 and 2000. Sandy 1965 or so was way behind him and I guess pitchers from the golden era of the 60s get discounted cos league ERA was so low or something.
Anyway, Schilling is a fathead, you can check it out here.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Well if anything that gives the metric cred.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 24, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
it's such a silly stat
goes up there with OPSBIs
by Josie Becker on Jun 24, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, eh, one more thing, before I forget
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 11:16 AM PDT reply actions
Surpentine Surpentine
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Told ya
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah, I don’t care how hot you are, if you are that much of a character loser you are not attractive.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I've liked her in the things I've seen her in
she was good for the 10 minutes she was in Ghost Town.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I hate her characters so much in SNL that I’ve been unable to separate that from her movie roles.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Lucky for me I don't watch SNL
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
FYI - Update Baseball HQ Top 50
Does not include anyone who has played in the majors.
Trayvon 29
Webster 33
Lee 43
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
call me when his fip is less then 2
this 2.49 garbage just won’t cut it /sarcasm
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Why wouldn't Eovaldi be a real candidate to take Rubby's spot if he fails?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
After Rubby strikes out nine Angels tonight it will be a moot point
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Besides Matt Moore, who will be a top 10 prospect when this season is all said and done
Eovaldi is the clear No. 2 in the SL.
People. Don’t. Realize. This.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 24, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The only real answer to this is innings limitations.
by silverwidow on Jun 24, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
He threw about 95 last year
Rubby throw 110.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Against all odds
it seems I’m joining the ranks of the employed again. Now I can bitch about working rather than not working.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Congratulations, who is the lucky company?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
MPAA
Motion Picture Assoc. of America
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
That sounds cool.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks
its a project manager gig out in your neck of the woods
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Are you sure it's not the
PMPAA – given that it is in Phil’s “neck of the woods”?
And good luck.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Whatever happened with...
That Ethier photophobia incident? Did MLB decide not to punish him? just curious
he got a small fine
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
haha you gotta be kidding me… That must of been a Sweeney prank…. Like when all the rookies wore dresses after we won the division in 08
by uschris0304 on Jun 24, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Shit
this is awesome. Takes a while to get to the point about why it is awesome but when you get there, you will say Holy Shit.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally baseball related
Totally Dodger baseball history related
Totally related to today’s current events
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 24, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
oh man
I want to discuss it but people really need to read the whole thing without a spoiler. Oh grant.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
that was great
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Does he have any other godsons?
"Fast just got Faster"
That is the winningest win I have ever seen.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I am pissed this guy is not a dodger after vin told the story about the bloodlines and his godfather. I mean his grandpa runs the Dodger DR facility???
Yeah but his father worked(s) for the tigers
thats even more direct!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
So awsesome...
I really enjoyed this line and the photo that the link takes you to
Tommy Lasorda is an evil man, and an obvious practitioner of the dark arts, and he knows how to craft magic zygotes that turn into All-Star offensive catchers when no one expects it.
Wonder what foul mothed thing Tommy could have said to get that reaction from a little girl.
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jun 24, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It was non-verbal
She is totally repulsed by Tommy’s crotch.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
just noticed that everyone else towrds the front still has something to get signed
so maybe he got that reaction while signing for her…..“Here give me that fucking thing, shouldn’t you be in fucking school, where the fuck are your parents, who the fuck got you those fucking glasses….”
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jun 24, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He forced her
to give him her phone number
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
He didn't have a high opinion of her performance
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Avoid South Street Philly Cheesesteak place in Burbank
They nailed the bread, but they managed to make a cheesesteak sandwich flavorless.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Then I will assume
the one in DS sucks too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Soooo
Are we kicking some Angel ass this weekend or what? I dont care about our record, or the standings when we play the Angels, I just want to beat their ass. I hate them!!
why? Is he a Dodger fan or an Angel fan? In my world there can be only one… No love for the other side.
I know alot of people will disagree, especially the older school dodger fans. But for me personally, my hate for the Angels is as much as it is for the Giants. I really hate the Angels and their fans and I know they hate me. I hate the Giants too, but I dont live in SF and dont know many Giant fans or run into them often. I do know Angel fans, and see them sometimes, and they like to talk alot of shit. So I get excited when we play them, but only problem is they beat us alot. I sure how that starts to change, starting tonight!
I find it so much more satisfying when people hate me and I no feelings toward them whatsoever.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yeah, Angels fans are annoying sometimes when they try to assert that they were the original LA team because of the AAA team under the same name that has long since relocated or whatever, but other than that I don’t really mind the Angels.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 24, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I have never encountered one Angel fan who would like to think they were the first LA Team. Every Angel fan I know is embarrassed by the attempt by Moreno to make them the Los Angeles Angels. They are proud of being Orange County’s team and have no interest in being Los Angeles’s team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Absolutely correct
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
in 2005 my brother was in Zone playoffs for Pony and it was in Fullerton.. where the Hollywood Stars used to play. A lot of Angel fans were rocking a tee that looked like this Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
They were all really old, but they were fucking angry as all hell about it.
I have this one
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
My dad has one. Priceless.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Thing is that all the Angels fans I know think the whole Los Angels Angels thing is stupid too
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 24, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
We can enjoy the shirt together!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
There is a guy I umpire for that just hates me…and he acts like a child. I had the easiest interference call on him last night and he just acted like a douche
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 24, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I would hazard a guess that this is part of anger management classes, but that is just a wild-ass guess.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Getting people to hate you that you don’t care about is part of anger management classes? I missed that hour because they didn’t like the way I swung golf clubs.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I meant it the other way around
Having no feelings toward people that hate you. Not actively trying to get people to hate me.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Maybe they like talking shit about it because they know Dodger fans have such thin skin
I can’t believe how butthurt(ok thats I lie I can believe it because people are stupid) Dodger fans are over the Angels having won a WS. The Angels fans I know don’t give a shit about the Dodgers other then to rub it in Dodger fans faces when the Angels beat them. The teams don’t play in the same division, they don’t even play in the same league.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
If I'm being honest
most of the Angel hate seems to be out of jealousy of their recent success. Deal with it.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I hated the Angels way before they won a WS so thats doesnt apply to me. Is there a rule you can only hate, dislike, not care for teams in your own division or league?? Was that something ruled upon at the last SABR convention or something because I didnt get that memo. I just dont like the Angels, sorry
Angel fans are just snobby, arogant, pompous assholes. There I said it. I dont know if its because alot of them live in the OC and think they are all that, or if its because they won a WS. Whatever the reason is fuck it, I’ll hate them either way. Only Lakers and USC fans can act that way. Call me when Angels have doesnt something more the win one little itty bitty championship, awe how sweet.
u jelly?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
The reason I dislike the angels fans is because all the one’s I know, just are assholes. Although I do know a surplus amount of assholes.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If I didn't hang out here I could say that about Dodger fans
or pretty much any fanbase.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’ve been to 3 games at Angel Stadium..
2 NYY/LAA games.. The fans are dicks, but they were trying to combat to dickhead NYY fans.
Last years AS game was a complete shit talking fest.
If I had the time I would regale you with tales
from my experiences during our 2008 playoff run at Dodger stadium where Dodger fans where such dickhead to the opposing fans it ruined the experience FOR ME.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Dude you don’t gotta explain. I went as well and the fans were out of control. My brother and his buddy got shit thrown at them(crossfire I assume) I had to pull a guy off someone.. It was not fun. this was the Broxton/Stairs/GFY Victorino game
/fist bump
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Everyone is so polite now it is like a 180 degree change
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s easier to be polite when the seat next you have a 50% chance of being empty.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I heard. A few friends of mine went a couple of weeks ago and told me it was almost depressing in the stadium.
I was there against DET and it was eery
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 24, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
hides Weaver jersey
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm too lazy to reread your comments above right now(and busy to boot, why am I here!?)
but you have in the past argued the one team one sport thing
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Should be. But he can still bat so I wouldn’t be surprised if he actually DH’d a couple games if he’s not ready.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. If he’s not DL’d or ready yet.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohh I read that wrong. I read “when the team is” not “when is the team”
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting Monday through the 3rd of July. Twins and Angels.
by Alex41592 on Jun 24, 2011 3:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The first sentence is always great to see
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pitchers-outhitting-the-competition/
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Angels Lineup
Izturis 2b, Aybar SS, Abreu RF, Wells CF, Callaspo 3B, Kendrick lf, Trumbo 1b, Mathis C, Haren P
by Alex41592 on Jun 24, 2011 3:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
He also refuses to move Trumbo up
o well
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
oh shit
LOL. This is what happens when you have 4 good middle infielders. Too bad I can’t watch the game tonight /fume
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Which really should be true.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I can dig any amount of opposing Jeff Mathis.
Go Dodgers, Kings, and Lakers.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jun 24, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
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