Dodgers June In Review: Matt Kemp Reaches New Heights
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:01 AM PDT
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PrintWhile their owner was busy declaring bankruptcy, the Dodgers sank to the bottom of the division in June, with a 10-16 record. However, Matt Kemp had the best month of his career, and Clayton Kershaw continued his ascent to the top of the league. Who knows, maybe onw day we will look back on June 2011 as the month that Rubby De La Rosa made is first major league start.
Dodger Batter of June: Matt Kemp had the best month of his career in June, and was an easy choice for this month's award. Kemp hit .375/.472/.795 with 23 RBI. Kemp matched August 2009 for his career high for home runs in a month with nine, and also had eight stolen bases. Kemp has had two months in his career with an OPS of 1.000 or higher, and both have come this year (April and June).
Dodger Pitcher of June: Despite his 0-4 record, Hiroki Kuroda had a good month with a 2.12 ERA. However, once again, this award goes to Clayton Kershaw, who pitched eight more innings than Kuroda. Kershaw was 2-0 with a 3.58 ERA during June, but led the team with a 2.15 FIP. Kershaw ended the month with a flourish, with two straight complete games, including his third career shutout, striking out 11 in both games. Kershaw had 41 strikeouts during June, the most in the National League, against just seven unintentional walks.
June Record: 10-16
114 runs scored (4.38 per game)
117 runs allowed (4.50 per game)
.488 pythagorean winning percentage (13-13)
| June National League West Standings | |||||
| Club | W-L | Pct | GB | RS | RA |
| Giants | 17-10 | .630 | --- | 98 | 88 |
| Rockies | 14-12 | .538 | 2½ | 111 | 114 |
| Diamondbacks | 14-13 | .519 | 3 | 111 | 122 |
| Padres | 13-14 | .481 | 4 | 98 | 97 |
| Dodgers | 10-16 | .385 | 6½ | 114 | 117 |
Season Record: 36-46
316 runs scored (3.85 per game)
346 runs allowed (4.22 per game)
.459 pythagorean winning percentage (38-44)
| National League West Standings Through June 29 |
|||||
| Club | W-L | Pct | GB | RS | RA |
| Giants | 46-35 | .568 | --- | 285 |
281 |
| Diamondbacks | 44-38 | .537 | 2½ | 371 |
363 |
| Rockies |
39-41 | .488 | 6½ | 352 |
350 |
| Padres | 37-45 | .451 | 9½ | 285 |
309 |
| Dodgers | 36-46 | .432 | 10½ | 316 |
346 |
Game of the Month: The record-breaking 15-0 game in Minnesota was great, and either one of Clayton Kershaw's complete games were superb, but the game of June for the Dodgers happened June 4 in Cincinnati. Kershaw was coming off a shutout of Florida, and through five innings was nearly perfect against the Reds. He allowed just one hit through the first five innings, striking out nine. But all of a sudden, Kershaw lost it, allowing four runs in the sixth and two more in the seventh, and trailed 7-2 after seven innings. The Dodgers rallied to tie in the eighth inning, with the tying runs coming on a grand slam by Matt Kemp, who hit two home runs in the game. The Dodgers scored four more times in the 11th winning to take home an 11-8 win, just their fourth victory since moving to Los Angeles after trailing by five or more runs after seven innings.
The .400 Club: Aaron Miles led the National League in batting average in June, hitting .419/.418/.500 in 67 plate appearances. Since moving to Los Angeles, the Dodgers have had just 30 months of a player hitting .400 in at least 50 PA. That last link was written in May 2009; the two Dodgers before Miles to hit .400 in a month (with 50 PA) were Andre Ethier (.453/.500/.906 in 58 PA in May 2010) and Manny Ramirez (.415/.500/.659 in 52 PA in April 2010).
Pinch Hitting: For the month, Dodger pinch hitters had 14 hits in 44 at-bats, with two doubles, a home run, and two walks, hitting .318/.340/.432.
Runners in Scoring Position: In June, the Dodgers hit .268/.351/.371 with runners in scoring position in 248 plate appearances.
They had a runner on third base with less than two outs 57 times, and got the runner home 30 times, or 52.6% (the entire NL scored 411 of 826, 49.8%).
They had a runner on second base with nobody out 39 times in May, and the runner advanced 24 times, or 61.5% (the entire NL advanced the runner 334 of 599 times, 55.8%).
Upcoming Month: The Dodgers open the month with a trip to Anaheim to finish off interleague play, but the bulk of their July schedule will be played within the NL West. The Dodgers play 15 of their 25 games in July against intradivision foes, and also host the Mets and Nationals. The Dodgers play 16 of their 25 July games at home, plus three more in Anaheim.
June Weeks in Review: June 5 | June 12 | June 20 | June 27
Previous Months in Review: April | May
June Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Kemp | 108 | 88 | 18 | 33 | 6 | 2 | 9 | 23 | 17 | 8/0 | .375/.472/.795 | 1.268 |
| Loney | 97 | 89 | 11 | 30 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 7 | 0/0 | .337/.381/.404 | .786 |
| Ethier | 110 | 100 | 16 | 30 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 14 | 7 | 0/0 | .300/.345/.440 | .785 |
| Carroll | 75 | 64 | 6 | 20 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 0/0 | .313/.405/.375 | .780 |
| Barajas | 39 | 36 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 2 | 0/0 | .222/.263/.361 | .624 |
| Gordon | 77 | 74 | 10 | 18 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 6/2 | .243/.263/.297 | .560 |
| Blake | 73 | 65 | 5 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 7 | 0/1 | .169/.250/.262 | .512 |
| Uribe | 83 | 77 | 5 | 14 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 1/0 | .182/.241/.247 | .488 |
| Navarro | 60 | 53 | 4 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 0/0 | .132/.190/.208 | .397 |
| Starters |
722 | 646 | 79 | 171 | 29 | 4 | 16 | 76 | 61 | 15/3 | .265/.328/.396 | .724 |
| Castro | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | 1.000/1.000/1.000 | 2.000 |
| Oeltjen | 28 | 21 | 6 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 2/0 | .381/.481/.667 | 1.148 |
| Miles | 67 | 62 | 10 | 26 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 2 | 0/0 | .419/.418/.500 | .918 |
| Gibbons | 6 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .400/.500/.400 | .900 |
| Ellis | 16 | 13 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 0/0 | .308/.438/.308 | .745 |
| Gwynn | 62 | 55 | 10 | 17 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 6 | 3/1 | .309/.377/.364 | .741 |
| Thames | 32 | 30 | 0 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 0/0 | .233/.281/.267 | .548 |
| Furcal | 5 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .200/.200/.200 | .400 |
| Sands | 18 | 17 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .059/.111/.059 | .170 |
| DeJesus | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Bench |
236 | 210 | 30 | 67 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 27 | 19 | 5/1 | .319/.372/.390 | .762 |
| Pitchers |
50 | 42 | 5 | 12 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 1/0 | .286/.348/.381 | .729 |
| Totals |
1008 | 898 | 114 | 250 | 35 | 6 | 19 | 108 | 84 | 21/4 | .278/.339/.394 | .734 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Kuroda | 5 | 0-4 | -- | 29.2 | 23 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 24 | 2.12 | 1.112 | 3.51 |
| Kershaw | 5 | 2-0 | -- | 37.2 | 25 | 15 | 15 | 8 | 41 | 3.58 | 0.876 | 2.15 |
| Garland | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 6.0 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 4.50 | 1.000 | 5.00 |
| De La Rosa | 5 | 2-3 | -- | 27.2 | 28 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 26 | 4.88 | 1.627 | 4.16 |
| Billingsley | 5 | 3-2 | -- | 25.0 | 40 | 18 | 18 | 12 | 19 | 6.48 | 2.080 | 3.96 |
| Lilly | 5 | 1-4 | -- | 25.2 | 32 | 21 | 20 | 6 | 19 | 7.01 | 1.481 | 4.75 |
| Starters | 26 |
8-14 | -- | 151.2 | 153 | 81 | 78 | 54 | 131 | 4.63 | 1.365 | 3.63 |
| Jansen | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 6.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 9 | 0.00 | 0.667 | 1.50 |
| Hawksworth | 12 | 0-1 | -- | 10.2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 8 | 1.69 | 0.656 | 3.28 |
| Lindblom | 8 | 0-0 | -- | 10.2 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 1.69 | 1.031 | 3.19 |
| Guerra | 8 | 1-0 | 1 | 8.1 | 10 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2.16 | 1.560 | 3.12 |
| MacDougal | 12 | 0-0 | -- | 8.1 | 11 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 3.24 | 1.920 | 4.20 |
| Ely | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 3.0 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 6.00 | 1.667 | 2.33 |
| Troncoso | 6 | 0-0 | -- | 8.2 | 12 | 6 | 6 | 1 | 5 | 6.23 | 1.500 | 4.85 |
| Guerrier | 14 | 1-0 | -- | 12.2 | 11 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 7 | 6.39 | 1.184 | 4.89 |
| Elbert | 11 | 0-1 | 1 | 6.1 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 7 | 7.11 | 1.579 | 2.21 |
| Kuo | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 2.2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 10.13 | 1.500 | 6.00 |
| Relievers | 26 |
2-2 | 2 | 77.1 | 70 |
36 | 34 | 28 | 57 | 3.95 | 1.267 | 3.62 |
| Totals | 26 |
10-16 | 2 | 229.0 | 223 | 117 | 112 | 82 | 188 | 4.40 | 1.332 | 3.63 |
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Last caught stealing was April 20
14-0 since then
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
wow, pitchers had a higher OPS than starters
by dodgerpreacher on Jun 30, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
Of course there are five infielders and two outfielders in the “starters”.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
No shortstop since it moved around. For the non-catchers I included everyone with at least 13 starts (half the games) as a starter.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Just imagine Kershaws
month and year ERA if he doesn’t have those two back to back starts of a lot of earned runs
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 30, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
Most pitchers look significantly better if you don’t count their worst outings.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
ha
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
It won’t happen but I’d still love to see Mattingly DH for Navarro Saturday or Sunday if he gets a start.
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Would your brother survive such a thing?
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
It won’t happen because it’s against the rules…
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s funny, because I totally misread Kelly’s comment as having Navarro as the DH, but it’s funny either way.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Kemp walked 23 times this month
And he’s still putting up insane numbers even with him being pitched around. Incredible.
Nothing is ever easy.
Whoops
Guess I misread that.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Jun 30, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Navarro is a switch hitter, but is getting most of his at bats against LHP. I would find it funny if I check his splits and find out he’s been a better RHP but Donny only uses him against LHP.
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.071 OPS against righties
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=navardi01&year=2011&t=b
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
and I was thinking career
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
.726 career OPS as RHB vs LHP
.630 career OPS as LHB vs. RHP
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
ha ha
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean the other way, right?
Navarro has 97 PA batting left-handed, 14 batting right-handed.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Blake / Uribe whole lot of PVL suck
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powerful suck
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Uribe is owed 15mil less and has defensive value. No he isn’t.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Except for the part where he is twice as good as Jones was
and makes half as much money. And plays good defense. I’m sorry what where you saying again?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
selective endpointing and all that
and he is still playing good defense and making half as much as jones
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
selective endpointing and all that
So, how is Loney doing these days? :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s at least a sample size of almost 180 PAs. It’s 6 weeks instead of 4!
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
200
I’m going off the idea that 200 is a real sample size. If its not I blame reg.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
plus I don't think calling a player average
is anywhere near as crazy as comparing them to andruw jones
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
and yes I know you are joking
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
plus jones was like, actually kinda good before he signed
rather than being a pile of suck with a good year here and there..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jun 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
he had a year not much different then Uribe when we signed him.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
he also doesn't smile as much when he k's!
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Lets just call Uribe what he is
Another failed FA signing by Ned & Co.
Some bad luck, and some incompetence.
"Fast just got Faster"
Trivia question:
From 1958 – 1969, playing 1,000 games, outfielders, the top eight outfielders in OPS+ are all HOF, except one.
Can you name him? He is number five on the list a head of the likes of Yaz, Kaline, and Clemente.
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Is that Rocky Colavito?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Good guess, he is number nine
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Bingo-thanks for playing
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Rk Player OPS+ G From To Age PA HR RBI BB IBB SO OBP SLG OPS
1 Mickey Mantle 171 1449 1958 1968 26-36 5793 329 840 1063 91 1057 .416 .544 .960
2 Hank Aaron 163 1847 1958 1969 24-35 8018 444 1325 782 193 826 .379 .570 .949
3 Frank Robinson 160 1762 1958 1969 22-33 7458 383 1219 909 157 922 .396 .557 .953
4 Willie Mays 159 1801 1958 1969 27-38 7546 413 1203 824 124 897 .381 .563 .944
5 Frank Howard 141 1387 1958 1969 21-32 5395 290 843 503 74 1123 .344 .506 .851
6 Al Kaline 141 1604 1958 1969 23-34 6675 253 952 778 83 578 .383 .497 .880
7 Carl Yastrzemski 138 1383 1961 1969 21-29 5978 202 767 751 73 708 .383 .486 .869
8 Roberto Clemente 136 1709 1958 1969 23-34 7243 187 962 474 135 887 .368 .487 .854
9 Rocky Colavito 133 1601 1958 1968 24-34 6626 328 1010 831 58 752 .359 .487 .847
10 Billy Williams 131 1472 1959 1969 21-31 6330 249 855 557 87 650 .354 .493 .847
11 Roger Maris 129 1347 1958 1968 23-33 5422 261 799 592 37 654 .345 .482 .827
12 Bob Allison 127 1495 1958 1969 23-34 5834 255 789 781 30 1013 .358 .473 .831
13 Johnny Callison 121 1499 1958 1969 19-30 6119 189 690 532 53 888 .337 .454 .791
14 Leon Wagner 120 1352 1958 1969 24-35 4950 211 669 435 64 656 .340 .455 .795
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 6/30/2011.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
guys in front of him
weren’t half bad
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
You see, Gary, Frank Howard was a power-hitting….
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m familiar with Frank Howard.
If you go to 1970 or 71, and move the start to 1960 does he move up higher on the list?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
If you go from 1962 – 1972 he moves up to 4th because Mickey Mantle drops off the list due to not playing 1,000 games.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
true story
I’m just now learning about this Frank Howard man
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
He lived in Monrovia when he was a Dodger
what else do you need to know?
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
My aunt lives in Monrovia
has for something like thirty years. Its a pretty awesomely crap city.
He was the power behind the throne
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
I swear sometimes you valley folk just make up cities to confuse us South Bay kids
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope
It’s that town by Arcadia, right? I like that area.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
you're both right
when I was a very little kid, all three shared the high school in Monrovia. It was Monrovia-Arcadia-Duarte High
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
other, more awesome valley
SGV
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
last time I was near any of our mountains was to go to Santa’s Village when I was 6
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
This saddens me. Mountains are awesome.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
When you were in Berkeley
Did you never drive into the Sierra Nevadas and commune with nature in the nude?
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
nope, I went to the Marina and the Wharf though
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That sounds more hipster than hippie.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always claimed to be more hipster than hippie. I don’t like hippies very much
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Hipsters didn’t run around naked in their co-op.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Thats only because hipsters can’t put down their Pabsts long enough to remove their skinny jeans.
"Fast just got Faster"
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I said more hipster, I’m a little bit hippie. See, the fact that I’m unemployed
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me, I wish
these guys were still posting
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Will you teach in barefeet/Birkenstocks or old-school Vans?
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Hipster.
I have a co-worker that I have known since 1985 that has always worn, almost exclusive, black hi-top Chuck Taylors. Proto-hipster, apparently.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't wear those
my feet look like they are in clown shoes
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But it would match your big red nose.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
my nose is kinda big...
but its not symmetrical…
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Yeah, but you should see the other kid, right?
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I was never naked, in the city of Berkeley, outside of the confines of the walls of Lothl…
no that’s true, I was also naked on the road to the stadium, going to another coop. And I was naked in the library. But that’s it
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what I wear out in December
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
my sister
told me when I was 6 or 7 that there was no Santa but told me all about the historical roots of St. Nicolas. It turned out to be good to have that perspective at an early age.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Santa is a marketing tool. But so is the MLB All-Star Game
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I have but one rec to give
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Totally and I’d like to discuss it but alas rules are rules. Maybe on Google+
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
hesitant to join yet another
social media site, FB bores me now with its scrubbing of comments/posts, targeted ads, and people adding me to groups that I can’t approve (and then find 20 emails in my Yahoo inbox from same group). I’m usually a latecomer to these things, maybe down the line.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
That place sucked
they also had the smallest hamburgers I ever saw. They might as well been called sliders but where like 2.50 each.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
The buildings are still there. You can go buy firewood from them. Kind of fun to meander around a bit.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
According to Vin – Frank had one of the greatest arms he’d ever seen in the Dodger outfield, but after every strikeout he would come back to the bench and sit down and quietly slam his elbow into the concrete in the dugout. Eventually it did damage.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, if you really are interested.
http://www.truebluela.com/2007/9/20/112821/031
As Marty said, he is bit of my pet, being possibly my most favorite player to ever watch hit a baseball.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Frank Howard was like this, only bigger.
Bonus points for Leo Durocher using the term “wetback” on network TV.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
They all look like a bunch of wetbacks from the petrified forest.
No one should wonder why there was a lot of racial tension in LA in the 1960s.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Learned something new today
Don Sutton pitched for us for a lot longer than I thought. 16 years? All time Dodger leader in Wins and Losses.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
kids
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
he’s pretty much top five in every single category but saves
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I always wondered why his number was retired. I think of him as an Angel.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
gaaahhhh...
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This blows my mind
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
He played for the Angels when I was born, and had some big moment with them, no?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
If I was a young kid and I didn’t know Randy Johnson was a badass Mariner and Diamondback and I saw his 300th win as a Giant, I’d think of him as a Giant.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
oh no, that man’s career ended when he left the niners
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I think of him as a Red.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I think of him throwing water on Tim McCarver.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I think of Deion (not shockingly, there is an I in Deion) as a reality show host
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Or Frank Robinson and Dick Allen
However Jimmy Wynn was a Dodger:)
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I never put Sutton on the same pedestal as either of those two, so never even thought to look up his stats. I knew Drysdale and Koufax were great, that Orel and Fernando and Podres and Erskine and Newcombe and Sutton were very good, and that a lot of other guys filled in the rest.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
No shit.
He should look up some stats of the Brooklyn guys while he’s at it.
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Phuck Brooklyn
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
fogging up their horn-rim glasses
with rage
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
they’ll just ride the Cyclone, feel all better
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah..but the idea that nothing of significance happened if you didn’t see it on ESPN or in your lifetime is annoying.
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
jonmorosi
Source says #Dodgers aren’t in any serious talks about trading Kuroda right now. #Reds and #Rockies scouted him recently.
imho nothing will really start moving (for that or any other trade possibility)
til mid July at the earliest…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
just around the corner
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
right, still coming up, just thinking things won't really be moving and shaking
for a couple of weeks, and then it could happen fast (a few trades).
Personally, if Kuroda’s traded, I hope it’s a) to a team I don’t hate and b) a team making playoffs, because, well, good for him. still wouldn’t mind seeing him re-sign with LA again for one more year in 2012.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Perhaps Morosi thought for a second it was July 30
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
If it does happen
Kershaw
Bills
Lilly
Rubby
Ely/Eveland
by silverwidow on Jun 30, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping they would call up Eovaldi
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I heard some FO people were looking at him recently
maybe that’s a possibility
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Doubt they trade him. I’d like Grandal though.
by dodgers4life on Jun 30, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
right now the only thing of value that company has is its name recognition
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
It’s good to know that despite having very little brains you can have 35 million dollars.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
KEEEIIITTTTHHHHH!
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
lol be real
it had nothing to do with fox, it was a shitty product to begin with and was going to die no matter who bought them.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Disagree; they had it all prior to Facebook. They just got steamrolled by a better product. Could have been avoided .
See Yahoo/Google.
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The problem is they would have had to completely redone myspace
facebook started with a good foundation and built on it. Thats not Fox’s fault. it is their fault they bought a flawed product though.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
meanwhile
Zuckerberg sits alone in a room in his mansion, with a fire cracking before him and a tumbler of brandy in his hand. He toasts his fallen flow, with glee.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
knowing it’s his turn next as the trendsters follow to Google+
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
google+ is going to work, because Google Wave was such a huge success
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Lets compare things that are completely unrelated to each other
wave was an experimental product with no clearly defined use. Google+ is anything but.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I'm still not really sure why facebook is better than myspace
But I too ditched myspace for facebook years ago because that’s where all my friends went
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Same
I logged into my Myspace page a couple of weeks ago and it was all jazzed up.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
html is scary, and facebook puts their ads on the sidebar instead of letting them spam your inbox. Also, you can see everyone’s at once, instead of having to visit all 1200 of your fake friends.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
And learning that all 1200 of your fake friends have terrible taste in music.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
not sure either
because i’m not on either one :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
its better organized
doesn’t make me want to tear my eyes out when I visit? Myspace feels old.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Myspace feels like a geocities page. Facebook feels like a well designed web page
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
it's really gone downhill
because of facebook..i remember when myspace would probably go for a billion
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 30, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Fox bought it for $580 million just six years ago. By then Facebook was sprinting by.
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
My question is how does Eric afford all the Timex watches he gives away to each pitcher and hitter of the week and month.
What was it that they used to give away from 76? I forgot what they called it. Strips?
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Scrip?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That sounds right, though I have no idea what that is, if it’s not a gift certificate of some kind.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I was thinking of that, but it didn’t sound right in my head.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it was Union Oil Auto Strips. Worth $10 I think.
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I for one am glad to have Colorado. There’s a symmetry what with the Rockies in the NL west. Utah is just coming cause you have to fly over Utah to get to Colorado.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Utah is going to make the Pac12 more money than Colorado.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
the Mormons do have a lot of money, with their hotel chains and whatnot, but Denver is the bigger market
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Utah getting to play in a BCS bowl might make them more money than Colorado makes in a couple years.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
poo on that, Utah only had such a great record cause they were facing 6 cupcakes a year
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Alabama scowls at you
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Alabama plays that super tough SEC schedule I’ve been hearing so much about
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
still well more than 24 hours til the next Dodger action : )
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
and yet Utah still kicked their teeth in
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
anyone can win a one off game with a month to prepare
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
"They don't play good teams!"
“They kicked the crap out of Alabaman”
“That doesn’t count because!”
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
you mean the same month off the other team had to prepare?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
just saying it’s random is all. Does Utah deserve to play at the big kid table, sure. That’s why they are now. Did they deserve it before? No, because they were playing a kiddie schedule.
Utah knew it, TCU knew it, Boise St.’s going to be all alone now.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Circular logic all around on this one
They don’t deserve to play with big boys because they don’t play with big boys.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The system is rigged
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I understand the sentiment wherein there’s a system to crowd a D-I champ, and half the D-I schools can’t qualify. I get that. Thing is, this wasn’t an issue before the BCS championship game, and that was only created to make sure #1 played #2.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
We didn't always know Radiation could kill you
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I dunno about you, but Radiation gave me super powers
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
its funny too because a lot of these smaller schools TRY to play good teams
but teams like Alabama refuse to schedule them during the regular season, and then people point to that as a reason they aren’t good. SEC has the system gamed.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
They absolutely do
Just keep repeating over and over again how great you are and never travel in your non-conference schedule.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
this is where someone says that they keep winning bowl games so that proves they are better
and I link to this :-p
anyone can win a one off game with a month to prepare
LAG Confidential / SBNLA / Pop Bunker
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You forgot to mention the part where the SEC schedules a game with an FCS team.
Fucking pathetic.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Those aren't FCS schools
Was that the joke?
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Those are Div-1 teams
I’m talking about Div-2 teams, teams like San Jose State should destroy.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
are USC and UCLA the only schools that haven’t scheduled a FCS school?
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course you do...
/Actually kind of likes Arkansas
//will like Ark more when I get my damn t-shirt
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand, both USC and UCLA are the only schools to both play ND and not play a FCS school?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I realize they are D1, but a tune up game is a tune-up game. If you’re a top 50 BCS school. you could play El Camino Real High School or San Jose State and the result should be the same: an ass whoopin and a better understanding of your playbook and personnel.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
It shouldn’t be scheduled ever. And it shouldn’t be scheduled in the middle of conference games.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
winner winner, chicken dinner
Cal scheduled UC Davis last year specifically to help their athletic department balance their budget.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
so utah shouldn't do it because it shows they are week
other schools though are just trying to help a buddy out
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
UTAH DIDN’T SCHEDULE WEEK OOC TEAMS TO WARM UP, THEIR ENTIRE SEASON WAS WEAK TEAMS!
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
dude alabama played tennessee-chatanooga
in like week 9. And, again, if good teams would actually play them they would play better teams. But big div-1 schools are scurred.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
look when Utah has an awesome coach with a hounds tooth hat, give me a call.
In fact, you can call when Utah goes undefeated, and doesn’t lose their coach to Florida. Of when Boise St goes undefeated, and doesn’t lose their coach to Colorado.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
boise state did that in 2006
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
and utah's coach has been there since 2005
what are you talking about?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’m talking about Urban Myer leaving, and Dan Hawkins leaving.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
well they have both done what you just said
in the last 3 years. So… yeah.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That worked out great for Colorado.
Perhaps Boise State is just a better program.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Dan Hawkins didn’t leave Boise St. cause it was a better program
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
No, he went to Colorado where he sucker punched that program and installed his incompetent son as the quarterback when better options were available.
During that time, Boise State won a freaking BCS game. Boise State easily managed without Hawkins because they have a better program.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think I can argue this any further
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
May as well make it an exhibition game, a game that doesn’t count.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
like the BCS title game.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
by G.Scott on Jun 30, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if the NCAA allowed for exhibitions, I’m sure they would. As is, OOC games are the pre-season exhibitions
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember what happened to Michigan?
What a travesty.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure that I would consider that a travesty. They got beat by a team that had a great college QB.
If Arkansas loses to Missouri State in the opener this year, it won’t be a travesty either.
I will probably abandon this place until March of 12, but it won’t be a travesty. :)
It would be a travesty of a mockery of a sham if keithc wasn’t here.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
University of New Mexico lost to a Division 2 team
named Portland State in 2006. Somehow this was not rock bottom for the UNM football team.
That was hiring a coach who 1) Punched an assistant coach in the face in a team meeting and 2) has won a grand total of 2 games in 2 seasons.
It happens about once a year that a D-1 team loses to an FCS team.
FYI, Portland State is FCS, not division II.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s kind of irrelevant though. Somebody would win the Pac 12 and they would then make money for the league. I very much doubt Utah will be getting an at large bid.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
False
But both will be making a shit load of money per year.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
They’ll go by the wayside in a few years…
by KellyStephen on Jun 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Will the two division winners play each other for the title, straight up?
by silverwidow on Jun 30, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
If USC won the Pac 12 South
They wouldn’t play in the title game.
I think .
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
lol?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I don’t follow. Wouldn’t USC be the clear favorite in the Pac 12 South right now?
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Arizona’s main star players are injured and won’t play this season.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I laugh at USCs misfortune
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I'm still pissed at all the MWC teams jumping ship
Mountain West could have had: Utah, Boise State, BYU, TCU. That would be a killer football conference.
And a pretty decent basketball conference as well. Instead Utah splits, BYU goes independent and TCU splits. Basically leaving Boise State in the same position they were in when they were in the WAC.
BYU is rolling with the big dogs in basketball now.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
In basketball
BYU usually has a decent team. Utah used to when they had fat Rick Majerus as their coach (went to the title game one year). UNM should be good but we never are. San Diego State is turning into a really good program. UNLV obviously was good at one point.
Then there are teams like Air Force and Colorado State who never put it together. And TCU is abysmal at basketball.
2nd fastest machine in Glendale batting cage
was named Drysdale. Below Koufax machine. That’s how I knew he had a good fastball
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Ha Ha – loved that place
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Ditto me. I remember those signs.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you remember the slow machine names?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Podres? Osteen? (No). Maybe Sutton was next to Drysdale.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which
As The Atlantic notes, the National Enquirer reportedly has video footage of the married Hansen, 52, on a date with an anchorwoman at an NBC affiliate in West Palm Beach, Fla. According to the Enquirer — which may be a tabloid but knows a thing or two about capturing cheating husbands — Hansen has been dating the woman for four months.
by silverwidow on Jun 30, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s less ironic than it could have been.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
dude looks like Ireland without the massive forehead.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Give it time.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, this seriously made me laugh out loud.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
{bounce bounce bounce} Yikes.
Tweets from @molly_knight …
So McCourt really did bounce checks to ushers and security guards this week. Unbelievable. Yes, it’ll be sorted out but many of these (cont)
…people live paycheck to paycheck. Them having to wait three days or whatever and making them deal with their banks is an abomination.
(of course, as someone who had to deal with this same situation a couple of times this year, I can relate to this, sadly.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
continued
According to a story by @dylanohernandez, affected employees were issued new paychecks yesterday. Are we at rock bottom yet?
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
its a pretty much unavoidable bankruptcy thing
they freeze accounts for a few days
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
yah I wondered about that
(about how it works)
would be scary though — while millionaire players can’t be too worried, if you’re in the lower middle classes or below waiting awhile for a check to go through is rather unfortunate.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That's what I was going to say
That’s actually on the bankruptcy court.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
its worse for vendors
When Tribune went into bankruptcy, they couldn’t process POs for about a month. Made it tough to pay day-to-day expenses. And the vendors aren’t too happy about any outstanding bills
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Since these are all second jobs for just about all the service folk or extra retired money I don’t think we need the hyperbole that they will not be able to afford to feed their babies.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
is that true? these are all second jobs?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
everyone I’ve ever know who has worked at Dodger Stadium as an Usher or Food Person was a second job or simply ancilliary income, never their main job.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
well someone else can tweet her the facts ;-)
(still not a fan of bouncing paychecks, esp for anyone not otherwise working right now at least)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Seems about right. Not exactly steady work.
Staples Center might be a full time job since they have events close to every day (but still a longish break)
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And it’s not like there’s tons of jobs to go around so they might need to take just this.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
truth
that high school kid who sold me his nuts was probably using that for a car payment
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you keep his nuts in a jar by the door as practice for later married life?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m just glad he knows now that he never want to be a father.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I assume there are a lot of people out there who work multiple jobs and need the check from each one to make ends meet.
The lady that cleans my house (cleaned my folk’s house 30 years ago) also work’s for Levy’s working concessions and DS and Staples. She needs all the income she can scrape up.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
All true – but three days is not going to change anything. Not like it was a well known resturant chain and they just shut the door and never paid anyone the back wages they owed. This is simply a hiccup that will get fixed very quickly and any OMG about it, is sorely misplace. JMO
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
The (over)reaction is hyperbolic, no doubt
OTOH, tomorrow is the 1st. Some people probably need that check to make sure the rent is covered. Probably not fun knowing for sure if a new check was going to be issued in time – they got them yesterday.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
And if you throw in that dealing with large banks on bounced checks that probably charged you a fee for it is a pain in the ass….
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you're right that she's probably overreacting to it, but also think you're wrong to dismiss that these people depend on that check
even if it is a second job (and again they may not have a 2nd job right now given economy, or their 2nd job happens another time of year.) And as one who had paychecks bounce 2-3x this year I can also attest to the fact that a few days sometimes DOES matter. I had a portion of the mortgage payment due, and a credit card bill due, and both depended on my ability to have a certain amount of money by that date in order to pay those bills. Fortunately the mortgage has a buffer before penalties kick in, but I ended up paying late fees on my credit card bill before finally changing the due dates to make it less scary. But I would not dismiss out of hand the importance of a few days. Just from my own experience.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
She has an interesting story – mother died when she was young, fled El Salvador at 12/13, came to US, worked these low-level jobs, husband left her, lives in modest apts in low-rent areas of LA, still had her four kids get to college with most graduating. If I was any sort of writer, I could probably interview her and get a decent movie spec out of it.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
sounds like my housecleaner
except Guatemala
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
lazy? or busy working 2 jobs? ;-P
plus, personally I can clean my own house, just not that well..
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Or my house
is a lot bigger than yours. ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
If we all took the time
to here the stories of the people who left Central America during the Reagan years, there would be a lot to talk about.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 30, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Two jobs at crappy pay does not make it easy
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course
The low level workers get screwed first.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 30, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Finally! LA here i come!!
Driving down tonight and will be at the Dodgers v. Angels game on Sunday! woo hoo!
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
Drive faster, and go Saturday, for Kershaw v. Weaver II
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
This time….well, it still doesn’t count
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I know...
i really wanted to go to that game. But a key member of the party couldn’t make it.
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
Sometimes sacrifices half to be made.
Such as, never talking to Josie about college football when there is a brick wall nearby you can simply bang your head against.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not even college football. I’m yet to get into a debate here on the game of football. It’s always the same BCS v. Mid-major conferences debate.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you prefer to the debate the merits of the spread offense vs. the wishbone?
I mean, really, what else is there to debate regarding college football? Specifically, want don’t we talk about? We talk plenty of sanctions/USC type stuff too.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m just saying if Delias or Eric wanted to discuss which school between Cal, UCLA, and USC has the best QB going into next year, it wouldn’t be like banging their heads against the wall.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, there’s no argument which QB is better between those 3 schools to begin with :)
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 11:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
no for sure, I’m not gonna argue Matt Barkley is better than unnamed Cal QB. I can be rational about CFB : )
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm still angry he got all the credit for the comeback win against Ohio state last year or the year before
when it was really his o line and RB doing all the work. From Hell’s heart I stab at thee espn
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i would've been perfect
because last year, my 4th of July weekend Dodger game was also a Kershaw game.
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Crossing paths
Leaving early in the morning to head northwards to NE California for vacation.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
As a prospect, what was Matt Kemp ceiling?
Probably closer to 2009, than 2011 right? Nobody expected Kemp to be able to produce a normal Albert Pujols year.
Never say nobody. No matter how good a prospect is someone will say something about them that can still be called ridiculous hyperbole.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember posting on the Dodgerthoughts
That’s kemp reminded me of Manny in his ability to hit to all fields with authority. Others in that same thread said theysaw somePujols in him.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 30, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Kemp believed he could do it!
He called 40/40 before last year did he not? So he was a year early…
I mean I thought he would bounce back
but wowzers
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i'm eager to see if he can keep it up all year
Beltre was able to do it…
If Kemp regresses down to 300/370/500 its still a great year for him but about what i think his expected ceilng would be.
Yeah but Beltre had the help of those bone spurs
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 30, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
most frustrating thing is
If someone said Matt Kemp was going to be the best player in baseball in 2011…i bet most would expect the Dodgers to win 88-90 games.
Instead, he’s an MVP, Kershaw’s among the best…and Dodgers are headed towards winning 70-73 games
Yes
you hate to waste career seaons.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
That is definitely the most frustrating part of the season.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a humiliating kick in the crotch.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a pull out your heart
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't he pull out the guys throat?
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Yes
but I went with the Molly
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel happy knowing what that was before clicking on it.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
or something sharp and pointy.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
This production is shocking
If he keeps it up, it will be Shocking the Sequel
His ability to lay off bad pitches and destroy anything in the strike zone is a fascinating development.
What I’m most curious about is the incredible SB% and I’m left wondering if anyone has ever had such an improvement from one year to the next who stole over 20 bases.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I would settle for Shocking the (Rally) Monkey this weekend.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Stole 20 in both years? Or reduce it to 19.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
how about 30 attempts?
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Molly Knight is on the ESPN Baseball Today podcast, err, today
saying that Frank borrowed $40mill from a hedge fund as per the agreement from bankruptcy court. That he essentially made payroll from his own stores?
well it’s not out of pocket but Molly made it sound like he was using his own money
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair he did steal that money from the Dodgers in the first place.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
yup
with all the shennigans going on, the man is treading water. i wonder what tricks the lawyers are gonna come up with now
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
Can’t take the team from me if you don’t tell me you are /covers ears.
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I am starting to see the bankruptcy move
as – at least partially – Frank moving the battle from a turf he’s not comfortable on, hobnobbing with the other club members in the MLB cartel, to a field he’s very experience with, litigation.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Metro
Good news: ability to take Goldline and Flyaway to LAX on Saturday
Bad News: Gold Line pickup time is at 4:41am
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT reply actions
Leaving Lake at 4:41 for the 5:30 Flyaway at Union
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
To the town with the best fans in baseball
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The weather should be — uh, yeah, have a good time with your familia.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
No way I am going near the arch with the fair over the 4th of July. It will be crazy downtown. I am going to see my bro’s new twins…so I will be hanging at the house with the a/c and pool volleyball!
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I miss pool volleyball
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
My old apartment complex played every night over the Summer. We had these basic beach balls we used from Target. It was great because the amount of spin you could put on the ball made for crazy serves and some awesome shots.
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 30, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Who will Andre Ethier play for next season...and what will be his salary?
I’ll still say Dodgers – 13mils.
But, if they are really in dire financial straits a non-tender is possible.
Absolutely less than zero chance at a non-tender, unless he gets hurt.
$13 million sounds about right.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You think Andre is going to win 13 Mill in arbitration?
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Making nine, player salary goes up ~50% every year.
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
If you include his second job.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would you non tender an easily moveable asset? Andre has plenty of value and he’s cheap next year. If want to move him, we would get plenty in return.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
No one would offer anything if it’s clear he’s not getting arbitration.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
not many guys go to arbitration
Get their salary, and then are dealt before the season starts.
I suppose Ethier would have some value as a player on a 1yr contract though to other teams.
They tried
before they non-tendered him there were reports of him being traded to the Yankees, just the trade never happened.
good hitting is hard to come by these days
and we have a lot of pithing in the system. What would you want for him?
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sold at all on Trayvon
I want to be because he’s a homeboy, but my fear is that his ceiling is that of a useful 4th outfielder. It’s the K rate, like everyone else says. Seems like it would be murder in the majors.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jun 30, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Almost every team would benefit from him, but they aren’t gonna give us anything in return.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
34% DL
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Mark Ellis was born to be a 2003 Dodger
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
more like a 2011 Dodger
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
A’s are also paying cash considerations. Not sure how much.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Rockies are paying $1 million of Ellis’s remaining salary. A’s pay the rest.
$6 million / 183 days in the season X 90 days left in the season = ~$2.95 million.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants should totally jump on Carroll to match the Rockie move.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade him for belt
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did he end up loneying LF?
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I really think Aaron Miles will help the Giants greatly.
You know you like him Sabean, do it.
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Guy needs an L-E-Y to be good.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
for what? Funny how Lopez, Herrera, EY, and Nelson all failed for them so they get the guy who will probably be hurt before the deadline and they will still need a 2nd baseman.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Uni-watch
found a pamphlet that used to be given to new Dodger players. It’s kinda neat,
the cover
two inside pages
Hamels nailed by line drive
had to leave game. Looks like Lester should’ve been favored today!
#PhillieHatersRejoice
oh damn
where’d it hit him?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never actually heard the full trash can story
can someone recount it for me?
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i'd also
enjoy hearing that
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Kent put a trash can in front of Kemp’s locker. Kemp moved it. End of story
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp moved it, and Kent used that as an excuse to take the piss out of the kid
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Some stories just aren’t all that interesting.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Kent did it because the kids where being too
“uppity”?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
context is that the Dodger locker room is very, very small. It’s essentially a narrow corridor. When all the players are in there at their lockers, there is little room to traverse. So even a little thing like a trash can can be an annoyance.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
suffice to say, Eric will not be doing any break dancing in the clubhouse anytime soon
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even think Dee Gordon would have room to break out
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp has said part of the reason he’s having such a great season was rededication to the game of baseball. Isn’t that all his critics have ever asked? Work hard on your game because you have the god gift abilities to be one of the best players in baseball?
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yup
and look at him now. MVP and Triple Crown candidate.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, Carlos.
From Rob Neyer:
Carlos Zambrano leaves start after giving up hit to Miguel Tejada. http://sbn.to/kyUnvQ
Officially, Zambrano was suffering “lower-back soreness” but that might just be a euphemism for Holy-Crap-I-just-gave-up-a-hit-to-Miguel-Tejada-itis. A team of physicians, at this very moment, is running a battery of tests.
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LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Cubs have bases loaded and 1 out vs Cain in 3rd
giants up 1-0. Castro up.
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Cain gets out of it
on a K and ground out. #Cubsfail He’s at 60+ pitches though (Cain).
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You do realize that it no longer matters what the Giants do?
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Let the man root for the Giants to lose!
"Fast just got Faster"
I would rather the D backs win the division
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You do realize I like it when the Giants lose, thankyouverymuch.
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Also, you do realize I live in SF, right?
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Red Sox DFA Mike Cameron
Would he be worth taking a flyer on?
I know he had popped up in trade requests from quite a few people before and during this season…
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
He can do what Thames can do while also playing defense and running. That said why bother adding a veteran now.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Still half a season to be played
If the team gains even a minor resemblance of an offense to support the pitching, and Cameron can provide that, seems to be worth it to me. If not, no big deal: you can always wave the white flag, release him and bring up one of the kids.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
he'll be a phillie
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
no surprise, but sheesh. what a year in sports.
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GFY, shitty NBA owners
who give Allan Houston, Jalen Rose, Jermaine O’Neal, and Joe Johnson ridiculous contracts and then want to blame the players for you losing money.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
Which currently locked out league will play games in the fall of 2011?
a) NFL
b) NBA
c) both
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
NFL
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lockout won't last past mid july
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A
Supposedly they’re much closer to a deal.
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question
if the NBA season doesn’t happen this year, do those players who are scheduled to become FA in 2012 still become them?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I would imagine the contracts are for x number of years, not written that they expire at a certain year.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Josie’s right on with her sentence.
"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper
If there's no season
the Heat really blew it cos they’ll waste a year of Lebron and Wade’s prime years. I’m all torn up about it.
At least Kobe will get to rest his knees!
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Varitek has two homers today. He and cleanup hitter Dustin Pedroia just went back-to-back in the 8th in Philly. Sox up 5-0.
Dodgers' bankruptcy case could extend into 2012
In the interim, the league is expected to ask the court to revoke McCourt’s franchise rights or reinstate Tom Schieffer as the team’s league-appointed trustee.
This is what I’ve been waiting for. It’s been looking like MLB did not anticipate this bankruptcy hearing. It still seems as if they don’t understand who they’re dealing with in Frank McCourt. They claim that he disregarded the team for his own “needs” in siphoning off $100 million. If they understand that, why didn’t they seize the team when they had the chance? Since MLB rules allow them to seize it once he applied for bankruptcy, why haven’t they done so? It must be because of bankruptcy laws, where the judge now has the say-so. They seem to keep expecting McCourt to be rational in minimizing his losses by bending the knee and settling with them. He won’t settle. He’ll keep litigating, and won’t mind taking down the team with him. I don’t understand why MLB does not act decisively, and argue about it later in court as needed. Perhaps they’re not sure that they still have 75% of the owners with them after all, now that things have become gritty?
Even if MLB could ultimately win in court, it is in their best interests to avoid having to be subject to a trial that will force them to open their books when their own collective bargaining agreement comes due this December.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Or MLB and the other owners may be forced to decide which hurts them more: opening their books, or setting a precedent of allowing Frank to slice and dice the Dodgers while hanging on. You can bet he will force them to make that value judgment if he can, rather than come to an accommodation even if it guarantees him more money than losing. He will bank on the opther party standing down so he can win. I hope they have the guts to push it. First, of course, we have to see what the judge rules. He may still side with MLB. That’[s what it’s about at the moment.
First, of course, we have to see what the judge rules. He may still side with MLB. That’[s what it’s about at the moment.
Which is why MLB likely won’t do anything until at least after that July 20 date.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
it is
because of the bankruptcy laws. I believe all they can really do is ask the Judge to honor their rules.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I was told by very smart people that Bud had all his bases covered because he is a very smart man and has never been outfoxed.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not believe them.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it unlikely they did not anticipate this as a possibility
but this was not what they wanted to happen.
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That's a battle only SSBB can determine
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Sunny in Philadelphia cracks me up
Mac: The girls in Philly need a place to go wild
Dennis: We need to open up our bar as a place of freedom!
Mac: We are going to have Patty’s as the most American bar ever in all of America, a place with absolute freedom! Listen dude, we should head over to the sorority houses, you know, spread the word.. hand out some leaflets or something.
Dennis (In a serious tone): No, Mac, we should go to the library.
Mac: The Library? Why?
Dennis: Because at the sorority houses, you’re just going to find tramps and whores. Those girls are already wild…
Mac: Perfect!!
Dennis: No, no, Mac, you’re not listening to me.. (Creeps up on Mac, tone of voice gets more serious) we don’t want wild girls, we need real girls gone wild… It’s important to see the transition, you want to watch the process…
btw Josie, Amazon will not be charging state tax
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NO!
BRICK AND MORTAR LOSES! The internet wins : (
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Cali had to know amazon would do this
they have done this in several states already.
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Even though I posted a link to and a quote from a similar article.
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Until U.S. Congress writes legislation to
do that (and that would supersede U.S. Supreme Court ruling re this issue), no company like Amazon is going to listen to any state.
What would you do if MLB folds the dodgers
then holds an immediate expansion draft for a new LA team?
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wake up in a cold sweat
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They don't want to open their books either
its unlikely, but its a real possibility with about a 1 in a million chance of happening.
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depends on the following factors:
a) do they keep Dodger Stadium
b) does the new team keep the Dodger name and history
c) Is Vin Scully involved with this new team
if the answer to any of those questions is no, I start studying Angel history .
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
no
no
maybe
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the only way I would catch on with a non-Dodger expansion team playing not in Chavez Ravine would be if they were called the Hollywood Stars.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Angel History
Sucked for a long long time. Then got exciting for exactly 5 minutes in each 79 and 86. Rest home for aging players in mid-80’s. Greatest gag jobs ever in 86 and 95. Have played in a football stadium for many years. Changed their uniforms almost as many times as the Padres. Cowboy died, Mouse took over, won one championship with a monkey, then became a red massive blob of boring winning baseball. Now the owner is growing devil’s horns. The end.
by delias man on Jun 30, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I wouldn’t be an Angel fan. I’d probably transfer to UT, work on my PhD and become a Longhorn Baseball fan….or try for UCLA and become a Bruin baseball fan
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
you gotta know what a crumpet is
to understand cricket
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
dude
fuck Cricket, but that’s the ticket. Move to England and cover football for like Derby County or Nottingham Forest.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This adds to my violent morning/afternoon :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I only consider schools that USC has a beef with : )
That’s why LMU has been so boring. Who has beef with LMU?
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers transferred from USC to LMU.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I just punched a kitten
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they were 2 guys from West Philly
I could relate to them, and it made it all the more shocking when he died. I was really into college basketball at the time, what with the Big 5 in Philly and all.
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They were my heros for leaving USC for little LMU and Westhead. I can blame Bo Kimble for me being a Clipper fan.
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Maybe you had to have lived through it, but the story of Gathers, Kimble and LMU’s Elite Eight run, with Kimble’s free throw tributes as pictured below, will still bring tears to my eyes.
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Yes, luckily we lived through some great times. Would you like to play chess sometime:)
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SBN didn't need to hire Kelso, they already had David Young for the great
BURN
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
to someone whose bloody cousin is Gary Grant it should be.
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all I know is Gary won a title at Michigan when he was there. I really don’t know much at all about College basketball history
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Gary Grant and Bo Kimble have nothing to do with College ball.
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Stop saying Kimble
I keep seing Arnold shaking a little kid asking him what his father does for a living.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I remember Loy Vaught and Danny Manning, I don’t remember Bo Kimble, but I was really tiny
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s one short retrospective story on Kimble and Gathers.
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didn’t realize LMU and USC had paintball teams at one point
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you not seen their giant photos in the gym??????
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I went to one LMU basketball game, some kid had a California State flag with a lion on it, pissed me off, so I left
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think people understand what a hypothetical is
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
MLB threatened to do this to the rangers
I never bought it, but its not liek it hasn’t been discussed before
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Shouldn’t have started the morning with Dirty Harry
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For Eric
High Desert scored 13 runs in the top of the second in Lancaster last night. Biggest inning against the club ever.
Lancaster’s team ERA went down!
Tigers want starting pitching
Could they join the (possible) Kuroda sweepstakes?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
Just asking
if we all agree to note that both Kuroda and Furcal have trade approval rights, than from this point on I will cease in mentioning it.
I know this
I’m just wondering about the teams that will come asking about him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
no Japanese precedent there
I think, but if they offer enough money he might waive the NT. They are not impressing me for a “contender”, Scherzer is not solid.
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they just replaced Coke in the rotation
with Furbush
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
better than replacing Dr. Pepper
with Merkin.
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well played
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp, Carroll, Kuroda for Miggy, Raburn
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how about Kuroda for Raburn?
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I’d like to get Tommy’s Godson in the fold
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Avila? Hell yes but no way is he getting traded...
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Yes and he even got an all star vote from me
as I said, no way is he traded.
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Kyle Russell laughs
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?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
76 K’s in 227 at bats.
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Russell or Raburn?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i'd rather have Boesch
but i know that’s unlikely
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
me too, and yes.
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that's why I clarified sir
but i know that’s unlikely
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
see?
fun isn’t it?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
he did in the series vs. the Dodgers didn't he?
I know he played 2B in one game
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Based on comments I saw on the tigers sbnation site
he does not play 2nd well
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yeah
he is their Uribe, meaning the object of all scorn
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i saw that
they were all over him when he got picked off at third
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean
I would definitely take this guy. wOBA of .350 last year and .378 the year before. This is the type of guy you take a flyer on when you have nothing immediate to play for (like the Dodgers)
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Dodgers ever got Raburn
I would make way too many references to this dude and his microphone.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, he’s been playing the IF with a somewhat full outfield.
But he’s kind of sucked. Really, if he can hit like last year he can play a corner OF spot with LAD.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Raburn has been the target of “Free Ryan Raburn” Internet campaigns for years. Like most free [x] campaigns, he got his chance and sucks terribly. We don’t need him.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember the Free Matt Kemp campaign working out okay
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think that existed.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Have any free ……… campaigns ever worked out? Calvin Pickering is just wondering
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Jack Cust had an elongated moment in the sun
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Roberto Petange might have been okay. I don’t really remember.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, remember he had to flee to Japan, which he destroyed, then came back old, and was given some shots but withered on the vine.
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Right.
Ummmm Hee Seop Choi had the best year ever for a guy whose career ended at 27 for reasons besides injury or moving back to your home country.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Still makes me shudder that his 2005 season is considered such a failure but yet we have now had five seasons of Loney and the same fans who hated Choi would tell me that Loney is far and away the better player.
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I remember 30 home runs from Hee Seop Saenz somehow being a bad thing.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Was the most famous one Erubiel Durazo?
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
A home run every 14 at bats from 2001-2002!
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve erased that PED phuck from memory.
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The trade he was in was pretty awesome
A’s get Erubiel for someone named Jason Arnold
Blue Jays get Jason Arnold for Felipe Lopez
Reds get Felipe Lopez for Elmer Dessens
D’Backs get Elmer Dessens for Erubiel
Why you’d trade Erubiel when he was a dinger machine for Elmer Dessens, I dunno.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, the trade occurred either the day of or the day after Elmer’s wedding, which Erubiel Durazo was at.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
WTH
I spit out my lunch
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When a man is feeling amorous with a person he admires, sometimes, he shows it with a physical reaction.
Mascots like this are why we have a lesbian problem. That and the fact most men are dogs.
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I’m not convinced you understand what the word “problem” means.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Who sees a problem here?
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by David Young on Jun 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
God damn it Dave. How does your work computer let you pick up these images without a problem.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Heh
Not at work today. Prepping for vacation and taking car of some business with my car.
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I don’t think that’s how sexuality works.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
no I mean what team is this? why do they have a yellow and brown sock for a mascot?
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
some would call that a banana
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are all men that unobservant? What’s the brown spot on the heel then? Or that red fringe on the top?
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry men, that was uncalled for. But how am I the only one that sees a sock?
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
because your a hipster?
/reach
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Because no one should think a yellow and browned striped sock is a good idea.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Except a mid-1980s Padres fan.
(Yeah, I know, those are stirrups and socks….)
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Yes, but I wasn’t sure you’d know what I meant if I wrote “sanitaries.” ;-p
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I learned this weekend that they’re called sanitaries because the dye they used in the stirrups in the 1920’s was poisonous, and guys would get cleated or whathaveyou in the ankle and the dye would get into the blood stream and cause infection. ‘Sanitaries’ is the term used for the thin white sicks meant to keep the dyes off your socks. Now, dyes are no longer poisonous, but we keep wearing sanitaries.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Thanks, I’ve always wondered why I had to wear the whitey’s.
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that’s the most stated reason, but the possibly truer reason is you wouldn’t wash your stirrups everyday, cause they’d fade the more often you washed them, but you’d change out the white sock everyday, thus it was sanitary.
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Like the manly men back then
gave a shit about fading anything other than a dice roll
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
by mleadman on Jun 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hollywood Joe was right. We do merely live in Marty’s shadow.
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it's comfy
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the time
Hobbes wore “Mickey Mouse” pants, the closing panel had the great exchange:
Hobbes: Hmph. Maybe I’m new wave.
Calvin: Maybe you"re just stupid.
I thought it was supposed to be
a bee.
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Hey Tripon
from last thread, you were asking about Kemp. I looked back at the 2006 Baseball America Prospect Handbook, and they said Kemp’s ceiling was “considerable” and that he projected to hit .275 with 25-30 home runs annually.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Because for some reason Tripon’s pic didn’t load on my computer at work, I didn’t know what you guys were talking about until I clicked your link. Wow.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
but I am flabbergasted that you were right, in that it was supposed to be a sock.
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without the red fringe I can see where y’all were coming from, but there’s no way to explain red fringe on a banana
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
are you being paid for teeing these up?
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
At a certain point, like say THE VERY MOMENT THE DUDE BUT THE COSTUME ON, someone has to step in and say, “you know what, there will be no mascot tonight.”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting
Also, Diamondbacks general manager Kevin Towers is said to hold Kuroda in high regard, having watched him pitch many times in the National League West. Diamondbacks team president Derrick Hall told FOXSports.com this week that club ownership is willing to do "whatever it takes" at the trade deadline to the help the team win. Arizona has a young rotation and has recently dropped into second place after losing back-to-back series.
Tony Abreu is coming back
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Mixed metaphor!
Let’s skin the DBacks in this trade.
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Goldschimdt for Kuroda!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Mattingly / Kuroda for Gibson
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hahaha
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be very happy with this
maybe the best 1B prospect in the minors now, which means it probably won’t happen. Especially inter-division. Yeah, not happening.
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Just had a friend say he was living pitch to pitch with his relationship
i tried to come up with an analogy, but none sounded right:
Hit is as good as a walk
Don’t swing for the fences
sit back on the offspeed
work the count
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
A) The sacks are full.
B) Playing for one run.
C) Looking to go the othe rway
D) Trying to bounce one up the middle.
you are the Yogi Berra of the modern era.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Home run is better than a productive out.
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Tigers – I’d ask for Chance Ruffin and see what they say.
DBacks – One of their two 1st round pick 3B (Davidson or Borchering). They don’t need both.
"Fast just got Faster"
Underdog
Giants about to win another 1 run game. 1 – 0
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Wilson just gave up a game-tying home run to A. Ramirez
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
The only thing better
would be if it was A Martinez
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Oh shit, that's it?
I assumed they were (inexplicably) in the same bracket in the women’s world cup
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Josie - the Rick Monday of Context
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they're talking about that as a potential semifinal matchup though
which would be awesome. it’s in Germany and their team is good so don’t know if that would end so well for the US women… but would be cool game.
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soccer teams stand on the same side of the field or opposite?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
One of the reasons I hate the Emerald Bowl.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
same side, separated by the scorers table. Just like basketball
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I cannot believe how bad Adam Dunn continues to be.
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Just before I came back to work, I saw a play from that game. Bases loaded for Colorado, one out. Ground ball to Dunn behind 1B. He came forward, stepped near the bag and threw home. The runner at home was called out (tag looked safe, but we’ll never know), but the runner at 1B was safe because Dunn never touched the bag.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
vindicated
I never wanted the Dodgers to pursue him. Then again, he might pull out of it, but lumbering sluggers kinda do this, albeit not so dramatically.
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Our off-season didn't exactly work out though
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I voted for Beltre in the FA poll :)
you have to overpay for good production at that position, not that it was gonna happen or anything. That also means Ely starts instead of Lilly all year. We’d still suck but we’d be set at 3B for a few years
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That one hasn't exactly worked out either
Beltre is hitting for power, but little else, and he wouldn’t be anywhere near those homer numbers if you translate his season thus far from Texas to LA.
he has 1.4 Owar becuase 3bman are horrible this year
and .9 defensive war. I’ll take that, but not at 18 per I guess
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Speaking of Dunn
from @RotoPat:
Clayton Kershaw has two hits against LHP this season. Adam Dunn has one.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
(That guy looks like he’s 13 btw)
Though he did err with this followup:
It’s too bad the Dodgers and White Sox aren’t playing this year. You can bet Dunn would’ve sought Kershaw out behind the cage before a game.Already happened, kid.
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For the record
If you are ever caught in this situation, what you don’t want to say is “I thought the lady was dead.”
Courtesy of Baseball Think Factory’s Sean McNally.
She was just pining for the fjords
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Naw, she was just restin'.
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62 is the new 52
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Kenny Loggins: as old as Steve Garvey, Ron Cey, Bill Russell, Charlie Hough and Velcro.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
You go your way and I'll go mine
A photo of Happy Hooten next to Kenny would be freaky
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Back in 83 or there abouts
Cybil Shephard (and David Soul!) was in a Dallas wannabe show and they filmed newspaper scene at the Glendale paper I was working at. I remember seeing her sitting on top of a desk and thinking her ass was aircraft carrier wide.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
the best infomercial I've ever seen
was a few weeks ago with the collection of the old Midnight Special series. I was born in 1974 so I don’t remember it but I remember the music of the era, and it’s startling how much more diverse and adventurous pop music was back then. No way would a network show these days feature acts like James Brown and Kraftwerk and Roxy Music, but then again they were pretty singular acts. You usually have to dig deep for quality now.
Anyway, Loggins and Messina were hosting the infomerical.
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Evidently Aussies are as stupid as we are.
On 13 May 2011, a 20-year-old man from Gladstone in central Queensland was charged for allegedly planking on a police vehicle.21 Popular planking locations include park benches and other public places. On 15 May 2011, Acton Beale, a 20-year-old man, plunged to his death after reportedly “planking” on a seventh-floor balcony in Brisbane, Australia. Beale became the first known casualty of the planking fad.22
Acton Beale’s friends have accused Paul Carran, a New Zealander living in Sydney who claims to have invented planking in 2008, of bearing responsibility for Beale’s death by promoting planking.
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I'm not sure I understand what this means
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Dwight Howard
one of the world’s longest plankers.
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No
planking caught on more than parkour.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Taking out the “need to be an incredible athlete” part really helps.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
It’s pretty stupid if you ask me. I don’t know how it got so popular.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Irony gone terribly wrong.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
"lets do this because its so stupid its funny"
other people:
“look at that funny awesome thing those guys did! lets do it too!”?
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See: Believin’, Don’t Stop.
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the assumption is that they are all-stars?
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well not necessarily I suppose. I’m not sure if they have had non-All-Stars other than the US v World times.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
From the press release
All players are eligible to participate in the State Farm Home Run Derby, not only those named to All-Star rosters
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Who I’d like to see, because fuck it
NL:
Fielder, Holliday, Kemp, Howard
AL:
Ortiz, Dunn, Bautista, AGon
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
NL – Stanton, Howard, Kemp
AL – Trumbo:), Bautista, Miggy
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Stanton would be the most exciting for me. 500 foot homers!
by Julio Nievas on Jun 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Way late here but I like these picks a lot
"Fast just got Faster"
Assuming Grace can get a ride to the stadium, he could pitch to Ross!
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Hee Sop Choi participated once
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I think the only time non-All-Stars participated was the US v World year(s)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think was the greatest Dodger ever in it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The full list
2005: Choi 5 home runs
1995: Mondesi 2
1994: Piazza 0
1993: Piazza 0
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder wise we traded Piazza
/duck
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Let me ask you this. If Mike Piazza was so good, why did we trade him?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Jim Eisenreich always murdered the Dodgers, so they had to get him on their side.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
captains?
have they always done this?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I want them to do the bat, thumb on top thing to decide who gets to go first. Does this thing have a name?
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No No No
the thing where you take a bat, each person puts a hand around the bat as you head up barrel, whoever gets the thumb on the top of the bat goes first.
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It does
but I can’t remember it
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I always called it bat toss.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot the name for that.
Probably something like grabsies or some shit.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
They will each personally invite 3 from their league.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Show up on their doorstep
with a rose bat?
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
All players are eligible to participate in the State Farm Home Run Derby, not only those named to All-Star rosters
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Stanton, Nelson Cruz
Wily Mo is now in AZ too, wouldn’t be hard
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I've been told Ichiro could win if he wanted to
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
but.. but he doesn't want this thing :-p
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
so it's no longer
“I’m an all-star, and I want to do the HR derby!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe Prince was just trying to see his boy Matt in the Dodger locker room.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB should just say fuckit
and do sack races, pie-eating contests, dunking, etc. Make it a literal carnival.
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
MLB Transaction Page on July 10
“The New York Yankees placed CC Sabathia on the 15 day DL – Oblique Strain (Blackberry Pie)”
“The Cincinnati Reds placed Brandon Phillips on the 60 day DL – Broken Leg (Dunk Tank)”
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
It would be terrible if a player signed up for the dunk tank, then suddenly realized he can’t swim.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell, the fall will probably kill ya
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
And that shot
could be the same one from the Frank and Jesse James movie that Tyrone Power and Henry Fonda were in
I will be surprised if fielder doesn't pick braun
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did we forget about Dre?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jun 30, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Player Batting Games
Choose games over multiple seasons.
Choose opponent
Choose visitor
Choose HR greater than or equal to 1
i guess you can then sort by # of home runs on the spreadsheet as long as you make sure you’re using the right column.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Trying to learn how to use their system. sorting by Game, Season or Event isn’t intuitive at all for what I was trying to find.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
you said “at Arizona” which got me thinking. Player who attended UA with the most MLB home runs? Kenny Lofton with 130.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Andres Torres with golden sombrero today
0 for 6 with 4 K’s.
top of the 13th. Have just checked in with that game a few times while doing some writing but wow, these two offenses have to at least give the Dodgers’ futility a run for its un-money.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And right as I say that, Panda hits one out to take the lead 2-1
in 13th
my bad (for anyone who cares).
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Giants try to close out the Cubs Part II. Rockies bullpen melted down too. Not a great day for NL West bullpens. Atleast we didn’t play today. Can’t blame ours.
Down 2-1 in extra innings and down to their last strike the Cubs get a double. Then the next batter down to his last strike drives in the run. All tied at 2 again. /smiles
Well that works since the Giants tend to lose
when they only score 2 runs and also when they give up 5 runs.
Bullpen gives up 4 runs, that’s like 2 weeks for them
Well that works since the Giants tend to lose
.
when they only score 2 runs and also when they give up 5 runs.
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by meercatjohn on Jun 30, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
.229/.255/.458. Career year!
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He took lessons
from Willie Mays Hayes. “Hey man, I’m a power hitter now.”
I screwed him out of SB on the last game of the season last year.
Or maybe the year before. Then like 5 weeks later he got the stolen base back. Not sure how they pulled that off
Giants lose
Cubs with a great comeback. Soto three run walk off in the 13th.
dfa navarro
make miles the backup catcher
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I wouldn't put someone I actually care about back there
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could just leave Ellis and Barajas when RoBar comes back, but there’s really no reason for it. You already have to pay Navarro his whole contract, and Ellis isn’t likely to do any better, so you might as well send Ellis back down.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
We might as well and see if Ellis can be the back up next year
or can replace those two as the starter for much less. The bar is kinda low.
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Haven't we already seen he can be a major league backup?
I have no problem with him being the backup next year.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
might as well see if he can start then
so we don’t pay robar and navarro 5 million next year
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I would take him over Robar at 4 million
or navarro at anything though. Catcher is going to suck next year no matter what I’m thinking.
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Well yeah, but there (in theory) should be better options out there.
I have no problem with Ellis as the backup.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not, but we’re gonna have at least one position manned by a non prospect next year, might as well see if it can be Ellis.
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
No way
Oeltjen is the 4th outfielder of the future
/kind of serious
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't want to be the first one to say it
I would rather keep him around then the other guys, and see what he can do. His walk rate is up….
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I'd rather have Gwynn Jr.
His D is awesome. I like Oeltjen too though. There are others who could get cut instead.
"Fast just got Faster"
at some point you say
hey, we have 500 outfielders, theres no more room
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That or Tray can wait until September
and try to get his on base above .400 and stop striking out 30% of his ABs in the meantime.
"Fast just got Faster"
There’s really no pressing need to call up Trayvon (really you could make a similar case to call up Kyle Russell.) Sands should probably come back up soon though.
by Michael White on Jun 30, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm def expecting sands in the next couple weeks
but I think that was managements plan all along anyways
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the need would be to see if Trayvon can help for 2012
I’d like to see him play the entire 2nd half this year, so we get a better feel for if he can help next year…or if he’s just trade bait.
Waiting till september to play him wont give him enough abs at the mlb level to determine how much help he’d be in 2012
man i want to see Kyle Russell in the bigs :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 30, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Towers did accomplish this
the D-Backs, though 4th in MLB in strikeouts (batting), they are on pace to drop about 20% from last year’s MLB leading 1529 strikeouts. Their OPS remained constant from 2010 to 2011. Actually, their names appear to be about the same as last year except for striking out.
Wily Mo will fix that right quick.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
man
12 SO in 26 ABs so far. He does have an ops over 800 though
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Getting rid of Reynolds pretty much did the trick did it not?
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Yep. Roberts is turning back into a pumpkin though.
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
April OPS: 1.007
May: .729
June: .652
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's dig deeper then superficial stats:)
Baseball HQ analysis:
Latest Player Analysis :
6/25/2011 – Is Ryan Roberts for real? … Entering the 2011 season, Ryan Roberts (3B, ARI) was scratching and clawing in hopes of just making the major league roster, let alone a starting role with the Diamondbacks. Look how things worked out …
Year AB BA xBA h% bb% HR RBI OPS PX SB Spd SBO G/L/F BPV
= = == == = === == = == === == = = == =
2009 305 .279 .250 32% 12% 7 25 .779 88 7 104 10% 38/19/43 49
2010 66 .197 .216 23% 4% 2 9 .580 112 0 72 0% 39/10/51 10
2011 225 .258 .276 28% 12% 10 32 .805 133 9 93 20% 36/20/45 84
Roberts, who spent most of the 2010 season at Triple-A Reno, struggled during his limited stint in the majors last year, giving little reason to have any expectations for fanalytic contributions in 2011. Looking at the BPI over almost three months, it looks like Roberts is more of a late bloomer than a fluke …
.
Roberts isn’t hitting for a high average, but the xBA says that he can deliver a tolerable BA for somebody with this kind of power upside.
Speaking of power upside, Roberts PX is certainly trending in the right direction year-to-year. His June PX (152) says there could be further power growth.
Thanks to his improved ability to take a bb% and aforementioned power-hitting prowess, Roberts has taken a step forward when compared to historical OPS levels.
As if the HR ability were not enough, Roberts is showing the ability to steal bases. While Roberts’ Spd won’t grab our attention, his SBO trend will.
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The kicker? For leagues that require just one game for positional eligibility, Roberts is a goldmine as he qualifies at 3B, 2B, SS and OF. We don’t want to go overboard when recommending a 30 year-old who has just over 600 ABs at the major league level, but until we see otherwise, enjoy the ride.
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You win.:) What the heck is PX though?
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by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
b-ref you can GFY with these
autoplaying audio ads
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Some people just hate it for useful internet sites to make money. But yes, they are irritating but not as irritating as NOT to have the history of baseball at fingertips in a wonderful format for searching.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
You are going to pull that card on me?
The guy who actively argues against adblock every time it comes up? Most adds I’ll put up with, but starting audio if I leave your page open and forcing me to hunt down where it is coming from is about as heinously annoying as advertising can get.
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Who do you have me confused with?
The guy who actively argues against adblock every time it comes up?
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adblock makes it so ads never load for you at all
and lots of folks use it. Its heinous imho.
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Happy birthday
Garrett Anderson, Mark Grudzielanek and Delwyn Young.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Angels getting sued by former radio host David Smith, who alleged racism.
In a complaint filed in California Superior Court earlier this month, David Smith alleged that the Angels Baseball Foundation rigged a singles promotion to ensure a black woman did not win and that Angels employees regularly made racist remarks.
Smith claimed that the Angels did not allow another employee on a radio show because he sounded “too black” and “too ghetto” for an Orange County audience. His complaint also stated that co-workers said negative results were to be “expected when a Jew is hired as baseball’s commissioner.”
The Angels are racist against all non latino's
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David Smith?
We talkin’ ‘bout David Smith?
I thought we were talkin’ ’bout someone credible …
David Smith could audition to be the next replacement for Bozo the Clown.
by 68elcamino427 on Jun 30, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently
teams like the Blazers, despite selling out and being under the cap, aren’t profitable, which is one of the reasons for this lockout.
The Blazers had a payroll of ~$69 million last year, about $11 million over the cap.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Deadspin had a very good article on how a team can be “losing 27 million” on paper while still making money hand over fist.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 30, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
read that this morning, great article. Who knew players were depreciating assets whose loss in value over the course of a season could be written off on your taxes…twice.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I’ve been saying it forever but why listen to me
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Who knew players were depreciating assets
Not Ned Colletti?
by Eric Stephen on Jun 30, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He thinks they’re deprecating assholes
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
Especially that Brad Penny douche. :-)
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Bill Shaikin tweets about baseball
#Angels to wear “LA” caps vs. #Dodgers Sunday, on national ESPN telecast (Throwback uniform game, #Dodgers wearing Brooklyn unis)
oh god I can't wait to hear the whining about this
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if it’s an actual throwback from when they played in LA, good on em. If they just created LA hats, GFY
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
they have legit la hats
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personally, I think this in theory. My problem with it is:
a) The Brooklyn Dodgers didn’t exist in 1961
b) This should happen at Chavez Ravine
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with B
it is silly but it is the earliest uniform the angels ever had so…
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no I get the why, actually, it’s funny, this is the first time the Dodgers will wear their throwback road uniforms on the road
by Josie Becker on Jun 30, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
x assuming they are these
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I'm ticked off now
was supposed to go to this game until family stuff came up
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Blog down new post up top
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/6/30/2253330/minor-league-game-thread-6-30-11
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