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Bet the Under: Phillie Preview

Manager: Charlie Manual (35 - 24)

Current: The Phillies are in a bit of the doldrums. They have the best record in baseball, but have been struggling lately, going 5 - 5 over their last ten games. Just yesterday they broke a three game losing streak, foiling the Pirates attempt to sweep them in the inter-state series.  Chase Utley the baseball player is back playing second, but Chase Utley the hitter has yet to show up. The offense is no better then the Dodgers (both have a wRC of 90) but the rotation is oh so very good. As good as the Dodger rotation is, Doc is better then Clayton. Cliff Lee is better then Billingsley, Cole Hamels is oh so much better then Kuroda, and Roy Oswalt is better then Ted Lilly. With Garland we had them in the number five slot as Blanton was awful before hitting the DL twice. The Phillies lost Brad Lidge just as we lost Mr. Broxton. The Phillies lost Jose Contreras who had filled in nicely for Lidge, just as we lost Kuo. That is where it stopped, as Ryan Madsen stepped in and has been excellent in the role of closer.  They do not need much bullpen work, these guys pitch a long time.

Key Additions: Cliff Lee

Key Subtractions: Jayson Werth, Dobbs

Key Injuries: Lidge, Blanton

1st Base: Ryan Howard is Ryan Howard, overrated but still dangerous with a bat against RHP.

2nd Base: Chase Utley is back but so far his bat has not followed him. Currently posting an OPS of .666, he is the number of the beast. 

Shortstop: Rollins is hurt, not sure if he will play this series. If not, Wilson Valdez will get the nod. Jamey Carroll has been the fourth best offensive SS in the NL, Mr. Rollins is fifth. 

3rd Base: Placido Polanco continues to do what he does best, hit singles and play great defense. We should all be pleasantly surprised by who is on top of the FanGraphs Leaderboard in 3rd base offense.

Catcher: Dodger killer Carlos Ruiz is still here. For those who have forgotten, Mr. Ruiz boasts a NL career OPS best career line against the Dodgers of .981. 

Right Fielder: Top prospect Dominic Brown was given the job a few weeks ago and now leads this team in OPS+ with a 126 mark. The multi-talented Brown is doing his best to fill the void left by the uber-productive Werth.

Center Fielder: Shane Victorino was having his best offensive season before he went down with an injury on May 18th. He just came off the DL so the pest will be in CF for all three games.

Left Fielder: Ibanez endured an 0 - 35 streak early in the year but since the streak ended has posted an .913 OPS in 130 plate appearances. He is their hottest hitter.

Bench: Dobbs is gone, so Wilson Valdez, Ben Francisco, and John Mayberry are the main components.

Game One Stater: Cliff Lee may be playing second fiddle to Roy Halladay but we all know he's a legitimate ace. He has given up 10 runs in his last two starts but his peripherals are outstanding. He now has a 10.13 K rate with a miniscule walk rate. 

Game Two Starter: Roy Oswalt has a glimmering ERA of 2.70 even with a K rate that has fallen to a career low of 5.8. Oswalt has not given up more then two earned runs in his last four starts.

Game Three Starter: Cole Hamels is great. Nothing else to say.

Bullpen: Ryan Madsen finally grabbed the closer job by the horns and does not appear to be letting go. Jose Contreras has found a second life as a very successful setup man. I'm only going to talk about these two because, that is probably all this rotation will need.

MatchUps :

This starters trio should dominate a Dodger offense that had some fun against the Reds pitching. The Dodger rotation will need to do the same. These guys are stingy with their walks; if Loney gets on base more then twice in this three game series against the starting pitching, I'll be shocked. The highly anticipated matchup of Oswalt against Rubby should be the highlight of this series. Maybe Rubby can do for the Dodgers what Oswalt did for the Astros. When Oswalt made his debut start on 6/2/2001, almost exactly a decade ago, he did so after originally  pitching out of the bullpen, just as Rubby has done. The Astros would go on to win the Central Division that year behind the 14 - 3 record of Oswalt, whose electric stuff was just the shot in the arm the Astros needed.

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who is the best offensive 3rd baseman in the NL right now with at least 100 plate appearances?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Casey Blake

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

bingo

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yay!

I took a gamble that he had actually gotten 100 PAs(102)

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only reason I didn't guess The Beard

I guess yesterday brought him over the hump in terms of PAs.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd is Dobbs

Polanco leads in WAR because of his defensive numbers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never really know what offensive metric is used to rank players properly…I assumed WAR because most people seem to think it’s adequate, though I know next to nothing about (semi-) advanced baseball stats. PP leads in BA as well, right?

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

For me when I do offensive stats I use either:
wRC from Fangraphs or OPS+ from Baseball Reference.

I don’t use WAR other then for information purposes since it uses the flawed current season defensive metric in it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

oWAR is okay, see a lot of people using OPS, OPS+ and wOBA

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The singles machine

Placido Polanco

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake

/you hinted at this in the article

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy a lot of your questions being something you mention in the previews.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's how he finds out

who is actually reading them. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did the Astros used to have a pitcher named Ruddy?

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 6, 2011 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang

I’m going to have to do a find for Ruddy everytime I write about Rubby.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ruddy Lugo was in the Dodgers system too, wasn’t he?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT E3 Comment

Dear Microsoft,

This Kinect shit is stupid.

Sincerely,

An adult

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jun 6, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

The really need to get back to making games with overly muscular men

and overly sexualized females where they shoot lots of shit and cuss a lot. Oh wait, they still do.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

they could kinect-ify la noire with voice commands

pick up random thing. pick it up. turn it around. walk to other random thing. badger witness.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jun 6, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean exactly what they said they are doing with ME3?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how they redesigned Lara Croft to look like an actual woman, then decided their big trailer would have her getting groped by a bunch of men.

Also the Kinect is an amazing piece of technology.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Kinect is amazing

I do agree that it so far hasn’t impressed me in its gaming related applications, but that does not diminish how awesome it is to me.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s gonna take a while for people to find the best ways to take advantage of the technology, but that’s no different than any other piece of gaming hardware released.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah so far the games are goofy as hell

but its cool they made the code available to modders and such cuz theyve been doing some really cool stuff with the tech..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jun 6, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cole Hamels is a fine pitcher, but I would think the Phillies’ biggest advantage rotationwise would be in Oswalt-Lilly.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

You’d be wrong.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Using what metric? There’s no need to be flippant.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Using the “Oswalt isn’t as good as he used to be and Lilly has had two straight good starts”. He’s not being flippant, he’s just ignoring reputation (as he should) and dealing in the present.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If “the present” means this year, Bills and Lee have been very comparable.

Roy Oswalt has an ERA+ of 143 this year and last year. I’m not sure what reputation has to do with it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

What Phil said.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That goes off era

of course he would look better. You need something that takes ks, bb, hr, ip into account as well

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 6, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fangrapsh WAR has Hamels number two in the NL at 2.6, Kuroda is not even on the first page this year.

Since Oswalt has not pitched every game like Lilly we can use the TSL of ERA/FIP/xFIP
Oswalt – 2.70/ 3.40 / 3.81
Lilly – 4.22 / 4.26 / 3.88

For Hamels / Kuroda
Hamels 2.83 / 2.47 / 2.56
Kuroda 3.46 / 3/38 / 3.65

Hamels is more then a fine pitcher, he is one of three pitchers you can debate about being the best left hander in the NL.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess more than anything I’m surprised that Lilly has an XFIP of 3.88. The other two elements of TSL bear out my point better.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder if Cormier gets paid the whole sum of his contract upon release or if he gets paid on the normal schedule.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I believe it is on the normal schedule unless it was written otherwise.

If he signs with another team, presumably for the minimum, the amount the Dodgers would have to pay would be reduced by whatever amount he is paid by another team.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rangers are looking for right-handed relievers and have a number of trade chips to offer other teams. Rosenthal speculates Texas could offer Taylor Teagarden to the Giants for a righty arm, or possibly Chris Davis to the Padres or another team that is looking for offensive help.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Rosenthal speculates

I stopped reading there :-p

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Link or it didn’t happen.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry boss

link

it’s down toward the end

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see James sitting today but playing Tuesday and Wednesday

In 23 PA against Cole Hamels, James Loney has a 1.292 OPS with 3 HR and a double with 2 walks and 4 strike outs, he is only 1 for 11 against Oswalt with 3 walks and a Sac Fly and he is 0 for 6 against Cliff Lee with a strike out.

Note that most of his damage against Hamels came in the NLCS, he did not face Hamels in 2010.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Sit for who though?

Sands is probably going down for Thames. and Gibbons and Gwynn are also lefties

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well if Uribe is back

They could move Blake to first and play the mighty Aaron Miles at 3B

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Had not thought of that. I don’t think they would do this, but it is a possible scenario

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake is my starting 1B on my simulation game on my phone

but I traded Loney for Beltre straight up somehow, so it seems more game than simulation now.

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 6, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you say such a thing?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies bench

I know it is difficult to keep track of the bench players for other teams, but John Mayberry was sent back to AAA a little while ago. My favorite website MLB Depthcharts can be your friend in situations like these.

Phillies bench is:
Bench
C Dane Sardinha
1B/OF Ross Gload*
IF Wilson Valdez
IF/OF Michael Martinez
OF Ben Francisco

by Xeifrank on Jun 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks, was trying to get done by 12:00, the bench is not something I spend time on. Michael Martinez is not going to play any role in this series.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, if he does – we are probably either in really good shape or really bad shape. :)

by Xeifrank on Jun 6, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah
A “projectable” player is tall

Shouldn’t it be, tall AND skinny?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh. if they are tall and fat, you expect them to thin out. If they are tall and skinny, yo expect them to thin out. Or, if not “expect”, you “project” them to :)

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

tall AND not built of pure muscle then

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, sure. If he was tall and pure muscle he wouldn’t be much of a pitcher. Unless, you know, it’s Kevin Brown.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kyle Farnsworth has been in baseball for many years!

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shocking, to be sure.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m enjoying the fact Tampa is giving him the ball. He’s always been a fav of mine, cool that he ended up with the Rays and is doing better then Benoit or Soriano at a huge discount.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh I see why G Scott loves this article
A pitcher who draws comparisons to Tom Glavine or Jamie Moyer will probably be bad
Comparing a young pitcher to Glavine or Moyer is another way of saying “well his stuff isn’t very good at all.” Pitchers who don’t have very good stuff generally hit the wall in AA or so. The reason Glavine and Moyer are cited so often when discussing a soft-tossing lefty is because so few soft-tossing lefties actually make it.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

:) one of many reasons. I like any article that helps describe and clarify terminology moe than just saying “Player X is good because of Stat Y”

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

so

what are the drinking game phrases?

Hitter hands has to be one :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don’t use gritty until the second round

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

projects/projectable

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

or

anything close to or related to “best arm I’ve ever seen”

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Scouts love his makeup”
“Brien Taylor”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Phil advising us to bet the under?

I wouldn’t do so in any Ted Lilly (band box) pitched game. I’m not touching this one with a ten foot pole.

by Xeifrank on Jun 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Bet the over. Ted Lilly is going 7ip 1ER, but Oswalt is going to get lit the fuck up.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like Eric I was a bit surprised to find out just how bad the Phillie offense has been this year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

When your offense has been Ryan Howard (who is not very good) and seven other guys, it’s not hard to imagine.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

found a crazy Ryan Howard stat that shocked even me. Will be in today’s preview.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

OPSing a little under .800 since last August?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He makes a lot of money?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

worth every penny

/heyman

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has been on more episodes of The Office than Michael Scott?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols got POTW in the NL

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Albert Pujols:Battle::Matt Kemp: War

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back to back walk offs on Sat/Sun will get it done. Plus 5 home runs and an incredible OPS. Talk about coming out of hibernation.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess even Matt Kemp’s awesome weekend in Cincy wasn’t enough to overcome two walkoffs from the hitting machine that mans first base for the red birds.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be at the game tonight!

Tickets are on the third base side not too far up. I’ll be wearing a blue fitted Dodgers hat and a white Dodgers jersey (Kershaw).

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

So you’re saying you’ll be easy to spot.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the recent attendance at DS

I’m sure it’ll be a piece of cake. :-)

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

aren’t they in Philly today?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes.

that’s why I wasn’t quite sure what he meant with attendance.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 6, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still on weekend time

I have no idea what’s happening anywhere in the world.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty excited about tonight's game

i also might be going to the Giants v. Nationals game tonight.

ok, that’s all. back to work. :-\

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Jun 6, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Going to work and not having anything to do is like playing dress up for money.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Going to work and not doing anything you’re supposed to be doing but still getting paid is like playing naptime for money. :-)

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good thing I never leave the valley.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who the hell planned this

morons

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

they have to re-do the bridge. I’m surprised they’re moving this fast, to be completely honest.

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like the other bridges

(Palm a couple years back, Sunset and Rimington Skirball currently) they are talking down half at a time. Another weekend closure is coming 12-18 months from now for the other half. Mulholland demolition could be fun to watch, if one could – that sucker is pretty high up there.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never did like that movie theatre.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good God

I’m not driving ANYWHERE that weekend.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sands stays!

Carroll SS
Miles 2B
Thames LF
Kemp CF
Uribe 3B
Blake 1B
Sands RF
Barajas C
Lilly P

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

so...

who got sent down?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

If nobody hurt, almost has to be IDJ/Uribe

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Ely for Hawk

but who got sent down for thames?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess was IDJ & Castro, which I mis-typed as Uribe.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Navarro. Barajas says we got this.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I re-emphasize my prediction yesterday that Gibbons is DFA'd?

I took it off the table but now think it may be happening…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would really surprise me

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's been a weird season

But while odds are against it, I want to get 10 TBLA points if available.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

33 1/3

I should have made it a contest

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Hawksworth hasn’t been taken off the DL yet and he’s just in town to workout with the team? Sending Ely down isn’t a thing cause he wasn’t going to pitch today anyway.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure how you can say “I’m going to play him everyday” and then send him down.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The statement was more “he needs to play every day.” which is easily answered with “that’s why we’re sending him to AAA.”

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh i got it third or fourth hand, so i thought he actually said Sands would be in the daily MLB lineup.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were a lot of things that have been said over the last 2 weeks, but every time D2X was pressed for something definite, he said “well, we have some decisions to make…”

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lyons/Collins said it definitively …if not Karros and that other guy. It was presented definitively.

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do I get TBLA points for

predicting Miles and Uribe in and Loney sitting today?

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

all righty

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thames hitting third for the first time since high school.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s got hitters hands, and betty davis eyes.

by Xeifrank on Jun 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW WOW WOW

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait ’til you catch up on the comments.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now we just have to make sure Ethier didn’t go on the DL.

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

oh god

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the exact same thing

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

sobering

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did something happen to him in Cincy?

I watched most of the game and can’t remember anything that would cause him to miss two weeks…

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year, the pinky thing happened in pre-game BP.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we do it retroactive to when he last hit a ball hard? He’d be available to come off in two days.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was injured while being shooed-in to the all-star game by Steiner.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, it’s just Cliff Lee is pitching this is a perfect time to give Ethier a night off.

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This seems logical to me.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies minus J-Roll

Victorino CF
Polanco 3B
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Francisco LF
Ruiz C
Brown RF
Valdez SS
Lee P

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss “Winning Team” “Losers Lineup” and Good Guys/bad Guys.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we get to .500 or play the Giants, it shall return

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, June 10?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Ruiz gets sodomized by an elephant.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jun 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

FTFY
I hope Ruiz gets sodomized by an elephant’s trunk.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

same thing.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dylan H says Ethier is out of the lineup, but nothing about him being on the DL

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds like Gibbons got the boot
#Dodgers bench: Gwynn, Ethier, Loney, Navarro, Castro.

From Dylan H

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d rather have Gibbons than Castro.

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just finished. Completely shocked.

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess not hitting with Gibbons level defense will do that.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can feel from here

Joey Joe itching to comment.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s been itching since my spring training fanpost. I’m just waiting for the hammer to fall.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

lie with dogs, you itch

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 6, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, IDJ, Ely and Gibbons got the boot.

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Gibbons, but it’s the right move for this team. He’ll catch on elsewhere. He’s got to do the waivers thing, right?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

To the (phantom or otherwise) DL, I’m guessing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 extra credit TBLA points for underdog?

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by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is an endangered species

I liked the Facebook page.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jun 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

crazy

i really didn’t see that coming

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither did he.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

zing

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it better to have Gibbons and Sands or just Sands?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Official

IDL optioned, Castro & Gibbons DFA

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Castro DFA'd?

Hurrah! A red letter day for us all.

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by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whaaaat?

Ely staying up in case he’s needed Tuesday? I doubt he can be ready that soon after 58 pitches on Sunday.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I conflated two tweets. Really shocked by the Gordon move

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it bad that I don’t know who IDL is?

by Xeifrank on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ivan DeLoons

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

you can’t just post that and leave it open ended. BOTH OF YOU

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun stuff...

Just glad they decided Gibbons was the goner.

@foryourhandicap

by uclatroy on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And FUCKING GORDON????

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

WHAT?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

little help?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t have less than five guys that can play shortstop on the roster.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe, Carroll, Miles (sort of, in a pinch), Gordon. Am I missing someone?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was just a guess.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake has 1 career start at both SS and 2B :)

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m reading down this thread after lunch getting more and more shocked.

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shinikes

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy sheeeeeeeet!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

YURRRRRRRRRR

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moves

IDJ, Ely optioned
Castro, Gibobns DFA

Gordon called up plus Hawk, Uribe, Thames activated

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh good lord. Whew. You guys made it sound like Dee was DFAed or something.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eight player roster exchange

Holy crap!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gordon notwithstanding, the team's roster instantly got a lot better today.

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by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Tal Smith in the Dodgers FO or something?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usually you pay double for this amount and type of action.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is a plan to give

all Dodger draft picks hope they can someday make the team.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Fuck this roster, I want a new one on my desk by tomorrow or you’re fired”.

If Dee doesn’t start every game until Furcal is back, it’s a waste and a half.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Panic switch thrown again.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never too late to panic, but it’s always too soon.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is shocking

Still on Frank's team!

by delias man on Jun 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Just wait til Macdougal is DFA'd later and they call up Shawn Tolleson. ;-)

this place will explode.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I had a 22.50 K/9 last night, call me up :)

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d take you right after Starlin Castro in my franchise draft.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you had the Colon-oscopy yet?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, too bad you weren’t at TBLA BBQ night or this would be as funny to you as it is to me.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troncoso makes more sense

Mac is doing the job for the right price. I wouldn’t mind Tolleson for Lindblom though.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just throwing out a veteran unexpectedly DFA'd...

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by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's your velocity? Is it better than an unladen swallow?

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by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

so then

what else besides wood floats on water?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the big question is

could it carry a coconut as those are not native in Britain.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whose kings believe they are king because some watery tart threw a sword at them.

by The Dude Abides on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

was told low 80’s. No idea, to be honest. I was just being funny.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely unscientific - strike two on me was probably about 83-84. The one that was up and in was about 175. :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh stupid shortcuts

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

how many strikethroughs did you have?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a nose on my smiley face. :-(

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did say at the bar afterwards I didn’t mean for high and tight to be quite that high and tight :) Though, it worked out okay.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, no worries. I was looking outside so I was leaning in before the rude awakening. Just not what I was expecting in my first real at-bat in 15 years.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is funny. :)

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

aww strikethroughs.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Law of averages says

he’d have to do something right eventually. :-)

In all seriousness, I hope this infusion of youth and getting some people back healthy is just the kick in the pants the team needs to get on a little winning streak here…seems like the Blue Crew hasn’t won more than three in a row all year.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

t seems that way because they haven’t. Won three in a row twice.

Thanks David.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh

Well, there you go.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Gordon really has improved his defense!

by wonderphenom on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

If nothing else he'll be fun to watch

even if just as a pinch runner extraordinaire ;-)

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by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree completely – he’ll give the team a lift simply with his base stealing thread. Now we have two, along with Gwynn.

by wonderphenom on Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems more likely he can be used as a base stealing threat and save Gwynn for his intended role.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok, how smug is Joey Joe going to be

about the Gibbons DFA
about the “kids” getting a chance to play

I’m going with “extremely” ;)

Also…uh…is this a “these people are cheaper” move?

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

No, now Dee will make about 350K more this year.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He will have to change his Ned narrative though. Once someone picks Joey Joe up off the floor.

And no, Gibbons and Castro still make their money.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. All those DFA’d guys still get paid.

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee should actually get a nice reception in Philadelphia

it was the second to last stop for his dad back in 2008 (his last appearance was on July 5, 2008). Flash ended his career in Arizona in 2009.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

you do know

that we are talking about Philadelphia…

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So AAA batteries instead of D-cells?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

nicely played

or as they say on the TV when I am sleeping on the couch on warm Saturday afternoons “Golf Shot”

by Hollywood Joe on Jun 6, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah well

His Dad’s last game was May 3, 2009, so is son is going to make the show a little more than 2 years after that.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

so rational

A. We don’t want to trust 37 year-old Jamey Carroll to play SS everday

B. We don’t want to trust Aaron Miles everyday.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Dee's gonna do more

than just give Gamer and Miles days off though, right? If not, it’s like G.Scott says, it’ll be a waste and a half of his time.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they brought him up, he has to start, I think

Uribe 2B
Gordon SS
Blake 3B
Loney 1B

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carroll is SUCH a better batter though.

I assume.

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasn't he hitting like .300 down there

though it was mostly singles

I can’t wait for him to hit one down the line……. :D

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he posts a wOBA of over .300 in the majors this year I’d be shocked

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

was just going by BA(empty i know)

what’s his wOBA in ABQ?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

.327. I was mostly basing this on the fact that Sands has a wOBA of .291 with the Dodgers

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this means that Blake becomes a permanent spot at 1st base against LHP.. Miles might be getting the biggest hit in at bats.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

[We Win sign]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Losing Carroll’s OBP could definitely sting. Gordon would probably see more time against lefties.

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, against lefties

Blake/Thames – 1B
Carroll/Miles – 2B
Gordon – SS
Uribe – 3B

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m waiting for the post, this is crazy stuff.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I can't remember the last time the Dodgers changed four roster spots in one day during the season

Let alone without a trade involved. Someone invoked Tal Smith earlier, but I’ll go with it’s like Ned is now the Jack McKeon of roster moves.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny part is that the fanpost that got deleted basically implied that Ely would was history, Sands was headed down, and Dee was next year. Instead Ely helps us win a huge game, Sands is playing 1st base, and Dee Gordon is on his way.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was all smoke and mirrors!

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned trolling interns again

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you rearrange the letters in bucknellbruin, you get Colletti Burn. Ok, no you don’t.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shocking delightful, I feel like eating some Lucky Charms

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope Eric was not in a meeting:)

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Let’s get today over with so we can see what tomorrow’s lineup looks like!

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

A Dee Gordon call up

wasn’t even in the FanPost that no longer exists!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Think of all the beer I could have won:)

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s right – as I recall, “he still needs this year in AAA”.

by wonderphenom on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice
Dodgers
Classy move, as expected – Juan Castro among the first to congratulate Dee Gordon, who takes his place on the roster. #Dodgers

by silverwidow on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

that is cool of him

Nicely played Juan

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He knows Ned will resign him in a month or two…

by wonderphenom on Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next move

Dodgers announce Juan Castro accepts new infield coach position for organization.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make that man an assistant to the general manager

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roving Minor League

fielding instructor

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shocked Dee is already there for him to be congratulating him. Didn’t Dee play in ABQ last night? Quick turnaround. Trayvon is sitting there like WHAT THE HELL

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and DeJon Watson is thinking, “OK – now I need to get Tray ready…”

by wonderphenom on Jun 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m equally curious who takes his spot in AAA.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Add Dee Gordon to the Super 2 Watch

Ordinarily, I would think this would be too late in the year to have to consider that, but teams have been holding players back for this reason the past few years.

In truth though, Gordon has the smallest odds to stay with the club the rest of the year (unless Furcal never comes back.)

by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Dodgers tweet
Classy move, as expected – Juan Castro among the first to congratulate Dee Gordon, who takes his place on the roster.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope Castro becomes a coach, did he get a hit in his last ab? If so I wonder how many Dodgers have done so then been DFA’ during the season?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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