Dodgers Select Chris Reed in 1st Round of 2011 Draft
by Brandon Lennox on Jun 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT
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PrintWith the #16 overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Dodgers selected Chris Reed, the 6'4" lefty out of Stanford. His Baseball America scouting report is as follows:
Last year was the first time since 1999 that Stanford didn't have a player selected in the first five rounds of the draft. That won't happen again this year because of Reed, who could go as high as the sandwich round. Reed is listed at 6-foot-4 and 190 pounds, but scouts say he has grown and gained strength from last year to this year. His fastball varies from 89-91 mph some nights to 92-94 on others, and he has touched 96. He'll show a power slider and above-average changeup, but all of his stuff needs more consistency. That should come with experience. Reed has totaled just 60 innings at Stanford and has started only one game. His size, athleticism and three-pitch mix will tempt teams to give him a shot as a starter in pro ball.
Baseball America ranked Reed #60 overall in their pre-draft ranking, although Reed was linked to the Dodgers earlier today. The Dodgers should have no trouble signing Reed for slot money, and potentially could even get him below slot. The fact that the Dodgers went away from their usual draft strategy of selecting the best player available at #16 shows that the takeover by major league baseball definitely had an impact on this draft.
Reed was mostly a reliever in college, but he has a solid 3 pitch mix so the thought is that he'll be a starter in the Dodgers system. During his 2011 junior season, Reed made 28 appearances, with just one of them being a start. He threw 49.1 innings, had a 2.54 ERA, 9 saves, and a .201 batting average against. As a sophomore, Chris appeared in 19 games and had a 6.10 ERA over 20.2 innings.
Since Stanford has made it to the Super Regionals of the College World Series, we will probably get to see Reed pitch before he signs with the Dodgers. When the Cardinal get eliminated (or go all the way), he'll probably sign quickly and may even start his career in a full season league such as the Midwest League.
“He’s an excellent competitor, has three quality pitches, sound mechanics and a great deal of athleticism,” said Assistant GM, Scouting Logan White. “He’s also a smart, local guy who has a fine family background.”
From the Dodgers press release:
The Cleveland High School (Reseda) graduate was rated as the top prospect and earned an All-Star selection in the Atlantic Collegiate Summer League in 2010, posting a 1.09 ERA with 39 strikeouts in 33.0 innings.
Here is the official MLB Draft scouting report of Reed
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I KNOW MORE ABOUT BASEBALL THEN LOGAN WHITE AND I HATE THIS PICK
/troll
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
DITTO!
I AM SO ANGRY! ESPECIALLY AFTER PUNTING LAST YEARS PICK!
@foryourhandicap
by uclatroy on Jun 6, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Following the NBA, NFL, and the MLB draft...
fans always overreact right after the pick, and often end up looking foolish. Only point I am trying to make.
@foryourhandicap
But you and Nolander know crap about this draftee too. That’s what I’m annoyed at, you’re being contrary to being contrary.
I do know nothing.
But it’d be the same way regardless of who they drafted. And getting overly excited or pissed off in that situation is pointless.
And even if I did know, highly touted players can bust, reaches can flourish. Wait and see.
@foryourhandicap
I know more about baseball then Frank McCourt, and its pretty damn clear that this pick was made because of fiances.
/reality
who's fiance?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I'm not happy that we took the #60 guy
when there were so many better players on the board. If he’s a reliever I’m gonna be pissed
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Darren Dreifort
oh, wait.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s got an inefficient leg drive. He’s going to gain velo and if he does have three pitches, he’ll be a signing we all look back on as one that was made as both a signable pick, and one Logan somehow got value out of.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
They’ll convert to SP, right?
Let the Bison roam.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jun 6, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If he has that kind of flaws, and the coaching staff at Stanford wouldn’t or couldn’t fix it, why exactly does that warrant a first round pick?
I’m guessing Dodgers coaches are a little bit better than the Stanford coaches
by Michael White on Jun 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I vaguely remember hearing something
About high schoolers getting worse after playing for Stanford. There’s some sort of reputation here.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Logan White.
This was not the best talent available.
So much talent dropped to us.
He just lost all the credit he got for Zach Lee, in my mind. We could have had someone better than Lee, easy.
LOL
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Josh Bell
Sonny Gray
Daniel Norris
Matt Barnes
Taylor Guerreri
“Lol no, CHRIS REED”
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah this has nothing to do with Logan White...
this was probably the best player they could afford, alas.
And whatever happens, it doesn’t erase his good picks.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
There are better players that can be had for slot.
I suppose I’ll cool down later, but this just reminds me of JMac + Lambo for Dotel.
This better work out.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a list of who we could have had for cheap.
Just the BTA.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Were you going to pay this better player?
If not then don’t blame Logan White.
I don't anything about him but according to all the comments...
It could be one of the worst 1st draft pick made by Logan White??
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
James Adkins over Mike Stanton was way worse
by The Dude Abides on Jun 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot this awful pick...
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
From what I've seen and know, this guy is a lot better than James Adkins, no?
I get the frustration with the pick, though, it clearly has signability/affordability written all over it. As I sorta feared would happen. But he’s not some wasted pick.
Cron goes next to the Angels. Honestly, he seems more like a DH to me…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(and I still don't like the pick, btw, for the record)
clearly it has $ issues behind it. But just saying he’s not just some LOOGY.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
First off
Outside of handful of picks, the Dodgers have almost always paid slot so this is not new. Second, Logan White pretty much disregards all of BA or anyone else’s rankings. Third, I am fairly sure he will be signed sooner than later and assuming whenever Stanford isn’t playing in the NCAAs anymore, he will be signed.
by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
added some info above
i honestly don’t know much about him so i’m just going off of what has been written
Reed has basically no track record of success
he was completely terribly before this year.
It is either a pure scouting pick hoping that he becomes something as a professional that he never has been as an amateur, or a pick based on finances.
Either way, I think there is plenty of reason to question it. Obviously we don’t know how it will work out, but pretending like we can’t criticize the pick now is asinine.
by mattsd on Jun 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Sonny Gray better hopes he grows. I saw pictures of him for Vandy baseball and he looks like a child.
Poor Deuce.
What's the Occam Razor's answer?
That Frank McCourt said that they have no money to sign players over slot, or that White decided to bust his overall trend of drafting power high school pitchers for a college closer?
Logan White has taken multiple college relievers in the first round now. It’s a trend.
@andrewngrant
Looking up Miller’s baseball stats during his time at Baylor, he did start during half of his game he pitched in.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/profile.asp?P=/Aaron-Miller-1.shtml
Chris Reed in comparison never started a game.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/profile.asp?P=chris-reed-2
Personally, I think Josh Lindblom might be a better comparison in terms of picks to Reed, and the Dodgers did try to convert Lindblom to a starter at one point.
Well that’s a relief, he might be Josh Lindblom.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m thinking White knows he won’t be allowed to go over slot this year, and he sees something from a scouting perspective that trumps all the negatives surrounding the pick.
by JonWeisman on Jun 6, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like he blossomed in the summer league, Stanford’s coach says he came back more aggressive and just better. White surely saw something. I’m shy of criticizing after complaining last year that he has signed a pitcher he’d never sign.
Let the Bison roam.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jun 6, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Rumors last weekend that the Astros were already in negotiations with Reed at 11, obviously that didn’t happen.
Let the Bison roam.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jun 6, 2011 5:47 PM PDT reply actions
Chris Reed went to high school with and graduated the same year as my sister. This could be interesting, I’ll see if she knows him.
Poor Deuce.
Me: Did you know Chris Reed?
Sis: Yeah, hahaha, do you know him?
Me: He just got drafted by the dodgers.
Sis: Oh SHIT
Me: What’s he like?
Sis: Golden god! He’s tall as fuck and hunky.
Well, he’s “projectable”.
Poor Deuce.
I wonder if he'll sign for
$13,000 and partial ownership of a parking lot in Boston.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tall as fuck and hunky
sounds toolsy
Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?
He’ll play well with Lemmermann.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jun 6, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hunkability Scale
Matt Kemp: 70 hunk (on the 20/80 hunk scale)
Chris Reed: 60 hunk (scouted by sister of Maddz)
Josh Lindblom: 40 hunk
Aaron Miles: 30 hunk
by Jack Huber on Jun 6, 2011 6:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I read that
as if you were Rihanna and the first post was referring to yourself in the first person. Many lols were had.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Gerrit Cole illustrates the difference between MLB, NBA, and NFL drafts
UCLA becomes just the 2nd school (LSU) to have #1 overall draft picks in the NBA (Jabbar/Walton), NFL (Aikman) and MLB (Cole)
Larry Bowa prefers Lexi Belle
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess the Dodgers are done drafting for today?
lol, what a joke.
15 teams
including the Dodgers, Angels, Yankees, Philadelphia and Oakland have one pick, Philly, White Sox and Yankees don’t draft until the Supplemental round.
not even close
to being the same thing
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
First round draft pick. Total bust.
I’m mad, let me be mad.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Its not Chris Reed’s fault that he got drafted where he is. But if the consensus is that he’s was supposed to be drafted much later based on talent and ability he and the Dodgers have to show that it was the right decision.
Well, bad comparison.
I don’t think he’ll bust, just that it’s inadvisable to choose a set-up man in the first round.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Not the first Dodger pick of that draft.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Being mad
is a waste of energy generally, being mad about this is waste of life. Just my opinion.
by bhsportsguy on Jun 6, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'ing this
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
not to pick on you but..
“LOOK AT HOW MUCH I DONT CARE”
There are “above it all” people like this on every board.
Translations -" it makes me feel bad when you criticize the team I support. So even when its justified, I’ll just tell people to not care about it because they are more important things in life."
because there is none
that’s all immaturity right there
deal with the fact there are people who disagree with you Joey Joe
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
“tell people to not care” and “don’t be mad” are not equal.
And your title line is utter BS and you know it. You know full well tp whom you are replying.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
its complete condescension...
BHsportsguy is made uncomfortable when people criticize the Dodgers.
And he’ll usually try to make some counterpoint or something.
But when there arent many points to be made, he instead breaks out the “dont be mad, there are more important things in life to worry about”…
Are you serious?
There are people like this on every single board I’ve ever been around.
Its like…none of us would be here if we didnt care about the Dodgers.
So dont tell me to not be mad…the reason we post here is because we care about the Dodgers, and when they do stupid shit we get upset. Thats part of being a fan.
If I didnt care about the team, I wouldnt care who they drafted and there’d be no emotion at all…and if you have no emotion in sports…you arent a fan. You’re an observer.
And i dont think any of us are merely ‘oberservers’.
by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
That has nothing to do with what he wrote above though.
He’s merely suggesting people could maybe not break plate glass windows about the Dodgers first draft pick out of 50. Obviously not everyone will want to or will follow that advice, but the suggestion seemed pretty welcome imho.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
you're assuming a lot
but if you’re gonn rail against everything the team does you don’t agree with, you’re going to be mad more than than happy at anything.
There are people like this on every single board I’ve ever been around
they’re called grown-ups
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
imo sports or being a sports fan isnt about being a grown up
Its adults playing kid games.
Its a way to escape.
To take the emotion out of it (be it good or bad) is defeating the whole purpose.
do as you wish
but harm none
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
You can’t escape by constantly throwing people who disagree with you under the bus.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
i like vigorous debate
its intellectually stimulating IMO.
I dont take anything personally and I assume no one else does.
to think you can say whatever you want and no one will react emotionally? You must not think very highly of what you say.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Its a messageboard, if you truely get upset or feelings hurt typing to people you’ve never met…then thats on you.
not to pick on you, but
you have to take responsibility for what you say as well.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
“Here’s my position; I’m right and you are wrong” isn’t a debate.
You’ll find that people appreciate you a lot more is you assume that people do take things personally.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
But they shouldn’t take things personally. If they do, they have a character defect. Not my fault.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I do hear that argument a lot. Mostly from assholes. And dead people.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Mostly from assholes.
Yes I am.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course that might be hard to catch
When you never think of other commenters as actual people.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This is such BS
You know a place like DT has rules because they don’t believe in that attitude. People here have made actual friends because we treat each other as, well, people. This may be in written form, and can be semi-anonymous, but it is still human interaction.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Here, let me help him out
But they shouldn’t take things personally. If they do, they have a character defect. Not my fault.
:P
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
then be mad
but if you try to bring up facts to prove your point, prepare for people to counter you
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers have had 10 picks in the first two rounds since 2007.
40% of them have gone to College Relievers. This is a trend.
@andrewngrant
What I meant was a scouting director who had success with another team, R.J. Harrison of the Rays for instance.
Unless you just want to say he was lucky
Logan White has pretty much as good of credentials as amateur scouting director as anyone in baseball.
If the Dodgers wanted to make him the GM, I think he would have been at this point. I’m getting to the point where a wholesale regime change is probably inevitable. Might as well get a guy who is just as well regarded as White.
I am pretty sure
as much as I can be that the Dodgers had a limit they could spend (which they always do) and that given the depth of young pitching that they do have (Gould, Lee, Cash), they went for someone with a little more polish and perhaps the days of just getting high school kids with good stuff is changing for Logan.
ok to be fair
a lot of times kids who were starters in high school go to a school as a reliever because they don’t have starter positions opened. Or tell them that they will be starters and then make them relievers (Hey, Gary) and the kids play that position because they want to play baseball.
I am totally not worried because if they can take pitchers and make them position players and position players and make them catchers, then it’s a bit hard to project what Reed will do/will be based on his position at the draft.
Poor Deuce.
Stanford had several years to look at Reed and at no time did they say “we want this guy to throw more than one inning at a time”.
The list of college relievers who have gone on to be worth a damn is very small. Could Reed be the exception? Sure, why not, I didn’t care about the guy before today so maybe there’s something, but history is really against him.
@andrewngrant
its scary to turn a college reliever into a starter tho...
Way too much risk there not knowing if their arms will hold up or if its even possible.
And if you are just content with drafting a reliever, then its not a good usage of a 1st round pick. A relief pitcher has value, but not as much as a starter or everyday position player.
yeah.
That’s the only year before 2011 in which college relievers were drafted. That by no means constitutes a trend.
Poor Deuce.
Still don’t see how you classify Miller as a relief pitcher. Seems a stretch
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
and 1/2 were not, and without looking since he was a two way I’m going to say his last year had more starts then relief which is what counts.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sure
19 games, 8 starts, but he was a position player too. Not like he was only a reliever. He’s a weird case.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
First of all: 3 out of 10 is 40%? I’m no math major, but that seems…wrong. ;) (no but seriously)
Secondly: Miller as in Aaron Miller, right? He was a two-way player who stopped playing outfield after what appears to be shoulder surgery. He counts as a reliever? That might open up your data quite a bit.
Poor Deuce.
I was just surprised that 3 out of 10 = 40%. That was off the cuff. The other stuff – like asking you about 2007 – I did while knowing the answer.
Poor Deuce.
3/10=.4 for extremely low values of 10.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Adkins, Lindblom, Miller, Reed = 4.
College reliever might be pushing it, but then how about “low ceiling college guy”
@andrewngrant
I always thought that Martin was a high school guy with #2 upside and electric stuff
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t remember the scouting report, but right about HS guy.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Though he was quite old for a high school guy. Was probably shaving in middle school.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Right, he was 19. From Georgia, so that shaving was with a straight razor too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Here's what I don't get
When we took Zach Lee and heard about how great he was, a lot of people said “Let’s wait until he throws a professional pitch before anointing him”.
And yet here we are dubbing this a failed pick before we know ANYTHING about the pick, the context, the role they’re going to use him in. If getting Zach Lee meant going low risk in the next draft, I’ll take it.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll reserve judgement
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
future Dodger announce team :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Just curious
you saw the video and already noticed something mechanical that can be fixed. Does Stanford not have a world class pitching coach?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I vaguely remember hearing something about high schoolers getting worse after playing for Stanford. There’s some sort of bad reputation here.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Are world-class pitching coaches working in college ball? I expect they are working in MLB and as minor league pitching coordinators.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
G.Scott knows more
but one thing about college coaching in general, you get only a limited amount of time to coach especially with games going on 4 times a week.
Really?
You think the world of baseball that has had 1,000’s of pitchers can only produce 30 top notch pitching coordinators?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In my mind “world-class” can’t be applied very liberally.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How about as simple as someone who can spot a mechanical flaw?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m world class baby :)
It’s not hard, he lands on his heel. Maybe it’s something they tried to fix at Stanford. With limited innings maybe he simply didn’t get enough chance. Maybe it’s something the Dodgers figure professional coaches can fix what Stanford’s coaches couldn’t.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I'm reserving judgement on the pitcher himself
….But mad that we didn’t get someone better.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
alot of people were jacked about the Lee pick
He was met with 100 percent positive reviews…only concern was his signability.
I'm not sure this is 100% positive.
Its #2…just a flat out idiotic pick..
If you dont have the funds to sign a legit #1 pick, then take a lower round projected guy that might actually sign.
Taking this dude when there’s very little chance he signs is a slap in the face to Dodger fans.
That’s you, by the way.
Poor Deuce.
by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well with this dude..
I think some wouldnt even care if he didnt sign, because they dont think they are missing anything if he doesnt bc he’s not good enough anyway.
I could see that. That being said, lefties who touch mid-90’s, even once, are rare. For one to also have a couple other pitches he’s working on, is rarer. Sign the kid, let’s see what he can do.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I’m just talking about the immediate fall out before everyone was like, “ok. Lee is very, very good. But he is going to be very, very hard to sign. BUT MAYBE LOGAN WHITE KNOWS SOMETHING WE DO NOT.”
If I remember correctly, people were calm with the hysteria ratcheting up a lot more when it got closer to a deadline.
Poor Deuce.
true...pick was met with skepticism...
Sort of the opposite of Reed.
Lee- people skeptical bc he’s too expensive to sign
Reed – people skeptical bc they think he’s too cheap to sign
But i think most people that dont like the Reed pick dont like it because of his talent level or how they see it.
I don't like the odds
Over the past twenty years, Stanford pitchers have had very little success in the show and I don’t see Reed bucking that tradition. In reality, I lay this pick at the feet of McCourt, Ned and Bud Lite. I have to think that Logan White will say the right things, but he knows he could’ve made a better pick. Simply put, this pick puts a smile on Bud’s face because it will be for underslot and will give him the misconception he is in control.
How exactly is Ned involved with Frank McCourt and Bud Selig? It’s not his money and the draft is Logan White’s child.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Ned is complicit
because he authorizes all player personnel moves, so if he spent less money on bad players, or at best on overpaying mediocrity, they would have wiggle room to let Logan draft the best player at 16.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I don’t know why anyone is upset, you knew going in they had to make a signability pick. This team can barely make payroll and are run by MLB. It is what it is, besides we do better later in the draft , let’s see what Logan unearths then.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Agree. But didn’t pay over slot for a lot of those picks after the first round? Andy LaRoche comes to mind.
From Laroche in 2003
to Gould in 2009, there was probably dozens of picks that went for slot. A few may have gotten over a particular slot but nothing like Gould, Lee and some of the later round picks last year.
Ya, this isnt the year to get upset about a slot pick. Maybe we could have gotten someone other than a reliever, but that would have been a slot guy, too. Its just sad that a team in the 2nd biggest market in the country has to make a signability pick in the first round. We should have been able to take a guy like Josh Bell and give him what he wanted.
walked the first 3 battters of the game
been good after that
Okay, forget about the Dodgers for a sec.
What’s the overall success rate for college relievers drafted in the first round?
how do you define major league career?
not trying to be a dick here, but based on WAR, years played, money earned? what?
the scouting reports say he has a monster bat. he’s projected as no jeff kent, but with our organizational depth being thin in the middle infield positions I was miffed to see us take yet another pitcher. it seems with the notable exception of kemp we don’t produce power hitters. power arms, yes.
what i’m saying is i’d like a little balance.
On drafting and player development, yeah. The Jays spend more than anyone, I’m not sure how that’s reflective.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Point was, mid-market team outspends Yankees, doesn’t mean jack.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
The Yankees can also outspend everyone in both the professional and amateur free agent markets. What exactly do the Dodgers do better than most?
Draft productive players after the 3rd round
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Are we really better than other teams during that? That’s actually something I would want to research if I had some free time. Seems to me teams have their own late round picks that succeeded despite the round they were picked.
Almost seems like trying to guage relievers
There is so much volatility that to get an accurate guage on “true drafting talent” we would need a massive sample size. Like decades of drafts.
I’m just spitballing though.
On ESPN insider.
Chris Reed, LHP, Stanford
Churchill: We knew this was going to be a slot pick with the current financial situation in L.A. and Reed was mentioned as a possibility by Law on Sunday and as the favorite here earlier today. There’s big league ability here and his changeup and slider are his two best pitches, but this was a pick to make sure they landed a player with probability and signability, rather than upside.
bright side
AWebster has no hitter thru 6ip in AA
Swihart drafted by Red Sox
and I wonder if they will even be able to sign him, given his Texas fetish.
Is everyone still crabby here? ;-)
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Joe Block's response cracked me up for some reason
RT @joe_block They get 50 picks RT @ladodgerblues: Shouldnt they draft a 1b or 3b hitter given the lack in the Minors?
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no. They should draft 50 RH pitchers out of Stanford.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get the idea of drafting based on need.
Especially since “needs” change. 3 years ago we didn’t need a catcher. We definitely need one now.
All experts say in baseball don’t draft based on need.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
i don't think it's the guy who does Dodger Blues
it says @ladodgerblues
I think that guys is just @dodgerblues
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ah
guess that’s not what you were arguing. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
if anyone wants a blast from the past
when Lee got announced as the first round pick
in the official thread for his draft pick, our very own Chad had this to say about it:
lol @ having confidence the Dodgers are spending 3-6 million on this kid
but can’t pay shit for actual players on the paroll
Poor Deuce.
Gammons
just said on MLBN that he talked to a team in the middle of the 1st round that wanted to take Robert Stephenson but “didn’t have the money”…any guesses to who that team is?! Admission right there that they had handcuffs on.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Almost have to be the Dodgers.
Houston at 11 took George Spinner, projected at one point to go top 5.
Brewers at 12 took Taylor Jungmann, college starter.
Mets at 13 took Nimmo, who is an high upside, talent guy who probably needs to sign to an overslot contract.
Marlins took Jose Fernandez at 14, who seems to need to command his own high contract.
Brewers took Jed Bradley at 15, who might have to sign at slot.
Dodgers took Reed at 16.
Angels took Cron at 17,
A’s took Gray at 18, considered a top 5 pick at one point
And the Red Sox took Matt Barnes at 19th.
except do you really think any Dodger official talked to Gammons?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
True
who knows. If I had to pick one guy I trust, it’s Peter Gammons. Especially since he didn’t say HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT NED JUST SAID.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
The weird thing to me is I always think what the Dodgers do
is pretty much what they would do regardless of finances and it is all coincidence how it plays it out.
Stanford is dumb #expertanalysis
by Josie Becker on Jun 6, 2011 6:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait for June 23rd.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
wait, what?
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
might have been. Old fallback position: If people dump on your football or baseball team. Well fuck you, because D-Will is amazing.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
RIGHT? Basketball season cannot come soon enough.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I am excited to see what they can do
With a void in the post and a new PG, my expectations aren’t super high. I sure am excited though!
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
Scotty Boras is representing our latest draft pick. Last first pick by the Dodgers advised by Boras, Luke “No. 1 pick” Hochevar.
per Logan White via Dylan
Chris Reed is being advised by Scott Boras, according to Logan White.
Poor Deuce.
Wow, that is biggest shock of the day.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Who's UC Davis's rival?
It’s Sacramento State, right?
I need to know what college to start hating unconditionally.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren’t you closer to UCLA though? At least geographically?
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants take a guy I've never heard of
(which doesn’t mean he’s not good)
Joe Ponik SS out of St John’s?
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Yeah just saw on Twitter that they were crushing the pick.
Well, that makes this day slightly better. (Meaningless of course, because who knows…)
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of course its carlos ruiz...fuck him til end of eternity.
by npurcell on Jun 6, 2011 6:55 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
rec’d on principle
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers said they are going to have Reed begin his career as a starter.
As soon as the press release comes out, I’ll update the post.
Well the upside is his arm doesnt have alot of mileage on it currently.
The badside is its tough to determine how much it can take.
true..
but i’d be a little less weary if I had a pitcher that had thrown 100 pitches in a game before.
Weary is tired, as you would be if you threw 100 pitches in a game and were like, 19 or something. Wary is cautious, which I assume is what Joey Joe meant, actually.
Poor Deuce.
I hate people that get the lyrics wrong.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Dee doesn’t swipe a base, I will punch someone on this bus
by Josie Becker on Jun 6, 2011 7:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Do it. You owe us now.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He went first to third, he took an extra base. Taking something the Phillies didn’t want to have. Swiping.
by Josie Becker on Jun 6, 2011 7:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude
weak
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
true 80 speed
Meaning of course 80mph
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, if the Dodgers sign a talented guy in the 2nd round like in 2009
Then some of the whining will be abated.
I figure the rest of my day consists of adding a 5-star potential pitcher to my Dodgers franchise, naming him “Taylor Guerrieri”, playing his minor league starts, and crying myself to sleep.
In MLB 2k11, i mean.
Though I kid about my day plans. Gonna play with my Cutter/12-6 curve closer in my player mode.
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Story
I would have much rather have had this kid at #16, but it wasn’t to be. I’m a fan after reading his story… he wanted to be a Dodger
“Pretty amazing story”: http://www.tampabay.com/hometeam/blog/mlb-draft-no-more-raw-edges-or-untapped-potential-alonsos-fernandez/9852/
“After getting drafted”: http://www2.tbo.com/sports/prep-sports/2011/jun/07/spnewso1-a-day-fernandez-will-forever-remember-ar-235607/
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