Dodgers Go Down Quiet-Lee Against Phillies
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 7:18 PM PDT
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The Dodgers loaded their batting order full of right-handed batters Monday night, but it didn't matter as Cliff Lee mowed down the lineup with ease. Lee struck out 10 in his seven shutout innings, en route to a 3-1 Phillies' victory, their 13th in the Dodgers' last 16 games in Philadelphia, including the playoffs. The only starters that Cliff Lee didn't strike out were Jamey Carroll, who was 3-for-4, and Ted Lilly, who is 0-for his last 41, dating back to last season. Lee has allowed one run in 22 1/3 innings in his career against the Dodgers, including the playoffs.
On the mound, Lilly was good, rightly taking advantage, like Lee, of home plate umpire Mark Carlson's wide strike zone. Lilly allowed two runs in six innings, striking out four. In 25 starts as a Dodger Lilly has 26 unintentional walks. The Phillies scored both runs off Lilly in the third, when a leadoff double by relief pitcher extraordinaire Wilson Valdez was eventually followed by a walk and two singles.
The Phillies added another run when eternal Dodgers tormentor Carlos Ruiz hit an RBI double off the wall in left field in the eighth inning.
We got to see the lightning quickness of Dee Gordon, who made his MLB debut as a pinch runner in the top of the ninth inning. Gordon advanced to third in the blink of an eye on a single by James Loney, then scored on a groundout by Andre Ethier. Gordon is the first Dodger to score as a pinch runner in his MLB debut since Wilton Guerrero on September 3, 1996. Gordon is expected to start at shortstop Tuesday, his first major league start.
It's always frustrating not to score, at least until the ninth inning, when the top two reach base five times. Carroll had three hits and is 8-for-13 in his last three games, and Aaron Miles was 2-for-4. Juan Uribe welcomed himself back from the DL with two hits of his own, but Marcus Thames wasn't so productive. The left fielder, batting third tonight as Ethier wasn't in the starting lineup against the southpaw Lee, was 0-for-4, leaving those top two on base all night. Blake Hawksworth also returned from the disabled list, pitching a scoreless seventh inning.
Rubby De La Rosa makes his first major league start on Tuesday, against Roy Oswalt.
WP - Cliff Lee (5-5): 7 IP, 7 hits, 1 walk, 10 strikeouts
LP - Ted Lilly (4-5): 6 IP, 5 hits, 2 runs, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts
Sv - Ryan Madson (13): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 2 strikeouts
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Is Jacob Anderson the next Mike Stanton:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Stanton was rated higher
128th overall vs 157th overall. Anderson did not play outfield this year for his high school team so scouts couldn’t tell how athletic he is, that and his commitment to Pepperdine makes him a tough sign in their opinion.
Just noticed huge power hitting outfielder in our backyard.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Well, like I said
from his scouting report, not particularly fast nor could they tell if he could play the outfield, but it will be his bat and his ability to hit off-speed stuff that will get him to the show.
Sorrry
misread his report. They say he has average-above average speed, should be able to play RF/CF (?).
Hire Michael Buffer
“Lllllllllllllllet’s get ready for CCCCCCHRIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDD!”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Casual fans
know who a bunch of the first-round draftees in those sports are though. Baseball, not so much.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Gordon is the first Dodger to score as a pinch runner in his MLB debut since Wilton Guerrero on September 3, 1996.
Also the lightest Dodger position player to debut since Wilton Guerrero.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
BTW
Were you not taking it personally when you told me to “GFY”?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
GFY
0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .
by Ghost_of_K3vo on Jun 6, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess you didn’t take it personally when I told you “See you next Tuesday” then.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
oooh
I must have missed the GFY in the draft thread? Didn’t think it got so heated…
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Watch the video, check.
Become Chris Reed fan, check.
Hope he signs early so he can pitch in AA next year, check and check.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Reed sign fairly soon. Most of the mocks had him lower, and the Dodgers needed to pick someone at or below slot. Reed’s going to get more than what he would have had he been selected where he was projected.
Yes
just shocked he was in the Boras stable.
It would be ironic if he turned out to be a tough sign
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not a fan
But here’s a pic from her NESN days that you may like:
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
She married a former MLB player who I never heard of
Kevin Barker. He’s 5 years younger than the now 41 year old Ms. Mae.
Well
the pic above is 3 – 7 years old.
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BTW
Fuck Carlos Ruiz.
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by David Young on Jun 6, 2011 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It makes sense for the team with multiple sandwich round picks (supplemental)
to take shots with tough signs because they get a replacement pick next year if they don’t sign the player.
5-0 Boston Bruins
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
sure is!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well this could be very depressing for Trayvon
I think I counted this right but with Gordon’s entry into the game, 14 different players who wore an Isotope uniform this year (including players on rehab assignments) have played in LA this season.
he'll be up in Sept
I think
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
cool
so 13th pick of the day
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
supplemental round
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
right, but that seems like a ton of guys got offered arb and declined
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
isn't it also
guys who didn’t sign their pick last year?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
(shrugs)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
3 unsigned 1st rounders from 2010
33 first round
8 Type A compensation supplemental
19 Type B compensation supplemental
Yeah
but there were only a few like that and they were I believe in the first round and in the third round. All Supplemental picks in 2010 signed.
well
from the scroll, it looked like 60 picks were made today
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
that's not a celebration
that’s a punishment
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
oh wahhhh
take it too the hate thread :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
honestly thats probably a high percentage
for a draft pick
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
i'm kidding him
but it seems like complaining about it isn’t gonna change anything at this point.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Obligatory PR quote
added to the Chris Reed piece as well:
"He’s an excellent competitor, has three quality pitches, sound mechanics and a great deal of athleticism," said White. "He’s also a smart, local guy who has a fine family background."
"... Like Frank's momma"
PR staff ooohs
by Taylor Maricle on Jun 6, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
you know they're grasping
when the old “family background” is used
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I no longer want Cron
RT @BillShaikin #Angels pick Cron says he has torn labrum. “Something will have to be done eventually,” he said.
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(drum riff)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
i believe
that’s why he stopped being a catcher and stuck to 1B/DH right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe Cron played hurt all year
it was reported that his shoulder was injured all year (which is why he didn’t catch).
Ahh, didn't realize. Well I assumed the Angels knew, at any rate.
But makes me wonder about him a bit more. His defense was already a worry, no? Just seems like he’s better suited for AL teams…
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Just got home from the game in Philly
Dodgers did the typical thing. Get your hopes up in the 9th only to fall short. Still wondering why Ethier wasn’t starting against Lee. I know it’s lefty lefty matchup but god I hate seeing Thames in there
well sure didnt happen tonight..
and yea that batting average under .200 looks great
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 6, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Andre Ethier, career vs. LHP: .245/.307/.364, 14 HR in 789 PA (1 HR per 56.4 PA)
Thames, last 3 years vs LHP: .275/.344/.455, 10 HR in 288 PA (1 HR per 28.8 PA)
So why hasn’t Thames ever been good enough to be a full time player?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
ethier – 0/3 career vs lee
thames – 7/36, 15 Ks.
i understand thames is a better left handed masher, but wouldn’t you rather see your best hitter take hacks as opposed to a guy coming off the DL?
That's the point though
Ethier against a left-hander is nowhere near any team’s best hitter, even this shitty offense
Don't you know hindsight managing is 20-20?
And Cliff Lee flustering almost all Dodger hitters tonight has nothing to do with it.
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Is it? Against LHP, Thames is supposed to be the 2nd best hitter on the team. Wouldn’t that person bat 3rd?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
guess I'm more of a traditionalist
where a journeyman like Thames should never bat 3rd, but I guess it didn’t matter what the lineup was like tonight.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
given the results i was thinking – ethier could have sucked just as bad as thames tonight given the matchup so I wasn’t too miffed about him being out. what I don’t understand is why throw a guy fresh of the DL who hasn’t seen major league level pitching in a month in the 3 hole.
i understand we want to keep kemp at 4 but why wouldn’t we put blake in the 3 hole or something and give thames a spot lower in the lineup. that was puzzling to me. I feel D2X messed up there, considering we had a golden opportunity at the outset of the game.
Dee Gordon
It was a nice surprise when I walk into the stadium to see a skinny guy at SS…I was like…that’s not Dee Gordon is it?? I wish I had got to see him start but was nice to see him score a run.
i'm eager to see him in the field
Made alot of errors at the minor league level…see if he’s got what it takes.
could be an adventure
but I think he hasn’t made an error since early May, so hopefully he’s learned when he should and should not make a throw
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Furcal played SS
only one year in minors, in 1997 and 1998, he played 2B and made 10 and 14 errors while playing slightly more than a third of the season each year. He played 126 games in 1999 and made 34 errors at SS. He did improve that year, by the time he moved to High A ball, he made 4 errors in 43 games.
Of course that is nothing like Derek Jeter but that is another story.
I know you saw it on tv..
but the speed is great…he could be a guy that makes things happen on the base paths…kinda like how Reyes did/does for the Mets for so many years minus the power.
Logan on Chris Reed
“I think this guy definitely can start,” White said. “I think we got fortunate that the kid was pitched out of the bullpen. We were on him a long time. He hasn’t been seen a lot (by other clubs). He throws 92-95 (mph), and as you’ll be able to see in the College World Series, he is big and strong, 6-feet-5 and 215 (pounds). He has a hard slider, 86-88, and a sharp changeup as well.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6633256
He mentions somewhere else that other teams didn’t scout him as much as they did. Again, that tells me that Reed could have been drafted later. Hopefully, we go big in the 2nd round.
Like I said
slot money around there is $500K so I would expect not.
Really, unless you either go after a really tough sign or draft in the Top 5, you are not going to spend a lot of bonus money.
Now could they go after Norris or Bell there, sure but I would be really shocked.
for some reason
i would laugh if they drafted Bell
it would be funny to me in a way i can’t quite explain
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
no
i guess more like an FU to the MLB restrictions I guess, though I doubt that would be the real reason if they did it. That’s just why i would make me laugh.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay I will go this far
was this a signability pick, sure.
Do you think he would have been around at 73, perhaps maybe probably, but then comes the Scott Boras issue, last year that pick, Rob Rasmussen, signed for just under $500K, certainly anything over $600K would have been denied, so now they have more room to negotiate with Reed at 16 rather than 73.
Isn’t that a bit of a contradiction? Team drafted Reed because he’ll sign at slot, but there’s still a negotiation that might go over slot?
Let's say you think he's really second round talent level (money wise)
So that is somewhere from $500K to $750K. But with Boras around and the fact he has another year where maybe he stays (or at least he could stay), you think you need to spend over a million to sign him, you go ahead and draft him now because you don’t think MLB will approve that high an overslot bonus for him.
thanks
will be nice to see Rubby make his debut starting
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 6, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB and KCAL
I might just get lucky here, if i recall correctly i got the last game that was this combo. Of course there is the minor matter of managing my daughter’s LL game at 5:30, so I guess I will set the DVR and cross my fingers.
"Baseball is like a poker game. Nobody wants to quit when he's losing; nobody wants you to quit when you're ahead."
by MammothDodger on Jun 6, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm Actually Trying Really Hard To Look On The Bright Side When It Comes To the Draft Pick
At least Reed is another lefty added to a pitching stockpile that was way too right-handed. And… actually, that’s all I got.
thought Guerreri would have been the pick
After seeing Logan’s track record and that he had been clocked at 97.
I guess Bubba Crosby ruined it for every possible future college position player to be drafted by the Dodgers.
What was the situation with the Rangers and Matt Purke in 2008?
Because I thought the Rangers were seized by MLB already by the time the draft took place.
Purke was drafted in June 2009, MLB came in to ‘oversee’ at some point within the next month or so, before the signing deadline (this was pre-bankruptcy), and did not approve the $6m deal that was reportedly agreed to.
Slot was 2.3
they were rumors that they were allowed to go to 4M but who really knows.
Right now, Purke would have been happy to get 2.3M
Looking back, the Rangers are quite satisfied MLB did that
by Julio Nievas on Jun 6, 2011 9:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Allan Webster 2012 #5 starter?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
How did he end up tonight?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
For walking the first 3 guys he faced tonight
That’s an awesome line.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
or wonderfully
as we traded our top twenty prospects in various trades for Prince Fielder, Carlos Beltran, David Wright and Kyle Farnsworth.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
like to have him
for the express purpose of drilling Victorino
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What i'm wondering is why you list 3 studs then Kyle Farnsworth, haha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I figure someone has to have something to complain about.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Good point
Though if he’s hitting players we don’t like I’m ok with it, hahah.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
would mean Gould and Garcia are either not with the Dodgers, don’t qualify as prospects anymore, or are no longer capable of playing baseball at their current levels.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
This team plus Jose Reyes = winning
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Just to avoid the rush
Congratulations to the team that thought it would be soon no longer be playing baseball, Cal, for making it into the Super Regional, apparently only one team could come back from 3 runs down in the 9th today.
Tolleson in Double A (3 Games)
5 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
His cutter must not be quite as devastating to older hitters.
given his rather meteoric rise, that doesn't seem too bad for his first 5 ip in AA either...
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If you are near UCI, there is the new Berkeley Dog near campus. Its a good replica of Top Dog up north.
I am crazy over the place.
Bacon Hash Hot Dogs!
Theres one in Mission Viejo
where is this exactly? i’ll drag my coworkers there for lunch
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
ooo uni center
I like
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
John Sickels on Chris Reed
Sorry if this was posted earlier but didn’t see it… Goes a bit with what some of you wrote above.
John Sickels, who writes for Minor League Ball, SB Nation and other sites and knows more than me about prospects, and I dare say most of you, too ;-) has this about the Dodgers first rounder. Seems pretty fair to me.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/6/6/2209148/mlb-draft-2011-order
Los Angeles Dodgers: Chris Reed (LHP-Stanford)
Everyone has wondered how the Dodgers financial problems would impact their draft strategy, and now we find out. There’s nothing wrong with Stanford’s Chris Reed as a prospect. He went 6-2, 2.80 ERA with a 47/13 K/BB in 45 innings this year, being used as a reliever. But Reed has a starter’s arsenal, featuring an 89-94 MPH fastball along with a strong slider and a good changeup. Scouts anticipate that he’ll hold up just fine under a starter’s workload, thanks to his 6-5, 200 pound built and good level of athleticism.
He’ll need some time to stretch out his arm to move into the starting role, but the Dodgers are well-aware of that. They have focused on prep arms and players in recent drafts, so while Reed is a fine prospect, this does represent a shift from their previous draft strategy, likely due to the monetary constraints. While Reed might be an overdraft, he’s not a total reach.
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Sickles is far too kind. I hope he’s right.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 7, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Rubby's start tomorrow will be exciting
Trying not to be overconfident, tho. There’s a strong chance he’ll struggle with walks and/or pitch count. But I do believe he’ll consistently clock in at 96-97 and flat out dominate at times.
No
I don’t see how that would reduce the total number of pitchers on the staff. If it doesn’t add an extra spot on the bench, fuck it.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I am fairly sure if the Giants win this year
you will never see a position player under 30 again as a regular.
You mean the team who gave the starting catcher gig to Posey last year, who initially gave the starting 1st baseman gig to Belt this year? The one who jumped an A ball SS to the starting position of shortstop?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So? I've heard he's so awesome he has super powers and can play right through it. :-)
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I think initially
they didn’t see it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Worst OBP in the NL?
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Wouldn't be surprised
this Rodriguez guy was wobbly in the 8th, and is back out there wobbling in the 9th.
I think I’ll go back to writing for a bit…
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heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Would we still complain about Miles if we were in 1st place. Yes, yes we would.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Joey Joe is a bit right
this is a blog, some complain more then others, some see the optimistic side more then others, but when opinions are going to be voiced, negativity has to be part of the equation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When you are playing at
over .600 baseball for most of the season, I am just not sure how much there is to complain about. But that was then. And of course you still lost 4 out of 10 games.
The 2009 team came as close to crapping out the final week of the season as any team can.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They were the first team in the NL to make the playoffs, with 8 days remaining in the season.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure but wildcard is still wildcard compared to Division. None of us wanted to start off against the Phillies did we? Or am I misremembering losing every game the final week until TBLA night and holding off the Rockies for the Division?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Without question, people were panicking, but it was completely misplaced. People were talking about worst collapses ever, when there was no possible way the Dodgers were anywhere close to that. Even had they lost every one of the final regular season games.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
are the angels the worst collapse?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I forgot the article on Baseball Prospectus, but I believe it may have been the 2007 Mets.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mets are up there
because with the Wild Card, they had an even greater chance to make the playoffs.
Nate Silver wrote in 2007 that the odds against the Angels not making the playoffs in 1995 was 8,332 to 1.
The Phillies collapse in 1964 was only 25-1 (by math only).
It was the 1995 Angels, followed by the 2007 Mets. 1964 Phillies were 11th.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha Ha
time does have a way of moving what was once a gimme to the back of the bus.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They were never going to not make the playoffs
I mean it wasn’t the 2007 Mets or even Padres. I think it was like 4 games.
Maybe our best hitter getting suspended a third of the season for doing steroids (basically)
I know I wasn’t happy about that, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
pretty sure the Giants fans hate Miguel Tejada
and they’d be justified whether they were in 1st or last.
Bringing up Dee, Rubby, and leaving Sands on the major league roster
is a seismic shift in how Ned has historically gone about the business of the in-season major league roster. Drafting a college pitcher in the first round is something Logan White has never done.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So are you saying times are a changin
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Still floored by the Gordon move. That has clouded what would have been even more shock over the Sands/Gibbons move (that wasn’t a shock, per se, but was still a pleasant surprise)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't get to watch the game
What number was Dee wearing? Is he going to start tomorrow?
Also with Sands, Rubby, and now Gordon being called up
I assume they will all have enough time to not be considered rookies next year. Any early guesses to what the top 10 prospects for the Dodgers might look like next year?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Sands just used up his rookie status, passing the 45 days of service time.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
So ROY is in his grasp.
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He's gonna turn it around soon enough
As for the ROY, a couple of hot months and he could be right in the race, because except for that Collmenter guy, i’m not sure there are many good rookies in the NL right now. Not as though I expect Sands to be a ROY though.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I honestly don't either but am perfectly willing to be pleasantly surprised!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Collmenter is going to have a 4.50 ERA over the rest of the season. Mark it.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Probably higher.
He’s basically Ely that throws a tad bit higher.
He’s due for a massive regression to the mean.
Vogelsong will also do alot worse…though he has a strong enough k rate to make you think he might be legit.
My guess
1. Zach Lee
2. Trayvon
3. Webster
4. Gould
5. Tolleson (i’m guessing it will be a Jansen type thing)
6. Miller
7. Eovaldi
8. John Garcia
9. Withrow
10. Lemmerman
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Are you not convinced Trayvon will be able to hit in the majors? And/or the ginormous k rate?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So your top 5 would be
Lee
Webster
Eovaldi
Gould
Trayvon
?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I picked Rubby as the #1 overall prospect and don’t think I picked Lee in the top 5, so yeah, assuming people stay on their progression lines and Rubby loses his eligibility, that’d be my 5.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
It would still be a pretty nice top 5
I just hope the rest of the draft provides us with some high upside players…someone with staying at slot.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Consider that Ralston Cash isn’t even on the radar, and he was pretty highly thought of (probably not a second round pick, but a good prospect), I don’t expect anyone we take in thi sdraft to crack our top 5. I will be voting for Reed to be somewhere in the top 10 though, likely 7 ahead of Tolleson and Miller but below Garcia and the 5 already mentioned.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Good point
I was just thinking some crazy scenerio where we draft Josh Bell and get him signed some how. /crazy dreams filled with a owner with money
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Martin's value has just plummeted
Somewhat like De Jesus’ unfortunately.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You’re kidding right, tongue in cheek type of question right? Right?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Is that addressed to me?
If so, i brought it up because 3 of the top 5 will be gone so it will look a lot different from last year’s.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yes, but ignore it, if you guys want to talk top 10 prospects for 2012 on June 7th, 2011 before we finish the 2011 draft. Go for it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No need to be cranky
I still think the Dodgers are in it this year, I just thought seeing as it’s draft day I’d talk about the farm for next year with 3 of our top prospects making the majors and being needed to contribute in a big way.
I really think Sands is going to get going very soon, and I’m really hoping Dee will be the (forgive me for using the generic) “sparkplug” for the lineup to really get them going and score some runs on a consistent basis. I’m also very excited about his range at SS. As well having Rubby make his first MLB start tomorrow I hope it is so impressive it forces a spot on the roster for him and maybe we deal Garland for something. Don’t get me wrong, I do like Garland, he’s been a great 5th starter, but if Rubby is ready I’d like to see him take over in the rotation.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
at the very least
having the youngsters on this team makes it feel like its not a complete lost season even if the Dodgers lose.
Mr. Hand
is starting for the Marlins tomorrow. I hope Hanley brings enough pizza for the whole class.
hahahaha
that’s great.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Random Number guess... 60!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That is the most optimistic comment I’ve ever seen from you.
So a guy who does not average six innings in AA, is going to throw 7 innings in his debut even though he has not made a start in 10 days? Does adrenaline run for the two hours?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It sucks that he is going to blow his arm out in his 2nd start
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
if he blows out his arm throwin 90 pitches
on a 10 day between start rest…then it just aint meant to be for the Dodgers.
He’s not gonna blow out his arm, but 90 pitches is highly unrealistic.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
we'll see...
Kershaw made i think 96 or so in his debut and he didnt have that much extra rest i dont think.
Mainly because the brass would not let it happen after his layoff from the rotation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think you’ve probably never pitched passed Little League.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
How has it only been 10 days since his last start?
and in his last start didn’t he only go like 3 innings? Its been weeks since he pitched more then 60 pitches
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
its been like 26 days since he pitched more then 3.2 innings
and his 2 starts after that where 3.2, then 2.0, then he got called up
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
60 is still kinda low. If he’s at like 65 I expect him to stop. If he’s at 60 I expect him to go another.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
if the Dodgers really only thought they could get 60 out of him
they wouldnt be having him start IMO.
Starting a guy on those constraints just doesnt make much sense to me.
Also, I’ve said 75 like, 4 times now. 60 is low, 90 is high, holy shit! 75 is in the middle.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
he can be as lights out as he wants
he ain’t going 90.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Need to be more specific: 75 pitch complete game, you mean. :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I doubt it
80
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Rubby's workload of late
May 15: 96 (using Xei’s pitch count estimator of 3.3PA + 1.5SO + 2.2BB)
May 21: 31 (estimated)
May 24: 13
May 27: 29
May 30: 28
No chance he touches 90 pitches tomorrow. Probably not even 80
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
you did this better then me
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Joey Joe thinks he knows better then well the world on this
so the facts aren’t going to get him stop running his mouth
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
So at this point we simply let him believe what he wants to believe. We also told him that Rubby wouldn’t be in the rotation in June, that Sands was going down, that Gordon would never see the Ravine before Sept. So…………..
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think Joey Joe is a bit misunderstood
since I’ve become active again here, he doesn’t seem like a troll, just someone who is not wildly optimistic of the Dodgers’ chances and likes the young players. So what if it’s not totally realistic, neither is the prediction of a sweep for the Dodgers in every series. I don’t think he should get crucified for it.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
And of course the Nats reliever WALKS HIM.
Sheesh.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The guy on the mound has no idea where the ball is going. Its fun to watch
Scott Elbert will save us.
I just hope they repeat that when facing the Dodgers
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
3rd game in 4 days for this pitcher, maybe that's partially why...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Torres strikes out though
on to the 11th. Maybe they’ll beat each other up so bad no one will have anything left for subsequent games.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
till the break of dawn!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Lots of shitty pitchers (or pitchers doing shitty) starting tomorrow.
1. Chris Jakubauskas
2. Guillermo Moscoso
3. Brad Hand
4. Doug Davis
5. Edinson Volquez
6. Alex Cobb
7. Matt Harrison
8. Vin Mazzaro
9. Kyle Drabek
Had to
with both LeClure and Bailey hittin the DL on back to back days.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Even with the loss last night Dodger fans have to be excited. When was the last time we had our TWO top prospects
making their “real” debuts in the same game, not Sept style? Sure Rubby has done some relief work but it is as a starter we are excited. Sure Dee already scored a run, but tomorrow it will be as the Dodger starting SS.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 10:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm very excited!!!!
:D
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 6, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
me too
Sands in LF
Dee at SS
Rubby on the mound
vs the best team in the NL
Doesnt get any better than that.
When Gwynn gets the gig in LF to help Rubby on defense don’t be bummed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
well rubby's a ground ball pitcher
i think…given his low HR rate.
I’d think they’d want the best SS out there…so if any of the youngs were to sit you’d think it’d be Dee. But since Mattingly told him he’d play alot…doubt he sits 2 games in a row.
Butterflies for this one
Gordon, Blake, Ethier, Kemp, Uribe, Loney, Sands, Navarro, Rubby is my lineup guess.
There have been 9 LA Dodger pitchers since 1988 who have made their first start for the Dodgers
at age 22 or younger. Five you might know right away, two might be difficult.
BTW
I had to add the data component that they made their start within their first 4 games (to be compared to Rubby).
Kershaw
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Fernando
my work here is done
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Well
actually no, one I said 1988, and two, he pitched in 10 games in 1980 before making his first start in career game number 11 in 1981.
Park is correct
the last two was Luke Prokopec and Denny Reyes (who was DFAed by Boston this April).
Gagne was my guess
but he was 23..
Would have never gotten Prokopec.
Reyes was real young when he came up.
One of them
pretty much remained a starter until the end of his career, one might be more famous as a trivia answer and the other pitched in Majors this season.
I wonder if in hindsight Bochy wishes he'd have let Lincecum pitch one more inning
He went 5ip, 101 pitches. Just in hindsight of course…
Anyway.. on to the 13th!
Anyway.. on to the 13th!Night everyone.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Dodgers have had so much awesome talent come thru the system
holy shit its amazing.
Scott Elbert will save us.
I am talking about the years before I was even born.
But yeah, these kids are cool too
Scott Elbert will save us.
I'd like Austin Hedges at 73
it’s nice to want things
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Rubby is awesome
“No, I’m not excited,” De La Rosa said. “It’s what starters do. They start. I’m not nervous. I never get nervous. I don’t feel butterflies when I pitch; I don’t feel anything. I grew up in the streets. How can I be scared of anything compared to that?”
by silverwidow on Jun 6, 2011 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
The Nationals forgot how to turn a double play..
I don’t know who’s playing SS but you fail!
Scott Elbert will save us.
My thoughts on the draft
Frank is scorching the earth as much as he can before he goes. So Reed ends up a cheap loogy in 2013 if we’re lucky. Whatever, things won’t get better until we get our new owners, we’ll just have to make do with what we got until that time comes and hopefully our new owner will put good money to the draft and the international market.
Really lets just hope we find ourselves a Kemp, Martin, Sands, Gordon, etc in the late rounds. Our starting pitcher we are all splooging ourselves over tomorrow we snagged for basically nothing. So yeah we might have wasted a draft pick, half these mother fuckers will never make it regardless.
Also, don’t worry about Boras, There is no way we overdrafted this much without talking to Boras and Reed and getting a deal done before the draft. We’ve already talked numbers with them and got it straightened out.
Reed isn’t anywhere near the guy I wish we picked but in the in the end it’s small beer. And not a single fuck was given today.
Harper
They showed on MLB Network where he blew a kiss to a pitcher after going yard the other day.
WTF?
Can't say I didn't expect a signability pick
Wouldn’t be funny though if we couldn’t sign the signable pick because of Boras?
Oh, and someone should fart in Bud Selig’s face every time he says “Los Anjeleeez”
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