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Battle for 3rd place: Colorado Rockie Preview

Reports of Helton's demise were greatly exaggerated  (Photo by Denis Poroy/Getty Images)

Much has changed for the Rockies since our last preview.

Additions: Charles Blackmon, Eric Young, Juan Nicasio, Aaron Cook, Clay Mortensen, Chris Nelson

Subtractions: Jose Lopez, Felipe Paulino, Ian Stewart

On the DL: Dexter Fowler, Jorge De La Rosa

Position Breakdown

1st Base - Todd Helton is having a big resurgence, looking very much like the 2009 model with his .316/.384/.534 Triple Stat Line.

2nd Base - Jose Lopez  lost the gig and his spot on the 25 man roster. Chris Nelson is trying to fill the spot with Jonathan Herrera and Eric Young Junior waiting for him to fail.  He's had 23 plate appearances so far, so nothing to talk about yet. He was the 9th pick of the 2004 draft and it has taken him longer then anyone expected to find a spot on the Rockie roster. Scouting report per baseballhq.com

Chris Nelson (INF, COL)
In need of infield depth, the Rockies turned to the 25-year-old right-handed hitter. Nelson was a first round selection in the '09 draft and finally reached the majors in '10 - he hit .280 with 0 HR. He is an outstanding athlete who is starting to live up to lofty expectations. Nelson has the ability to hit for BA while showcasing his moderate power and speed. His pitch recognition is more than adequate, though he can be a little aggressive and expand the strike zone in the hopes of hitting for more pop. Nelson is a good defender with a strong arm, ample range, and soft hands and he can play any infield position. Injuries have taken their toll on him, but if given the opportunity, Nelson could still become a starting infielder in Colorado. He is a career .278/.342/.440 hitter with a high of 19 HR in '07.
STATS: Colorado Springs (AAA) - 197 AB, .315/.346/.503, 14 2b, 5 HR, 0.29 Eye, 2 SB

SS - Troy Tulowitzki is struggling offensively  for a man with his talent. Since April 15th he has an OPS of .666. The number of the beast just keeps showing up in these previews.  At this point in the season he has a wRC of 112. Jamey Carroll is at 111. The man many considered the best NL SS is far behind the likes of Jose Reyes and Stephen Drew. Defensively, the metrics in 2011 say he is the best by far.

3rd Base - Like Jose Lopez, Ian Stewart also failed to keep his gig. Stewart his now crushing in AAA while Ty WIggington tries to hold down the fort.

C - Chris Iannetta still having a solid season.

CF - Carlos Gonzalez has been moved back to CF with Fowler on the DL. The word is that he's going to stay there. Carlos had a great May but so far in June he's struggling as though caught in quicksand with a June OPS of .472. That is not slugging, that is OPS. Who says Jerry Sands does not have anything in common with Cargo:)

LF - Now belongs to Charles Blackmon who was just recalled this week.  Blackmon is left-handed, was the second round pick in 2008, so he's made a quick journey to the major leagues.  He had an OPS of .965 in the PCL. To put that into perspective, Ian Stewart who was demoted because he can't hit major league pitching has an OPS of 1.226 on the same team. Scouting report per baseballhq.com

Charles Blackmon (OF, COL)
The Rockies selected the 24-year-old in the second round of the '08 draft and he was fairly raw at the time. Since the draft, Blackmon has steadily improved and polished many nuances of his game. At 6'3" 200 pounds, he is a solid athlete with an intriguing mix of power and speed. His bat speed is starting to translate into moderate-to-plus pop. As evidenced by his career line of .316/.376/.475, Blackmon is a good hitter who makes easy contact. He isn't the most patient hitter, but he takes clean cuts and doesn't strike out much. In the outfield, Blackmon can play all three positions, but projects best in a corner. His arm strength and range are merely average, but he has shown improved routes and jumps. The Rockies have an abundance of outfielders, but it is expected that Blackmon gets regular work.
STATS: Colorado Springs (AAA) - 243 AB, .342/.396/.576, 19 2b, 10 HR, 0.56 Eye, 12 SB

RF - Seth Smith (LH) and Ryan Spilborghs (RH) continue to platoon. Smith is hitting , Ryan is not.

Bench Ryan Spilborghs, Jose Morales, Jonathan Herrera, Eric Young Junior, and Jason Giambi round out a solid bench with power, speed, and patience. 

Starting Pitching for our Series:

Game One - Newcomer Juan Nicasio gets the call against the Dodgers. He's made two starts so he has gotten his feet wet. Scouting report per baseballhq.com

Juan Nicasio (RHP, COL)
The Colorado Rockies called up RHP Juan Nicasio to fill in temporarily for the injured Jorge De La Rosa. Nicasio has a solid three-pitch mix that includes a 90-95 mph fastball that tops out at 97 mph, an inconsistent slider, and a much improved change-up. Somewhat of a late bloomer, the 24-year-old Nicasio had a breakout season in 2010. In 28 starts in the hitter-friendly CAL, Nicasio was 12-10 with a 3.91 ERA. Even more impressive was his strikeout to walk ratio. In 177 IP Nicasio walked only 31 while striking out 171. Nicasio is a strike-throwing machine and hasn't missed a beat to start 2011. After nine Double-A starts he is 5-1 with a 2.22 ERA with 10 BB/63 K in 56.2 IP. The jump from Double-A to the majors will not be easy, but if Nicasio can learn to keep the ball down in the zone he has the potential to develop into a solid mid-rotation starter and is worth rostering in NL only leagues.
STATS: Tulsa (AA) - 9 gs, 5-1 2.22 ERA, 56.2 IP, 6.3 Cmd, 1.6 Ctl, 10.0 Dom, 3 HR.

Game Two - Jhoulys Chacin should be fresh in Dodger fan minds after he twirled a beautiful game on April 5th against them.

Game Three - Jason Hammel has started twice against the Dodgers this year giving up 11 runs in 9 innings. Nuff said

Game Four - Ubaldo Jimenez appears to be back with zero walks over his last two games in 16 innings.

Bullpen - Huston Street continues to be the closer but the Rockies have a new kid on the block. Scouting report per baseballhq.com

Rex Brothers (LHP, COL)
In a highly anticipated move, the Rockies recalled the 23-year-old from Triple-A where he was dominant with a very high strikeout rate. Brothers was a supplemental first round selection in the '09 draft and has all the ingredients to become a big league closer. He was converted to a reliever upon signing and there are no apparent plans to move him from his role. Brothers' fastball runs between 91-97 mph and it exhibits plenty of late movement. He isn't very tall (6'0"), but he relies on pitch movement to keep the ball down. His mid-80's slider is his strikeout pitch and it has severe late break. Brothers rarely throws a changeup and he must improve his command in order to secure a prominent role in the bullpen. He has high upside with his potent fastball-slider combo. Brothers has posted a career 3.13 ERA, 4.9 Ctl, and 11.8 Dom.
STATS: Colorado Springs (AAA) - 25 g, 3-2 2.89 ERA, 28 IP, 3.0 Cmd, 4.8 Ctl, 14.5 Dom, 2 HR, .266 oppBA

Others in the bullpen include Rafael Betancourt, Matt Belisle, LHP Matt Reynolds, and Matt Lindstrom

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This has the feel of stale news. Maybe you should update.

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Jun 9, 2011 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

kershaw is excited to face blackmoon

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I believe CarGo has been leading off of late.
/Jim Tracy

by Xeifrank on Jun 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Can I call the Rockies new LF Mars?

Mad skills in LF. That shit is dope.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

For 0 TBLA points

Who are the Dodgers playing tonight?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

E

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bunch of losers

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought we were going through a big stretch of not playing on Thursday.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

after this game, through August

there are only 2 thursday games. July 2 vs. the Mets, and Aug 18 at MIL.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take AnAlbumCover

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Auditioning for the

Dr. Zaius role?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rock me, Dr. Zaius.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethan Martin?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rockies lineup

Gonzalez LF
Nelson 2B
Helton 1B
Tulowitzki SS
Wigginton 3B
Spilborghs RF
Blackmon LF
Morales C
Nicasio P

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Whatever happened to Yorvit Torrealba?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Padre I think.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

rangers

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

was a padre in 2010, rangers this year.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, still playing but in Texas. Felt like I hadn’t heard his name in a couple years.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

did they call up Eric Young Jr to sit on the bench?

by Xeifrank on Jun 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

he has played 5 of the last 7 dayus

including today

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by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

They brought him up to split time between CF and 2B

He hit for a little, sort of, but with Blackmon now in LF and Nelson having a good game Monday, they’re sticking with Nelson for a little bit

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going full Nelson instead of half Nelson?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

D'oh

Oeltjen up, Sands optioned, per Dylan H

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

wow

that was unexpected.

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by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

After yesterday, I’m not surprised.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

don’t get the move. I understand Sands has not been good, but Oeltjan?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They effectively DFAed Gibbons for him. Seems pointless, especially since it means paying more money.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trent plays better defense and they think he can hit as well perhaps?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh! Maybe Ned has gone Rogue and is trying to increase payroll as much as possible so that Frank can’t make it and the team will finally be taken over.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t think about this too hard. Trent is Australian. What else do you need to know?

by BFDC on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

…and the painted ponies go up and down.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trayvon says

WTF

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

trayvon needs to stop striking out

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by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh he doesn't strike out that much more then trent

but trent does have 100+ ops on tray

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by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was just typing this. Trent is no contact hitter himself.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

may as well have had some fun and brought up Kyle Russell :)

(i’m kidding)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not not amused by your comment.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

double negative. It’s at the least intriguing, though I wouldn’t do it.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i noticed

i wanted to make a licking toad reference, but I didn’t want to just straight quote.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seemed to have missed your second not

I think Russell would have a seriously hard time in the majors right now, but I’d bet we could see 15 homeruns out of him this year if he got the starting job. Now his other numbers….they may suffer a bit.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Which is why i said what you said no way to in the first place. Russell is a home run hitter, i think he will be able to do that at an alright level as a rookie right now, but his other numbers will suffer a lot, making the move essentially worthless.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

We said Sands would hit dingers too.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup. Prospects are the worst.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just because Sands didn't do well doesn't mean Russell couldn't hit home runs

That’s my non-logical thought process and i’m sticking to it!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did hit

1.95 dingers. Fucking clock in Florida.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

SRSLY

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

2.95 :)

had the hr off buehrle and the grand slam in houston

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Typo. Was fixated on the .95 part.

So he hit his two homers in a couple of the best launching pads in baseball.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the first off a soft throwing lefty

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

rather see hoffmann

Still on Frank's team! For Life! June 22 2011 is going to be our day!

by delias man on Jun 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much

did they hate Gibbons?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

its weird

in his last 50 PA Gibbons had an OPS of .798. They must really have hated his defense

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

and yes gibbons babip was high

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

the wind last sunday blew him to ABQ.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

hm?

I’m aware gibbons was DFAd but if they did it knowing that sands was going down soon then they must have though trent was a better option, and it wasn’t like Gibbons was hitting poorly when he was sent down

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

not much power

but he was getting on, but high babip, but bad defense, but

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always thought Trent was a better option, but also thought Xavier Paul was even a better option over Gibbons.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, they thought Trent Ojetian was better than Trent Ojetian and Jay Gibbons. They absolutely hated Gibbons.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now why you bother bringing a guy back when you hate him this much is another question, but whatever.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

They absolutely hated Gibbons.

Is this based on something more then speculation? Not saying it isn’t true, just wondering.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other explanation is that we don’t think more than a day in advance, because there was no reason to ditch Gibbons if you’re just gonna get rid of Sands anyway.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure there was, his name was Trent. They decided they could not use Gibbons on the bench because they want more then a pinch hitter and that is all he bring to the table.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

why do you need more when you have gwynn as the defensive replacement?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because they decided they would rather have Tony starting then Gibbons. Once Gibbons no longer fits into the starting plan he’s not very useful on the bench.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sands wasn’t doing the job, and if he’s just going to pinch hit, send him down to play every day.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s that have to do with it?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

except donnie was loathe to pinch hit sands

even when he was doing well

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or more simply, if a team thinks Trent Ojetian would be better than you, they must think you really suck.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The couple balls he misplayed in the outfield, albeit violent wind aided, looked so bad compared to when Sands and Gwynn were put out there.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was wondering why Vasquez came off the 40 man

by Dodgerblue8188 on Jun 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

but aren’at 38 before Trent? I think we could’ve just added Trent, no?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get ready for Shawn Tolleson.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m ready, I’m just not sure he is. I mean, striking out high school kids is cool and all.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

To many relief pitchers starting rehabs.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

who would go down?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I forgot the winky smiley whozzit. Sheesh.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s been very unexciting in AA so far.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jun 9, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Gwynn Jr. pumps his fist

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Oeltjan is pretty good defensively

IIRC

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

he can play CF can't he?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is currently manned by the Iron Bison though, and TG2 could play CF if needed.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

but it implies some defensive aptitude

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andre Ethier also played some CF in the minors. Just saying.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he is a far better defender then Gibbons

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

just saying

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

2010 All-Star Centerfielder Andre Ethier

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He played it in the minors

A lot less than I thought. 79 G in CF, 273 in RF, 323 in LF.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oeltjan is good defensively. Can play all three positions methinks

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I did have Gwynn starting at least one game. : )

by Alex41592 on Jun 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

well

best of luck Trent! I hope you knock em dead!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Dodgers lineup

Gordon SS
Blake 3B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Uribe 2B
Loney 1B
Navarro C
Gwynn LF
Kershaw P

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

“Sands, how would you like to stay in the bigs, but not play”
“That sounds terrible”
“You will get money”
“Money is nice”

by Josie Becker on Jun 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

no way they call him Sands

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

one, they never had that conversation. It was more like, you see that cab Trent just got off of, go run and catch it. Here’s your plane ticket.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

“here’s a car with a full tank of gas, and a pistol with one shot. Good luck”

by Josie Becker on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Catawba

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

you read bottom to top?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

they're good people

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Gerald Sandenberg, were gonna keep you, but not play you, and then you down later for a bottle of ovaltine”

by Josie Becker on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily think so

I think they will start Blake at 1B against most LHP, and insert Carroll into the lineup

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, I missed that.

Basically like yesterday then.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

So a Loney/Carroll platoon.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see one of Gordon/Gwynn in the 9-hole if they are both going to be in the lineup.

by BFDC on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

how is kershaw going to bunt them over then?!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He bunts over Navarro so that he has a 180-foot head start on Gwynn.

WAIT – AS IF NAVARRO GETS ON BASE. LULZ.

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by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least they can’t accuse him of clogging the pasepaths.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 9, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe the count is now

15 Isotopes (including rehab guys) who have now worn a LA Dodger uniform including outfielders, Hoffman, Sands, Gibbons, and Oeltjan)

by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Yikes....Rockies have had many (11), but not 15

Chris Nelson, Eric Young Jr, Alfredo Amezaga, Alan Johnson, Rex Brothers, Matt Daley, Charles Blackmon, Ian Stewart, Clayton Mortensen, Bruce Billings, and Greg Reynolds.

That does not include tonight’s starter, Juan Nicasio, who leapt from AA.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers have one guy (Guerra) who came right up from AA too.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

2

Lindblom

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

well ok rubby

lindblom was in aaa last year

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

uhh rubby?

Still on Frank's team! For Life! June 22 2011 is going to be our day!

by delias man on Jun 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 slow!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize Hoffmann came up this year.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he went 0 for 6 or something

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Radiation poisoning

Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?

by mleadman on Jun 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasn't Oeltjan

already on the 40 man?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. He has no options

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I now fully expect a lineup one night of
Blake – LF
Uribe – 3rd
Carroll – 2nd

Since I don’t think Thames will get any starts against RHP, and Trent will be used strictly as a bench guy,and they probably do not want to start Tony every time a RHP is on the mound. JMO

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

The only thing that would surprise me

would be after those triples to Gold Glover Andre Ethier, we see Ethier in left, Gwynn in center and Kemp (who is now hitting like a corner) in right.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

But why would you move Ethier to left when you have a perfectly good Carlos Beltran playing there?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is coming closer and closer to a reality

if he was hitting 5th…. want.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d hit him second with Raffy (prays) leadoff.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would probably be what would happen

which means it won’t and blake will be 2 all year because every time I say someone else will I’m wrong.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on this. Assuming health, I’d actually probably hit Furcal, Carroll, Beltran, Kemp, Ethier, Blake, Loney, Barajas with Uribe on the bench.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am kinda ok with this move.

 At least the Aussie can see better than Gibbons. He’s been ripping the cover off the ball, but yes of course that is in the PCL. Still, he’s also a better fielder than Gibbons. Sands will be back. He’s been struggling and I don’t think this is such a bad idea right now. If rumors are accurate, we’ll see him back in the summer anyway. (I admit I’ve been kinda rooting for Oeltjen for awhile even knowing that’s probably fool’s gold.)

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by underdog on Jun 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

So Big Dodger

buys a contract to bring a guy up from the minors, do they sell it when they send him back? Is that what DFA means, your contract given back?

Eric, I swear to god if you mention Klondike Bars…

by Josie Becker on Jun 9, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

The purchasing of the contract is simply adding him to the 40-man roster.

If a guy is on the 40-man roster already, they would recall him from the minors.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

The only way you are removed from the 40 man is with a DFA.

He was optioned back to the minor leagues.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, just off the 25-man.

by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

alright I’m with it now. Sands has options, so he was optioned back to the minors. Gibbons didn’t have options so he was DFA. And Overtine has been added to the 40 man.

by Josie Becker on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broad strokes in the terminology

Buying the contract means it was a minor leaguer not on the 40 man roster who was brought up to the majors (and there major league contract was purchased.)

Recalling a player from the minors (even if it’s technically their major league debut) means a minor leaguer who is on the 40 man, therefore he was optioned to the minors at the beginning of the year.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

purchasing the contract is just old-timey slang that doesn’t actually mean what that word means.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, they are purchasing a contract, but a new one. Minor league teams (almost?) exclusively subcontract their players of the parent organizations instead of signing them to their owns contracts. Except Will Ferrell.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just amazed anyone gives a shit about the nomenclature.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just Chinamen.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Josie is just trying to understand the process, and the nomenclature is confusing.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

and bravo to her for having the guts to ask

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heroinic?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really is amazing the images you can access on your work computer.

Didn’t seem right to put Heroineic

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I know, and that sound offputting, but I’m amazed how many do care about this. I get as far as, are they on the major league roster, cool.

I’m simple that way, didn’t mean to be snide.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a bit intriguing that we would keep using the same terms when they don’t apply anymore. That’s baseball for you.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats the entire world for you

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I give a shit. Its one sentence that tells you the circumstances of how they got on the active roster.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only people who care about to/too care about nomenclature.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably true, I’m simplistic, you guys care about details I couldn’t care less about.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a fucking software engineer. It’s nothing but details for me.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a business application programmer, the less details the more money we make consulting in the grey area’s the software never addressed.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

To – toward
Too – also

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bottom line

Our LF situation is even worse now then anything we imagined this winter when it comes to offense.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s funny, I saw this move as temporary. My first thought was, “why woudl they add Trent to the 40 man when he has no options since this move will only be unti XXX comes back.” Then I realized, there is nobody else coming back from the DL. This is it.

by Michael White on Jun 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its pretty much what I imagined actually (other than Sands coming up that quickly).

by BFDC on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scenario Unlikely

Dee Gordon is actually functional

Rafy Furcal to CF

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Raffy to third, Blake to 1B.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

loney isn't going anywhere

unless its LF

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Phil.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

After the All-Star break, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Loney sit

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

for who?

is there actually someone out there on the team hitting better then him? I guess sitting him for Carrol could happen, but Blake has to actually hit better then Loney between now and then for that to work.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

a) Jamey Carroll (at 2B, Uribe to 3B, Blake to 1B)
b) Jerry Sands, when he is recalled

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They could also end up benching Blake for Carrol

I’m not convinced he’ll OPS 800 for the rest of the season.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is the problem. The guys who could replace him are no better then him. Thames, Blake, and Sands are all wanting in June.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

and then re-signed in the offseason.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially since the Mets already have Ike Davis. /makingstuffup

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

more likely

Blake to LF, Raffy to 2nd, Uribe to 3rd.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I still like mine. NOTHING gets through the left side.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Given A)… Maybe Furcal→2B, Uribe→3B, Blake→1B or LF?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

lf

this is going to happen people.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. I think Dee would have to be better than “useful” to stick.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jun 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andre to 1B, Uribe to 3B, Blake to LF, Gwynn to CF, Kemp to RF. Uribe to C.

by LA Taco on Jun 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
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RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

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