#3 - Koufax & 1964 Topps

by delias man on Jul 10, 2011 1:25 AM PDT

Is he smiling? Is he irritated? Can't tell. 1964 Topps loved Mr. Koufax, and I will show you all of the cards that he was featured in. 1964 Topps was a pretty boring design. The closeup shot of Sandy here makes up for it.

Of course he would get top billing on this card with a 1.88 ERA in 1963. In case you did not know, Koufax was the 1963 MVP, CY Young winner, and World Series MVP. Sandy had 11 shoutouts and a no-hitter against the Giants that year. WAR of 10.8!

This card was haunting my dreams because I wanted it so bad for so many years. 3 HOF on the same card? Jackpot. You only see this card in PSA 8 condition once or twice a year on ebay. Finally I bought this card within the last year. I have seen so many that were poorly centered and this card is in pretty good shape.

So who is this Maloney guy anyways? He was all over the league leader cards with Sandy and Don in the early 60's.

I am assuming he got hurt in 1970. He had quite a nice run.

This is the first Koufax card I ever bought. This card does not cost as much as the regular versions, and I just had to have a Koufax when I started the collection. Although 15 K's is not the record today, it is such an amazing feat to witness that in a World Series game.

One of my favorite cards. The picture looks like the mob is breaking his right arm and he is screaming in pain.

Only 2 more to go.......

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bad ass

by kinbote on Jul 11, 2011 10:23 PM PDT reply actions

Cool series

Yeah, Maloney’s career ended with arm injuries. Too bad for the Reds since it looks like he just missed their heyday.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jul 12, 2011 7:12 AM PDT reply actions

One of the many 60s/70s Red pitchers to blow out his arm

Maloney, Gary Nolan, Wayne Simpson, Don Gullett. If pitchers could have stayed healthy, the Big Red Machine might have won even more than they did.

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by David Young on Jul 14, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Great series of cards

I actually like the 1964 Topps set.

I like how the “pitching leaders” is just the leaders in wins (Koufax & Marichal won 25; Spahn & Maloney won 23).

Nobody wears those windbreakers anymore under their jerseys.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 8:42 AM PDT reply actions

Nobody pitches in Candlestick anymore either :)

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions

We had all those cards once, my brothers would cut them up so they could be used with our dice baseball game.

Jim Maloney is another reason why I don’t quite believe Gary Scott when he tells me that pitchers of today throw harder then those in the 60’s.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 12, 2011 9:30 AM PDT reply actions

Stan Williams tells Gscott to GFY

by delias man on Jul 12, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions

I think Stan Williams

probably told a lot of dudes to GFY.

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by David Young on Jul 14, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions

I’ve never once said there weren’t guys throwing as hard as guys today. All I really said was that guys throwing 90+, and specifically 95+, is considerably more common today than at any other point.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jul 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions

Okay

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 14, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions

expansion helps

because there are just more pitchers in the aggregate, add that to improved training regiments, technology, sports science + medicine…yeah, I buy that.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Just as

sprinters, distance runners, swimmers, etc. have gotten faster over the years, I would expect pitchers to throw faster too. I also expect bat speed to be faster too.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions

Yep. hitters and pitching velocity are very chicken/egg though. Competition and necessity drives progress. Did training regimens help hitters get stronger and better so pitchers had to keep up? Or did pitchers throwing harder make hitter’s eyes and timing better?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions

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Pos	No	Player	2012 Salary
C	17	Ellis	$490,000
1B	7	Loney	$6,375,000
2B	37	Herrera	$375,082
3B	6	Hairston	$2,250,000
SS	9	Gordon	$485,000
LF	23	Abreu	$401,311
CF	10	Gwynn	$850,000
RF	16	Ethier	$10,950,000

OF/1B	33	Van Slyke	$388,197
2B/3B	3	Kennedy	$800,000
OF/1B	30	Sands	$375,175
IF	13	DeJesus	$448,992
C	18	Treanor	$850,000

SP	22	Kershaw	$6,000,000
SP	58	Billingsley	$9,000,000
SP	29	Lilly	$12,000,000
SP	44	Harang	$3,000,000
SP	35	Capuano	$3,000,000

CL	74	Jansen	$491,000
RHP	52	Lindblom	$483,000
RHP	51	Belisario	$414,426
RHP	54	Guerra	$488,000
RHP	28	Wright	$900,000
LHP	57	Elbert	$488,500
RHP	60	Coffey	$1,000,000

DL	27	Kemp	$10,000,000
DL	21	Rivera	$4,000,000
DL	12	Sellers	$481,000
DL	5	Uribe	$8,000,000
DL	55	Guerrier	$4,750,000
DL	14	Ellis	$2,500,000
60DL	36	Hawksworth	$495,000
60DL	41	De La Rosa	$485,000

AA	50	Eovaldi	$7,885
AAA	56	Antonini	$7,869

		Manny	$8,087,432	deferred
		Andruw	$3,375,000	deferred
		Pierre	$3,050,000	deferred
		Furcal	$3,000,000	deferred
		Kuroda	$2,000,000	deferred
		Garland	$1,500,000	option buyout
		Blake	$1,250,000	option buyout
DFA	66	MacDougal	$650,000

Totals			$115,942,869
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Current 40-man roster count: 42 (incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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