Dodgers Acquire Juan Rivera From Toronto; DFA Marcus Thames
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT
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As expected, the Dodgers have designated Marcus Thames for assignment. Thames was hitting just .197/.243/.333 this season, and hasn't been able to play left field lately with a sore calf. However, Thames' replacement wasn't expected, as the Dodgers have acquired former Angel Juan Rivera from the Blue Jays for a player to be named later or cash considerations. Rivera was designated for assignment by Toronto last week.
One would expect a team in bankruptcy to not be able to take on much salary, which makes the acquisition of a player making $5.25 million this season perplexing. Especially when that team is 11 games out of a playoff spot. Beginning tomorrow, there are 79 days left in the season, meaning Rivera is owed roughly $2,266,393.
The 33-year old Rivera is hitting .243/.305/.360 this season, and has hit lefties to the tune of .327/.400/.509, so he is an upgrade over Thames, especially considering Rivera is physically able to play the field. Dodgers left fielders have hit .213/.305/.313 with two home runs. Rivera has also started 20 games at first base this season, so at the very least gives the Dodgers another viable option to bench James Loney against southpaws.
Without knowing how much cash is coming from Toronto in the transaction, it's hard to fully judge the deal. But it does seem kind of pointless, at least at first glance, and delusional at worst.
UPDATE: Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun says the Dodgers are paying "roughly $175,000" of Rivera's remaining salary, with the Blue Jays paying up the rest. The prorated minimum salary ($414,000) over 79 days is $178,721.
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I would be stunned if it's anyone decent, given Jays had already DFA'd him
worry there is if Jays eat most of remaining salary, maybe they ask for more than they normally would get?
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Wouldn’t worry too much about that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I do think it'll be no worse than giving up a Troncoso or a Link or whatever
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The amount of angst towards this move
will be inversely proportional to how much it actually matter
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I dunno. People are just looking for something to talk about. Seems like everyone is taking it pretty much in stride.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
we haven't heard from certain... folks yet
give it time
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This is obviously
the final piece to the puzzle and its just a matter of time now for the playoffs.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Need one more piece
Juan Rivera ranks #1473 on BB-Ref’s ELO meter… exactly one spot ahead of Cody Ross!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
AH HA!!!!
it all fits now
we’ll win the World Series, and Juan Rivera will hit like Babe Ruth during the playoffs to get us there!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd prefer to send some cash back, hahah
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Meanwhile, in local news
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s the garbage disposal part that’s the best…ahahhahahaa
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I was shaking my head because the link was posted last thread
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
damn it, Josie, get your head in the game
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Everyone has Tripon disease this morning
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Just Josie being Tripon
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So weird, I was watching a 15 year old Robert Klein HBO special last night and he was making fun of how Bobbitt was a nobody who became famous for having his penis cut off and was now making more money then he was.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Good, so Jerry Sands netted some money too.
@dylanohernandez: The #Dodgers also received cash in the Rivera deal.
So the Rangers traded Vernon Wells
for Frank Francisco and whatever Rivera costs them this year. They now saved about 75M on that deal.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Simple mistake, you know he meant BlueJays
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
We already have Ralston
(although is he MIA these days or what?)
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hurt
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a bad choice
No. 35 is Austin Gallagher. Don’t think he has a whole lot of promise.
by FeelinKindaBlue on Jul 12, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
His nickname really needs to be Smoky
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by mleadman on Jul 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So they will put Link on the 40 man roster
again. I don’t know what his deal is since he still has an option or two, currently he was signed as a FA after being DFAed earlier this year.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Link doesn’t not have to be put on the 40-man right now if traded to the Jays. If the Jays don’t want to expose him to the Rule 5 draft in November, then yeah.
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike P of MSTI has a good summation of this trade and what it may (or may not) mean...
http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2011/07/12/dodgers-dfa-marcus-thames-trade-for-juan-rivera/
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I see nothing in Mike’s comments that were not covered by Eric.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
not much more no, just always like his take on things as additional input
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If Dodger's left fielders have slugged 2 dingers all season
which team is the second most inept in that department
"show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy"
Good guess
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I could see this being the kind of deal
that if Rivera doesn’t stick, the Dodgers end up just sending the Jays cash in lieu of a player when all is said and done.
I guess we should be celebratory since Ned acquired a hitter not a relief pitcher.
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Don’t you have some meercat babies to make?
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This does put those
Jerry Sands coming up in July rumors in danger.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m good with that, Sands needs more Lowry’s® seasoning salt
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
What about a belly itcher?
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So did we some how become the loser of the Vernon Wells trade? lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Angels will always have that distinction.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
They'll get over it when he leads them to the WS
but watching him get shut down by the Dodgers pitchers in the WS will renew the cries for Reagin’s head
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Blake Griffin: Breakthrough Athlete! A no brainer as one of the LA ESPYs
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6759455&ex_cid=nhffromfb
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???
This move doesn’t make sense to me. I hope that we are not buyers now. I don’t see us being much better with Rivera and we were with Thames. If we are 5 or so games out than being buyers makes sense but I think we will be 9 or so games out and be sellers.
Maybe this is like the Barajas move last season. Not going to change that we are sellers(hopefully) but gives us an upgrade and if all goes well could be back on the team next season.
by dodgers4life on Jul 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a minor upgrade for no cost. It’s pointless, but why not do it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
because how will we trade Kuroda
for a top 10 overall prospect now?!
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I don’t think this trade is about being a seller or a buyer. We need a right handed LF/1B and we found one off of the scrap heap. Now, you could make the argument that Sands should be called up instead, but he would probably only start against LHP. Management likely wants Sands to play every day and polish up some holes they saw at the big league level last time he was here. If Rivera breaks down, then maybe Sands comes up.
This.
I am kind of amazed at how quickly people can panic.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
On the levels of Panic this was barely a ripple
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I already stole “I for one” in thread. Give it back.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Fallacy
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I am bamboozled.
Or maybe just boozled. I forget.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m nonplussed by the reaction to this news, given how unperturbed I feel
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I definitely have not been panicking about it. Slightly bored maybe, a little curious, but not panicking. :-)
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indeed
first prize
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
too delusional to hope
that ned is hoping rivera has a good month and then ships him off to someone on Jul 31?
by truemontenegro on Jul 12, 2011 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
yes
because we are two weeks into the month. So unless Ned can bend the space time continuum…
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Wait, I like this plan. Somebody dig up Richard Feynman!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He's in the same cemetery as my grandmother!
in Altadena
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE FEYNMAN
You can die but you can’t hide.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Juan Rivera’s value will be exactly what it is today on the 31st. He’s a known commodity.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
You just confused the shit out of Ned
"Fast just got Faster"
Not when Castro is traded for Batista.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully we don’t give up a top 10-20 prospect and the money we got will be used in another trade to get back better prospects.
This trade will be as relevant as the Jim Thome trade.
We’re not gonna get any useful production
We’re not going to give up anything you could possibly care about.
The amount of money changing hands will pay a real player for like two days.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
The Jim Thome trade was fun!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Very important. Thames for Rivera is a huge drop in the fun level.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't care more then you don't care
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
No one cares less then me, unless it is Phil
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I am too drunk and bloated with cheese to even follow this conversation. What are we talking about?
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
How HJ has a thirst for good things.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
food and drink! good food and drink! Don’t make me out to be some pampered boy
As an example, a car is a toaster to me, serves a purpose but not a huge distinction…scratch that, relatively speaking, my toaster is much nicer than my car
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I for one am glad that Ned was able to use all the resources at his disposal too outwit all the other teams who were hell bent on making Juan Rivera a member of their team. With only one more day to spare, he culminated a deal that will allow the Dodgers to stay competitive in the NL West and send a message to his players and fans that the Dodgers will do whatever it takes to …………….
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BillShaikin
Selig endorses idea of DH rule in NL parks, no DH in AL parks during interleague play.
Waste of time.
it's funny
i had forgotten how much i hate selig since he’s been on “our side” for the mccourt debacle.
by truemontenegro on Jul 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I like that idea. If you are going to continue to have two different rules, I like the idea of the other league getting the other side of the pillow.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you going to do that in the World Series? Why the double standard?
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
It changes the dynamic of “home field advantage” if you’re an AL club.
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Then don’t use it in the World Series. It doesn’t bother me either way.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I think all the pitching in World Series games should be done by robots, and all running should be done by midgets.
If you can’t be bothered to carry robots and midgets on your 25-man roster all year, you don’t belong in the World Series.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
No one gets my pillow but me
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
And Christina Hendricks. But that’s it!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
and that Zooey woman
but that’s it, just those two
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I like it too
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Just like they do it at AL parks!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
the visual does not work
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
obviously your buns have never been inside out
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
the nacho cheese
will go UNDER the chips
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I get freaked out by pizza with sauce above the cheese.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
It can be so good though
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Like a really good Chicago style, sure. I just don’t trust it, that’s all.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
heh
my favorite pizza comes that way, and it ain’t chicago style
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
my favorite pizza is Chicago style
but I hate deep dish. Thin crust for me
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
How do you know?!
you’ve never tried it!
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I’m an expert in things I haven’t tried
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I admit, my eyes first went to the boobs.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You made me go back to see what you be talking about. Yes
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
And you beat it to a bloody pulp.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
It works with a KFC Double Down approach…two hot dogs, one bun in between.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
two hot dogs
cheese and bacon in between. No bun.
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that’s the plot!
the title would be like “Workout stud social”
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
From wikipedia [grain of salt warning]
[In 2007] While playing for Oriente in Venezuela’s winter ball, Rivera broke his leg sliding for first and was placed on the disabled list by the Angels.
Emphasis mine.
meercatfool
Selig endorses idea of right handed batters running to 3rd in AL parks and left handed batters to 1st base during interleague play.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
hah that would be fun
they should do that in the all star game
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Silly man, the first runner on dictates which direction the others runners have to move until the bases are cleared.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SWEET.
Opening the door for LH infield specialists……I CAN FINALLY PLAY THE FUN POSITIONS!
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 12, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Mid-day trivia
Did you hear that Derek Jeter became the first New York Yankee to get 3000 hits as a Yankee over the weekend. So I got to wondering which franchise has the lowest amounts of hits as their career leader. I will tell you that the answer is Florida, Luis Castillo has 1273 hits, Arizona’s Luis Gonzalez at 1337 is just ahead.
But then, those teams were formed in the 90s. Prior to 90s expansion, there is one team whose career leader has less than 1500 hits, can you name that team and extra bonus points for the player.
I want to say the Rangers, but I’m sure I’m forgetting somebody obvious.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Michael Young is their career leader
with 1900+ hits.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
BlueJays?
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be my guess, especially if this was an AFLAC question, since the question always seems to tie in with something relevant that day.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Did BH pull a Xeifrank?
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Blue Jays
leader is Tony Fernandez with 1589, Vernon Wells is second with 1529 hits
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I also don’t know their all-time hit leader.
Was Alomar there long enough? I’d guess Lloyd Moseby, but probably be wrong.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Palmero?
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oh
I didn’t know he played for the orioles between stints with the rangers
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He was always that guy who plays for the rangers
and is in the viagra commercials to me
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Rangers were the Senators
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
or am i confusing
that with the Twins?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
They were both the Senators.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s a Senator, he’s a senator, we’re all senators! Are there any other senators I should know about? #spongebob
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Both
the original Senators moved to Minnesota to become the Twins. In 1961, a new expansion team Senators (the one Boswell waxes poetic about), came to town but then left to become the Rangers).
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
and we gave them another team?!
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Third time’s the charm!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
The Expos leader is our
own Tim Wallach with 1694 hits, Raines had 1622.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Mets
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Hmmm- this is shocking
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
he was on my list but I said, Nah, couldn’t be him.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m more shocked that no one has more then he does then it being him. He was a Met for a long time, it would be like Wes Parker having the most hits for the Dodgers
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew it would be him after thinking back to Cardboard Gods’ series on Mets Franchise All-Stars. He is the Mets leader in career games played.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Jose Reyes
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I meant to hit cancel not post
oops
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
If Reyes re-ups with the Mets
he will pass that guy.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Piazza
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Nope
He is all time Mets leader in games played with 1853.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
ITS NOT STAUB
but the other guy, from the 60s, career met, funny name
someone for the love of god help me
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The guy it is, I don’t remember ever seeing footage of him play.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You never watched the 69 World Series ?
Kids
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He was not in the WS video that I can recall.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he get hurt in the 1969 World Series? I see he only played once. That would explain his absence from the 1969 WS video.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I"m guessing more along the line of brilliant LH starters for the Orioles. That is why they got Donn Clendenon
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It is not Ron Swoboda but someone much like him
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
my noon call is starting, I give up
damn
name is like a sitcom name
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
he wasnt good!!!
bad hitter – firstbase and OF I think
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He was playing in the major leagues at the age of 18, I remember him being a huge bonus baby flop. But he stuck around forever.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Kranepool?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
BH’s game but Bingo
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
and he has over 200 hits more then Reyes. Amazing really
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ed Kranepool?
Only throwing that out there as funny named career Met…
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Stupid router crash.
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I hope the Dodgers have budgeted for paying Juan Rivera $75,000 for winning NLCS MVP or $100,000 for winning World Series MVP, or both.
if you shop at Goodwill, are you a shopaholic?
by Josie Becker on Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
No, just poor. Perhaps homeless. And maybe crazy.
by KellyStephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve gotten my best fitting jeans at the Santa Barbara Goodwill store. I’m neither poor nor a shopholic.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
oh man, that's one of the better Goodwill stores...
lots of castoffs from wealthy Montecito types…
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Upper left hand corner
Fuck you, Ruiz.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
What amazes me is people bitching
about this getting a lot of coverage. ITS 3000 HITS DAMNIT, its a big deal.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
People will bitch about anything, that is what is amazing to me.
Phucking wankers
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
See and I don’t either….but man, I would not be mad if he had been our SS his whole career
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 12, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny Damon isn't as good a player as Jeter
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I'm honestly surprised he never won the AL MVP award
came really close a few times
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I was on the Pedro for MVP bandwagon in 1999, when Ivan Rodriguez won, but I thought Jeter had as good a case as anyone that year (.349/.438/.552)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This is stunning to me given how much I hear the media fawns over him.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
There just always seemed to be someone having a better year.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
He lost to a guy with a 3.5 war once
the only player actually better then him finished somewhere around 7th.
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even funner the MVP and the guy who should have won
where/are team mates
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ok I lied
there where several more guys with higher war, but they where so far down the list I didn’t even see them. Who the fuck votes for this thing?
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Just one additional note of interest re the Rivera move
(FWIW it’s from Heyman)
@SI_JonHeyman
juan rivera and cash were sent to dodgers in trade, and cash may go back to jays as compensation. almost like a loan for la
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I do think that was just Heyman getting in a dig. I highly doubt the amount of cash is equal.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about the dig part... or at least Heyman isn't usually that clever or ironic ;-)
but maybe you’re right… And yeah I doubt the cash is equal per se.
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MLB has to approve any cash changing hands $1 million or over.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Proposed new wild card format
Any concerns that a 3rd place team could reach the World Series? Or should the second wild card be required to finish #2 in their division?
I’m not a fan of anything being wild other then the joker.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Not even girls? Not even rice?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Not even Honey Pie?
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by David Young on Jul 12, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
DAVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God you are back. Meet up tonight for the all-star game
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw there was a FanPost on that
Don’t think I’ll be able to make it though. :-(
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by David Young on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Blow off whatever you've gotta do and come have some fun
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That's the second time you've used a trident layers joke, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
My idea
was a flexible playoff system w/ up to 2 extra wild card teams, where it’s the standard 4 that it is now by default, but two more teams can make it if they win 90 games. Another variant is to say instead of 90 games, make the threshold just more wins than the worst division winner. In 2005, the Phillies (88-74), Marlins and Mets (both 83-79) had a better record than the Padres (82-80).
With 4 teams total, same as now.
With 5 teams total, first round give a bye to the division winners, and the wild cars play a quick 3 game set*.
With 6 teams total, first round give a bye to top 2 division winners, and wild cards go with top wild card and lowest division winner at home and other 2 WC road for quick 3 game set*.
- Quick 3 game set – best of 3, starting with a day/night doubleheader at homefield team’s yard. Game 3 to be played on the 3rd day at the visiting team’s yard.
by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Garland had season ending surgery yesterday, apparently. I didn’t know this.
The Age of Rubby begins.
170 innings only please
means shutting him down in august so he can throw some playoff relief
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes room for some Captain Eo spots
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It was announced last week, on Tuesday.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there’s a chance Ned could acquire a starter out of nowhere and make Rubby the closer come August.
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
zero chance since Javy will be long his way toward a ROY season as he leads all of baseball in saves after the all-star game.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
this is soooooooo pointless
but as long as we dont give up prospects, I wont have an issue.
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How you like that Guerrier signing?
Of all the signings multi-year signings of relievers, Matt Guerrier has the most meltdowns.
I forgot, what are the criteria for meltdowns?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
A Shutdown is when a reliever accumulates greater than or equal to 0.06 WPA in any individual game.
A Meltdown is when a reliever’s WPA is less than or equal to -0.06 in any individual game.
What is a WPA? – did Franklin Roosevelt come up with that?
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Its a measure of how many jobs the reliever creates by stoking the indignation of fans and sports radio hosts. Broxton has led the Dodgers in WPA for the last two yeras.
by fbihop on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hah
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a worthy attempt at least.
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What percentage you change your teams chance of winning the game. A Meltdown is when the pitcher decreases your teams win probablity by more than 5%
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ridic stat, I would have gone with 6% since that has been proven time and time again to be the threshold where a team gives up.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Reg said there would be days like this
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
and yet
positive WAR. only needs to get to 1 WAR to justify the salary, right? $4mil per WAR?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
They also say in the article that I stupidly didn’t link to that WAR is probably not the best way to judge relievers.
to be fair he’s also had more opportunities than anyone else on the list.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Is it fair for someone
to be on a list when he is hurt.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
yah
and I’m still okay with the Guerrier signing (except, again, not liking the length of the deal, which was dumb, although I guess necessary if they wanted him). The bullpen fell apart due to injuries so they kinda needed MG and Hawksworth pretty desperately. Guerrier’s been a little disappointing to me but also not as bad as some people seem to think. I would still be on board with a near-future MacDougal DFA though. (Tho he’s been a little better the last couple times out iirc.)
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43 games out of 92 is a lot of games. 75 game pace. While I’m sure he’s done that before, it doesn’t mean a lot of the burden hasn’t been placed on him.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
this is a dumb counting stat
meltdowns as a percentage of appearences would be better
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
that makes me feel better
as you were
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Something that may only interest me
Even with the Reserve Clause in place for 70 years, the Philadelphia/KC/Oakland Athletics don’t have a single player with more than 1882 hits in their career on that team. I guess a lot of that has to do with Connie Mack selling players and then Finley doing the same.
Who is Connie Mack
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he was the coach for the Cowboys who wore the suit.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
The first women's coach
/lisa simpson
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Managed one team for 50 or so years, Also owned the team. Was know for making pennies screem from the way that he pinched them. Makes Donald Sterling seem like a nice guy.
are you sure
you’re not combining him with Charles Cominsky?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
What does Steve Finley have to do with the A’s?
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
See you tonight
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
BillShaikin
Union chief Weiner: players support 15 teams in NL, 15 in AL
Six months of interleague play is ridic.
Every other sport in the US does it and no one complains
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Baseball is the only sport where the two league have different rules, amirite.
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Luckily he was not alive to endure the pain of Green Bay doing some major whup ass when they let the AFC play the NFC
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched the Super Bowl I highlights recently. The Packers were holding on the ends the entire game.
Veteran team knew how to play the game
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
DH for all
it’s a coming
“Hey grandkids, did I ever tell you in my day, the pitcher would bat?”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard some of the ESPN radio of the home run derby. They had Clayton on and he said he would like to see a pitchers home run derby.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Translation
Me and Billz have to settle some shit.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Zambrano would probably win. He has 22 career home runs.
Micah Owings would also be fun to watch hit.
They need to limit it to good pitchers, no one wants to see crappy pitchers hit a baseball:)
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
they'll just bring their catchers
I’ve been told they throw the best batting practice
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If I'm being honest I almost like it
he could be useful to have around since Thames can’t stay healthy long enough to see the field
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he can hit lefties
and he can play LF. And we already know the shit production we have gotten from lf this year. the return for the blue jays is minimal anyways.
its just sad to me
that we made terrible moves to address lf in the offseason, knew they were terrible, and we’re still trying to fix the gaping wound
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I mean we upgraded from an utterly useless player as it turned out (didn't expect him to be that bad but he was)
who couldn’t stay healthy, either, as you say, for a guy who can at least hit a bit, has some pop, and can also play 1st (which Thames really couldn’t). And can hit lefties.
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So he’ll be hurt quicker then I can shake a finger
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
or he'll hurt his finger from shaking it.
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Has to be 3 Dog does it not?
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Big deal about Garv leaving as a free agent before getting his 2,000 hit as a Dodger.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
now that hitting performance is returning to 1970’s levels….can we re-start the garvey for HOF rants
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder is this group could name every LA Dodger with over 1,000 hits?
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I just saw that list
not that hard if you know your Dodger history
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, fairly easy group if you know what I mean
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
How many are there?
Karros, The 1970’s Infield, Willie Davis, Tommy Davis, Wills, Guerrero, Sax… Can think of a few others who might be
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Fourteen
Tommy Davis is not on the list
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
played here 7 years, hit in the .360’s a couple times, thought it had a chance.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
i guess the first year was only a few games and the last is when he got traded. Thought it was 7 full.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Five seasons, and the lost games due to the strike eat up the extra games from 1992 and 1998.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He is not the catcher on the list
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Four have been managers
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know but he missed the cut ONE hit
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Scioscia
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes, number 10 with 1131
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much the 70’s group a few 60’s guys, two 80 guys
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s not on my list, but my original selection was > 1,000 games, I need to modify that.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Now he shows up, so 15 and Mondesi holds up the list at 1004
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I could put some educated guesses out there
First about how many are over 1000?
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15
Players named already are
Willie Davis
Garvey
Russell
Scoscia
Mondesi
Fairly
Parker
Sax
Pedro
Cey
Lopes
Wills
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Three left
All played for a long time, all were good, one not as good as many thought he was when he played.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrestled with two of them, wondering if they played enough during their 9 and 8 years, respectively.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I expected two of them to be no brainers, I could understand not getting the 60’s guy since he died so young.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And he is the one guy
who played for the 1955 World Series winner.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
And the other guy
well a pox on anyone who has not already the list who can’t get that guy.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Just LA Dodgers? How ablout those who played in both Brooklyn and LA? Just their LA hits? (Where do you even find that out?)
Did Jim Lefevre hit enough? Junior Gilliam?
You can use the b-r play index to limit your search to 1958-present.
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by David Young on Jul 12, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Missed it, so add Karros
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll say Shawn Green?
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No
The two left
Davy Lopes once dedicated a World Series to him, then lost the World Series.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
defeated
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
by Dr. Pepper
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Jim Gilliam
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Cocaine Baker is correct
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Final List
Player H From To Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Willie Davis 2091 1960 1973 20-33 .279 .312 .413 .725 *8/9
Steve Garvey 1968 1969 1982 20-33 .301 .337 .459 .796 *35/7649
Bill Russell 1926 1969 1986 20-37 .263 .310 .338 .648 *69/8745
Maury Wills 1732 1959 1972 26-39 .281 .331 .332 .663 *6/5
Eric Karros 1608 1991 2002 23-34 .268 .325 .457 .782 *3/D
Ron Cey 1378 1971 1982 23-34 .264 .359 .445 .804 *5
Steve Sax 1218 1981 1988 21-28 .282 .339 .356 .696 *4/57
Davey Lopes 1204 1972 1981 27-36 .262 .349 .380 .729 *4/8695
Dusty Baker 1144 1976 1983 27-34 .281 .343 .437 .780 *7/89
Mike Scioscia 1131 1980 1992 21-33 .259 .344 .356 .700 *2
Pedro Guerrero 1113 1978 1988 22-32 .309 .381 .512 .893 59783/4
Wes Parker 1110 1964 1972 24-32 .267 .351 .375 .726 *3/987
Jim Gilliam 1084 1958 1966 29-37 .261 .358 .338 .696 *547/938
Ron Fairly 1010 1958 1969 19-30 .260 .347 .385 .732 938/7
Raul Mondesi 1004 1993 1999 22-28 .288 .334 .504 .838 *98/7
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 7/12/2011.
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Knew how to swing his stick, at the plate and across the clubhouse deli platter.
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by David Young on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Wiltie Chamberlain?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Jackie boy?
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Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'
LF Trayon
1b or RF Sands
SS Gordon
Get them P-T now or in Sept
We need to be sellers. Period. For the long term good. 3 weeks, git ’er dun.
Mr Kuroda, where would you like to play? Loney? Blake?
Atleast get younger.
Juan Rivera. Fine, but why? WHY?
but why? WHY?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLlIdZikDk
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I haven't clicked the link yet
but that better be Human Nature by Michael Jackson.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Do I look old to you?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Because
they want Trayvon and Sands in the minors for the rest of the year, they probably don’t mind Gordon if they deal Furcal coming up.
Loney and Blake are not going anywhere.
Kuroda could go but it will be more likely for a project prospect or besmirched one.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
besmirched one?
Perchance one that lost their maidenhood?
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
call is over, now waiting on data, when I get data I price
can’t do anything else in the meantime
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Quote from Ned
“Juan will provide us with a right-handed hitting counterpart to Tony Gwynn Jr. and can also fill in for James Loney from time to time at first base.”.
sounds like
Sands will be in ABQ until Sept
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
or until july 31st
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stop it!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I will not
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
He just used the quote template from when he signed Marcus Thames. :-/
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Close
"Marcus brings a power bat to our outfield options, particularly against left-handed pitching," said Colletti. "His positive presence in the clubhouse is an added benefit and he also knows what it takes to play in the postseason."
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice, I definitely was getting deja vu. Though guess e didn't add "first base" when speaking of Thames.
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He knows it takes talent
He just didn’t have any
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Reprinted from TBLA tweet
Ned: "Juan will provide us with a RH hitting counterpart to Tony Gwynn Jr. and can also fill in for James Loney from time to time at 1B"
The real question
Will Andre Ethier (likely) and Matt Kemp (less likely than Ethier) join the 1,000 hit club before 2012?
Ethier: 824 hits
Kemp: 748 hits
Kemp needs 252 hits in 232 games. In his last 232 games, for instance, Kemp has 226 hits.
Neither makes it as Dodgers
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Andre gets dealt, Kemp does not get 1000 hits by the end of 2012
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think Andre really wont get another 176 hits as in 1.5 seasons?
Or do you think he is traded next season?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
look up
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Will any Dodger get their 1000th walk, ever?
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
A 40 year old AJ Ellis
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Since it already happened, Yes
but if you limit it LA Dodgers, No, never going to happen.
Player BB From To Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Pee Wee Reese 1210 1940 1958 21-39 .269 .366 .377 .743 *65
Jim Gilliam 1036 1953 1966 24-37 .265 .360 .355 .715 *457/983
Gil Hodges 925 1943 1961 19-37 .274 .360 .488 .847 *3/275984
Duke Snider 893 1947 1962 20-35 .300 .384 .553 .936 *89/7
Ron Cey 765 1971 1982 23-34 .264 .359 .445 .804 *5
Jackie Robinson 740 1947 1956 28-37 .311 .409 .474 .883 *4537/69
Zack Wheat 632 1909 1926 21-38 .317 .367 .452 .819 *7/89
Davey Lopes 603 1972 1981 27-36 .262 .349 .380 .729 *4/8695
Dolph Camilli 584 1938 1943 31-36 .270 .392 .497 .889 *3
Mike Scioscia 567 1980 1992 21-33 .259 .344 .356 .700 *2
Dixie Walker 539 1939 1947 28-36 .311 .386 .441 .827 *987
Roy Campanella 533 1948 1957 26-35 .276 .360 .500 .860 *2
Wes Parker 532 1964 1972 24-32 .267 .351 .375 .726 *3/987
Ron Fairly 522 1958 1969 19-30 .260 .347 .385 .732 938/7
Eric Karros 517 1991 2002 23-34 .268 .325 .457 .782 *3/D
Carl Furillo 514 1946 1960 24-38 .299 .355 .458 .813 *98/7
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love it
if we could assemble the most patient L.A. Dodgers team of all-time.
by silverwidow on Jul 12, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
get me
Peter Brand!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Most patient LA Dodgers all-team, 1500 PA minimum
Using the highest OBPs and > 12.5% BB to PA:
LF – Sheffield
CF – Butler
RF – Smith
3B – Cey
2B – Gilliam
1B – Hansen/Monday (if I stretch the definition of 1B a bit)
C – Ferguson
If I drop the threshold to 12%, the 1B becomes Brock, with no other changes.
I had to drop the threshold to 11.25% to find a SS. Can you guess who that is?
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The Fans
the 10th most patient player
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
SS? Reese or Wills would be my guess... but probably wrong...
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All of the SS guesses so far
are incorrect.
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Wow, this might be a good guess. Just looked up his stats (without figuring out the % per se)
Either way was surprisingly good in that regard…
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Offerman did not have offensive problems
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he did not indeed. was just surprised he had what seems an even better walk rate than expected.
If only he wasn’t such a shit fielder, sigh…
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Exactly
Selective end points: from ages 26-30, Offerman hit .300 / .387 / .415 / .802 / 108 OPS+
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I still hate him
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Holy shit, i'd be thrilled to have those numbers from a ss/2b
Why do we hate him?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
bad fielder
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He wasn’t particularly good with the bat in L.A. He was called O-ffer-four for a reason.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
This were his peers during his full time play with the Dodgers as our SS.
Player OPS+ G From To Age PA SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
Barry Larkin 124 481 1992 1995 28-31 2117 106 12 .304 .383 .454 .838 *6 CIN
Jay Bell 106 561 1992 1995 26-29 2493 27 20 .279 .352 .414 .766 *6/5 PIT
Jeff Blauser 102 495 1992 1995 26-29 2051 30 19 .263 .356 .405 .761 *6/45 ATL
Wil Cordero 100 424 1992 1995 20-23 1689 37 11 .278 .338 .427 .765 *6/745 MON
Tony Fernandez 96 307 1992 1994 30-32 1320 38 29 .269 .343 .370 .713 *6/54 SDP-NYM-CIN
Jose Offerman 90 498 1992 1995 23-26 2094 57 37 .263 .348 .336 .684 *6 LAD
Ozzie Smith 86 415 1992 1995 37-40 1808 74 23 .276 .339 .339 .678 *6 STL
Kevin Stocker 84 277 1993 1995 23-25 1109 13 3 .263 .357 .335 .692 *6 PHI
Andujar Cedeno 82 438 1992 1995 22-25 1606 17 11 .242 .306 .365 .672 *6/5 HOU-SDP
Jose Vizcaino 78 475 1992 1995 24-27 1939 24 23 .270 .318 .342 .661 *6/54 CHC-NYM
Royce Clayton 77 497 1992 1995 22-25 1939 66 26 .251 .305 .342 .646 *6/5 SFG
Rey Sanchez 76 389 1992 1995 24-27 1424 11 11 .275 .312 .342 .654 *64/5 CHC
Ricky Gutierrez 74 275 1993 1995 23-25 978 11 9 .252 .328 .320 .647 *6/4579 SDP-HOU
Walt Weiss 72 405 1993 1995 29-31 1614 34 13 .259 .370 .310 .680 *6 FLA-COL
Rafael Belliard 40 356 1992 1995 30-33 723 2 5 .221 .261 .261 .522 *6/4 ATL
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Thinking about it now
Those numbers aren’t any good in the steroid era.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Bingo
Exclusively a SS in 6 years with LA, played only 269 more innings there in nine seasons with other teams.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I just remember KC getting him and immediately moving him to 2nd and viola they had a good hitting second baseman who wasn’t killing them on defense. He was always meant to be a right sided infielder but the damn team who groomed him from the time he was 16 couldn’t figure that out.
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How did you use the PI to find this? PI is like learning Latin for me.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
For me
on things like this you have to just set up the basic set of results you want. So on this one based on Dave’s criteria, I searched for Dodgers between 1958-2011, with position of SS checked off, used 1500 PA and then made BB at 165 (11% of PA). That gave me 5 players, I looked at the ratio of walks to PA and determined in seconds that it was Jose.
For the total hits per franchise, it is a much easier search, but then again not that much easier.
You cheated and looked it up?
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I’m bringing monopoly money tonight
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Actually I’m not because I’m going right from work.
Do you some monopoly money you can bring for night of betting on stupid things
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Of course not, because you are going right from work also.
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If I had monopoly i'd bring some
I’ll bring McCourt Bux instead.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Use the "Minimum Career Playing Time " selections, and the last set of numerical entries in the “Select Additional Criteria Games Must Match” section.
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I think he ends up with around 970-980 hits by the end of next year for Kemp
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
oh boy
That means less than 1 hour until the actual Red Carpet show! I can hardly wait!
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 12, 2011 12:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Liked this
from Blue Jays reporter John Lott:
Pushed out by Eric Thames in Toronto, Juan Rivera pushes out Marcus Thames in Los Angeles.
We've got
Many Riveras to Cross before this season is over.
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by David Young on Jul 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully Juan will a-Nile-ate NL pitching. I should stop before this gets in-Seine.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jul 12, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We could go on, but we don’t need the tsuris.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Styx and stones, my friend.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
On Sunday night
I walked into a place that had ESPN up on the TV and the crawl had the Toronto score followed by the batting lines, including one for “Thames, x-x”. Having no idea the BJs had a different Thames on the roster, I thought, how did Ned get Toronto, of all clubs, to take Marcus off his hands?
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by David Young on Jul 12, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish we had Eric Thames
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
lol, that's really funny
As good as Jered Weaver taking Jeff Weaver’s roster spot on the Angels.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The guy who caught Jeter's 3,000th hit
and gave the ball back for a few gifts from Jeter and the Yankees may have to pay a shit-load of taxes on the items to the IRS. Would be nice for him if the free tickets, signed bats and balls were considered gifts (non taxable items). What would you do in this situation? Sell the ball and collect $250K and pay taxes on that. Or give the ball to the player on your favorite team and accept a nice haul of gifts from them with the chances you’d have to pay taxes on them?
stupid country
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by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the right thing to do for one of their most famous players ever
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
When Oprah had those big giveaway shows
They covered the taxes on all the stuff they gave to the audience.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
wouldn't that be considered a gift?
which would then be taxable?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
If more then a mil changes hand
it comes under the scrutiny of MLB anyways does it not?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Pretty much
if the deal fits under the current budget and no problem with McCourt, Schieffer said he would not have any issue (though right now, they may not be involved unless as Eric says, a million dollars plus is transferred, which is no different than any other deal.
I am wondering
what the conversation was like between Ned and Frank. Perhaps, it went something like this:
(Ned walks into Frank’s office
Ned: Frank, what’s up man!
Frank: Oh, you know, the usual – regulatin’ and litigatin’.
Ned: I gotcha.
Ned: Hey, have you done something different with your hair?
Frank: Not really, though I did try a new conditioner.
Ned: Well, it looks great with the new trim physique you got. Have you lost a few?
(Frank glares at Ned)
Frank: How much?
Ned: What?
Frank: How much?
Ned: Man, you silly!
Frank: How much?
Ned: Nah, it aint like that.
Frank: How much?
Ned: Well, you see we got this great opportunity to add a proven bat to our struggling offense.
Frank(looking worried): Beltran? Fielder?
Ned: Rivera
Frank: You almost gave me a heart attack, get out.
Your hypothetical is based on the silly proposition that Frank knows or cares anything about baseball.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
USA-Brazil Women’s World Cup match had the third-most amount of viewers in the USA for any Women’s World Cup match with nearly 3.9 million viewers.
The two matches with more viewers were USA vs. China in 1999 (11.4 million viewers!) and USA vs Brazil in 1999 (4.9 million viewers).
if we make the finals
any guesses as to the viewership of that game? I assume well short of the 11.4M from the China game. With some of the stronger well known teams out, I can’t imagine anything approaching that game.
What day/time is the final game?
I would imagine if US is in it the ratings will be similar or slightly better, but depends a bit on the day and time. I think the time difference affects it a little bit but a weekend morning game should again draw pretty well.
First, beat France tomorrow! (Sorry JoJo)
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Ah the final is Sunday morning
similar time… should get good ratings again, if US makes it.
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so, after the break
when is the first time the Dodgers face a LHP?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 1:24 PM PDT reply actions
well whaddya know
first game. Saunders.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
and Tuesday
Rubby v Bumgarner in SF
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 1:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How about leaving Ethier in there and having Rivera play 1st in that one?
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Gwynn, yeah sorry
Better outfielder than Rivera, in that big park in SF, and RIvera can handle first
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I wish our Thames had over flowed with greatness distributing a wealth of richness for the plains to use over and over for generations instead of the crap we got.
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so it was more like the Ganges
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Bill Simmons’ buddy Gus has a bunch of leaderboards from last year’s All Star Break to this year’s All Star Break.
Only two Dodgers are on any of those lists.
Clayton Kershaw is a gimme
Who else would make the leaderboard?
No hitters made squat
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Cool stuf
thanks for the link
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Hey Clayton, if the Dodgers played the AL All Stars 10 times, how many would you win?
Clayton Kershaw(notes), Los Angeles Dodgers: "It’s all about pitching. If our starters have a good game, we’re going to be in every game. Baseball’s great like that. We might go 5-5 and split the series, but it’s all about the next day’s starter and how they pitch. For an All-Star team, there would be less hit-and-run, bumping guys over, but they’re also going to have the pure talent. Sometimes that’s just going to win out. I’d take the (Dodgers) team we have right now. It’s pretty good.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
If the all-stars play by all-star type rules, and the Dodgers play by real baseball rules, I think 3 or 4.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t think the 1906 Cubs or the 2011 Dodgers would win a single game.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
It’s baseball, I think they could take one or two. Jose Lima shut down the Cardinals once.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The ’98 Devil Rays beat the ’98 Yankees once. (Shut ’em out, 7-0.)
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Weaver for 2, maybe Verlander for 2, then five different guys for 1. Nobody can find a rhythm.
Clayton could shut down an all-star lineup for 7 or 8. Bills probably gives you a quality outing too and you get lucky on one other.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Facing that lineup, with that bench, and having potential HoF starting pitchers in the bullpen, I don’t think anyone shuts down an all star lineup for an entire game.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
The last five All-Star Games have seen 32 total runs scored.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Richard Feynman says, “Fox. No, wait, shit, I gotta go back and fix that.”
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 12, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
ABC Family
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
ABC apparently.
Is that Ken Reitz starting an all-star game?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes sir
and kind of weird they had them lineup with the #8 hitter at home rather than #1 (or manager)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
There was a strong Disney presence at the game. Is that Snow White next to Mickey?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 12, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Harold Reynolds talking to Matt Kemp and Andrew McCutchen before the All Star Game, they asked him who the fastest player in the Major Leagues is.
Kemp said Emilio Benifacio and McCutchen.
He also said, “He got sent back down to the minor leagues but Dee Gordon. He can run, man. Boy can run, man.”
McCutchen threw in Michael Bourn.
Kershaw says he'll be in in the middle innings, 4th or 5th
And Al Leiter is trying to teach Kershaw how to throw the cutter.
Kershaw says he’s picking the brains of lefties like Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels.
They said that Al Leiter is going to break down Kershaw’s pitching right now.
Leiter said he’d throw the 5th. halladay 1-2, Lee 3-4, kershaw 5.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
awesome news – I will be watching the AS game through 5 it seems
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They asked Ethier how he is able to separate the McCourt mess from teh game on the field.
Ethier: “It’s baseball.” Said Donnie wouldn’t let them have any excuses.
Said there are distractions obviously. “Nothing has changed, the baseballs are still out in the field for BP, We still have our bats as everyone sees, and our gloves, everything’s in our locker, we can still go out and play our game and do our thing.”
Said that Donnie is someone who really changed his career when he came over with Torre.
Also said this is only his second time he’s ever been on live TV.
postgame on-field interviews and every single dodger game doesn’t count.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
and those commercial promotions
and that ESPN commerical
that dude says weird mess
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
they really really don't count
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Also said this is only his second time he’s ever been on live TV.
Huh? What about all the Dodgers Live interviews 30 seconds after he hit a walk-off to end a game?
It’s well established that Andre Ethier ain’t the sharpest tack in the drawer.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
honestly I can see what he meant
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Haven’t his recent comments been we’re not distracted go out 110% athlete cliches.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Poll question for the older (age) posters here
Over your years of fandom, who was the most disappointing loss when a homegrown player left the Dodgers either through trade or free agency?
"Fast just got Faster"
it depends on how old you are
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Retrospectively? Pedro. Piazza got us Sheffield, how upset can you be?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
That’s why I said retrospectively. In hindsight, we traded one hall of famer for a less likeable but equally skilled Hall of Famer, whereas with Pedro we missed the chance to watch the best right handed pitcher in half a century grow before us.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
yeah, but the dodgers could have won
like 6-7 WS with him instead of 3 during that time frame. Pedro was not bringing three WS with the rest of that cast.
Pedro on the 95-96 teams would mean less playoff games started by Ismeal Valdez.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I figure Clemente would have had major impact on 61 62 66 Dodgers, and maybe some on 70-72 as he was older.
I don’t know that he is truly “the latin jackie robinson” as some have called him
but it would have been cool to be the franchise of Jackie, the latin Jackie, Freddy, and Nomo
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I have said this before, but I was excited, at the time, to get DeSheilds.
I loved his game in Montreal
I did not love it here
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't around for much of Piazza
but I was devastated when LoDuca was traded.
by eitherethier on Jul 12, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pleased with the LoDuca trade, I thought Bad Penny was a steal
then he got hurt
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I was suspicious of Beltre’s career contract year
but I did want him to be a Dodger for life
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
most recent - martin
Martin leaving was crappy for me because I thought he was a leader and had a great work ethic. Turns out he was terrible, distracted, and was willing to play for the goddamn yankees.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Yankees want to give me $5mil I’ll streak up and down the Yankee Stadium aisles singing Yankee Doodle.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
amen, what is this “willing to play for the Yankees stuff”
for players, baseball is one business, one giant company
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Vlad
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
not sure the profit in this
Piazza broke my heart
I was pretty disappointed in Garvey leaving too, then Lopes – funny I was ok by the time Cey left
not a home grown player, but my first favorite dodger was Jimmy Wynn, but I came to love Baker
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Losing Piazza made me well prepared for a life time of the Dodgers making no attempt to retain players I actually like. So really, it was for the best.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Dewitt and McDonald
They may not have been great, but they had really grown on me, so it was sad to see them go
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I had no DeWitt love
Jimmy Mac I did like, but he disappointed me
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Piazza and Steve Sax
Best player and favorite player
Baseballwise, Piazza. Personally, departures like Garvey, Karros and Green were more sad, even though they weren’t nearly as productive at the times they left. I also thought Chan Ho and Beltre leaving for bigger bucks felt like a slap in the face to the team.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Pedro
although at the time I did not know it. Would have loved him to be here his whole career though. Piazza hurt but the idea of Sheff eased that pain.
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 12, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Lifetime maybe, I may die before we have a better homegrown hitter especially with positional value thrown in
Mike was it, historically great with the soulful romantic tale of the Tommy Lasorda 62nd round pick
we blew it, won’t get that combo again
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Dreson Ethier is going to be the lovable headcase who crushes lefties.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I try really hard to keep perspective on baseball players as it relates to my life…like I care about them and they don’t know I am even alive, so maybe I shouldn’t really care about them all that much
that being said, it is possible for me to almost cry thinking about Piazza in the Hall as a Met
that breaks my heart, I feel like Chase Carey stole him from me when I was really ready to appreciate a great player
ok, gotta move on now, getting pretty, maudlin around here
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Seeing Piazza catching celebrity softball in a Mets hat was strange to me. I know he’s a Met and I know he’ll go into the hall as a Met, but it was the first time seeing him in another uniform was jarring.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I saw him playing in Shea at least 6 or 7 times
each time was like seeing your girl with another man – loved her still and was sick about it
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 12, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It always needs to be said
Fuck Chase Carey. Fuck Chase Carey in the heart.
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