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Gibson Black Magic : Dodger / Diamondback Preview

Who says managers don't make a difference. Gibby laughs at them.  (Photo by Norm Hall/Getty Images)

Big changes since I last did a Diamondback preview on May 13th as the Diamondbacks were 15 - 21 and looked headed for our season. Instead they used that weekend to springboard into contention. Their record now is 49 - 43 as they battle the Giants for the right to represent the NL West in the postseason. How has this team managed to turn around their season to the turn of a 34 - 22 record since May 13th?

For one thing they have Kirk Gibson as their manager a man who is only about winning, he seems to have taken the same force he used in Detroit,  and Los Angeles to forge a winning team out of a group of players that didn't seem to have it in them.

Outlook:  The offense has no black holes. Everyone contributes, some more then others but you cannot find an easy out in the lineup. Everyone has an OPS+ over 95, six over 100, and one sitting at 99. The top of the rotation is getting it done (Hudson / Kennedy).  Saunders has not been as bad.  Josh Collmenter had some Elymania action going in May, hit some trouble in June, but had a great last start before the break. To compete it would appear this team needs another solid pitcher as their best prospects are simply not ready.

Disabled List:  JJ Putz and Juan Gutierrez

Positions:

1st Base: The Juan Miranda story has ended for the Diamondbacks. They have brought up Brandon Allen who will give the major leagues a third try as he tries to prove he's not simply a Juan Miranda clone. Allen has power and contact issues. He was tearing up AAA and here is Baseball HQ's scouting report on him.

The 25-year-old Allen has long had similar contact issues while showing solid patience and good power--all of which are on display in his 70% ct%, 17% bb% and 18 HR over 304 AB in AAA Reno. Allen's numbers in two prior MLB stints are also eerily similar to Miranda's, most notably a .221/.319/.389 line with five HR in 149 AB. Still, he'll likely see the large portion of the ARI 1B ABs over the near-term -- sharing time with right-handed-hitting Xavier Nady -- while perhaps also seeing some PT in LF. 

I expect Allen is just holding the bag until Paul Goldschmidt is ready to take the reigns.

2nd Base: Kelly Johnson was having a forgetful year until May 20th. On May 20th Kelly had a .565 OPS, it now sits at .740 thanks to a tremendous run in which he has had 26 extra base hits in only 189 plate appearances. His OPS from May20th to the break was .922. So when you see his current TSL of .218/.300/.440 don't be fooled, Kelly is dealing.

Shortstop: Steven Drew is going in the opposite direction of Kelly Johnson. His OPS per month .973 / .673 / .698 / .477.

3rd Base:  Ryan Roberts is no longer the talk of the town but he played well enough, long enough that Melvin Mora was sent packing to find another team to help him feed his quintuplets. Roberts is now sharing time with one time wonderkid Sean Burroughs who was one of the first ballyhooed 3rd base prospect to face plant in the major leagues this decade.

Catcher: Miguel Montero continues to be a solid offensive catcher, ranking near the top in all NL offensive categories for catchers.

Right Fielder: Justin Upton exploded in June and is finally looking like the player we all thought he was going to be. His overall TSL of .304 / .370 / .518 is getting it done.  

Center Fielder: Chris Young is having the best year of his career. He has dropped his K rate from a high of 26% in 2009 to 18% in 2011 and the extra contact is paying off for him. Check out this on base progression this year by month. .272 / .323 / 375 / 405 while hitting sixteen home runs. Patience has paid off for the Diamondbacks as they now have the center fielder they thought they had back in 2007. 

Left Fielder: Gerardo Parra is holding his own in LF offensively, and defensively according to fangraphs, he's the best LF in the NL with a rating of 9.5.  His OPS is only .771 but among the sad group of left fielders in the NL that is not bad. . 

Bench:  Willie Bloomquist is the super utility man who can play everywhere, Henry Blanco is the back up catcher..

Starting Pitching:

Xeifrank Dodger Simulation Matchup
Game# Matchup Fave Win% Total Runs
1 Saunders versus Clayton Kershaw LA 54.65 8.2
2 Ian Kennedy  versus Hiroki Kuroda LA
3 Daniel Hudson versus Ted Lilly LA

Clayton Kershaw won the last matchup with Saunders but it was due more to the quality pitching of Clayton then the offense we generated against Saunders. Saunders is like the sacrificial lamb Gibson is throwing at us while letting his best two pitchers work toward victories against Kuroda and Lilly on Saturday and Sunday. That said knowing how this team struggles against LHP, we have to hope Juan Rivera can provide some pop so that we give something for Clayton to work with.

Hudson and Kennedy have scaled back a bit on their awesomeness since we last saw them but they are still a formidable duo.  We missed Hudson during the last series but saw more then we wanted from Kennedy as he dominated the Dodgers for six innings in his last start against them.

Bullpen:

Setup: Ghame Over is back and he's doing good work. Yhencey Brazoban has pitched the most out of the bullpen in July, putting up a 12 K/9 rate. Others in the bullpen are Micah Owings,  Sam Dremel, with lefties Joe Paterson and Alberto Castillo filling out the bullpen.  Aaron Heilman is also available for your consideration.

Closer: David Hernandez took over for the injured JJ Putz and as is often the case, the ex -starter is doing a bang up job as the Diamondback closer. He's been wildly effective so expect some Marmol type innings if they have to call on him. 

Matchup Notes:  The Dodgers scored only five runs in the last three game series they played at Chase with Saunders giving up four of them in his loss to Kershaw . That means that Kennedy and Collmeter pretty much shut down the team after that.  Can't say I'm a fan of Donnie boy letting Lilly pitch on Sunday instead of Monday but that is how he has made out the rotation to start the  second half.

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A converted started succeeding as a closer? Who knew :)

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Worst case he’ll be the best in the entire NL for the next three years.

by Michael White on Jul 15, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only until we convert Eovaldi into a closer

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

These guys really do suck, right? right??

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s what I thought.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why though, nice players at every position but 1st base. Above average at 2nd, Catcher, RF.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, now we know that. But at the beginnign of the season?

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by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

3rd – Ryan Roberts huge huge surprise
CF – didn’t expect Chris Young to become good
LF – didn’t expect Parra to be solid
SP – No one saw Collmenter coming
RP – David Hernandez big surprise

But they had Johnson, Drew, Upton, and Montero as a base.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is better then our base.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

1B was/is a hole. Expected nothing from 3B. Wasn’t sold on SP. Didn’t expect the CYoung improvement. Expected big drop off from KJohnson. Didn’t see Kevin Towers as the GM making improvements happen. Underweighted the eye black factor I guess.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Young

is basically becoming Mike Cameron.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love evolving players.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like Matt Kemp?

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of all

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So MLB is becoming Pokemon. When can we sign Pikachu to play 3B?

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That rat is shockingly bad an defence

by Grimjack on Jul 15, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

His Special is sky high though!

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he's very tiny

think of all the walks! Our dream of .000/.500/.000 may have arrived!

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

but if he ever makes contact he’ll put a charge into it.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s definitely got thunderous power.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

After the seventh inning stretch he’ll go into the right field pavilion and start the Thunder Wave

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thunder sticks

will have an all new meaning

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be all for the Yankees handing out rebar thunder sticks in the playoffs.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have some people that have been surprisingly good. If we had gotten surprisingly good seasons from people like Vector and Sands, maybe we’d be in it too.

by OB12 on Jul 15, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

They also have not had any sinkholes like we have had at catcher/SS/3rd/lf or whereever Uribe is playing. They don’t have holes, that is a big deal.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWHS

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Chris Young better last year then this year?

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better this year. Although this year 12 SB and 6 CS, last year 28/7.

by LA Taco on Jul 15, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

25 opsses better

I mean it shouldn’t be that big a surprise, but AZ was so bad last year I’m guessing no one noticed he didn’t suck.

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody noticed

He made the All-Star team in 2010.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

o snap

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

token diamondback?

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was their one AS, yes.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he was the lucky ‘threw a dart at the dbacks roster’ contest winner.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll confess

I’m having a really difficult time wrapping my head around the fact that offenses have taken such a massive nosedive. A .717 OPS qualifies as barely below average? That just blows me away.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

steroids be gone

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pitchers used them too

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying they didn't help pitchers

but wouldn’t they help hitters more?

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would say biggest benefit to pitchers was helping them with injuries and turn around time. But I am not a professional doper. I doubt it helped them with their command, movement on pitches, not sure on velocity. Good question.

by Xeifrank on Jul 15, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much what I was thinking

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I would think the ability to hit a baseball X feet further would be greater than that.

by Xeifrank on Jul 15, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

increases velocity a bunch, and a bit more velocity outside of strength just from not being sore etc.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that has shown up in any pitch f/x studies? Or was that not around back then?

by Xeifrank on Jul 15, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

No clue. Just providing my experiences. Mechanics and flexibility training has a lot to do with throwing harder, but being stronger helps a lot too with things like durability and explosiveness.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

del taco

also helps with the explosiveness

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also true.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah but velocity doesn't matter if its straight and down the middle

remember?

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t say it didn’t matter at all. I said it matters less if you throw it down the middle and the hitter knows it’s coming.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I think it helped mostly with the daily grind

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 15, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, have to say with out these normalized metrics I’d be saying some stupid things about how player so and so sucks.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice preview as always

Sorry I didn’t run the other two games for you. Slipped my mind that you’d be having a series preview. Those the Vegas numbers you have up by the way. Simulator gives the Dodgers a 57% chance of winning and a slightly higher scoring game. I’m not too confident in that higher scoring game of course. :)

by Xeifrank on Jul 15, 2011 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Two Blue Jays minor leaguers got suspended for 50 games yesterday

for banned substances. Their names are awesome:

Aderly De La Cruz
Luillyn Guillen

I would pay money to hear Tom Brokaw say the second name.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

d-Backs

dont scare me one bit. Thinking that the Dodgers have a chance (which im being tricked into thinking/feeling) does scare me.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jul 15, 2011 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

ghame over???

I did a double take. I cant believe he’s back and doing well..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I probably should have used his photo instead of Gibby but when I saw one with Gibby smiling I had to roll with it.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

did he finally learn to throw more than one pitch?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know, just being healthy is a big step for him

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Duaner Sanchez sobs in despair

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

A goggled Dodger I remember fondly.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

for throwing his glove at batted balls?

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see that

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember the play in question. Automatic triple though IIRC, right?

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the rule

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

my memory says it was in AZ too

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

my memory

says that AZ used to wear purple, and now they just wear Astros uniforms.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jul 15, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember Lasorda at some point in the 1990s correctly arguing and getting the call when a catcher used his mask to retrieve a ball. Runners get two bases in that case. I don’t remember the details though.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a walk-off!
The walkoff rule violation
On Aug. 12, 1995, the Pirates and Dodgers played a wild game in Los Angeles that featured one of the most bizarre endings in major-league history. The winning run crossed the plate when, with a runner on third base, a pitch got away from Pirates catcher Angelo Encarnacion, who broke a little-known rule by illegally scooping the ball out of the dirt with his mask. The violation resulted in the runner on third being awarded home plate, and the Dodgers had an odd 11-10 win.

Link

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by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

The baseball equivalent of the double dip.

by kinbote on Jul 15, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

is that catcher's name

Spanish for an “angel incarnated” (tho Angelo is Italian)? No wonder he thought he was above the law.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Google tells me it means “incarnate.”

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is what you wrote.

I first read your post as “incarcerated.” Which is something else entirely.

Never mind. Nothing to see here. Go back to your homes, people.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

or your tunnels

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

wordreference.com

is the bomb for word translations across various languages.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every time I hear the name Duaner Sanchez, I think of Jae Seo, and every time I think of Jae Seo, I remember that he was denied the rare three-inning save on the whim of the official scorer, and every time I think about that, I get angry.

I spend a lot of my time being angry.

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by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

or drunk, so are you saying you are an angry drunk?

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is what I’m saying.

(Throws glass)

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by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

you can sign Seo

when you get to become GM of the LAD. Think of the rhyming possibilities.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think of the getting drunk possibilities as he blows lead after lead.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I am GM, the Dodgers will lead in away games in which Fielder and Kemp drive in runs in the first inning.

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by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

We discussed this above

offense sucks now. Eric Gagne should totally be looking to come back now.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not going to hit any better than the rest of these clowns.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Young

anyone remember a hitter who has was able to drop his K rate from the mid 20’s to the high teens like this while still maintaining his power after several thousand major league at bats?

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

This preview I learned alot about Young. In the last preview on May 13th he had an OB% below .280 and was still striking out at a high rate. More then anyone, he has turned around his season.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Franceour

and look what happend to him…

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

McGwire struck out a bunch as a rookie then a little less over most of his career. Don’t know the percentages though.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I forgot to note

last night in the notes post was that while Loney, Uribe, and Blake were tied for fourth place on the Dodgers with four home runs, they had one less than Wily Mo Pena, who had five in 46 PA yet was designated for assignment because of the awesome .196/.196/.522 line.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

a .700 ops looks pretty good about now

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Memories of Dave Kingman…

by latenite on Jul 15, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely all or nothing, and usually nothing!

by latenite on Jul 15, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck shit ass fuck asshole shitfuck.

You can fill in the rest.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Usually doesn’t go to a manager of an 83-79 team. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

It does usually go to the mamager

who makes a seemingly crappy team look good though.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Jul 15, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’d get my vote.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clint Hurdle?

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Fisher tweets
Source: Frank going after Jamie’s $600,000+/mo support obligation. “Unsustainable” given current financial situation.

He later tweeted that Frank is only making about $5M a year from parking which is more than the support amount.

by bhsportsguy on Jul 15, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

You mean LESS than the support amount.

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by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

600k is a lot of k

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

as a follow up (get out your violins!)
DodgerDivorce Josh Fisher
Frank paraphrased: Over the last 12 months, I have paid nearly $8MM to Jamie and on mortgages. I have spent only $600,000 on myself.

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by underdog on Jul 15, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure we divert a lot of money

But we spend a lot of money too

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 15, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

jcrasnick
The #Royals are seeking "near ready’’ starting pitching in exchange for OFs Melky Cabrera and Jeff Francoeur.

John Ely? :)

by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

How about we simply give them someone really ready like Kuroda for Alex Gordon:)

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ignore this

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you remember our preseason poll that I wrote?

4th Place – ahead of Arizona only?
Uh, yeah, I may have been a little off on that.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Cellar – How is Colletti’s job security might be the winner.

by Tripon on Jul 15, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

From last thread

at LAGC, all threads from today and yesterday are considered fair game, since commenting is light enough you can find a thread easily.

I couldn’t imagine the chaos that would cause here

by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Billingsley gettting a long rest over the AS break.

That may be a good thing.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder what it would look like

if the meercat wrote a preview of the Dodgers from the perspective of the other team. You know, if meercat was a DBacks fan writing a series preview of the Dodger for AZ Snakepit.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

was thinking of doing that but I’d make so many enemies here I thought I’d hold back.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the season keeps being a shithole, it might be cathartic for all.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should have done it at the break but who wants to shit on optimism.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

8/1

The Padres series preview after the trade deadline, when we are still 10+ games back and traded for a veteran middle reliever.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did not expect negative David after a nice vacation. WE CAN DO THIS

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

What 3.5 days of work (in crunch mode) can do to you.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

BillShaikin
Frank McCourt asks divorce court to cut his support to Jamie: “I simply cannot afford to support (her) lifestyle any longer.” #dodgers
BillShaikin
Frank: If the homes are hers, Jamie should pay for them. If the homes are community property, I want them sold immediately.

by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Using Frank's logic
If the Dodgers are community property, I want them sold immediately.

Get it done.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be interested in how much they can get for the homes. No way they’ll get what they sold for.

by Tripon on Jul 15, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for this group

to start bidding on the Holmby Hills home that is next door to the one they actually lived in and is primarily used to store stuff.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

You watch that show, too?

It’s pretty good.

That dude in black always goes, “YEP!”

by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not habitually

But I don’t change the channel when I find happen across it. It is surprisingly entertaining.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could that for a living.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch TV?

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

there was a GREAT

npr piece on this before the show came out, might hav ebeen on This American Life. I love tv shows that involve an unopened box that eventually gets opened haha. I would almost prefer the show if they had a few storage lockers every episode that they buy and then catalog everything they found (even the junk). of course, i may be the only person interested in that haha

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This American Life

Hipster.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

once i mentioned “NPR” there was no turning back from being labeled, might as well go the whole way

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Storage Wars is kind of a mystery twist on Antiques Roadshow, with the element of “I could be that guy”, where it is unlikely you have a pricey heirloom in the attic.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love junk appraisal shows. american pickers, pawn stars, storage wars. antiques roadshow is def too hoity toity.

did anyone watch Personal FX way back in the infant days of FX? People would bring in stuff they thought was valuable and then try to sell or auction it LIVE at the end of the show. my parents were obsessed with it

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

People really do make a living of buying storage containers and selling off the stuff. I could tell you my own story someday but for litigation purposes I can only do it verbally.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

did it involve a troupe of dwarf acrobats?

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 15, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watch it

and enjoy it but it feels so set-up. like pawn stars

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I like about pawn stars is when this scenario happens:

“I’d really like to get $2,500 for this [random piece of shit].”

“The most I can give you is $200.”

“OK!”

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahah yes

and laughing at them when the seller asks for the top retail price.

YOU ARE GOING TO A PAWN SHOP TO TRY TO SELL SOMETHING VALUABLE.

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Well he said its worth 5k, so I should totally get at least that.”

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

my boss was in it a few weeks ago selling a phony auto of Hemingway. He says it was a setup, none of us believe it. he was hurt they called his stuff a fake.

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that episode

those guys are great, “That expert is bunk man! My shit is real, its totally worth a fortune!”

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't really like the main guy from that store

So I basically watch the show hoping he makes a really stupid buy.

by Michael White on Jul 15, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like

american pickers the most out of hte bunch

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

American Pickers is pretty awesome yea. Especially when Danielle is on it.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Junkyard Wars was the best

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the games last week had the dude on the left throw out the first pitch, and there were like 4-5 advertisements and/or in-game tie-ins to Storage Wars that night.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

He reminds me of Joe Maddon

by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

im not surprised he was the one throwing the first pitch, thou on the show he feels like a plant by the producers

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

i have no idea

why i like this show as much as i do hahah

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who are doing the bidding of their clients.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

and/or inciting and advising their clients in a course of action that enriches the laywer

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 15, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m always curious at what point Frank looked at Jamie and said WTF have you turned into. My own guess is when he found out the work she had done in case she wanted to become president:)

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

either that or the time he came home early and bumped into the naked dude in their room

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 15, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if it is true the Jamie has changed and that Frank is what he always has been.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least before we wouldn’t be talking about $135mil going to his ex-wife instead of the team. Before it would have been $135mil for them to share.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question is

if shes changed for the better or worse? If shes changed and become Georgia Frontiere or Marge Schott…

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Save us!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jul 15, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steiner: “One hopper to short… oh, and it hits a landmine left by Jamie’s dog!”

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That needs a lot more than one ellipsis.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Olney, Phillies are trying to add a Padre reliever (Bell or Adams). It’s like they want to be unstoppable or something.

by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

how does their farm look like

after trading for everyone whose been good in the last 3-4 years

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do the Phillies have the prospects (and willingness to unload those prospects) to make this sort of deal? I would think they’d be better off getting a lesser relief pitcher.

by VegasBlues on Jul 15, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

and the Padres would be better off trading with someone else...

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by underdog on Jul 15, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

i hope the padres ass fuck them with a street pole in the process

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

a little too graphic for my tastes but your idea is on the right track. F CARLOS RUIZ

by raj m on Jul 15, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

nolander:

there is a food truck fest at Fullerton High School tonight 5-10pm.
Grill Em All, Nom Nom Truck, Lime Truck, Cajun Truck, and Seabirds.

I usually avoid truck fests (huge lines/crowds) but i know you wanted to try Lime Truck, plus nom nom and grill em all are both great.

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously unless I'm going to a game or disneyland or Frys

north of Fairview is a wasteland.

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that the munchathon?

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Truckageddon

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

no idea

just saw grill em all tweet about it, thought you may be interested

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would take a herculean effort through traffic to get there

but thanks! If I dind’t have a dodger game to watch I would consider it.

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont really know my OC geography that well
thou at 830pm there shouldnt be TOO much traffic maybe. and the dodgers will be down 7-1

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s Kershaw v Saunders. We’re winning 6-2.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

“we” as in the dodgers, right?

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

oops, messed that joke up

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

the traffic never goes away on the 5

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The lime truck actually now comes just down the street from my office 2 times a week

gonna hit them up wednsday, and I have a dodger game to watch tonight!

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nom Nom has the girl that Eric thinks is not unpretty.

by kinbote on Jul 15, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would nom her nom. This is true.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must be thinking of her partner.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are both foul. i heard there is a video of them two double end dildoing with a baguette

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m throwing this one in the Shawn Green pile as “things Delias Man is wrong about”

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

as long as Nnamdi is not on that pile its ok

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course though, Nnamdi does not get involved in piles anymore.

by delias man on Jul 15, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

man, i was just typing that out. nicely done

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nicely done. I’m more with you than against you on Awesome, wa? Good corner, Raiders stupidly overpaid him.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

is this the ‘i dislike shawn green’ pile or the ‘Mondesi is better than Shawn Green’ pile?

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was actually a spring roll.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just makes me dizzy

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by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish this joke chart was a joke chart

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 15, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love joke flow charts

Like how to survive zombie attack!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Mfnhv-ZiGHE/TX_oDxX-YaI/AAAAAAAACFM/8ufiDBbl_1c/s1600/zombie-survival-flow-chart.jpg

Which may have more in common with McCourt situation than we realize.

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by underdog on Jul 15, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

FJM Blue LLC

looks like McCourt bought out Fire Joe Morgan!

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Roger Stirling isn’t shown – must be an oversight.

by latenite on Jul 15, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah hah

what a dick… here.

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by underdog on Jul 15, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, I totally did not realize that.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

question

what color is the button on the top?
that really makes or breaks this for me

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, LAGC is awesome.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I want her to respond to my posts :)

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

…so you’re kissing up. I’m not seeing how one precludes the other :D

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You win this time, Gadget.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, that was my nickname in middle school. Had some serious range from SS before my eyes started going bad. GD Game Boy.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid way to get more money from stupid people. Boise State fans (and students) hate how much of a deal is made about the turf. The turf isn’t hard to look at in person as most seem to think it does and it doesn’t give any sort of home field advantage.

A lot of us fans would actually prefer the turf was taken out (because controversy over it is annoying) but they know they can make a lot of money because of it.

by VegasBlues on Jul 15, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boise State is that douchebag who wears some stupid ass hat to the bar in place of having an actual personality.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He may not have a personality, but the herp is flowing freely.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

x

When you reach a certain age that suddenly becomes awesome.

I was talking more like this guy

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

still a tool

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like John Phillips.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jul 15, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Son of Jason? Bride of Chuckie?

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back in the day. Mamas & Papas leader

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jul 15, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Famous misheard lyrics

“Look around. Lisa Brown. And the sky is a hazy shade of winter.”

by kinbote on Jul 15, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mackenzie Phillips is not amused.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hulkamania

still running wild, just a bit slower…

by WGiles24 on Jul 15, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its just walker-aided now.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blah blah blah

I could come up with some stupid saying just like this when it comes to LA and Dodger fans.

I like LA and am a Dodger fan so of course I wont. I’m just pointing out how stupid your comment is.

I’ll pass on getting involved in defending BSU though. Trying to defend them got old long ago. I’ll just keep enjoying watching them play and win.

by VegasBlues on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha you’re defending the blue turf.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's disturbing

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the eyes. Like the rocking horse in the basement at your scary uncle’s house.

by kinbote on Jul 15, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

that horse is so huge, the footballs in his hand look tiny

by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

turf sample that leaves droppings

this is not helping Boise St.’s case for BCS respect

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boise St. Blue Turds

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

the bottom of the image has little brown circles and clumps everywhere.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. I just figured that was dirt. Gotcha.

by VegasBlues on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably is

but assuming its shit is vastly funnier.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

They play on turf, why would it be dirt? I know being clumps of turf shit is less likely, but it makes the same amount of sense :)

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Frank really hates Don't Stop Believin too

per Shaikin:

In court filing, MLB says #Dodgers halted severance payments to former VP Charles Steinberg upon BK filing. Steinberg works for Selig now.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

The money saved could eventually be diverted back to Frank, after all…

by latenite on Jul 15, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

for his sexy parties

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who can summarize the

“stuff I absolutely should not have missed in the comments from 7/1 – 7/12”?

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

TBLA has become dodgers.com?

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What can we say, we missed you.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

there was one main driving force...

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

a life force, if you will.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

driving farce*

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you overlook the word

“not”?

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

‘Annoying thread’-to go along with the Original ‘hate thread’

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by iiidown on Jul 15, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was the annoying thread?

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing we do every thread, Pinky.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chase food trucks and denigrate MintXcore?

by Grimjack on Jul 15, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I tried introducing Spawn to the idea of Pinky and the Brain. “There’s these two mice, see, and they want to take over the world…”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, Darkwing Duck, duck tails, tail spin

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is time for that. Spawn right now is into Blue’s Clues, Dinosaur Train, and, God help me, Super Why, which is like crack for toddlers and just as damaging to neural functions.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bobby’s World?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rugrats

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steer the offspring toward Phineas and Ferb. That show is brilliant.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was it similarly themed, like Annoying in an Elevator or Muskrat Annoying?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

the US scored a bunch of goals

in the Women’s World Cup, but there’s a thread for that too. Have you heard about this car thing?

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

you were invited to an All Star Game viewing party. Your presence was sorely missed

by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He will have to make up for it by ensuring that his next appearance features his presence being sorely felt.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s normal for me.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

E.g., my attempt to hit the (many) high notes in “Come On Eileen”.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was good. Tough song.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still waiting on Regulate.

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

See what you missed by not being at the first Gabe’s TBLA event.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric said he was silly to sing Regulate by himself, so I offered to be warren G to his Nate Dogg*

*RIP Nate Dogg

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by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not as tough as reg absolutely nailing “End of the World As We Know It”.

LEONARD BERNSTEIN!

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the "It's Nice To Want Things" pile
At some point," Francoeur said, "we’ll talk to Dayton about the option. Maybe get a two or three-year deal or something. I’ve told Dayton that I like it here. I’d love to stay here."

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

“We’ll talk about a two or three-year deal when you give us more than two or three weeks of production.”

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He who signs Jeff Francouer would probably sign Jeff Francouer to a multi year deal.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jul 15, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you where banned

/joking

Congrats!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats man. Sharing the birth of your kid is a little different than talking about OC traffic :)

Missed you at the game last week, I ended up playing for the Bears against your team. I guess this explains it :)

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, last week I was in AZ for Fanfest/Legends game/HR Derby. Good thing wife wasn’t a few days earlier.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, that’s right. I knew that. Your team won, in case no one told you. Losing the whole game then gave up like 6 in the top of the last inning.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are the comeback kids!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only in games in which I play against you, apparently.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

congrats

as a fellow Cancer, I welcome him to the fold.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome! Congrats!

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats to you, mother and child!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 15, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations

At least something good comes of the 2011 season.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t your oldest 4 now? 2007 and 2011? So when the Dodgers suck, we know what Nolij does to stay entertained…

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

you say this like it is a bad way to spend time.

by Grimjack on Jul 15, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would never make such a claim.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I see the writing on the wall, I make alternate plans.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was married 3 months before the Dodgers won the 1988 World Series. Since then we have birthed and raised a daughter through college to allowed-to-drink adulthood (full adulthood is age 25 when you can rent a car – is that still the rule?), my wife got her R.N., I went from newbie to grizzled vet in the workplace, we’ve gone though the mortgage/refi process god-only-knows how many times, etc., etc., yet the Dodgers haven’t gotten back to the WS.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We Got This

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can rent a car under 25...

…at least I did last year in Oahu, but it costs $25 more per day.

by jrock247 on Jul 15, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, can rent at 21, but can’t rent all of the cars. you get the cheap cars that aren’t a billion dollars to insure.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you are penalized or restricted because you are under 25, then you aren’t a full adult until you are 25.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm 37

and far from a full adult

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can tell by your avatar.

We are also both male, which keeps us from being full adults as well.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

so by that logic..

your not a full adult until you start getting senior citizen discounts and are no longer paying the same price as everyone else.

by jrock247 on Jul 15, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can go with that.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

U.S. trustee asks bankruptcy court to deny Dodgers their proposed loan
U.S. trustee: Dodgers haven’t “fully disclosed” loan terms, cites efforts “to keep confidential..undisclosed fee and McCourt’s obligations”

Shaikin tweets

by berkowit28 on Jul 15, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

US trustee?

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by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was my question also

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Trustee_Program

The United States Trustee Program is an agency of the United States Department of Justice that is responsible for overseeing the administration of bankruptcy cases and private trustees. The applicable federal law is found at 28 U.S.C. § 586 and 11 U.S.C. § 101, et seq.

In addition to the twenty-one United States Trustees, the program is administered by the Executive Office for U.S. Trustees (EOUST), located in Washington, D.C., and 95 field offices. The United States Trustee is the federal official charged with enforcing civil bankruptcy laws in the United States.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would appear to be big news.

1. US Trustee says Ummmm no
2. MLB says Seize you, wouldn’t wanna be you?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What I’m waiting on Craig for, is to see if the bankruptcy judge can or usually/ever says “Hey, US Trustee, pipe down”.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would be good to know. we’ll wait for craig.

totally uninformed point of view: aren’t the bankruptcy courts supposed to protect the creditors? if so, wouldn’t that imply, at the least, strong consideration to the us trustee’s opinion?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I figure, but I know judges like telling government agencies to GFY. At least this agency is in the same branch of government.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

weird, I thought you meant you were waiting for me for a second, was like, I know bupkis about law.

And then, oh right, BH. In Emily Litella voice, Never mind.

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by underdog on Jul 15, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I skipped yours. “Among other things, administers committee that represents creditors.” (Shaikin)

by berkowit28 on Jul 15, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

may i ask

what is “US Trustee”?

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Among other things, administers committee that represents creditors. (Re Shaikin)

by berkowit28 on Jul 15, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone have the case number?

I have a pacer account I can look this stuff up with..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jenny's still busy.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jul 15, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stacey’s mom is hotter anyway.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

11-12010 seriously.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the one.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

they have about 8 companies that filed at the same time and got consolidated into one case. Not sure if that has anything to do with it

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

from the trustees brief
The Debtors’ failure to disclose impairs the ability of the Court and others to ascertain the basic economics of the proposed financing, including its effect on the Debtors and their estates. In addition, the business judgment being exercised by Debtors’ management cannot be properly evaluated without full disclosure.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know “smart” fans are supposed to scoff at pitcher W-L records, but I’ll be marking out for sure if Kershaw gets his 10th win tonight.

by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

You don’t scoff at the record, you scoff at people who use the record to say definitively if a pitcher is good or not. Wins are still a nice way to reward pitchers for a job well done and carry emotional weight from one game to the next.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Kershaw won his 10th game tonight”
“Cool”

“Kershaws 10th win establishes him as one of the best pitchers in the NL”
“He’s as good as Kevin Correa. SUCH GREAT HEIGHTS”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

“Why would you want Hiroki Kuroda? He has 10 losses!”

“How the hell does that guy have 6 wins for that offense”

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

marking out?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just like making out, but with an R in the middle.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to ask the same thing.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrestling term.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

[continues to stare blankly]

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically cheering.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

so tempted

to photoshop an emo kid writing “<3 kershaw” on his arm

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’re quality work, to be sure.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

an emo kid writing cutting "<3 kershaw" on his arm

Far more accurate.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrestling term

Urban Dictionary: “To temporarily forget that wrestling is fake because something cool happened.”

by fbihop on Jul 15, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that case, what he said makes perfect sense.

by Michael White on Jul 15, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHIT

Looks like we have to let him off the hook.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I don't have a receipt for the tar!

And what am I supposed to do with all these feathers?

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never doubted him

just had no clue what that meant

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i will, from now on, assume Marty really meant to say “what do you guys think about batting flabbergasted the king in front of Uribe when a left hander is pitching?”

by mintxcore on Jul 15, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your relentless faith in your fellow commenters won’t save you now!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only a select few

are you in my five?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for you if you have any faith in anything I write.

You do know what I do for a living right? I lie for money.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t we all?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tell the truth for money within a system that is a lie.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little known fact: Nolij is the voice of the computer in Portal.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m now reading every nolij post in her voice

by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’ve ever played(?) Portal, but there’s a Jonathan Coulton song that I think uses her voice. She’s called GladOS or something?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell

if you don’t/can’t play, just watch a lets play of it on youtube. Funny as hell games.

by EMDarrow on Jul 15, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

the jonathan coulton song was written for portal

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I demand more fat and adoption jokes then

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tell the truth as I’m told to say it, does that count?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lying for money is more honest then lying for not money

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

mlb objection to mccourts dips financing

I downloaded their brief hoping mlb might be too stupid to properly electronically redact something, but I guess they figured it out =(

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

dips financing

DIPS financing? I thought that all those Voros McCracken stats went out when he fired DePodesta.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voros’s problem was that he couldn’t get enough DIPS financing to sustain himself.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

this brief

says the 30 mlb clubs benefit from participation in mlb by “the scouting of talented new players”

Are there dedicated MLB scouts that dont work for/get paid by a specific club?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

it might refer to the team’s ability to scout other teams by playing against them in the minor leagues.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

brief also sez

mccourt tried to raise 130 million last May but the investors offered him shitty terms because of the ugly divorce proceedings and frank took his ball and went home..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like you have a FanPost in the making.

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by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe K-Rod will be the closer after all? Per Rosenthal:

Sources: K-Rod has agreed to waive $17.5M vesting option in exchange for additional compensation. Will be FA at end of season.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

sucks to axford

but i guess he’s got some saves under his belt to use for arbitration purposes..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

axford can be the closer next year

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting

I think they just wanted to keep him happy since he apparently didn’t want to go there.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

they'll probably rotate

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lineup to get hung with 5th straight L by Dodger opp

Bloomquist LF
Johnson 2B
Upton RF
Young CF
Drew SS
Roberts 3B
Montero C
Nady 1B
Saunders P

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

T/F, Nady would hit 5th for us, and we’d be happy about it.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

F

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have Juan Rivera now

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

True or False questions are supposed to be phrased as almost, but not quite, insupportable positions.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He forgot to say 2008 Nady

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew it.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

1999 Nady was a beast and I had the pleasure of a press box seat for the whole ride.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol no

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every team has a Bloomquist. The speedy guy who looks and acts like a lead off hitter once he gets on base but has trouble getting on base. Managers from yester yor to current day have not been able to resist the temptation of sin by letting them lead off. It is quite remarkable to watch over and over and over.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every team has a Bloomquist.

Dodgers have at least three!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon lead off hitter for life.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the DH league, don’t they sometimes get it right and bat that guy ninth?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hanley Ramirez

got thrown out at 2B in the ninth inning against a struggling Marmol, trying to stretch a double against a no-XBH defense. Would have been 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Morrison singled afterwards, but Marlins lost to the Cubs, 2-1.

Oof.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Trader Jack immediately shoot him to the ground?

I ask this because Jack McKeown is very, very old and even more crotchety than he is old, which is very.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem to equate old with crochety. Fuck off

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know how I know you are old?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I know so much and you know so little?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I got blow jobs on the hills of what became Irvine before your parents were born?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I’ve actually celebrated Dodger World Championships, not once but three fucking times

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why where you invading those poor farmers land?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Farmers Daughters are not myths

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson

not the psycho black beard guy, the psycho ex-BeachBoy guy, knew this

I could come from miles away
Ain’t got no place to stay
Glad to help you plow your fields
Farmer’s daughter

Might be just a couple of days
Clean up rest and on my way
Thank you and I’m much obliged
Farmer’s daughter

So long better leave your land
Many thanks it was mighty grand
I do hope to see you again
Farmer’s daughter

Oh oh Farmer’s daughter

Oh oh Farmer’s daughter

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re killing me

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 15, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you know how funny this is?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shocked the Cubs allowed Marmol to pitch today after yesterdays meltdown.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

They had a lefty come in and get Mike Stanton for the final out. Sadly, that lefty wasn’t Mike Stanton.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fortunately, it was Stan Miketon.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quade being Quade

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winning lineup

Furcal SS
Uribe 3B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Rivera LF
Loney 1B
Navarro C
Carroll 2B
Kershaw P

by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Carrol should bat 2nd

/dead horse

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of these days

I will have a pick the best lineup contest and run it through my simulator (vs LHP, vs RHP). Just have to pick the same 8 players for simplicity sakes and no wierd things like putting Matt Kemp at catcher. :)

by Xeifrank on Jul 15, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

kemp bats 3rd in the all star game but can’t in this lineup?

by raj m on Jul 15, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s complicated :)

by kinbote on Jul 15, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, hello? Guy on waivers? How’d you like to hit fifth?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He might be the 3rd best hitter in that lineup

against lefties. /scary

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against righties, it’d be Kershaw.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

elite

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Jul 15, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is second?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carrol

One day Furcal will be 3rd and Juan Rivera will be 4th

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

hopefully

on their winter ball team

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

you guys shoot so low with your hopefully

for me, its hopefully in the WS

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 15, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

My reaction exactly.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 15, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe 2nd

the horror, the horror

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by Pure Azure on Jul 15, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

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